Catcher Throws Ball Into Batter During Texas Softball Game - Was it Intentional? Ejectable? Analysis

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A Texas softball catcher threw a ball at an opposing batter's head, leading the league overseeing these teams to investigate the incident. Was it an intentional unsporting act or a misguided but legal attempt to draw an interference call? Let's review. Article: www.closecalls...
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The McCamey Lady Badgers softball team actually did this twice: the catcher's first ball-into-batter throw occurred with a runner on third base on a potential back pickoff play, but in the 6th inning, the catcher's throw into the batter occurred with a runner on second who was not attempting to advance and with no fielder even in the vicinity of third base to receive a potential throw.
Was this just a misguided attempt at drawing an interference call because the batter was about to step out of the batter's box?
We'll look at National Federation of High Schools Rule 2.35 regarding malicious contact and 3.6.13 regarding unsporting acts, as well as the NFHS point of emphasis from 2015 regarding interference with a specific instruction to coaches to teach their players what they must do regarding this infraction.

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@grife3000
@grife3000 Жыл бұрын
Call me crazy but I don't know why she should ever play the game again. That looked insane.
@nacoran
@nacoran Жыл бұрын
Except in prison league.
@beauchang4741
@beauchang4741 Жыл бұрын
You're crazy.
@hitgamer787
@hitgamer787 Жыл бұрын
Crazy
@XGCBlackheart
@XGCBlackheart Жыл бұрын
Nope she should be banned from ever playing again.
@Math.Bandit
@Math.Bandit Жыл бұрын
@@XGCBlackheart Entire school district and athletic director got a 2-year ban.
@frankdurp
@frankdurp Жыл бұрын
I appreciate your detailed and thorough breakdown. This was clearly malicious. Unless she is the absolute worst catcher ever, she had no intent but to drill the batter on both attempts, not even close to looking like she's trying to throw it to third. She is either fucked in the head, or her coach is for inciting her to do this (which should definitely not be mislabeled as any sort of gamesmanship, just a pure bush league attempt to manipulate the rules). Either way there is no room in the game for it.
@stevelundt6498
@stevelundt6498 Жыл бұрын
No it wasn't malicious. The batter is an idiot. The catcher is in the right.
@xroxfist9838
@xroxfist9838 Жыл бұрын
On the first one of the batter wasn’t there it would have hit the left field fence. It wasn’t going to third. Clear intention to hit the batter
@mannyfran8024
@mannyfran8024 Жыл бұрын
This is obviously coached into that catcher. Some coaches will try anything to win. Sportsmanship or not
@bigpoppa1234
@bigpoppa1234 Жыл бұрын
Hitting someone in the dick should be an automatic ejection. Also, stepping BACKWARD out of the box shouldn't possibly be called interference, or at least should be a subjective decision by the umpires (to be on the safe side) because unless there's something really funky going on with infielder positioning, plunking a batter in the head who has gone a step or two back would mean the ball was thrown in a vector out into the dugout. At that softball game/level it might be a good idea to conference with the coach after that first hit in the head and say "While I understand the rules situation that might merit such a throw that you have coached the player on, if your player chucks it into someone's head that's dangerous and if it happens again I''ll eject her and you" under the 'General Article' of the Umpire having the authority to disqualify any player for unsporting conduct.
@CommonSense823
@CommonSense823 Жыл бұрын
Not necessarily. Catchers are taught to drop step and give themselves a throwing lane to third (not what this catcher did). That doesn’t mean a throwing vector to the dugout. But having a batter step back out of the box is interference for that very reason. In actual competitive play (not trying to just get a bogus judgement from an umpire) the catcher doesn’t have time to decide which way the batter is going to move before throwing. The batter should be stationary and the catcher work around them. If the batter moves into the throw/out of the box, it’s clear interference. There also should be a legitimate play at third, which wasn’t the case in either of these throws.
@dbpbatm
@dbpbatm Жыл бұрын
First is borderline. Deserves a comment to batter, catcher and coaches to be mindful of all players safety. Second time is malicious contact with an ejection of catcher and coach. You can see after the first throw that she asks umpire for a call. This was coached. Knowing Texas UIL, I would not be surprised is catcher and coach receive suspensions. This has been found in earlier games by same player and coach. Clearly this coach is teaching these acts and deserves to lose his teaching certification (or at minimum not coach again).
@Math.Bandit
@Math.Bandit Жыл бұрын
Entire district and the sporting director got two year bans, so you weren't wrong.
@Soon2BRev
@Soon2BRev Жыл бұрын
Coach and catcher suspended for the remainder of the year. The second one is NOT a softball play.
@sonnybowman
@sonnybowman Жыл бұрын
Catcher suspended for life subject to appeal.
@BamaMTA04
@BamaMTA04 Жыл бұрын
First one was more than likely enough to warrant the interference call. It had the elements needed. However the second one also had the elements for malicious contact and ejection of catcher and coach.
@LaneMaygren
@LaneMaygren Жыл бұрын
I saw this a couple days ago - Like you, I thought possible interference on the 1st instance with R3, even though the throw would have had to be the worst throw to actually try and throw to 3rd (didn't even look like a real attempt to throw to 3B), the angle was all wrong, but at least there was someone on 3rd to try and throw out. The 2nd time she does it, there isn't even a play at 3rd. Now, I umpire softball and baseball. With softball, sometimes a catcher will throw down to 3rd if R2 takes a big "half-way to third" type lead instead of running her back (need to remember look-back rule in softball, very different play mechanic than baseball). Here though, the 3B is playing WAY in, so that couldn't be the issue either. Here I think the catcher is malicious/unsportsmanlike and I would have ejected the catcher; what she did was extremely dangerous, throw at the head/face of a player on purpose.
@closethockeyfan5284
@closethockeyfan5284 Жыл бұрын
As someone unfamiliar with softball nuances, I appreciate this further insight. Thank you
@sonnybowman
@sonnybowman Жыл бұрын
I agree with you 100% except the ejection should be for life.
@mikejunt
@mikejunt Жыл бұрын
@@sonnybowman Thats a league decision, not the umpire's decision
@johncaccamo
@johncaccamo Жыл бұрын
Agree that for the ump, its likely nothing the first time, but an ejection of the catcher and the coach the second time, given the situation. As for beyond the game, this catcher should be off the team and depending on the investigation, perhaps expelled from the school. Coach fired and possibly sued by the parents of the batter. Id love to see a heavy backswing on the catchers head, but this isnt war, its just girls HS softball and there is no place for retribution there.
@alanm2842
@alanm2842 Жыл бұрын
the league should go after the coach
@markunak6593
@markunak6593 Жыл бұрын
Ejection of the catcher and the coach
@blaine4809
@blaine4809 Жыл бұрын
She threw the ball at the girls face. This should be assault and she did it twice no excuse at all
@baseballfan9848
@baseballfan9848 Жыл бұрын
Dump the catcher for malicious contact. Get control of the game, someone is going to get hurt.
@Pbull75
@Pbull75 Жыл бұрын
Honestly if this were a mens baseball game there would have been a brawl. That was intentional as it gets. The coach and player need suspended
@man4women
@man4women Жыл бұрын
....I would have been ejected and possibly arrested, my bat confiscated--that catcher would think twice before throwing so violently at someone holding a bat...
@concernedcitizen2031
@concernedcitizen2031 Жыл бұрын
My favorite HS softball one is the catcher thaw as salty they were losing so was elbowing runners at the plate and nothing happened to her until after the game was over and UIL investigated. kzbin.info/www/bejne/o4eppKKCnNpnmck For reference this was the state game for I think 4a?
@JohnFranklin-ju2vi
@JohnFranklin-ju2vi Жыл бұрын
Coach should be fired and banned immediately as well as the player. Both were malicious as she took forever to throw the ball bc she was winding up to hit the batter as hard as she could
@hendrixmonroe8333
@hendrixmonroe8333 Жыл бұрын
Yes! That shit was intentional! She’s done this multiple times before in other games. They need to get her ass out.
@gturcott1
@gturcott1 2 ай бұрын
Coach and player ejected. Alert tournament or league officials And hope for suspension
@redtesta
@redtesta 5 ай бұрын
she is throwing at their heads. How ump just standing there and nobody doing anything. Where are the coaches?
@CommonSense823
@CommonSense823 Жыл бұрын
The earlier one is borderline, but nothing called. The second one was intentional and should have resulted in the catcher/manager ejected. The umpire shrugging his shoulders in both situations with no warnings or ejections for the second instance is ludicrous.
@deanb024
@deanb024 Жыл бұрын
I would actually contend that the batter did the catcher a favor on the 1st play IF there was actually a play on as it gave the catcher a clear throwing lane. If people are going to claim interference on the 1st play, then in all likelihood, the catcher's was going to end up in the stands or somewhere down the left field line. This is clearly MC/UC and I would have two ejections, F2 AND the HC.
@CommonSense823
@CommonSense823 Жыл бұрын
​@@deanb024 Agreed. You have to eject certainly after the second instance. The umpire shrugging his shoulders and doing nothing is only inviting the next batter to take a wild swing at the next pitch and catch the catcher in the head. Umpire needs to get control of this situation right away. Doing nothing is not the right answer.
@karlrovey
@karlrovey Жыл бұрын
​@Ryan Lewis Softball umpires seem to turn a blind eye to dirty play by catchers. There's a video of a HS catcher throwing elbows and knocking over incoming runners when there isn't even a play at the plate.
@anthonydavella8350
@anthonydavella8350 Жыл бұрын
This girl threw at a young ladies face from point blank range. I mean wth? She should be banned, she could have knocked out all her teeth, crushed her eye socket or even worse. If a coach taught that to F2 they should be fired
@courgettee
@courgettee Жыл бұрын
the earlier one she threw toward the dugout, that never even had a chance at third
@pauledge1621
@pauledge1621 Жыл бұрын
Watch closely the catcher isn't throwing to third base or F5, this is NOT a play on a runner. This is an attempt to draw a call.
@padredon7
@padredon7 Жыл бұрын
Don't really need to watch "closely." It was glaringly obvious what the Catcher was doing in both instances. Severe sanctions are in order.
@michaelfalkner1186
@michaelfalkner1186 Жыл бұрын
I'd actually go intent to injure.
@theRealBohemian61
@theRealBohemian61 Жыл бұрын
Even on the first throw it was intentional. The 3rd baseman is six feet INSIDE the line…she is throwing in line with the base coach. But the, that is dangerous, no excuse for that STUFF.
@beedevil11
@beedevil11 5 ай бұрын
She was coached up to do this. when the batter moves in the box.
@todd7878
@todd7878 Жыл бұрын
Agree with your assessment. First time it happens, it's hard to say for certain what's going on. Can't really eject without some pretty clear evidence. The second time it happens, especially with no play at 3B, and it's pretty clear what's going on now. I'm ejecting the catcher. I'm hoping I'll be backed up by my assignors when I say it was necessary for player safety. We can't just let the catcher keep pegging batters from two feet away.
@roberthudson1959
@roberthudson1959 Жыл бұрын
Catcher AND coach. Particularly at this level, the catcher doesn't decide to make this play.
@Mattsc1974
@Mattsc1974 Жыл бұрын
Totally agree Catcher and manager are gone... And should been ejected...
@JasVmitten
@JasVmitten Жыл бұрын
Based upon what happened the second time, it's pretty clear what happened the first time was equally criminal.
@critter2
@critter2 Жыл бұрын
catcher, coach i am suspending the team if i was the leauge
@Samanthareneeheart1
@Samanthareneeheart1 Жыл бұрын
No intent necessary for ejection unlike a catcher if you feel it was malicious & or unsporstmanlike at this level BOTH manager & player are ejected the player has to show up for the next game, but can not play coach/manager can not be at the next game or be privy to any post game confrence/ celebration at the field or in the game by ANY MEANS not even texting the assistant coach with instructions.
@jametz66
@jametz66 Жыл бұрын
Looks like a coached tactic. However, that's MC, and an EJ in the 6th inning.
@ronpeacock9939
@ronpeacock9939 Жыл бұрын
Oh god... the first one is borderline.. I could see why the no call simply because even with the ball going to the fence.. the runner made no attempt to move and really, even a back pick only could have hurt the defense as the 3rd basemen was in front of the runner... .. the second one is malicious contact/unsportsmanlike... the second one would have had my game down a catcher and her manager.
@Samanthareneeheart1
@Samanthareneeheart1 Жыл бұрын
I umped a lot of rec HS girls SB, most of the time the girls are taught to get out of the way of a potential throw & maybe steel home, however seeing as the catcher threw the ball out of play 2 basses awarded, yes there could be interference by the batter..... Iffy call there, to me looked kind of deliberate trying to get the interference call, not on my watch. The second : ABOSUTLY BOTH he catcher & manager are ejected & warnings issued to BOTH teams.
@damienbell3155
@damienbell3155 Жыл бұрын
I would have ejected the catcher and coach after 2nd hit batter. No attempt from r2 After the first hit batter I would have called the coaches over and go over the procedure so it doesn’t happen again. Now if the teams look inexperienced I’ll even offer explaining to the catchers and let batters know there responsibilities as a batter,,,,,Game management is necessary here.
@roymauler
@roymauler Жыл бұрын
When you say "my game" do you mean a game in which you are an umpire?
@kelvinmorris1991
@kelvinmorris1991 Жыл бұрын
@@damienbell3155 she did this to other opponents also
@damienbell3155
@damienbell3155 Жыл бұрын
@@kelvinmorris1991 wow so you’ve witnessed this in more than 1 game? What state and city is this in ? There district UIC should be correcting this scenario with his umpires giving them direction on how to handle this.
@edcleve
@edcleve Жыл бұрын
While my gear and strike/ball counter has been put in the attic for a long time that catcher would have been GONE immediately on the 2nd "offense" and the coach would have followed with even a little objection. Horrible unsportsmanlike conduct and actions!
@sonnybowman
@sonnybowman Жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@derrallinder4338
@derrallinder4338 Жыл бұрын
As a 39 year veteran of umpiring high school softball, I would have ejected the catcher in the 6th inning for her in sporting actions. The coach may have followed depending on his/her actions.
@RaJ-lw3im
@RaJ-lw3im Жыл бұрын
Just plain wrong in both instances. C'mon, throwing to third the first time? Eject catcher, coach and get a new umpire. This ump has no knowledge of the game. Also, look at the throwing angle of the catch in both instances. If that catcher didn't hit the batter, the ball would be nowhere near third base. Peace
@stevelundt6498
@stevelundt6498 Жыл бұрын
Then you are a horrible umpire. The catcher was just reacting to the runners on base. And the girl was in the batters box. You play small ball shit like this will happen.
@toddford9839
@toddford9839 Жыл бұрын
​@@RaJ-lw3im you made a great argument! She did it in several games and was just tossed from the league for intent, the school is on two years probation, and coach was dismissed from coaching softball. It's not supposed to be a loophole, but she had earned her team outs by plunking batters on purpose for obstruction calls.
@StrivingTowardsWhatIsAhead
@StrivingTowardsWhatIsAhead Жыл бұрын
That catcher is clearly trying to throw it in the face of the batter.
@mrmoose6619
@mrmoose6619 Жыл бұрын
First one feels scummy, but there's the backpick element. I'd keep my eye on F2. Second one is no doubt Malicious Contact and Unsportswomanlike Conduct. F2 is ejected. I would write it up as a player safety issue as well as MC/UC.
@richpaul6806
@richpaul6806 Жыл бұрын
Throwing a ball into the back of a runner 60 feet away is one thing. Throwing at their face from 2 feet away is something else entirely. Especially when there is no play and it has already happened once that game. This is something that usually only happens a couple times a season if that (unless intentional)
@camr0408
@camr0408 Жыл бұрын
This was actually in a Texas HS playoff game. The second time it happened the catch should've been ejected.
@jwwj30
@jwwj30 Жыл бұрын
Definitely on purpose by the catcher, thus causing an immediate ejection due to her poor sportsmanship, if I was the ump.
@Frostylyxxx
@Frostylyxxx Жыл бұрын
She’s basically throwing it in the third base dugout. That’s intent and that becomes a safety issue and high school rules all revolve around safety
@thomasboyd6242
@thomasboyd6242 Жыл бұрын
Looks like the hp umpire doesn’t know the rules or is totally overwhelmed with umpiring this game. Looks lazy to me!
@iproducerhythm
@iproducerhythm Жыл бұрын
The crazy part is that the same catcher did this during a previous game before this one. So it's clear that it's Intentional
@wyltk75
@wyltk75 Жыл бұрын
Or they are a REALLY bad catcher, but I'm going to go with it being intentional.
@ScallopHolden
@ScallopHolden Жыл бұрын
Neither of the balls thrown by the softball player were going anywhere need a fielder
@gnjaxon
@gnjaxon Жыл бұрын
I was taught to throw through and get hung up with the batter. Both plays seemed excessive and intent to hurt someone.
@alvinthecat8426
@alvinthecat8426 Жыл бұрын
next pitch, batter takes a few steps back, wacks catcher in the head while swinging, catcher interference.
@Renegade605
@Renegade605 Жыл бұрын
With the benefit of replay, I'd eject on both of these instances. In real time, I'd likely miss the first one, but the second time she'd be gone.
@stevenfortney2752
@stevenfortney2752 Жыл бұрын
Disgusting behavior. Sad that this person is out there. Hopefully, she gets help.
@msmith42001
@msmith42001 Жыл бұрын
Benches should have cleared on that. She could seriously injury somebody.
@sonnybowman
@sonnybowman Жыл бұрын
It looked like it was a possibility.
@Boohead86
@Boohead86 Жыл бұрын
This girl should have been ejected and suspended. This is clearly uncalled for and very unsportsmanlike, clearly falls on the coach and maybe even the parents for allowing this kind of behavior in a game.
@tomsvideos6014
@tomsvideos6014 Жыл бұрын
Ejection without question.
@theburnetts
@theburnetts Жыл бұрын
Looks to me like the coach has spent time telling the catcher that if you just drill the batter you might get an interference call. However the catcher doesn’t quite understand that the play at least has to appear like you are trying to throw out a runner at third. And the batter really needs to be fully out of the box. The first play here is marginal. I don’t think in the first play the catcher was actually trying to throw out the runner at third. I think she was trying to hit the batter. The second play is an ejection for malicious contact. Easy. And a good talking to for the head coach and a report to the league about how this coach is coaching his or her players. That’s not how we want to play softball.
@donaldford2825
@donaldford2825 Жыл бұрын
She clearly has some issues. Get her off the field before someone gets clearly hurt. She knows exactly what she is doing.
@rickdoner5181
@rickdoner5181 Жыл бұрын
Absolutely eject the second time. Agree the first is a borderline and not provable thing.
@austin.draude
@austin.draude Жыл бұрын
The first looks blatant in light of the second one, but the umpire could have never known that at the time.
@rickdoner5181
@rickdoner5181 Жыл бұрын
@@austin.draude I agree. As an Ump and Ref, I have to look at pattern of behavior. Better believe I would stick that player in my memory bank though for futured incidents.
@2332Stephen
@2332Stephen Жыл бұрын
Hey I got an idea for an interference call, let's throw at the batters face. Genius.😅
@donh6416
@donh6416 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for sharing. The NFHS rule may have good intentions, the normal process of the batter to reset can't be ignored. If the batter takes an exaggerated drop step(s) then maybe you've got interference. Sounds like the way the rule is written NFHS wants to remove umpire judgement from these situations. I agree with Lindsay that this has all the markings of the catcher "trying" to get an interference call. I would be comfortable tossing both F2 and the HC. Looks to me like batters player safety is of no concern to the defense.
@mikejunt
@mikejunt Жыл бұрын
The NFHS rule isnt really different from the professional rules on this particular kind of interference: its also true in MLB that the batter is protected from interfering only as long as they stay in the box, and that its consequently necessary for batters to recognize when the catcher is going to attempt a play and not step out of the box as they risk interference if that happens.
@raymondistenes1604
@raymondistenes1604 11 ай бұрын
@@mikejunt The batters box is not a sanctuary per the rules. Well coached batters stand still and that is how they get protection. If a batter moves up or back in the box they can be called for interference. The catcher has no way to know which way they will go. (not the case in this video).
@gregdaubner8283
@gregdaubner8283 Жыл бұрын
I would have ejected. Also, I'm curious as to whether or not the ball went out of play. I'd love to award R2 home.
@weewaww
@weewaww Жыл бұрын
If I were the parents of the hit players I would honestly pursue charges against the catcher. It's seems the intent here was to harm the other player and wasn't close to being a normal softball action. Then sue the coach(for not stepping in and correcting the catcher) and league(because of the inaction of the ump) then finally the school district for failing to provide a safe environment for players and not stopping the harm being caused right away.
@alexh8613
@alexh8613 Жыл бұрын
This is something that you see maybe once in you baseball lifetime. Not a batter being hit by a thrown ball from the catcher, but a batter being hit on the front side from a catcher. To see it twice in the same game and with there being absolutely no play at 3rd during the second one, it is clearly malicious contact and the catcher should have been suspended
@lexibell2890
@lexibell2890 Жыл бұрын
I was a catcher for 4 years, high school and travel. Not once have I came close to hitting a batter nor have I ever seen any other catcher do something like this. This is just disgusting
@BryanRT326
@BryanRT326 Жыл бұрын
It’s pretty clear after the first one when the coach immediately argues for the batter to be called out for being hit, he knew she was going to hit her, because he thought her too.
@transcendkira
@transcendkira Жыл бұрын
Neither of those throws actually look as if they catcher is aiming for third base, even the first one looked strangely wild, if not deliberate and the second was absolutely malicious/intentional..
@spyderman312
@spyderman312 Жыл бұрын
Man, you'd have to pull me off that catcher if I was the batter.
@JoeyD_AU98
@JoeyD_AU98 Жыл бұрын
You can tell the parents we’re ready to complain if the ump didn’t call it, which means they have been doing it all season. Catcher was asking for the call too.
@backupgoalie1007
@backupgoalie1007 Жыл бұрын
Its stuff like this that is the reason why I will never ref kids sports again. Coaches that teach their players to game the officials rather than focusing on playing the game always pissed me off. This is really bad because you can injure someone. Ejecting the catcher and coach on the second play would have been an obvious call and I would warn that team they are on thin ice the rest of the game. 99.99999% of these kids are not going pro or even playing D1. Winning doesn't matter. Just teach them fundamentals and how to be a decent teammate and competitor.
@KWally
@KWally Жыл бұрын
Ejection for the 2nd one when no defensive play was warranted
@ag7898
@ag7898 Жыл бұрын
Used to umpirea high school in Los Angeles where they taught the catcher to step into the batter on attempted steals at second. Problem is, we all knew about it. So I have since wondered if they actually LOST OUT on actual Interference calls because of their reputation.
@mikejunt
@mikejunt Жыл бұрын
As long as the batter was staying in the box they were safe at least
@theRealBohemian61
@theRealBohemian61 Жыл бұрын
If I were coach of the team that was batting, I would be into the opposing coach in an instant after the second throw. That girl could have been seriously injured! And the play in the pro baseball game…as the batter, it would ON!!! That little jerk gets put down. That is not baseball.
@jayseaborg3895
@jayseaborg3895 Жыл бұрын
Seems to be a lot of problems with Texas catchers. Wasn't it in Texas where the catcher elbowed two runners coming home a couple of years ago?
@camr0408
@camr0408 Жыл бұрын
Yes! That was in Austin at the State tournament.
@Stoneham64
@Stoneham64 Жыл бұрын
The body language of the catcher says it all. If it was indeed an accident, most players would show some sort of "oh crap" emotion. In both occurrences, the the catcher makes no gestures of concern to the batter. Either a total jerk catcher or a total jerk coach - or both!
@michaelhogg324
@michaelhogg324 Жыл бұрын
I can see the first time is interference but the 2nd time is malicious contact and the catcher should have been tossed from the game!
@rmac8645
@rmac8645 Жыл бұрын
That's assault and she should be legally charged accordingly. I'll say this much, too. If that's a men's baseball game, benches are clearing.
@michaelfalkner1186
@michaelfalkner1186 Жыл бұрын
Catcher's gotta go for that one in the sixth inning. Deliberate. That, in my honest opinion, is so blatant, that could be a forfeiture offense.
@JaxDianne
@JaxDianne Жыл бұрын
It’s ridiculous. The catcher should have been ejected, and I am a former fastpitch softball catcher.
@sonnybowman
@sonnybowman Жыл бұрын
That is disgraceful. It is obviously an intended play and hurting the batter is not a concern, The catcher needs to exit the game and the sport, now!
@KWengSport
@KWengSport Жыл бұрын
I would beat that catcher with my bat if that was done to me or my teammate, that was obviously done on purpose and literally threw at her face point blank. I'd beat the coach too just in case it was his idea
@chuck7514
@chuck7514 Жыл бұрын
Lol if she hit a second person on my team sorry but next time I'm up at bat ooops u were to close to the plate. Head getting taken regardless if she thinks she's in the right.
@Brirend
@Brirend Жыл бұрын
UIL put the school district and the athletic director/coach on two years of probation. The coach/athletic director admitted that the same catcher had done the same thing in four other games and they had benefitted from five interference calls. He also admitted that he believed that the catcher hit the batters on purpose though he claimed that what he saw in the video is not how he remembered events during the game.
@balla2172
@balla2172 Жыл бұрын
I'm sorry if I'm in the battery's box and then it. Can't your hits me squarely with a ball we scrap in right now
@hatlicks18
@hatlicks18 Жыл бұрын
All I know is that if someone does that intentionally to me and I have a bat. Things are going to become uncomfortable for that catcher.
@karlrovey
@karlrovey Жыл бұрын
First one, ok. I can see a no-call there. Second one, catcher and manager are gone. There was no play. There was no chance at a play even if the runner were going. There is now a pattern and you have to shut it down before there's an attempt at retaliation.
@austin.draude
@austin.draude Жыл бұрын
The video that I saw on Twitter had the bases-loaded situation second, so I thought that one happened afterward. After the second one (with the runner on second base), the catcher is gone and anyone who says a word about it is gone. If the coach argues it I'm going into full-blown Bob Davidson mode. :)
@karlrovey
@karlrovey Жыл бұрын
Second one, coach should be gone anyway.
@roymauler
@roymauler Жыл бұрын
Either the catcher is incompetent or doing this intentionally. Either way she needs to be out of the game or get her ass whipped.
@route2070
@route2070 Жыл бұрын
I think the case could be made that what looked like an aggressive lead off (after the pitch, so it looks like faking to steal simce I think in softball you can't lead off before the pitch is thrown) it seemed to the catcher to look like stealing. But if it really is getting this bad (I don't really watch softball so I don't know of any game play trends) it could be in both baseball and softball to be akin to flopping in basketball. Forcing a mistake by the other team that they didn't commit, and have the offensive team penalized since the defense tricked the official.
@chriswood3390
@chriswood3390 Жыл бұрын
How I would have handled it if that was my daughter. Rush the field... Beat the entire team up...
@StrivingTowardsWhatIsAhead
@StrivingTowardsWhatIsAhead Жыл бұрын
They should have bum rushed that catcher and beat her ass for throwing a ball into their teammates face.
@Lannerii
@Lannerii Жыл бұрын
Catcher is playing with fire, and so are the officials by no-calling it. Back in my youth we had a kid slide into our goalie about a half dozen times in a U-12 soccer game. Refs never called anything, so we took matters into our own hands - found him the day after and paid our respects.
@deleted2429
@deleted2429 Жыл бұрын
So… you beat up an 11 year old and now you’re bragging about it?
@Lannerii
@Lannerii Жыл бұрын
@@deleted2429 No? Sharing a personal anecdote to point out the risks involved when using gamesmanship to get away with inflicting violence on opponents in a community game (and not calling it). I felt it was obvious and thus unnecessary to pontificate at great length about the responsibility of officials in youth sports to use their discretion in situations like this to prevent exactly that sort of thing. That's all kind of implicit considering the context of this being a comment on a youtuibe video posted by an officiating channel about a catcher assaulting an opponent and the officials failing to act, but I guess all that went right over your head. Did you even watch the video?
@nickyfingers52
@nickyfingers52 Жыл бұрын
catcher needs to be taught a lesson. dirty play all around. that will catch up to her someday.
@mattingly234ever
@mattingly234ever Жыл бұрын
If I'm that girl's dad the opposing teams coach is leaving with a black eye
@joshnaudi
@joshnaudi Жыл бұрын
I've got an out on the first one and an arrest on the 2nd. Let's get these comments fired up.
@bryanhenry8075
@bryanhenry8075 Жыл бұрын
That catcher would have caught that Bat if you drill me in the face for no reason....
@dummyfatso5537
@dummyfatso5537 Жыл бұрын
It's the batters box. The batter does not have to leave the box to accommodate the catchers throw. The catcher has to change position, not the batter.
@XF3693
@XF3693 Жыл бұрын
She has the intention to do 1 or both of the following things... 1. Hurt the batter 2. get a cheap out call Shame on you. Ejection/suspension/banned from playing are most certainly in order.
@XF3693
@XF3693 Жыл бұрын
There was no play at 3rd on either play. 3rd baseman was playing off the bag on both plays seemingly ready to charge for a bunt or a weak ground ball and was NOT is any position to make a play in either instance.
@trevorobanion8100
@trevorobanion8100 Жыл бұрын
The team that the batter who was intentionally struck, needs to do a vigilante justice and teach that piece of 💩 catcher not to intentionally try to hurt people. The more she gets away with that BS, the more she'll think she can get away with it. So, team of the batter, go bust that girl up and protect your teammate!!!!
@mikejunt
@mikejunt Жыл бұрын
As it turns out she did not further get away with it, and she was kicked out of the league entirely, as was her coach, and the entire team and school were placed on 2 years probation. Which is the right way to do it, not physical vigilante justice that might get someone else injured.
@jenniferandersen1101
@jenniferandersen1101 Жыл бұрын
We were taught to step out of the box after every pitch. So that rules is very confusing. They are just supposed to stay in the box the whole time so it isn't considered interference? She didn't even attempt to go around or anything. It was too casual as she got up and threw straight at her face.
@mikejunt
@mikejunt Жыл бұрын
You should stay in the box if the catcher is attempting a play to a base, and step out only after the activity at home plate is over. You see this a lot in the pros, the rules are the same there: MLB hitters know to stay in the box when they see their guys attempting steals, because incidental contact with the batter on a throw isn't interference as long as they stay in the box, where they're entitled to be. This is even true if the contact is with your bat, like if you swung at the pitch or checked your swing. Stepping out is a good idea, but you shouldn't do it if you see your own player in motion until the ball has left the plate area.
@micahsilverman5284
@micahsilverman5284 Жыл бұрын
The second time, I'd eject the catcher and I'd eject the head coach for "intentionally throwing at the batter".
@bshavon8271
@bshavon8271 Жыл бұрын
When it comes to MY child, yours will not be safe from me.
@smokieintexas7634
@smokieintexas7634 Жыл бұрын
Coach has been suspended and team was put on probation for 2 years.
@petecopeland9906
@petecopeland9906 Жыл бұрын
eject the catcher; eject the coach. consider banishment from the leauge.
@paulmiddleton4215
@paulmiddleton4215 Жыл бұрын
i'm tossing that catcher for initiating "malicious contact"
@fifiwoof1969
@fifiwoof1969 Жыл бұрын
0:07 OOF! Absolutely DRILLED! Point blank. 2:10 GOD DAMN!
@adamwatkins1150
@adamwatkins1150 Жыл бұрын
That little rhymes with witch needs to go to jail.
@baseballfan9848
@baseballfan9848 19 күн бұрын
Coached technique. Unsportsmanlike behavior trying to get a call. Both times batter was in the box. If I'm catching and i'm throwing to the left field stands. I'm stepping up or into the direction of the throw. I would not make a throw towards the base coach (where the batter was in line with). Bush - league, or semi-pro
@Fishing_ninja420
@Fishing_ninja420 25 күн бұрын
For the coaches in the comments, here’s an idea! Instead of trying to exploit a rule maybe practice fundamentals more. This is beyond unsportsmanlike. It’s MC in my opinion. Blue could even argue it on the earlier inning one. From the replay the catcher appears to wait for the batter to step out to throw at her. One could argue that exploiting this rule, or attempting to, is malicious contact. They intended to hit the batter and they did. Certainly it’s hard to make that call live. But on the later one where no possible play, ejections and in this case calls to the AD.
@sonnybowman
@sonnybowman Жыл бұрын
Yes, the first play can prove something. The catcher was not throwing the ball to the third baseman and can easily be seen that she intended to throw the ball at the batter's head. As for the second batter hit, I suspect there is more to this story.
@RageCageGym
@RageCageGym Жыл бұрын
NOTHING MORE ANNOYING THAN THE BATTER STEPPING OUT OF THE BOX INTO THE CATCHERS THROWING LANE TO 3RD. The umps need to get that under control. It takes a HUGE part of the game away from the catcher. I address this SOOO MANY times in all levels of ball. OK...not all levels but some levels. Once the umpire understands and communicates that to the other team there is never a problem. The batter most likley does not know what they are doing but it is a simple rule. STAY IN THE BOX until the ball leaves the catcher's hand to avoid interferring with the catcher making a throw to 3rd, OR 1st with a lefty in the box. . Sorry....Ive just dealt with this for years as a youth coach. First one was definately on the batter. She was outside the box. 2nd one catcher was making a point. Unforntunate and I hope everyone is ok. GREAT STUFF
@TaterChip91
@TaterChip91 Жыл бұрын
The way she acted alone is showing some serious malicious intent. Innocent people show surprise and empathy, instantly putting up both hands to the person they hit and asking if they're ok, clearly displaying shocked body language. What does this catcher do? Watch the ball slowly role past her feet and acting as if she didn't see the girl go down. She gave 0 fucks.
@justinbowling6382
@justinbowling6382 Жыл бұрын
Great explanation on what could be called here. I never thought about this being a potential malicious contact play because I think of malicious contact involving physical contact in some manner between two plays i.e. collision or excessively hard tag.
@KaGe-oh2jb
@KaGe-oh2jb 24 күн бұрын
I've only seen throws like this in girls softball. Just play the game normal this is not a professional way to play the game. Beyond unsportsman like, this is malicious.
@matrixwalker
@matrixwalker 5 ай бұрын
Seems like these days, coaches no longer know the difference between gamesmanship and just outright bush league assault. Any coach who coaches this needs to be ejected from coaching kids entirely. This is basically teaching kids to cheat, lie, and steal. In MLB, any stuff like this gets the catcher a 99 mph fastball in the ribs next time he’s at bat.
@sandrajanney6403
@sandrajanney6403 Жыл бұрын
The catcher should be charged with attempted murder because that ball could HAVE KILLED THAT KID JUST AS WELL AS A GUN!!!!!HITTING HIS HEAD And the umpire????? Why in the (H) HE didn't go to the student and help??????
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