Closeted Musical Theatre Characters: Reddit Theories

[@annevanderelst247]

Which theories did I miss? Xx

[@iHarryPowell]

LeFou ! Easily a huge gay.

[@annevanderelst247]

@@iHarryPowell especially in the live action film 👀

[@TheHonourableDaisyWells]

Michael from be more chill is a really popular one, I loved the video btw!!! Part two???

[@annevanderelst247]

@@TheHonourableDaisyWells if I gather a lot of other theories, I would definitely be up for it! 🤓

[@dominiclewis973]

Alexander Hamilton and John Lauren’s

[@lovechafes]

It’s implied in the wicked books that Elphaba and Glinda were in love but didn’t quite recognize it. Glinda is in awe of Elphaba, I think she refers to her hair as coffee spun into threads, night rain, black silk. There’s major romantic tension and yearning when they meet again after years being apart, and Glinda thinks about Elphaba CONSTANTLY in her old age. I think she thinks of her deceased husband like once lol. It’s implied that Glinda dies in prison and Elphaba comes to her at the end. She says “You wicked thing. You took your own sweet time, of course.” I like to think they were reunited in the afterlife. They do kiss on the mouth lol. All of Elphaba’s descendants are queer too. Her son Liir is bisexual and ends up living with his male partner, and Liir’s daughter Rain is also bisexual and in a relationship with Ozma, the queen of oz. I appreciate that the later books are explicitly gay instead of subtext. The play in general is pretty hetero tho.

[@JJBATLEY]

This makes me want to read the wicked book more

[@TheSoundOfGeorgia]

Not to mention Frex. He outright tells Elphie that his feelings for Turtle Heart were more than platonic. And it definitely seemed like it was mutual and Frex and Melena and Turtle had a love triangle/throuple thing going on. These books are so confusing at times. It’s only been six months since I read them last and I’ve forgotten a lot already, or half of it didn’t go in to begin with. I also haven’t read the sequel trilogy about Rain yet, so I don’t recall everything you’ve said, but there are definitely a lot of rainbow tones in the series, and I love that. Liir and Trism were so much better than Liir and Candle.

[@Heathersproshotedits1989]

Veronica is BI , at a cut show last year (when Erin Caldwell was Veronica) they had none of the male ensemble and the lyric in big fun “a hot guy smiled at me without a trace of mockery “ got changed to “a hot GIRL smiled at me without a trace of mockery“

[@LionGrl321]

i always thought heather chandler had a crush on veronica. she literally just let veronica in her group and gave her a free makeover. yes veronica got the heathers out of trouble but that isnt really that much. veronica's name isnt even heather so it kind of messes the whole 'they're all called heather , therefore they are the heathers' thing lol. also, heather chandler seems to dislike jd a lot. so i think heather chandler is a lesbian who crushed on veronica (or at least she is sapphic). tbh, i think all of the heathers had a crush on veronica but mainly chandler. oof. sorry for ranting lol. im just a big chansaw shipper

[@una-persona6195]

I love how those little changes can change the whole interpretation of the show lol ❤

[@theforgottencompanion]

@@LionGrl321 I think we all just love the popular mean girl is actually a lesbian trope. I'm not saying that Heather C isn't a lesbian, or that she isn't attracted to Veronica, I like the idea of Heather C being into Veronica a lot; I just think we collectively have a thing for hot women who are powerful and rude, and therefore want most of them to be sapphic.

[@LionGrl321]

@@theforgottencompanion honestly, you're right i literally always headcanon the queen bee mean girl as a lesbian... but thats usually cause i have a thing for them lmao i mean, sometimes there is evidence that could lead to them being potentially sapphic but whether there is evidence or not, many people (like me) will still headcanon them as sapphic anyway lol

[@Mudkip0408]

For Six, it definitely depends on the person playing the role. I know Baylie Carson, the previous West End Anne Boleyn, who is queer and Non Binary, said that their portrayal of Boleyn uses She/They pronouns and their costume was designed to include a binder. I think the fact that Six is such an adaptable show, means that each person can customise their queen (or queens) to be however they want to portray them.

[@annevanderelst247]

Oooh I didn’t know that!

[@Fazer_Blast]

Elsa also could be Lesbian and Asexual! Since Asexuality means feeling little to no sexual attraction, so she could be that and still be lesbian. Me personally I see her as aromantic and asexual, but having a lesbian princess / queen would be a great step forward for Disney.

[@annevanderelst247]

Oh of course! I think I was confused between ace and aroace for a second 🙈

[@AlanaClimber]

I’ve always had a theory that Glinda was a closeted lesbian but Elphaba was straight. Glinda does a lot of performative heterosexuality by immediately going after the most handsome student in school before even talking to him. Then months/a year later she pushes for an engagement, but realizes that she isn’t actually happy despite getting everything she wants (Thank Goodness). Defying Gravity could also be read as her rejection of her true self by remaining behind instead of “being out” like Elphaba chooses to. I just think that it’s a really interesting way to interpret the character without lumping her in as part of an Elphaba/Glinda ship.

[@annevanderelst247]

Yes, that makes a lot of sense

[@una-persona6195]

I think Elphaba could be pansexual, she showed that connection with Glinda too, but you have a nice theory!

[@CureSpiderAvatarTurt]

I could see Kathrine Parr being aromantic. Throughout her song she goes from viewing her relationships from romantic to platonic. It’s possible she believed what she was feeling was love until realizing all she wanted was a friend

[@mirrorb99ll]

That’s Katherine Howard actually but whatever

[@Firegen1]

Catherine Parr being aromatic has historical prescendent though. (And I mean Parr in this case). She was married twice prior to Henry and had another prospect in Jane Seymour's (Heart of Stone) brother. There is a good article from the Smithsosian about the TV series Firebrand. I think based on how she lived her life, I just have the sneaking suspicion that had marriage not been a forced choice to move forward in her time.... she wouldn't have bothered. Whether that makes her ace or just more a woman of now we'll never know. She'd have definitely bugged the incels..

[@simisyt]

aro cinderella is brilliant i'm going to go listen to a very nice prince for representation now

[@annevanderelst247]

Yes, love it!

[@nanalove3819]

I'm so glad that I'm not the only one who thinks that. A very nice prince always screamed aro to me.

[@Nobody_x0]

You're really gonna talk about Chad and Ryan and NOT mention that they SWAPPED CLOTHES?

[@annevanderelst247]

Omg how did I forget?! I'm ashamed

[@Nobody_x0]

@annevanderelst247 it was a good video otherwise though 😄

[@annevanderelst247]

@@Nobody_x0 hihi, thanks!

[@Nobody_x0]

@@annevanderelst247 you're welcome 😊 I actually just found your channel today, but I've really been enjoying it so far

[@Thee_Bootique]

I played iago and as a queer theather kid i was like, "iago is queer, like gender-queer or something he is fruity." I told this to another queer friend, who played genie and he said " both jafar and iago are, they were made by a gay man." I just have the theorie, and i play ryan right now and he is fruity!!!

[@NotD-kp3by]

I watched Wicked for the first time not to long ago and i genuinely thought that Glinda and Elphaba were gonna end up together, first with What is this feeling, then the dance and then the end of Popular (plus Glinda's relationship with Fiyero low key red as compulsory heterosexuality to me) I remember seeing the end of the show and thinking those two are literally one of the gayest characters in broadway.

[@LionGrl321]

exactlyyy. i was so dissapointed when elphaba ended up with fiyero at the end and was devastated that glinda was left all alone. lmao. glinda and elphie should have been together. and its even sadder when you find out that in the book that wicked the musical was based off of (wicked: life and times of the wicked witch of the west) glinda and elphaba actually KISSED. it was in the same scene that ended up being 'defying gravity' in the musical and in that scene in the musical, one of the lyrics in the song is literally " *kiss me goodbye* im defying gravity" we were robbed honestly 😭

[@kyubey-mi1du]

Where my queer theatre kids at?🏳️‍🌈

[@Idk_stuffffff]

Here 💪

[@tarinblanding1584]

Suppppppp 👋🏿

[@Philippadrinkstea]

Heyyyy 👋

[@Veronnieezie]

Skibidi 😁

[@ilike_garlicbread]

Here!!

[@elenalytical]

I’m suprised Enjolras and Grantaire (moreso Grantaire) weren’t mentioned! Their queer coding mostly comes from the book but a lot of actors in the musical have made for some moments between them. Also George Blagden (who played Grantaire in the 2012 movie) made a video covering “I will follow you into the dark”, which is a song that was already associated with the ship, and changed the lyrics to fit Grantaire’s perspective.

[@lenabluejay1166]

This makes me so happy to see that other people see it too! I'm obsessed with their love story!!

[@coolcatrizz]

LITERALLY !!!

[@Moon_lovesToh]

“Does it have a name, YESSS” Me: “Love?” “LOATHING. UNADULTERATED LOATHING” Me: “ah.”

[@annevanderelst247]

Riiiiight 😅

[@brynr.9355]

I'm surprised Laurens and Hamilton wasn't mentioned. There's even some historical evidence that supports this. Letters between the IRL Laurens and Hamilton had some *undertones*

[@annevanderelst247]

Oooh, I didn't know about this

[@scribble1761]

I don’t think this is quite a theory though, it’s just historic accuracy

[@brynr.9355]

@@scribble1761 True, but I think it would be interesting to analyze how/if the musical makes any nods to it. Like the line, "Laurens, I like you a lot."

[@flaimita]

Glinda is probably one of my favorite bisexual characters ever like. She is in love with Fiero. She is in love with Elphaba. She has to shove that love of Elphaba aside only for him to choose Elphaba. He’s that boy. She’s not that girl. Perhaps if Glinda had ever made a different choice, there would be no question at all.

[@lenabluejay1166]

Whenever I see the shipping debates in the Wicked fandom, I'm just like "they both like Fiyero, he likes both of them, and they both like each other... I see an obvious solution where everyone's happy..." Surprisingly, I haven't heard anyone else ship all three of them, but I stand by that.

[@PelafinaLievre]

@@lenabluejay1166There’s two of us! There are little moments of Fiyero and Glinda fretting over Elphaba, and I really think she needs both of them. Then again, shipping triads is my toxic trait.

[@lenabluejay1166]

@@PelafinaLievre Now that there's officially two of us, we need a ship name for them! I've heard "Gelphie" and "Elfiyero" (or "Fiyeraba") individually, so Gelphiyero?

[@_purble]

In the Company revival, I loved the choice for Joanna to try to set Bobbie up with Larry. The way Patti played that whole scene was absolutely terrifying in a way I'd never got from any previous production I'd seen, including other Patti performances

[@mr_jack22222]

The one with neurodivergent characters sounds cool, i suggest noel gruber from rtc

[@sharpeningtheaxe]

Yes, please do a neurodivergent-coded one!! I loved this

[@annevanderelst247]

Yay! Any characters you’re already thinking of?

[@sharpeningtheaxe]

@@annevanderelst247 Okay, I ended up having way more to say about this then I realized! So I hope this is helpful, lol. I would say the most obvious one I can think of is Matilda reading as autistic, especially with her song “Quiet.” Jeremy from Be More Chill literally putting a microchip in his brain that allows a little voice to tell him how to behave properly in social situations also feels very neurodivergent-coded. And there was originally that lyric in the song Be More Chill from the preview, “Every lame characteristic makes you come off as autistic.” The song “Waving Through a Window” from DEH definitely embodies his anxiety and depression, but it could also easily be read from the perspective of masking and rejection sensitivity for someone with ADHD/autism. “Let it Go” from Frozen reads heavily to me as someone who’s had to mask autistic traits, was never taught any coping skills, and is afraid of their inability to emotionally regulate causing meltdowns where they lose control and hurt, scare, or disappoint people. The imagery of her being curled up helplessly in her room alone, surrounded with ice, as well as how joyous she is when she can be alone and finally let everything out without fear or shame, are both extremely relatable. I think Maria from Sound of Music is very much described like someone with ADHD in the song “Maria.” Mulan’s inventiveness in trying to make her daily tasks more fun is a very relatable ADHD trait. She also is late and has to write things on her arm for the meeting with the match-maker, despite it obviously being extremely important to her. The song “Reflection” literally mentions “wearing a mask” and feeling like she can’t be herself without letting everyone down. Ariel has a hyper-fixation or special interest in the human world and has an entire grotto filled with her collection of objects from it. She’s frequently missing rehearsals, wandering into dangerous situations (like the ship-wreck), and making impulsive decisions (signing a contract without even reading it). A lot of these are relatable to me from an ADHD perspective.

[@annevanderelst247]

@@sharpeningtheaxe wow these are all amazing, thank you! 😍

[@acidl0llip0p21]

Kenny Ortega, who directed high school Musical conformed that Ryan is gay

[@lucyla9947]

Okay the thing with Tuggoffolees, yeah it's queer. It's so obvious. Fucking hell Tugger sings an entire song about how cool Misto is, and the original Choreo includes a rainbow ribbon, and several partner-type choreo bits, including Tugger taking off Misto's jacket at one point (Also you can't tell me that Misto throwing a rainbow ribbon and then Linking arms with Tugger to skip over said Ribbon isn't queer as fuck). The Broadway revival choreo also includes a rainbow, with Misto's light up jacket, and if we go to the Revival version of Tugger's number, whilst Tugger indulges other cats in their fangirling, he actively pursues and initiates stuff with Misto, pulling him into the center of the stage for a partner dance in the middle of the number.

[@LionGrl321]

Gelphie (glinda x elphie) is one of my fav musical theatre ships. im **pretty** sure gregory maguire confirmed elphaba as bi and i personally headcanon glinda as a closeted lesbian. at the very least she definitely has a crush on elphie. 'what is this feeling' queerbaited me into thinking they were gay for eachother. but they revealed that the feeling was 'loathing'. they're in denial lol. also, ive watched the 'wicked is gay' video 3 times and its sooo worth watching. i highly reccommend (if u havent already watched it). gelphie is probably the biggest ship in the wicked community lol

[@annevanderelst247]

I’ve watched it now, and I’m so convinced! These two deffo have romantic feelings for each other

[@LionGrl321]

@@annevanderelst247 frrr

[@AllyWasson]

Love this for pride month! I'd also throw in Mama Morton; I've never seen Chicago live, but the movie definitely implied a sexual tone to some of the quid pro quo, particularly with Velma. Plus, the way Queen Latifah played Mama and Roxy's first interaction? Come on now. And yes yes yes on Glinda and Elphaba! Especially in the book.

[@annevanderelst247]

Yes I definitely also picked up on that vibe in the movie! Queen Latifah knew what she was doing

[@lewang9898]

Electra from Starlight Express, they literally have a song with lines like “AC/DC is ok by me”, which apparently was a slang for bisexual back then in Britain? And I think ALW confirmed this in either his interview or bibliography. And of course the most recent London revival changed one of the male character, Greaseball, to female, and typically GB has a girlfriend so……

[@annevanderelst247]

Interesting 🤓

[@tansygoblin8601]

Yes, GB and Dinah are lesbians in the revival! Also Electra is now canonically nonbinary and uses they/them pronouns (although i've always thought of them as genderfluid. How else are we meant to interpret the line 'i can switch and change my frequency'?)

[@andresmaldonado8935]

If you do the neurodivergent coded video you should put Jeremy from be more chill because we now that there is neurodivergent representation with Christine but Jeremy to me is also neurodivergent and there’s a video that explains it better you should watch it

[@Coolpup5672]

One for six: (it’s the actresses but still) the original Katherine Howard and Anne of Cleves are actually girlfriends

[@una-persona6195]

Sorry for telling you this, buddy. But they broke up long time ago

[@Coolpup5672]

@@una-persona6195 oh ok

[@LionGrl321]

OMG YESS A WHOLE VIDEO ABT MUSICAL THEATRE CHARACTER QUEER HEADCANONS. THANKYOU FOR MAKING THIS :D

[@annevanderelst247]

You’re so welcome 😍

[@elliethefuzzyturtle]

Misto isn't canonically a girl that was just that person's theory

[@thatonebluedog]

A video on neurodivergent characters sounds really cool! Personally I think of Elle Woods from Legally Blonde as autistic and/or having adhd, but that may be me projecting

[@annevanderelst247]

Ooh because of her hyperfocus?

[@thatonebluedog]

@@annevanderelst247 Partly, yeah. Also because she’s impulsive, values integrity over pleasing others/her own benefit (a trait I believe certain studies have found to be more common in autistic people, due to us not “understanding” social conventions), and I think at one point when I was hyperfixated on the show I thought that maybe her Red Bull addiction could be attributed to self-medicating, though I wouldn’t say I know enough about that topic to say that for sure

[@mathildehb0076]

The plot of Cabaret would make more sende if Cliff was a closeted lesbian woman, and that she and Sally came out together. 1) The slightly homophobic subplot about Victor and Bobby, would be less problematic. 2) It would make more sense that Sally only slept with men to get jobs and finally found a girl she liked. 3) It would be cool if Ernst Ludwig was flirting with her and simping, and that she was always friend zoning him, and especially rejecting him after she finds his political viewpoints. 4) Her personal fear of the nazis, and wish to leave Berlin, would get a stronger aspect and the plot would generally become more emotional.

[@charlotte-op4vz]

for a potential neurodivergent coded character video, i really relate to jack from into the woods as an autistic person

[@annevanderelst247]

Interesting!

[@W3ndy_D4rling]

I always thought about Jack and David from Newsies having some tension. My friend and I watched the movie(s), and we noticed in both of them, there was a lot of things that Jack only did with David, not even with Sarah or Katherine. I interpret them either closeted, or just friends who have a strong bond. I can’t decide!

[@theJellyBeanies]

Its confirmed in the high school musical series that ryan is gay. However he did not end up with chad. I really enjoyed the video and i really like your channel cuz i love broadway 😊❤

[@annevanderelst247]

Oooh, I never finished the series so I didn’t know 🤓

[@emmaflannagan5204]

anne i love your channel! you’re funny but you also present great information at the same time. love your vids, keep it up!

[@annevanderelst247]

Thank you 😇

[@JJBATLEY]

Is it just me who thinks mama from Chicago is bi?

[@annevanderelst247]

Oh 100%

[@Firegen1]

I always read her as a lesbian. That said that is because of Queen Latifah's portrayal and Jinkx Monsoon.

[@j_mushroom2358]

I think the idea of Kurt and Ram being gay comes from internalized homophobia and such. It’s pretty easy to see why people think they could be; they do seemingly everything together. Their personalities of intense homophobia, sexualization of the Heathers and Veronica, and etc could be a front as they’re very stereotypical. They’re never actually with anyone besides quick implied bangs and heavy flirting (Heather Mac says Kurt was her sorta kinda boyfriend). Also everyone is just so quick to be like “oh that makes sense, they were gay” (besides Martha, but to be fair she’s very very obsessive of Ram)

[@annevanderelst247]

Yes, I think you're right

[@bella-0064]

I wished you mentioned Heather Chandler and Veronica. I mean nothing about Heather interacting with Veronica is straight

[@Heathersproshotedits1989]

Bahahaha, flashbacks to heather C grabbing Veronica’s thigh as she dies 😝🥹🤣

[@LionGrl321]

yesss i always thought heather chandler had a big crush on veronica. she literally just let veronica in her group and gave her a free makeover. yes veronica got the heathers out of trouble but that isnt really that much. veronica's name isnt even heather so it kind of messes the whole 'they're all called heather , therefore they are the heathers' thing lol. also, heather chandler seems to dislike jd a lot. so i think heather chandler is a lesbian who crushed on veronica (or at least she is sapphic). tbh, i think all of the heathers had a crush on veronica but mainly chandler. oof. sorry for ranting lol. im just a big chansaw shipper

[@bella-0064]

@@LionGrl321 Don’t worry as a multishipper (Chansaw and Poly Heathers + Veronica) I will gladly listen to your ranting.

[@LionGrl321]

@@bella-0064 haha thx

[@stellasdoesstuff]

7:49 isn't it Rod who's the closeted gay man in Avenue Q? Unless I'm forgetting something about Princeston...

[@annevanderelst247]

No yes, that Reddit user confused me haha! Deffo Rod

[@whizzerbrowngoingdown]

QUEEN ANNE IS BACK

[@annevanderelst247]

🥰

[@k1n9bo0]

omg id love to see one of your analysis videos with beetlejuice :3

[@annevanderelst247]

Oh don’t you worry, that’s definitely coming! Just waiting for the new film 🤓

[@amazingspiderlad]

Wait I'm confused about the part with Princeton from avenue Q- I'm pretty sure there's nothing in the show that suggests he's queer, are you sure you're not getting him mixed up with Rod?

[@annevanderelst247]

Hahah ooopsie yes it is Rod! 🙈 That Reddit user confused me 😅

[@ashy_inking1476]

As a bisexual girlie I love your content 🙏happy pride

[@mooonblooom]

making one with neurodivergent characters would be so so so cool!!!!!! (sincerely a gay autistic musical fan)

[@Unkreativ-10]

Love your Musical content ❤️❤️❤️

[@annevanderelst247]

Thank you 😘

[@a.t.trujillo9970]

I really like be more chill and a lot of people headcanon Michael from the musical as gay I have an actually watched recording of the musically yet so I don't know if it makes sense or not but I'm not against it in fact I actually kind of like it and also does anyone know what happened to the be more chill movie that was announce to be in production in 2018 because there's been no updates on the movie some pretty sure it's probably dead or stuck in development hell

[@annevanderelst247]

Yeah I haven’t seen it either! Maybe I’ll watch a good slime tutorial one of these days

[@dana-pagame-la-terapia]

It was confirmed by one of the creators from Be More Chill that no one is staright! And they also implied in some sort of Q&A that Michael is gay! Also, have to love how the fandom looked at Jeremy and instantly went HE'S BI AND READY TO CRY

[@thenyctophiliaphantasmagor8643]

Kelsie was actually an admitted by Disney response to the gay theory

[@thetheatrekidblewup]

connor murphy is canonly bi/smth like that (atleast in the book) i havent seen the musical so idk if its in the musical.

[@annevanderelst247]

I didn’t pick up on any clues in the musical, but that obviously doesn’t mean they’re not there (as this video proves haha)

[@AutisticChristian]

8:30 just because Cinderella doesn’t like ONE guy (who is an arrogant a hole) doesn’t mean she’s ace or queer

[@zoejnobaptiste3332]

I think in the books, Glinda is more lesbian coded as opposed to bisexual. (I haven't fully read them and have only read excerps so maybe I could be missing some context) But Glinda is stated to only seek money and titles from guys and doesn't care to have sex with her husband. She marries for status not love. In the books she also never likes Fiyero (though that's cuz he's dark skinned in the books. I think when Elphaba mentions him Glinda responds that he's 'too dark'). She's supposedly into a guy named Averic who fits her status ideals but it seems there isn't really any attraction. But there isn't any love triangle in the books since they persue different men. It reads as comphet on Glinda's part. Glinda goes on tangents in her mind about Elphaba's hair and in her old age the only thing she remembers about their trip to the Emerald city is that they shared a bed. She thinks about them sharing a bed a lot. She thinks about Elphie making her giddy and such. She finds Elphie beautiful and does not think about any of the men she supposedly likes even a quarter as much as she obsesses over Elphaba. Elphaba can be read as bisexual and possibly intersex in the books. It can be read that Glinda is pretty much madly in love with Elphaba and that while Elphie likes Glinda (she kisses her goodbye on the lips and calls her 'my sweet'), she is much more into Fiyero. Like she loves Fiyero a lot.

[@annevanderelst247]

I clearly need to read the books sometime

[@zoejnobaptiste3332]

@@annevanderelst247 I heard they're a tough read though. Sometimes on the gruesome side, other times quite bleak and the author writes sort like those old British authors so it can be hard to follow at times. You may like it and many ppl love it but lots of ppl aren't too keen on it. But I've read a bunch of excerpts, mainly about Glinda as the romance is more on her side. The writing in them seems quite good. But having the full context would be better lol. Though the story is a lot less about the two of them than the musical is. It's more about Elphaba. But the parts pertaining to them are quite interesting. When they part ways in the Emerald city, after Elphaba kisses her, Glinda cries a lot and notes that Elphie was not crying. So it feels that though Elphaba clearly loves Glinda a lot (I've read paragraphs of her being protective of Glinda etc ), in a romantic sense Glinda was way more smitten. But in the last book (not sure how many books are in the series, also Glinda is more of a side character in the sequels which follow Elphie's kid) it's alluded that they escape together. Elphaba breaks Glinda out of prison but like it doesn't explicitly say it was her. The author has cheekily confirmed that they're endgame but it's up to interpretation really. If you do read the book, or the series I hope you enjoy it.

[@absolute_rose27]

one reason i feel like regina is gay is because you always hear that if someone is bullying you they’re projecting their own insecurities on you, and reg bullied janis for being gay…..

[@annevanderelst247]

👀

[@dangafrea]

Actually you can be Lesbian and Asexual (im Pan romantic asexual)

[@annevanderelst247]

I seeee, I confused ace with aroace for a second there. Sorry!

[@coolcatrizz]

Ok for the neurodivergent coded one, I would personally include Javert from Les Misérables as autistic. Just the fact that he was so obsessed with the law for most of his life and one man for 17 years is the first sign. Also in the book he tends to fidget with stuff on his desk.

[@annevanderelst247]

Thanks for the tip!

[@AnneleenRoesems]

Great video 😊

[@annevanderelst247]

Danku! Xx

[@AnneleenRoesems]

@@annevanderelst247 haha exposed door Vlaamse naam 😁

[@annevanderelst247]

@@AnneleenRoesems haha helemaal!

[@CarrotY0utube]

I once played multiple female characters when making a "commercial" for a book In my English class. (in Christian private school)

[@redique]

Hope Bobby from Campany is in here 👀. Edit: NO PLEASE, I wanna belive in Gay Bobby 😫

[@annevanderelst247]

Haha but you can!!!

[@bluewindgetssobare]

i dont think bobby/bobbie is gay but i do think they could be demiromantic or some other aro variety! (might just be me projecting lol)

[@annevanderelst247]

Possibly!

[@Unkreativ-10]

HAPPY PRIDE MONTH!!!!🏳️‍🌈🏳️‍⚧️

[@annevanderelst247]

Woohoooooo!

[@demonslayerlover_]

no HAMILTON?!?!?!?!?

[@annevanderelst247]

I was completely unaware! Someone else in the comments explained it

[@ravi0liii]

I definitely don't see SIX as queer coded nor a queer story (whoever said that needs to be smacked with a dictionary) especially that these characters are based off of actual living people - Catherine of Aragon was married to Henry and genuinely loved him, Anne Boleyn had several male love interests, Jane Seymour also in a relationship with Henry, with Katherine Howard we have to exclude Mannox, Dereham and Henry as these were not consensual, but they really cared for each other with Thomas, Catherine Parr was married 4 times and the fourth she married a man for love. With Anne of Cleves it may be a bit complicated, because she in fact hadn't remarried, but that may be of other causes such as language barrier and being simply too afraid to marry again, after all she had a good deal with Henry

[@annevanderelst247]

Cool, ok. I was afraid I might have been missing something huge haha

[@ravi0liii]

@@annevanderelst247 as you said, there are no indications whatsoever

[@lenabluejay1166]

I mean, it's true that there's no indication, but we shouldn't dismiss it solely on the grounds that they loved men. Bi people exist. This doesn't mean that any of the queens were bi, but someone being in straight relationships and genuinely loving the other person doesn't automatically mean they're not queer. I do agree that Six isn't a queer story, not for that reason, but because the point of the show is that their relationships don't define them (particularly as a feminist statement about how history only remembers them for the man they married regardless of their own lives and contributions).

[@annevanderelst247]

@@lenabluejay1166 very true!

[@fex6337]

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[@thenyctophiliaphantasmagor8643]

Not misgendered. I’m sorry. But. No.

[@peter_pansexual6243]

Evan is actually either bi or pan like Connor. One of the creators of the show has said that if Connor had lived he and Evan would have ended up together.

[@annevanderelst247]

Oooh interesting 🧐

[@peter_pansexual6243]

@@annevanderelst247 The way Evan describes Connor in the book is also kinda done in a romantic way. "...he disappears behind a dark shroud. Passing between us is the mysterious creature known as Connor Murphy." "His eyes-what little I can see of them through his overgrown hair-are two steely blue death rays." "...Connor seems like he's way older than me, like I'm a kid and he's a man." He's pretty much describing him as tall dark and handsome and is saying "I'm a boy and he's a man."