First EVER LeBron vs Jordan Debate With Stephen A. Smith & Shannon Sharpe | EP. 85 CLUB SHAY SHAY

[@samgoodythe1165]

I love this. It’s like listening to your uncle’s argue in the living room on thanksgiving 😂.

[@Roughcc]

Every year 😂😂

[@michelestoichkov4512]

difference is my jacked uncle at one moment says i will slap you for talking shi7 :D

[@landoncrouch4853]

​@@michelestoichkov4512🤣

[@dearrellhiggins9724]

😂😂😂😂, this my daddy and brother

[@richborn6700]

​@@michelestoichkov4512stg its always the gym rats in the family that always first to escalate any argument to "well lets just box"

[@BasicBodThor]

To be honest, SAS having LeBron #2 and debating Shannon on why he's not #1 makes sense, vs Shannon debating Skip who thinks LeBron is barely in the top 10 all time

[@ClutchGene]

Bron isn’t even 2

[@konnorpalmer8676]

@@ClutchGeneyour bugging

[@jaylenpouncy1920]

@jmoney6043but its not a lie lebron is goat go cry about it

[@j0eyhz620]

Kareem better, magic better, Kobe better

[@tuckfrump9173]

Bro isn't even in the top 5. I'll give him 7 overall..

[@Dub257]

The biggest LeBron and Jordan supporters going at it 😂

[@georgetyler6823]

Have you heard of skip bayless???

[@Dub257]

@@georgetyler6823 We don’t say skip name 😂

[@RJ-cv2uw]

Skip is Jordan's biggest supporter

[@McFrappin]

​@Dub257 Yes we do.

[@safeman5383]

No lol the biggest lebron hater vs biggest lebron supporter

[@bh055]

"Right now you get called for passing gas" 😂😂

[@justingriego6986]

Go watch Jordan’s playoff games and tell me the refs don’t call the exact same calls they call today.

[@KL-xe5ec]

​@@justingriego6986 exactly they changed the rules to get the pistons out and its been the same ever since 😂😂😂

[@beanz4rmbankhead6]

He never told a lie 😅

[@st0832]

@@KL-xe5ec they needed to get the pistons out of their physical defense, they would literally abuse and injure players physically on purpose, which was going way too far in their era and in today’s era which is why so many people hated them

[@wrd2matimbs646]

One of the healthiest and most respectful sports debates I’ve ever seen. They let each other talk, they agreed on certain points, and they let each other express their disagreements, with mild to almost no interruption. I’m glad Uncle Sharpe is able to bring out out this side of SAS.

[@DavidMedinaKOF]

Thanks to steph A smith cause the other guy was screaming and interrupting all the time

[@jessehaskins7849]

Also entertaining af

[@rogerc23]

@@DavidMedinaKOF nah he was just having fun. But it did make me think I’d seriously not want to be in a room with Shannon if he was really angry. It would be terrifying.

[@kebabdevil6611]

Sarcasm at its finest 🤌

[@thafuture1050]

the fact they're letting each other speak is amazing.. great debate fellas 👏🏾

[@kenrichorton6863]

😂😂

[@chriscampbell8074]

It's not a great debate when Shannon's only response to facts that destroy his side of the debate is "yeah, but..." He's basically admitting that he's lost the debate when he can't defend his stance against facts.

[@jamesswift7620]

​@@kenrichorton6863😅😮😮

[@ldotbernal]

​@chriscampbell8074 facts but at least they're making sense instead of Shannon debating with Skip.

[@shadbarboza38]

@@chriscampbell8074Steven a is the one repeating Shi

[@RecapRico]

“I didn’t hear you say that when Magic was here”😂😂😂😂 Stephen A really showing that there’s levels to trolling

[@Hooperd2023]

Had me crying yo 😂

[@sunnywestside4210]

Magic was 73 😭

[@alib6936]

My man does his research 😂

[@matija8063]

O😊ooo

[@DanceswithHyenas]

That was a body check 😅😅😅

[@PadrinoGambino]

“Most of us sane individuals know better”

[@SO-5679]

I agree bro... Lebron is definitely the GOAT. Nobody has seen a player like him...

[@Naxx1987]

​@@SO-5679hopefully you have already your next appointment for brain scan😂

[@Tj123realskrrnation]

The chemistry between these two is instantly great no surprises there

[@FastLane12345]

SAS show more professionalism, Shannon still annoying as the same

[@LuckyBullet]

Kooooobbbbeeeeeeeeeee

[@liamsmith2340]

Stop that bs

[@GETAHUN-v5z]

Oh they are very Good friends & it shows.

[@JamesWilliams-wc2zq]

1988, Michael Jordan won Defensive Player of the Year and the scoring tile (35 PPG). That same year, Jordan also collected every major individual accolade: - MVP - Defensive Player of the Year - All-NBA First Team - All-Star Starter - All-Star Game MVP - Slam Dunk Champion - Scoring Leader - Steals Leader WITHOUT MISSING A SINGLE GAME

[@lolipopi503]

This will end the debate.

[@lucasphillips2177]

@@lolipopi503eh not rly. Everyone knows bron was robbed of DPOY in 2013

[@maxiiimus2165]

​@@lucasphillips2177 that would only be one compared to MJs 9?

[@daleedwards889]

And still went home early😂

[@sidenote1459]

Finals MVP too?

[@javongogh4457]

You can tell how much they RESPECT each other. This will be lightning for ESPN

[@jamesnelson5618]

You mean Lighting Rod each Other With they're Takes.

[@TapsieTechKid]

Yeah and they're both brothers from similar backgrounds. Skip had the white savior complex in him and always made it personal when he doesn't have facts. Now he's scrambling for talent on his debate show lol not the same. I don't care how he staks it Rachel was good in ESPN and that's it the rest its just work to get paid

[@Black____]

For now... Just give it time...

[@bigsleepy9889]

It’s meh.

[@SO-5679]

Lol ESPN? This is Club Shay Shay, Shannon is making millions with it... I'm takin innnsane money

[@AverageVideoGameJoe]

Man this might be best version of this debate ever so refreshing

[@JC-hu6wg]

I love this. No bad blood, just a debate between two passionate supporters.

[@pfunk1992]

❤

[@FreedomFighter2112]

In the last 50 years, Career Résumé - Total Achievements: (Titles / MVPs / Finals MVPs / 1st All-NBA / 1st All-DEF / Scoring Titles/ All-Star MVPs) 1st: Jordan = 49 2nd: Kobe = 34 2nd: LeBron = 34 4th: Kareem = 31 5th: Duncan = 29 … You can debate 2nd-5th place but Jordan is so far ahead of everyone else…it’s not even close. Also the most amazing thing is that Jordan accomplished all this while playing in at least 5 years less than the other players … By the way, Curry has 13 Total Achievements in his career and Jokic has 7. That’s just to put things into perspective in the overall picture

[@Mt554.]

​@@FreedomFighter2112 your forgot stats, statwise lebron far ahead of kobe

[@Mt554.]

​​​@@FreedomFighter2112 and jordan accomplished this in far less time, cuz in terms of competitions, of this group, he by far had the weakest

[@pirota819]

​@marktaylor554 You must be a clown. You claim that Jordan's competition was weak but in the same sentence you argue that LeBron's stat was far better than Kobe when Kobe clearly faced tougher complication in the West than LeBron. Kobe also beat more teams above 500 than any other player in the game.

[@the_giggities]

I love how Shannon brings up Magic Johnson's age with Jordan's first title. Magic was 31. Dirk Nowitzki on the flip side was 32 going on 33 when Dallas, who was an older team too, beat Miami

[@2011hwalker]

Chicago was absolute trash squad when Chicago lost to the Pistons, a multiple championship team.

[@gdtiago1]

The Msvs in 2011 swept the Lakers, beat Spurs and OKC in the playoffs. They played tremendous defense and had lethal 3point shooters with Dirk playing great.

[@rgood1204]

Did Dirk have 9 years of going to the NBA finals on his treads? I love how y'all ignore the same Dallas team SWEPT Kobe Bryant's 2 time defending champions that same year in the playoffs.

[@cloudunderweather9554]

Pretty sure magic was 73 😂

[@DynoGreen313]

@@gdtiago1 and dirk was older than magic and lebron had a superteam and dirk was by himself and jj barea and jason terry schooled lebron all series long ... and lebron scored just 8 pts in one game and blew a 2-1 lead losing 3 straight after being heavily favored to win the ring

[@epimentel45]

Stephen A- “He beat Magic” Shay- “HE WAS 73!” That killed me honestly 😂

[@MentalStillness]

Let's get the facts straight. Yeah The Bulls were a beast of a team but that was a Lakers team that was injured. Kareem was out he might've been retired at that point, no James Worthy. Now if the Bulls played against a healthy Lakers team with an active Kareem at 38 years old we might to singing a different tune but it is what it is.

[@montebeene9142]

😂😂😂

[@ApasTalaz]

​@@MentalStillness if when but who where, we can do this all night long. If Arvydas Sabonis came to the league in 1985 as he was drafted we would've seen Clyde Drexler and prime Sabonis in 1990s final vs the Bulls and they might've killed Michael.

[@aking2330]

​@@MentalStillnessinjuries happen almost every finals. That's not a excuse

[@Ishbikes]

Smith rebutted nice though, “you didn’t say that when he was here though.”

[@marcusstanley96]

Shannon knew his argument died when the All-Star game got brought up lol

[@David-fh5bu]

Shannon with "Magic was 73!!" With the eyes big took me out!! 😂😂😂😂

[@gaylorpetro1964]

took me out as well 😂

[@MrSantee2000]

But in all reality he was only 32 lol

[@johnbach2380]

Magic was the MVP of the league in 1990. 🤣

[@swat686]

Someone was in the background laughing hard😂😂😂

[@Otto.93]

only 32? LMAO most of players at this times was to old what you mean@@MrSantee2000

[@marks1049]

Can't wait for this debate on First Take!

[@yo3rdtier128]

They need their own show separately. Nobody can out talk Shay-Shay not even Stephen A

[@The_0G_Chad]

We have seen this debate 10 billion times… you just saw the debate now. If people actually want to see this debate I question their sanity.

[@inphumusfraust995]

I've been waiting all of LeBron's career for this debate...

[@norvinzor]

Shannon is going against a Beast for this one! props to shannon taking the huge challenge

[@luattran6205]

If jordan could adapt today game why they say be saying lebron couldn't handle in jordan Era 😂 so lebron wouldn't adapt

[@twilliams7709]

This was one of the most enjoyable Jordan Lebron debates ever, super enjoyed this for sure.

[@YKBOOGIEEE]

Definitely agree 👏👏

[@latestoner]

Feel like I’m at the barber shop. My cut been done but I can’t leave just yet.😭😭

[@matthewwazbinski1489]

I love how Stephen right off the bat RESPECTS Shannons time as a player. He knows that was a tough part with skip, so he wants to prove he’s different

[@mandeepsuj1]

Lol he just said what skip said indirectly. Ever since the kwame incident sas has changed his tactics.

[@rexfeliciano]

I don’t like skip but skip has always called sharp “the hall of famer “…

[@kingdomdreams4]

Notice how Stephen was able to calm Shannon down a little with his reverse psychology by calling out how dramatic he is about the topic, knowing that would simmer him down so they could have a logical level headed discussion even tho Shannon will never be 100% logical on this topic bc he is too emotional over Lebron

[@ivanvalente4752]

The interview was great, guys! The intensity, solid points, etc. Way to go!

[@greenmountavenue4122]

It's like watching my favorite uncle on my father's side debating my favorite uncle on my mother's side, classic.

[@canditonoseastravieso]

Best comment for sure!!

[@Black____]

Y'all really need father's in y'all lives.

[@KenSherman]

So who's your all-time favorite uncle? Is that even up for debate? 🤣

[@Ejenkins814]

Magic was runner up to MVP when Mike beat him, while Tim Duncan was 37 years old when he beat lebron by the LARGEST finals defeat margin in HISTORY.

[@melvondrewhite2674]

LITERALLY , Nobody Says Anything About That Tho ! 😂

[@Loveyourselfguys123]

Not LeBrons fault he lost, Bron averaged 28 8 4 on 63% from the field and 52% from three, d wade averaged 14 3 2 on trash efficiencies and Bosh was solid but wasn't really a scoring threat, plus the Heats bench wasn't very good either 😂 so in conclusion bron showed up and no one else did

[@Ejenkins814]

@@Loveyourselfguys123 Lebon scored 65% of his points when they were down by 15 or more points. When the games were close, he didn't effect the game.

[@Loveyourselfguys123]

@@Ejenkins814 in my perspective that just shows me he's the only one who cared lol

[@rylandhager8998]

Tim Duncan got carried.. he wasn’t finals mvp Khalil Leonard was so you can’t say he got defeated by him.

[@stephencronin304]

This is gold. These two are peerless, love this conversation.

[@TheCre88tor]

5:37 - Shannon screaming "MAGIC WAS 73!!!" is the equivalent to the Coming to America line when Eddie Murphy's barbershop character said "JOE LOUIS WAS 76 YRS OLD WHEN THEY FOUGHT!" 😂😂😂😂

[@chazzt.k6576]

yes! lmaooo I caught that too it got me good

[@c.kizzee8961]

Magic was actually 32. Worthy was 30. Shannon is rewriting history. Sadly, this is the norm for lebron bootlickers.

[@chopdanovelist794]

😂😂😂

[@adrianneal5004]

Magic was 31-32 that year in 91.... Shannon reaching

[@illmaticeric]

That was great 🤙🏿🔥

[@wil1018]

An educated, informed, respectful debate about the GOATS. I feel fortunate to have seen both careers. Gonna start watching First Take again.

[@AjCastanon]

So who is your goat 🐐 of the two

[@TellenJones]

Shannon sounds like a LeShill again with these bogus arguments. 1) Jordan did run into Warriors 17/18 equivalents MANY TIMES. In 86 and 87 he ran into Celtics that had 4 starters in HOF. Then next 4 years he ran into Pistons that constantly had 3 HOFers in Thomas, Dumars and Rodman. That's 6 straight years Jordan ran into superb teams in playoffs. Only help Jordan had was Pippen and sometimes nothing. 2) You cannot say Jordan faced an old Magic Johnson in 91 finals and then give Lebron a pass in 2011, 2013 and 2014. What's the age of Norwitzki, Duncan and Ginobili during those finals? That's a shill argument. Jordan at least won in 91. Lebron OTOH nearly went 0-3 during those 3 finals if not for Ray Allen saving his legacy. Lebron's 2014 loss to ol' Duncan was so bad he set NBA final record on losing margin per game. The only all star teammate Jordan ever had was Pippen, and that's nuf for Jordan to win 6 rings in 2 three-peats manner. Lebron OTOH needed 5 all stars in Irvine, Love, Bosh, DWade and Brow to only produce 4. Lebron needed more help and yet produced less rings than Jordan. He clearly is not as good. In fact, why do we even rank Lebron at #2? Kareem, Magic, Kobe and Duncan all won more. Lebron is not even top 5.

[@B1Kobe0824]

Only that Lebron is no G.O.A.T. Great player yes but G.O.A.T......No!

[@lolipopi503]

​​@@B1Kobe0824yea, lebron cant even win defensive accolades with scoring titles in the single season..

[@pmontyjaaaymes488]

Why i like club shay shay. You get lengthy debates or conversations. To time limited on First Take for this.

[@webleedgreen84]

Stephen A. says "Jordan is 6-0 in yhe Finals.." Unc be like "He ain't playin nobodyyyyy.." Unc 5 minutes later "I'm not tryna take nuthin away from Jordan!" All over the place.. EMOTIONAL!

[@bethsebian9324]

I could watch this ALL DAY😂 I wish they could be at my thanksgiving table

[@jonsmoke9195]

Me to 💯

[@baritonebroker]

Arguing if it’s stuffing or dressing….

[@YoutubingSince2004]

@@baritonebroker”it was touching the turkey, neva went in it! NEVA!!!”

[@mikeskrew3968]

Saying Jordan didn't play anybody is disrespectful to the top 75 players that he beat to win those championships.

[@Daddy_Savage23]

Which one he beat in the NBA FINALS not the era

[@Ace-vf2uf]

Exactly

[@mattsell2361]

So which one is as good as the spurs dynasty or the warriors dynasty? That’s no one

[@patcisz3474]

​@@mattsell2361Jordan was the dynasty. Lebron never was

[@mattsell2361]

@@patcisz3474 tell me was the Chicago bulls a stacked team with a lot of good players or did Jordan carry the team to a championship every year

[@3coursethoughts448]

This is the crossover we always needed. Thanks Skip 🙏

[@niketrip]

Love the back and forth... I'm a Jordan fan myself...

[@GoTazR]

This show bout to be the definition of “just because you’re louder doesn’t mean you’re right”.

[@nitamitch5592]

😂😂😂FACTS!

[@erichemsley8706]

Yes, I really don't want to see Shannon on First Take. I'm tired of the yelling as it is

[@pokiis3of10]

@@erichemsley8706bro the other niqqa known for his yelling

[@Wizzlejames875]

Who else is excited for Monday morning first take??

[@oneluv72]

✋🏾✋🏾✋🏾✋🏾👋🏾👋🏾🤚🏾🖐🏽

[@kaylonthekidrs079]

Especially when it is on Labor Day too

[@chrisbanks7830]

Bruh, I really can't wait 😅

[@harborboi]

*Tuesday

[@mrgreekgm754]

@@harborboi Are you confused?

[@jeffreypridemore100]

Shannon coming to ESPN has been a blessing to my television. These two already have a ton of chemistry, and the bromance is pretty wholesome

[@Miggymyniggy]

A 13:47 min conversation, and that last “NO” killed me 😂

[@muntasircooper2782]

The fact that Shannon makes Stephen A. look like the calm one is crazy lol

[@SemajRaff]

This is a great debate because they were able to acknowledge each others points that went against their own.

[@jonathanfrancis7608]

Stephen a will always hold 2011 against lebron,but will never mention that bron was the most insanely scrutinized athlete on the planet at the time and that's been the case throughout his career. He joined a new team where d wade was the star and it took him a year and a bad series to adapt, that's about it. He made 8 finals in the following 9 years and wins with 3 different teams! Stop the agenda and speak the facts ffs

[@fledgendbeats4581]

@@jonathanfrancis7608 Jordan had a whole book written about how shifty he was to people.....definitely the most scrutinized athlete of his time.....for every point a LeBron fan makes there's facts to smack it down..

[@jonathanfrancis7608]

Jordan couldn't even get past the first round in his early years and that was before the nba expanded and was basically an all American league. Conveniently leaving out Jordan's failures and highlighting Brons bad moments is a silly way to go about it.

[@Chetanp1445]

@@jonathanfrancis7608on the contrary, Stephen A defends lebron more than most, people just think hes a lebron hater because when he does go against lebron people make a big deal about it

[@504Trey]

Skio is wayyy better

[@arbeanbean]

Greatest warm up of all time! 😂😂😂

[@290kidd5]

This was so dope. We need more of this 🚫🧢

[@arthursalma]

"MAGIC WAS 73" I fell off my chair lmao🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@ramoduff9399]

I can tell that Lebron and Jordan are bursting with laughter on this continuious debate about them.

[@jada8047]

🐐 👑 Ha Ha

[@antoniochasten3192]

At least Jordan is 'cause he knows, like a lot of us sane individuals knows, this ain't even a debate. It never was and never will be.

[@NwoFresh]

Jordan laughing Lebron is crying

[@jimsim8736]

@@NwoFreshYou beat me to it by 1 minute, word for word that was going to be my reply lol

[@Nettamorphosis]

Shid, Jordan taking it personally.

[@dellcoates6374]

Skip fighting the air rn 😆 these two are magical together. The ability to debate and not be overbearing is amazing.

[@atlantabirdgang]

it's like a new girlfriend....everything is great in the initial phase, but as time goes on, things start to change

[@SpankyyNinja]

Not overbearing??? You mean just equally INSANELY OVERBEARING right?

[@KenSherman]

SAS speaking about a tsunami then starts the debate while Shannon wipes his forehead in preparation was epic. 🤣

[@alawishes1733]

These two knuckleheads need their own show together. They’re excellent. It’s a perfect relationship.

[@brownpride1179]

I still think Brooks debating with Shannon is better.

[@qmann1548]

Stephen A is a master at making you agree even when you disagree “You would know this better than me” 😂😂😂

[@Bobaluga9]

Feeding into Shannon's ego works everytime 😅😅😅

[@AllthingsElite]

Nope you just speaking factz on this one

[@JeromeyRome90]

Dominant victory by Stephen A 😂

[@raymundturner1140]

Shannon did good debating Stephen A

[@koasizmworld1927]

SAS handled Shay big time, that was embarrassing for Shay

[@mattg6390]

To be fair, Shay never really had a chance. He’s obviously on the wrong side of this debate. Outside of longevity, everything is in MJ’s favor

[@PgLangGang]

​@@mattg6390Facts

[@rashad500]

easily

[@cyrus2546]

Stephen A was 100% right on his points. Straight facts, no Shannon style emotive nonsense.

[@thomaspremeparsons9390]

I’m a LeBron fan, but I can’t lie, Steven A. won that argument. 🤦🏾‍♂️😔

[@BrothersVengeance]

No he didn't. Stephen A is just a much better talker and journalist. That's it!!

[@breal6592]

No he didn’t 😂 all he said was 6-0…. And that’s a team accomplishment

[@SouthJerzVillains]

@@breal6592more finals mvps more mvps more scoring titles more dpoys more 1st team all defense none of those are team accomplishments tho lmao

[@hex3639]

My question is why do people talk about 6-0 but never mention how many times he didn't even make it to the finals mfs avoid it like the plague.

[@jackjax7921]

@@SouthJerzVillains On a weak era.

[@johndarius18]

Shannon is in over his head with the Goat debate 😂

[@brandonthomas4175]

No he ain't 😂

[@nwilliams6768]

You just gotta listen to Shannon when he talks

[@mduzzzy4275]

Shannon Sharpe always has tp talk over people when he's having this debate, he's definitely in over his head 😂

[@JoeBangaz215]

Naw just wait until he get on first take Stephen A don’t get what he just did

[@SS-lz6cb]

Exactly. Unc be out of bounds on many things. Talking about Noah being drunk and still getting the ark. Bruh, he had the ark year(s) BEFORE that, and was literally roofied… he did not choose to be drunk 🤦‍♂️ Facts n sequence Unc. They give anyone these days a mic

[@DHILLA-yz4rx]

I am 27 years old. This debate has been going on since I was about 12. Let that sink in.

[@brandonhagin]

Yeah when we was 12 it was kobe vs LeBron we all knew Jordan was the goat.

[@kashteller7466]

@@brandonhagin Facts 😂

[@Godaerentalos]

The conversation really amped up after 2016. That’s when Bron and Jordan stans became insufferable and as a by product, NBA discourse as a whole suffered tremendously.

[@sirhoopalot1125]

@@brandonhaginthe fact Lebron never met Kobe in the Finals says everything

[@mikemurray8562]

Kobe was better then lebron from 2004-2011

[@patrickcraft7070]

People say LeBron better than Kobe, Kobe is the closest thing to Michael Jordan, I'll ever see

[@ToosieSossa]

I don’t understand how people say this shii but Kobe better than all players

[@pyropug0188]

Lebron is better than kobe

[@ziegfeld4131]

@@pyropug0188he’s not even in the same league as Kobe lebron is barely top 5

[@pyropug0188]

@@ziegfeld4131 LeBron does everything better than Kobe besides mid range, he’s better than whoever your goat is and u don’t know ball if u don’t think bron is top 2

[@RL-ww5ev]

​@@pyropug0188 lol kobe shot 45% from the field for his career. He's nowhere near LeBron

[@cmoneytheman]

A dream debate we always wanted from these 2

[@williambrown8587]

Amen!!!!!!!

[@actualcollegegrad]

And there weren't any cheap shots. Just good debate.

[@504Trey]

Skip is wayyy better

[@johnhancock1362]

@@actualcollegegradStephen a smith was smooth with the compliment to Unc about being one of the goats.. meanwhile, skip went out of his way to disrespect Shae in favor of getting on his knees for Brady. I’m glad Shae is doing his own thing.

[@TheDESTROYRR95]

@@johnhancock1362 skip takes things personal and talks through his emotions. SAS doesn’t do that. thats why SAS has no problem agreeing with UNC and pay homage to the legendary player he is sitting across from.

[@christianasmond888]

Big up to Stephen A Smith for getting Shannon Sharpe on first take. This will be a great collaboration. I'm definitely tuning in.

[@FreedomFighter2112]

In the last 50 years, Career Résumé - Total Achievements: (Titles / MVPs / Finals MVPs / 1st All-NBA / 1st All-DEF / Scoring Titles/ All-Star MVPs) 1st: Jordan = 49 2nd: Kobe = 34 2nd: LeBron = 34 4th: Kareem = 31 5th: Duncan = 29 … You can debate 2nd-5th place but Jordan is so far ahead of everyone else…it’s not even close. Also the most amazing thing is that Jordan accomplished all this while playing in at least 5 years less than the other players … By the way, Curry has 13 Total Achievements in his career and Jokic has 7. That’s just to put things into perspective in the overall picture

[@BlameNate]

He's going to be an after thought on that roster. He should've stayed on Undisputed

[@KodakBlacksBrain]

@@FreedomFighter2112all star mvp is not a real accolade. Nobody gives af about all star games and they’ve always had loose defense and has rarely ever been competitive from start to finish like it would in a real game.

[@autonomouspilgrimage6137]

@@KodakBlacksBrain what about these accolades… Jordan’s accomplishments -6 championships -6 NBA finals MVP -4 regular season and finals MVP in the same season -rookie of the year and all star in the same season. -86’-87’ season he became the first player to reach 3,000 points since Wilt Chamberlain in only his second season in the NBA. -10 time NBA scoring champ -Highest Career scoring average 30.1 -Highest career playoff PPG 33.4 -9x all NBA and DPOY winner -DPOY and scoring champion in the same year (only player to do this) -Highest career (PER) player efficiency rating career 28.0 -Played in 9 championships NCAA, Olympics, and NBA as the team leader and never lost. -Never lost 3 games in a row over an 8 year stretch, playing all 82 games 9 seasons of his 15 year career -Highest PPG average in a playoff series all time 43.7 -Highest PPG in a finals series 41 PPG -From 1991-1998 he never lost more than two games in a row -The only player to lead a team to 6 chips in 8 years span -Only player to win scoring title, regular season MVP, NBA championship, finals MVP, and make first team all defense all in the same season and Jordan did it 4x -Player with most 40 and 50 point games -5 playoff series with of 40+ PPG. No one in the modern era has one and no one ever has had more than one. -Won championships with 6 of the top 10 lowest scoring supporting casts in history of championship winning teams, including the top 2 all time. -Averaged more assists in his first finals (11.4) then Lebron averaged in any of his finals -MVP, scoring champ, DPOY, 1st team all NBA, and dunk contest winner all in the same season. -Jordan has the all time record for most block shots by a guard (893) -Jordan’s 131 blocked shots in a single 82 game season is the most ever recorded by a guard -Jordan is the only player ever with 200 blocks and 100 steals on a season and he did 2x -Jordan holds the record for most all NBA defense first team selections with 9 -Jordan has the second most steal titles in NBA history with 3. -there are 4 players that hold records for most ppg avg against a franchise. Jordan holds the record for most ppg avg against 16 different franchises….second place is Chamberlain with 6

[@m74d3]

​@@KodakBlacksBrain​you do realize that's largely irrelevant to the point because deducting the all star MVPs doesn't really change anything, right? It would look like this without all star Mvps: 1. Jordan - 46 2. Lebron 31 3. Kobe - 30 4. Kareem - 31 5. Duncan - 28 Basically exactly the same, with Jordan 15pts above 2nd place. The only thing that really changes is Lebron moves one point ahead of Kobe for 2nd rather than being tied.

[@Fonthandler]

Shannon still screaming to get his point across and now Stephen A is the calm and collected Skip. 😂😂

[@saraiday1646]

True

[@stevengabriel8688]

“MAGIC WAS 73!” 😂😂😂

[@dr.grinchh]

Shannon Is The Debate Partner SAS Always Wanted 😂😂

[@jonthomson9262]

Shannon lost this 1.

[@dr.grinchh]

@@jonthomson9262 He’ll Lose Many More 😂

[@nicholascole2613]

​@@jonthomson9262 The fact they met in the middle more than they butt heads. You're missing the point by not acknowledging that..

[@jonthomson9262]

@@nicholascole2613 I repeat, Shannon and LeBron held that L. Jordan simply has a clearly better case than LeBron. It's not even that close. Lol 😂

[@jonthomson9262]

@@dr.grinchh lol 😂.......I give LeBron fans L's ALL the time.......they just keep losing. But some of them are getting more and more desperate/creative in their arguments. The creativity is mildly impressive, but when you have a very strong case,creativity is not needed. I dispose of them too. Lol 😂 😂 😂 😂

[@MrQuincyisawesome]

I wouldn't call this a "heated" debate.. I would say this is a great debate amongst good friends aka brothers. Those who have had sports debates can relate

[@kenesealo7982]

How are they brothers

[@CrackerBarrelkid555]

Shannon never really in a heated debate he just funny

[@ragingheat98]

@@kenesealo7982 youre white

[@kenesealo7982]

@@ragingheat98 lmao your pathetic if you think there “brothers”. They had 2 episodes together and scrubs like you think they have a brotherly bond. Pathetic 😂

[@lexwilliams3294]

@@ragingheat98😂😂😂😂

[@Theturthwill]

“ I have LeBron as a second best player and people think that’s disrespectful “ Shannon “it is” 😂💀

[@ARmirzaful]

Lol, but Magic and Kobe in their primes, they would give Lebron a solid battle. I don't know if they would win but I know Kobe would kill Lebron in crunch time defensively. It's tough for Lebron one on one in crunch time.

[@zene8001]

@@ARmirzafulwe’ll that’s why it’s a team game we not taking one on one if that’s the case I’m taking Shaq over anyone

[@ChillyBraden]

Since when did that EXACT quote happen? 😒

[@misganwchekole2160]

​@@zene8001Shaq over Kareem Abdul jabar Hakeem and Wilt? Seriously?

[@DanteBeChillen]

The entire argument is flawed because if its not “disrespectful” being number #2 he should be fine with jordan there.

[@justinallen1092]

Shannon is a grown man that really just said Bron is the GOAT "because"

[@EllieVelli]

Shannon doesn’t realize ESPN is going to be more of a challenge because his debate partner this time around isn’t delusional and actually knows how to make solid points.

[@keithc1475]

Exactly!

[@ericreid8111]

But the fact remains you can still debate your argument for lebron even if sas has more jordan facts, which he doesnt. Skip has all his jordan facts straight. He just is too harsh on bron

[@matrixfan23]

Yea SAS is gonna elevate Unc game, this is a good debate

[@davidsonfils-aime6876]

Yeah Shannon still has that skip effect. He needs to realize he doesn’t have to scream anymore to make his point. Because look how SAS checked him im the beginning and than called him emotional

[@MonkeyDLuffy-lx1yc]

Stephen A can be just as delusional. He says curry is better than magic and when the knicks are invovled hes def delusional 😂

[@Mewfew22]

Everything Stephen A said is eye opening he definitely won this debate

[@Cobijohnson-r2k]

Lebron the goat

[@desanihill8180]

He was definitely more prepared for this discussion 😂😂😂💯💯💯

[@leviwallace9647]

@@Cobijohnson-r2kno, no he isnt

[@mauricelouis9]

Stephen A is a basketball guy

[@bigslyce717]

It’s emotion!

[@mrreddington777]

What I love is that they can debate and not make it personal

[@gilcruz7869]

Man unc this was an awesome interview 👏

[@sportsunhinged]

This is about to be the greatest show in sports. “Magic was 73”😂

[@nesumhlanga8657]

I caught that. MAGIC WAS 73😂😂

[@michaels_madness]

I'm sure you know this Unc, but you're the only reason a ton of us are willing to watch espn again. You are bringing them back!

[@JMO50]

Shut Up Bro

[@SWTmel]

Same!

[@qborn]

still not watching until malika andrews is gone

[@basedmek]

Yeah I haven’t watched first take this consistently in about 5 years. Now I’m back bc of Shannon 😂

[@ifanhung2546]

"Didn't hear you say that when Magic was here" had me rolling🤣

[@bmo7454]

5:40 “MAGIC WAS 73!!” 🤣🤣🤣😂😂😂

[@DOC_DARK1985]

Lmao bro I just died lmao.

[@breebree3457]

A debate where both parties are respectful and acknowledges the others arguments. No condescending remarks, no disrespect. I’m gonna miss the old undisputed but I’m glad unk has a respectful opponent. EDIT: this is my opinion and that’s fine if you don’t agree, just scroll along. I will not be replying to anyone else so you will be talking to yourself.

[@dominiqueanderson7929]

They have good chemistry Shannon gone have to be there twice a week

[@FastLane12345]

I mean if you was in a debate with the same partner for 6 years straight . Of course there is gonna be some arguments that goes overboard

[@Prince.Prince1999]

U say it as if Shannon didn't do everything you just said to Skip. Shannon is no angel!

[@breebree3457]

@@Prince.Prince1999 So Shannon told Skip that being an NFL champion don’t matter? He didn’t degrade Shannon’s career and brag about how Brady was better, lasted longer in the NFL, and literally tell Shannon that he was jealous of Tom Brady? There’s nothing that Shannon has said that was as degrading and disrespectful as that. You don’t have to agree with my opinion, but at least have a valid argument. I could care less what you think, my like count shows that a lot of people agree with me, even if you don’t. Enjoy your night.

[@adripos]

This is going to fall apart in due time. You will see

[@MRWebb1991]

I can already see the greatness of these two

[@SealAngel]

This is so sweet....Someone has to set Shannon straight and Stephen A is just the man to do it.

[@kendrickpfaff4805]

i agree, SAS aint no skip he’s coming for the neck

[@popeyebogey209]

No he isn't

[@michaeld.lancaster4953]

If anybody can it will be Stephen A Smith but it might be too late for Shannon Sharpe

[@SanjaeBascoe]

You done lost yuh mind 😂

[@rfoster8]

It seemed like Shannon was still in interviewer mode and wasn’t really debating. I bet on first take, there will be a real debate.

[@danieldavid9990]

The reaction and action for this 2 guys are so good, interesting, informative, and very funny. 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@ltrigga219]

Wow, one of the few times I’m 100% with Stephen A

[@sammadanat3396]

Was gonna like this comment but I wanted to keep it at 23 ;)

[@sachasoorma]

Stephen A. only ever been right once in his life... last week when he apologised after the track star brother schooled him about World and local champion status... but anyways, whut was you doin at them high-schools Stephen...?

[@FreedomFighter2112]

In the last 50 years, Career Résumé - Total Achievements: (Titles / MVPs / Finals MVPs / 1st All-NBA / 1st All-DEF / Scoring Titles/ All-Star MVPs) 1st: Jordan = 49 2nd: Kobe = 34 2nd: LeBron = 34 4th: Kareem = 31 5th: Duncan = 29 … You can debate 2nd-5th place but Jordan is so far ahead of everyone else…it’s not even close. Also the most amazing thing is that Jordan accomplished all this while playing in at least 5 years less than the other players … By the way, Curry has 13 Total Achievements in his career and Jokic has 7. That’s just to put things into perspective in the overall picture

[@user-hd1rk7lq7o]

@@sachasoormaonly ever been right once in his life ? lmao someone should ban you from havin opinions.

[@sachasoorma]

@@user-hd1rk7lq7o yeah... then we can all be Stephen A. disciples like you 🫣💀

[@Dec4AllTimeAlways]

Can't wait to hear more about this "debate" on Monday and several more years after that.

[@amd1273]

Have fun, I'll be watching a real debate show on undisputed

[@endangeredspecies8441]

Sad part is this hasn’t been a debate since 2011 lol everything lebron has done since then was to fight for 2-10 position 🤷‍♂️

[@devaughnmcleod3983]

Is Shannon on first take Monday ?

[@Shockkings0714]

@@endangeredspecies8441Delusional. One bad finals doesn’t harm a player

[@darkdude83]

This should remind you of the barbershop argument in “Coming To America”. “MAGIC WAS 73!”🤣🤣🤣

[@Mr.Majestic77]

Having LeBron James ahead of Bill Russell, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar, Magic Johnson, Wilt Chamberlain, Larry Bird and even Kobe Bryant should be criminal.

[@IM_HIMATh]

Huh you out yo dam mind

[@potayto_potahto732]

im sure mrmajestic77 knows more about basketball than those whose literal job it is to understand the game, been watching it their whole lives, people who were literally in the nba and some of the greatest players ever

[@johnmckenzie5028]

Blinded by nostalgia

[@miketrogan]

i have lebron number 6 behind Kobe

[@TyOnSum]

Ragebait

[@RobBeatdownBrown]

This is one of the best back n’forths on the internets 😀 Stephen A is a stats encyclopedia always prepared to rumble 👊🏽

[@pablobradley9514]

So true

[@stevetrevino5346]

Emotions vs Facts . Truth. Love it !!!

[@derekcoleman306]

"They accused Noah of drunkeness, God still gave him the arch." Shannon Sharpe 😂😂

[@KayGee247]

You can hear the staff laughing in the background 😂

[@ericchips9314]

The captions at the intro was like FML and almost quit! 🤣

[@robertbrown9785]

"SIX finals losses!" lol I love the chemistry between these two

[@fahblizza]

What hurts Lebron case for GOAT status is we all still remember the 2011 meltdown against Dallas in his prime. MJ's prime was 6-0 in the Finals with no choking performances in sight.

[@JustinJ]

Jorgamble couldn't get past the 1st round until Pippen came. Respectfully.

[@justinschmelzel8806]

​@@JustinJwhile dropping 60 points against the boston celtics with 5 hall of famers. And there were only 2 fulls years before scottie came and one of them was his rookie year. He didn't choke in those games, just cant beat an entire championship team by himself, lebron never did so either.

[@fullygaza8909]

Can’t be the goat if you only been to 6 finals. What happened to the rest of the years he played

[@TheIInWin]

​​​@@fullygaza8909by your logic Magic Johnson is the GOAT - 9 finals with 5 titles in 13 seasons...vs Lebron with 10 finals and 4 titles in 20 seasons lmao. Magic won more than Lebron in fewer seasons.

[@fahblizza]

@@JustinJ there's literally no argument you can make that can trump the 2011 choke job or the fact that he had to run to Wade's team to win a ring...respectfully.

[@alexchopper7997]

I don’t always agree with Stephen A Smith, but he killed it in this debate with knowledge, facts, and common sense.

[@jacobshepherd1387]

The culture needed this debate the debate of a lifetime

[@koberino4872]

SAS took it easy on Bron, didn’t mention the flopping, team stacking, ship jumping, deferring in crunch time, faking injuries, etc..

[@DarkwingShadow]

Shannon is clearly all emotion during this debate and it definitely shows

[@mauricerhodes1756]

“What if he wins at 39?” “So, wouldn’t replace Jordan”...... right only 1 guy shows complete bias and emotion.....

[@GoGetYourShinebox]

Of course he is. He’s on the losing side of the argument 😂

[@mauricerhodes1756]

@@GoGetYourShinebox says the guy who’s never played……

[@GoGetYourShinebox]

@@mauricerhodes1756 Don’t get emotional now 😂😂

[@mauricerhodes1756]

@@GoGetYourShinebox nothing emotional about the truth correct?

[@ahmadsyaa6138]

Imagine If they added one Kobe fan into that debate, it would be even more chaotic as it ready was hahaha

[@SimplyAJ24]

no it wouldn’t because both of them have him 3

[@jeremytucker8853]

Thing is nobody believes Kobe is goat.

[@vulcanraven9701]

Kobe wasnt even better than Shaq.

[@ahmadsyaa6138]

@@jeremytucker8853 I'm pretty sure there's a at least some, I mean after what he had done on & off the court especially his mentality & his work ethic

[@willn8664]

Also add in a Wilt Chamberlain fan.......

[@lbtn1]

Awesome debate, both guys very passionate but totally respectful of one another!!

[@LeetraviusMcKay-q6m]

“I didn’t hear you say that when Magic was here” 😂😂😂

[@timgreen7038]

I LOVE hearing a national journalist speaking FACTS about how my Mavericks took LeBron and the Heat's whole cookies and the jar in 2011. A thing of beauty!!!

[@rgood1204]

You know that Lebron is so great he is the only one that enters the GOAT debate. In 20 years when all the old folks kick it, the story of the true goat will be written. GOAT James. The only 40, 10 and 10 player in NBA history.

[@MrDede2011]

Lol they had JJ barea locking him up in the post 🤣

[@timothywebb8354]

“The whole cookies and the jar”( WELL SAID ) Lol

[@rgood1204]

@@MrDede2011 - you people can't even get that in order. SAS said it was someone else. I know Lebron dragged Boobie Gibson to the finals at 22 while Jordan was getting swept in the first round.

[@karlo9572]

@@rgood1204You mean the finals against the Spurs? He played 41-41 Wizards without Gilbert arenas. 41-41 Nets then the Pistons. Then in the finals he got swept. Dude scored 24 ppg on 35% shooting that is atrocious. Then he lest to Dwight Howard the year after. Since then it’s super team after superteam. Final loss after final loss. Dude got clamped up by a 5 foot 9 guard in JJ Barea. He is nowhere close to be the goat with all those awful performances on th me biggest stage

[@ishmone21]

I've been waiting for Stephen A and Shannon to finally chop it up in debates!!!! I love it, but Stephen A is right on this debate!!!! Get em Stephen A!!!!🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@eddiewilson3724]

Shannon Sharpe has been on first take back in like 2013 with srephen a and skip its should be still on you tube

[@waryaawariiri1812]

You call this a debate? Yelling as a retort is your kind of debate? This is arguing for the sake of yelling.

[@lakeshowbron4747]

​@@waryaawariiri1812cry 😂😂😂

[@LeSteeler]

Shannon won

[@YKBOOGIEEE]

Yeah I loved every bit of their debate but Stephen A. was cooking Shay with undeniable facts✊🏾❣️

[@frankieb-ku3hq]

that little noise shae makes at 0:37 got me 🤣🤣

[@professorb3065]

The reasons Michael jordan never played a monster like golden state in the finals is because the bulls were the monsters in those finals lol

[@mattsell2361]

So if his team was so stacked then his rings shouldn’t matter right cause they were easy. If pippen Harper and Rodman were preventing guys from scoring then of course they won. The whole point is that people say the kd warrior rings don’t count cause they were too stacked and it was unfair yet Jordan fans claim the bulls were even more stacked and their rings are more important. Jordan fans are delusional

[@marcodraven9778]

Would a player be on a team that beat the juggernaut once for a CHIP or be the Juggernaut 6x in two 3 peats? 🤔

[@NarutoManiac300]

​@@mattsell2361That would be a cute argument if Jordan hadn't won 3 rings before Rodman got there 😂 and when he left bulls were a second round exit. Plus they needed Rodman to get past Orlando and possibly Houston. Golden state had the cavs up 3-1 they did not need KD.

[@getlivero]

The league was trash then

[@professorb3065]

@@mattsell2361 your argument is mute because the golden state warriors were already a very good team before Kevin Durant came along. He came in a and made the team over powdered. That would be akin to the 96 bulls adding someone like a Patrick Ewing to the team.

[@J0SHOFFICIAL]

I agree with Steven A on this one 💯

[@LeSteeler]

Nah

[@mattg6390]

Yah

[@kingdavid1828]

@@LeSteelerur emotional bout Bron like shannon

[@brotherbreezy]

So happy to see this two going at it, looking forward to seeing Unc Shay on First Take soon. Can’t wait for the NBA season to start 🙌🏽

[@oyindamolagideonolarewaju418]

'6:44'. "Right now, you are getting called for passing gas" 😂😂

[@derrickirie2011]

Shannon loosing this argument by many miles 😂😂😂😂

[@shalomandre2876]

Man, they need a show together! They did such a great job!

[@peter_acobes]

They have one. First take🎉🎉🎉

[@iamfree5981]

Bruh… did you not get the Memo?? 😂😂😂😂

[@stephonmorris132]

😂😂😂😂

[@hangarnut5660]

I'm just glad I lived in this Era to not only see these guys they speak about play ball, but this debate between these two just makes me small like a kid surrounded by gifts on Christmas day.

[@Mikedwalker]

You know the thing I love about these two, the intensity is coming from both sides equally. I like that. Sometime I disagree with one or the other and sometimes I disagree with both! But I like the interaction. It’s good for sports talk.