Climbing with a pre-installed Aerial Rescue Line: Experiment #1

[@dannyd806]

Man, you seem like a great guy to work with. You’re never barking at your ground guy, your communication is spot on. I’ve worked with climbers who just bury you, don’t communicate at all and get pissed off when you make a mistake, or can’t read their mind. Keep up the good work!

[@rickicalvert3156]

Love the commentary and how you explain for all of us to learn. 23 years doing tree work and even longer with logging in the woods with my grandpa from 8yr on. I’m now 40. Never to late to learn something new

[@Bythirteen]

I greatly appreciated this video. The small details of what gear and techniques you implement and why are incredibly helpful to someone entering the craft.

[@PoplarMechanic]

Good video man, i would have a rescue line but you also need someone who can use the rescue line, I've thought of implementing a ground lowering base anchor but my feeling is that if I'm doing something serious I am gonna have my lanyard on anyway. Thanks for sharing stay safe man 👊🇨🇦

[@billycrotty4102]

Iv just brought an ART rope guide twin line which offers this exact system when set up but it can be done from the ground, I'm looking forward to using it.

[@danielbabcock7004]

So 4 months later how do you like that rope guide?

[@billycrotty4102]

@@danielbabcock7004 it's very good, they should include a spliced eye so it can be used like it predecessor but yes it's very good

[@danielbabcock7004]

@@billycrotty4102 thats good to hear! When i was actively looking into getting it i couldnt find many reviews of it

[@kennethsizer6217]

That was fun to watch!

[@mvblitzyo]

really enjoying the innovation. Ive done similar pre-set up system in the past but since most people i currently work with find in unnecessary , i no longer use it BUT i think any tree 75' are taller is a great way to be safe n concinous of dangerous our line of work is well fun is fun we are tree people .. love that your sharing in excellent video ..

[@johannesschafer1168]

Yo Patrick, nice video and insight in your thought process. Working in a much more regulated industry in Germany, we are pretty used to having an additional line in the tree (and a second climber on the ground). But I can see the downside of having to work around it, especially when there is rigging involved. Nevertheless I think one can get used to it. Watching the video, I had the idea of attaching the rescue line to the part of your climbline which is going down to the base anchor (with a prusik chord maybe). That way, you could retrieve both lines at the same time. Obviously it would depend on the amount of friction through redirects etc. Also you would need a detachable climbing device that you take off before retrieving. I haven't tried it myself though, so I'm not sure if it's worth it or just a pain. Cheers!

[@raphaelbeinhauer9242]

What makes it easy for most german climbers is that they often SRT up, and then switch to DdRT, so leaving tge access line for rescue is not much of an effort.

[@Bluecollar711]

I believe six months ago I demonstrated this process for 2 climbing systems one at the bottom and the one at the top the climber is on?! This is and always will be one of the best release systems foreground man and the climber to both have recognized and fully understand it's working capabilities

[@treeculture9249]

Nice video Patrick, thanks. We install an acces line with an alpine butterfly for rescue

[@johncitizen3227]

👍smooth. Learning heaps brother.👊🏻

[@chtclimbing]

by all means this is not the end all be all. However, it is an extremely important conversation that needs to be had. I recently uploaded a video on a type of anchor that also addresses this issue feel free to check it out and drop a comment on it. Stay safe and healthy. Cheers.

[@lukecaron831]

I hate to question this extra step in setting up another line. Because I fully agree with it. But being on single rope, your technically able to be rescued buy a ground person who has no climbing experience. But like I said I fully agree with setting up another line especially in a DRT situation! Thanks!

[@TreeMuggs_PatrickM]

You can rescue someone on a basal tie as long as they have a rope that is long enough to get them down.... the question is *should you lower someone in distress or who is unconscious.... I think that would be a last resort type thing......just my opinion..... - Patrick

[@lightupyourlife111]

@@TreeMuggs_PatrickM doesn’t the blood go toxic if your unconscious in a harness that’s why you have little time to get someone down.

[@FabFunty]

@@lightupyourlife111 it's more the risk of to less blood flow in the limbs

[@zonen1]

It always baffles me when some families just stick around getting their eardrums blasted by the chipper xD

[@petershea3131]

Loved your guitar vid too. Good work out there or as you would say "hell of a job" 👌

[@TreeMuggs_PatrickM]

Thanks brother! - Patrick

[@scotttam7491]

As long as the guy on the ground knows how to tie hitches why don't you set the safety line then just have him set up the climb system once the rope is in place that way he doesn't have to hold the climb system as your pulling the rope up. Just a thought.

[@dwaynemadsen964]

"Made for this!" LOL! I have started pulling enough rope through my tie in point that there is enough to lower me from the ground. I'm using a sling and rescue 8 as the anchor point so if the need arises where I need to be lowered there is a friction device already inline. I haven't needed to use this yet (!) and I'm not sure how it would work after a few redirects, but if I am going straight up and working near the stem I am confident the system would allow for my weight to be lowered safely using the back side (anchor leg) of my stationary rope system.

[@backwoodsengineer]

The new intro music is dope. Great video.

[@TreeMuggs_PatrickM]

Awesome thank you! - Patrick

[@tonik7491]

Is the 12-strand line you're using a hollow braid like a Tenex Tec? Do you like it as a rigging line, compared to a Teufelberger Sirius or equivalent? Wondering how it works when lowering with blocks and breaks and how it feels to knot. Thanks for the great videos!

[@TreeMuggs_PatrickM]

It's actually a 12-strand climbing line, called Yale Buzzz...... I love it for rigging... - Patrick

[@bobsthea]

with second rope that you install, now you can added back-up device on it incase your main line is a bit compromised

[@fefolks8507]

That's sick

[@TheVagaBlond]

In case of pruning i think natural crotch is not the best way..for the rest good job!

[@kevinvanbrunt7498]

Especially on a tree not being removed

[@tbrownleevt]

Is that an ms 200 T? Or a board 201? She rips!

[@TreeMuggs_PatrickM]

that's my old 200T, from 2007... - Patrick

[@derek5463]

It’s something to think about.

[@leonardvirtue5753]

Nice.😆

[@treecred97]

Showing off the new midnight ivy

[@skaterslife6305]

Need to cut those pieces just a little bit smaller if somebody’s gonna get hurt

[@jeffadams492]

Cool vid thanks I liked the natural crotch rigging

[@stoneybologna1982]

I guess " do not recommend" and " not interested" dont mean anything to KZbin. Who cares about cutting damn trees?

[@severini8153]

On behalf of All who do care i am deeply sorry for you to be struck by this tragedy

[@stoneybologna1982]

@@severini8153 your concerns are much appreciated.

[@TreeMuggs_PatrickM]

the trees care....... they're like "aaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh" ......... :) - Patrick

[@brianm7607]

20 years of climbing and I can climb faster than all of you guys with just a rope. Too much crap to go up in the tree with

[@TreeMuggs_PatrickM]

Well I hope it's a manila rope you have....... 🤣 - Patrick

[@brianm7607]

@@TreeMuggs_PatrickM I'm not roping horses my friend.

[@turtlezed]

That may be the case friend but its the bodies falling out of trees creating statistics thats causing the regulations....when guys stop being badly hurt or dying that'll be the end of added regulations ........and what you're using at the time will be their compliant goto method.