After UnitedHealthcare CEO Killing, Doctors Speak Out | WSJ

[@wsj]

Doctors say dealing with health insurers is only getting worse: on.wsj.com/3Br4kEm

[@JacobBOKC-v6f]

The top donor to to the US Chamber of Commerce is the private health insurance industry. Congress is owned by the wealthy lobby, which is why they won't fix the system. Talk about money in politics before anything else.

[@MuhammadakbarAK47]

We need universal healthcare. Like in Canada, Germany, Japan, France, Israel . And I don't care if that policy was fist Introduced by the communist Soviet Union.

[@MuhammadakbarAK47]

@@wsj We need universal healthcare. Like in Canada, Germany, Japan, France, Israel . And I don't care if that policy was fist Introduced by the communist Soviet Union.

[@MrJedBuddy]

@@JacobBOKC-v6fI know, someone needs to stand up for these non wealthy doctors and surgeons

[@kidusgetachew9215]

Hmmm, I thought the Doc's response's would have been apprehensive, apparently everybody agrees on this. Interesting!

[@DarkcIoud1111.]

If a doctor says you need a test or a medication and insurance companies are saying you don't, they are basically making medical decisions without a license.

[@sylvariatzaka]

Yeah that makes 0 sense to me. I'd love to know the politician that passed the bill that let them do that, and when.

[@donh215]

Correct, except the insurance companies outsource the decision to “an independent 3rd party” to relieve themselves of this liability

[@jzm2293]

Yeah it's technically illegal just not on paper which is the messed up thing cause they probably have 0 knowledge of how the medical system works

[@PomaReign]

is that why the government is taking aways doctor's licenses for fraud?

[@cyan_wings5420]

"Do you have a medical license?" "Vell, no. But I von't charge you insurance" "Start the procedure, Doc." **Flips on medi-beam**

[@TwicebakedJake]

The problem is that the insurance company's goals don't align with yours. You dying before getting coverage is a huge win for them. They literally do not want you to live.

[@sloaiza81]

Not true at all. What they really want is you to live and keep paying while they deny all care. They want you to live in pain as long as possible. Torture.

[@G73Server]

@@sloaiza81the fact that these are the two options is just mindblowing for a person with universal healthcare 💀

[@FauziNew-kj7xq]

My country doesnt realy have insurance, but our healthcare still affordable without insurance inflating the price astronomically

[@isomarulor]

@@sloaiza81both of you are right. When you are healthy they want you to live forever to pay the premium when you about to die they would rather have you death than paying the bill. They are not into insurance business this is just mafia business

[@johns1600]

It's insane, other countries goal with money is to improve cancer outcomes and life expectancy. For these companies its profit, healthcare isn't something you should be making profit from delivering to the masses

[@amandacollyer645]

I had no idea how bad it was until my brother was paralyzed in an accident. Surgeon, Internal MD, RNs, PT and OT were all involved in multiple calls / meetings with insurance for months to get him a WHEELCHAIR

[@jimarcher5255]

Same experience with my brother. We bought him a used self propelled chair and some 5 months later we got an approval from the insurance company.

[@andresgarciacastro1783]

Soo productive!!! Private healthcare is a scam

[@stockjonebills]

This is pretty common. You don't realize it until faced with a medical crisis or dealing with elderly care for loved ones. It is abhorrent how bad it is.

[@amronemhb]

That’s disgusting !

[@MangaGamified]

Probably the only con for such vast land such as USA, in the philippines, you can just ask someone in socmed for ANY wheelchair and its there in two days, if the lender is not busy it's there in a day. The cons I see in USA is some of its culture, it's so easy to sue and gov pays for it most if not all of it that, no one lends a wheelchair or improvise one cause the user might be overweight, accident happen and get sued. If you're in the philippines, at worst no one has one or has the time & logistics fast enough, you can have a 30 min drive to a Mall and find a

[@Macckk100]

My mom died because she was denied seeing a gynecologist. She had suspicion that she had cancer and it was diagnosed at stage three cervical cancer. We had $20k of medical debt. I hope things change for the better. Medical negligence is far too common. I miss her everyday!

[@stephenkolostyak4087]

// We had $20,000k of medical debt// 20,000k is 20,000,000

[@paranoidhumanoid]

In English, 1K = 1*1,000 or 1,000, therefore $20K = 20,000.

[@MasterRoss-sn7dl]

She wasn’t denied seeing a gynecologist, it’s just insurance wouldn’t pay for it. Is that what you mean?

[@amarug]

As a Swiss this sounds like a black mirror episode. Here everyone gets all the care that is necessary. Privates just have more choices about the hospital, single rooms etc. But it's never a question about suffering from a condition that needs care.

[@mattsocal2010]

Public medical care is a whole lot easier to do when you have about 12 people living in your country. Larger scale = larger problems.

[@mrskillerchicken]

@@mattsocal2010in germany the same thing: you get treatment if you need it. germany is 10x bigger than switzerland and has 82million people living. every state in america should be able to manage their inhabitants, thats why america has a federal system ;)

[@isay207]

Same in Canada🇨🇦

[@filipavieira8794]

@@mattsocal2010the US has a larger populations, but it also has more resources than most small countries. The size of the population is not the problem.

[@Codeandventure]

What if a US citizen travels there and has a health issue? Or wants to move there with an existing health issue?

[@YouCanCallMeReTro]

Prior authorization made me waste months of time spent every day in agony waiting for approval for a 30-minute treatment.

[@charliebrown555]

That is unconscionable. Shame of the for profit health insurers.

[@MalachiMalach]

Do you know that Jesus loves you? He gave up his life and died on the cross to set us free from sin and gave us the opportunity to have everlasting life with him in heaven. Jesus is waiting for you with his loving arms. Please repent before it's too late. Godbless.

[@loudelement]

@@MalachiMalach😂😂

[@jbutler8585]

And over all that time, the only doctor who ever glanced at your case is the one who submitted it in the first place. Plenty of accountants and lawyers, zero doctors or people with any medical knowledge.

[@bb_ghosty]

I’ve lost 5 years of my life, unable to work, unable to go 99% of places, unable to see people or live my life. I’m living in agony every day, waiting as my doctor continues to fight insurance. I’m in my late 20s and am dying.

[@anh1192]

Pharmacist here. The amount of Prior Auths we have to send to Dr's offices is ridiculous nowadays. Why does the Doctor who went through all that education and training need to explain to an insurance company why they have to be on a life-saving medication?! Their diagnosis should be enough. DELAY and DENY is right. Drug companies and therefore the FDA is most definitely in cahoots with these ins. companies.

[@theloniousm4337]

You are of the mistaken belief that just because you go through 4 yrs med school plus x more years for a specialization that you are some sort of altruistic angel. The reality is doctors get paid based on the number of billable procedures they do in their specialty. More procedures means much more money and that is what most doctors are interested in. Conversely insurance companies are left being the firewall to protect patients for unnecessary procedures and meds. Think of it as a second professional opinion. I've seen doctors do procedures that could have been fixed with therapy and I've also seen doctors dole out meds like they are candy including hydro morphs. The healthcare system is f'ed all right but it isn't a single source of f. As a pharmacist you should know that your knowledge of meds and their effects far exceeds doctors knowledge.

[@stampedetrail2003]

Also, the doctor has a special relationship with the patient. The insurance company goon doctor or nurse or stooge or whatever person they use to deny a legally obligated claim, does not. This is practicing without a license and it is a crime that should result in prison time.

[@stampedetrail2003]

@@theloniousm4337 Insurance companies don't have the right to make those calls. What they're doing is criminal.

[@gund89123]

@@theloniousm4337 so insurance companies have doctored reviewing procedures ?

[@SK-lt1so]

They tell patients, "the delay is because your doctor didn't complete the PA", when THEY created the PA form to begin with! They tell the patient, "your doctor didn't give us enough information"-then they should do what all doctors do, complete a history and physical on the patient, before making a decision on patient care! Vile

[@sw5117]

Profiting off of people’s illness. These people need to wake up! We are sick of insurance companies denying what we pay for!

[@u2mister17]

Obamacare made Private insurance companies pay for uninsured people. Blame the commies.

[@MrJedBuddy]

If you actually paid you it, there would be no need to deny it

[@plantsplantz2116]

Maybe this is a suggestion or even just 2 cent: System Make it easier to become doctors. More doctors so lower salaries... So cheaper to see doctor 😮😮

[@sharonjensen3016]

It's just wrong.

[@stampedetrail2003]

It's simple criminal fraud, and the entire industry is dependent on it.

[@beyondresearch8042]

How is this simply not FRAUD??

[@ludicrousspeeds4938]

It’s not fraud because politicians allow it. At least that’s what they think.

[@isay207]

It is

[@maggoteater2290]

Same way that Wallstreet companys get bailed out when they scam the whole world

[@christopheklinger3217]

It’s terrorism !

[@furlosifurfox5794]

the law doesn't apply to billon dollar corporations... simple as

[@CanterlotCrusader]

I knew it was bad, but I had no idea that it wasn't always this bad. To hear that doctors didn't have this level of issue even ten years ago is shocking, really putting into perspective how low standards have become where everyone knows our Healthcare system is terrible and corrupt, but no idea how low it goes because it keeps getting worse every day.

[@cameronspence4977]

Yeah. That's why all these people who are saying we need to completely get rid of this system and go to socialized medicine don't know what they're talking about. It used to work fine, for 99% of the time, American healthcare was one of if not the best in the world before all these healthcare corporations were allowed to merge and buy each other to an enormous size, then gathered enough power to buy out politicians and entrench their power to a ridiculous degree

[@trixiebewitched]

Yeah it genuinely was never this bad. I remember never being denied mri's, xrays, any medications, etc. Im with the same insurance still and they're denying everything but my ssri medication. I need an MRI for a possible tumor before i can get the biopsy, they denied my mri 6 times saying its not necessary. The last time i tried to schedule it, they never denied it, but they didnt approve of it until the day of my mri, THE DAY AFTER I WAS TOLD BY THE IMAGING FACILITY THAT I NEEDED TO CANCEL AS I DIDNT HAVE INSURANCE APPROVAL.

[@foxylovelace2679]

Finally some real journalism that isn't sucking up to corporate interests.

[@jp5858-i8o]

A breath of fresh air!

[@quinnisbored]

For real I can’t believe it’s coming from WALL STREET journal of all places

[@r.leeryan8755]

i know right, and coming from the WSJ. I paid for a subscription after reading their Medicare piece

[@lyricvids2964]

100% all the other papers seem to be bought out by ceos or something

[@Lilly24244]

The immediate framing is to condemn the actions of the shooter. This is very much sucking up to corporate interests, just not clearly enough to drive away viewership.

[@kenthompson5723]

Since they cannot act ethically, get rid of private health insurance companies. Outlaw the whole concept of for-profit health insurance.

[@meahdahlgren6537]

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[@Aftermath-News]

Outlaw lobbying. Lobbying is the reason why Politicians turn a blindeye on this.

[@goodfortunetoyou]

Not a good idea, frankly. Even if things go universal healthcare, there will be limits to what gets paid for, and some people will want top-up plans for extra care. For covered services, you still need people to process claims, explain what's covered, keep the servers running, all that admin stuff. What you really want is a third party checking them to make sure they do the right thing.

[@tailwatcher2500]

​@@Aftermath-Newsobesity is the actual problem in this country but your mirror is probably why you turn a blind eye to the actual problem.

[@alexlindsey1169]

@@Aftermath-News lobbying is a HUGE problem, correct. im not agains the idea of lobbying an idea to congress but there needs to be STRICT rules and enforcement on how this is done. how about you get 1 hour presentation and DONE. You go home. End of story. No camping out for weeks at the capitol building....no dinners....no entertaining....no private meetings....and if you're caught breaking these rules the position you are lobbying for is automatically REJECTED. That would end a lot of BS.

[@AlexanderLHawkins]

Insurance companies seeing themselves as the ones keeping down costs while PROFITING billions is absolutely unreal.

[@skyak4493]

They ARE the ones keeping cost down! You don’t have to buy health insurance! Pay for your own healthcare and you will see who the real crooks are!!!!

[@dandiem7008]

True that should’ve been the red flag They are admitting they control the cost minus the elephant in the room (what they really mean) DELAYED DENIED MEDICAL NECESSITY & APPEALS TO ration our care We pay premiums we deserve our healthcare

[@ishacodeh7908]

Im a small non emergent transport provider that got played by UHC here in CA. During the state of emergency they reached out to us begging and promising to pay for services rendered because of ambulance exhaustion but never came through. The ballpark figure is along the line of 80k taking a person to dialysis 3 times a week at 4AM for a very long time… since then ive fallen into a financial crisis and have become frustrated. Again im not a huge corporation. Im a small family business. It was literally me and my 55 year old dad doing this. What a shame. This is actually the second time we got ripped off by a third-party for profit business that is entrusted by medicare/caid to take care of people but pockets millions.

[@Delphine-bk24]

Our coverage being linked to employment; the deductibles, what they cover vs. what they don’t, waiting for reimbursement, a corporation deciding what is medically necessary for the patient vs. a doctor actually treating the patient- it’s wild! Life as it is, is stressful enough.

[@donjosegomburza835]

The biggest issue is that the USA politicians are in cohort with health care insurance companies.

[@the_om_project]

Judiciary

[@rumblefish9]

The US is the only country to legalize bribery... you just call it a different name. It's called "lobbying".

[@shellysmith1037]

but then you say out the other site of your mouth, let the Govt provide healthcare. makes no sense

[@EvolutionIsRealAndGodIsFiction]

@@shellysmith1037The difference is FOR profit vs NON profit, and claims being denied VS claims always accepted. The issue is that the politicians are BOUGHT OUT by the insurance companies and other plutocrats. If the government WORKED FOR US and not THEM, then a single payer, government sponsored program would be ideal.

[@jaynfontain6635]

@@EvolutionIsRealAndGodIsFiction no wait, you're talking the wrong language, I got this

[@DrShonTV]

I started my dental practice in 2023 and initially accepted all insurances, including Medicaid and Medicare. However, within two months, I had to stop accepting Medicaid and Medicare due to the excessive paperwork, claims that had to be mailed, and the extremely low reimbursement rates-sometimes lower than the price of a cheeseburger. To make matters worse, I was denied thousands of dollars in payments, and the insurance companies outright refused to pay. I faced similar issues across all insurance providers: excessive post-treatment paperwork just to beg for payments long after the work was completed, along with a tedious preauthorization process that delayed patient care. The repeated denials and inefficiencies nearly put me out of business, forcing me to go out-of-network with all insurance plans. The entire insurance system feels like a scam, and it has significantly soured my perception of the industry.

[@jenhide]

This is so true!work as dental treatment coordinator its ridiculous that we have constantly have to battle with ins company to got padi,its really sucks

[@bevs9995]

you should make a video, do interviews with other youtubers/podcasters

[@OuttaasiteNdynomite]

Why is dentistry so expensive?

[@KingTheRat]

I wish dentists would publish their prices up front. Prices w/o any insurance companies in the middle. I want to be able to shop around and know what procedures cost before I opt in to it. Do you think something like this is possible?

[@japrilak7245]

Flash news: it's a scam. It has always been.

[@Lumber91]

Healthcare getting put on blast since bro got killed 💀💀 all it took was a assassination

[@johnd2058]

It won't matter. Chump broke every healthcare promise he ever made, survived two assassination attempts by loyal members of the political party he hijacked, and got re-elected with a judicial and legislative majority. The American body politic has a masochistic death wish.

[@ProBallerJake7]

People should take note of this!

[@ssuwandi3240]

Sorry. Climate Adjuster. The CEOs know why they must delay and deny. The thing is healthcare isn't about the climate factor. The Expert even admitted that the AI wasn't supposed to be used as claims screening and denying !

[@johnmclane3890]

And this is only for health care imagine what else

[@gilberttorres8]

Or they had him killed.

[@amatoyoichi8468]

Killing people is bad. But dude killed a demon.

[@guppy0536]

Know of 4 more unfortunately

[@abcdefghi9]

Why are non-doctors telling doctors how to manage patients? There should be laws preventing that.

[@vitaliyshvetsdds7417]

There are. They are not enforced. Or they are written with insurance CEO input.

[@Monsuco]

The reason is they are the ones paying for it.

[@TheJoeSwanon]

This guy Luigi is going to end up going down in history as somebody that started a movement

[@MuhammadakbarAK47]

We need universal healthcare. Like in Canada, Germany, Japan, France, Israel . And I don't care if that policy was fist Introduced by the communist Soviet Union.

[@johnd2058]

What, like Sacco and Venzetti? It's a little late when the president-elect is someone who already broke every promise he ever made on healthcare, and is bodyguarded 24-7 like all the rest of the HMO CEOs.

[@KiraSieni]

Deny defend depose

[@marythr2617]

Exactly, he will be a hero in history. The government wanting to make it seem like citizens should be scared of him will be a hilarious part of that history too 😂. Like nobody was scared of him, we supported him all along lol. Luigi “the adjuster” will very likely be in our history books in 200 years from now, like for real.

[@mamaschronicles3244]

Murder is not a movement

[@jacob4070-v5p]

Didn't know Medicare advantage had such a higher denial rate than Medicare! Thank you for your investigation!

[@charliebrown555]

Medicare Advantage puts the insurance company between you and your doctor. It is privatized healthcare. Original Medicare does not do that. It is government run healthcare. No middle man to say no. Insurance Agents get bigger commissions to push Medicare "Advantage." Is a gym membership worth a major denial and all the turn-around you'll get with an Advantage plan?

[@jaynfontain6635]

didn't know?? folks testified to Congress bout this long ago, Congress did nothing. You can expect the same here.

[@9876karthi]

Watch the 2007 documentary SICKO...nothing has changed since.

[@chickenfishhybrid44]

Interesting. My mom is currently on Advantage and hasn't had any denials luckily. She's been getting all sorts of treatments and surgery the last year with cancer. I was thinking about looking into a different option or plan for her and maybe I will.

[@mommabear2544]

My mother in law found out first hand. Months after signing up, she was found dead in her home

[@bartrajkowski]

I’m a doctor and I’m so frustrated with insurance putting profits first before patients and doctors. I wasted so much time over the last few years dealing with insurance that at this point in my life I don’t even want to be a doctor anymore. I ve been screwed so many times over and I even had prior authorization for my patients and they still didn’t pay me. What a scam all these CEO’s should be in jail. They lied to my patients especially UHC and tried to turn the patient against me that I’m somehow responsible for them not paying me. What a scam I’m not surprised he got shot.

[@TTM9691]

I see my own doctor exasperated all the time! And the energy they/you have to expend just to find out if a procedure is covered, or if there's a specialist in my network, etc etc etc. I never have gotten over it, going back to the 80s when the HMOs came in and we had to stop seeing the doctor we'd been seeing for the previous fifteen years!

[@tailwatcher2500]

You're not a doctor. Otherwise, you'd know hospitals are padding the bills, which lead to the requirement of prior authorization. The blame is shared with bad doctors and the hospitals themselves. Quit lying.

[@DrShonTV]

I feel your pain!!! They have robbed me as well to the point I don’t enjoy it!

[@Mattyjohns-mq2mo]

I have a question for you. Why do doctors and health systems keep on increasing prices beyond the reasonable level? Why are doctors and health systems charging different prices for the same services and tests when they are right across the street ? When I got a CT done one hospital charged 3k and went 5 blocks over the same CT same diagnosis 5.3k. Thankfully my insurance paid 80%. And that was the negotiated rate.

[@MrJedBuddy]

Are you ready to take a 50% pay cut?

[@pandaman4984]

I encountered a patient the other day where the insurance denied his antibiotic for a blood infection. The hospital refused to discharge him because of that, and now his bills are piling up. I feel bad for him

[@Spufflez]

Waiting on a prior auth for my Crohn's Disease medication is what landed me in the hospital with a bowel obstruction last year. Instead of paying for my medication, Cigna had the pleasure of paying for weeks of inpatient care, multiple surgeries, TPN and PICC line care, and the medication that my doctor wanted me on in the first place.

[@xpaperxcutx4588]

Hope you had send in a written letter regarding your pain and all of the points you have written here.

[@hallcrash]

It's not Pre-Authorization. It's Auto-Denial.

[@jessehutchinson7539]

It doesn't matter if it's a private company or a public company or the government, medical services will always be denied.

[@faithnfire4769]

@@jessehutchinson7539 It it's a government, they know they will have to pay for treatments late in life caused by avoiding preventative or early care. A health insurance company is only there to make money when you are healthy, and then deny you coverage whenever, however, for any reason they can. A government pays administrators, an insurance company pays investors and CEOs as well.

[@deadgolfer6345]

Then don't buy the insurance?

[@amandacollyer645]

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[@Misaka-gt5yj]

@@jessehutchinson7539 Wait until you realize Obama forced us all to have health insurance or pay an extra 2% income tax. The Affordable Care Act (ACA), also known as Obamacare, included an individual mandate that required most Americans to have health insurance or pay a penalty Good thing Trump got rid of that forced insurance bs in 2019.

[@divermike8943]

Just saw a video that has me angry. A Lakeland Florida mom on the phone after a denial of claim said, "Delay, deny & depose. You people are next". She was arrested for that. $100k bail. Jailed until her court date in mid January. That's hardly a threat of violence but an expression of anger. This woman wasn't going to hurt anyone. It's outrageous.

[@MalachiMalach]

Do you know that Jesus loves you? He gave up his life and died on the cross to set us free from sin and gave us the opportunity to have everlasting life with him in heaven. Jesus is waiting for you with his loving arms. Please repent before it's too late. Godbless.

[@altspecs342]

@malechi repent from what? Your suggestion that this random person online has sinned by existing is beyond absurd and your method of control holds no power in this domain.

[@divermike8943]

@@MalachiMalach I do know Jesus Christ. No I don't advocate for violence, quite the contrary. "Judge not, lest ye be judged". Matthew 7:1-5. And that woman did not threaten anyone and had no intention to do so.

[@AGenerationJones]

I think it was more of an opinion than a threat. I imagine the insurance industry wants to intimidate people who express that opinion.

[@jessehutchinson7539]

Obamacare is working wonderfully. Better send a letter of appreciation to the former president

[@dreamscometrue3482]

Time to end corporate healthcare. No more half measures. No deals. Public healthcare is the only way.

[@karenkoe7096]

Don't expect the incoming administration to do anything to help. If anything, they want to turn all of Medicare over to insurance companies..

[@jp5858-i8o]

We need to keep up the pressure!

[@banjobro64]

US healthcare is "private" just at a surface level: it is heavily influenced by public spending, beaurocracy and politics. Healthcare should be 100% private. No public funding of the companies. Strict antitrust. State should give subsidies directly to the individuals based on their situation.

[@steffenjensen422]

I'm from Germany and we have a semi-public system. Funnily enough, the worst parts are the privatized parts

[@smithynoir9980]

@@steffenjensen422 Same in Australia. The private section of the industry doesn't exist without being propped up by the public. Heck, increasing premiums for claims ensures even those insured go to the public system initially anyway.

[@ellenbeato652]

I waited 6 years for a pacemaker. I had to have a loop recorder to prove it while I fell a lot, fainted, and my heart "paused".

[@robertbrooks6167]

Email your congressmen and senators - multiply your vote - put pressure on them to do something - get up, stand up - stand up for your right to healthcare

[@bryangomez2876]

I rolled my ankle super hard playing basketball this past summer. When I went to hospital, they did an x-ray and found nothing broken so they gave me some pills and sent me on my way. I couldn’t walk. They gave me a boot and crutches and I knew that something else was wrong. Swelling got worse, but when I went to a specialist, they had to schedule my MRI a month back. I needed to know ASAP if something was torn to get disability and spend time to recover and not work. I went back to the same ER I went to and the Nurse Practitioner gave me the best advice to how to deal with this problem. He said, “Come back in the morning. Let the staff know what your dealing with and that you want an MRI. Usually insurance takes a while to approve one, but if you come early morning and we admit you in, we can get it done by the end of the day” And that’s exactly what happened, I went in at 7am and got out at 5pm. Got my MRI and they found that I torn 3 ligaments and messed up a ton of muscle tissues as well. I got 2 months off work, w/dissability pay and PT. I owe my speedy recovery and time off to that guy.

[@ShivaWings]

Similar to someone I knew had to do this as well. They needed a procedure for their heart but it would take too long to wait for the insurance to give authorization or deny it. So the MD said to get admitted to the ED tomorrow morning and they would do the procedure.

[@annesuekocoyle1956]

Here’s the problem. You don’t need an mri to diagnose a torn ligament in your ankle. We used to do it 20 years ago without mris. And MRIs are extremely expensive. You still absolutely need PT to recover and the sooner the better. And two months off work sounds a bit high but reasonable. So I’m not defending insurance companies. But hospitals have gotten ridiculous the way they exploit the system to make money. I watched them give my great aunt a catscan and MRI after she had fainted when all she needed was a blood test. The whole system is exploitative and it’s us the patients who are suffering.

[@xrxuxsxhx]

@@annesuekocoyle1956 The hospitals are EQUALLY complicit here for their outrageous pricing and administrative bloat. I do not like how they are portrayed as a victim, they are in bed with insurance companies to exploit the consumer (aka patient)

[@musiccer7446]

@@annesuekocoyle1956how do you know all she needed was a blood test. Are you a specialist?

[@Carlos72797]

For imaging, use independent third parties and ask for the self-pay rate. This is normally 20% of the special rate your insurance company negotiated for you.

[@maryanngorman3533]

When I got breast cancer, my surgeon had to cut a visit with me short because she couldn’t fit a pre-authorization meeting about a test she wanted for me into any other time in her busy day. They approved the test, then later declined that it be done so quickly, with an expedient report prepared. They weren’t willing to pay whatever “extra” it might be to have it done quickly. Mind you, I had inflammatory breast cancer with a 92% growth rate and a 12 cm mass. Centimeters, not millimeters.

[@jamesrosewell9081]

How are things now? Wishing you well on your recovery

[@maryanngorman3533]

@ chemo and surgery destroyed the cancer and I’m finishing up radiation. I start oral chemo in a month. 🙌🏻🤞🏻thanks for asking!

[@jessehutchinson7539]

I hope you write a letter of thanks to Obama for Obamacare!!

[@paulstejskal]

Congrats on your remission.

[@strnglhld]

@@jessehutchinson7539 Before Obamacare I was denied from getting insurance due to “pre existing condition”. So, I’m thankful that he changed that. I’m not thankful the health insurance industry basically wrote the bill. They need to get out.

[@MikiCab1]

We had United healthcare and it was awful. They would constantly deny coverage where it took over two months to get physical therapy for my daughter from a sports injury at school. Everyday she was in pain. We paid out of pocket for physical therapy until they agreed to pay. Simply awful insurance

[@DreamerSeeker]

The American Healthcare system desperately needs change, because the American people desperately need change here.

[@Sparkl4860]

My husband is the physician that is put on eternal hold with the insurance company fighting for cancer treatment plan that is denied! Where does he fit this time wasting B.S. into his schedule when he sees 26 patients a day! He finally had it and told the insurance company he was going to the news. guess what? The treatment plan was then passed! Is this what it boils down to? It's disgusting and it needs to change!

[@nintendo_26]

Honestly, if we end up getting universal healthcare out of this whole situation, Luigi will be hailed as a hero by millions.

[@miacell5723]

Ask Canada about how well that works, where many Canadians come to the US for surgery because of long waits in Canada.

[@nintendo_26]

@@miacell5723 Yeah because Canada is a terrible example of single payer. Australia and France are better models to follow because they have a universal system where everyone is covered, plus a robust private system that's regulated by the government where there's competition and it helps to take pressure off of the public system as well as lower costs. You get the best of both worlds

[@fdssdfsdfs]

@@miacell5723 I don’t know any Canadian that wants the US system. There are plenty of Americans who go to Canada and try to get healthcare there.

[@chickenfishhybrid44]

​@@fdssdfsdfs​​ who said Canadians want the US system? It's simply true that some Canadians come to the US for healthcare because they don't want to wait in Canada. Or they may come to the US for a treatment that isn't available or won't be covered in Canada anyway. Idk how many Americans go to Canada trying to get healthcare there, I've never really heard of it. At any rate, I'll bet there are more Canadians coming to the US than the other way. I support some sort of national, universal healthcare system for the US. People should just understand that if the US gets such a system, it doesn't necessarily mean that people always get any treatment they may want or need or never have to wait. The denials and waits just aren't because of insurance not wanting to pay for it. It's the government not viewing it as necessary or otherwise rationing care.

[@alexlindsey1169]

@@chickenfishhybrid44 check your paragraph. you're all over the place. i THINK I know what you mean but I don't want to guess. Your first sentence needs context.

[@cellohack8602]

Thank you for not gaslighting, and do real journalism. That's the way to go.

[@hazukichanx408]

There's still a certain amount of gaslighting at work here - notably, the overall vibe of "well obviously the murder was wrong" (and the wrongful deaths caused by the CEO were not technically murder, so don't be too upset about those). They're just watching their words a little more than when the Illusion of Untouchability was still cozily draped about them...

[@Sonzoul1]

I am in Canada. A month ago, our family doctor told us that there are some concerns with my husband's blood test and he was also having some abdominal pain. The next day, he went to the hospital and spent 1 full day doing so many tests, including CT Scan and he left the hospital with zero payments. I always find it sad when Americans try to defend USA's health care system by telling us that Canadians wait too long for either medical appointments or tests. Being nationalist is one thing but being logical is another things.

[@bevs9995]

but i literally have heard canadians moving to the US and then saying that while americans pay for healthcare, "at least they get something out of it. " there is more to why some people are getting 5 star and next day service

[@TheBigBus111]

I still prefer to be in a system where I have to wait 24hrs in the ER, but be guaranteed quality care, than a system where I can end up out of network or denied care retroactively.

[@Sid992]

Unfortunately, I heard that Canada loses a lot of good doctors to the US because they are paid so much more as well. I'm all for capitalism but there is a fine line between profit and greed. The US healthcare system has been in a state of greed for a long time and contrary to the "good" politicians have done, it has only made things worse for the patients.

[@galaxia4709]

I find it sad that Canadians are always putting in American faces how good Canada supposedly is. And I am European. All you Canadians post is bragging in the wake of the latest events, not a single comment has been different and not a single comment with genuine support. I didn't know how arrogant you are. Btw, Canada only copied their healthcare from Europe. And it isn't even functioning really well, a year or a half year waiting for treatment is really long and bad. In Europe, the Netherlands has notoriously long waiting lists as well.

[@65thE5]

What's your guys taxes like ?

[@FPSTeaBag]

I suffered a really bad influenza this year. I went to the doctors office with my medical card, waited 5 minutes, got diagnosed for another 5 minutes, got my prescription at the pharmacy next door in 2 minutes. All in all, i payed 7€ for my Antibiotic.

[@olgarodionova27]

A society that doesn't care about its sick is doomed to fail.

[@foxylovelace2679]

Health insurance companies should not be making medical decisions.

[@deadgolfer6345]

They don't. They're a payment product. Not healthcare.

[@izdatsumcp]

They're not, they're making payment decisions.

[@pavanraj4125]

At the end of the day, the system we live in and the people that complain about it both have valid reasons. They both want to have money and good services. This is the objective of every economic related juncture. But money can't buy everything, human capability is what is important. We have focused so much on the outside and not on the inside of what makes the human system work. If we truly paid attention to how our body works, trust me, the healthcare system and the medications that doctors swear by wouldn't even be needed cause we are in tune with our bodies. Once that is solved, then we just need to work on greed and abundance of recscources.

[@bigbluebuttonman1137]

@@pavanraj4125There is only so much control people have over their bodies. Healthcare will still be needed for people who got a bad roll of the genetic dice. Obviously, burdens on healthcare could be reduced by people making food at home instead of eating at McDonald’s or Burger King all the time.

[@SigFigNewton]

Payment decisions ARE medical decisions in effect, and they should not be made by people whose incentives are perfectly misaligned.

[@rexb9661]

Health insurance companies are incredibly difficult to work with. When I was diagnosed with cancer, my carrier (not United Healthcare) required all specialist referrals and scans to be authorized in advance, but they repeatedly lost the paperwork, then claimed they needed a month to process those requests. The institutional indifference was devastating and I remember thinking murderous thoughts about company executives. Luckily, I was able to find a representative who actually listened to me rather than follow the company scripts. When someone is dealing with a serious medical issue, they should not have to fight an insurance company to meet its obligations. Insurance companies should have to pay fines if they wrongly deny claims or delay treatment. Otherwise there is every incentive to deny and delay.

[@jgdooley2003]

What is needed ia an ombudsman and regulatory oversight for such organisations. Also an antitrust method of keeping healthcare providers and insurance companies at arms length should be implemented. Hospitals, doctors and insurance companies should not be tied together so closely as they seem to be in the US.

[@jonathanlindtner2616]

The representative who helped you were most likely penalized because the person went off script. It is not just a sick system it is a sickening system.

[@andresgarciacastro1783]

Now think, how many ressources and energy is spent with all that legal and administrative work (from the inshurance and from doctors).

[@Joaftheloaf]

People are saying that this murder shouldn’t have happened and it isn’t the way, but I want to point out this video probably wouldn’t exist without it happening. Like it or not it’s restarted the conversation and that is needed if you want to make meaningful change.

[@the_om_project]

❤

[@MuhammadakbarAK47]

We need universal healthcare. Like in Canada, Germany, Japan, France, Israel . And I don't care if that policy was fist Introduced by the communist Soviet Union.

[@xRiddleMeThisYouTube]

Trump tried when he was President and y'all didn't want him to replace Obamacare

[@terryf3282]

You are 100% right thousands of youtube videos exist now because of 1 shooting death out of 47000 that happen in the U.S each year.

[@mikea5745]

Thousands of Americans are dying each year due to delayed and denied care. I worry about those thousands first, and I'll be concerned for the CEOs afterwards

America needs a universal healthcare.

[@slavianalbanovich9025]

There is not enough money, especially now that money is needed to buy Greenland.🥲

@slavianalbanovich9025 Greenland is not for sale though.

[@slavianalbanovich9025]

I know, I was expressing the absurdity of saying that universal healthcare would cost too much in the USA.

@@slavianalbanovich9025 and Greenlanders also have universal healthcare. So, I don't think they want to join the US. I hope you guys keep fighting for universal healthcare.

[@aethylwulfeiii6502]

Goverment healthcare is just another wealth redistribution scan, do you really want higher taxes to pay for drug addicts, alcoholic a, obese peoples and smokers poor life choices?

[@pyarepiyush]

Unqualified insurance adjusters can override qualified doctors recommendations? Why don’t they get charged with interfering with patient health? Because they’re big and untouchable?

[@annrrf1464]

Thank God for the NHS in the UK because this dystopian method of healthcare in one of the most advanced countries in the world is beyond bizarre.

[@xRiddleMeThisYouTube]

Been that way since Independence. Benjamin Franklin owned a private hospital.

[@カスカディア国人]

Please help us, we are poisoned by our food and pollution and can’t get proper treatment for our health. Our government doesn’t respond to the people and is controlled by oligarchs, and over the last 20 years has further eroded our freedom to benefit their money and power, and it pretty much only ever gets worse. We have more people in jail than any other country, our life expectancy is declining, the cost of everything only goes up and strains our families. Dear European friends, please help the American people, we are failing at helping ourselves.

[@darlacox]

But...but...but our oligarchs keep telling us what a nightmare your system is.

[@sluglife9785]

Let's not forget, however, that the NHS is wildly flawed in and of itself. There are better examples of healthcare systems, we just don't get them explained to us.

[@nathanielmohr9622]

Isn't the NHS falling apart because UK is broke?

[@JoyInResidency]

UHC/UHG has become VERY profitable, and listed within top 10 companies with highest market values. How did UHC/UHG exploit patients and physicians to get so profitable? We need some investigative reports on this !!

[@RA-wp6th]

Everything happening in that business needs to be opened up.

[@akramalraeeini370]

The channel A More Perfect Union did a report on this before. I suggest you watch it, it was very informative and frustrating to watch.

[@sharpcanines3347]

about time people wake up to this insurance mafia

[@MuhammadakbarAK47]

We need universal healthcare. Like in Canada, Germany, Japan, France, Israel . And I don't care if that policy was fist Introduced by the communist Soviet Union.

[@miacell5723]

Docs & Hospitals are the one charging insane prices!

[@sharpcanines3347]

@ no it's the middleman, your insurance company.

[@flipdiva0007]

​@miacell5723 they have to do it just to get a semi decent partial reimbursement.

[@deadgolfer6345]

Don't buy it?

[@izzylove89]

UNIVERSAL HEALTHCARE FOR ALL! everyone deserves the right to health coverage regardless of income.

[@its.that-time]

People need to vote for the right people then. Citizens United made the truth be harder to find...

[@jo_jo_jo]

As someone from a country in Europe with a public healthcare system, I can't even fathom who came up with this system. If you were trying to create a lacking healthcare system on purpose, you wouldn't even come close. Here, the state provides a wide chart of treatments for each disease and, after diagnosed, you can choose your own. The only problem is that, sometimes, it can last a few months until you're called for your treatment. In any case, the delay is not because of bureaucracy, but because there are other patients with worst conditions than you, so they have preference. Anyway, if you want to be treated immediately -or receive another kind of treatment not contemplated by the state- you're free to pay for it in a private clinic. But, believe me, 90% of cases you don't even need to.

[@sylvariatzaka]

In Canada with Universal Healthcare you: 1. You have had to pay into healthcare for more of your life (although the system is putting it on business owners these days) 2. Our wait times in Canada are frankly embarrassing. My mom had to wait like 3 years to get spinal surgery. I had to wait 6 months just to SEE a sinus specialist. 3. Many things are not covered. I have bad skin with eczema and 0 skin conditions are covered with the system. It's counted as 'cosmetic'. Every time I need steroid cream it comes out of my pocket. 4. After seeing how every single hospital was apparently maxed out during the pandemic. I remember looking at Edmonton's hospital capacity in 2018 and they literally hit max capacity before Covid even happened at all. The Canadian healthcare system is NOT GOOD and getting worse by the year. We need half public and half/private to take the strain off the overworked system. Not always sunshine and roses when your politicians are r3t4rds

[@E_D___]

You forgot to mention that the private options are still much cheaper than how much they would cost in USA

[@E_D___]

​@@sylvariatzaka I hope you and your family are all well by now. About the COVID thing - hospitals are nearly always at or above full capacity all around the world. There are never enough beds or enough doctors to go around.

[@slavianalbanovich9025]

I would add that in the USA the speed with which you start a visit or treatment depends not on their efficiency, but on how much you pay for insurance. If you pay little, waiting times are long even in the USA

[@Hunterxii]

Health care is a human rights not a profit

[@philiptran617]

A big part of high healthcare costs is to pay the doctors and hospitals, and these have to eat and pay their high student loans.:))

[@YorktownUSA]

No it's not.

[@GhoulSoulToll]

@@philiptran617 Not at all, usually with these costs, say medicine, the price is wildly inflated. Diabetic medicine was at one point over 200 per prescription. It wasn't until rita khan's lawsuit that it became 35. This, and items like inflating doctor's visits and more make it so that costs will rise. If insurance companies, the middle men of it all left, we could reign in on overpricing from clinics and proceed to create a competitive area for doctors and their clinics. As well making hospitals not for profit, as costs there are also over inflated.

[@philiptran617]

@ when you have surgery, try come to hospital and ask them how much it costs if you don’t have health insurance meaning you will pay out of pocket yourself, and see how much they will charge you.

[@MuhammadakbarAK47]

​@@YorktownUSAWe need universal healthcare. Like in Canada, Germany, Japan, France, Israel . And I don't care if that policy was fist Introduced by the communist Soviet Union.

[@CHMichael]

The issue is that insurance has to return profits to investors. Require them to be "not for profit " .

[@deadgolfer6345]

Would that make it better?

[@DanS8204]

Healthcare insurance should not be a for-profit industry.

[@Audobell]

@@chadengels2625 he said healthcare insurance not healthcare in general. Non for profit employees can still make plenty of money but when executives are making millions and they pull money from patients to pay billions to shareholders, it’s unethical and immoral.

[@bevs9995]

health insurance shouldnt exist at all except of catastrophic coverage perhaps.

[@G73Server]

@@chadengels2625oh boy youre right all the other developed countries that have universal healthcare just do not have doctors and nurses

[@mikea5745]

@@chadengels2625 There are many countries with nationalized or non-profit healthcare insurance, and all of them still have doctors and nurses (in fact many of them do not have a shortage like the US does)

[@idreamtiwasbackatmanderley414]

@@chadengels2625 French here with universal healthcare, just to reassure you, we do have doctors, surgeons and nurses. And by the way medical school is free!

[@brianmoore2735]

It's incredible that news orgs are NOW reporting on how terrible the US insurance industry is, as though it's a new development. They've been asleep at the wheel for years on this, and they only now woke up.

[@YazYYY19]

Greed is a disgusting disease. Those insurance companies should seek medical attention immediately!

[@ilessthan3fgc]

"Shareholders" are executives and CEOs

[@gamerhistorian7843]

Free Our Boi!! Free the hero!!!

[@alexm566]

Most healthcare companies are publicly traded in the stock market

[@MTx485]

That’s patently false.

[@Timbrock1000]

No. Shareholders are people who have invested their money into a given company, and in so doing, purchase shares, that is, fractional ownership of said company. The more shares they purchase, the more of a voice and control they hold in the company.

[@alexlindsey1169]

WHAT? shareholders are owners of the stock. MAY include executives and CEOs but most of these companies are publicly traded companies. If you have a 401k you MIGHT be one yourself and not even realize. FACTS.

[@forrestgump865]

Luigi saved many lives, things are already changing.

[@Pr0toPoTaT0]

No they're not. Things are getting talked about and I promise, nothing will change. I'm so exhausted.

[@MuhammadakbarAK47]

We need universal healthcare. Like in Canada, Germany, Japan, France, Israel . And I don't care if that policy was fist Introduced by the communist Soviet Union.

[@dr.eldontyrell-rosen926]

@@Pr0toPoTaT0 I'm 58, I've seen it all, you are correct.

[@rumblefish9]

People have to keep the pressure on government and insurance companies. Insist on universal healthcare.

[@f33db4ck1047]

Luigi saved lived

[@taichi2955]

IMO US hospitals are overcharging. In Japan a CT scan costs around $200 without insurance.

[@aamirabbas1000]

In Pakistan everything is free in public hospitals and we're 3rd world country

[@Nephale]

Yep. In some cases you might be able to buy the x-ray or ultrasound machine for the price they are charging.

[@MrJedBuddy]

@@aamirabbas1000why say public hospital instead of hospital? Are you saying there’s a difference between private and public?!?!

[@abdullahakhtar9824]

@@MrJedBuddyin Pakistan, both government provided hospitals and private health insurance exists. If you are able to, you can pay for health insurance for higher quality care

[@Law19157]

Yup, the hospitals themselves are at the root of the issue.

[@Abbtsmith0619]

These for profit Health Insurance companies should be shut down !

[@peacock1967mine]

My friend is a victim of deny CT scan by 4 different doctors over 1.5 years. My friend finally went to ER with the severe multiple symptoms. The CT scan shows stage 4 cancer. The toddler will most likely to grow up without a mom. Scary how greedy CEO’s policies took innocent lives and still gets respect. Not fair.

[@lga9046]

HEALTH 'INSURANCE' COMPANIES ARE A MIDDLEMEN, AND A BOUNDARY TO CARE

[@jessehutchinson7539]

Sounds like you need to send Obama a letter of thanks for this wonderful healthcare industry he created!! If you'll notice healthcare companies are about 10 times more wealthy than they were a decade ago. Wonder how that happened

[@lga9046]

@@jessehutchinson7539 This is utterly confused, mal-intentioned, and sarcastic without any bite. I give it a 2 out of 10.

[@deadgolfer6345]

Then why buy it? You don't have to.

[@nimo4335]

GREED!!!!😞😞😞😡😡😡🤬🤬🤬

[@MrJedBuddy]

I know… these doctors…

[@jessehutchinson7539]

Obamacare. Hopefully you weren't one of those losers telling us that it's wonderful

[@charlech]

Luigi is doing the time alone for all

[@FighterFlash]

Not for Mario.

[@Epoch11]

The man is becoming a martyr

[@tigerlily1034]

Jury nullification!

[@ChrisCooperXmarksthespot]

Can’t imagine getting authorized; having the surgery ; then having the coverage revoked. How is that even a f’n thing?! #FreeLuigi

[@Celeste-in-Oz]

So it’s true… the insurance companies can tell medical staff what to do! As an Australian I had trouble believing this.

[@clearmedical6575]

I’m a primary care doctor and agree with my colleagues… contact me for examples of the care being delayed every single day .. we need reform with health insurance in the US ..

[@deadgolfer6345]

What do you want it to do?

[@kowloonattic2110]

Would that not be negligent of you to deny care - or are you just grateful that the Hippocratic oath isnt legally binding!

[@deadgolfer6345]

@@kowloonattic2110 It is a point everyone is missing in this thing. A point that is really in service of 'down the line' points. But ins companies do not delay or deny care. Because they don't provide care. Only a doctor can do that. Ins is a payment product that you can choose to purchase or not.

[@strnglhld]

@@kowloonattic2110 They clearly did not say that THEY are denying care. It’s health insurance co’s.

[@Yawyna124]

@@kowloonattic2110 Not the doctor denying it, but the insurance company.

[@Muckian1992]

Honestly as a European, who has health insurance, it is incredibly difficult to understand what us even going on here... In general over here being sick doesnt make you poor, and if your doctor advises treatment you get it.

[@ioy2023]

America is about greed.

[@Pt08020]

True, also heard insurance even covers ur transportation, therapy etc. anything related to ur health and treatment that cost money. That's very nice.

[@Yawyna124]

I feel like there are probably a lot of things you must find very difficult to parse right now about the going-ons over here as a European.

[@Aiden-lm8mo]

That’s because people are a lot healthier in Europe where obesity isn’t celebrated

[@AbiemMiqyal-qf4xu]

Million us die because of slow and denying health insurance

[@MuhammadakbarAK47]

We need universal healthcare. Like in Canada, Germany, Japan, France, Israel . And I don't care if that policy was fist Introduced by the communist Soviet Union.

[@MrJedBuddy]

Nope

[@miacell5723]

Get healthy & exercise!

[@jessehutchinson7539]

Sounds like you are a thanks and a letter of appreciation to Obama for this wonderful healthcare system!!!

[@MuhammadakbarAK47]

@jessehutchinson7539 Obamacare only helps the elderly not the working class

[@waitaminute2015]

Yesterday my drs office sent a text message. As of 2/25 they will no longer accept any insurance except Medicare and Medicaid. They are fed up.

[@miku1408]

I can vouch for this to be 100% true. My husband who had an aggressive form of cancer and needed immediate treatment was blocked by insurance asking for pre authorization of the chemo drugs. It took a lot of stressful back and forth with us calling the insurance company and doctors office until the issue was resolved. Also this same scenario repeated multiple times during the course of the treatment.

[@xinyu7881]

Although "hard violence" killing is illegal, if the insurance company sets a harsh compensation standard, resulting in the insured‘s interests being damaged or even losing his life, how will this ”soft violence“ killing be punished? It is worth pondering.

[@sigrholambda]

the whole idea of a for profit healthcare system doesnt make sense. A profit motive and a care motive are diametrically opposed.

[@charliebrown555]

Medicare Advantage is privatized health insurance. It is not original Medicare. There is a huge difference. When you turn 65, don't be fooled by the "free" bennies. Insurance agents make more commission on these plans .

[@norman_5623]

Letting insurance companies use the Medicare brand was one of the biggest government giveaway I can think of. It's as if the U.S. Post Office let Federal Express call itself "U.S. Postal Service Express."

[@jessehutchinson7539]

Only a market can bring down the cost of a service or good. The government cannot.

[@CandleWisp]

​@@norman_5623 Not from the US, but what? How can a private company use branding from a public program?

[@norman_5623]

@@CandleWisp Yes, it is confusing. That was the point -- to make people think that Medicare Advantage was part of the government Medicare program, when it was actually a private substitute for Medicare. The government takes the money that we've been contributing to the Medicare program all our lives, and gives it to private insurers. The insurance industry was politically very powerful, with many supporters in Congress and the President. On one level, this is an ideological battle between government and the free market. Conservatives want to privatize Medicare completely. They claimed that the free market, including Medicare Advantage, would be cheaper and better than the government Medicare program. Actually, it's more expensive, takes away patient choice of doctor and treatments, and takes money away from patients on Medicare. Medicare spends 1-2% on administrative costs. Medicare Advantage spends 15%.

[@FrankieHyman]

@@jessehutchinson7539 And the health insurance market is really doing a really good job at that? You're just kidding yourself. Crony capitalism will always have high prices. There's no incentive to lower cost as they become monopolies.

[@mdelrroose1414]

Healthcare should not be for profit. No one should profit on illness and care.

[@kalijasin]

Why is it legal for health care insurance ceos and companies to deny people life saving treatments and/or medications?

[@banjobro64]

It's illegal...

[@slavianalbanovich9025]

@@banjobro64 no, the companies exploit gray areas, they look for every legal technicality to deny you treatment. Companies profit by denying health care.

[@norman_5623]

A. Kent MacDougall, one of the star reporters at the WSJ, said, after he retired to teach journalism, that the WSJ exposes the rotten apples, but they don't talk about the shape of the barrel. In this case, they have all kinds of great stories (lifted from government reports) about the fraud and inefficiency in the healthcare system, but they've (mostly) ignored a serious look at the question of whether we should have for-profit health insurance at all, and whether we would be better off adopting one of the successful models in the other developed countries (which cost about half as much as our system).

[@romdotdog]

Why isn't this the top comment???!

[@norman_5623]

@@romdotdog Why wasn't Bernie Sanders elected president in 2016?

[@mikea5745]

@@norman_5623 Because the DNC used its influence to prioritize Hillary becoming the nominee, incorrectly assuming she would have an easy time against a seemingly weak candidate like Trump

[@strnglhld]

Bingo!

[@olebelrngr]

There is no effective way for an individual, patient or doctor, to deal with the massive insurance companies and the government is not doing it.

[@lightdestiny7]

This should be illegal! Sickening!

[@TheMinuteFamily]

Health insurance is the dirtiest slimiest business of them all.

[@chrismayberry8798]

Work to help patients avoid higher costs….. 😂. Respectfully Insurance companies besides Kaiser Permanente are terrible. Kaiser took care of my grandmother and gave her the care she needed… she loves to 90…. Kaiser is small because they do the right things by patients. About time WSJ did good reporting…. Keep it up

[@aryana7798]

Almost everyone said Luigi was with them during the time of CEO sh*oting. At the end of the day, Luigi is the one to go through all alone. Luigi went to fight the corporate companies all by himself for our good. How are we going to help him get out of this and also start a movement.

[@YorktownUSA]

Get out of premeditated murder?

[@libiroli]

@@YorktownUSA Many guilty people like OJ have gotten off due to bad police work, prosecutor errors, etc.

[@kenfern2259]

yah bc not of us knew who he was only after he was caught , if he know ppl , we could've helped him

[@richardshipe4576]

He wrote in his manifesto that healthcare is both complex and that he isn’t the most qualified person to discuss it. Then he shot someone? Luigi is intelligent with a long running set of anecdotes suggesting he is mindful of other opinions, he likely would not have shot an insurance ceo if he remembered that insurance firms negotiate against high costs for their profits while hospitals negotiate for their own highest possible profit. And if he looked at where the majority of the costs come from, he’d recognize that it is healthcare providers - not insurance firms - that are the source of high costs. This is not some big secret to those who take a weekend to get a 10,000 foot view of the situation. You all are delusional and show off how little you try to learn about this topic.

[@xRiddleMeThisYouTube]

Trump tried replacing Obamacare during his first term as President, or don't you remember that people really wanted to keep it as it was?

[@neutral_narr]

This is the consequence of having a for-profit healthcare system.

[@jaynfontain6635]

thanks Capt.

[@jessehutchinson7539]

This is the consequence of Obamacare. In the 1950s and 60s America had the best healthcare system in the world by far. And then government got involved

[@eppssilon]

UHC: These changes improve the health and life of millions "So where's your study?" UHC: **sends an internal study that isnt peer reviewed**

[@chrisl4999]

You forgot to mention that the study was written in crayon.

[@trise2033]

It's like the meme from The Office: the "I Can Do Whatever I Want" card.

[@fusionvideos6288]

We live in the twisted world where insurance companies have the power to determine your care, with no medical degree, over doctors.

[@ThePower2change]

Wow! I guess Canadians are really lucky! Never thought twice about who is paying for my cataract surgery or kidney stone surgery or my stay in the hospital because of ketoacidosis, nor do I give it a second thought when the doctor orders an ultrasound or a CT scan or even an MRI. Thanks to Luigi Mangione, I have a better appreciation of the universal health care I get as a Canadian! 🙏

[@ashishbatta]

Too bad the quality of healthcare in your country sucks.

[@mikea5745]

@@ashishbatta Better health outcomes than in the US, in addition to a longer life expectancy, for a fraction of the cost

[@Milk_Bag67]

​@@ashishbattaBetter than nothing

[@davehope-im6vn]

@@ashishbatta To be fair it depends on which province you are in. Each one does it their own way within guide lines the feds put out. Had a heart issue, my doc had me on preventative meds and had me in every week to check up on me and 4 weeks later I seen a specialist. Thats all fixed up now and now I'm dealing with a kidney issue. Again doc had me on meds to lower my blood pressure to protect them and about 6 weeks later had a biopsy. Still working on the cause but in the mean time I have had 6 rounds of blood work, a genetic blood test done, a hospital stay. 6 weeks to wait for a specialist while my doc watched over me is quite acceptable. Cost nothing (yes taxes) Didnt feel like I was just a number. Ya people wait for hours to see someone at a hospital but when you have people going in paper cuts or new moms who rush their kid in cause they have a slight fever or people who are sick but wait till the clinics close to finally get someone to look at them does clog the system up for no reason. Few years back had a pain in my back so bad I passed out.. wife rushed me up to the hospital and I was in with in minutes.. just a kidney stone.. but there was no wait. At no point in time will I have to borrow or sell assets to pay for my health.. never have to wait to be approved for some procedure. Our system anit perfect by any means but capitalism for the most part plays no role and thats its saving grace.

[@opallapis7347]

Im going to stop you right at 0:15. Before any of this happened, people have been shouting in outrage for decades about insurance companies. It only now that CEOs are listening and their immediate action is to hide themselves from the public. Not fix anything. 😂

[@emmanuelgeorges4984]

Why have lawmakers done nothing to fix that?

[@dearestcomrade8638]

Thank you so much for covering this responsibly. I have seen too many articles and videos only vilifying Luigi and not speaking to the true horrors of our insurance blocked medical system. DDD

[@chunkyrabbit1032]

insurance companies shouldn't be allowed to deny anything related to healthcare

[@CCP2024P]

I don’t support violence of any form but I also believe we as a society and government has the responsibility not to create a situation that will force good - normal- citizens to be criminals!! Making money through other Business is different from making criminal profits from people’s lives and health - through health insurance and pharmaceutical companies- If Lugi Mangione was thinking about himself- he won’t do it - because he’s from a wealthy family and has no money issues But he did it for all Americans- that is significant!! And that is what makes a compelling case and support for Luigi-

[@TommyChardonneret]

At the age of 71, my Medicare "Advantage" plan DELAYS EVERY DOCTOR RECOMMENDED TREATMENT! And I've HAD TO PAY into this system since I was 14. My Primary Care Physician diagnosed my constantly swollen feet and lower legs as most likely being from a cardiac condition. That was a full 3 months ago (in 2024!), and I am finally scheduled for an echocardiogram ON JANUARY 8, 2025! DELAY OFTEN MEANS DEATH for chrissakes! So BOO F-ING HOO about ANY health INSURANCE (NOT healthcare provider) multimillionaire executive being offed when I am among MILLIONS of senior citizens whose lives are being degraded and shortened! AND WE AREN'T THE ONLY ONES!!!

[@bighoss9705]

It's sad that something like this has to happen to make our lawmakers aware of the injustices suffered by those being denied medical care by these giant health care companies. They shouldn't be allowed to deny care to those who are insured with impunity!

[@dontcallmecute826]

Remember Hillary tried to give us universal healthcare? She was absolutely destroyed by Big Money because of that. And we all bought into Big Money lies. Private insurers got emboldened, and our healthcare really gone downhill from there.

[@sloaiza81]

The lawmakers were and are fully aware of what they did and are doing. The current system was proposed by a fancy think tank to make profits.

[@E_D___]

The lawmakers are fully aware of this. But they are also aware that if they act to stop it the money in the PAX that is ran by insurance companies is going to be used against them. Basically, they are being "legally and publicly blackmailed". (It is like this with a lot of subjects)

[@Mr4thahaters]

Thank you WSJ for doing the diligence demanded by this subject.

[@phranne1234]

Yup. I have a letter from my insurance company agreeing to pay in full for a doctor visit, and after the visit they decided they wouldn't cover it, and I've been fighting those unjust bills for months now (getting threatened with collections, etc.). The insurance company literally says now "the doctor/facilty entered the wrong modifier code" and my credit rating is on the guillotine for it.

[@johnhunady3526]

Obviously, the solution is to dump private insurance and go with Single Payer, like Canada and Western Europe. The only time private insurance should be allowed is as a SUPPLEMENT to Single Payer, like in France. When Canada started Single Payer in the 1960's, private insurance was not allowed at all.

[@jd88080]

Sickening system

[@techcafe0]

quite literally sickening

[@jessehutchinson7539]

ObamaCare!!!!!!!!

[@techcafe0]

@@jessehutchinson7539 no, the Affordable Care Act, or 'Obamacare', as you call it, has absolutely nothing to do with grasping insurance companies denying medical claims in order to please their shareholders.

[@peace-a]

Some people have learned to just go to the ER for an "emergency" in order to get a quick scan. They won't deny you care there and insurance companies must pay ER's.

[@cambryn]

I worked at a pain clinic doing prior authorisations. When I wasn’t scheduling people, it was just dealing with insurance companies, one after the other after the other. We will be put on long weights, I have to fill out duplicate and replicate forms we would have to resubmit multiple timesand this would be for people who were in severe pain and desperately needed devices, medications, or surgeries. They are so evil.

[@llamaArdiente]

We should not be appalled by Luigi's actions... It takes a Lot of Courage to do what he did... He knew he would get caught, but look at the IMPACT and Response from Thousands people who have been sacrificed to make the Insurance Companies Millionaires