Southeast Asia's Booming Vaping Industry: Should We Be Worried? | Undercover Asia

Initially conceived as a way for smokers to kick the habit, vaping has since undergone a remarkable evolution in Southeast Asia. It is now a thriving cultural phenomenon, with trendy vape cafes, massive trade shows, competitive tournaments, and a burgeoning online and offline community.
But amidst the glitz and glamour lies great controversy. Even as vaping continues to be promoted as the solution to the global tobacco crisis, public health experts warn that vaping could create a new health crisis of its own, especially with high levels of underage use.
Undercover Asia investigates: Why has vaping gained such popularity among youths? How effective is it as a smoking cessation aid? What aren’t vape companies telling us? And could vaping act as a gateway drug into even more dangerous substance abuse?
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[@percycat213]

As a former smoker who quit after 10 years of smoking, i can never judge those who can't quit because i know it is a very hard addiction to get rid of, and it often is more psychological than physical addiction. The only thing that made me quit cold turkey was wanting to start a family.

[@Louie.Oxford]

good cat

[@TpDgreat]

my dad has the same reason as yours, he just stop smoking,,no limiting how much cigarettes per day,,just decided to stop right away, for some it can be difficult for the lack of very important reason but sometimes if u decide to stop just stop,,im proud of my dad

[@fishingdad88]

That's right mental addiction is real. Physical addiction is not

[@poyax.]

I stopped because of what I felt inside my body that I could no longer take, especially that last day of pain. 7 months now and still afraid of smoking.

[@TpDgreat]

@@poyax. cant imagine the pain,,but im glad you stopped, did u already visit a doctor?

[@angietunstall2555]

I used vaping to get off cigarettes. Once I could see the amount of money I was saving, that proved a great incentive to stop inhaling altogether. I could see the cost of vapes increasing the more popular they became. Having been caught in one expensive addiction, I was not prepared to get on another. I've been stopped for over 3 years now. 😊

[@jw2473]

Omg same. I dont smoke or vape anymore. Both are expensive!

[@ZenZone_Soundscapes]

How hard was it to quit? Congrats on quitting!

[@lillkloniis]

Good job :)

[@fansizhe9997]

Proud of you guys who are able to quit smoking!!👍👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻🙏🙏🙏😍😍

[@zZiL341yRj736]

I stop smoking cigarettes after I found crack, it's way better now.

[@earh0xable]

I was a heavy smoker for almost 35 years, and tried quitting many times. I was VERY skeptical about e-cigarettes when they first appeared, but studied impartial government and university studies as they emerged. Many years later I finally tried the switch to vaping after being satisfied with study results that while not HARMLESS, they are definitely less harmful, and I have been cigarette free for 3+ years now. While it may be anecdotal, I feel so much better now, I’m no longer short of breath, I sleep and eat better. I started at 12mg nic, now down to 3mg, and will stop totally eventually. I can absolutely say that without vapes I would still be smoking. All that said, it is something that needs to be regulated, as we’ve seen time and again how well prohibition works with any substance.

[@yeezywesty3651]

I'm down to 3mg too. ten years of smoking...I was able to start exercising again only days after quitting cigarettes, something I couldn't do for ten years...i couldn't breathe.. so thankful for rebuildable vapes.

[@-BEASTOR-]

Same, i Smoke a e-sig for more then 10 years now and are now on 0mg nicotine. I can leave it for more then 6 hours and not even thinking about it. SO yea it sure helps to stop. Also my heart problems are gone. had some serieus heart problems when i smoked regular sigaret. People just need to stop the overly use of the e-sig, like exhale massive clouds. like why? just smoke normal lol. Also, burn on a normal temperature like 30/40 watts

[@charliewecker]

Just go one week. You'll be completely chemically free of nicotine. I found it took me about 3 months to stop having my psychological cravings. Had to change some morning and meal rituals. I replaced smoking with drinking puer tea. I found in the beginning I felt like I had a hole I couldn't fill. So I was eating more sweets. Slowly I realized what I was doing and after switching to tea I have absolutely no desire to smoke or vape. It's been almost two years now. I did find that I now look down on smokers and capers. I don't know what that's all about. Some kind of strange prejudice that I developed. Even after acknowledging it I still can't help but be grossed out by nicotine addicts. Particularly smokers. I can't explain it, but it's where I'm currently at. Anyway, I'm telling you. If you can suffer through just one week. Then just keep challenging yourself to go one more day. Eventually you'll be free. You'll also have way more money in your pocket at the end of the year.

[@srums7111]

How did you get through work days? Thats my toughest one right now as that smoke break gets me through the day @@charliewecker

[@Defort-jd8xe]

Marlboro LOVES you.

[@littleswansplaygrownd6817]

vaping's golden rues: -if you smoke, start to vape and quit both eventually -if you don't smoke, don't vape. -if you're underage. don't do any of them

[@brendan9853]

Golden rules -Never vape -Never smoke simple.

[@marleypsear]

@@brendan9853 those are good rules but once someone has got hooked you cant 'unvape' or 'unsmoke' ???

[@zyzkk]

@@marleypsear The point is you’d never feel addiction or shitty feelings from quitting, if you had never done them in the first place. Nicotine is a lifeless object with no power. Vapes are lifeless objects with no power. Until a human picks it up and vapes it. Everyone can overcome it I believe humans have the strength to do anything they put their minds to.

[@ChrystaLarae]

it’s too easy to get underage i’m 18 and started when i was 12 turning 13

[@trossbossinit]

@@ChrystaLarae sounds like the path my buddy Steve took. Stealing his Mom's cigs at 12, now he's 38 with severe breathing problems and wishes he never smoked. That could be you, only 20 years to go! 😬

[@A.CMc1997]

Vaping went from helping smokers quit nicotine, to introducing the youth to nicotine at a drop of a hat. This is why it should have been regulated just like cigarettes. We failed as a society to forsee it. 🤷🤦

[@lymphy12]

You failed raising your kids and now you blame regulations for your shortcomings.

[@markstuart1053]

More like the gov thought that it is something they couldn't impose tax on

[@themusicgaragetmg2330]

nah... That is the propaganda they sold to the sheep... Baaaa...

[@daywzy]

when profits are part of the equation, politics will do whatever it can to not restrict it.

[@billyjoshchew7575]

Vape contains high Nicotine

[@11lvr11]

For me vape was much worse than cigarettes. I didn't really feel bad after smoking cigarettes (though i acknowledge the long term risks of it),only a bit faster heart rate, but after i had been vaping for one day i started feeling heaviness in my lungs and it was hard to breathe, like it was full of liquid. Im quitting cigarettes too now by using old school method, caramels😂(sugar free in my case). Been smoke free for a few weeks already.

[@e-shark]

Of course it's a problem when Singapore can't profit off the taxes. But smoking, oh let's that continue.

[@thespacejedi]

Obviously vape can be taxed, anything can be taxed lmao.

[@thespacejedi]

The documentary also mentions many other countries, a lil sus that you singled us out 😂

[@93hothead]

​@@thespacejedithis is how people start fires in society blaming everything on the govt

[@shawndj1369]

Brehh,they can impose tax on anything,even yr mom if they wanted to..too much vaping has messed yr head broski

[@noproblematallmate]

People cant stop smoking because they are already addicted. We are not going to allow another addiction to destroy our children.

[@minervaville]

I'm a high school student and almost half of the students in my department vapes. Some even proudly says they (can) vape. Even my own family members joined in to this addiction. It has become a trend here almost to the point some students bring their vapes to school. A classmate of mine was caught but they weren't even scolded fairly. I've always had an irk for vaping/smoking because my father passed away from it, he caught stage 4 cancer with it. He was 13 when he started smoking, and caught an illness in his early 50's. I don't judge anyone smoking or vaping, but for sake of all, please look after your mental and physical health at all times. Have a good day everyone.

[@pblx1321]

real

[@nivrrtakr2891]

Business 😎

[@ebobota]

Both of my grandfathers died of lung disease, probably caused by their addiction to cigarettes :( That's why I'm also against vaping and cigarettes, my friends are getting into vaping now, and some of them are pretty addicted already

[@minervaville]

@@ebobota My condolences. Almost all my friends as well vapes, I was never cool with it but I didn't want to burden them any further.

[@hello-ub5vo]

your dad didn't die from vaping because vaping doesn't cause cancer lmfao

[@ElSantoLuchador]

We should be happy. Southeast Asian men used to have a 70% smoking rate, and women had a 35% smoking rate. Both have halved since 2010. If that's because they all substituted nicotine delivery devices that's still not bad news. (Source: WHO)

[@ProfessorDrUff]

yes it is fact that vaping is way better then Smoking

[@Rob-lq2ny]

No country will ban tobacco products due to high tax imposed for nation revenue.

[@Str4t0sPh3rE]

Don't forget about votes. With such a large market, you're looking at hundreds of thousands of votes lost if you're the one trying to take away the thing they're addicted to.

[@dinomite3794]

@@yusufbest4475 they literally tried banning alcohol before. 1920s Prohibition in the US. Initially imposed with the intention of improving the health of US citizens, inadvertently resulted in the increase of unsafe homemade alcoholic drinks and more activity in the black market.

[@philiplai9407]

Not only we ban it in singapore, it’s illegal to vape here.

[@addykhoo542]

@@philiplai9407 smoking is still fine right?

[@0xBasedChang]

this is exactly the reason governments hate vaping because they dont get tax for liquid nicotine

[@wizny70]

As a 19 year old Malaysian, i feel like 50% of Male students vape. The funny thing is some even start smoking after school.. It's ironic how vaping lead them to cigarettes instead of being an alternative 😭

[@wizny70]

And the school shown in this vid JUST happened to be the school I went to.. I'm not even making this up😅 and I know the vape shop they went undercover too (it's in Maluri, Cheras in case you're wondering)

[@PissMenn]

Do they even allowed to buy cigarettes under the legal age in Malaysia? I know if it's in Indonesia those students could just buy it in local warungs 😂

[@cream2831]

@@PissMenn even underage kids sell them over here bro. Quite sad honestly

[@peanutbutter6165]

@@PissMenn everywhere, people at my school just pay off the people at conveniece stores

[@deleteme3090]

They sell to smoker like mini drug dealer. I remember during my school year it was a money making opportunity.

[@dameneko]

I smoked from age 12 through my early 30s. Everyone in my father's family smoked and I was the youngest. Vaping helped me quit, and yes, I loved the flavors. I used to be a clove (kretek) smoker and a flavored tobacco smoker. But after vaping for a couple years, I could feel it was doing something to my lungs that I didn't like. So, during the pandemic, I quit vaping. I still miss the social aspects of it and doing tricks with my vape. I totally get it. But I love the way my lungs feel now and I think quitting all nicotine products was the right decision for my long-term health. I also like no longer having to budget for it!

[@StickyKeys187]

I remember seeing a prepubescent child from Indonesia chain smoking 3 or four cigs at a time 😂

[@SaraMorgan-ym6ue]

well smoking vaping it your body do with it what you like as your the one who has to live with the consequences🤣🤣🤣

[@arfriedman4577]

Glad you quit that crap.

[@mercurialdanny]

how hard was that first week or two when you finally quit?

[@aoi_18]

Reading the comments here, I'm seeing a lot of people say they quit smoking through conscious effort. So, like any other addiction, the key step to weaning people off smoking or vaping is to build that conscious effort within that person to quit (for any personal reason, be it their own health, for family...etc).

[@sp3949]

All those who are saying they quit smoking could also be occasional smokers. They might’ve quit smoking on a regular basis.

[@roychui6694]

Vaping is a lousy way to quit smoking. I did it in 2014 and ended up smoking even more cigarettes. Quitted cold turkey in 2017 and now, just the smell of cigarettes turns me off. And I haven't vapped since 2014. Bad habits. Both of them.

[@Hhhh22222-w]

Just dont do it

[@ArtSawce]

the concious effort is usually fear when they are told by the doctor, this is like 90% of the cases.

[@spongebob8358]

VAPING IS FREQUENTLY DOING, SPECIALLY YOUNG PEOPLE. BEFORE YOU DO THIS, THINK ABOUT IT, IF IT IS BAD FOR ME? IF IT IS GOOD FOR ME? IF YOU CAN'T KNOW YOUR LIMITS, LOOK YOURSELF AT THE MIRROR IN A COUPLE OF MINUTES.

[@lyns.4884]

Growing up with both parents who is smoking I witness how hard for them to quit. Looking back they both consumed 2 packets a day. And everytime I ask my father to stop he is like "I WILL STOP IF THE COMPANY GO BANKRUPT🤣". But when they sent us (me and my sister) to University that was the time that they change. Addiction is hard to get rid of, but with dedication and motivation it will help you to quit that addiction. Especially if you know that it will help not only you but for your loved ones too.

[@ariewijaya1679]

but did you addicted to porn 😂

[@marsileaputri1485]

As a student, I was very sad because my friends used to be non-smokers and never touched cigarettes. They become vape addicts and no matter how hard I tell them, it could be even more dangerous, especially since it's a new product. I am so grateful to have found this video and I will share it with them even though they will walk away and hate me even more because I am so old fashioned I don't hate smokers or vape I just don't want my loved ones to die in torment, I know this product can give peace of mind forgetting problems and stress, but it's only temporary and something instant sometimes we have to pay for. Again I'm not saying that I won't be tempted by the offer, especially since the ad is very promising. and yes i would rather save my money for other things like my childhood dream of traveling the world small town in indonesia, monday 7 august

[@hardtobeat84]

'Could be more dangerous' Except it isnt. There is no tar in vaping unline smoking, which is far worse. Theres is still no link to cancer with regards to vaping. Its not healthy and i dont vape. But look at the science

[@NVM3]

Benar, faktor ekonomi lebih membuat sadar drpd faktor kesehatan. 😅

[@homelessrobot]

anything 'could be' more dangerous, even well known things. Because we don't know everything. However, its very unlikely that vaping is more harmful than cigarettes given that we know quite a bit about what is dangerous about cigarettes, and most of it isn't in e-liquid. It's called harm reduction. If you have had no success quiting, and no confidence that you can, then nicotine replacements like e-cigarettes, patches, gum, etc are almost certainly way less harmful than smoking cigarettes. You can want all you want, but people who want to get away from cigarettes need a method that actually works. Even if it isn't 100% harmless.

[@basedcheese1]

@@homelessrobot I think it is the fact that while vapes are less harmful in a way, they are still as addicting as the cigarette. So people cope with their addiction with the fact that it is not as bad.

[@homelessrobot]

@@basedcheese1 I do not think that is observably true either. They are addictive for sure. but 'just as addictive' is again overstating an unknown.

[@yunyung]

I used to be very narrow minded. "Well they've started it, can't they just quit?" But this mindset changed when I talked to my closest cousin about why they smoked cigarettes and they told me it's because smoking makes you feel warm. They were diagnosed with depression during that time and wanting to feel like someone is constantly there to hug you is understandable. They eventually stopped smoking and it took a lot of courage and effort. It isn't an overnight thing. In fact, they jumped from cigarettes to vaping but tried stopping the moment they learnt how equally as bad vaping is for their health. So telling these people to just stop or ban vaping and cigarettes will not help. What could help is to keep pushing the long term health effects to these people and hope they take the step to stop either activities

[@yuy2375]

yea i think u mentioned sth usually overlooked. it isnt overnight. u don start overnight, and so u don stop overnight. i got a smoker fren who said this, "this(cig) isnt drug. u can smoke the whole packet today, tmr u don like u can quit. it's when we keep smoking then it becomes a habit/addiction."

[@gvsd3]

​@@yuy2375 Well said brother, as an active smoker myself I can relate

[@ReligionAndMaterialismDebunked]

:3 :3 It's funny how they're worried about vaping, but they probably drink alcohol, probably cannot leave the house without makeup on to please people with their so-called beauty (if they're female), probably take pills regularly because they have a bad diet and are too lazy to exercise, and probably they sit too much too. You gotta love people. Society needs a huge makeover (pun not intended haha). Vaping is better than smoking cigarettes, 98% safer, according to UK scientific studies. Vaping dries you out, and has some negative consequences, sure, and I used to vape, but vaping is far safer than eating meat (being a non-vegan), being lazy, being fat, makeup, pills on the regular, etc. XD

[@ReligionAndMaterialismDebunked]

:3 :3 I didn't even watch the video. I just pasted my comment, and submitted it 5 times in the comment section. Now I'm pasting this one around too. Haha. Plus, I gave likes. Plenty of propaganda from these companies indeed, as one person noted. Nicotine does increase testosterone shortly, cigars have been known to relax the heart (2 cigars a day barely has any risk of cancer, and plenty heart doctors recommend them I've heard), and it can some other health benefits. Nicotine unfortunately restricts your blood, short duration and sometimes cravings (for me, I never had cigarettes, and vaping was easy to stop for hours and days at a time), and some other negatives. Alcohol (alKILLhol) is still one of the very worst drugs. It's involved in over 50% of rape cases and automobile accidents, involved in a lot of other violence, causes cancer, shrinks the brain, and physical dependency can get so bad that going cold turkey has killed some people before. It's literally labelled a poison now in science. It mimics water so well that it enters cells and destroys them. Richard Nixon's scientific team even admitted during his presidency that weed is much safer than weed. They also admitted a lot of the drug war is just based on purposely dividing people, especially by ethnicity, especially against Blacks and Mexicans. It is known to have over 200 health issues from all it gets involved in. It wastes a ton of money. A lot of shady people use it. It makes problems worse. Even one serving is bad, and the 2 drinks a week maximum rule mostly isn't followed, as most people have much more than that a week. Lol... 💀💀💀 Andrew Huberman, viral neuroscientist podcaster.

[@ReligionAndMaterialismDebunked]

:3 My drug of choice these days is coffee. It gives a sorta high, is healthy in moderation, helps exercise and work production, decreases risk of depression and suicide, tastes great, many different types, fights off dementia (being vegan fights it off more), women get horny from it (lol), one of the limited things in life that actually helps you produce more dopamine intake (your focus and drive, which many people have dopamine overload in today's electronic society, as the great Andrew Huberman says), etc. I used to have 10 or so servings at a time just fine. One cup is good for me. I don't even need it for energy, as a vegan, as someone who exercises, proper sleep, and staying hydrated (most Americans don't do this, about 75% don't, according to studies, and a 1-2% dehydration level can cause a bunch of tiredness, amongst other things). I'll drink multiple cups though when I'm not hurting on money. Also, as the great Andrew Huberman neuroscientist podcaster says, to wait at least an hour after waking to have coffee so that your cortisol isn't thrown out of balance so that you don't crash later, as he learned later in life. Huge difference! Unless of course you want the energy spike for an exercise, but it's just best to wait. Lol

[@scetchport]

Excellent report, i had no idea of the depth of this industry. I'm late 60's and gave up smoking about 20 years ago. I let myself have a couple of cigs a day and weaned off slowly over around 6 months. I allowed myself to have a pack in a drawer in case i had to have one, that happened but rarely. It was like knowing i wasnt forced but my own will to ease off and give up.

[@allstones1462]

As a son of an ex-smoker, I greatly respect the choice you have made in your life. Thank you for quitting smoking. It is indeed an incredible feat.

[@NorthernMouse52]

Congratulations on quitting smoking 👍

[@jaylu7021]

Moderation in all things

[@HerculesKumar88]

Last sentence is the harsh reality and everyone should do that... Instead of forcing yourself to quite.. Because if you have been forced do to something the feeling never lasts and when tensed again you want a smoke. I believe your environment contributes alot while quitting. Smoked weed for 3 years during covid.... Then its like I smoke when I want.. Maybe after months... Maybe weeks... But have not been smoking for past 7 months... But soon I will.. 😂

[@NazriB]

Lies again? Shame On America UFC WWE88

[@DanielLy1200]

I smoked in college at the age of 20 and it has followed me my entire life. I quit after college for 15 years, then went through depression and picked it up again in my 40's. I just recently quit vaping about a month ago and I feel wonderful about the decision.

[@nicoinformatics]

What people keep failing to mention is that all these countries that banned vaping and all these "vaping is bad" propaganda are almost always sponsored or lobbied by the big tobacco industries in each particular country, from Singapore to Japan. Notice that vape products are banned in these countries, but not the much more harmful cigarette products. What we should be worried about is not the vaping industry, but the cigarette industry. They're much larger, have much more money to throw away towards lobbying, marketing and propaganda.

[@krollpeter]

Singapore's earnings from tobacco tax is not relevant for the budget, unlike for some other countries. I once looked into it, but I won't dig out these figures again. The government's reasoning is not vaping is harmful or anything like that, or even lesser, they would intend to protect smokers. Their reasoning is entirely based on the intention to block one more avenue to drug addiction. Singapore does not produce cigarettes. China is the biggest producer. I do understand Singapore's policy, albeit I still do not agree with it. I personally stopped a 40 years long smoking habit with the help of a vaping device, and therefore I know how effective it can be.

[@GearMSZeroHD]

Breathe Air!!!!!! U don't need a vape, have u seen anyone with a vape? U just fcking sat at the room be like.... Ouu my vape done charging.... Load the vape up.... And suck it

[@ReligionAndMaterialismDebunked]

^_^ :3 It's funny how they're worried about vaping, but they probably drink alcohol, probably cannot leave the house without makeup on to please people with their so-called beauty (if they're female), probably take pills regularly because they have a bad diet and are too lazy to exercise, and probably they sit too much too. You gotta love people. Society needs a huge makeover (pun not intended haha). Vaping is better than smoking cigarettes, 98% safer, according to UK scientific studies. Vaping dries you out, and has some negative consequences, sure, and I used to vape, but vaping is far safer than eating meat (being a non-vegan), being lazy, being fat, makeup, pills on the regular, etc. XD

[@ReligionAndMaterialismDebunked]

:D :3 I didn't even watch the video. I just pasted my comment, and submitted it 5 times in the comment section. Now I'm pasting this one around too. Haha. Plus, I gave likes. Plenty of propaganda from these companies indeed, as one person noted. Nicotine does increase testosterone shortly, cigars have been known to relax the heart (2 cigars a day barely has any risk of cancer, and plenty heart doctors recommend them I've heard), and it can some other health benefits. Nicotine unfortunately restricts your blood, short duration and sometimes cravings (for me, I never had cigarettes, and vaping was easy to stop for hours and days at a time), and some other negatives. Alcohol (alKILLhol) is still one of the very worst drugs. It's involved in over 50% of rape cases and automobile accidents, involved in a lot of other violence, causes cancer, shrinks the brain, and physical dependency can get so bad that going cold turkey has killed some people before. It's literally labelled a poison now in science. It mimics water so well that it enters cells and destroys them. Richard Nixon's scientific team even admitted during his presidency that weed is much safer than weed. They also admitted a lot of the drug war is just based on purposely dividing people, especially by ethnicity, especially against Blacks and Mexicans. It is known to have over 200 health issues from all it gets involved in. It wastes a ton of money. A lot of shady people use it. It makes problems worse. Even one serving is bad, and the 2 drinks a week maximum rule mostly isn't followed, as most people have much more than that a week. Lol... 💀💀💀 Andrew Huberman, viral neuroscientist podcaster.

[@ReligionAndMaterialismDebunked]

😮My drug of choice these days is coffee. It gives a sorta high, is healthy in moderation, helps exercise and work production, decreases risk of depression and suicide, tastes great, many different types, fights off dementia (being vegan fights it off more), women get horny from it (lol), one of the limited things in life that actually helps you produce more dopamine intake (your focus and drive, which many people have dopamine overload in today's electronic society, as the great Andrew Huberman says), etc. I used to have 10 or so servings at a time just fine. One cup is good for me. I don't even need it for energy, as a vegan, as someone who exercises, proper sleep, and staying hydrated (most Americans don't do this, about 75% don't, according to studies, and a 1-2% dehydration level can cause a bunch of tiredness, amongst other things). I'll drink multiple cups though when I'm not hurting on money. Also, as the great Andrew Huberman neuroscientist podcaster says, to wait at least an hour after waking to have coffee so that your cortisol isn't thrown out of balance so that you don't crash later, as he learned later in life. Huge difference! Unless of course you want the energy spike for an exercise, but it's just best to wait. Lol

[@Barrosy]

I don't smoke myself, never even thought about it (well I did but I considered benefits vs drawbacks). Smoke always smelled bad to me but when I saw other people using this small device the size and look of a modern wallet, I started to wonder. "Are these things actually a healthy way of recreation?" - this video shows exactly it's not that. Thanks for making this documentary.

[@spongebob8358]

VAPES, CIGARETTES, ALCOHOLIC BEVERAGES/DRINKS, AND DRUGS, ARE LEGALIZED, BUT NO HEALTH BENEFITS. MEANWHILE, THE HERBS LIKE CANNABIS, AND MARIJUANA IN THE PHILIPPINES IS STILL ILLEGALIZED, BUT WITH HEALTH BENEFITS. I'M REALLY SAD FOR THIS SOCIETY RIGHT NOW. FACE THE REALITY, AND PRAY FOR YOUR SELF, AND YOUR SOUL TO START SOMETHING NEW.

[@Dhruv-wv9ck]

Vapes are 95% safer than cigarettes and not carcinogenic

[@plazmagaming2182]

Vape in indoneisa/malaysia is crazy, these muslims dont practice what they preach...

[@aimanmohammad7749]

Yes we should be worried. My younger brother, an active student who played sports and such but vape with high levels just have his lungs punctured because his right side lungs was shrinking the it take him about 24 days after 3 surgery to make it better. After a month the lung was not in its original size. For those who watch and read this but vaping or smoking. Please stop. It’s useless.

[@AJ91244756]

@Travel Explorer pics or it didn’t happen🤓

[@tankman20064]

It never happen😂😂😂😂😂

[@81antiloop]

Mixing up vape with COVID ? That's a long stretch 😂

[@patrickjeow]

You are the captain of your own life. You bore the fruit that you sowed. Nobody can help you if you lung collapse.

[@alexiszurex]

sorry to say bos, ur argument is OBSOLETE !!!!

[@DK-ns6rm]

how is this a crisis? are people dying from it? or is it just harming tobacco profits? LOL

[@darwinqpenaflorida3797]

Indonesia was the only Southeast Asian country never ratified the WHO Convention of Tobacco Control including Cigarette Marketing since the only place can be seen outdoor ads in highways and even on media like television

[@jaz1410]

Yeah but the regulation of cigarette ads and tvc in Indonesia are not allowed to literally or visually display any smoking activities, instead they create a lifestyle story or masculin theme in the ada story line…

[@darwinqpenaflorida3797]

@@jaz1410Yes my brother because anywhere in Indonesia especially Sumatra and Java they have seen Cigarette ads with lifestyle or sports theme in major cigarette companies like Semporna, Djarum Super and others(P.S I’m a Filipino and I’m not a smoker)

[@Grefareal]

ironically, smoking and vaping is seen as part of their identity

[@darwinqpenaflorida3797]

@Broskisnowski Yeah Kreteks are local cigarette produced since the Dutch colonial period

[@darwinqpenaflorida3797]

@@Grefareal Yeah

[@hiyg]

It's just annoying that in my country a lot of people have no consideration of people around them. They just vape everywhere. Public vehicles, while walking on streets with a lot of people etc.

[@NotCroutons]

Smokers also do this in my country. They don't care if their smoke is going directly into the faces of hundreds of people around them in a busy area.

[@quietday9991]

Precisely! It’s become an unhealthy habit/culture around here. It goes to show the lack of awareness and ignorance in this country

[@rjjrjehehew]

Needs to slap the crap out of their hands and faces

[@joebobathon7644]

you must be 12 years old

[@What.s_the_Truth]

I have seen people do it in the library, the beach... it smells gross to me, even with all the artificial fruity smell.

[@RenoGibson]

I don't get it, what exactly is there to worry about? Who cares if I vape?

[@pinkdarkman]

We don't care about you, we care about the little kids who are starting to vape at young ages, which starts an addiction that cripples them for the rest of their lives and causes preventable health issues that overwhelm the already collapsing healthcare system.

[@Halfnoob]

i started smoking when i was 13 years old. i quit smoking july 2022 when i met my fiance. im 40 years old now. almost reach my 1 year smoke free

[@dodongai]

I smoked like crazy, but it wasn’t until I tried cigar that I realised how disgusting smoking really is. It’s like a self realisation and you just naturally want to stop because of the dirt you see your lungs absorb

[@nob.s-studyaccnt9256]

This, self realisation leading and cbt is the best way to get rid of any psychological addiction

[@VitchAndVorty]

Amen to that. Although, in my case, smoking was my coping mechanism when dealing with my own depression. But, then I realized that I was destroying myself TWICE by doing both at the same time. So I decided to quit them both, for good.

[@liamthen445]

​@@VitchAndVorty good for you man

[@chiayin7097]

@@nob.s-studyaccnt9256w

[@rjjrjehehew]

Degenerate

[@mendesenzo6943]

Psychedelics are just an exceptional mental health breakthrough. It's quite fascinating how effective they are against depression and anxiety. Saved my life

[@FelipeHidalgo-sd7nu]

To be honest, mushrooms are one of the most amazing things on the planet and it is natural, they serve in many ways not only for mental related issues.

[@MichaelFerguson-tx8de]

Does anyone know any good source to get them? I put so much on my plate and it definitely affects my stress and anxiety levels, would love to try them

[@mendesenzo6943]

Yes, Sporeville

[@weberkarl6428]

Tripping is not bad but find a good mycologist who will inform you of the right things you need to know

[@ElianaBravo-hr3qk]

Sporeville is pretty commendable and a very intelligent mycologist I'm glad to be part of his community

[@Gods-silliest-Goose23]

My dad use to be a former smoker and started to smoke in the military. It took him years of cigarettes and nicotine gum to quit. Once he quit he started to get into stocks and he bought a stock with a small company Juul. I immediately knew what it was because I was in school learning about it from kids so I told him it’s a nicotine company for a younger audience and he immediately sold his stock. He would’ve made hundreds of thousands on his stock but he didn’t want to support getting young adults to smoke

[@davidmcgee5375]

I am a silly goose too!

[@mumumaxima]

I was a smoker ten years ago. What made me stop smoking was one huge moment when I knew part of my lungs were dysfunctional. I just stopped, moved to another city, and changed my old habit to helpful, something better like exercise and yoga. My health improved after that. I never come back since. Even when the vaping phenomenon came, I never wanted to try it.

[@saturationstation1446]

congratulations for being part of the 1% of the human species who can just move whenever they please... congratulations on feeling superior and endorsing the enslavement and perpetual torture of 99% of the human species. please find a different planet to torture.

[@AJ-jq3hm]

Did the lung dysfunction reverse, are they healthy now?

[@bassyey]

@@AJ-jq3hm There's an age where your lungs can recover! Our body is amazing but don't abuse it.

[@J.J.J.J.J.J.J]

Well done on stopping. And continuing to promote others to make the same healthy choice you did.

[@kudajingkrak4919]

i quit smoking during the pandeimc. been 3years now... i was so bored of lockdown, so i bought a bicycle and exploring far the countrysides to rural vilages to avoid lockdown. i think the bicycle help my lungs to recover real fast .

[@kentang-r2b]

its fun and relaxing until you have cancer

[@fcqyy]

I started smoked cigarettes when i was 14. I stopped smoking 4 years ago and replaced it with Vape. Today’s I stopped Vape nearly a week. Honestly it’s not easy for me. Wish me luck guys, I wanna healthy lifestyle ☕️👊🏻 oh im 28 this year btw

[@bhavya8043]

Good luck, you got this. Stay strong my friend

[@سعد-ش1ب]

اخبارك بعد سته هل نجح الاقلاع🏃‍♀️

[@BadMrFrosty999]

I vape and I used to smoke a pack a day 8 yrs ago. Switched to vaping because we had our first born. All I can say is if you don't smoke, don't start vaping. Vaping might be less harmful than smoking but it's not completely harmless. I do believe that vaping should never be allowed in minors. I also think banning vaping is not the way to go. If you are going to ban it ban cigarettes first

[@J.J.J.J.J.J.J]

Well done on stopping tobacco! Soon enough you'll get past vaping.

[@r.i.t.randominterestingthi4031]

just banned both of them wtf with the ladies first excuses?

[@Time-Shepherd.]

Vape has kept me away from cigarettes for 12 years ❤️‍🔥

[@yuuyuuyuu4237]

Because cigarettes can burn out, you'll know when to stop puffing, and it's up to you to light another one or not. Vapes don't burn out and you'll keep puffing like crazy until you realize you've been doing it for hours, which is worse than having 2 sticks every 3 to 4 hours.

[@kevinnketamine]

I wish my vape produced infinite vapor. Would be a miracle of physics and thermodynamics indeed.

[@satriorama4118]

Once you're addicted you cant stop. I've seen my supervisor smoked 3-4 pack in 1 day. It's crazy.

[@rianelopez4948]

Why would they vape for a long period? It takes 14 puffs to consume a stick of cigarette so i treat my vape thevsame way. 14:puffs after meals and i do my own zerro nic e-juice.

[@killshill5896]

@@rianelopez4948 Why would you vape for long? Maybe cause as a smoker you are addicted to nicotine. 99% of smokers who transition to vapes are not doing 0 nic juice. Once you start vaping, sure the first couple days or weeks, you dont puff the vape too much cause of nicotine OD making you feel sick, but after a while that tolerance goes up so fast you dont even realize it. Next thing you know, its not having a puff after certain things or at certain times but literally its have a puff after doing anything or anytime you are not doing anything you vape to feel productive.

[@ghoul3804]

That's one of the most fking retarded reasoning I've ever heard.

[@Sam-li4cr]

Why do I feel like I just watched a whole new flavor of modern cult.

[@rizqidwik.2588]

the tittle should be direct, "Indonesia's booming vaping industry" why bother changing the direction to south east asia... hahahha

[@KC_88631]

Holy crap, 1 packet of cigarettes every hour. That's 12 packets of cigarettes a day. Is that even possible?

[@aderahmat197]

That rookie numbers

[@syanreeze253]

you really underestimated how bad addiction is

[@ashkanzahoor7242]

I used to smoke around 15-16 per day, but successfully reduced it to 8

[@boombabitch]

@Broskisnowski you havent seen addiction buddy

[@LoLHahaLolHahaLol]

24 packs if she doesn’t sleep lol

[@edwardlumsianming3430]

People just want to do what they want to do regardless of the health issues. Consequences will surface way later in life. We reap what we sow. How they want to live their lives it is their choice. 😢😢😢😢😢😢

[@J.J.J.J.J.J.J]

second hand smoke kills 1 million + people per year. Tobacco smoking needs to stop.

[@howardlam6181]

I don't care if they got poor health for their own habit. I only care when they jeopardize someone else's health, like the influencer's mom 7:54, who got cancer from other people's smoke. We should be allowed self-defence on people who smoke.

[@gedewarsika7717]

Mau vape mau rokok..terserahh aja....asal dikamar sendiri...dan klo bisa asapnya ditelan sendiri 😅🤣

[@sqfath7490]

With heavy marketing like that; big events, competitions with big prizes, exclusive places like cafe for the community, etc; it's not a way to stop smoking anymore, it's just change one addiction and replace it with other addiction. As an ex-heavy smoker, if someone really want to stop smoking I think they should have a clear goal, not only change their cigarettes with vape and hoping they can stop someday while vaping almost every minutes.

[@MsJubjubbird]

I would say vaping has got more people to take up smoking than it has to quit. A sparkly pink bubblegum flavoured vape is clearly not a medicinal quitting product but a way to get kids into tobacco. The plan in Australia is to make them available as prescription only medicine in pharmacies.

[@Supremepikachu]

Tasty fun addiction!

[@makiruby9462]

In Malaysia, i saw lot of youngin who never ever smoke cigarettes before , started vaping. This mean they introduce harm to their body. Also, I dont understand the reasoning of malaysia company not having 0% nicotine option for the liquid when they claim their goal is for people to stop smoking altogether, kinda oxymoron.

[@yarmgl1613]

if they didn't vape they would have smoke cigarette instead, smoking is a "good" habit, it's good for the mind

[@makiruby9462]

@@yarmgl1613 yeah agreed with this. Most of my friend who vapes says they cant fit well unless the also vape, it give them "peace of mind"

[@westcoastkidd17]

I smoked for about 10 years and began vaping as an alternative to cigarettes. It helped, but I went back to cigarettes for about half a year because I lost my vape device and didn't want to spend money buying another. Then finally in the beginning of 2021 I quit cold turkey because of how out of shape I felt jogging around the block. Quitting is freaking hard because of the psychological misery of a craving. But if you can successfully bypass those cravings and force your brain to be okay with life without nicotine/cigarettes, you can definitely quit for the better and truly be a person that just doesn't smoke anymore.

[@MeDiA_AiDeM]

You know what's funny.... Vaping is 5 times worst than the cigarettes.

[@glowingone1774]

You know whats funny, KZbin commentators pulling stats out of their ass without sourcing the facts.@@MeDiA_AiDeM

[@MrMonnTM]

@@MeDiA_AiDeM You know what's funny? I was vaping and smoking, 10 years smoking and 5 years vaping. Vaping is much better, easier to quit smoking, feel much better and i don't stink. Now i have quit smoking all together, but i would rather continue vaping than quitting. Nice aroma and nicotine influx that relaxes and stimulates you. Thank you mf for being an ass for people like me. Due to your mentality they either ban or up the taxes.....Can i not choose what kills me? I rather be killed by "high" of vaping rather than toxic fumes from my job.

[@smonyboy]

ban vaping because not profitable to the govt (not taxed) but continue allowing cigarettes. It's all about the $$$ to the party in white.

[@thespacejedi]

the party in white can always tax vape, since they are authoritarian, so your point doesn't really hold

[@crazzp]

you're naive if you think Govt cannot tax vape if they want to.

[@93hothead]

This is a retard

[@Alice3456able]

ban vaping because it isn't as prevalent as smoking yet. ban smoking and you will straight up get social unrest and cigarette sales will just go into the black market. it's good to question motives but it's not all about the money all the time

[@yip2454]

Haha yes and if you do not know we manufacture cigarettes for other countries too

[@yussofross1417]

But I know friends who never smoked but started vaping and are addicted to it now entirely.

[@kiansation]

Give me a million dollar ill quit breathing for a second 😂

[@glennjv01]

quit smoking more than 10years ago when vaping was just new. i quit smoking immediately and quit vaping after 6 months since i gradually reduced the nicotine. My opinion, its a tool to quit smoking. I too believe its the lesser evil than tobacco smoking.

[@gerardoruiz3359]

I was 16 when Juul came out. Since then, now I am 19 and havent stopped vaping. Until I just randomly went cold turkey May 1st, 2023. I am currently 2 weeks clean from a 3 year day to day use. Wish me luck guys

[@dad875]

All the best man, way to go. 🤝🤝

[@alaric8220]

How is it?

[@nukeputin420]

Hope you're still clean

[@austinshirley4253]

at least they’re not smoking cigarettes

[@ccyoutube8793]

The world is run by two types the greedy and the stupid both complement each other 😅

[@kiyotan1048]

funny thing is, i'm so close to being addicted to vaping. but after hitting one every minute to practice tricks, and then getting nic sick that made me so nauseous that every single movement made me want to vomit, the thought of vaping itself is enough to not make me reach out to my dispo 😭😭

[@JohnGeorge-pw2xo]

I could remember several years ago I was addicted to cigarettes. Also suffered severe depression and mental disorder. Not until my mom recommended me to psilocybin mushrooms treatment. Psilocybin treatment saved my life honestly. 8 years totally clean. Never thought I would be saying this about mushrooms.

[@ErnestoHorner88]

Can you help with the reliable source I would really appreciate it. Many people talk about mushrooms and psychedelics but nobody talks about where to get them. Very hard to get a reliable source here in Germany. Really need!

[@DonnDenisse]

Hey! Yes very sure of Dr.benshrooms. a single dose of shrooms saved me from Alcohol addiction. 6 years clean. no cravings. this doesn't sound weird to me in any way shape or form.

[@rosemary8305]

How do I reach out to him? Is he on insta

[@PriscillaLogan-by9ll]

Yes he's Dr.benshrooms.Lsd and psilocybin are amazing teachers along its dmt mah dudes have safe trips all. Shrooms are blessings from nature.

[@DebanckKim-rd6to]

I wish they were readily available in my place. Microdosing was my next plan of care for my husband. He is 59 & has so many mental health issues plus probable CTE & a TBI that left him in a coma 8 days. It's too late now I had to get a TPO as he's 6'6 300+ pound homicidal maniac. He's constantly talking about killing someone. He's violent. Anyone reading this Familiar w/ BPD know if it is common for an obsession with violence.

[@myk-popper2960]

My god even the air at the event looks nasty. I can practically smell it through my screen

[@AWY-LO]

if you can practically smell it through your screen, you need to seek medical condition immediately.

[@SuperXmarvinX]

Malaysia and Indonesia as a vape heaven, why am I not surprised. Actually in Thailand, they ban vaping, but people still vape everywhere and there are still some physical shops selling vape and weed.

[@FaizFS3]

using druged vape for yourself is already bad enough, but if you do that in public and make random stranger get high, now thats just hella evil

[@euniceoz2791]

It's hard to convince one to quit smoking/vaping. At the other side, as someone who never smoke, I was invited a couple times from my friends and colleagues to vape. Vaping has became a young culture, and people around me think that it is cool to vape, but didn't realize the underlying risk from those undefined ingredients in those liquids. There are no regulations for the production of vape, which makes the integrity of product ingredients not trustworthy. Sometimes, when most of your colleagues or friends vape, it also created peer pressure to fit in a certain community. Especially for teenagers, they are easily influenced by friends, and not informed on the cons of vaping. It's dangerous, and disappointing that the data shows about 10 percent of vapers are teenagers. Vaping shouldn't be labelled as 'cool' and 'trendy' but should be marketed fitting to its real purpose.

[@homeland1128]

Imma just thank the Gods and Goddesses that i never touched any vape nor cigs in my school days lmfao

[@veiserexab1428]

No one really says it's cool unless they're like 18 or below

[@r.i.t.randominterestingthi4031]

@@homeland1128 also thank yourself to steel your will againts tempation

[@migspedition]

Marketing rarely appeals to the side of reason because human beings in general are irrational and sensastional 😂

[@NM-wk3dg]

Been vaping on and off since 2012, with long gaps in between, it really helped curb ng smoking habit. I still vape, but haven't smoked cigarettes for years. What's alarming is how young ones have started smoking and vaping, even those underage.

[@earlludwig3614]

No regulations? These people have no idea the world of hurt they will be in when the bad health effects strike them down the road. You can take that reality to the bank.

[@RayMak]

Don’t do it kids…

[@anthynuryanti4499]

Saya dari Indonesia, berhenti merokok karena vaping

[@xam.official]

As an Indonesian vaping is a fairly common thing here there are a lot of vape shops in my area like two shops with not event only across the street. Vaping can stop a smoking addiction but it also has risks. As a student i can't really do much to prevent smoking or vaping but I really hope the government will do something about it.

[@shalbec3232]

The documentary won't do anything😂 they don't are and will continue to vape

[@HappyCollector2]

dokumenter2 anti vape ato rokok kayak gini sebenernya cuman pengen bikin bangkrut pengusaha2 lokal indonesia kok...karena gimanapun juga industri ini adalah yg memberi rejeki pada banyak WN kita... dan gimana pun juga dampak alkohol dan junk food itu sebenernya lebih parah daripada rokok...tapi kita gak pernah tuh liat orang2 bule ini nutup bar2 alkohol dan nutup resto2 junk food...kita gak pernah liat orang2 bule ini protes ttg junk food ato alkohol... cuman rokok dan vape doang yg selalu mereka larang bahkan sampe di negara kita sndiri...

[@vivekjkumar5797]

indo govt is so weak. i wish they stopped taking bribe so much and look toward helping the people.

[@vvboo]

@@HappyCollector2 mulai

[@rizalinaction07]

talked about regulation, is there any cigarettes regulation? tar, nicotine, smell, cigar? its just about money. even this investigation could be paid by cigarettes. if want real fact, why did't make study about it? or there were study, but the result might not as expected, by gov and cig factory?

[@josephcole6367]

Indonesia is the coolest

[@NopalTheRock]

My brother work at the one of the biggest Vape company but the irony is, he didn't smoke at all

[@seiwarriors]

I worked in a Vaping company for some time and i never vaped before then however even after working there for some time i never started to vape due to the fact that there were still mg's of nicotine and back then i smoked casually and was trying to quit and thankfully i quit and now going for 2 years but when this dude says that 0 mg is not needed is just a ploy for having consumers consuming thier products in order for the business to keep running therfore all these vaping companies doesn't care about you, they only care about the profits they can gain out of you. In addition when you get 0mg try to break of the habit of vaping as this is something that is the ahrdest thing to do for people.

[@ReligionAndMaterialismDebunked]

:p My drug of choice these days is coffee. It gives a sorta high, is healthy in moderation, helps exercise and work production, decreases risk of depression and suicide, tastes great, many different types, fights off dementia (being vegan fights it off more), women get horny from it (lol), one of the limited things in life that actually helps you produce more dopamine intake (your focus and drive, which many people have dopamine overload in today's electronic society, as the great Andrew Huberman says), etc. I used to have 10 or so servings at a time just fine. One cup is good for me. I don't even need it for energy, as a vegan, as someone who exercises, proper sleep, and staying hydrated (most Americans don't do this, about 75% don't, according to studies, and a 1-2% dehydration level can cause a bunch of tiredness, amongst other things). I'll drink multiple cups though when I'm not hurting on money. Also, as the great Andrew Huberman neuroscientist podcaster says, to wait at least an hour after waking to have coffee so that your cortisol isn't thrown out of balance so that you don't crash later, as he learned later in life. Huge difference! Unless of course you want the energy spike for an exercise, but it's just best to wait. Lol

[@mypronounismom1056]

If you have never smoked, don't start. However, if you're a current smoker, vape is much better than the cancer stick. Underage sales are prohibited in many countries. What the problem is really is that irresponsible adults are buying for the young. This should be punishable by law.

[@ainzooalgown7589]

its not irresponsible adults but greedy adults, for every sale to a kid they take a small commission and hence are rewarded to sell to kids, when i was in secondary school, the schooler gardener sold cigarettes to students at 10% mark up allowing him to earn more from selling cigarettes than his main job the school gardener

[@ahmadfariz5963]

Who say vape better thay cig?

[@3L3V3N_S1X]

@@ahmadfariz5963 so its worse?

[@Frzned9x]

@@ahmadfariz5963 like every doctor and sciencetist in the world?

[@ahmadfariz5963]

@@3L3V3N_S1X yup..it is worse... Even some studies showed not worse, it same level with smoking

[@pyfirst214]

I rather have a generation of vapers than a new generation of smokers.

[@vacafuega]

Vaping got me off cigarettes and i'm grateful i had that option. It was definitely much, much better than cigarettes, but now i've quite vaping too, that's much, much better than vaping. There really needs to be much more structure in place to protect younger people, i completely support regulations for that. At the same time we shouldn't throw smokers under the bus, it's an incredibly tough thing to quit, partly because it's so weaved into social interactions and groups. Quitting smoking can mean being excluded from the social circle, and it's not always possible to find another one or to tolerate the pain of exclusion.

[@shawndj1369]

Those Msian 'vape experts' are so full of something

[@pedroferreira4323]

I'll never understand why people choose to keep smoking cigs You get the cig """high""" the first 3 times you smoke it in your life, after that you feel nothing from it I personally can't even inhale it, the moment it reaches my lungs I automatically start to cough, something that doesn't happen with weed. It's an ugly expensive habit that gives you no high and makes you smell bad.

[@aminaljunid]

I actually transitioned to vaping before i stopped smoking( 3 boxes/day) 4 years ago. Vaping is great until i inhaled some really bad juice though. That caused me to give up vaping. While losing interest in bodybuilding and martial arts because it took too long to heal from whatever the bad juice did to my lungs (Shortness of breath, fatigue)So i guess there’s pros and cons.

[@silverfoxchain]

Hope you get back into martial arts! Great job at quitting.❤

[@peternguyen3732]

love these docos keep them coming. Raw and straight to the point.

[@gozushi-gaming]

boomer explaining what vape is.. boomer explaining what bitcoin is... just the same...🤣

[@Fretmuchayr]

Even if SG banned vape still have so many youngsters especially secondary sch kids or even pri sch kids vape yet authorities do not catch.

[@MsJubjubbird]

I think over time it would become less cool. If they ban flavoured products and advertising and make the only available in pharmacies in boring packaging then it won't be as cool. Cigarettes in Australia have been turned into a gutter drug for losers and we need to do the same with vapes.

[@MaurizioDeLeo]

Banning is not a solution, as shown by prohibitionism in USA in the 1920s and by the widespread vaping in Singapore. Much better to legalize and regulate, with clear information on the risks of various psychoactive substances (alcohol, nicotine, caffeine, THC, etc).

[@nukeputin420]

Well said. Harm reduction and regulation

[@perrycheong1058]

We could say the same about the war on drugs too.

[@forevertrue6143]

Some vape liquid doesn't contain any nicotine and you can get nicotine as low as 3mg/ml I do think vaping helps people to stop stop smoking especially when they use 'tobacco' flavour low nicotine vape liquid

[@daydreamingyou]

Thank you, a very good documentation.

[@vyzoy]

I started to smoke cigarettes at the age of 14 and become a daily (not heavy) smoker at 15. I can say that I'm almost at the point of obesity and smoking really affect my breathing, I still remember I can't do many activities because it feels hard to breathe sometimes. At 17, I switched to vape (using mod) until now and I can say I feel way more different, yes I'm still fat but when I do a lot of activities, I can feel it's not hard to breathe like when I was smoking. I'm here not to say vaping is better for your health, but at all costs, you shouldn't smoke or vape (ngl, it's getting expensive LMAO). And I agree, especially in Indonesia, there must be a regulation about vaping industry for example what's the max portion of a liquid ingredient is allowed. But, I don't want Indonesia to ban vape because I don't want jail time KEKW

[@edgar1013]

I was a smoker drinker and over weight with pre diabetes. I stopped drinking alcohol and smoking cigarettes. Changed my diet started walking 5 miles a day and switched to vaping. I lost 55 pounds I was taken off the pre diabetes list and I feel like a new person. Vaping might not be the best thing for me but I can tell you I breath and move around a lot better. Big tobacco and big pharma see vaping as a number 1 threat and need to abolish it by any means necessary. The illegal the vapes that people were getting sick by are not vaping products. The are made illegally adding vitamin e acetate which is what cause the health issues. The propaganda against vaping is a media disinformation cause by lobby government and big tobacco.

[@kiranm6749]

Vapping is more addictive then cig. No limitations just keep vapping... .. quite difficult to control the useage..

[@Onion_Knights]

the best way to stop vaping and smoking is... dont start it.

[@EmonicVampire]

Do you even know what stop word means 😅

[@Onion_Knights]

@@EmonicVampire no i dont, so tell me

[@EmonicVampire]

@@Onion_Knights thats make sense. Google it. i'm not your vocabulary.

[@EmonicVampire]

@@Onion_Knights why do you even responding? 🤣

[@Onion_Knights]

@@EmonicVampire i wouldnt take any advice from someone who his vocabulary is as bad as mine. lol

[@Raiya_ru17]

I used to smoke but was able to make myself quit. Hate the vape smoke and just how insensitive vape smokers are, like they thought vape smokes are not harmful so they can just blow that smoke everywhere. The smoke smell is so nauseous so I never tried that even if I tried quitting smoking regular cigarettes. Teens hopping on these are just after the cool factor or just because of peer influence. I only smoked because of the work stress but I was able to quit it since I started doing sports.

[@albtraum4172]

It's cool that they like smoking and vaping in Asia, as a BAT shareholder I hope they smoke Pall Mall and vape Vuse ❤😊

[@Tenomas]

Funny 10 years ago i saw same news about indonesia children exposed by smoke

[@devoutmisanthrope5687]

If vaping is banned, these countries also should ban cigarettes and alcohol if they're so worried about people's health. Alcohol is much more addictive than nicotine and cigarettes have far more detrimental health effects than vaping does.

[@rjjrjehehew]

AHH but the disgusting big tobacco won't like iy

[@msiankid]

ban sugar as well, ban fossil fuels

[@MsJubjubbird]

it's not that simple. Both of these items were in society for a long time and made socially acceptable before the harms were know. Therefore there will always be demand for them and prohibition- as shows with the US policy on alcohol in the 30s- would create a whole new can of problems, including a black market. Cigarettes are no longer socially acceptable so are highly regulated in western countries like Australia New Zealand and Canada. They are expensive and cannot be advertised or displayed. Alcohol is different. It would be political suicide to ban it in western countries. It's socially acceptable and an engrained part of many cultures. Many people consume it in small doses, it generates tourism (wine regions) and economies would crumble if vineyards, breweries, bars, pubs, distilleries and nightclubs had to fold. Regulation of advertising and access, as well as educating people that binge drinking isn't cool and alcohol free days are essential is needed. Having said that, there is a growing trend in alcohol free products. Getting smashed is not as cool at it was ten years ago. Vaping is new and we know it's bad for us. Best to ban it now before it becomes too entrenched.

[@therealexpletive]

10 year vaper here. saved my life point blank. STOP REGULATING and TAXING US INTO NON EXISTENCE. some of this doc is infuriating.

[@flywithme3578]

I was one of the 1% - 0mg Nicotine vapers after quitting cigarretes. But after 1 year of vaping I stopped that too. But for an absolute non smoker i like the vapers more because the air doesn't stink that bad around them

[@diansapuart]

as indonesian, i never felt more embarrassed

[@ArthursHD]

I rather see them legal than illegal and unregulated. Sadly they forbited flavors in Latvia. That said I don't smoke, drink or vape.

[@Jakob.Hamburg]

15:55 He says if you don't have nicotine (in your vape liquid) you can't stop smoking. This is wrong. For some people who smoke it is important to do the ritual and to inhale something. For them 0 nicotine liquids are useful on the way of quitting smoking.

[@imaknaktamales]

Everybody is addicted to something. I just prefer my addiction to be something that doesn't cost me much or bring any health and social implication to myself.

[@John.Flower.Productions]

I am addicted to hydrogen and oxygen.

[@frog6054]

I'm glad I'm just addicted to KZbin, Reddit, Video games and manga. The only thing this cost is my internet bill.

[@neanda]

I searched for alternative to smoking way back in 2010, because my lungs were killing me. I searched and found the joyetech first version, it was cartridge style and there were forums about how to hack it so we could load it with eliquid. I can't watch this nonsense that's obviously coming from a no idea of why people are using it. Before 2010, I'd constantly have a roll up cigarette burning in the ashtray, since then, I've got a vape with me, for 13 years now, no problems at all. My lungs were dying before, and 13 years later, no issue at all, maybe a slight cough if I've been overdoing when drunk. This video is just fkn bs that I can't even watch past 2 mins, I know where they're leading. It's like my mother telling me that vape is chemicals - yes of course it is, as is everything like that apple you're holding, but trust me, I do not cough like I did 13 years ago. It's better to do nothing at all, smh. It's better to have the lesser of evils and to enjoy life before we die. I vape as a replacement for smoking, which was the original reason why the guy invented it (to try to save his father from lung cancer, although it was too late, yet not for many others). Banning everything that doesn't fit into your myopic view of the world is just fkn nonsense. I'm out

[@hollypark2752]

if you're planning to be a doctor in asia, the market for the next decade or so looks good ;)

[@bryanchrz9284]

I was a vaporista for five years, honestly it made me quit smoking. Customers had experienced the same, but some only do it for lifestyle. Me as a vaporista never tell customer that vape is good for health, but much more better then health. We know vaping is still bad but some people don't how hard it is to quit smoking. Even eating instant noodle is bad for your health. Some of the customers I know are still vaping till now and even take liquids with higher nicotine, some stopped and never came back to the store, some quit vaping and switched back to smoking. In Indonesia vaping is already regulated expecially for liquid producers, so only certified brands are able to produce liquid that are sold to vapestores. Not like back then, where everybody can make their own liquid. Our store policy is never sell to underage customers and we will ask for ID if we feel that the customer is an underage, sometimes we laugh at them when they come and tell them to comeback 10 years later. Even online shop are restricted too, only account that has verified their ID that can see vape products and if you search for vape items on an android phone, it is restricted so you could only see it only through ios or desktop. We tried our best to not sell to minors, but some parents buy liquid for their own son. Some small stores that are opened in their own house and sell vape to underage. They don't care about 18+ cause all they think is profit because it is a profitable business here in Indonesia. Some even sell unregulated liquids and these stores usually sell below the regulated price and makes some big stores close their shop. It's hard when some people fail to follow the regulations, and it is a crisis for now since I see a lot of underage vaping now. Well let's hope there's a change for the regulation where not all people can easliy open up stores here in Indonesia. I still vape for now, good for you guys who don't smoke. For the ones battling hard to quit smoking, goodluck.

[@jonahabenhaim1223]

you still need to look after your health

[@DarkMelodies-hv9wf]

did you just say that parents buy liquids for their kids?

[@bryanchrz9284]

@@DarkMelodies-hv9wf yeah, they vape together

[@nukeputin420]

​@@DarkMelodies-hv9wfI worked at a gas station in the US while I was in college and parents would buy cigarettes for their kiddos

[@mcbchannel7173]

yes, liquids and vape mod/pod devices are restricted to 18+y.o in indonesian local ecommerce “tokopedia”. it requires to upload and verify id card. same goes with alcohol, it needs to verify the id and limited to 21+ y.o

[@midknight]

I went from smoking cigarettes to smoking a tobacco pipe to vaping with 6mg nicotine juice to vaping 0mg juice to now not smoking / vaping at all. Tried to quit smoking 1000 times and failed 1000 times, wouldn’t have been able to without vaping

[@spongebob8358]

WE ARE LIVING IN THE VERY HARMFUL WORLD.

[@J.J.J.J.J.J.J]

Well done!!

[@simonloh4592]

Big Vape vs Big Tobacco vs Big Marijuana...who will win the smoke war$ 😅😂🤣

[@hoff521]

Ironically smoking cigs was a gateway to real nicotine addiction for me. I casually smoked in university, a few here and there per week, and for first few years of working did it because others did. Max I got to was maybe 5 per day during the week, never on weekends, and could easily take weeks off. It smelled gross on my clothes and I'd just never let it become a full-time thing. I then tried nicotine lozenges and started to up my intake because I could have one in my mouth at all times, even while I worked. When I tried to stop those cold turkey like I could before with cigs, I felt what real withdrawal was like. Out of body anxiety, it was insane. I then started vaping as an alternative. In Canada at the time, 5% was sold. That stuff was powerful, and withdrawals were insane, even worse than the mints. More time went by and Nicotine mints at this point gave me heartburn, so I wasn't interested in those, and smoking was even more disgusting to me. What actually saved me was when my country banned anything above 2% vape pods. For a while my lungs were feeling gross, so I had been thinking of quitting, but the withdrawals were too much. When they stopped selling high percentage, it sucked at first and I was pissed, but I could start to more easily take little breaks. After a while I realized it basically did nothing for me other than feel normal, but at least because it was lower percentage, it was easier to get off. I finally decided to quit it all this past Christmas. The first few days were hell, and for the next month I had pretty strong cravings here and there, but stuck with it. Happy to still be nicotine-free.

[@banandababa]

Good on you for quitting keep it up 👏

[@silverfoxchain]

Thank you for sharing your story! You took in stride and in steps and that's awesome.

[@anooymous84]

having smoking for 16years, close to 1 pack per 2 days & then switching to vape to quit smoking, helped me to save alot more cash. I have since stopped vaping altogether. & i have never look back since

[@buku69420]

🇮🇩🇮🇩🇮🇩🇮🇩🇮🇩 coy

[@ralphralph5990]

As a person who vapes for over 6 years now, All i could say is that it’s a copium for vapers to defend their addiction. Cigarets might be safer due to having less chemical but the amount of time you take a vape is beyond the number of time you can smoke a cigarette, for example i always get away with vaping inside the classroom, malls, in private rooms and etc, meanwhile I wouldn’t be able to smoke cigs in those circumstance. Even at bed i have my vape next to me, It’s addiction made convenience therefore it’s more addicting. I’m not gonna stop though I’m just aware. Therefor we should really try to regulate it, stop marketing vape through social medias that are accessible to kids. One time I saw my young cousin watching vape tricks in tiktok.