Who Is Winning The Global EV Race?

[@andrewsaint6581]

At 7:10 Tesla's 500,000 is quoted as "last year's" figure but was in fact the 2020 figure. The date of this video is 14th March 2022. Tesla production in 2021 was over 936,000. This is a glaring error because the correct figure has been public information for nearly a quarter of a year. Is any of the other information accurate?

[@IvenSimon]

The video looks like 1 year old.

[@prateek2645]

No

[@thierryvt]

yeah this video was made quite a while ago it seems. Another hint was the "ford is about to release the mach-e" bit seeing that it's been out for well over a year now (december 2020)

[@anuardalhar6762]

I had seen parts of this video last year. I think they just edit previous videos and add some new contents and presented as new video with new heading.

[@HarrisonAdAstra]

They quote all there figures by 2020 numbers. So I assume this was made in late 2021.

[@PhongNguyen-nz9kz]

Odd to say VW is beating Tesla when the model 3 was the top selling vehicle in EU for January and Feb 2022.

[@duhaneyparkclassics7484]

not to mention tesla builds 3 cars for every 1 VW. i think someones parent company got some VW ad dollars🤣

[@NityaStriker]

They’re likely using 2021 data.

[@duhaneyparkclassics7484]

@@NityaStriker indeed, they are trapped in the past ☺

[@taefravis]

What else would you expect from CNBS(I will let you decide what the BS stands for lol).

[@robertjonker8131]

Vw has like 5 electric models in europe now, so makes sense. Overall VW sells more EV’s in europe

[@CTOInformation]

every time there is China appears in the video then there is the gray color filter and Chairman Mao. LOL

[@Blockdigit]

Lmao, now that is what editing is all about.

[@pengpeng85]

Astonishing mindset. In Europe you call it regulation while in China you call it mandates.

[@rainnchen9632]

They can call it whatev they want really. The truth will always remain the truth; that they are ages behind. I mean the strongest soft power influence of the US is their propaganda machine, the media. Not the first time they use subtle language microaggressions against China. They'd apply this underworld filter to gray out the skies and leaves when they show views from China too.

[@matthijskkr]

Because they are diffferent policies. China's regulation is more strict, thus, mandates

[@熙王-b5o]

@@matthijskkr funny

[@1HeatWalk]

Mandates from heaven.

[@bvishal2kn]

Yup! If the US demanded that only EVs be allowed in certain parts of the city there will be protests on the streets.

[@siraja6679]

"Chinese tech isn't at par with American" seems to be the narrative in first half of video. That's what they said when Japanese cars entered America, and the rest is history. One can't look down on China in the EV game. They are far ahead than we give them credit for.

[@Slayyyter_bitxh]

That was such a bs statement, nio and xpung have amazing quality cars technology wise and build quality. Sometimes surpassing tesla and other luxury car brands

[@ujjalshill6442]

Why not ban cars entirely and make city's more sustainable and profitable by making them more dense and walkable it will reduce obesity and and other health issues and also battery cars are not good either they use tires and building them requires rare earth metals which causes pollution battery cars explode

[@infoworld7706]

fun fact: Tesla made-in China has better quality than made-in the US.

[@boxerpop82]

@@infoworld7706 Yeah I've read that somewhere as well. Shame I'm an American too ): . Wonder how they will compare to the factory in Germany.

[@劉登宏-t4o]

@@boxerpop82 The competition in Chinese EV market is way bloodier than it is in America. High demands in both quality and quantity in Chinese EV market. Plus, every major car manufacture around the globe competes with each other in China as well as the local counterparts. It's bloody. No joke.

[@arunsubramanian7949]

We like tesla cuz of the fun driving experience, pricing, no haggle no hassle experience purchase and using it.

[@urdhvaborse3626]

combining already uploaded videos into long ones - CNBC has fallen a long way

[@andrewsaint6581]

The Tesla production figure quoted at 7:10 is 15 months out of date.

[@ujjalshill6442]

Why not ban cars entirely and make city's more sustainable and profitable by making them more dense and walkable it will reduce obesity and and other health issues and also battery cars are not good either they use tires and building them requires rare earth metals which causes pollution battery cars explode

[@ujjalshill6442]

@@andrewsaint6581 Elon Musk simp

[@drew031127]

Decent, but they're missing out on the biggest story, the story of BYD'S mastery of vertical integration. The fact that they are making their own chips, battery cells (that don't use cobalt or nickel), and already selling EVs at purchasing price parity with gasoline vehicles is the big story. The guy that said Chinese EVs do not have the quality of Western products has no idea what he's talking about. Not only do they have the quality, but most Chinese EVs have much better specs, like 800v structural packs, heat pumps, v2L abilities, etc. Legacy automakers are in big trouble.

[@msconsult6047]

Agreed, the comment disparaging the quality of Chinese EVs was completely wrong. Herbert Diess of VW could put CNBC right on that. He has said recently that VWs global competition is not other legacy car makers but Tesla and the Chinese.

[@sooocheesy]

All good points. The only issue with China is that nobody outside of China wants to buy their cars... because they're Chinese 🤷‍♂🤷‍♂ China will snag market share in a few countries, but not in US/Europe which "big auto" cares the most about.

[@the80386]

Imagine using Tesla as an example of quality, with a straight face no less!

[@hotchi1566]

@@sooocheesy I am from the EU and plan to buy EV from Xiaopeng or NIO.

[@Crashed131963]

Unlike Oil. There is not enough lithium-iron-phosphate (LFP) on the planet to power all the cars in the world. Just like Wind and Solar can not replace Coal for 1.4 billion people energy needs in China. All electric cars , there is no way it's just a matter of numbers.

[@mal7344]

I Would Buy Tesla The Future Price The Market Share The Technology The Profit The Potential The Efficiency Intuition + Insight = Innovation

[@sunjy9522]

4:44 I need to point out, Chinese authority never set the rule to charge more for purchasing traditional car, the price has always been like that whether it’s high or low. The authority has significantly reduced the price on electronic cars by cutting sales-tax or financial support for car companies, and almost no charge on getting a green plate which allows you to drive int city with no restriction during rush hour. The regular plate which is the blue plate, the number of blue plates being issued each year is limited, so it is expensive to acquire.

[@hcjet]

and it's just limitation in very few proportion of cities in China

[@j.pgoodwin9020]

They do have a horrendous smog and pollution problem

[@chickaboomboom2726]

@@j.pgoodwin9020 China hasn't had a smog problem in years. HOW CAN IT BE A SMOG WHEN CHINA WAS SHUT DOWN THE PAST 2 YEARS. WHERE WOULD THE SMOG COME FROM ? COME UP WITH ANOTHER LIE DUDE.

[@spicyirwin5835]

Cars would be MADE IN CHINA tho.

[@spicyirwin5835]

@@chickaboomboom2726 buis releases smog.

[@alostbard]

As for battery swapping, there has to be a way to prevent scams. You buy a new car with a new battery. The first time you pull in to swap battery, the independent battery swap business gives you back an older used battery. The business then sells that new battery and buys 2 or 3 older batteries. Rinse and repeat. Never underestimate the U.S. business mindset to scam for easy money.

[@duhaneyparkclassics7484]

does it matter how old a battery is if it gives you full power in a swap? i don't think so.

[@lanzer22]

To consider battery swapping as an option is the first problem. The infrastructure cost for battery swap stations across the whole country is simply not realistic, and when batteries last 300 miles a charge, there's no need for swapping stations wtihin the city for daily commute. Any owner would rather plug in their car, charge for cheap rather than taking valuable time each week to drive all the way to a swap station, line up, and pay extra for the same amount of energy.

[@cobaltblue2756]

Why it is matter?, The car shows the mileage it capable, it won't below the manufacturer standard or else they'll replace it

[@TakZ000]

@@lanzer22 Swapping could be interesting for those who doesn't have a home garage or live far from chargers.

[@skierpage]

Yes. Either battery swapping is for additional packs for longer journeys in addition to the small pack that comes with your car, or you buy a battery-less EV and arrange a separate contract for electric miles. Either way the battery swap supplier has to charge a lot of money to pay for all its battery packs and swap stations. And if you drive around for months plugging in elsewhere to recharge the swap company's battery packs in your vehicle, how does the swap company get paid? Better Place had to forbid its users from plugging in elsewhere.

[@bearpolo3618]

It's changed much since, BYD has surpassed Tesla to become the top EV manufacturer in the world now and Tesla is using batteries from CATL and BYD.

[@DavidKent0407]

BYD sales only exceed Tesla when both BEVs and plug-in hybrid sales are added together. BYD is now second to Tesla in world wide sales of BEVs having overtaken Volkswagen this year.

[@EMtesla1]

GM will NEVER be fully electric by 2035... mark my words.

[@duhaneyparkclassics7484]

no duh! they will probably be bankrupt by 2035 and next time that's on them no bail outs for losers.

[@jaityrone6306]

Never say never, as gas prices keep rising people will switch and demand them.

[@KevinLyda]

GM will be fully electric by 2035 or it won't exist.

[@revaddict]

GM won't even exist 🤣 or will be bailed out..

[@shvrdavid]

What most people don't realize, is that GM is basically no longer GM. Shortly after the US government bailed them out, SAIC bought 51% of GM. GM has since bought 1% back to share control, but the reality is that GM's electric division is now, and forever will be, a Chinese based and run company.... The US taxpayer bailed GM out, and the big wigs sold it to China shortly thereafter.... Keep that in mind when you buy your next car....

[@xbxb]

Can we disregard, not talked about or praised "Ambitions, plans, announcement that is so far in the future, etc."? Focus on what is happening, who spends so much and produced millions of EVs.

[@ujjalshill6442]

Why not ban cars entirely and make city's more sustainable and profitable by making them more dense and walkable it will reduce obesity and and other health issues and also battery cars are not good either they use tires and building them requires rare earth metals which causes pollution battery cars explode

[@colinosborne3877]

To win a race you have to have a finishing line. There is no such limit here. Some makes will become dominant, but fashion and world events set new goals. All markets go through growth, settlement and decline. No doubt someone in the future will declare types of battery are not green, blue or whatever. New companies will evolve to renew existing batteries.

[@thelastredhead2653]

Why should the U.S. care what a Communist country is forcing its citizens to do, in the first place?

[@irvinwright4075]

Lots of misinformation here. One glaring piece of misinformation was a statement about how much experience Volkswagen has building cars, when in fact they have little experience building electric cars. Their own CEO said Tesla is building them 3 times faster than they are and Tesla has their own battery factory and technology. Poor research or paid misinformation??

[@skierpage]

15 month old videos slapped together to make it seem like a new video. Lame CNBC.

[@bugguy1967]

Probably paid...

[@mikafiltenborg2291]

VW leading over Tesla in "Stone age software" , AND software bugs

[@VINTAGE-AMERICANA]

This network is famous for being wrong. Total garbage this channel

[@billjohnson3022]

Diess also recently said that if it wasn't for their new Wolfsberg plant, they wouldn't be able to compete with Tesla and that plant won't be operational for at least another 2 years...ramped in 2 more. Meanwhile Tesla will be starting their ramps at those 2 new factories NOW and Shanghai is already the largest auto plant in the world with run rates of close to 1M today.

[@stevehan8157]

I don’t consider plug in hybrid vehicles as in the same category as battery electric vehicles. Their batteries are too miniscule in terms of kWh capacity.

[@olpo2001]

100%, it's only legacy manufactures that are using hybrids to inflate their numbers.

[@somefour]

Not necessarily. With a home charger, those cars will run electrically 90% of the time.

[@MyKharli]

@@somefour So dump that fossil fuel bit in a climate catastrophe !

[@somefour]

@@MyKharli The 10% is for the long runs when they don't want to stop and charge. As long as electric is cheaper than gas, people will use as much electric as possible.

[@daremasterco7321]

Hybrids are developed (under pressure by governments) to be able to comply to tighter regulations, not as an idea from the car makers to make ICE cleaner! Hybrids don't count because they are basically ICE.

[@zwzau]

Very insightful! Thank you, CNBC.

[@Dim.X]

😂

[@aluciusd1337]

Yea... GM never released the Wuling. They just had a stake share in the company that did. If they got credit for the Wuling, then I should get credit for Apple's growth just because I own a single share in it.

[@CausticLemons7]

I also find it funny that after a decade of fear, uncertainty, and doubt we still talk about the global EV market in terms of "Tesla and everyone else." Vindication must feel pretty good right now.

[@steveo1574]

everyone wants to model the best car manufacture

[@grahamstevenson1740]

That situation is only really true in the USA where the EV market is poorly developed and Tesla is in prime place. In both Europe and China, the situation is VERY different. In Europe Tesla currently holds a 7% market share of all *electric cars* sold and ~2% of the total car market. It's actually in 10th place with minor players such as Nissan ahead of it i the sales league table. VW Group has the lion's share with 5 brands and ~8-9 different models followed by Stellantis with EVs from Peugeot, Citroen, DS, Opel, Vauxhall and Fiat. The opening of Tesla's factory in Berlin will doubtless add to the sales numbers but it has a serious way to go with it's expensive luxury models only that are beyond the budgets of most.Renault has an electric vehicle available at 1/4 the cost of a Tesla ! I see Tesla's weakness as NOT having a truly affordably priced model, nor does it offer any commercial vehicles in a market with around 10 electric vans. I see the commercial vehicles sector being HIGHLY important. In China Tesla has very strong competition too from the likes of home manufacturers BYD, Nio, Xpeng, SAIC and almost too many others to list. Again, it is not in any number one position.

[@awes5709]

The General US population can't afford these Damn cars. Even with subsidies.

[@MyKharli]

Only in America doofus !

[@TheDocLamkin]

@@grahamstevenson1740 Tesla clearly has a top down disruption model, the affordable 25k dollar car is the nail in the coffin and is planned. We'll see what the numbers from Giga Berlin, 1 factory, stacks against VW's 19 in a year. I hope VW turns into a great EV manufacturer, I'm not a fan of the massive Chinese EV's on the way. Tesla will win ultimately, thanks to its other company ties such as SpaceX, Boring, and Neuralink and vertical integration. besides car making is an Elon hobby to pay for the rockets, so the consumer gets the best product.

[@billjohnson9221]

Jonh and Jane Q Public and all their kids, neighbors etc. They are the winners! Does it matter if Tesla is number one in sales? Does it matter if BYD sells most of their vehicles for half the price of Teslas? Crazy!

[@McClarinJ]

VW better at ramping than Tesla? Unmentioned is the pace at which the two companies can push their vehicles out the door. VW's Herbert Diess noted that it takes VW three times as long to make an ID series car as it takes Tesla to make a Model Y at its Chinese factory. Yet at the Berlin factory, the Model Y will take even less time thanks to major cast-molding of its frame.

[@winchangkou]

Vw cars are crap. After owning four VW cars , I just repeated the cars because it looked good. But Vw cars are crap

[@icosthop9998]

What do you own now ?

[@billjohnson3022]

You pay attention.

[@winchangkou]

I am looking forward for my car to be Tesla , obviously

[@tinytownsoftware3837]

@@winchangkou How so? I have a 2019 Jetta and have had 0 problems with it.

[@tkbuz]

This is a thinly-veiled hit piece on Tesla. No I’m not an Elon fanboy. It just totally ignores Teslas dominance and current growth trajectory. Two huge factories opening this month….

[@bzoned9808]

its not really thin. the news outler is CNBC., which is traditionally anti-tesla

[@geekimusprime]

Thank you for your comment. It’s sad because by default we expect Tesla hit pieces from CNBC.

[@RicePho]

@@bzoned9808 oh shut up dude stop being a fanboy. Tesla isn't the only car making E.V anymore. Not only do they have competition in China but also western and eastern companies are making E.V which is getting better reviews than Tesla. Tesla is like a hype train but their car has been noted for bad build quality.

[@remliqa]

Did you even watch the video?

[@seybertooth9282]

Another triggered Tesla fanboy. I wish you Tesla cultists who flip your sh!t every time someone says something good about VW EVs would direct your anger at ICE instead. When Tesla fanboys are more hostile to Tesla competitors than Musk, something has gone wrong.

[@TipRanksTM]

Another great video, Ari, the housing market and construction sector are ripe for opportunities!

[@xiaoranmo7308]

"without regulation without rules without government subsidies electric vehicles would have never gotten off the ground" sound like every industry to me

[@the80386]

active and passive public sector support helped pretty much every industry take off and succeed. only to turn around and paint the public sector as villains while praising the mythical private sector "innovation" for all the work

[@dariomijacx]

Tesla was selling EVs way before subsidies and after they expired.

[@MattCasters]

@@dariomijacx Exactly, the statement simply isn't true. Governments are in general very bad at preventing technological revolutions or at making them happen. Subsidies can only delay or quicken trends a little bit.

[@xiaoranmo7308]

@@MattCasters what are you talking about, Elon musk receive billions, billion with a B, dollar amount subsidies, If you think subsidies or any other type of government involvement is only delay or quicken the trends a little bit, go check any colonial area how government involvement help business grow or in recent times such as DARPA

[@usa-racistwarmachine3631]

Exactly. Without government build road, how can car maker sells car?

[@steverobbins4872]

You don't seem to understand how superior Tesla's charging network is. 1) Higher average number of stalls per location, so you're more likely to find one that's available. 2) Higher average power output per stall, for faster charging. 3) Better software; you just plug in and walk away, without swiping a card or punching in a PIN. The App tells you when it's done. 4) Much more reliable; by comparison, Electrify America stations are infamous for being out of service when you get there. 5) Better locations, next to nice shopping and food areas. And 6) Way more locations world wide.

[@hybrdthry911]

This video ignores everything going in Tesla's favor. They also assume Tesla is just going to lay down while the others try to expand. Tesla growth is still outpacing the competition and they are still accelerating.

[@robertjonker8131]

Tesla supercharger network is not a advantage in the more important markets like Europe or China.

[@jcinthailand]

@@robertjonker8131 let's wait and see

[@MyKharli]

But tesla cars are bottom of customer satisfaction ?

[@MyKharli]

@@robertjonker8131 Teslas are seen as overpriced and people are nervous over low customer satisfaction ratings .

[@mark72.]

However I'm with Japan's hybrid

[@jeffbaldwin9842]

Forget about battery swapping . Charge at home when not in use. Range anxiety is a non issue among EV owners. Tesla is the leader among manufacturers. China is the leader among countries.

[@doniel2008]

Frankly, I think that’s a blanket statement there. Range anxiety is a non issue only when you’re talking about short distance commutes, which is clearly NOT battery swapping techs are targeting.

[@em-wg7bj]

@@doniel2008 well here in the us superchargers are everywhere and it takes 15 mins to get 200 miles. i dont see how battery swapping is helping

[@Jeetz]

@doniel2008 I've traveled from Canada to Florida with no range anxiety.

[@jcinthailand]

@@doniel2008 150+ miles in each direction is more than enough for the average driver. The average driver travels less than 30 miles from home even when they drive 100 miles a day.

[@awes5709]

Range anxiety and charging is a real issue to city populations that live in apartments without parking lots. You buy transportation to suit your lifestyle, not the other way around.

[@keiththoma2559]

I get the argument for swapping but it really isn't needed. Car charging has significantly improved in the past few years. Even fleet vehicles will have several hours a day were they are not being used.

[@LetsLearnEconomic]

What about batter upgradeability and what if autonomous fleet taxi works 24/7. You need NIO because the battery tech is rapidly evolving so you can easily upgrade batteries rather than throw away the vehickes, or keep junk batteries

[@rogerstarkey5390]

@@LetsLearnEconomic How do you "easily upgrade the batteries"? But having 13 times the number of packs in swap stations. Having to swap them out using trucks when a new version comes out. Having to "chase" the old packs which are still in cars then being returned to swap stations, a d remove them BEFORE the next car in line needs that pack. Having to (probably) upgrade the firmware and/ or the BMS to optimise the new pack type (so wait before driving?) It's a logistical nightmare.

[@ujjalshill6442]

Why not ban cars entirely and make city's more sustainable and profitable by making them more dense and walkable it will reduce obesity and and other health issues and also battery cars are not good either they use tires and building them requires rare earth metals which causes pollution battery cars explode

[@SunnySzetoSz2000]

@@rogerstarkey5390 but that not the fleet need to care, the swap station will work on that

[@danielwilson-rains1807]

nah, swapping is superior esp being able to balance the load on the grid.

[@imjody]

Everyone at CNBC, keep up the incredible work on your videos. And thank you so much for all that you do! Your videos are all such a great watch!

[@ahmedzakikhan7639]

Biased video - they don't talk about Geo-politics. Reason China subsidizes EV is because China has to import oil; US is self-sufficient and has a thriving oil and gas industry.

[@rogerstarkey5390]

Lazy and out of date.

[@ken830]

Range anxiety might be a top concern among non EV owners... but I can guarantee range anxiety is not a top concern among long-range EV (ex. Tesla) owners.

[@davewhite113]

Charging anxiety is. Nobody wants to be a sittin duck waiting to be charged while on a road trip.

[@ken830]

@@davewhite113 are you an EV owner? Where are you charging at? Not sure the risk overall is worse than refueling gas over the lifetime.

[@davewhite113]

@@ken830 If you live in one of the 6 states that buy most of the Ev's here, you might have enough chargers. Most states though don't have enough and most Americans will never buy an EV.

[@ken830]

​@@davewhite113 Never is a long time. Let's come back in 5 years & 10 years (infinitely less than "never"), and then let's see how well each of our comment ages... Besides roadtrips, most EV owners charge at home. I understand that for people that don't have home charging, this is not a viable option today, but things will improve. As EV adoption takes hold, there will be a day when gas stations will rapidly close and then the refueling advantage of the gas cars due to the existing infrastructure will vanish.

[@johnathanepic3790]

@@davewhite113 you should check Google trends with these gas prices. Change is here

[@johnr5312]

Tesla will sell between 1.7 and 2.0 million EV's in 2022. The sold 936k in 2021. They will sell over 3 million in 2023. They are opening 2 new massive plants and produce their vehicles 300% faster than anyone else. Moreover, their technology and their vehicles are superior. And its an American company. Kudo's to the Tesla team! You're amazing!

[@vermontsownboy6957]

2.0 Million produced would be an amazing 2022 number, but it's an optimistic scenario. I think 1.7-1.8 is probable. More than that is icing.

[@brunoheggli2888]

1,3 million max

[@johnr5312]

@@brunoheggli2888 👌

[@Shawnnyyyyyy]

Tesla will comfortably surpass 1.5M in 2022 at this rate. It is likely somewhere between 1.6M - 1.7M barring WW III.

[@MiguelRodriguez-nt5eq]

@@vermontsownboy6957 I agree, as we go on through this year I believe Elon will hit the 2 million or more cars in 2023 instead.

[@jingliao9029]

Tesla is pretty much like Apple on EV, others like Android…

[@markplott4820]

Tesla has been winning the BEV race since 2018, when Tesla BURIED the BOLT.

[@hermanwooster8944]

Bolt was a sad attempt at competing. Lower trims did not even have a fast charging port.

[@markplott4820]

@@hermanwooster8944 yes, the early BOLT had to Upgrade at Factory to "fast " charging.......lol and it was not that fast , slower than Tesla.

[@1HeatWalk]

Recently bolt had to recall all it's vehicles for catching on fire while parked charging.

[@skyworks1621]

Since renting a Tesla 3 LG I ordered one one month ago. Glad to do it right before prices rose again in Europe. Slovenia is one of the worst in EU for EV car sales but I saw now that the people thinging and government iniciative with zero company tax for EV in changing.

[@2bRealist]

If you can afford a Tesla... you are not really in this talk now are you O_o

[@jameswalsh8837]

Well that didn't date too well did it? Nearing the end of 2023 Tesla has wiped the floor with VW and is increasing its lead.

[@Darcsied27]

I honestly don’t think the time it takes to charge is important, vehicle range is far more important. If I have 800 to 1000 miles of range in a charge that takes 25 minutes, why on earth would I want to battery swap? This is where battery technology is headed.

[@rogerstarkey5390]

You don't need a swap, or 800-1000 miles of range. You "need" the car to Outrange you. Then recharge sufficiently to repeat that while you "reset". Nothing more.

[@yuvalw7543]

Public transport is the future. No amount of electric cars can solve congestion.

[@Ranveer_Singh_sangha03]

Thats true and only salutation

[@daviddill5227]

There will always be areas where its not financially advantageous for public transit to traverse in. Too long a distance with few people to pick up for moving about is the killer of public transit.

[@yuvalw7543]

@@daviddill5227 it's an endless loop. There isn't a high demand for public transportation, because there isn't enough public transportation... All the people in those areas who don't have good public transportation, drive. And they don't want to hear about a bus cause a bus is for losers in a lot of people's minds. The *only* places where public transportation won't work is places where, physically, there aren't many people. If there is a place with more than a 100 people, if they change their mindset, there'll be busses there.

[@smoochie3331]

FSD

[@georgeb.3292]

Lol. No. I kind of need my one ride instead of waiting for the bus!

[@brianag9726]

Tesla needs to improve their service. I have had many frustrating service issues with them since purchasing a Model Y in 2021. In my opinion, Toyota is a much more reliable brand, but has unfortunately been slow to enter the EV market other than with plug ins.

[@taitranslatestudio6139]

US already lost to China in the term of EV . The reason is China has more EV start up companies but US is only Tesla.

[@raghuhiriyur]

Lucid, Rivian

[@ninoskaramosmiguel9704]

@@raghuhiriyur yes sure, I haven’t seen 1 of those never…

[@intlgoh5229]

but US has global mass media

[@leezhieng]

@@raghuhiriyur haven't seen any of those cars on the road. Meanwhile in China you have XPENG, NIO, BYD, GAC, Chery, SGMW, etc. all having their cars already running on the road.

[@McClarinJ]

The difference between Tesla competing as an importer in Europe and competing as a manufacturer in Europe is going to be huge. Maybe the reason VW pulled ahead of Tesla in Europe was not preference but because there were not enough of consumers' first choice on the market yet and they had to settle for second best.

[@msconsult6047]

True. And bear in mind that when CNBC talks about EVs, it often includes hybrids, so the picture for pure BEVs is quite different. That plus the fact that as of Feb 2022 YTD, Tesla is ouitselling VW even in its home market of Germany in terms of BEVs, and that's before the Berlin gigafactory starts production.

[@Mr2winners]

Vw might be beating tesla currently... Just wait for gigaberlin to start.... Lolz

[@aurelio-reymilaorcabal9669]

@@Mr2winners Tesla outsold VW in Europe or Germany in Feb, despite having to import every single one , mostly from Giga Shanghai, now Giga Berlin has started & as of March 22 first Giga Berlin cars come out, go check the sales #s in Inside EVs.

[@seybertooth9282]

Nah, that's just Tesla fanboy jealousy. VW knows a thing or two about making cars, that experience is beginning to show. VW made 10.2 million cars last year, Tesla 600k. So.... nah. VW will beat Tesla in Europe though probably never in the US.

[@aurelio-reymilaorcabal9669]

@@seybertooth9282 apparently as VW CEO Herbert Diess says they have work to do if they are going to catch up to Tesla @ 10 hrs/ car vs VWS 30 hours.

[@scottdavis3571]

Go Go Go! We need clean energy now! And faster!

[@enissay9950]

With the price of EVs, most people still cannot afford it even with high gas prices!

[@chrisstearns10]

There are several EVs that are 20k

[@greggpon7466]

EVs are expensive in the us because of trump's tarrifs. BYD yuan is an EV the size inside of a RAV 4 with 510 km range. It sells in China for $26k usd. So around 30 k usd in the United States. If it wasn't for the Trump tarrifs. Is that cheap enough for you? They are selling in Panama, Chile, Brazil, Argentina and I think at Cuban resorts. So if you can't get one thank Trump the communist.

[@jjqq9456]

@@chrisstearns10 one thing is that only Rich countries can afford electric cars.

[@williamcrowley5506]

Never heard economies of scale? Relax. This is a new tech, it is picking up pace quickly.

[@alexl0890]

@@jjqq9456 China is not a rich country yet so many ppl drive evs?

[@steverobbins4872]

This is old and out of date. Pretty sure Tesla is outselling ID.4 in Europe, even though Tesla's Berlin factory still hasn't really started production.

[@icosthop9998]

Old and outdated, yes The German politicians are slowing up Tesla in Germany from opening up. They know that once Tesla opens up in Germany their own car manufacturing is cooked , it is done. Plus there be no more tariff fees increasing the cost of the Tesla cars.

[@grahamstevenson1740]

Who cares about individual model sales figures ? VW Group has 9 models on the market across 5 brands with several that are really affordable. Tesla has 4 quite high priced models. UK price for a Seat EV is £32,000, for Tesla they start at £46,000 ! GAME OVER ?

[@msconsult6047]

Agreed. Even in VW's home market of Germany, Tesla MY & M· are outselling VW ID3&4 by more than 2:1 as of Feb 2022 YTD.

[@ujjalshill6442]

Why not ban cars entirely and make city's more sustainable and profitable by making them more dense and walkable it will reduce obesity and and other health issues and also battery cars are not good either they use tires and building them requires rare earth metals which causes pollution battery cars explode cars in general is a waste of money and time when you can build city's to be more walkable and better public transportation

[@andycamp4890]

Big cities have not been walkable since the 18th century. Carriages, horses and litters were used to move wealthy around be abuse of city sprawl. Then came trams and subways for the lower classes to get to work.

[@johnraue5708]

The best charging stations to invest in are? A friend visited- "Come to our place?" 4 hour drive away with gas van. They arrived 1/2 hour later. 20 min, for charging stop ? An other 10 minute limited charge to get home-- EH! Where?

[@johnsack7903]

Imo: gm started this back in the late 90s and dropped the ball. Then Tesla (once Elon bought them) came through and picked it up. They invest sooo much into this field that they themselves made it a profitable business (with carbon tax credits currently). Imo Tesla is leaps ahead of other manufacturers when it comes to the tech of the car. Fit and finish...eh they could do a tad bit better. Others are catching up to the 2018/2019 Tesla but now Tesla is advancing with diecast fabrication and advanced tech for auto pilot and efficiency of battery kwh/mile. Can't wait for them to get into other industries.

[@peterroberts4555]

Ehh it's not realistic if you put 60 amps in most Americans homes the TRUE power supply will struggle they already have power struggles now in the summer let's put a arc welder in every home and expecting it to work even better the car is not the problem it's the power grid

[@alanlight7740]

@@peterroberts4555 - not as much a problem as people think. Most cars will be charging overnight when grid usage is lowest, and perhaps using computer controls to make sure they charge at times of lowest usage.

[@rogerstarkey5390]

@@peterroberts4555 Divert the same grid energy used to refine oil (7kWh per gallon of refined fuel) and you miraculously have the energy to power every EV about the same distance as that fuel.

[@peterroberts4555]

@@rogerstarkey5390 Sorry to tell you oil will definitely be here your whole lifetime it is that important how it is used is the problem 60 amps is so much power it can jump a air gap to melt a filler material to join two pieces to one having most homes in America do this is a joke wake up

[@timshort9692]

My goodness. Despite CNBC releasing this video just two days ago, most of the information in the narrative is super old and by definition is wrong. This coming Tuesday, Giga-Berlin fires up, and a few weeks later, Giga-Austin will as well. Each of these plants, once fully ramped will become the world's largest auto plants in the world. Tesla is making huge margins on vehicles today - and they continue to improve - and now is regularly increasing their vehicle selling prices just to prevent the wait-times for their customers from becoming too long. Let me be blunt. Tesla is the only mass EV maker today that is turning a profit on EVs. Period. Another important point. Having greater numbers of different EV models to sell is NOT a recipe for success in this new market. It will only take away from achieving scale which in turn will increase costs. Tesla is running away from the packs even faster now. With only some minor exceptions, all of the legacy automakers started far too late getting 'serious' about EVs. Many of them right now do not have a strong enough balance sheet to survive one more recession.

[@ujjalshill6442]

Why not ban cars entirely and make city's more sustainable and profitable by making them more dense and walkable it will reduce obesity and and other health issues and also battery cars are not good either they use tires and building them requires rare earth metals which causes pollution battery cars explode

[@hermanwooster8944]

​@@HELLO7657 More products are often good, but it can be bad if companies offer too many products that don't functionally differ from one another. This has happened before and it virtually destroyed a company in the computer industry. Back in the early 2010s, the SSD was becoming a hit. It was lighter, smaller, more efficient and faster. One company, OCZ, jumped into the market in 2010 when SSDs were expensive and the technology wasn't stable. They poured everything into their SSDs - so much so that their existing DDRAM business started failing. The fledgling SSD market quickly became over-saturated with OCZ products. There was the Onyx, the Agility, the RevoDrive, the Vertex and the Octane, but they were all pretty much the same. They offered different ports or form factors, but they never actually changed the variables that customers wanted - price and speed. Eventually OCZ SSDs began failing just like their DDRAM and they were sold to Toshiba where it died after a scandal with the SEC about inflating revenues. EVs are a lot like SSDs. People are craving longer range and lower prices. That's it. Crack that secret sauce and you will have more sales. With EVs, offering a different form factor might sell better than SSDs did, but there is a risk of oversaturating the market with vehicles offering the same range and power thinking it will gain them more customers. This is not necessarily true. You need to provide what customers demand.

[@1HeatWalk]

@@HELLO7657 it's true, Tesla had a large issue in supply chain because they offered too many customizations. Since Tesla reduced it's options, the assembly line became streamlined and production increased dramatically.

[@MariaDeigo8]

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[@MariaDeigo8]

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[@whitneyhouston6888]

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[@MariaDeigo8]

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[@MariaDeigo8]

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[@MariaGarcia-gv8hj]

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[@gauravrajghimire6396]

As a software developer 19bil is insane amount of money, no way close to what Tesla have invested but the thing is software also get better the more they mature so just throwing money doesn't necessary make it better.. Hopefully they will invest smart..

[@Mr2winners]

Might be curious to go back and sum up expenses/investment since going public. How much that be , 50-100 billion ?

[@ujjalshill6442]

Why not ban cars entirely and make city's more sustainable and profitable by making them more dense and walkable it will reduce obesity and and other health issues and also battery cars are not good either they use tires and building them requires rare earth metals which causes pollution battery cars explode cars in general is a waste of money and time when you can build city's to be more walkable and better public transportation

[@ujjalshill6442]

What software ? Tesla's self driving is a scam

[@gauravrajghimire6396]

@@ujjalshill6442 🤣🤣🤣.. A fellow Musk hater I assume... But yaa there are way better self driving tech out there, but Tesla tracks all the driving data from their customers so self driving is a part of it.. Also everything Musk does is to help him get settled in Mars... Star link satellite system is for communication purposes in Mars and generate extra money to help fund the spacex.. Boring company is to mine on Mars. Those are publicly stated one, and Tesla is not said to be for Mars related stuff, but thinking about it even a little makes it obvious how it will be helpful in mars.. Not just that there is also the OpenAI... Which is for all intent and purpose not that open..

[@Natalis7]

The issue is most Americans have a mind set of needing more than 250 miles per charge. Which is understandable considering how much land mass we have. Even though the vast majority of consumers would be fine with 250 miles on a charge

[@emmakai2243]

No, that's a symptom, did you watch the video?...the state of existing infrastructure, tech, and economics that will take decades to change. If infrastructure is available for me to get me 100 miles per 1-2 hrs of drive time with same ease of filling up my tank in 5 min, then yeah, I'll buy an electric car.

[@rashawnwaiters]

@@emmakai2243 I agree my lifestyle is too busy to wait for a car to charge and nobody is mentioning the price of the cars! I've looked at some of these EVs and I'm here to tell you I don't know anybody that spending that kind of money on a car!

[@fenrirgg]

@@rashawnwaiters you can charge it while you sleep, are too busy for sleeping? Also while buying groceries or while at work, actually it saves more time than going to the gasoline station imo. And the demand is so high that Tesla still doesn't care about uninformed consumers, maybe in a couple years when they have cheaper cars because it's too expensive now.

[@jallapavan]

The fact is , current cars don't give the range what they promise on road practically

[@grahamstevenson1740]

@@jallapavan Why oh why do we have the stupid unrepresentative 'cycles'? They fool no-one.

[@TeslaEVolution]

POSITION 1: TESLA, POSITION 2: TESLA, POSITION 3. TESLA.....Well, Tesla will DOMINATE ALL SEGMENTS. Period.

[@altino3677]

She said " Tesla SOLD almost half a million cars last year " wrong, Tesla sold almost half a million in 2020 , LAST Year Tesla sold almost a million 936.000 , This video is 1 year old ..

[@ensignmjs7058]

Then she was correct.

[@billjohnson3022]

And this year 2M isn't out of the question either yet ha!

[@flaskwater44]

"...but subsidies can't last for ever." Oil: Am I a joke to you?

[@ujjalshill6442]

Why not ban cars entirely and make city's more sustainable and profitable by making them more dense and walkable it will reduce obesity and and other health issues and also battery cars are not good either they use tires and building them requires rare earth metals which causes pollution battery cars explode

[@ivanteo1973]

In Singapore, the government made electric cars as expensive as the petroled ones.

[@HyeonSon]

It is difficult for the American people to accept the rise of other countries, and I also think that the United States is the strongest country in the world until now. But when it comes to electric vehicles, China puts it first. I got my first electric car 7 years ago. At that time, my hometown, Linyi City, Shandong Province, was covered with fast charging piles. At that time, people didn't know what an electric car was. And my hometown is in northern China, and the economy is not very good. At that time there were already more than 5,000 fast-charging stations across the city. I'm in the American Midwest - Oklahoma, and it's mostly gasoline cars. Oil prices are very expensive now, and for a poor person like me from China, it's hard for me to afford the current oil prices. I hope that electric vehicles in the United States can quickly become popular. This is just my own personal wish, because the future of the United States depends on the American people. As a foreigner, I have no right to say anything to America. I sincerely hope that America will get better and better 🙏

[@ujjalshill6442]

Governments should ban cars and make city's more sustainable

[@jorgecintron9674]

They always talk about subsidies like it’s one sided, when the US has been giving oil companies subsidies for over a hundred years! That’s not a joke, it’s really been that long. It’s over $400billion per year last time I checked. Not only that, the oligopoly or big 3 has controlled the auto market for decades and stifled innovation.

[@jcinthailand]

Facts

[@patricioarteaga1469]

One issue that I am uncertain how customers would address is the state of charge. Would they wait until the battery is depleted to 20% or so… or if they need to charge, but the battery is at 50%, would they replace the battery or just charge it? Personally, i believe that this technology would only work for fleet commercial vans or trucks, not to individual drivers.

[@lanceandrewtan8063]

u u L L .. u u

[@Studio89Graphic]

[ But another wave of challenges is in the offing as the federal government and state officials pump in billions of dollars to build out a massive national infrastructure of charging stations to power the EVs. The sheer scale of a charging infrastructure means recruiting retailers and businesses to install and maintain chargers that are expected to lose money in the near future, with some likely to be written off as economic losses. ] Hyped as technological marvels, EVs are boobytrapped with a host of inconveniences and tradeoffs. By now many people have heard about range anxiety, exploding lithium-ion batteries, and the environmental destruction caused by global mining for battery minerals. } Quoted We/I would wait until USA has more of Lower Cost and Hydro Electric Like Canada or France of ⚛ ⚛ Powers Texas Daily Burns Fossils to Generate for Texians Needs... Data below: Last Updated: Oct 19, 2023 18:04 CT CURRENT GENERATION Autumn/Fall CAPACITY MAXIMUM CAPACITY Solar 5,387 MW (9.8%) 11,663 MW 22,163 MW Wind 1,670 MW (3.0%) 12,686 MW 39,897 MW Hydro120 MW(0.2%)389 MW600 MW Power Storage435 MW(0.8%)1,053 MW5,405 MW Other0 MW(0.0%)163 MW113 MW Natural Gas 33,466 MW (60.8%) 54,367 MW 69,890 MW Coal and Lignite 10,115 MW (18.4%) 13,623 MW 14,321 MW Nuclear 3,850 MW (7.0%) 5,064 MW 5,448 MW Just look at the Data (we can't post links of ERCOT Site so we can see the Graphic Presentations would be: Not Ready!!!‼😂 😂 65% of those Odd Days when Wind died down and Cloudy Sky; the Combination of Wind and Solar Energy like a Joke of less than 20%; and the Wind Turbines Stations run averaged less than 18k MW versus its Max Capacity like 40k MW or less than 45% of it Capacity. Don't even think of Solar Energy in this Winter Time in Texas; or even Alberta where Sunlight from 9 AM to 4 PM... 😂 😂 With the Same Data and Graphic Presentations from ERCOT Texas = Coal Generators and Natural Gas daily ran 90% for Coals and 80% for Natural Gas Generators respectively...‼ Given that Texas might have about 5-6% are BEV on the Roads/ Highway = mostly Teslas Model 3/ Y; When all the Industrial Heavy Duty Trucks and Semi-Trailers Converted to Full Electric... How US States will generate their Electric Powers and how the Old Grids would handle the Loads of such Capacities?‼ Cheers,

[@leoncardinal2035]

The whole thing is a COMPLETE disaster!!

[@gigemgreg]

my Model 3 EV has worked fine for my daily non-commercial usage for the past 2 years.

[@Studio89Graphic]

​@@gigemgreg Any Vehicle has its own merits: For Pickup like F150 and GMC Sierra 1500 & higher; and or a Car like Honda Accord/Civic Camry/Toyoda &/or Subaru Foresters = they drivers workers/owners to work and home/Groceries with TCO low. (there have been records that Accord/Camry ran over 1 million Miles). To save Planet driving an EV = We/I don't believe it. Like on a day with little Wind (No Headwinds but not much Enough Wind Energy and Solar) = you burn Fossils like Texas ERCOT to generate Electricity; and the efficiency of Generations are less than 25% for Wind and Solar Powers. And with weather Cold like minus 40°F your Teslas are liability! Updated: Jan 14, 2024 14:34 CT Solar 8,050 MW (12.2%) 19,441 MW Wind 7,199 MW (10.9%) 38,367 MW Hydro4 MW(0.0%) 575 MW Power Storage2 MW(0.0%) 4,940 MW Other105 MW(0.2%) 174 MW Natural Gas 33,018 MW (50.2%) 67,739 MW Coal 12,320 MW (18.7%) 14,713 MW Nuclear5,122 MW(7.8%) 5,268 MW. If one likes Tesla, it is personal Choices; no one will comment; but Bragging about Driving a Tesla would save Money$ and Planet Earth = just 10% Applicable! Cheers,

[@aurelio-reymilaorcabal9669]

Swapping might make sense in commercial and industrial fleet applications in regular cars it is DOA or will be very rare, NIO and China excepted.

[@ujjalshill6442]

Why not ban cars entirely and make city's more sustainable and profitable by making them more dense and walkable it will reduce obesity and and other health issues and also battery cars are not good either they use tires and building them requires rare earth metals which causes pollution battery cars explode

[@Ethaneman]

This video missed the fact that VW admits they can’t produce EV cars as fast as Tesla. They take 30 hours compared to Teslas 10 hrs and VW hopes to get this to 20 hours so the notion that they are better set to mass produce is incorrect.

[@Ausf]

The time per car is irrelevant if they're producing more cars at once.

[@Ethaneman]

@@Ausf it won’t be a relevant once giga Berlin is up and running full speed

[@429mahi]

time per car is lmportant but its shouldn't increase the cost to produce..oems optimise cost to produce and of the factor is time

[@bmw803]

But VWs don't fall apart like Tesla and the build quality is better. Tesla goes after quantity rather than quality.

[@Ethaneman]

@@bmw803 are you being sarcastic? That’s the farthest from the truth.

[@brucel.2919]

I like charging better than swapping ! it wouldn't damage the battery or the life span at all,

[@kaimingraymondchoi9909]

People say China will dominate. People never look deep and say, if China is fully committed to the zero emission target, it has no alternative. China is also aggressively, may be more aggressive than most western nations expanding its alternative energy including hydro, nuclear, solar etc. Do you guys think that is good or bad?

[@MyKharli]

They should dump nuclear as its impossible for a society to remain stable for long enough to maintain them and there waste , Its a very short-sighted folly based on human hubris .

[@deathless3518]

@@MyKharli i think all option is on the table if we’re suppose to avert climate disaster.

[@MyKharli]

@@deathless3518 That's the point , we will not avert it , In mitigating do we really want more unmanageable reactors and waste facilities in the event of war or much more rapid sea level rises etc . ?

[@MyKharli]

@@FowlorTheRooster1990 out did there decommissioning nightmares ..thats why ..to afraid to admit they got a stupid expensive if not impossible waste pile to clean up..thats why , also to subsidize military nuclear know how as would make military nuclear tech unaffordable if they had to go it alone. Still not commercially insurable? now why is that?

[@mizuhonova]

3:00 This piece originally aired in March of 2021 for the people who like to react to information they don't like instead of read

[@onepluslatest]

PROBABLY....WHO IS FIRST....IN GENERAL THAT ONE WILL BE LEADER

[@aftonline]

The state government here in QLD, Australia, just announced a $3000 incentive for EV's but Tesla's don't qualify because there is a price cap of $58,000, and the cheapest Model 3 starts at $63,900. I doubt Tesla is going to drop the price as they already have a demand problem. I'd be happy to be wrong about that however...

[@AWildBard]

Likely you'll have to wait for battery technology to lower the cost of vehicles. Potentially when the 4680s are being mass-produced, Tesla could offer lower prices. But, it may be that before Tesla lowers their prices, Chinese automakers will start exporting more affordable EVs. I think it will be at least a year or two before any of that really happens at scale.

[@aftonline]

@@AWildBard The Chinese already dominate the affordable end of the EV market in Australia. The MG ZS EV andthe BYD Atto 3 are the 2 most affordable EV's in Australia at the moment, (both are about $19k cheaper than the Model 3) and even more affordable models are on the way from BYD and also from Ora, the EV brand of Great Wall Motors, later this year. Sure, Tesla aren't going to compete directly with these vehicles until their proposed affordable EV has been launched, but Tesla's real problem if you can even call it a problem, is the insane demand for their cars that allows them to raise prices knowing that it won't cause a drop in sales. Personally, I think that they should drop the price of the cheapest Model 3, but they are going to sell every car that comes off the boat from Shanghai, so why would they?

[@ujjalshill6442]

Why not ban cars entirely and make city's more sustainable and profitable by making them more dense and walkable it will reduce obesity and and other health issues and also battery cars are not good either they use tires and building them requires rare earth metals which causes pollution battery cars explode

[@AWildBard]

@@ujjalshill6442 I agree we should aim for a more sustainable future. But I think banning cars is not going to be possible. I do not think it's necessary either. However, I could be wrong about that. So many things we do today are terribly destructive to the balance of life that sustains our existence. And our addiction to profits may be the death of us all.

[@aftonline]

@@ujjalshill6442 Great lets just demolish all the suburbs and force everybody into highrises. You first. I like my home in the suburbs.

[@TAHIRMAQSOOD15]

With the way gas prices are right now; EVs are looking pretty promising now

[@2bRealist]

Sure... but what if that is the reason gas prices are high? What if our government set up a situation on purpose.. to make these prices high? What if you are being MANUPULATED into this?? O_o

[@sheldoncooper0]

You do realise that capitalism works on supply and demand. Right now most people are driving gas cars, supply of gas is low yet demand is still high, resulting in sky rocketing costs. As demand for using electricity increases to charge more EV cars in the future, this will just drive up electricity prices. Companies are not stupi, they’ll just jack up the prices.

[@Striker50_]

Hybrids are better

[@cerisem7727]

For now. There's already talk about charging drivers to charge EVs in the future, so we're just replacing it with another alternative.

[@freeheeler09]

@@sheldoncooper0 - hence the solar panels going up on my roof....

[@jetsurfboards]

Ruihua is a professional and experienced EV charger manufacturer, specialized in AC charger, DC charger and Split Type DC fast chargers since 2006.

[@dcbel]

Interesting documentary! Battery swapping is an interesting technology, but charging at home or at work paired with solar seems a much more reliable solution on a nationwide scale. And with a smart charger, you don't really have to worry about battery degradation. 🏡⚡🔌🚘

[@GET2222]

Battery swapping is a terrible idea. You are limited to how many batteries you can swap in a day. What if you are charging and there are 3 cars in front of you? Then it will be 30 minutes before you have a battery. That’s like waiting at the pump 7 cars deep. Then the worst thing of all. A battery swapping station is going to need 2 X the volume of batteries as cars on the road when manufacturers can’t even make batteries fast enough. You have to double your investment of every battery you make, you need a clone. The last thing for me is, if I just bought a new car and now I need to swap my new battery out for an older one with 50k miles on it. Why would I ever want to do that? This only benefits people with old cars. You will never know the true range of the car because the battery life is different for every battery. What happens when you get a dud? Or the machine strips the bolts holding your batter in your car? Or the machine breaks down? For all of these reasons TESLA abandoned this idea and people didn’t want other peoples batteries in their car especially if you are paying north of $50k on a car.

[@newtonrufino1449]

@@GET2222 agree, but there is also the fact that we're moving toward a service consumers instead of owner. Swapping a battery could be an interesting way to "decrease" the charging time when self driving systems are 100% reliable. I can see it being implemented by Uber if they ever achieve a reliable self-driving system. But who knows probably by the time we get a self driving system we also get a better charging/battery system capable of self charging within 5 minutes.

[@dcbel]

@@GET2222 the battery swapping system seems adapted to a business operating multiple identical vehicles, like taxis or delivery. Our mission is focused on smart and fast home charging paired with solar. We really believe that users should have more control over how they want to charge their vehicles. 🏡⚡🔌🚘

[@geden_ahmed3510]

@@GET2222 I wouldnt call it a terrible idea at all. I would call it an unnecesarry idea currently. What exactly do you mean by "What if you are charging and there are 3 cars in from of you?" well thats one of the problems that battery swap would fix... It would only take a few minutes. And you dont need 2x batteries for each car. Not at all. Unless every driver would have to switch batteries before the empty battery is charged again. And that doesnt happen. Its much faster to charge. My guess would be like 1.2 batteries for each car. I dont really understand your argument with older batteries? Even 50K mile batteries have almost perfect battery life. And those things could be checked at the battery swap station pretty easily. Not a big problem at all. If you are really unlucky, then you simply switch the battery again? It works perfectly fine

[@geden_ahmed3510]

@@GET2222 NIO already has a battery swap system that works very well. I can see the problems if you switch batteries at battery stations from other companies. That might cause problems, but generally its very possible to make a good battery swap system. Tesla abandoned the idea because of lack of interest, not because they didnt believe in the potential. It will be a thing in the future for sure, especially to make all the people who wont buy EVs because of the charging times buy EVs.

[@johnl.7754]

China/EU is racing ahead probably since they import a lot of Oil while US produces about as much oil as it uses.

[@pizzadoe7922]

Not the full picture. People are fine with driving small cars in China/EU. While in America, everyone wants to drive those hummers, massive SUVs, and pickup trucks. It is hard for EV tech to power those large vehicles that Americans love to buy and flex.

[@AquaWeiner]

@@pizzadoe7922 For real like wtf is up with them pickup fetishes?

[@skierpage]

@@pizzadoe7922 no, it's easy to put a big battery pack on an enormous vehicle. Look at the Hummer, Rivian, new BMW i whatever, Tesla Model X, ... It's expensive and wasteful, on top of the expense and waste of such a big car, but people are ordering them. The bigger market is in Model Y-sized, not-really-"compact" crossovers including the Ford Mach E, VW id.4, etc. The electric pickup market could be even bigger.

[@pizzadoe7922]

@@AquaWeiner Some got serious insecurities, and they buy big cars to compensate for that. Have you seen how they modify their pick-up trucks by jacking up those wheels - looking like monster trucks? The funniest part is many of them are urban commuters, where there is barely any rough terrain. They are just for show-off.

[@ZSleepingDragonZ]

@@AquaWeiner Americans like everything big.

[@ER-sv1np]

ถ้ามองว่า startup ไหนจะชนะ? ดู Tesla เป็นตัวอย่าง Brand จีนจะแค่อยู่ในตลาด แต่ Tesla จะเป็นผู้นำ เพราะ จีนขาด ผู้นำ innovator succeeded รู้วิธี - strategist วางแผนชนะเป็น => ผลักดันสร้าง innovation ตลอดเวลา แบะถูกจุด เทียบ Tesla & BYD ได้ (ถึงรถจะขายได้มากกว่า แต่ขาด FSD , ขาด STRATEGY ) (การบริหาร valley เช่นเดียวกัน strategy ที่ขับเคลื่อนทุกด้านขึ้นไปอีก)(กำไร=มีการวาง การเงิน นั่นคือ ยกระดับด้านอื่นเพิ่มได้)(ยอดขายทั่วโลก)(ต่อยอดไป new s curve เรียบร้อยแล้ว)(เร็วด้วย ทำให้นำคู่แข่งไปเยอะเลย แค่สิ่งที่ทำสำเร็จก็นำไปหลายปีแล้ว แล้วสิ่งที่เริ่ม plan ก่อน ลงมือ r&d ก่อนแล้วอีก เริ่มวิจัยแล้วขณะที่คนอื่นยังไม่ทันคิดถึงด้วยซ้ำ) - ตัวอย่างการพัฒนาที่ดีที่สุด ก็ Elon นี้แหละ สร้างไทยให้ได้แบบนี้ คนไทยมีงานแน่ Brazil ต้องการทั่วโลก, pep ต้องการทั่วโลก รู้วิธีชนะที่สุดในโลกฟุตบอลแล้ว

[@caty863]

Well done China! I like how the country is pushing for clean nuclear power and then BEVs. That's two side of the same coin. It's not the same as Germany who like to think they are green with EVs while drawing the power to charge said EVs from coal-powered plants.

[@janbenes1029]

You are comparing China’s future electric grid with Germany’s current one. Germany currently has a much cleaner electricity grid. But I agree that Germany’s anti nuclear policy is stupid.

[@dylananderson820]

Instead of giving rich people money to buy luxury cars we need to invest that money in safe and efficient rail transportation. The amount of parking and freeways in our cities is ridiculous.

[@ujjalshill6442]

Why not ban cars entirely and make city's more sustainable and profitable by making them more dense and walkable it will reduce obesity and and other health issues and also battery cars are not good either they use tires and building them requires rare earth metals which causes pollution battery cars explode cars in general is a waste of money and time when you can build city's to be more walkable and better public transportation

[@designthinkingwithgian]

less cars, more bikes. raise chickens in your backyard!

[@derrickwalker6969]

Love this information. Thank you for posting

[@Tinjinladakh]

CNBC has only two ways to upload content. 1. Propaganda against Elon/Tesla '2. Reupload bunch of old videos with different title.

[@daviddill5227]

Swapping batteries won't work long term. Why? Batteries are able to charge faster and faster every model or so that is released. Batteries are also getting better. How so? Well, when solid state batteries are widespread, they are faster and safer (less heat generated) than the current battery tech of today.

[@dinokknd]

Rather, they will never work unless batteries are standardized in their form and location. Unless they do that, swapping stations will only be able to service a few specific car models, making the business case non-existent.

[@daviddill5227]

@@dinokknd You will never get standardized battery size and locations on ALL cars. If I was a manufacturer I wouldn't be in favor of such a thing. Why? It likely would limit the look of a car. Besides if you did that it could limit its range, and there just might be a better more practical and logical area(s) to put a battery on a car. This is provided there were real advantages you could gain that are big selling points for a car or cars. If it were to be completely standardized a specific spot and size on a car you are taking out 2 big potential sales points from a manufacturer to differentiate their product from others out in the marketplace

[@skierpage]

@@daviddill5227 the talking head analysts in this cobbled-together video were appropriately dubious, it will probably only be fleets who can negotiate the three-way deal with the vehicle maker and Ample. However, I would love to buy a $25,000 EV with a small battery pack for urban driving, and then rent at substantial expense an add-on battery pack for long drives. Standardizing an add-on pack is slightly more feasible.

[@dinokknd]

@@daviddill5227 To have the battery swap network work well, you would need good coverage of a country with them. What would the business case be if you are only selling a couple of hundred K vehicles and have to literally fund thousands of swapping stations with that?

[@daviddill5227]

@@dinokknd - absolutely you would need these battery swapping stations in reasonably close proximity to make it work. It would have to have a good supply of batteries on hand to accomodate the different cars and all the various batteries. It would be difficult to pull off. The storage of batteries along with the charging infrastructure to charge a lot of batteries and swap them out seems like a hell of a lot of work. When they stated it takes about 20 minutes to do a swap, you could charge up the battery at a charging station to 80+ percent in roughly the same time. Even with fast charging, the lifespan of the fast charge battery is hundreds of recharges, so I don't see the value of EV slow charging. Would the battery slow charged last longer? Yes, but considering the inconvenience of going to their facility and swapping it out when I can easily drive to a fast charger and get the same genetal charge it just doesn't make much sense or financial sense considering the overhead slow charging is, and its likely higher cost.

[@ketang7507]

Do you read the word in the red strip?what's the connection with ev? 1:13

[@vojtechvoros1549]

In Europe, EV sales definetely will continue to rise in the upcoming years, seeing the gas prices because of the war going on, the enviromental restrictions in big cities, and the EURO 7 emission rule starting from 2025. Seeing the first stats of car sales in Europe for 2022, the diesel will be dead in 2 years. In 2030, at least 70% of new car registrations will be EVs and plug in hybrids in the EU and China easily. Where will the USA be?

[@davidfarrell1062]

Prices for lithium, cobalt, manganese, nickel, and graphite and other materials for batteries are going bonkers altogether and mostly come from the same countries that are driving oil and gas prices high and thats to supply 3m cars a year. When it gets to 70-80 m cars that itself could cause a war.

[@vojtechvoros1549]

@@davidfarrell1062 It will cause less problem as 10 years from now, the materials from dead batteries will be reused as well.

[@davidfarrell1062]

@@vojtechvoros1549 loads of videos on that too. in 10 years time if we have 30m new EVs we will have dead batteries from 3m scrapped EVs which wont go far. Would take decades to have 50% of the dead batteries required. Plus the battery tech probably will have changed so much that the materials or quality of material in new EVs wont be good enough from the recycled material.

[@ujjalshill6442]

Why not ban cars entirely and make city's more sustainable and profitable by making them more dense and walkable it will reduce obesity and and other health issues and also battery cars are not good either they use tires and building them requires rare earth metals which causes pollution battery cars explode

[@ricinro]

@@davidfarrell1062, The US has more than enough lithium for its needs...just need to extract it. but you are correct that it is a supply problem currently driving up prices.

[@Runconna]

The fact that lawmakers haven't even passed a unified charging plug for the U.S. shows how asleep they are on this issue.

[@hotspot930]

We need to change those career and old politicians in DC. Those boomers in the Capitol Hill.

[@JanBruunAndersen]

Or maybe the US law makers trusted the invisible hand of the market to provide a North American Charging Standard, aka NCAS?

[@Runconna]

@@JanBruunAndersen That's not really gonna do much for the millions of non-Tesla's no US roads now. And will most likely slow down the sales of non-Tesla's until all makers have made the transition. The mess was easily avoidable with a little bit of proactive leadership.

[@drg6512]

Tesla by a factor of ten!!!

[@hectorheslop9397]

Battery swapping vs. fast charging . The one thing that comes to mind, is long line, peak-hour, re-fueling pile-up . ( In my country, that is )n.

[@spicyirwin5835]

France ran out of gas bc of Putin so hey Id be glad to wait.

[@unusuario5173]

If they don't have proper multimodal transportation infrastructure in your country and you NEED to have a car even when you don't have parking space in your home where to charge it overnight (condo department, etc), that's an issue that your government should work on. That's not a problem originated by EVs. Look at the Netherlands, Denmark and even Finland (even with snow).

[@donaldhawkins9173]

The thing you seem to forget is that the Tesla could sell a few million more if they could make them right now right now there really is no competition to Tesla the stock market says that Tesla is worth more than Volkswagen Toyota and Honda put together and about half the cars that are sold in China would be called golf carts here

[@grahamstevenson1740]

You're entirely wrong about Chinese EVs There are a few really tiny 'micro cars' but these are NOT the norm. Also I really doubt Tesla can sell millions more when their prices is so high. Not everyone is made of money ! Do you even own a car yourself? The valuation of Tesla shares is delusional and means nothing other than how many have swallowed their hype.

[@paulbedichek2679]

Tesla stock lost tensof billions in one month.

[@wkaurself]

​@grahamstevenson1740 😂this comment aged well

[@michelboudreau919]

Where alll that electricity comme from to recharge the batteries and how will it be produced ?

[@Luka_3D]

Wind, Solar and Nuclear

[@primerinvestments]

Thanks to Tesla for accelerating the transition to sustainable energy. No one can deny this .

[@markfitzpatrick6692]

Nissan leaf sold more leafs worldwide than tesla until model 3 came in 2018. Cnbc needs to do better research before giving teslaall the credit.

[@thepurpleenigma]

I wouldn’t call stripping the earth of rare minerals to create batteries “sustainable” - and there are far fewer supplies of these minerals than Dino fuels. These are Cold facts that no one wants to acknowledge because it blows the eco-friendly argument out of the water. Sad.

[@MxC07]

​@@markfitzpatrick6692 i think hes talking about the first gen tesla roadster shows that evs can be capable and fast/quick. btw, first gen tesla roadster was introduced in 2008, nissan introduced the leaf in 2010

[@sparkysho-ze7nm]

Or catch Tesla

[@Studio89Graphic]

@@MxC07 Leaf in Japan was even earlier and Prius even at 1997 "Back to the Future" ... Check your facts. Not that those Tessie Morons ... built a fwa Roadster by Martin Eberhard [ But another wave of challenges is in the offing as the federal government and state officials pump in billions of dollars to build out a massive national infrastructure of charging stations to power the EVs. The sheer scale of a charging infrastructure means recruiting retailers and businesses to install and maintain chargers that are expected to lose money in the near future, with some likely to be written off as economic losses. ] Hyped as technological marvels, EVs are boobytrapped with a host of inconveniences and tradeoffs. By now many people have heard about range anxiety, exploding lithium-ion batteries, and the environmental destruction caused by global mining for battery minerals. } Quoted We/I would wait until USA has more of Lower Cost and Hydro Electric Like Canada or France of ⚛ ⚛ Powers Texas Daily Burns Fossils to Generate for Texians Needs... Data below: Last Updated: Oct 19, 2023 18:04 CT CURRENT GENERATION Autumn/Fall CAPACITY MAXIMUM CAPACITY Solar 5,387 MW (9.8%) 11,663 MW 22,163 MW Wind 1,670 MW (3.0%) 12,686 MW 39,897 MW Hydro120 MW(0.2%)389 MW600 MW Power Storage435 MW(0.8%)1,053 MW5,405 MW Other0 MW(0.0%)163 MW113 MW Natural Gas 33,466 MW (60.8%) 54,367 MW 69,890 MW Coal and Lignite 10,115 MW (18.4%) 13,623 MW 14,321 MW Nuclear 3,850 MW (7.0%) 5,064 MW 5,448 MW Just look at the Data (we can't post links of ERCOT Site so we can see the Graphic Presentations would be: Not Ready!!! 65% of those Odd Days when Wind died down and Cloudy Sky; the Combination of Wind and Solar Energy like a Joke of less than 20%; and the Wind Turbines Stations run averaged less than 18k MW versus its Max Capacity like 40k MW or less than 45% of it Capacity. Don't even think of Solar Energy in this Winter Time in Texas; or even Alberta where Sunlight from 9 AM to 4 PM... 😂 😂 With the Same Data and Graphic Presentations from ERCOT Texas = Coal Generators and Natural Gas daily ran 90% for Coals and 80% for Natural Gas Generators respectively... Given that Texas might have about 5-6% BEV = mostly Teslas Model 3/ Y; When all the Industrial Heavy Duty Trucks and Semi-Trailers Converted to Full Electric... How US Stateds will generate their Electric Powers and how the Old Grids would handle the Loads of such Capacities? Cheers,

[@ABC12349]

I believe still CNBC is using 2g lol

[@sonalfernando7042]

my biggest concern is range and charging network

[@nicholasrivera9280]

The thing about Tesla is they have the infrastructure and attractive vehicles at reachable prices. That’s why even without incentives they have gotten bigger year over year without support. There are now other useful AND attractive EVs but they are still too expensive and lack great infrastructure to be mass-market. Consumers in the U.S are not afraid of EVs, it’s just that we need more options that match the quality and infrastructure of Tesla and it’s charging network.

[@skierpage]

Teslas are great cars and worth the money, but $46,490 for the cheapest Model 3 is undercut by several EV models. Of course a Hyundai Kona Electric for "only" $34,000 doesn't really help if there are none available and stealerships add a $5,000+ "market adjustment fee" to the sticker. If the lazy people at CNBC were to make a new video instead of repackaging 15-month-old video footage, the biggest subject would be the massive mismatch between demand for all decent EVSs and supply.

[@Itslavishbitch]

They have self driving. Don’t say they don’t. Don’t. My channel has videos of commutes across Bay Area from the backseat with no driver

[@adamrak7560]

@@skierpageI thought that demand was already extremely big, but it has just doubled recently....

[@skierpage]

@@adamrak7560 Yes I think demand for every Tesla model is insanely high even building ~1.2M cars a year, even with Tesla raising prices. An incredible American success story. I think demand for other good EVs is high, but if the manufacturer is only making 20,000 it's easy for demand to exceed supply.

[@ujjalshill6442]

The thing about tesla is it's a cult

[@misteratoz]

Easy. Tesla by the widest imaginable margin. Didn't need a 45 minute joke to tell me that.

[@hybrdthry911]

It's more like 45 minutes of where the big companies plan to be in 2030. Right where Tesla is now.

[@SPDATA1]

EV will soon be HISTORY.....mark my words. Toys fo the boy's....

[@rf2032]

It doesn't matter who "wins." Every emission source taken off the road increases the chance that we'll live behind a livable environment for future generations.

[@rupeshgartaula1569]

Great to hear from you can

[@大尾巴狼-q8n]

不，很重要，赢的国家的人民将变得富有。

[@ohayes6419]

This becomes viable when you convince people that paying a monthly or charge fees as apposed to replacing a 10,000 doller + battery,every so many years I think the battery modules would when you break down the actual cost of ev ownership

[@ValMartinIreland]

A Nissan Leaf Power Distribution Module costs 5,000 Euros and an extra 1,500 to install. They do break down. Mechanics must be qualified in Lithium repair.

[@bru512]

31:44 A critical part of the battery pack is the cooling system. How will battery swapping deal with the cooling system connections?

[@thierryvt]

China isn't the only one with a unified charging standard. Europe has CCS for instance. it's really just the US that's lagging (last I checked at least). Also, the fact that historically the US has always had low gas prices doesn't help with the adoption of alternatives.

[@Hans-gb4mv]

The EU does not force anyone to use CCS. Tesla could have kept it's own standard if it wanted to, but then would have been cut of from government incentives. China on the other hand does legally require the use of a single standard.

[@skierpage]

Unification isn't a problem. Every EV uses the same plug for low- and medium-speed AC charging (Teslas come with an adapter), and every manufacturer has standardized on the CCS 1 plug for DC fast charging apart from Tesla and Nissan's fading Leaf. The hassle is having to sign up for multiple charging networks, but standards are in place for just plugging in to any charger and getting billed, as Tesla owners enjoy with Superchargers. Maybe Tesla will equip its North American cars with CCS adapters and its charging stations with CCS plugs.

[@thierryvt]

@@skierpage Aah so my information is at least partially outdated. The model 3 and y we get in Europe come standard with ccs plugs though and all tesla superchargers are ccs equipped to my knowledge. Not sure about the s and x. There are efforts underway to combine as many different networks as possible into 1 fuel card. I have a new motion card (shell basically) which should allow me to charge on most of the charging networks throughout Europe. But yes, it is an issue and a challenge that will hopefully improve over time.

[@JenniferThompson-fm8fk]

Personally, I think this technology would only work for commercial fleet vans or trucks and not for individual drivers. This is because individual drivers are probably not willing to interrupt their day to replace a battery. They may also not want to deal with the hassle of finding a place to replace the battery.

[@ranma2560]

A Chinese EV company, I think NIO, already offering battery swapping subscription, in battery stations, done in 4 mins. Lots of the challenges mentioned in this video were the challenges China faced about 7 or 8 years ago, very easy for the other markets to copy what works

[@Slipher26]

Why would they need to replace batteries again?

[@Slipher26]

I love it when they say “other than Tesla”.

[@bm8641]

Makes sense for any country that is not a net oil producer. Instead of paying the Golf countries they can make the juice locally by photovoltaic or by wind and hence the money stay in the economy that generates them. EVs are a game changer on the mobility and energy market with impact as far as political geostrategy - suddenly countries desperate for oil they can divert that cash somewhere else.

[@Bertuzz84]

Yeah especially here in the Netherlands. Because we have to import all of our oil, the government heavily taxes gasoline in order to reduce consumption. It's the same for large and inefficient vehicles like pickup trucks that are taxed extremely heavily. Most people drive cars with 1-2 Liter engines because of road taxes and fuel prices. It also makes EV's madly popular here, because energy in the form of gasoline is such a large part of the cost of car ownership. So if you drive a lot, an EV becomes the cheaper option rather quickly at 10 dollar per gallon. Plus everything is closer together, and there are chargers everywhere. So the is less range anxiety. I'm putting solar panels on my roof atm to fuel my EV. Screw spending $400 per month on gasoline.

[@davetjom2807]

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[@eewheezard]

It is not a race! It is a crawl!

[@jamesmorrison7847]

As Elon Musk said, making a prototype is easy but production at scale is extremely difficult. Lucid is pretty much building prototypes over and over very slowly. They will never ever catch up to Tesla.

[@Youtube_Stole_My_Handle_Too]

If you only knew why that message is doomed to age poorly.

[@ValMartinIreland]

Take away the subsidies and he would have nothing.

[@spicyirwin5835]

Never say NEVER u silly goose. Putin was never going to invade Ukraine alsi.

[@wkaurself]

​@@spicyirwin5835they will never catch tesla

[@noobtoob7733]

Tesla will sell nearly 2 million EV's in 2022. Leading the world for EV sales. GM Sold 26 in Q4 of 2021

[@Hans-gb4mv]

GM stopped production of the Bolt due to the battery issues and the fact that all newly manufactured batteries are being used for replacements on existing vehicles. A disater of GM's own making, that is true, but it makes the comparison less usefull.

[@duhaneyparkclassics7484]

All these losers are so sure their re-badged ICE cars can take down Tesla guaranteed... its pathetic lol

[@daviddill5227]

No supplier (Tesla among them) is immune to battery problems at one point or another. If I were GM I would be much happier having big battery issues now in the GM EV infancy, than as a mature market builder of EV's like Tesla.

[@duhaneyparkclassics7484]

@@daviddill5227 whatever makes GM sleep better at night i guess🙄

[@daviddill5227]

@@duhaneyparkclassics7484 - just because GM has stumbled so far doesn't mean they are relegated to 2nd, 3rd or lower status. They are a big company with some smart engineers as all automakers are. It is just when they can make everything mesh together is when they will be able to get a decent EV to market that will get the attention of the competition, the auto press and the masses. Its not an impossibility.

[@weiliu748]

Keep up the great work,CNBC

[@BobBogaert]

The language... China is 'dominating'.... China has been 'the most aggressive'... can't you just say that they're doing the right thing for once? You're talking about EVs, not aircraft carriers.

[@mauricio9564]

👆

[@tmd-w1552]

Thank u! Jesus christ

[@maxl2781]

How could China be right, that's politically incorrect

[@ericli2936]

I think the Chinese people are just doing what's necessary to improve lives. It's not even a competition.

[@longzeng]

Maybe the media should stop looking at this as a race between China and the West, and instead as the mutual benefit of the world as we transition away from oil dependency?

[@cybertrk]

Nothing motivates like fear/hate

[@topkek1194]

Think of it this way, if they view it as a competition they'll be more motivated to make better EVs

[@aleinstein3223]

As China builds one coal plant a week. Responsible for 50% of all emissions. Selling us a bill of goods.

[@uranius007]

Underestimate Chinese CCP’s evil ways at your own peril.

[@RogerM88]

From Oil dependability to Coal dependability.