Why Medical Bills In The US Are So Expensive

[@nahelmica]

Now I understand why some Americans choose to retire in other countries.

[@choo1030]

America needs drastic measure. Like Abolish all the private insurance companies.

[@jaqian]

Retire? I'd emigrate at 18 and do a degree anywhere else.

[@vagabondwastrel2361]

I wouldn't live anywhere else. Protected by the constitution and the concept of negative rights. Healthcare here is expensive because of government interference and regulation backed monopolies in insurance. If you have cancer America is #1 if you want to live. Also the cheapest places in the US healthcare system is the places where insurance companies refused to support.

[@ida_sleeps]

​@@vagabondwastrel2361 You think americans are more protected because of the constitution? What does the constitution protect that the European convention of human rights does not?

[@jaqian]

@@vagabondwastrel2361 It's not the only constitution.

[@snowcatxx87]

Absolutely insane, the medical system in the states. My surgery was $300,000 USD in California. I came back to Canada and my doctor was like what? That’s a $2,500 surgery here. Absolutely insane, the USA and the greed.

[@gregs7519]

snowcat Why didn't you just get it done in Canada?

[@j.baldwinwasagenius...7575]

@@gregs7519 maybe it was an emergency surgery.

[@CoolDip0077]

Name that surgery

[@Erich2142]

@@j.baldwinwasagenius...7575 It was.

[@hitreset0291]

@Rolman80 80 don't you mean you left the US ~ a 3rd world country ~ for a better life elsewhere ?¿

[@Quattro_Joe]

I’ve had 3 tumours removed. Total cost to me. €0. Thank you Ireland 🇮🇪

[@kosta2177]

In US you would already loose a house, all your savings and would claim a bankruptcy :(

[@franciscosandoval3640]

Kostiantyn facts bro you lose everything just to save your own life

[@franciscosandoval3640]

Joe Mcevoy I currently have an oral tumor which I have been ignoring for about 4 months because I am uninsured and don’t have money to pay 200-300$ dollars for an insurance that doesn’t cover the more important procedures or tests. It’s crazy. Hoping and praying that by the time I get some kind of decent coverage it’s not too late

[@noobboon2579]

@@kosta2177 in the us, you would consider dying rather than getting treatment

[@MAC-vi7fy]

You pay for that in your taxes

[@billbillards569]

DENY, DEFEND, DEPOSE!!!

[@mattdelany6799]

Life without parole for your coward.

[@Mortac]

I'm Swedish. Had a surgery a couple of years ago when I received an implant. Total cost was $40. When our child was born my wife had a C-section. We stayed a few days in the hospital. Had our own room, two beds, TV, free food and coffee whenever we wanted. Good service. Total cost was $50. I also take a heart medication every day. That costs me $5 every couple of months. Living with the fear of financial ruin due to sudden health issues seems terrifying. I also heard in the U.S. some places charge you extra if you want to hold your baby after birth. Completely absurd.

[@MarkTopma]

We have that in the Netherlands aswell, what happens in the US is just ridiculous!.

[@Mortac]

@@triggerme6144 It can vary slightly depending on where you live in the country and how much you make, but the income tax for most people is around 30-35%.

[@Mortac]

​@@triggerme6144 Yeah, our taxes are relatively high, but they also give us cheap healthcare, free education (you can even get paid for studying), childcare, 480 days of paid parental leave, and generous welfare ensuring nobody ends up on the street etc. etc. There are many more things, but you get the idea. Plus our wages are pretty good to begin with. I happily pay a little higher taxes if it means nobody has to worry about financial ruin or surviving, not to mention all the conveniences it gives.

[@redearthae3888]

Here's a secret, you don't have to pay the bill in whole.

[@yurgen5713]

Mark Topma I don’t thinks so.

[@rko1095]

I am a Canadian and a few years ago my wife became very ill during a trip we took to San Francisco. She had to be taken to the hospital to be treated there. It was weird going to the emergency room there on a typical day. The first thing they asked was "How are you paying for this?". The doctor and emergency room was hidden until you passed the cashier. Fortunately we purchased travel insurance before our trip. Once we got our paperwork was done we got to go into the emergence room. It was EMPTY. Like no patients. That was very eerie to us. Obviously we got to see a doctor right away. He checked her over did some blood work and a CT scan because she had passed out in the hotel room prior to going to the hospital. She was given an IV to increase her fluid level and we were sent back to the hotel. The total cost for a 2 hour visit was $11,000. That's when it hit me that many people are afraid to go to the hospital because of the cost. I asked a nurse about it and she said that even those with insurance are afraid as they are not sure that their insurance will approve and cover the costs. The next day we headed home with my wife still very ill. Once we landed I took her straight to the hospital. Yep back in Canada and to a full emergency waiting room. She was triaged by a nurse and were given a bed right away skipping many of the people who have been there a long time. In Canada we are not treated by first come first serve but by the severity of your need. After some initial assessment she was transferred to a bed in the hospital for further diagnosis. By this time she was extremely ill. Her only symptom was sever diarrhea which would happen 10-15 times a day. She was constantly dehydrated and very low on potassium despite being given plenty of IV fluids with potassium. After a battery of tests and scans it was determined that she had a rare pancreatic cancer called VIPoma. She went into surgery and had the tumor removed. Her total time in the hospital was 2 months and it cost us $0 dollars. So even though the Canadian system is flawed I can say that I will take it over the American system just based on cost alone.

[@SS-D]

Have you paid the $11,000 in SF? Thats crazy.

[@rko1095]

@@SS-D Fortunately our travel insurance paid for the cost.

[@generalx5220]

@@watchusaiyankakaren yeah for sure, my dad always tells me go where your treated best. Got the hell outta there. Now living in malaysia working lite and more than decent lifestyle.

[@usts6su19]

Here in Italy there was a child that needed a drug that costed 1 milion euros to save her life, guess what, the public system gave it to her for free, this is civilty not letting your citizen litteraly die in the streets if they don't pay 🤦🏼‍♂️😱, here we have a mixed public-private system and it's ranked the 2nd best health system in the world, if you need to do regualr check ups you go to a private clinic but the prices are kept low thanks to the competition whit the public system, and if you are poor you still have the choice to go to the public hospital and wait a little bit more, but you recive a treatment for 5€/10€ or for free.

[@stephenward1493]

Our son was listless with a blocked intestine (intasusseption - sp?) when visiting Vancouver Canada and we went to emergency. The first thing I said was what kind of travel insurance we had and that we should see if they cover it. The hospital said don’t worry about that we’ll will figure it out later - we treat everyone regardless anyways...We moved back to Canada a few years later. Not sure why Americans are so afraid of a socialized medical system.

[@booshoesus]

Imagine having a heart attack. Then have another when you received the bill.

[@Teme44]

Lol

[@psiewert83]

Maybe you should get a job so you can buy insurance......

[@goldengamingmodz4324]

AirsickCashew Or go to europe where they don’t leave you for dead on the sidewalk

[@akeemhall5651]

@@goldengamingmodz4324 the US will still tax you since you're an American even though you migrated

[@alexkilgour1328]

I was in the ER twice in one week with chest pain. Total cost was around $5 parking, but I'm not in the US, thankfully.

[@zegamerz1980]

I remember seeing a video of a UK doctor analyzing a US hospital bill. There was a line stating ~$115,000 for imaging and his reaction was "that's almost the price of a brand new MRI machine. At that price I hope the patient took the MRI machine home with him". That really shocked me, how the US system could have stooped so low to the point where people would rather die than generate a medical debt for their family!

[@purplesprigs]

FYI - I worked at a major metropolitan university hospital - there were bone marrow transplant patients with $3 million medical bills. These massive bills are NEVER, EVER collected on. They are generated ONLY so that they can be written off as bad debt. It might seem strange, but the hospital never went after anyone with a seven (or even six) figure bill, but the small fries all got sent to collection agencies. If you owe a thousand dollars, they will hunt you down.

[@darthvader5300]

A - During the Hill-Burton Health Care Act system it was from (1) taxpayers to (2) government to (3) hospitals. B - But now under the HMO system it is from (1) taxpayers to (2) government (3) extortion practicing insurance business companies taking 89% to 95% of the money to (4) leaving the remaining crumbs to the hospitals.

[@shaw7598]

Thanks to the high cost of health care, Americans are healthier than every other country. Nobody goes to the hospital

[@RyeBread343YT]

big pharma tried to cover up a cure for cancer, are you surprised? all becuase they didnt have the patents for some parts for the cure, in other words, if they dont profit, no one gets to live.

[@J-D-S]

​@@shaw7598US has one of if not the lowest life expectancy among developed countries despite paying 2-4 times higher price on health care per capita tho. Just bcs no one can afford those ridiculous medical bills and chose to die at home rather than going to hospital and get help doesn't mean Americans are "healthier". It just means if only they were in any other developed countries, they might stand a better chance at being saved and able to live on, rather than just die from their illness bcs they can't afford it...

[@dianalastovska8386]

This is so so sad. Imagine having a cancer in America. My mom cured breast cancer and payed nothing. That was in Europe. If we lived in US we would not be able to afford

[@31rafa]

@@thriller2213 That's so sad : (

[@dianalastovska8386]

Thriller I am so sorry

[@1lori_b]

@@thriller2213 so sorry for your loss 💔

[@almagonzalez2975]

My mom also had breast cancer and I'm not sure exactly how it worked but she was sent to a university hospital and they gave her prescriptions, did radiation therapy on her, and did surgery and it cost nothing basically. Edit: we live in America

[@rineesingh8230]

My mother had cancer but sadly she passed away. Spent thousands and thousands for the smallest things. US medical system is corrupt

[@HAMID___]

Two things that should never be for-profit: education and health!

[@weareorigin]

I've seen public education. High schools aren't preparing students with common sense to thrive in the changing modern times. Most students don't need 2 years of French, art history, and Algebra III when they cannot get along with fellow Americans and know how to manage their finances.

[@tylerpestell]

H conteh Or firefighters Or law enforcement... I just don’t get why people in the US draw the line in the sand at health care, like that is the one thing that will make us scary socialist.

[@davidgrover5996]

H conteh the exact model that lead to the current mess.

[@stevenbalekic5683]

@@weareorigin Public education in other countries is way more advanced. Frequently out performing private schools.

[@stevenbalekic5683]

As well as essential services, like...electricity, water/sewerage, gas and telephone.

[@vjmappy]

Everyone: "You can't put a price on life." Hospitals: "Your bill is 3million dollars."

[@frankiecarrrierivg03]

I think more Americans can’t afford to go to the doctor or the hospital

[@theodoresweger4948]

They just did.

[@NegronJL1]

“You can put a price on life.” “Tell that to the insurance companies.”

[@frankiecarrrierivg03]

NegronJL1 is a monopoly when we apply for it depends on income

[@42luke93]

Francisco Leon You can’t even afford to die. Funerals cost thousands as well!

[@erictaus]

Wow. 5 years ago this came out, & look what it’s done so far. 😢 Thank you, Luigi, for bringing America together on this.

[@mattdelany6799]

Nothing has changed. United healthcare stock is up 20 percent. The coward will sit in a 6x8 foot concrete cell for the rest of his life.

[@patriciasalama2650]

I am a french pharmacist : the box of pediatric bags she showed us is around 50 euros. My best advice : buy a plane ticket and go do some shopping in France...

[@petersmith2040]

Plus, get a chance to visit the Eiffel Tower, the Louvre, Arc de Triomphe, Place de la Concorde, and Avenue des Champs-Élysées as well!

[@petersmith2040]

Plus, get a chance to visit the Eiffel Tower, the Louvre, Arc de Triomphe, Place de la Concorde, and Avenue des Champs-Élysées as well!

[@addisondobbins2184]

Peter Smith it would literally cost so much more to get a plane and fly to Europe as well as a hotel and basic needs in France. If they can’t pay for their medicine, they sure as hell cant pay to go to Europe

[@Juuk-D]

@@addisondobbins2184 depends on what medicin, america has disgustingly high prices where only the wealthy can get treatment that wont make them go into bankrupcy.

[@hern9897]

Mexico is next door

[@blueBruSea]

Its not a joke when some patients say "just let me die, I don't want to see a doctor". It's a person refusing to put the financial burden on their families when they know they are too far gone. Way to go America.

[@ravysaini127]

The Canadian system is flawed but It costs thousands of dollars cheaper

[@carkawalakhatulistiwa]

Universal healthcare first existed in the Soviet Union in 1918. In 1948, Article 25 of the Universal Declaration of Human Rights (UDHR) stipulates that health is a human right that cannot be capitalized or given a price tag. And after 100 years, healthcare is in 194 countries out of 195 countries in the world, including North Korea. except the USA which still puts a price tag on health. for the reason that this is Universal healthcare is a crime of communism kzbin.info/www/bejne/aKO0ZJtmabp5hpI

[@heyitsthatoneguy91]

Debt cant be transfered BUT if you left a house and car for your kid and it was valued at 270k and you died owing 300k to the hospital, theyll take it out of your estate effectively leaving your kid nothing

[@claudiavalentijn1457]

​@@carkawalakhatulistiwa Germany has the world's oldest national social health insurance system; 1883

[@carkawalakhatulistiwa]

@@claudiavalentijn1457 it is not universal healthcare, it is still limited to certain groups such as factory workers. similar to that in the United States medical only for the poor and medicare only for people over 65 years old. in the United States alone until now there is no universal child care carena is thought of as communism kzbin.info/www/bejne/d4XLeqqcjsuBqK8

[@juanvaladez5703]

And people actually try to defend the American healthcare system.

[@manoftruth0935]

Juan Valadez because some people blindly believe universal free healthcare is a good idea.

[@juanvaladez5703]

David Cappadoccia what point are you even trying to make? You think our current privatized, corrupt, greedy, exploitative system is a good one? You think it’s okay for hospitals to charge hundreds of dollars for a cough drop? Why don’t you enlighten us with your superior alternative? I can guarantee you not one single person in Canada or Europe would trade their healthcare for the dumpster fire we call American ‘healthcare’.

[@umoramayori]

@@juanvaladez5703 Healthcare is not the problem. We have the best healthcare in the US. Government being involved, and insurance companies are the reason healthcare is more expensive out of pocket to patients in the US. The countries with socialized systems, their total programs cost more, just less direct out of pocket patient expense.

[@_annoyed4692]

@@umoramayori Which is, of course, completely wrong. In Germany we have a pretty stupid healthcare system. Not remotely as stupid as that of the US, but still... Everybody earning _more_ than about 60.000€ can get private health insurance. Everybody earning less _has_ to be in public healthcare, where everybody pays according to his income. This means that the middle class pays for the poor, while the rich only pa for themself - and for the profit of the insurance companies. And still, even the people earning close to 60.000 only pay 8500€ for health insurance per year. But that covers pretty much everything. Cancer treatment, birth, daily doses of insulin, medication, hospitals... for them and their whole family. The privately insured pay less as long as they are young and healthy, but when they get older it ramps up significantly, so over their lifes they still pay more. So.. turns out that paying for the poor is still cheaper than paying for the companies profits. Now imagine a system where the middle class would not have to pay for the poor alone. Then everybody would profit. Well, not the insurance companies, or hospital corporations, but pretty much everyone else.

[@mariamm7695]

David Cappadoccia you’re on every post sounding like an absolute idiot 😂 go get some mental health care, oh wait that’s right, you can’t afford it 😂😂

[@265petsar]

I'm British and go every year to Tampa to see my friend. A few years back, he was on a step ladder in his beautiful home, replacing a bulb when he fell and hit his head on some furniture. At the hospital, he was not responding well and was eventually diagnosed with partial brain damage. He was released from the hospital nine months later and now needs help at home for the rest of his life. He and his family are now living in a small flat in a dodgy side of Tampa because he had to sell his home to pay his medical bills. His wife and two children no longer live the way they did, which he worked hard all his life to give them. The insurance company bled them dry and still give them worries of monthly bills they can't afford. I am so blessed to live in Britain knowing that if something like that happened to me, I would be taken care of without selling my home, or putting my hand in my pocket to pay anything. I'm angry to see a big, happy man like him lose his spirit to a point of deep disper and a family having their life torn apart by the greed of insurance companies. A lot of Americans are stuck with their jobs because they get health care from it. That's no way to live your life.

[@sA-ny2jl]

It isn't just the insurance company. It is the outrageous cost of the medical profession. And high cost of pharmaceutical drugs too. The 3 together are based on greed. We have no chance against them.

[@TrigansFunGames]

I remember doctors sounding warning bells back in the 70s about the for-profit corporations taking over hospitals. Now all their worst fears have come true and nobody seems to remember that they tried to stop it.

[@connorleonard4047]

it's all because of insurance

[@TheSuzberry]

And the alarms when Blue Cross/Blue Shield gave up their nonprofit status.

[@jinkiju]

no one seems to remember anything any more.

[@burgundypoint]

@ls7orBust In this case the only things getting innovated are billing systems

[@aryamankejriwal5959]

ls7orBust what’s the point of innovation if it’s not used in a manner that helps the people? It’s like having a billion dollars that you’re not allowed to touch. I would rather have just a dollar that I could do anything with.

[@badangil]

In America, It's $17 for one band-aid in a hospital. A 24 pack at the store is $2. Let that sink in.

[@albertgreen8347]

That's because the hospital is FORCED by the government to take care of people who do not pay? They have to charge more to stay open. What alternative do you suggest? You don't have any alternatives. You just have complaints and a lack of understanding math.

[@albertgreen8347]

Not Myname The idea that you are afraid of taking responsibility for your own life is weird to us. You are paying not to die because it's YOUR LIFE. You own it. The only people responsible for it are the ones who created it (your parents). The NHS is by no means free and it sucks. The United States produces a majority of the medical advancements for the world including you. If we become like you, who will create our medical advancements? Please, I dare you to answer.

[@albertgreen8347]

Not Myname Medical publications per person doesn't mean a goddamn thing when you have so few people. That's the dumbest thing I've ever heard. We do more. We produce more. People benefit from our advancements more, PERIOD. The NHS is loved by people just like free crack is loved by crack addicts. How happy people are with free stuff (that isn't really free) is just a big scam. If a baby has an illness where did they get it? Their parents right? That makes them responsible. It's pretty simple man. Someone's child is not my responsibility. Do you know why? BECAUSE I DIDN'T HAVE THE CHILD!!! Let's do a children's. Jack and Mike live in the same neighborhood. They both pay $100 a month for healthcare collectively. They both have 2 children. Mike then has another child. Now, they both have to pay $125 a month. Mike has another child. Now they both have to pay $150 a month. Then Mike has 4 more children. Both of them now pay $250 a month. Jack now pays $250 a month for the exact same healthcare he had when he paid $100 a month because Mike wanted 6 more children. THE END You're just not thinking.

[@albertgreen8347]

Not Myname I don't believe anyone deserves anything. This is the source of your confusion. You get what you earn. Why is that so difficult for you to understand? Healthcare is at its fundamental definition, -> the labor of healthcare professionals. You have no right to someone else's labor. There's a word for that. Let's come to an understanding. What if every single doctor in the UK decided that they wanted to be a private physician and charge cash for their work? What happens?

[@albertgreen8347]

Not Myname Thanks for this talk. It gives me insight into other perspectives. *Deserve* First, I need you to understand that the universe doesn't care what you think you deserve. There is no such thing as deserve. It makes no sense. People are struck by lightning. Children are born dead. Who chooses who deserves what? The idea of deserving something by simply existing makes no sense ESPECIALLY if it must be provided by someone else. *Dying guy on the street* This is a strawman but still it asks an important question. The question is of voluntarism. I am not forced to help that person because that violates my freedom. That person can request my help and I will likely help him. We Republicans are a charitable people. But what you aren't recognizing is that it's my choice because it's my body, my skills and my time. Strangely enough his sickness is his responsibility. *Doctors going private* You say that would literally never happen but that's just dishonest. You don't know the future. There are many things that have happened in the last few decades that we never expected. Now I ask again, what if every single doctor decided to work like EVERYBODY ELSE? It's not so strange. Virtually everyone in free societies trade their labor directly for money at a price that they negotiate. Please try again.

[@MrStickman1997]

At least here in the UK, I know why my family has to pay taxes.

[@joshs3229]

Hey we know why we pay taxes too. It's so that the rich can have more money and to help those rich people pay for the American Mercenary military. We don't send our troops to die for freedom. We send them to the killing fields to protect the fortunes of the rich.

[@daniby9894]

josh S Not only, the fortunes of the rich, but also to support first national industrial power, the war industry: guns and arms that brings a lot of money every year! Not to mention that in order to gain a bigger voice in the international politics it even sacrificed Pearl Harbour (secret services knew the attack was iminent) and never stopped warring ever since, not just for preserving interests but expanding it. That's basicly what any power comes down to: selfpreservation and expansion no matter the cost. It may be expressed in different forms, but it's same old story since the beginning of times. Many get sacrifices for a few.

[@lonelyp1]

Trust me we know why we need to pay taxes too. The $ 800,000,000,000.00 military budget

[@Мойевропейскийжидобандеровский]

you pay your medical insurance, not taxes

[@kayharukawa]

must be nice paying taxes to pay for people who don’t do anything but sit at home and drink lmao

[@Windarti30]

The exorbitant cost of healthcare in America is a result of several complex factors. Firstly, the country's fragmented healthcare system leads to inefficiencies and administrative overheads, with multiple layers of bureaucracy and paperwork increasing expenses. Additionally, the high prices of medical services, pharmaceuticals, and equipment contribute significantly to healthcare costs, fueled by a lack of price transparency and competition. Moreover, the prevalence of costly medical procedures, defensive medicine practices, and a fee-for-service payment model further drive up expenses. Addressing these systemic issues and promoting reforms focused on efficiency, affordability, and accessibility is crucial to mitigate the burden of healthcare costs on individuals and the economy.

[@Windarti30]

Investing can play a crucial role in helping individuals manage and keep up with healthcare expenses in the United States. By strategically allocating funds into investment vehicles such as health savings accounts (HSAs), individual retirement accounts (IRAs), and brokerage accounts, individuals can build a financial cushion to cover medical bills and unexpected healthcare costs. Moreover, investing in dividend-paying stocks, bonds, and real estate investment trusts (REITs) can generate passive income streams that can be earmarked for healthcare expenses. Additionally, investing in healthcare-focused mutual funds or exchange-traded funds (ETFs) allows individuals to capitalize on the growth potential of the healthcare sector while diversifying their investment portfolio. By adopting a proactive approach to investing and diligently managing their finances, individuals can better navigate the challenges of healthcare expenses and secure their financial well-being.

[@AnnaFed015]

Certainly! Participating in investing is a critical component of financial planning, ensuring individuals can maintain their desired lifestyle and financial security during their retirement years and also to help battle health issues when you can no more work when you get ill.

[@Supr_KILLA]

I’m 23 and I’m in severe pain all the time because the doctor is too expensive to go to even with insurance. I’m going to start sleeping in my car so I can afford to go to the doctor because I have a fracture and a herniated disk in my back but I already went to the doctors so much and I was 5,000$ in debt before I even felt the doctors were even starting to give me healthcare

[@Supr_KILLA]

And the doctors in this country are idiots. They can’t do anything for you

[@Supr_KILLA]

They tell me “Idk” as they already know EXACTLY what’s causing me the pain. “We don’t know what’s causing the pain” I said “What about both of my injuries both shown in that area on the mri?” They said “We don’t know if that’s causing the pain”. I would love to get a citizenship in Spain or something where healthcare can even be 15x cheaper

[@jiiheytch9426]

On top of this, you guys also have student loans to pay. Does the air you breathe also costs something??

[@jugemujugemugokonosurikire4735]

Sounds exactly like "thneedville" from the lorax. Pay for air.

[@duddude321]

Yes, my grandmother is on bottled oxygen. The air she breathes literally comes with an invoice.

[@ehthatmygoat17]

@@duddude321 I'm sorry I laughed at this but jesus Christ, the fact that Americans can make excuses for their healthcare system is lunacy

[@rosie4093]

Actually,,, yeah. My inhaler costs around $150 WITH insurance coverage without it I wouldn't be able to breathe. One time I had to get an emergency refill at a pharmacy that wasn't covered by our insurance and I simply couldn't afford it so I had to wait until I got home to use an old one. And I'm an overall HEALTHY person with GOOD insurance I can't imagine what other people with chronic illnesses deal with

[@ehthatmygoat17]

@@rosie4093 WTF is the point of insurance then, the US healthcare system with never make sense & any American who thinks it does is a brainwashed loon

[@chibi168]

My dad was diagnosed with cancer in the US. He’s a naturalized US citizen but retained his Japanese citizenship. He went to Japan for treatment. 100% covered by universal health. Edited to address Rod Buchan (the hater). My dad receives income in both Japan and the United States and has always paid income taxes in both countries. Not everything is looking to cheat the government.

[@waleed8530]

NEVER let dad renounce the Japanese citizenship..

[@dragunov9834]

That's great. If i may ask how's your dad doing now?

[@TheJasonCombee76]

Smart man.

[@CoherentChimp]

No. Not if he had lived and worked in the US for most or all of his adult life, then he is cheating Japanese tax payers who fund their own service. This is one of the weaknesses of Universal healthcare systems. Too many outsiders who have never contributed to the system seem to feel that they are entitled to use it.

[@schmorris]

@@CoherentChimp what if you got to choose between paying 3.000.000$ or benifiting from another countries system?

[@BangMaster96]

That's why they call it The American Dream, you have to be asleep to believe it. ~ George Carlin.

[@ENCLAVEDivisionX]

Or wake up and get your life together. Don't use others quotes to justify your laziness.

[@RandomRads]

I don't know how many times I quote him on a daily basis. I'm quiet influenced by his middle finger talk.

[@dnicole4236]

😂😂😂 love him

[@DylanBegazo]

In this video, many times it's said, nobody is doing anything to stop it. My answer? Because you get killed if you try. All those fatal medical accidents happening to doctors and other physicians that never make it to the news?.... yea, that's cause a doctor decided to grow a heart, and one of the higherups isn't having it, so they tell their own higherups who contact a third party ""Consulting"" company to "Deal" with the Doctor who's "heart grew 3 sizes that day". The result is a bunch of dead doctors who's deaths are labaled as "accidents"and who never make it to the news, who's families get paid packages to silence them and a healthcare nightmare that remains unchanged. Do your HW and lookup those, third party "Consulting" companies used by the higherups. You'll be surprised how quickly you'll be told, "stop sticking your nose where it doesn't belong, or else".

[@serenapozzatello7664]

So glad I'm European!!

[@railvlogger1439]

I thought I was having a heart attack. I called the ambulance. They arrived within minutes. The paramedics thought it was unlikely I was having a heart attack, but suggested I go with them to the hospital. After various blood tests etc I was discharged from the hospital . A few days later I received a letter to say I was booked in to my local hospital for an angioplasty appointment. The results of that said that one of my arteries was narrower than normal, but not so bad to require further treatment. I was prescribed medication to be taken regularly. The cost for all this? Nothing. I live in the UK. Thank you NHS.

[@LordJulius777]

Trash country. “Healthcare” is free there and doctors get paid dog money.

[@railvlogger1439]

@@LordJulius777 What is that supposed to mean?

[@nanoelbatero57]

@@railvlogger1439 it means their country is better than the U.S

[@rimmyrk3428]

US health insurance and Hospital are evils and greedy mafia..

[@nobodygood7493]

Hahah. You got me in the first half. Turning point when you mentioned you live in the UK

[@skashax777x]

Imagine being hit by a drunk driver and then going medically bankrupt through no fault of your own? Ludicrous!

[@illegalalien6542]

I was hit by a car last year while riding my bike (ankle broke). Billed $1,700 USD for it (couldn't afford health insurance at the time) was only able to pay $400 (with help). Ya healthcare is America is a joke

[@julianburkert7939]

@@illegalalien6542 what happened when you could only afford 400$?

[@illegalalien6542]

@@julianburkert7939 Nothing really. I gave them a payment of $400 and they stopped sending me Bill's (thank god)

[@Joseiaddict]

Yeah, I know what it feels like to not have insurance. Im 16 and my sister is 11 and it’s over 600 dollars to have us covered per month. We couldn’t afford it and actually joked to ourselves how if we got hurt, we would be $30,000 in debt. However, that might be reality or even higher. Luckily I’ve never broken any bones along with my sister or anything that would involve medical attention. We use old prescriptions for eyes as well. We always had to be careful to not get hurt. Luckily we found an affordable plan that gives us dental and vision only but doesn’t cover anything else. So we still have to be careful about injuries. It’s quite bad in general. Edit: That’s with the cheapest company near us.

[@julianburkert7939]

@@illegalalien6542 Sounds like you got quite lucky.. Glad that it turned out that way :)

[@KL-hd1ic]

I feel bad for those Americans. School fees, medical fees... Its ridiculous how expensive it is. Everyone should have access to quality healthcare and education. Regardless if you are poor or not. Im lucky i dont live there.

[@ayamefubuki]

Capitalism man

[@DomingoDeSantaClara]

@@ayamefubuki capitalism is everywhere,medical bills aren't.

[@DomingoDeSantaClara]

@Sam it's all relative,if you live in a third world country then the US is the promised land,for those of us in first world countries I doubt many would pick the US as a choice.

[@pforgottonsoul]

@@DomingoDeSantaClara let's be honest the US is a third world country with a first world paint job.

[@Dario36515]

Blame the rich they wanted that to happen it aint the 60s anymore where anyone can afford to live a middle class lifestyle, afford school and afford medical for those without medical insurance

[@HallAroundTheWorld]

As a resident of the UK never again will I say a bad word about our National Health Sevice.

[@seagrey75]

If you lucky enough to find a good GP.

[@grimftl]

I've been on the NHS. I've been on the US "healthcare" system. The NHS is better. Not perfect, but MILES above what we have here in the US.

[@yanjiangxia3065]

hi, lucy, I am a Chinese overseas student living in the UK now. NHS is a great system, even though it charge me a fee each year. but i chose not to go to the US because their ridiculous medical system. it is infamous

[@mucha9196]

I shake my head every time I hear the Brits and Canadians complaining about their healthcare systems I’ve lived in both countries and have experienced both systems listen here you have it way better actually you have it good

[@starr2870]

honestly we dont have anything to complain other than filled parking spaces and paying 7 quid to park our car lol

[@kwak76]

it's greed of the doctors , hospital and of the health insurance.

[@johnbemery7922]

People don't need affordable health insurance, people need affordable health care.

[@mattlane2282]

@@kenstreetsmart852 you mean the gov... if medicare leans a doc took less for the same thing they the doc billed them... not only will they only pay that lower amount... but they will BACK CHARGE... its the gov...

[@vagabondwastrel2361]

If the government didn't over regulate the american healthcare system competition would drop the prices down due to competition.

[@Arclite02]

They don't even have affordable insurance, in many cases. Protection from a $3,000,000 medical bill is great, but if it costs your family $6,000 a month and still has a $50,000 copay? That's just as completely impossible for 99.9999999999999999% of the human race.

[@johnbemery7922]

@@vagabondwastrel2361 how does the government over regulate healthcare?

[@Anirossa]

John Bemery Good luck getting rid of it, it's a goldmine for the ones selling it

[@Jenniferladybug]

Fun fact: I once had to go to the emergency room from dehydration from food poisoning and they put one IV of fluid in my arm, took like an hour. They tried to bill us $15,000. We said nope. My dad wrote a bunch of letters back and forth with the hospital and finally they dropped the charges. We had asked a friend who was a doctor how much an IV bag should cost and they said at max $500. And here they were trying to charge us $15,000! Screw the American health care system.

[@JohnJacobGarza]

It’s pure greed

[@hermanman8235]

Thanks for the info.this is my first glimpse inside the U.S health care systems.. pretty gory though seeing the numbers....

[@karenpff2010]

If you were given an itemised bill, it would show you that IV Fluids wouldn't cost $500 or whatever. You have to remember, you're not just paying for fluids - but for the stay in hospital, the equipment used to diagnose and treat you with, the staff, doctors who treated you all need paid as well....There are so many overheads to think about ..you don't just pay $500 for some fluid in a bag.

[@qinghancai1631]

Karen Smith they said it took an hour to do the treatment, no one should be paying 15000 dollars for that

[@LeNoir2411]

@@karenpff2010 still, that's INSANE while 'poorer' country gives almost free treatment.. in my country, for citizens , you'll only pay around a quarter or even less than the actual price.. and if you're really poor they will find some sort of funds/donations or whatever for you .. even a private healthcare won't charge that much

[@florrrrr7898]

"I don't know what people do without insurance" They just die.

[@xAnAngelOfDeathx]

Or go bankrupt as over 600,000 americans do every year from healthcare costs.

[@nomaunkhan9141]

Dying is also not cheap.

[@kennyh9226]

ignore things like diabetes and have heart attacks, 5 bypass surgery after 8 years of ignoring it, choosing to feed and shelter my family. Go to work sick alot of days but 750 a month for insulin does not figure in to most peoples budget. Medicade and retirement now., and insulin, Medicade came but had to almost die to qualify

[@xAnAngelOfDeathx]

@@kennyh9226 That is just not right Kenny, totally sucks that you could not get the treatment that you needed when you needed it all because of $$$. In Canada where there is universal healthcare - hang on to your hat - a vial of insulin is about $35. Are you in favor of universal healthcare in the US Kenny?

[@usts6su19]

Here in Italy there was a child that needed a drug that costed 1 milion euros to save her life, guess what, the public system gave it to her for free, this is civilty not letting your citizen litteraly die in the streets if they don't pay 🤦🏼‍♂️😱, here we have a mixed public-private system and it's ranked the 2nd best health system in the world, if you need to do regualr check ups you go to a private clinic but the prices are kept low thanks to the competition whit the public system, and if you are poor you still have the choice to go to the public hospital and wait a little bit more, but you recive a treatment for 5€/10€ or for free.

[@carolinireland1684]

My husband had a fatal heart attack at home in Dublin. Two ambulances came and the EMTs worked to stabilise him for 45 minutes, then transported him to the local public hospital. The coronary team there continued for 45 minutes. The total that is was billed was ZERO. Ireland takes care of its own in the public system. And yes, I pay for private health insurance.

[@Gigilovehugs]

Wow 😮that’s amazing you didn’t have a charge

[@johnmourer5747]

In the United States.The bill would cause you to go bankrupt.

[@boslys140]

how can you possibly defend this system. You literally have people choosing between paying a bill that could bankrupt them or foregoing vital care

[@kamimikuta4929]

We don't. Our government officials are corrupt because the insurance companies as well as the bank are lobbying them.

[@keithsvenson568]

would someone just think of the shareholders?! and what if thue CEO can't buy his 4th yacht this year?! people dont defend this system, the money in the system defends itself.

[@joaogoncalves9960]

0ther countries do not have armed forces that cost many billions of billions, all countries have military personnel, but Americans spend more than the next 10 largest armed forces in the word together! this only to benefit half a dozen Americans, it has nothing to do with defending America, it has to do with subjugating other countries, so that large American companies can control the resources of those countries.

[@SixCoreSecond]

nobody really defends it on their good mind only people working for the businesses who profit from it defend it

[@gooblob4188]

Well I know a guy who served in the army for 37 years and retired a full four-star general he has all the benefits and he’s now in his 90s and lives in a retirement home with his wife I don’t think he got screwed over.

[@leogarcia8640]

If EA had a healthcare system

[@downsjmmyjones101]

Clearly they're in the wrong business lol. Wonderful analogy by the way.

[@lizmowrey9866]

Pretty much

[@Scarlet-Enchantress]

LMAO

[@nishantjain241]

Why? They charge gamers for every other thing? PS - I am interested bc I am joining EA in a couple weeks X-D .

[@ColeTrainPhenomenalcrew]

Nishant Jain you are let me know how it goes

[@imNotGivingMyNameToAComputer]

An ambulance ride is ridiculous, I drove myself to hospital last week when I was having trouble breathing. I thought to myself if I die that ambulance company wouldn't get part of my estate.

[@bradleypollack5658]

Sad thing is the private ambulance companies in San Diego for example pay their paramedics $13.00 per hour. That’s for trained paramedics!! Where’s the money going?

[@dallinlutz3657]

I got a $2,000 bill for an ambulance ride when I was younger. This was my first taste of the medical system and I was absolutely blown away. I was 18 making $10 an hour

[@ToeKnife166]

You could have killed someone on the road

[@WhiteGeared]

A1 Medical system would be finally responsible for that. That's how things start to change sadly.

[@trollqueer]

$3000 for two drops in my eyes I had to pay ...

[@Jackie.D329]

My coworker told me it’s higher because people don’t pay their bills. I was skeptical of that. I felt like she was blaming poor people.

[@scholarssolutions6735]

If people can’t pay their bills, why would it make sense to raise the prices? No one will be able to pay the bills then. And ofc they can’t pay. Some procedures are costing hundreds of thousands of dollars. Who can afford that bs.

[@Jssodk83939]

America is a country full of freedom and happiness, but only for the rich.

[@hurricanemeridian8712]

Capital Gains Tax is a fun thing to try

[@yeahbutontheotherhand]

@@hurricanemeridian8712 it actually is, when you get everything else for free

[@yeahbutontheotherhand]

@@keksoslav1743 yes

[@yeah2853]

*white

[@jaxthewolf4572]

@@yeah2853 Blacks too.

[@dialecticalveganegoist1721]

Doctor;" you need a heart transplant" Man:"what is the cost?" Doctor:"500 000$" Man:" So if I can't pay, I will die?" Doctor:"yep" Man:" it is cheaper to die" Doctor:" indeed, but please don't die on our private property, use a public space to die in or rent a private room please"

[@chikipichi5280]

I would rather U.S. exists than free healthcare

[@guysumpthin2974]

Vegan Komerade but ,,,,, smile train does entire cleft palate surgery for $450 !! For the last 10yrs (that I've known of) . FUNNY how in the u.s. , everything NOT COVERED by insurance is affordable out of pocket and the doctors still make good money at it : lasik /prk eye surgery can be done at 250 per eye ( the highest tech/ most precision instrument in the med field) , yet if were covered it would 20k per eye and the crippling copay would be 4000$ or 20times what the entire bill costs now . Chiropractic care visits are often 30$ with adequate results , yet if it was covered by ins your copay would be 400 per visit . The residual copays are higher than the entirety market cost of procedures if supply and demand were applied. But its gone wen ins is in the middle , and how many more dis functional dr , corrupt banks , over priced colleges, can this society support, it cant , free market would be great , supply and demand is great wen its applied

[@user-io3zv9rb8c]

Basically.

[@MattSezer]

Honestly, your best option in that case is to commit a crime and go to prison where you'll get free healthcare that will cover the transplant.

[@johnward2101]

Good one, disturbing lol, but that's a good one lol

[@francesca4192]

I live in Scotland and sometimes I'm like " how cool would it be to live in the US" then I watched this video and no thanks I'll stick to my free health care system.

[@Opdf88]

I'm Brazilian, planning on keep living here. Strategy: living close to Mexico so I can handle those situations.

[@timytimeerased]

Just make sure you say "Public health care" not "free". No health care is free, you pay it with your taxes. When you say "free health care" you're gonna get the classic "Oh so you want free everything ?" from right wing americans : )

[@francesca4192]

@@timytimeerased Thanks for pointing that out, I frequently make this mistake ;)

[@amanda.._..]

You could choose Canada because you get free health care to and it’s like the USA but nicer and less busy

[@francesca4192]

@@amanda.._.. That sounds pretty awesome.

[@heidis.1361]

I thank god for being Danish.. Free education, free healthcare and loyalty to eachother.. I love my country..

[@oh.sorry.dont.mind.meeeee]

I'm jealous as an American 😢 i hate it here

[@midori6756]

@@oh.sorry.dont.mind.meeeee Me too. America sucks!

[@EliasRoy]

@@oh.sorry.dont.mind.meeeee 😂😂😂😂

[@asianinnorway1475]

I live in Norway. My mom had a kidney transplant in here. She had two surgeries, hospital stay up to three months, medication, taxi transport at least 100 times in total and doctor check up. All that cost her around 500 dollar per year. And she did not lose any money she got paid full time by the government for not being able to work. Trump wants us to come to the USA thanks, but no thanks.

[@frankblanco7163]

Can I come to Norway ? I'm a nice guy !

[@Dixxi91]

@@frankblanco7163 If you're a nice guy, then ofc you can come :) But please! Learn the language and culture, it's only fair.

[@asianinnorway1475]

frank blanco That’s not up to me dude :)

[@purplemamba5510]

That's what happens when you don't have Laiss Faire capitalism control your country. If only America started to learn from countries like Norway, it sounds like a great place to live!

[@KevinSmith-qi5yn]

@@purplemamba5510 I think Norway's case is a bit different than it's a problem of capitalism. Norway is more of going from a more socialist structure to a less socialist structure. The US is going in the opposite direction. Also Laisse Faire Capitalism doesn't mean that companies can use the government to protect their monopolies. If some guy takes your $1000 drug and reverse engineers it selling it for $0.01 the very next day. That is Laisse Faire Capitalism.

[@porteazy]

Clearly the biggest problem here is greed...

[@sethr6962]

Profit incentives create innovative solutions to large problems.

[@beaulong3270]

unfortunately its not just an American problem, there is greed everywhere, in every industry and in every aspect of our lives. its just something that will never go away.

[@TheSuzberry]

Ignorance and stupidity, too.

[@FarrFromPerfect]

Nah Stupidy. If it was just Greed it wouldn't be so complicated. When it comes to healthcare you don't have obviscate the facts to take more money, you just take it. But people try and make it complicated because they are stupid and they thinks its better.

[@conductiv7113]

@ls7orBust snake oil salesmen, cheap, insane margins, psychosomatic effect...patient stops complaining as a result of the succeeding permanent condition. greed drives get rich quick schemes, quacks and the sale of insanely overpriced and overhyped sugarpills if not regulated. greed gets a shkreli / 10 the US healthcare system seems to be some gordian knot that would have to be cut and completely restructured from top to bottom, with most of its elements placed in area's where no corporate monopolies can be formed and no need for buffer funds arises. private parts can stay in easily renegotiable positions as to have the market work on that...but not on the essentials of healthcare. just doing that can massively reduce costs, as you no longer have to deal with sales margin stacking (3 steps down the line a products price can go up to 8X the production costs and that is assuming the company is not penny pinching its customer) point is that that complete restructuring won't happen as long as the dogs are still fighting over their piece of the pie..and from where I'm standing, the US government is a competitor in that particular fight.

[@giannisaxon4080]

I absolutely hate the United States health care system. This is really unethical

[@hiraowy1]

It is not just unethical. It is immoral!

[@arvedludwig3584]

Remember that there is a president who got rid of Obamacare and rather introduced a system that simply says 'just stop being poor'

[@RobKHere]

@@hiraowy1 Its criminal.

[@jamesstephenpeyton3305]

Canadian here. Just had two cataract surgeries. One consultation, 4 follow up checks, eye drops and medications. 100% covered by my government.

[@aeon2252]

"Hello, I would like to return the heart transplant, it stopped working when I saw my bill."

[@unloosedhades]

Aeon 😂

[@elicab6926]

Omg 😂😂😂😂

[@FoxyBoxery]

Sorry sir. No refunds

[@danieltoka3001]

🤣🤣 best comment

[@phlushphish793]

You want HOW MUCH? Come take it back!

[@UncleFeedle]

Why is it so expensive? Because so many Americans are willing to put up with such a dreadful system. And even defend it.

[@sakhawatrahman4961]

UncleFeedle I honestly don’t understand why? They’re brainwashed into thinking everything that’s not Extreme Capitalism is Socialism.

[@leehongjin6884]

I think that the problem in America has become too large to be solved by even the government. The medical industry spends a boatload of cash on lobbying, and its not like lobbying will end in the US anytime soon. In my country, its still expensive af even with Medishield and Medisave.

[@Clrp_23]

I won't defend any of it. Half of my family is in the medical industry as nurses surgeons and ceo's but Its not hard to see its a scam.. not sure what you want people to do? If you are hurt or need medical attention you can't protest the hospital and just go off to the woods to die? It is ridiculous the way its set up

[@aryanreddy7379]

its because America is a business run by companies who claimed to be a country and the US govt supports it. Americans became numb to it eventually and are suffering everyday. Worlds No 1 Economy my ass.

[@simonw3858]

@@sakhawatrahman4961 I know right! I've been watching a lot of videos about the differences between Australia and America. For a country that boasts its the best in the world i have to say I am rather unimpressed by a lot of what I've learned. Seems like a lot of Americans are simply repeating what they have been told and haven't actually experienced the benefits of other western nations.

[@maceuniverse4125]

Me: *Gets in an accident* Person: 91- Me: No its too expensive

[@Guywiththedimpples]

and that lies the major issue. People put off their small medical issues until it becomes a huge issue.

[@emilyyamasaki4968]

Mace Universe it’s true. There are people with like epilepsy who they Put on their bracelets that if they have a seizure not to call the ambulance. Because it’s too expensive even if it’s bad

[@maceuniverse4125]

@@emilyyamasaki4968 Really!?

[@emilyyamasaki4968]

Mace Universe yeah. KZbinr Evan Edinger (I believe that’s his name) is a A KZbinr who used to live in the United States and then move to the UK. He made a video with two of his friends talking about the NHS and how the US is with healthcare

[@Razor-gx2dq]

Me: Just leave me, I cant pay the bills...

[@NeonEnigmaJC]

-How much do you earn? -$40k a year. -Ok, here is your medical bill of $20 million. -How am I suppose to pay that? -I don't know... Rob a bank?

[@r.a.6459]

Even $20 million is an understatement. There's a medical bill so expensive that it needs 360000 years working an average job to be able to pay for that.

[@Snapback601]

😂😂😂😂

[@shreyassathyaprakash659]

When your country spends more on missiles rather than their own citizens.

[@Yasinburak1992]

That’s in being world police man

[@rahbarkarim671]

The World really doesn’t have conflicts anymore. All the more reason why the US is creating new problems to justify their actions now.

[@abd-zf2gm]

@@Yasinburak1992 more like world terrorist, i mean without USA's terrorism there would be no ISIS.

[@ac8228]

That's why many homeless commit minor crimes to get arrested and get healthcare in prison. Prisoners have the right to healthcare but hard workers are doomed if they don't have health care... People have to pay a fortune to get access to healthcare, but they are warmly welcome to join the army... What is the purpose of saying you are a wealthy country with high GDP if your healthcare system is just a savage capitalist business where only the rich can afford? Maybe this is the ideal human rights the US is trying to implant the world to become. Shame and hypocrisy at its finest.

[@GorgeGeorg]

Yes. The USA should repatriate ALL of its soldiers in foreign countries back to the USA. Let all the Asian countries (other than China) worry about China invading and taking them over (which would definitely be happening right now if not for the US). Let the middle east fight amongst themselves. Let the EU create it's own military. Then they can cut military spending and use that on their health care. Of course, if they did that, then most of the other countries in the world will complain about how the USA has left them on their own. They'll have to severely limit immigration, from all other countries (except 'western countries') as living there will become even more repressed.

[@karlsuarez5285]

Take an Uber instead of an ambulance. You'll save around $2,000.

[@ehcko.]

I completely understand your logic. Though an ambulance has the advantages of getting you some immediate medical assistance with trained EMTs and equipment to stabilize you. Plus an ambulance isn't bound to follow the same traffic laws as a citizen. They can speed, and cross through traffic stops with priority during an emergency.

[@pcprincipal7755]

As a paramedic I agree 100% don’t take an ambulance if you don’t need it.

[@EnriqueDominican]

true,

[@Kattywampus]

I did that when a dog ripped my leg open. It was gross, but at least I managed not to bleed on the uber driver's car. Also I saved like $5,000.

[@japrogramer]

LoL

[@dichi3163]

So glad I live in the Netherlands. Yes, taxes are high, but at least we dont have to sell our house if somebody becomes ill.

[@Gambit771]

From what I hear are the cost of health insurance in murica it seems if they added that to the taxes they pay the govt then maybe it ends up being comparable to what you pay in taxes.

[@saltysoysauce954]

@@Gambit771 Except we don't have artificially high prices on our healthcare

[@stevenbalekic5683]

Taxes are not high (@ about 2% to income) in Australia for healthcare, and healthcare is often free or very affordable. Medicine is cheap too.

[@ldno3747]

The real tragedy is, the taxes aren't that much higher. That's without having to add in health insurance costs and schooling and all the rest that we get in a socialised system.

[@princeaizen]

@@jacob2359 you are wrong

[@somerset3078]

This is heartbreaking. I would strongly suggest to these parents to leave that hell of a country right now and move to a place where money is not the only language spoken. You both deserve to share happiness and life with your lovely son...

[@RadenYohanesGunawan]

Canada is near

[@circletech7745]

Canada is not a good solution. Housing costs in Canada are multiple times more expensive than the US. So all you’re doing is trading one cost for another.

[@aennaenn7468]

It's called extortion. Normally when people say "pay or die" we put them in jail, but when medical companies and insurance companies do it we sit and do nothing.

[@77.88.]

When they issue license to steal they do, its not hard to figure out who they they are and who the licenses goes too!

[@aennaenn7468]

@@77.88. I don't know what that has to do with what I said.

[@nikolai502]

So, if you have cancer, and are broke, what happens?

[@forastero2944]

@@nikolai502 It may spread or not, you may die or survive.

[@maten146]

Yeah, because it is you own responsibility to assume your own risk and you should not be able to force other people to pay for you.

[@interestingengineering3411]

Finally, I understood the reason why the ambulances in USA are very responsive. When something bad happens to a person, they see a customer.

[@r.a.6459]

And the systems are designed to push people into a bad situation as such.

[@alansach8437]

Yeah, where do you live? In most areas of the country (read that "rural areas") you can grow old waiting for an ambulance.

[@DV-zv4ox]

It's not a health system, it's a health industry.

[@henrietn]

@@DV-zv4ox you hit the nail on the head.

[@geoffreyharris5931]

@@DV-zv4ox medical industry

[@direnius]

Not just Western European countries, but countries such as Taiwan or Turkey have a much more advanced and functioning healthcare system than the US.

[@cakeisyummy5755]

Taiwan is prosperous and Democratic.

[@sienkiewiczmonika1161]

Not Poland. Our Healthcare is just on life support.

[@tomassterancak]

@@sienkiewiczmonika1161 still better than US, you are not paying milions on operations, be grateful that it is working at least

[@agreeableinkblots4299]

I’m Taiwanese-American, and once when I was staying over at Taiwan I caught a cold. It really wasn’t that bad (real sore throat and light fever), but my dad insisted I should see a professional. They gave me meds and let me use this little machine thingy so my throat would stop feeling like death. Which was freaking wild to me, because in America I could be throwing my guts up and we would stay home and eat over the counter medicine. And for things like colds, doctors here would probably prescribe water and bed rest, I guess. Maybe I’m wrong, but in America the whole concept of walking in to see a professional and getting actual medicine/care without paying a lot is out of the world. It’s just really sad...

[@yakiyokititti]

Yes that's true. As a person who lived in Turkey many years, I noticed that doctors who work at the free government hospitals will give you lower quality of attention and care (in comparison with private hospitals) and longer queues but almost everything is free which impressed me a lot! Also a friend of mine told me, even their universities are free. She said "free healthcare and education for everyone" are two very important things in their constitution that can never be changed.

[@esverker7018]

When I was studying abroad in Sweden a student was showing me the nurse's office and said "The school will often call an ambulance just to be safe." I asked "If the school calls an ambulance will I have to pay for it?" And we stared at each other in confusion until I remembered where I was.

[@r.a.6459]

It's so weird. The moment you call 911 is the moment you need to pay just to make that call. The ambulance itself is another, separate charge. No other country in the world charge its people to make emergency calls.

[@Howtofewithlove]

@@r.a.6459 WHAT? Are you serious???

[@kavik2825]

Keep in mind that these corporations also have lobbyists...and they basically buy off the politicians to benefit the corporations...not the consumer...and the politician gets rich as well.

[@s._3560]

Kavik 28 What is euphemistically referred to as “lobbying” in America, is known as “bribery” in other countries.

[@kavik2825]

Pretty much. It's just the legal form..created by the politicians...

[@koverpy426]

+Sun bird Yes, lobbying has its bad. However demonizing or conflating it with bribery can only be joke material, in no way conducive to an informed understanding.

[@kavik2825]

Good luck with that...it's the politicians that make the law...not us....

[@Patchuchan]

Corporate lobbying needs to be outlawed.

[@niyoleo]

U.S is a corporation before a country, that's why.

[@Laughingman1993]

America: pay 100 trillion dollars out of your own pocket or die. Europe: just pay like 10 euros and we're good.

[@MrAntidodo]

but some poor rich people have to pay more taxes.

[@fwblok836]

@@MrAntidodo not just the rich all people pay, its not called socialism but solidarity

[@DrakeFromStateFarm]

Canada: Just relax and you'll be fine.

[@SH0907]

@Vladimir Putin that's not the definition of socialism

[@SH0907]

@Vladimir Putin wrong, there are different types of socialism but they all require the state to own the means of production. Paying taxes doesn't have anything to do with socialism

[@nicoll2106]

Shameful that so many people / companies are getting rich over other people's suffering and bankruptcy. Absolutely despicable.

[@maxpro751]

No, doctors are paid too much. Thats where your bill is going.

[@sambo669]

@@maxpro751 Do doctor get paid a lot yes, but a vast majority of that money is going to insurance and hospital administration.

[@rodneywoof]

I can't believe people hold flags up high an shout, '' greatest nation on earth'' knowing this is a reality they have to face.

[@selohcin]

I don't think those people have any idea what life is like in other wealthy countries. I know I sure didn't when I talked like that.

[@icarus1847]

I mean it’s not like it’s stated in the video itself that the medical system itself is better than most other european countries, and the problem is withheld by insurance policies, amirite?

[@esml373]

@@icarus1847 it's better than which European countries? Stop lying

[@DineshYadav-fx7mt]

@@selohcin bro i am in a much poor country than yours. Still medicare is way cheap and govt subsidized. Your prices are 100x more than us when our salaries are just 1/4 of yours.

[@bishalchetri4381]

@@DineshYadav-fx7mt True..In India there are free public hospitals too infact not even our private hospital ,which are expensive, costs anything around their overpriced healthcare. Even a homeless person can atleast get medicines from a public hospital in India..By the way I am just pressuming that you're Indian correct me if I am wrong..

[@vishushams]

America was my dream country when I was in my teens but the more i know about this country now, the more i dislike it. The most greedy and corrupt politicians in the whole world of the most powerful nation. Thats such a shame. I dont know where or what paradise is but in this world, Western Europe is closest to it.

[@richardsmart5532]

I'm English, was brought-up in Edinburgh, the Capital of Scotland, and still live there. Several years ago, I spent over a year in British hospital(s) - can you guess how much it cost me, in insurance premiums and co-pays? Not a penny. Or, if you prefer, not a cent. I have lived in America, in Auburn, Ca., just outside the State Capital, Sacramento and I've been to Hawai'i on holiday but, if I was going to be seriously ill (again), I'd much rather be in Great Britain...

[@vishushams]

@@richardsmart5532 i agree sir.. my daughter went through a heart surgery at 2 months of age in a hospital here in Switzerland as she was having a hole in her heart. The costs ran into many thousands of francs and guess how much we paid ? Nothing !! I would have been bankrupt and on streets in USA.

[@richardsmart5532]

@@vishushams I couldn't agree more with you, and I hope your daughter is thriving.

[@pranesh3994]

I had a good job in the US that I quit for all these reasons and more and moved back home in India with my family.

[@NapoleonBonaparte5]

I would say Norway and Iceland are paradise other than them western Europe isn't fairing very well cuz of Brussels centralizing ways...

[@mayur7262]

"Until you don't need it, you are careless.. but after you need it, you are helpless" - Moto of the US medical system

[@xiaodidi9618]

The healthcare system in the US is broken. The richest country in the world and it’s citizens are afraid to go to a hospital even with medical insurance. My daughter at the time was 3 years old had a 104 degree fever, I took her to the ER, she was given Tylenol for her fever, we were in the ER for about an hour, the bill was over $3,000

[@mathisnotforthefaintofheart]

Because they charge $500 for a Tylenol pill, $250 for two tissues, etc. You have to have insurance otherwise you are toast when you need medical care...

[@Salti26]

Americans pay for police, military, fire, teachers, roads etc. but when it comes to healthcare. Some people think its "socialism"

[@philipmclaughlin9636]

Thats successful brainwashing by the industry

[@rickb.4168]

Never mind ‘socialism’ they’ve been brainwashed to believe its Communism!

[@PiyushBhakat]

Americans still pay a lot of taxes though, but they don't get anything compared to their European counterparts.

[@뚕쑝쭁뿅꾱]

so ironic....

[@floralee1645]

Update your news, they stop paying teachers a long time ago (jk, they just don’t pay them enough to live).

[@brendansmith9677]

I've heard that some people take an uber to the hospital instead of calling an ambulance. Saying the health care system in the US is broken is like saying a rocket that just exploded is broken. Its far worse.

[@jasontang7865]

I've read many reports that going rate for an ambulance ride to hospital is 2000$us so patients opt to go to the hospital by themselves. Then there's often a negotiation once on the ambulance which hospital to go as they are obligated to send you to nearest hospital which may be out-of- network thus costing patient more.

[@RoMayDrako]

@@jasontang7865 2000? That's cheap.

[@turtlewub]

i had an allergic reaction to medication last year and i couldnt breathe. they charged me 11,000 dollars not including the ambulance. at the hospital they used a charitable program to remove 1000 off what would have been 12000 plus the ambulance. i will be paying it off for years

[@gracenyantori9578]

I real thought ambulance in USA is free. I am from third world country

[@alexeialeksandr7606]

The last time I rode in an ambulance, the EMTs stood around discussing how injured I was until I passed out from pain/ $500.

[@fastfiddler1625]

America's the greatest country on earth.. Sure, if you're in the top 1%. For the rest of us, the American dream is really a nightmare.

[@illegalalien6542]

The American dream never existed in the first place.

[@laurenz4528]

Richard Sleeve you know the top 1% doesn’t earn as much as u think it’s roughly around 10k a month after taxes try to pay a 4million dollar bill with that.

[@parentpatrol2752]

@@illegalalien6542 Are you crazy? Why the hell do the arabs own every gas station?

[@JMusar795]

Richard Sleeve it’s dead 💀

[@certifiedbruh2180]

Laurenz Ehlers 10K is the usual middle class person's income for about half a year. Let's take Jeff Bezos, part of the 1% for this example. That man earns 6.54 Billion a month, after taxes and everything, and earns about 1.5 Billion a week. In a day he makes $275 Million.

[@nichanson]

My wife had an MRI and CT scan, plus various check ups by all sorts of doctors when they found a tumor in Japan. Didn't need to pay.

[@taladuweik8082]

first world country without free healthcare. lmao

[@matthi_be]

there is no such thing as "free healthcare", it's called universal healthcare and it's paid for largely with taxes on everything you earn or buy

[@pranaym3859]

@@matthi_be So you guys pay same amount of hospital bills as tax??? Dude you're ridiculous This way of thinking made US the worst country in the world

[@matthi_be]

@@pranaym3859 you need to learn how to read or comprehend a sentence. All I said is "free healthcare" does not exist. You may not pay anything or only a small amount to the doctor or the hospital, but that is because the government pays the rest, and how do they do that, LARGELY with money they got through taxes. I'm not american btw, I live in Belgium and I have excellent healthcare through the universal healthcare provided by the government and my employer

[@dodge1629]

@Tala Duweik , there's no "free lunch" ... if your or other countries have "free healthcare", it's because you already paid it in taxes! For example Brazil have free healthcare that sucks ! The government slam the poor Brazilians in taxes ! They tax everything including essentials like other countries (US for example) exempt some essentials of taxes... So at the end, you already paid it, but you didn't know !

[@sundinfamforlife4129]

Also we have unpaid maternity leaves. Something most other first world countries also have. We're far from a perfect country. We do need to fix a few things.

[@djrios06]

EU citizens watching this video: ಠ_ಠ

[@blizzbee]

OoO' !!!

[@nfspbarrister5681]

An south asian "3rd world country" seeing this :😡😡😡😡 This is ridicoulous! USA should be put as human right violator!

[@usts6su19]

Here in Italy there was a child that needed a drug that costed 1 milion euros to save her life, guess what, the public system gave it to her for free, this is civilty not letting your citizen litteraly die in the streets if they don't pay 🤦🏼‍♂️😱, here we have a mixed public-private system and it's ranked the 2nd best health system in the world, if you need to do regualr check ups you go to a private clinic but the prices are kept low thanks to the competition whit the public system, and if you are poor you still have the choice to go to the public hospital and wait a little bit more, but you recive a treatment for 5€/10€ or for free.

[@starvinmarvin84]

EU! 🇪🇺 ♥️

[@jacquelinefranck1130]

Diego , I'm sure you are laughing your ass off !!!!

[@nevermore1372]

After I had my son they sent him a $150 for ' presence at birth'. They billed a three week old for being present at his own birth!

[@thebestcat9601]

That’s insane.

[@bwololo7469]

Where do they wanted him to be?

[@nevermore1372]

@@bwololo7469 no idea. Him being present was kinda a requirement since ya know it was HIS birth and all

[@johnward2101]

Lol he got the discount special, maybe if he gets another baby to become present at their own birth, he could get a referral finders fee as an incentive, lol

[@ADEehrh]

I bet he 'll avoid being born from now on!

[@ursulasmith6402]

WE NEED UNIVERSAL HEALTH CARE NOW! Get away from greedy senseless corporations!

[@marymccluer1630]

What is crazy about tying health insurance to work is that if you are too sick to work, you then lose your insurance. Dumb system.

[@r.a.6459]

Corporations own America and the whole government is just a puppet to it. Every law that gets passed is only for the benefit of the corporations. Your votes never count. It has been this way since 1871.

[@rutessian]

You need the same thing as most countries: for the government to get out of the medical system, to let go back to a free market. But maybe you prefer the Canadian version: "You're a little depressed? Have you tried euthanasia?"

[@r.a.6459]

We need to completely overhaul the US Government. North Korea is ruled by the Kim family. The US is owned and secretly controlled by the Rothschilds and the Rockefellers... which makes it no different than North Korea. No Presidential Election will fix these things because even the Elections are created and owned by the Rothschilds and every vote casted, regardless of which party, is a vote for the Rothschilds to retain power and control.

[@eligreen6099]

Person-Pays 100,000 for surgery Hospital-charges you to park while you fork over your life savings to not die

[@extra_ice_girl]

It's $7 every time I go see any of my specialists. Ridiculous.

[@jusdgaf449]

$25 for more than 1hr...WTF!!!

[@miceonvenus647]

Are you serious? Jesus

[@Gonzalezreview]

They do be charging fees 😂 I work for them 😂

[@muhdamirul183]

Wait they even charge for parking at hospital parking lot..you serius.

[@bkay95]

Holy I'm glad I'm not American. What a horrible place.

[@johnsalchichon3605]

I hope you are happy with your high taxes and the government telling you what to think

[@TooSaucy480]

STFU

[@ハービ]

@@johnsalchichon3605 I'm quite happy in the UK, where our healthcare is entirely tax funded, making it free at the point of use. Our taxes aren't really that high; in fact VAT has just been cut to 5%. No one is telling us what to think - in fact according to OFCOM regulations, TV media has to be unbiased.

[@thechronicals5867]

@@johnsalchichon3605 @Harvey Whitehurst its funny to see an American saying that Europe is bad, eventhough media is less biased, everyone is insured in most countries, free education in many countries including universities, multi-party government in some countries to represent more of the population, less gun violence, less racism. And in some countries even the taxation is lower.

[@Seriksy]

@@johnsalchichon3605 I pay 10 dollars for an x-ray if needed. I have good public transportation along with good amenities. If anything happens to me or my family, money is never an issue. I'm happy to tax 28% for that. I'm part of a community in a sort of sense. True, some countries have too high tax rate, and some too low. Also, "telling you what to think"? And the US aren't doing that? If the US wasn't so war hungry all the time, and perhaps spent a bit more on healthcare and infrastructure, things would be better.

[@InvestingWisely]

Because it is a big game hospitals and doctors over charge insurance, which continually raise premiums and don’t get started about drug companies.

[@lifeisawesome1391]

And why is it that people spend much less in health in Canada an Europe (including what they pay via taxes), and their health outcomes are much better?

[@alfredoalcantar8691]

Marijuana is the answer

[@Jacob-zt3mq]

@@lifeisawesome1391 Because healthcare is the leading cause of death

[@imonbanerjee2997]

It's because the US needs a DPCA. A drug price control act. The government policy should be to identify and regulate the prices to key life saving drugs. The FDCA should restrict evergreening of drug patents. Many developing and developed nations have these. While the move may seem socialist, human life should not be something you make money over

[@InvestingWisely]

@GSmith Productions drug companies will patent a drug and if it fails trials for whatever the intended use was, often times the drugs can be repurposed for other ailments. The drug companies won't continue the funding/researching to bring these to market because they are reaching the end of the patent life. Non profits and other volunteers will often try and pickup some of these to push them to market and truly help people. Check out cureswithinreach.org

[@haoguoxuan411]

I pay about $15000 medical insurance for my family every year. Yet my family members including me are still hesitated to see a doctor when getting sick, because of the high co-pay bill and deductible line. I believe the health system itself is sick.

[@LectioDivina-zi5mi]

Health insurance is a scam.

[@theneetnibba9423]

Bro just come to India and get treatment from the biggest hospitals here.with 15000 dollars you can live, trave,get yourself checked😂😂😂

[@thefiestaguy8831]

Absolute scam. As a British person I feel for you. Thick clueless Americans go on about "high british taxes" but I pay £10,500 a year on a £55,000 ($70,100) salary, aged 28. When you compare how citizens in the UK are treated in the form of free hospital care, no charge for your doctor, often no charge for your prescription medication - and if there is a charge it is a MAXIMUM by law of £9.65 (that's only $12 for ANY drug). Then you come onto things like job security, here you aren't "fired on the spot". We have employment tribunals in the UK that listen to cases and decide whether an employee was "unfairly dismissed" from their job. If they are they company can be FORCED to give them their job back AND pay them compensation for loss of earnings, missed rent/mortgage payments etc. Then you have to factor we get sick pay AND 28 days annual leave per year minimum, 30 days per year is not uncommon and my mum once had a job where she got 40 days per year in paid leave. In the last 4 years i've been off work for 7 months - one period I was off work for 3.5 months straight. How many Americans would still be paid their full salary, on time each month whilst being off sick for that long? I was. How many americans got support from their employer? I did. Regular phone calls, home visit, referred to occupational health to see if they could assist (at no charge to me of course). How many americans would still have their job when they returned after that long off work? I did. As I have each time I have been off sick (82 days in the last 12 months). The USA system really can't compete. You also HAVE to remember that only a PERCENTAGE of that £10,500 goes to the NHS, the rest is divided up amongst all the other government services. I don't recall the exact breakdown figure but I believe it's around 30% or so to the NHS. So that's only £3,500 a year. For a system that covers pre-existing conditions, covers you from birth until death, covers you whether you are 12 or 85, whether you are rich or poor, whether you are working or unemployed. Even if you've never had a job before and haven't paid tax you are still covered. No co-pays, no-deductibles, no arguing with insurance companies back and forth and having to sift through pages and pages of bills, letters, the maximum charge you would pay in the British system is £9.65 - a mere $12. Going to see my doctor? £0 - no bill when i leave nor do i ever receive one. I could visit my doctor every WEEK for an entire YEAR (52 times in a year) and still not receive a bill. Getting an ambulance to hospital? £0 - no charge whatsoever. Even if you are blue lighted from one side of the country to the other to a specialist hospital. Air ambulances? We have those too, weirdly these aren't funded by taxes at all, and only supported by donations from the generous public, but yet they still operate. If you're in a horrible crash and you need to be airlifted to hospital for life saving treatment or operation, despite not being funded by taxes at all - the bill is? Yes, that's right... £0! Oh, and as for the "lower salaries".... the vast majority of items in the UK, especially products in supermarkets are VASTLY cheaper than in the USA. So everyday living is a lot less expensive. The only thing that costs a lot more in the UK is "fuel"... but then most people have efficient cars and don't have to travel huge distances, so the difference is negligeable, there's also often very good and cheap public transport so many people don't even use their cars to get to work or back home. The british are very generous towards each other for the most part, and even towards guests and tourists.

[@Jeffhowardmeade]

@@thefiestaguy8831 You forgot about the 20% VAT you pay on most purchases. It’s hidden in the price so that you don’t notice. In the US it averages about 5%, and it’s tacked on so that we can see how much we’re paying.

[@thefiestaguy8831]

@@Jeffhowardmeade I didn't forget it at all.. I think you missed a common sense logic. Why would I NEED to see how much tax I'm paying, when I don't have a choice? If I want the item I have to pay the price which includes the tax... not like I can go to the till and say "I want this item but without the sales tax please". In the UK it's done to be straightforward, the price you see on the shelf IS the price you pay, no extra tax or fees added on at the till. It's also worth noting that on the receipt you get once you've paid it literally has a breakdown, showing the cost of the goods and then how much VAT you've paid, which forms the total cost shown at the till. It's also worth noting there are also numerous items in the UK which aren't taxable under the sales tax. Meanwhile in the USA you have to bear in mind that when you get to the till, you still have to add on another 5% or more to the cost, and that's before you consider that the vast majority of everyday items are considerably cheaper in the UK. I can buy a loaf of fresh bread for 17 pence, that's less than 25 cents. I can buy a pint of pasteurised cow milk (grass fed cow) for £1.30, that's $1.56. I watch an American channel who makes videos comparing the UK to the USA, he lives in the USA with his wife and their 5 year old daughter. He literally talks non stop about how much cheaper it is in the UK and how much money they would save. In the UK you can buy a whole shop for £40, consisting of flowers, meat, eggs, snacks, lunch, yoghurt, bread, and other items, that £40 shop would be several carrier bags full of items. In said video this chap literally says for $40 he's getting perhaps less than half of what you would get here, and the same shop would cost him more like $100 or above.

[@krittinkittisereechon670]

Many years ago I went to a bar and talked to a nice American fella. He said the reason he came to Bangkok was for a surgery, and I thought I misheard. Why would someone fly across the world for a surgery? He said that he flew to Bangkok in first class, had his surgery at the best hospital, stayed at the nicest room, then after traveled around South East Asia, and that is still much much MUCH cheaper than having the surgery in the US. It’s just ridiculous how expensive it is in the US. I would not even dare to travel there.

[@shazanali692]

Wow, i went on holiday to bangladesh my parents home, and came across this american fella from ohio, cowboy guy, i thought he was a contractor, but he said he flew in for 5 days for surgery, so i said oh ok, so you are a doctor, he said no, he was the patient

[@basthe90sman97]

That American is really smart and wise

[@sarimkamal5649]

wouldn't just buying the insurance be cheaper?

[@dachicagoan8185]

this is why i'm saving up money, so I have the funds to travel to other countries for health care visits. I don't want to give the American health care system 1 cent of my money.

[@ghost.7.7.7]

Its tuff out here its a trap

[@NPAMike]

I work in the Pharmaceutical Industry in the US. And trust me millions of dollars are being spent left and right and are wasted.

[@melo6099]

Why? because the government is forcing people to get insurance. They're making big bucks off that!

[@russellmcafee9412]

I agree. people would rather be guinea pigs than make simple lifestyle changes

[@rackets7991]

Hardly wasted..U.S. has the best politicians money can buy..

[@melo6099]

@@rackets7991 Definitely! and one of the cheapest too

[@stephanierando3477]

3/4 of all pharma spending is on advertisement

[@ygb_]

America: The land of the free. Also America: Puts a price on literally every single aspect of human existence.

[@erickdorsey556]

It is the land of the free, it just doesn't state it in the constitution, anytime you open a door it cost you!

[@matthewdonalmurphy4103]

@muhahaha but at least in Europe you get better health care

[@randyhilton6629]

@muhahaha That's not true. Better too wait than not have any coverage at all. Taxes are somewhat higher but benefits are better. Everything in life is a trade-off to some extent. Wait times are based on need. If you have elective surgery you wait. Different countries have different outcomes, but most are better than US. You could learn from different methods to develop your own to be what's best. That's called being smart.

[@DavidPYoutubeChannel]

INB4 they have to pay for air

[@vibez2806]

@muhahaha the low quality is depending on where but I rather pay my tax than worry about if I have a heart attack, I will have another just by looking at my bill

[@naturediscovered]

This is so sad, that hospitals are treated like corporations & they can charge whatever prices. Same with drugs! 😢

[@r.a.6459]

They can charge like $200 for one pill, while in other countries a pack of 24 of same pill can cost $10.

[@macnosmutano4849]

I now live in Australia but used to live in the US with hopes of living there permanently. I used to be stupid.

[@mohammadwasilliterate8037]

Right, the national health is very good in Australia, I have used it.

[@God-yr9rs]

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[@MichaelTadashi]

US used to the the "paradise" everyone wanted to go. Not anymore. It's half hell half paradise. Watch your step!

[@yikes8932]

I'm Australian and I always used to want to live in America, it was my dream as a kid - as an adult I'm so glad I never left.

[@gabrielarenas2067]

I plan to live in the UK now. I always wanted to go to the US just for weed but nvm

[@salatwurzel-4388]

I remember when germany changed the hospital from being free to "you have to pay 10€ a day if you stay here, because of food etc" (only when you're not homeless or stuff like that) Alot of people raged alot because it wasnt free anymore. For an american, paying 10€ a day if you're in the hospital must sound like a dream lol

[@joseluki]

Is not free even if you did not pay 10 euros, you are paying with your taxes.

[@stevenvanhulle7242]

In the average US hospital you'll pay $10 for an aspirine.

[@BobuxGuy]

@@joseluki Yes but you can't get bankrupt by having some surgeries

[@Thomas-bs4tv]

@@joseluki it,s not taxes. it's part of social security which is deducted from your salary.That includes unemployment, retirement and healthcare. Healthcare is around 7,3 % in that whole package. You can make the count how much you would pay every month for a free healthcare system. It's mandatory for everyone to have health insurance in Germany, so it is not good for Americans who prefer to choose by free will.

[@chrisgwen2526]

@@joseluki it's free (or low cost) at the user level, which is what matters for you to decide to get treatment when you are not well. There is no trade-off at that crucial time of your life. Health comes first, full stop. How the system gets financed is taken care of separately in Europe, and there are plenty of different models for that.

[@rogue7995]

Doctor : so what's the problem? Patient : my eyes feel burn when i touch it Doctor : so don't touch it Patient : ........ Doctor : that would be 5000 dollars

[@bsherman8236]

Credit or debt?

[@manoftruth0935]

Misguided Ghost good impression of healthcare in Canada and The EU.

[@crushingit5128]

@@manoftruth0935 except you will never get a $5000 bill that you have to pay out of your own pocket

[@hellokitty8552]

Doctor: insurance 5000$, out of pocket 500$

[@milkncookie]

If u needed some one to tell you that, you deserve to pay the $5,000. lmao

[@sydneyhosaka7865]

Deny defend depose.

[@Mo.Jo.]

Had open heart surgery at one of the best cardiac hospitals last year in Toronto, Canada - paid $0 all the way from initial physician checkup to full post surgery cardiac rehab. Universal healthcare is the way to go.

[@jinxd511]

You know you pay for it form your taxes right? Why should someone who is Healthy and has never visited and will never do visit a hospital pay for someone like you? Thats unfair. I will rather not pay your high taxes and save money for myself in need.

[@Mo.Jo.]

@@jinxd511 that's what universal healthcare means - it comes from the taxes. If you think it's unfair, you can come over to Canada and become a citizen and then fight against it. You're more than welcome to do that. PS - our individual taxes aren't as high as people think they are, compared to other 1st world countries.

[@jinxd511]

@@Mo.Jo. Of course its unfair. Tell me. If someone with Perfect health who is taking care for himself , doesn't smoke , doesn't do drugs , and is fit he should pay every year for someone who is with problems. The next step should be collect 90% taxes and spread them equall to everyone right?

[@Mo.Jo.]

@@jinxd511 I have never smoked, I've been sober my entire life and I've always been active. Yet I still needed heart surgery. Your idea that only unhealthy people get sick is incorrect. Again, I'm not here to argue or debate with you - if you dislike the laws of my country so strongly, you are more than welcome to immigrate to Canada, become a citizen and fight to change the laws. Cheers.

[@moshiurhowlader9564]

@@Mo.Jo. Canada can reduce tax if they lower Physician's salaries.

[@histriamagna1014]

God bless my country Slovenia. Got cancer cured for free. Driven dozen of times with the ambulance for free. Given even simple vitamins and painkillers for free. Been off work for a year and still got 80% of my normal salary. Murica? No thanks.

[@michaelbishop3439]

Goddamn Elvis I definitely need to become a citizen at your country, how do I apply?

[@histriamagna1014]

@@michaelbishop3439 If you are a top athlete it is simple. If not you have to live here for some time and also need a job. The simpliest way is probably marriage. I have an american friend living here for more than 15yrs. We are a small town in Slovenia of only 30.000 but friendly and nice to live in. Check the internet and search : Koper Slovenia.

[@ChrisJones-fn6tw]

Not free, paid for by taxes. Trust me "Murica" doesn't want or need more foreigners coming here.

[@histriamagna1014]

@@ChrisJones-fn6tw And why would I go to a country that's worst than mine in almost everything except military? You people think you're center of the universe. Come visit my hometown and you'l see what is a peacefull and green piece of earth. .

[@histriamagna1014]

@@ChrisJones-fn6tw Better to pay taxes for healthcare than financing war all over the globe. We all know how all empires ended.

[@King-ve5rh]

I will never ever moan about NHS in Uk never ever

[@Sophia-sm8jr]

@Miriam Zahed because it's free theres always long waits because serious cases might come in and take the slot of time increasing waiting for an hour or more for me waiting there with like a small migraine or something lol

[@Sophia-sm8jr]

@Miriam Zahed or another context u many have ment moan in the uk can also mean to complain 😂

[@katiePetsy]

If you live in England or Wales moan away. Don't let the tories strip down your NHS further!

[@0000-z4z]

@@Sophia-sm8jr UK: let's brexit to kik out all Eastern Europeans! Polish nurse: leaves country UK: surprised Pikachu face

[@Kfffu]

NHS has top infrastructure but garbage doctors who google your diagnostic (happened to me) or the ones who can barely could speak a decent english (a lot). So in conclusion nothing is perfect in this world...

[@elizabeth4275]

How could all of the Americans are okay with this stupid healthcare system?I don’t know if I made a wrong decision moving to this Country.struggling with insurance and medical costs here now that I never had in my life

[@cam609lee]

Switch to a plan with low premiums / high deductibles and just start interacting with private practice doctors one-to-one, person-to-person. Look up direct patient care or concierge doctors. They won't get you everything, but a good family medicine doctor can go a long way. None of the absurd hospital costs, medical billing, etc. will apply if you just pay directly. I come from a more rural area where everyone knows everyone else. This is how I've grown up doing it. Every single interaction with a health provider has been outside of the insurance web of lies. Good luck to you and stay healthy!

[@a1vin525]

CNBC: "The insurance healthcare system doesn't work." Bernie Sanders: "Let's replace the insurance system with something that is used in most other nations." CNBC: "Don't touch the health insurance system!"

[@jackschubert1045]

A1vin healthcare should be a cooperative owned by the people who work in it, one of the few things that should be

[@ShadowTheNinjaKitty]

Some people just argue that we don’t need to completely make healthcare public. If we could lower the healthcare costs by changing our current system, we could still keep private insurance. There’s multiple ways to solve this problem. We just need politicians to start acting

[@davidgafo]

@@ShadowTheNinjaKitty They won't because they are financed by these crooks.

[@spaceycakey1987]

@@ShadowTheNinjaKitty the government runs your police your fire service your public schools whats the difference with healthcare your citizens should be safe educated and healthy

[@God-yr9rs]

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[@PortersX2Ray]

Bro not four thousand, not 4 hundred thousand, 4 MILLION dollars. They save your life just so you have to pay them back every day for the rest of it

[@usts6su19]

Here in Italy there was a child that needed a drug that costed 1 milion euros to save her life, guess what, the public system gave it to her for free, this is civilty not letting your citizen litteraly die in the streets if they don't pay 🤦🏼‍♂️😱, here we have a mixed public-private system and it's ranked the 2nd best health system in the world, if you need to do regualr check ups you go to a private clinic but the prices are kept low thanks to the competition whit the public system, and if you are poor you still have the choice to go to the public hospital and wait a little bit more, but you recive a treatment for 5€/10€ or for free.

[@paull3179]

They should have gone across the border and it would have cost about $100k and the insurance company would have paid it in full.

[@dannylengyel5830]

@@paull3179 How do you know that? Only if the policy allows it which I doubt.

[@paull3179]

@@dannylengyel5830 If it does not it is still cheap to pay vs paying to a US hospital. Many Americans go to the top tourist hospitals in India.

[@halokora7302]

@@usts6su19 who is first?

[@morninboy]

A friend of mine is a brilliant Oncologist. She is constantly going to conferences as one of the main speakers. After graduating from medical school she was sought after by many American hospitals but turned them all down. She told me she did not want to refuse someone care because they did not have forty thousand dollars. Canada gets to keep her thank you.

[@AkimboFennec]

That is a true doctor

[@squidjames7735]

Canada deserves her

[@claysiecross4952]

Lol they don’t refuse anyone medical care , they let you go home,wait till that bill comes in the mail . They’ll service you alright 😅

[@sadpanda3431]

That person is a hero. RESPECT

[@morninboy]

@comment sense common nonsense that makes no sense

[@Miakara938]

Health care is such a complex problem that only 29 from 30 Industrialized countries managed to solve it

[@jadiecakes3241]

Everyone else "we have free healthcare" Americans "yeah but taxes!!" Everyone else "the portion of our tax going to health care is half what you pay for private insurance" Americans "TAXXEESSSSSSS" Everyone else "your going to save money long term" Americans "TAXES THAT BENEFIT OTHERS AHHH"

[@scm24]

many folks from other countries, that can afford it, have supplemental insurance....US has alotta fraud & liability insurance baked in...hence, the massive bills/high insurance....

[@buildingabout3505]

tax rate in romania for the employee is 48% of the gross wage. i would prefer to pay 10%-15% like you pay there

[@randyhilton6629]

@@buildingabout3505 The Personal Income Tax Rate in Romania stands at 10 percent. Personal Income Tax Rate in Romania averaged 24.85 percent from 1995 until 2020, reaching an all time high of 48 percent in 1998 and a record low of 10 percent in 2018.

[@buildingabout3505]

@@randyhilton6629 social insurance, add 25% , state health insurance 10% , that income tax 10% and work insurance contributions , 2.25 %. Overall... 47.25%, rounded by me to 48% . accace.com/payroll-calculator-romania/

[@buildingabout3505]

@@randyhilton6629 you can't opt out of any of the taxes mentioned.

[@ironmantis25]

America is like a 3rd world country that's run by rich corporations.

[@jinxd511]

i didn''t know 3rd world countries offer you 10$ hour minimal wage.

[@ironmantis25]

@@jinxd511 Some politicians wanted to eliminate the minimum wage.

[@jinxd511]

@@ironmantis25 so? there is no minimum wage is several EU countries so what?

[@ironmantis25]

@@jinxd511 Those countries also have universal healthcare.

[@mattlane2282]

@@jinxd511 lol they do have suicide nets however

[@CorneliusSchwarzenstein]

Americans: "Help! We can't afford medical treatment!" Also Americans: "Free medical treatment? - No way! That’d be socialism!"

[@ocnus1.61]

If libraries didn't already exist, they would call that socialism too. Right wing fascists are shadow boxing specters.

[@CorneliusSchwarzenstein]

@@ocnus1.61 Wait! The US lend books to people for free, without paying the author, but refuse to provide medical treatment for those who would die without?

[@michaelbujaki2462]

Socialism means that the government takes care of its citizens. It does not mean that we can't choose where we work.

[@pepinillorick5741]

Thats what they always say, and they called themselves "free". I'll laugth in their faces, even a 3rd world country has better education and Healthcare

[@CommanderCodey]

Actually that’s republicans with that mindset. Most democrats support Medicare for all. Also known as socialized Medicare.

[@a.i.m4242]

5 years later, nothing as changed.

[@tomatobrush3283]

US healthcare is way over priced, I saw an itemised bill from the US once and it had surgical gloves listed for $500. How can they sleep at night charging $500 for surgical gloves. They should be forced to offer patients a quote up front so that they can shop around and pick the hospital that doesn't charge $500 for surgical gloves.

[@tomatobrush3283]

It would be wise to find out before hand how much hospitals charge for things so that you know in an emergency which hospital you want to go to based on their pricing. Just like if you need a plumber you get a quote and they bill you afterwards. It should be no different in an emergency situation. Hospitals in the US rely on people not knowing the pricing and then bill them ridiculous amounts after the fact. This is no different than requesting a plumbing and not requesting a quote and then moaning about the bill afterwards. In South Africa they have a decent private healthcare system (surprising yes) but their private healthcare is some of the best in the world. It is just most of the population do not pay for private healthcare because they don't have any money. My mother flew from the UK for cosmetic surgery to south africa to have the surgery because it was cheaper than the UK even including the flight costs. In South Africa they have private healthcare with insurance but the prices are not astronomical, they are just reasonably priced. So it is possible to have high quality reasonably priced private health care, as they have it in south african and I am sure other countries as well. Usually people in the UK fly to Spain to have healthcare on the cheap, just my mother was dealing with business in SA at the time so it made sense to do it there. Interestingly in SA generic medicine is sold unofficially by GP. GPs in SA are quite affordable as well and very efficient. Don't get me wrong there are still rip off doctors in SA, just in general the private healthcare is affordable and of a high international standard.

[@tomatobrush3283]

My point is that over priced private healthcare is a problem in US and not every where that private healthcare exists. The US does have the highest healthcare innovation rates though, so that might explain the high costs, well partially. Even in the UK despite the NHS, I have private healthcare costs me about £100 per month (work benefit). I pay about £200 excess per year. This covers me for private healthcare. I can get operations privately and so on. The thing is when I go to private health care, I am not getting charged US prices, they are much more reasonable. So this over priced private healthcare problem is some what unique to the USA. Whether the USA has free healthcare or not, it may not affect the cost of private healthcare and if it is the "free" healthcare is going to be anything like Canada or UK, which is likely, then there will be wait times through the roof and low innovation and low quality healthcare. If you were wise you would hold on to your private healthcare even if/when the USA gets "free" healthcare. If I am dying I would rather rely on private healthcare in the UK, than the NHS. To be honest, if the woman in the video had to rely on "free" healthcare, her child would be probably passed on. One thing that surprises me is that Insurance companies in the USA don't moan about the high prices. The only explanation is that they are in bed with the healthcare industry. If I had to go to a doctor in the UK (private) and he said £30000 for a CT scan when it should cost £600. My insurance would be on the phone to them and taking legal action immediately.

[@MSK-qy1tj]

@@tomatobrush3283 healthcare should be entirely free

[@johnnycyborg9145]

I totally Agree. They have 100% a price-list that they rely on, so that should be 100% publically available for everybody at any time. But some people doesnt want you to know so they can slip the bill and price under the radar.

[@tomatobrush3283]

@Malthe Knudsen healthcare is never free, people just pay for it through high taxes rather than directly.

[@shakrazj]

It's not only greedy, it's downright evil.

[@roxymang1]

My dad quit his job to start his business and one week after my sister was diagnosed with cancer. So grateful for the Canadian medical system that kept our family from going bankrupt

[@ShellCyan]

I’m starting believe that any American media or person that insults Canada might be jealous. It makes no sense a country that rich or claims to be a 1st world country expects its citizens to pay such a hefty bills just for an ambulance... There’s no charge for ambulance even in the UK.

[@r.a.6459]

@@ShellCyan in the States they'll charge you for _calling_ the ambulance, the ambulance and the call are charged separately

[@CCP-Lies]

@@r.a.6459 they really treated their patients like customer huh????

[@r.a.6459]

@@CCP-Lies Absolutely

[@justthecousinoftheguywitho2337]

US Americans have to pay for medical treatments or ambulances although they get paid less than Europeans on average. And even Europeans get free ambulance rides or treatments... Logic much?

[@cynicalretiree]

Ny nursing ER instructor told us homelessness in USA is one critical illness and two paychecks away.