The Banana Pie Feud Between Dona Manis & Auntie Peng: Which Pie Is Better? | On The Red Dot

[@yeezeey4037]

last part between the daughters are the best. So sweet ... like the pies :)

[@lodz8666]

100%

[@TSNicole]

this was my favourite part ❤

[@catechin29]

yah so cute esp when Claire asked "what are you like ah? I think I can be quite scary"

[@masa1044]

Well said! 👍

[@noonynoonynoo]

I loved that part too, I hope they can do a collab in the future with different products 💞 maybe develop different types of pie to really make the brands grow and have a unique identity.

[@alloysiusvoon8592]

It's middle of the night, and my bestie is asleep... so nobody to gossip with me... AND HERE I AM WATCHING SOME OLD AUNTIES HAVING BEEF OVER SOME PIE...

[@serirayna2789]

LOL

[@xxslysinxx]

Go open a beef pie stall beside them. Too sweet already need some salt

[@InevitableKiller4]

Love how auntie peng had so much respect for her business partner mr tan. You can tell it was a truly symbiotic relationship.

[@ellusion1985]

@@InevitableKiller4 I beg to differ, if she has respected her partner, she wouldn't have claimed that he knows nuts except accounting.

[@kayleeroast]

@@ellusion1985 Did you miss the part where she said that she had an excellent relationship with him for over thirty years?

[@ellusion1985]

@@kayleeroast Yes, I watched the entire video and saw that part. But some part of me feels that the part where she said Mr Tan knew nothing except accounting - this part feels. It is akin to praising a person to high heavens, and the next moment giving him a tight slap. That's my personal view la...

[@houseoffxngshui6246]

@@ellusion1985 agreed.

[@zhenghao123]

The feud was very normal. Cause in the past Mr Tan just do the sales, admin and accounting. While Ms Peng is main baker and called the shot in the kitchen. After Esther took over her dads share, Esther is also a bakery chef so she would have a lot of idea in the bakery. Chinese saying 一山不容二虎。😅😅

[@XXR8891]

除非一公又一母。

[@malibumondsg74]

@@XXR8891😂😂😂😂😂😂

[@aUriginal]

Nice video showing the true history. Am definitely back going to Auntie Peng for the taste I am used to, as she is the original creator of the pie.

[@julielow1355]

Plus one

[@anneeli3089]

I love the banana pie - it has a nice nostalgic taste to it. We didn't know that Auntie Peng opened her own shop and recently when my hubby bought from Dona Manis and brought it home, I took one bite of the pie and told my husband it tasted different. Now I know why 😅

[@bunnieandminnie]

I thought it tasted different too! Now I know why 😅 will go try both now

[@q.ueencard]

Pretty honest answers by Esther although she seems to have to tried to link everything to her dad to support the base of her claims. I gotta say, respect to Auntie Peng for opening the shop and selling her original recipe. 30 years of working there is no joke. I have yet to try either of them before but will do so this weekend (hope no queue pls after this episode)

[@kenthaha]

see u in the queue 😅

[@celestialstar124]

Definitely worth trying if you go that mall cos it's not commonly available in other mall. Each got it's own selling point.

[@jbrkjferkjbekjb]

Of course she has to as they were discussing legacy? Auntie Peng's daughter will inherit from her in future too; that's how it works.

[@dreymin]

I stayed and worked in the vicinity, and I still frequent the area. Anyone remembered Oriental Supermarket at the far end? If you do, you are a true blue Eastie. Been patronising Dona Manis for many, many years. They used to sell buns to the morning crowd, one can always see Auntie Peng, her hubby and Uncle Tan manning the stall. So go figure what time they actually started to work to get those buns ready. Auntie Peng from what I observed over the years, she's a straight talker and doesn't sugarcoat her words. I always see her just racing against time to present her bakes to the crowds. I used to jest with Uncle Tan that he calculates faster than the calculator. They know their roles and play them well. To be honest I didn't see Esther and her daughter till Uncle Tan passed away. The original store exists but sadly it has lost it's spirit. I am pretty sentimental about that spot actually, after patronising for donkey years including testing and buying their CNY goodies. And to be fair, I bought from both shops to test which I prefer, and Auntie Peng's version clearly stood out. Try their chocolate tarts too, they are heavenly. My take is Auntie Peng is the OG and creator of the banana pie, so Dona Manis can't claim to be the original. The form exists but the substance has gone elsewhere. How can Uncle Tan know the exact recipe when he doesn't bake at all? I find the last part involving the daughters as a low brow tactic to evoke emotions, it felt really fake to me to be honest. Esther's daughter is much more articulate and driving the narrative. Also which staff from the documentary made Auntie Peng's daughter wear that outfit, it looked so off, she's usually very low key baking in the background. Final thoughts, the market is big enough to accommodate both stores. There are specialised retail areas which sell the exact same items and there's no reason why K.S.C. can't be known for banana pies. I do hope both shops can make peace and reconcile, peace out! ❤

[@AnnieTan-t6x]

Agree !😊

[@ABC-ed8cg]

20:30: I believe the daughters chose their own outfit? That means Auntie’s Peng daughter is less classy. Her teeth are also a mess at such a young age. So many teeth are decayed and have fallen out! I’d think twice about ordering from someone who has poor personal hygiene even though many ppl say the OG’s pies are better. Esther’s daughter looks more well-groomed and classier-looking like her mother. She speaks better too, like someone from a rich family. Auntie Peng’s daughter looks like someone from a Chinese-speaking and blue-collared background which her mum is.

[@izzabinteismail1566]

yes i agree about the last part. felt so odd and unnecessary.

[@julielow1355]

Yes I know every inch of Katong area . I grew up from Joo chiat to Ceylon road. Back then , Katong shopping is my only go to mall ! Glad they are still around .

[@jibrasome3489]

Kudos to CNA for finding meaningful content and crafting the flow, researching and creating each segment of this program! CNA is truly a good channel that rivals 'bigger' international brands in creating high quality products. A proud follower!

[@ohhithere8001]

Thanks for the unbiased video! I enjoyed the comprehensive documentation of the complex history and relationship of the shop owners and their banana pies. I can really understand where both sides are coming from. Also, Im excited to see the future of the both shops when the next generation takes over!

[@nicholasgoh3526]

Actually not difficult to decipher the feud from the video: Esther said she tweaked the recipe given by her dad so it’s no longer the original. Aunties Peng was the baker so she will have the original recipe. Aunty Peng said Esther was never in the shop but when she wanted to make changes to the recipe after she took over. So Aunty Peng find Esther bossy, did not agree to the changes in the recipe and obviously was not happy and did not get along well with Esther. All these probably drove Aunty Peng to break up the business relationship, even though deep inside she still want the business to go on since it’s the business she has been working on since day one for over 30 years. Aunty Peng obviously would not tell Esther she is setting up another shop so she has to find an excuse and said she is retiring and of course she can change her mind as well. Technically she is retiring as she has handed the business to her daughter. It also makes sense for Aunty Peng to set up shop in the same mall as that’s where her regular customers are. Nothing wrong with that and she already explained that it was by chance that the new shop was next to Esther’s. My conclusion is that you should only eat banana pie once in a blue moon and don’t eat the whole slice as they are not very healthy 😂

[@TheManabopo]

Actually this is the surface. If you have been there on the ground before. You will find the auntie peng’s husband very obnoxious and rude. Auntie Peng also rented another shop beside Dona Manis. (Effectively sandwiching Dona manis) And the husband will try to “steal” customers that are in the line for Dona manis.

[@Userjy7079]

I love your conclusion 🤣

[@sportsapologist6136]

@@TheManabopo While the uncle maybe a bit aggressive in luring customers to their side, its fine because they are the original

[@TheManabopo]

@@sportsapologist6136 and setting up shop next to your former business partners after claiming you are retiring is good? This is acting in bad faith. Maybe they should have consulted a lawyer and added in a non compete clause when they bought out peng. But well, older folks do everything by trust. But peng will definitely kick up a big fuss.

[@Way2go926]

Are they even halal? I’ve never eaten any banana pie like this before.. 😅

[@graceieie.]

i think it's unfair for auntie Esther to keep insisting that her shop is the "original banana pie". The fact is that auntie peng is the true creator of the recipe. Even if she had created it under the name of Dona Manis, it's still her creation. So to keep insisting that she's the original recipe under the name of her father is morally wrong. In my perspective, I believe that Auntie Peng's decision on opening her own brand right beside Dona Manis was with the intention of carrying on her view of "the legacy". We must not forget the fact that she has been working in that area for 30 years and has already fostered close bonds and relations with her regular customers. Also it's quite evident that Esther and Esther's daughter are rather well off. Taking into account that they are both fluent in their speech and speak in a very refined / reserved manner, where as though Auntie Peng's speech is definitely more emotional, it's more authentic.

[@libiskit]

u do realise the original question was brought up by the media to make a story... obviously both sides need to play their cards right? I won't even bother about their answers to originality.. use yr brain!

[@darrenowyong1660]

Don't think it's appropriate to say "Mr Tan passed away and caused this feud".

[@swimmingpoolz]

i think it was quite clear what he was trying to say, no?

[@MrYololololo]

LOOOOOOL HAHAHAHAHAHHAAH​@@doccan3848

[@kindaalter]

@@doccan3848go S a D b1tch, not everything things to be a religious matter, go promote your polygamy somewhere else

[@kaffir76]

C N A is hopeless 😂😂

[@cnachopchopnewsagency]

Mr Tan is just a bad luck.

[@Iendleasereit]

another banger from CNA insider

[@ST-pb9eb]

I would say Auntie Peng is what you see is what you get kinda lady - there’s no need to guess what she’s thinking. Esther is more polished and is very careful with her words. She’s more concerned about her image. Either way i don’t really care but i hope both find peace and happiness in their own little creations.

[@annawong4054]

Both are delicious pies. I usually visited late in afternoon,, when the pies are selling out, I just buy whichever shops that still have the pie left. I just love both of them ❤️

[@Shortofheight]

Based on what I understood from the stories told from both sides, I didn't feel Mr Tan communicated effectively what he wanted before he left. Both of them have their own truths. At the end of the day, you can just support what you prefer. I'll try both :)

[@hanweitiew5467]

Haven’t tried any. But will buy auntie’s Peng pie based on this video

[@nt6253]

Auntie Peng all the way, i used to work in that area and frequent the bakery, never have i met Esther. And all the time I was there, Auntie Peng will be there in the kitchen. She is friendly and passionate. Esther is a business woman, the way she answer questions, speaks volume what kind of woman she is. Auntie Peng all the way!

[@FT-od4xv]

Aunty peng works there of cos she should be there, Mr Tan works there of cos you will not see his daughter there. Will we see your children in where you work?

[@ebonyloveivory]

😂😂😂 ​@@FT-od4xv

[@gohyta]

Esther is only there to take over the business after her father passed on.

[@nt6253]

So, she is hardly Original as she claims.

[@SmoothCode]

@@nt6253 I used to eat the banana pie before the passing of the co owner and can testify that the taste of auntie peng's is exactly as I remembered it. I will never go back to dona manis.

[@ctlow2577]

Both daughters seem like nice people! I hope they maintain their friendship regardless of their parents issues.

[@merrilymeryl]

my favourite part of the video was when the shop needed a banana chart to tell ripeness.

[@agnestan061]

The mums put their daughter in difficult situation, nevertheless glad the daughters on friendly terms. Each pie has it’s own fans.

[@emdotem]

I feel sad thay Auntie Peng only got 20k out of it when clearly she was the driving force of the business. Glad she went out to do her own business, will want to try the actual original!

[@shanicestella2226]

What a Feud , Oh my Gosh ! I watch this until I run out of my coffee

[@nicholaspang6126]

If the recipe is tweaked, then it is not original already. Simple to understand leh. Donna Manis is the original shop selling banana pie, but Auntie Peng is the one selling the original banana pie.

[@koalatheworld]

I like Auntie Pheng. She is honest compared to the other auntie. I will support Auntie Pheng because of her integrity and she is the original baker and creator of the pie.

[@rebelsymphonyorchestra8830]

Integrity? She told her niece that she was going to retire. Then she took all the money from the bank and opened next door when she could easily open a store anywhere else. Seems spiteful and greedy to me. This isn't about the pie. Its about money.

[@1965Singaporean]

@@rebelsymphonyorchestra8830😂😂😂 u stupid or naive? U WP supporter? In real biz world everything is about survival. U think WP can help Singaporeans survive in world talking about fairness?

[@tortoro6565]

They are both right and they can coexist without any resentment. In fact discard the negative feelings and build a warm lasting friendship. I would suggest to combine the shops into one with an equity of 50-50 and name the shop as Dona Peng and leave the business to their daughters.

[@Bedminton-z6t]

@@rebelsymphonyorchestra8830don’t be so gullible to believe wat they said. They only tell u wat they want to tell u. Only they know the truth.

[@TheManabopo]

Did you know that auntie peng rented another shop beside Dona manis? Sandwiching Dona manis between 2 of their units. Peng’s husband will also non stop try to steal Dona manis’ customers that are in line by trying to direct them to auntie Peng. In my opinion, auntie peng acted in bad faith.

[@Buster475]

Maybe the rivalry at the end is just a grand publicity stunt to double their sales. Win-win.

[@AL_Farah_Baraka]

Another conspiracy theory. #bananapieconspiracy

[@liltravesty]

Nice ep hah! 😂 Can continue doing this series~ I suggest the curry puff brothers' feud at the Hong Lim food centre LOL

[@ctantian]

The last part was such a nice touch. Good job producers and director!

[@philippang07]

The new gen will take over and I believe they both bring different things to the table. It’s not one vs the other. Each has its own taste, and customers have their own preferences whatever their choices. All the best to them both. And I’ll happily try both.

[@sportsapologist6136]

Auntie Peng has been in a very long term partnership with Uncle Tan. Everything is good between them. Auntie handles the baking and kitchen operations, Uncle handles finances and maybe logistics and does not interfere with the Kitchen. After his side of business was handed down to his daughter, his daughter wants to be involved it the Kitchen operations, going as far to change the recipe. For what? Change is only needed when you start to see a decline in your business or there are other future forces that could put you out of business (technology products are a good example of needing change). For Banana pies, the taste is timeless and they were still getting a very healthy flow of customers. If someone who hasn't really been involved in the business takes over simply because it was handed down to them (they didn't work or put effort to earn it) and decides to overstep her boundaries by getting yourself involved in Kitchen operations instead of just managing finances which is what they should only be doing, would you be mad like Auntie Peng and break off the partnership? Cause I am sure a lot of people would unless they are the ultra submissive kind and can't speak for themselves. Another important thing to note is, once the recipes are changed, it would mean Esther would have complete control over the Kitchen instead of Auntie Peng, effectively "nullifying" Auntie Peng's position as an owner and she'll become like a regular employee who is just baking for Esther. As you can see from this video, you could see that more people still preferred the original recipe (auntie peng) over the new Dona manis. So technically the recipe change didn't prove to be so successful after all.

[@celestialstar124]

Have you seen how both Auntie Soh (now calling herself Auntie Peng) and Uncle Tan behave and flirt 4 years ago? Go check mothership video regarding the best banana pie in Singapore 😂

[@sportsapologist6136]

@@celestialstar124 I think you are confused. That is her husband. Uncle Tan is the one at the back at 2:50 in that mothership video.

[@jujugilla6310]

My family grew up eating Dona Manis's pie. When the business split, I bought pies from both shops and did a blind taste test on my family (literally blind, as visually you can tell which looks original). All of them unknowingly chose Auntie Peng's pie. I now buy my banana pies from Auntie Peng (cause she's the original), and some other small pastries from Dona Manis (in honour of the history). I guess for those who are familiar with the taste, they will choose Auntie Peng, while new customers will have to try both to see which they prefer.

[@juRa6077]

Both versions are good but I prefer Auntie Peng. Not true that only the younger ones go for Auntie Peng. My friends in their 60s also like Auntie Peng's bec the pie does not get as soggy, holds its shape better.

[@SmoothCode]

I have been a customer of dona manis before the death of the co-owner. I can verify that the taste of the banana pie at Auntie Peng is exactly the same as when I ate it many years ago. She is the OG banana pie maker and the OG bakery at Katong Mall.

[@wheenaitan5346]

Why both women find it hard to admit that they are not fond of each other. Each wants to be the boss so just work hard to be the best.

[@huaiwei]

I don't see Auntie Peng trying to hide her bitterness against the other. It is Esther putting up a diplomatic front.

[@gavint8000]

if either of the shop wins, we are honouring the legacy for both the uncle Tan and auntie Peng.

[@Thinking68]

Seem like Dona manis daughter have a serious issue. The way she talk, you know she talk and act differently in front of partners and media.

[@sleepandrelaxation3395]

Both their business are booming, pies sold out fast everyday. It is really a win-win-win situation where both businesses are likely making good profits while customers have a choice or simply eat both. In fact, if one shop sells out, customers can buy from the other.

[@Psy_IS_me0520]

It's nice to see that their next generation are cool about things. Most importantly, it's about the passion of making a great banana pie. I'm sure the late Mr Tan would like to see his daughter and long-time business partner work well together. As for the originality of the recipe, I feel it should be about the quality and taste that are offered to the consumers. Continue to focus on improving what you offer to people who are loyal to you. 🎉❤

[@erni25]

aww. thanks CNA. the ending was really nice. good way to conclude the documentary

[@edwinedwinowm5521]

At the end of the day, competition brings the best of each other. Its like Messi v Ronaldo. You CAN have the pie and eat it. Just enjoy and savour life for the beautiful things bestowed upon you.

[@meenakshiilango2956]

I love this MORE of this please

[@MrBoliao98]

She should have gone to City Plaza. Way more clientele than Katong Shopping Centre. Can even call yourself Katong Shopping Centre Banana Pie. I suggest whoever manage to get halal cert, the business going to boom. I wanted to give my Muslim colleagues and they couldn't eat it.

[@celestialstar124]

Honestly i really hope either of them come west to open haha i love banana pie and cake or any banana bakery.

[@MrBoliao98]

@@celestialstar124 that's why lor, the auntie peng want open shop in that mall. Should just go anywhere else and her business would be good.

[@zhenghao123]

I think they are just intending to run the business as family business. Halal cert requires 2 full time muslim employee. Unless Ms Peng’s daughter n son converts its not possible lol. Thats why a lot of Muslim restaurant also don’t want to get the Halal cert.

[@pongpongjiang6369]

Its autie peng's recipe, uncle tan don't bake he only sells. I know because I was there since they opened

[@libiskit]

and who is the business owner? its not unlike any other business it takes a team to do what it takes to succeed. end of the day is quality and consistency of product. Even original restaurants detoriate over time.

[@malibumondsg74]

The 2 daughters will open another shop next to their 2 mothers … in no time, the whole row of shops will be called Banana Lane…

[@edmundtiou7492]

Taste is subjective.

[@sunchildtine]

The older generation can be difficult & set in their own ways. I think new customers will be curious to try both.

[@wilsonlim1892]

Don’t like Aunty Peng’s intention of setting up shop right beside the original Dona Manis shop. She obviously has the intention of damaging the name of the original shop. She could have respected the late owner and set up shop at another location.

[@fafa_1004]

I think there’s some unresolved hurt. Aunts Esther said herself she never come and help when her father still alive. To just come and insist to change the recipe just because she feel she has the proper education is disrespectful imo, some cook take pride in their food. May be Aunty Peng didn’t go to culinary school but she has 30 years experience in baking for that bakery. I didn’t blame Aunty Peng for setting up the shop where it is , as human being sometimes we want to pay back the people who hurt us. Two wrong didn’t make it right but we are just mere human being after all

[@SM-ul9er]

I think that's bs, the daughter had nothing to do with the business and didn't go for whatever reason and showed no interest irregardless of her reasons. So if you force one of the original partners out and she opens next door good on her. The daughter sees it as a brand and a piggy bank, her hearts not in it. She calls herself a trained pastry shelf and looks down on old school recipe. Also how can u call it original when the original chef is alive and knows the recipe.

[@noonynoonynoo]

I thought it was hilarious 😂 also it's potentially good for both their businesses because people would be curious to compare and end up buying both products.

[@jiasenium]

Who’s the bad person? Auntie Peng or Esther? None. Let’s not focus on who is the righteous one. Mr Tan didn’t manage this well but I’m sure he wanted the best for everyone. Let’s hope the two daughters will show the world what real humanity is 🥲

[@celestialstar124]

Totally agree with you. 👍

[@1965Singaporean]

One want to give customers real pie, one want to give shareholders better profits 😂😂😂

[@habbakukshen7183]

Bro your facts are wrong They are bot related 😜

[@jiasenium]

@@habbakukshen7183 bro, I meant daughter of auntie peng and daughter of Mr Tan 🙌

[@sportsapologist6136]

Auntie Peng has been in a very long term partnership with Uncle Tan. Everything is good between them. Auntie handles the baking and kitchen operations, Uncle handles finances and maybe logistics and does not interfere with the Kitchen. After his side of business was handed down to his daughter, his daughter wants to be involved it the Kitchen operations, going as far to change the recipe. For what? Change is only needed when you start to see a decline in your business or there are other future forces that could put you out of business (technology products are a good example of needing change). For Banana pies, the taste is timeless and they were still getting a very healthy flow of customers. If someone who hasn't really been involved in the business takes over simply because it was handed down to them (they didn't work or put effort to earn it) and decides to overstep her boundaries by getting yourself involved in Kitchen operations instead of just managing finances which is what they should only be doing, would you be mad like Auntie Peng and break off the partnership? Cause I am sure a lot of people would unless they are the ultra submissive kind and can't speak for themselves. Another important thing to note is, once the recipes are changed, it would mean Esther would have complete control over the Kitchen instead of Auntie Peng, effectively "nullifying" Auntie Peng's position as an owner and she'll become like a regular employee who is just baking for Esther. As you can see from this video, you could see that more people still preferred the original recipe (auntie peng) over the new Dona manis. So technically the recipe change didn't prove to be so successful after all.

[@garrytee6297]

Now this is the best ad for business - both winning !

[@khokl9288]

Mountain cannot have 2 Tigers. Especially 2 Female Tigers.

[@knock-knockwhosthere9933]

😂 My dad told me this before. He said if got third one, that's hell on earth.

[@wngyn]

In the middle of the night watching banana pies, hearing of slow food and how these 2 shops are just keeping it alive.. i wanna eat some pies alr!

[@jamesarden317]

wow! what an interesting story! In my opinion...i think things would have been different and a little bit more peaceful if only Auntie Peng opened her shop elsewhere. That would seal her confidence that she really is the original maker of the pie if her shop will have the upper hand even though she is on a different place. We can't just move Dona Manis as it is there for many years already so Auntie Peng should have been the one who adjusted. If only she opened on a different area it would be a better competition and not be a so called "feud" I can only imagine how thick the air is every single day there. That is sooooo stressful. Whoever gets the better show of customers would likely be the one who gets the right to say they are better than the other one. In my humble opinion and from how i understood the video... > Dona Manis started the product > Auntie Peng is the original recipe maker > Esther tweaked the recipe handed to her 🤔 Hmmm...is this in Singapore only? I think i need to visit this when i go there. looks good!

[@KC-mp7bo]

After watching this esp I went to buy both to try. I like the aunty Peng one. It is moist and banana taste is stronger. Dona is drier and the nut made it even drier. Don’t scold me 😮 my preference .

[@manofthehour_]

Auntie Peng comes across as very sour but Esther is not simple either. Doesn't matter, will eat whichever pie tastes better.

[@nightrush13]

I have met with Esther. She is a kindhearted and genuine lady. She has the heart for the orphans in many countries and has a genuine mothers heart. Please get to know her.

[@celestialstar124]

Thanks for sharing. Glad to see such sharing as some people actually have a bad impression of her after watching this video.

[@TheManabopo]

Yes. I actually talked to Esther before too. She was telling me she’s tired of this conflict and do not want to escalate the incident. And the old man at Auntie Peng will come and hijack the customer in the line at Dona manis. Auntie Peng has been very aggressive.

[@merrilymeryl]

lol u related to her?

[@nightrush13]

​@merrilymeryl I wish I am

[@celestialstar124]

Have you seen the interview by mothership 4 years ago? Auntie Peng back then call Auntie Soh was smiling and cheerful when she was interview with Mr Tan.

[@TheManabopo]

that was her husband. Not Mr Tan

[@Javiertayy]

lol love the ending

[@lauchoonsam2270]

Yes there seems to be no animosity in the next generation. The first generation was also very close

[@sdqsdq6274]

@@lauchoonsam2270 sure anot open side by side selling the same thing

[@arvs7356]

My colleague brought these 2 pies to the office and they were talking about this feud BUT never thought the shops were sitting beside each other! That blew my mind! (Also, honestly, if you never tried their pies before, you won't notice so much difference between the 2!)

[@lsy97]

A few months back I went there specially to get the pies, both were sold out, I left empty handed.

[@tammmmmmmmmy]

Awww the ending is so nice

[@izzabinteismail1566]

AUNTIE PENG WINS!!!!

[@Hakaima01]

When customers go to a shop, do they ask for the cook's name or do they look at the signboard? Do we connect the floss bun to breadtalk or the baker at the back? Do we know the bakers at bengawan solo?

[@kelvinkwok5305]

You would know the cook/chef if you are a regular. And you're comparing a family owned small business to a corporation. Pretty silly actually.

[@huaiwei]

We don't, because today's Breadtalk is an over-commercialised company with automation churning out sub-standard products, rather than a small family business where the baker gives their products character, and is often the same person fronting the business to sell to customers. Almost every humble family business started this way.

[@scht03]

Havent try before, but will buy both la. Support both, dont fight ok.

[@fengwei3089]

Not gonna lie, after watching this video, I went to both shops to try the banana pie. Honestly, I found them underwhelming. They taste pretty similar, with the only difference being one is slightly sweeter than the other. But overall, they’re almost the same. I’d still prefer a banana cake. Personal preference I guess. Dont waste time going down not worth it

[@sodiumwaste]

I tried only the Dona Manis one, didn't get to try the auntie Peng one. I think the banana cake tastes good, but I think it's better to eat when hot

[@fengwei3089]

@sodiumwaste They got no banana cake! They only sell banana pie it's diff😅

[@sodiumwaste]

@@fengwei3089 my bad LOL i meant to say banana pie

[@noonynoonynoo]

I thought this rivalry is so funny and adorable. Both sides are clearly passionate about the business, just from different perspectives. The "feud" is also potentially good for business because people will be curious to try BOTH to see how they are different and which one they prefer. Auntie Peng and Mr. Tan each played to their strengths and that's why they were successful. I hope the daughters can do a collab someday and continue that legacy. I can totally see them investing in a cafe together showcasing a delectable selection of pies, with suggested coffee pairings too, like the sweeter version would go well with a dark, nutty Robusta, while the more subtle flavored one would bring out the best in a lighter, more floral Arabica. It would be wonderful if they could even diversify their products to other styles of pies besides their flagship product, coconut cream, perhaps, or banoffee? Or a limited edition series of pies featuring other types of bananas? Possibilities are endless when people work in harmony.

[@natenel]

1)Being the original doesn’t make it the best 2)I can only see someone with a lot of ego. You have the boss and the baker, if the boss doesn’t set up the shop, the baker probably has no platform to showcase, no matter how good she is. She has the chance to develop her recipe all due to the opportunity of the platform given to her. 3)Question, why didn’t the boss pass the shop to the baker?Give her a share when he was alive? (After years of seemingly really good relationship??) 4)Ego makes people petty, I only see one petty person. 5)The daughter was given the shop to continue her father’s legacy, and that’s what she is doing, to her best ability, with or without the “original” baker. 6)The daughter comes across as a pragmatic person, not likely to allow anyone to hold her or her business, hostage.

[@viet862]

Aunty Peng was paid her share of the business when she left. I believe she has a share previously.

[@Drippinonyou]

its the not the boss and the baker. Its the boss and his shareholder who happens to be his baker.

[@TheManabopo]

What I heard from people in KSC. The shop was offered to Peng with a takeover fee. But she didn’t want to pay the takeover fee. So she sold her shares and set up shop next door.

[@ivytany]

Dona Manis! For sure.

[@tong3059]

Auntie Peng is way more nicer. but you are free to try both.

[@viviankate7240]

Feud aside, i didn't know Banana Pie was a thing in Singapore. Then again, I'm Malaysian. Im so impressed by how innovative the foods are in Singapore tbh.. Even the hawker foods there are quite innovative. I love banana flavoured items... Banana cake, banana smoothie, chocolate banana cake from Secret Recipe 🤭... As for the feud, I kinda understand Auntie Peng, because she feels discredited and the only reason the daughter take over is because ya know, blood line. Tbh, its unfair, if you're partners, shouldn't it be shared? So auntie peng take has to work with blood, sweat and tears for the success of the shop, ending up with nothing. Tbh, i think her efforts were discredited and the shop was given to her daughter because blood lines over a hardworking partner/employee? "Heros aren't born but made". As for Auntie Peng opening a new store, why d f not? I understand her because heyy, im petty af too 😂. Im so invested in this. Tbh, i just don't like company bringing in relatives to work in especially when they take things for granted and they are freaking not competent. Biasness. Because the company im in is the same, keep hiring the relatives but its the staff and employees that are doing all the work. Not appreciated of the employees 🙄... Dayum, this makes me emotional too. 😂.. I just hate incompetent people especially if its a relative or a friend of the boss because you can't bring it up or offend.

[@celestialstar124]

Then please give all your will and money to hardworking helper instead of your own children 😂 same ask your parents to give their money to others who are more deserving than their children 😂

[@Bedminton-z6t]

It’s very rare Malaysian praise Sg food. Thank you btw. 99% Malaysian will jus trash Sg food. They are a bunch of insecure Malaysian

[@raifikarj6698]

@@celestialstar124 yeah that was the grey truth mr tan just want to keep his business share to his family so to uphold the status quo this situation happens. so rather than winner take all everyone keep 50/50 so they are right for their own business share and it was the right of auntie peng too to create new shop to keep her share of business rather than all fall to dona manis. so this story is about 2 older business partner outwitting each other when one of them die to keep their 50/50 share.

[@huaiwei]

@@celestialstar124 if your own children are incompetent or not interested in running your business, do you still give it to your children or to your business partners? There are plenty of examples around when it comes to family businesses. Do they all remain successful when passed on to the next generation?

[@cheek1610]

Just bought the Pies from both sides... Auntie Peng's is better IMO!!

[@editsbyredeye3684]

I will try both pies and buy from both shops every time! 😃❤️

[@justsomeoneelsee]

Feels like Auntie Peng wasnt agreeable with how the partnership evolved which led to the spat. Ultimately, both her and the grandfather played important roles in the growth of the business. If both stalls were to combine and have both items on their menu, imagine what a hit that would be!

[@mamababy7708]

The original recipe belongs to auntie peng who has put into 36 years to develop the recipe.

[@laloola]

Both are good neighbours Keep up We all loves both neighbours.. ❤❤❤❤ Today .. We buy your side Tomorrow.. We buy the other side.. Happy selling neighbours... 🎉😂❤❤🎉

[@user-iz2hz2sh6g]

Donna Manis used to sell curry puffs, but they stopped many years ago. A pity.

[@eywoad88]

The best thing about Katong shopping center is that after having a good chicken rice . We get to buy very nice banana pie . Tried both stall to be honest tastes very similar .

[@lemonzestsprit]

i’m halfway across the world and i’m hungry for that pie

[@alee7174]

What happens when they bump into each other in the toilet? So awkward.

[@odechan9659]

Dang I lived in Marine Parade from 1994 to 2016!!! I didn’t even know about Dona Manis banana pie shop to try the Auntie Peng and Uncle Tan OG pie?? What a missed opportunity. Now can only try the feud versions lol

[@kent5436]

Obviously Mr. Tan's daughter refuse to let this get into the hand of Peng after her dad's departure. Nevertheless, she should have give some respect to Peng to come out with this lovely banana pie after all her effort. After this video, I have decided to support Peng from now as that is the original.

[@wongsiawee8373]

Ending was superb

[@yumingsu9263]

Two aunties beefing over banana pie... And I`m here for it 🤣

[@weedee88]

I will buy and support both. more banana pies for everyone 🎉

[@DALLEY_SANI]

I will taste both and decide 😂 love the ending ❤

[@etphonehome6950]

They will combine eventually and open more outlet eventually

[@tcmelvinlee4804]

Interesting video!🎉

[@yangtzeling7468]

If you tweaked the recipe from the original, that means you are no more the original banana pie right ?

[@SmoothCode]

Ester likes to speak from both ends of her mouth.

[@yangtzeling7468]

@@SmoothCode No need to be rude.

[@itgirl_nyc]

@3:50 “she should not say she is the original” why not? It’s a fact. “ She took half the business.” what do you expect when you choose to open Shop next to her?

[@nicholaspang6126]

bcos it's a tweaked recipe. not hard to understand rite? duhz

[@geraldlee1943]

​@@nicholaspang6126The IP belongs to the company. To put it simply, if Steve Jobs (or the engineer) leaves Apple to start another company (let's call this company Orange) selling iPhones, Apple is still the original creator of the iPhone. Orange can say they employed Steve Jobs who worked on the creation of the iPhone, but it cannot legally say Orange is the original creator of the iPhone. (Assuming IP/trademarks etc. are registered) Definitely a lot more complex IRL, but IDT it's wrong for them to claim the "original" title.

[@judekm6032]

Just like that, queues will be longer and price won’t drop.

[@huahua19]

So Aunty Peng is the one with the original recipe & Mr Tan was the partner that handled the accounts. When he passed on, most likely, Aunty Peng wanted Mr Tan's heirs to continue with the accounts (and her children to continue with her recipe) but Tan's heirs wanted to be involved in the cooking process which irked her so she left to start her own business where she could pass her legacy down to her children. Personally, I don't know how Mr Tan could have the recipe when he wasn't involved in the cooking unless he had been watching Aunty Peng in action all the while & writing it down to pass to his children. The last few times I went there, Aunty Peng's hubby was the one helping her cook, not Mr Tan. From that & the interview, it feels like Aunty Peng wanted the recipes kept within her family.

[@towerofhellasmr]

Auntie Esther’s eyes gave it away….when she gave answers to tough questions 😮

[@ellusion1985]

Wassup about her eyes?

[@celestialstar124]

​@@ellusion1985actually Esther eye is abit Droppy so it's not easy to judge base on her eyes as her eyelid is unable to fully open up

[@celestialstar124]

In Chinese face reading, high cheekbone women are more aggressive and expect people to follow their demand. 😊

[@TheManabopo]

Actually I have talked to Esther before. She is a genuinely nice lady. But the people from auntie peng has been very aggressive. They opened on the left next door, then they opened another one on the right side of Dona manis. The old man working at auntie peng will keep hijacking the queue and be very aggressive.

[@viet862]

If Aunty Peng respects her boss who had treated her kindly and respectfully for 30 over years, she could do elsewhere and if her pie is really good, she should have confidence that it can sell well. She is actually small hearted.

[@datukseng8825]

We have no eternal allies, and we have no perpetual enemies. Our interests are eternal and perpetual, and those interests it is our duty to follow. Lord Palmerston

[@hoikongmeng1681]

Could CNA do a similar documentary between the 2 Tai Chong Kok confectionery in chinatown? Tai Chong Kok Hue Kee vs Chop Tai Chong Kok

[@mettasukha9528]

No innocent parties 😅 CNA just made the pie more juicy. Maybe I should try auntie peng as well.

[@bernardwong913]

End of the day its all about S11. Similar cases like Maxwell Chicken and North Bridge Road Soya Chicken feuds. The power of S11 invincible

[@waltermymala9654]

opening shop right next door is insanely petty

[@tommyfield8449]

Just like the chicken rice shop too

[@73giggsyklt]

Just like the Tanglin Halt Curry Puffs stalls located close to each other at Hong Lim Food Centre.

[@sunchildtine]

yeah, no chance of peace of mind, seeing it everyday. "out of sight, out of mind".

[@TheManabopo]

What you don’t know is, auntie peng also rented another shop to the right of Dona manis. Sandwiching Dona manis between their shop. And the husband of auntie Peng will try to steal Dona manis customers when you are queuing up.

[@sooltoo3619]

Not only petty, its outright personal😂

[@catechin29]

Auntie Peng was with Mr Tan for so long....... after the daughter took over, the split happened.. So can tell they could not get along la... we can just try for ourselves and see which one suits our tastebuds more :)

[@miklee4834]

People are going bananas. 😂 Anyway good to see that the next generations are on good terms.

[@FT-od4xv]

Tried Dona Manis during covid time, very nice but not something I will eat often. Somehow Auntie Peng gives off more negative vibe, can feel her anger. But to say she wants to retire and open shop next door is weird. Should just open at west side la. Then each have half the pie 😂

[@natphil8377]

gen Zs and their perpetual talk of 'vibe' (I'm not far from gen z) lol. try to imagine investing over three decades of hard work (and solo-ing, while Mr Tan reaped the benefits of appearing as the face of the business) only to have an absent daughter suddenly take over and call Dona Manis 'original'. if you can be void of any 'anger' i applaud you for your superhuman capacity

[@raifikarj6698]

@@natphil8377 yeah judging by vibe while ignoring the truth, thats the type of thinking that will doom the hardwork people put in their work.

[@FT-od4xv]

​​@@raifikarj6698you know them personally to know the truth?

[@FT-od4xv]

​​@@natphil8377You assumed I am Gen Z. So you are judgey as well, no? I do not know them personally, its only through this interview we judge from what both says. I said she gives out more negative vibes and looks angry, I did not dismiss the years and efforts when she was working in the original shop.

[@FT-od4xv]

You know them both personally to know the truth? ​@@raifikarj6698