Modern engine reliability is simply amazing. The fact that wide-bodies are successfully running transcontinental flights with only 2 engines shows how far aviation has come in the past 30 years
@m93sek3 ай бұрын
More interesting imo is the increased ETOPS rating enabling more direct routes.
@cruisinguy60243 ай бұрын
@@m93sekthe fact that twin engine jets are now certified to fly 5.5 hours away from a diversion field is simply amazing, and gives them access to something like 95% of potential routes. Really the only issue with ETOPS these days is the increased fuel burn on a single engine - one can count on everything else working just fine even if the failure was an un contained explosive engine failure. People love to rag on Boeing these days but commercial aviation has reached a level of safety not even dreamed of just 20 years ago. Every year experienced multiple catostrophic crashes whereas now the last crash most people can probably mention is the 737 max, and that was over 5 years ago now. It’s really a marvel of engineering. Commercial aviation has stalled in terms of speed and size advances but it sure had excelled with safety, fuel burn, and range.
@The_Timer_Guy3 ай бұрын
and more importantly the fact that nowadays narrow body planes (such as the a321neo xlr) also have the capability to fly transcontinental which I find amazing
@Bigbanggbig3 ай бұрын
White american europeans technology like always in the history...
@arleigh31burke-zc2om3 ай бұрын
@@Bigbanggbig annnnnnnd there we go...
@AnthonyNeedsTech3 ай бұрын
these engines are fascinating, when I worked at United in the parts warehouse I got the chance to talk with the maintenance techs and I definitely know that the parts are beyond expensive. a black box is about $48k, the main computer is near $1M, I've encountered parts that were small and cost thousands. incredible machines and engineering that go into it. kudos to the maintenance men and women.
@10ftSamsquanchy3 ай бұрын
I worked for a company that manufactured the equipment that melts and casts the superalloys and titanium for turbine blades. The equipment isn't cheap, the raw material inputs aren't cheap, the inspection is extensive. But it's such an important supply chain you need to have extreme confidence in the quality. This is why counterfeit parts are such an issue.
@williamwatitwa35343 ай бұрын
I hope the Chinese perfect this bussiness soon only then will we know the real cost of this parts and engines
@Kai...9993 ай бұрын
The first problem I solved was a poorly designed hook for headphones when I worked as an engineer for aircraft company name redacted. The hook cost $1,400. That holds the pilot headphones. It wasn't even designed right. I tell you, getting aviation certification is probably what drives the cost, but planes are so expensive it's more about delivering on time than cost saving. And of course safety.
@skk39402 ай бұрын
@CjMatthews-h2b downvoted you... rolls riyce is a car maker you fool...
@Cjmatthews87Ай бұрын
@@williamwatitwa3534I don't Chinese engines will never be trustworthy quality over quantity
@richardroth13087 күн бұрын
Hats off big time to the highly trained and skilled technicians in our country who work on, overhaul, and inspect these highly complex engines!
@hassanabdel-hafeez15923 ай бұрын
CNBC doesnt stop bring us great content
@krzysztof35463 ай бұрын
Yes, they even have information from the future. Look at 1:14 - there is an article from September 12, 2024
@randomguy71753 ай бұрын
Comac is the answer.
@MithunOnTheNet3 ай бұрын
@@randomguy7175 LOL, even the Chinese use GE-Safran (CFM International) engines. Faceless wumaos trying to infiltrate comments to push CCP narratives. GTFO.
@courtneymcgowan95613 ай бұрын
It always amazes me how interested I get in whatever they produce. This particular topic I'm genuinely interested in but then sometimes it's like "I didn't know I cared about soybean production in SE Asia but apparently I do"
@mahirooyama94243 ай бұрын
@@krzysztof3546it’s a typo lol they meant 2023 you can find the article by googling it, everyone is human they make mistakes.
@Sacto16543 ай бұрын
This is why Delta was never really affected by the Pratt & Whitney geared turbofan parts replacement issue. Delta is certified by Pratt & Whitney to do complete teardowns and rebuilds of engines, and that's why Delta was able to keep their A220-100 and A321neo fleet fully operational.
@flightsimfantasy97983 ай бұрын
this is exactly what i thought about. On the other hand jetblue and airbaltic are suffering from the GTF PW engs
@no-damn-alias3 ай бұрын
Maybe they should offer their services to other Airlines and make money from that advantage. Be it in wet leases as long as other companies wait for a slot or even offering overhauls to other carriers. Although as Delta I'd be more inclined to offer the wet leases on the other hand when the shortgage is finally over now they have overstock planes. On the other hand they could purchase old Lufthansa A321s. Yes some of them are over 30 years old but I bet United wouldn't mind using them as long as the Max10 isn't delivered if it will be ever.
@chrissmith76693 ай бұрын
They might have their own shop but everyone flying the GTF depends on the same supplier and who gets priority depends on the type of contract they have with Pratt aftermarket support
@nah953 ай бұрын
It doesn't really matter who does the repairs. Everyone is in the same waiting line when it comes to spare parts.
@bl-nb8fo3 ай бұрын
Idk if you should trust maintenance by airlines. Many times their maintenance fails wrongly get blamed on the airplane manufacturers
@karrr15733 ай бұрын
So jet-engine makers let Delta repair/overhaul freaking jet engines in-house, but John Deere won't let farmers repair tractors anymore?? US is so messed up.
@MrYockwar3 ай бұрын
I'm all for farmers fixing their equipment, but in this comparison it would be more like the pilots ovehauling the engines
@elaeiffel3 ай бұрын
Not really Engine makers make their money from repair so there are different kind of contracts but all of them depend on the OWS and overhaul teams from the makers. Large customer like AA or FedEx does have their own facilities but as an extension of the maker's
@chrissmith76693 ай бұрын
Actually, the airlines sign two contracts. One with the airframe maker the other with an engine maker. Most planes have two engine options. When the sign the engine contract they get to pick from several types. They can buy the engines outright and are then responsible for maintenance, or they can pay „by the hour“ or sign a „fixed price agreement „. Big airlines like United or Lufthansa buy their engines and then repair them in house. . Smaller airlines either pay the engine maker for maintenance or go to a shop like United’s for work.
@jdotsalter9103 ай бұрын
The US? You mean corporations making their own decisions.
@kevikiru3 ай бұрын
Although I support farmers' right to repair their equipment, but this is a very stup*d take. You are comparing people and companies, experienced technicians with admittedly one of the most hands on demographics, and jet engines with farm equipment.
@slurpalurple2 ай бұрын
Thanks CNBC for providing dense informational content instead of relying on hype and controversy for views - it’s really refreshing.
@USNveteran3 ай бұрын
Being a retired major airline A&P mechanic I thought this was a well done story, BRAVO CNBC. FLY NAVY!!!
@BetterSubstance3 ай бұрын
The amount of substance and insight CNBC is getting in those videos is just impeccable. Hope that my videos reach this level of quality one day.
@eudofia3 ай бұрын
That's right. And I still don't understand why a lot of people would throw shade on CNBC just because it has NBC in it's name. Meanwhile, from their documentaries to the Make It series, they're pumping so much useful content than all the right wing media combined. Not even close.
@keinaanabdi68213 ай бұрын
I am in my A&P license prep and hopefully will join one of these engine overhaul shops soon. remember me in your prayers guys for a successful journey I will do the same.
@mikethompson35343 ай бұрын
😂😂😂 you will regret working in Aviation
@EnvyTheRealest3 ай бұрын
Wish you all the best in your journey. Aviation is a very fascinating job
@DrMD-13 ай бұрын
Americans heavily maintenance base in Tulsa will hire you in a heartbeat
@Aaron-xi4hz3 ай бұрын
You’re gonna need seniority to get into the engine shop. Won’t be for a long time!
@afterhourshotrods68823 ай бұрын
AMT here of 40 years. Just remember you cannot rush Quality or Safety so don't let Management intimidate you it's your License not theirs. Also train yourself to be very attention to detail! Good Luck. Aviation has been very good to me. Cheers.
@garrickr50842 ай бұрын
I work in private equity and as of 6yrs ago I stumbled onto my first MRO aviation inventory lot deal which was made up of CFM56-3 engine parts. As of today my entire focus is centered around parts deals, teardown deals and engine deals. It’s been a fantastic experience for our firm and our investors over the years. Amazing world.
@sergioespinozaREMAX3 ай бұрын
These videos are always so insightful and informative
@piccalillipit92113 ай бұрын
*AT ROLLS ROYCE* they GROW those blades as a single crystal of titanium - this is why its a LONG process
@elaeiffel3 ай бұрын
That is a pretty standard process now for all engine makers Still impressice
@ypw5103 ай бұрын
@@elaeiffel The Chinese are still having difficulty doing it. They're going with CFM for their initial lot of the Comac C919. And then there's their military engines, where they've been buying Russian engines while they sort out their production issues for their indigenous engines.
@elaeiffel3 ай бұрын
@@ypw510 I can tell you that the comac is not that good and leap 1-C is way behind 1-B and 1-A But you are right, they can't... yet. I was referring to the four makers listed on the video
@rocketscience7779993 ай бұрын
Gas turbine blades are not made out of Titanium except in some compressor blades. All blades in the turbine are cast out of nickel based alloys including single crystal blades. The weak point in a casting is at the grain boundry, so by controlling the cooling process and growing the blade out of a single crystal, you can create a single crystal cast nickel blade without any grain boundries that maintains its strength a higher temperatures. The higher the turbine inlet temperature, the better the overall performance of the engine, so the single crystal blade gives you better performance and a longer turbine life.
@piccalillipit92113 ай бұрын
@@rocketscience777999 These were definitely titanium. The breakthrough they had perfected was growing them in titanium
@jeremypearson68523 ай бұрын
Running an airline isn’t cheap and it’s no surprise when one of them goes out of business. Having worked for four now defunct airlines, I’ve experienced it personally. When jet fuel prices go up, it’s even more challenging. No surprise that airlines have to increase fares every so often.
@blackbox10243 ай бұрын
Personally i'm not against increasing fares for flights. In Europe i've taken tickets round trip for less than $30, there's no possible way of getting even break even at that price. There's no need to take such risks because low profit will eventually cause changes in the inspection and other testing needed for safety thus compromising it.
@drury2d83 ай бұрын
you forgot to include the fat bonuses for CEOs
@randomguy71753 ай бұрын
Comac from China is the future
@flatster3 ай бұрын
@@randomguy7175 China has no clue about aerospace.
@ILoveTinfoilHats3 ай бұрын
Hmmm maybe you're the reason they're going bankrupt if they keep flopping after you work there
@hugolindum7728Ай бұрын
Perhaps the most extraordinary part of these engines’ stories is that today, when they are in flight they’re sending back constantly data to the companies that manufactured them. This is looked after by computer systems and any issues are passed up to human engineers to check out. This enables them to even contact pilots to tell them off issues with an engine during the flight. It enables them too to spot problems that need early preventative maintenance and parts replacements.
@raylemus723 ай бұрын
Good video. One thing to keep in mind. Yes, to overhaul an engine is $5 to $10+ million. That in itself is a big amount, but considering these engines fly for years on these airplanes, think about the amount of revenue they generate for an airline. From that perspective, is not that expensive. Just take an airplane, use the average fare reported on an airline’s financial statement, multiply that times the reported load factor, and just figure out 270 days a year of the airplane flying, and see how much revenue one airplane with two engines generate. On the low end, one airplane has the potential to generate $30+ million a year. Is pretty interesting.
@elaeiffel3 ай бұрын
Air travel today is limited to the customer by price so it is pretty important to keep price of tickets as low as possible
@creativemindplay3 ай бұрын
These guys really dig the expression "north of"
@jayofthebuj3 ай бұрын
😂😂
@JameBlack3 ай бұрын
Every time
@JosGeerink3 ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure I heard that phrase being uttered north of twelve times!
@noahhamilton102612 күн бұрын
💵💰🤡🤡🤡💰💵
@danaildanailov38476 күн бұрын
Dave doesn't know how many blades there are in an engine, yet he manages the process.
@kk4649k3 ай бұрын
United airline overhauls their engines too. Their SFO jetshop is huge and even has a F117 military contract to overhaul their C17 engines.
@rap32083 ай бұрын
When I worked there at the jet shop, it was a beehive but they were also starting to offload jobs to China (because it was cheaper), then I went to work at the terminals and whenever I go back there a few years after, it was almost like a ghost building...so very quiet. I've been retired now for 4 years but I doubt if something has changed.
@ronkirk50993 ай бұрын
When I volunteered for the Air Force during Vietnam, I was hoping to be placed in aircraft maintenance so I could get an A&E licence in civilian life, but ended up loading cargo airplanes instead. I finally ended with a B.S. in Mechanical Engineering thanks to the G.I. Bill when I got out so I got into a good career anyway.
@LearnToWin8232 ай бұрын
No one does aircraft maintenance better than Delta TechOps 💯
@Fluterra6 күн бұрын
These overhaul companies are ripping off airlines! I used to work for a turbine blade manufacturer- even complex blades cost hundreds of dollars to make
@jefferrrson1x3 ай бұрын
Man this is crazy ass engineering man. These people are magicians. Literally. How tf lol
@jase63703 ай бұрын
imagine the genius to design them in the first place
@fivestar60153 ай бұрын
I would imagine A&Ps are just as hard to find as some of those parts.
@Comm0ut3 ай бұрын
If one part fails the engine and perhaps the aircraft may be destroyed. Engines are interesting fun to work on because they're so demanding. Study how cooling air protects internal engine parts from heat which would otherwise melt them to slag. Jet fuel doesn't just "melt steel beams", it melts superalloys unless they're protected by an invisible and complex cooling air system which uses the (many, man tons) of air flowing through the engine.
@Smooththatsme3 ай бұрын
Damn... Feel sorry for the airlines. It's gotta be rough to operate on razor-thin margins and dealing with these crazy expensive maintenance cost
@johndavolta31243 ай бұрын
Lol it is smoke screen about the "razor-thin" margins....
@hugolindum7728Ай бұрын
@@johndavolta3124 The margins are thin, which is why their profits at the moment come from their credit cards etc, not from ticket sales.
@johndavolta3124Ай бұрын
@@hugolindum7728 I don't buy it at all
@Pabst243 ай бұрын
I love these videos please don’t stop making them!
@AlonMoshe-nb8tu21 күн бұрын
What an amazing article. Thank you, really enjoyed watching for some reason😅
@RingoOrevillo-ey5jl17 күн бұрын
Excellent services for engines
@Thedx933 ай бұрын
Very well done report !
@taymazrastin985829 күн бұрын
Great report!
@fakenorwegian47433 ай бұрын
Everyone in the repair facility looked to be over 40. This speaks volumes about the younger generations and their lack of focus and lack of attention to detail.
@Orbital_Inclination3 ай бұрын
Or the fact many manufacturing skills have been farmed out overseas so younger people don't want to enter an industry where they don't see a future, led by accountants who put profit over safety or quality
@CitizenScorpio3 ай бұрын
What.?
@T.S.-eo7my3 ай бұрын
Also corrosive to the workforce is a mindset carry-over from exposure to the computer/consumer electronics industry that some failure is ok, expected, or can be tolerated to some extent. In aeronautics , failure is simply NOT an option….for any working part, person, or organization. Very high stakes enterprise.
@fakenorwegian47432 ай бұрын
@@T.S.-eo7my Yes, very high stakes. Many catastrophic accidents were caused by improper maintenance work performed in the interests of time savings or convenience.
@ArchieCox-k1u2 ай бұрын
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@Drahko122 ай бұрын
You have to wonder how the airline industry is sustainable. The cost to maintain these engines and keep us save is a lot of money
@daytoncostlow257818 күн бұрын
Good reporting.
@Dark_Embracer10 күн бұрын
I am still flabbergasted that even after the pandemic nothing has been learned on how to make the global supply chain more resilient to pandemics.
@darknes780010 күн бұрын
The USA had the past 4 years to secure our OWN supply chain and pharmaceuticals here in the USA. Yet the GOV made it harder to bring mfg back to the USA. Its all about to change under TRUMP !!!!!!!!!!
@jabjab123 ай бұрын
Still cheaper tha bmw maintenance
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@d99183 ай бұрын
I'm always amazed that flights are as cheap as they are, the costs of running an airline, plus the money invested in building airport infrastructure is huge money. I don't know how it can be sustained at prices that beat driving the car in many cases.
@stephenmartinek83153 ай бұрын
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@Blueberrycookie73 ай бұрын
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@TheShowbloxАй бұрын
Flight 191 still haunts American to this day
@upper_cut51592 ай бұрын
SpaceX should explore the jet engine manufacturing industry. They would take over.
@plz12773 ай бұрын
Fun Fact: one of the main reasons Southwest Airlines was so successful was due to the fact the only flew one plane type w the same engine type on every single plane. So mechanics only needed to train on one engine and can easily be transferred to assist in new location hitting the ground running. Parts were plentiful and easy to come by too. Not to mention their regional mindset w flights. But then again, in early 2000s SWA hedged their fuel prices successfully and paid about 50% less than their competitors, which lasted for about a decade.
@KenBarrChannel3 ай бұрын
You guys didn't mention the latest game changer in jet engines: the GE9X, the largest and most powerful commercial aircraft engine. Since GE's first announcement, all major jet engine manufacturers have been in an intense race to lead in this type of engine. I won’t dive into the tedious engineering details, but it’s important to note that jet engines are not only the most expensive part of an airplane-they're also a game changer for both manufacturers and operators. A new jet engine can transform a less attractive airplane into a long-range one, which is the extra mile all manufacturers are fighting for. For airplane operators, reducing jet fuel consumption-the most expensive component of a flight ticket-opens up new marketing niches. After all, an unoptimized set of jet engines can easily turn an entire flight unprofitable.
@robertaries29743 ай бұрын
We love the GE9X
@elaeiffel3 ай бұрын
@@robertaries29749x gives me lots of headaches
@KenBarrChannel3 ай бұрын
@@robertaries2974 GE9X is not just the best, it's 100% American!
@jase63703 ай бұрын
@@KenBarrChannel wait till you see R-R Ultrafan, now thats a game changer
@firstlast-ty4di3 ай бұрын
Have you noticed the increasing use of the cliche "north of"? North of 200 days, or north of $30,000 etc. Is this expression dependent of which hemisphere you're in? For instance, in Australia do they say "south of"?
@howardsimpson4893 ай бұрын
We antipodeans don't tend to use the term but know what it means, just "more than" but part of the 'in crowd'.
@firstlast-ty4di3 ай бұрын
@@howardsimpson489 So, if you're "down-under" you consider yourselves such. I was wondering whether up and down might be relative to the hemisphere where one resides. If the use of cliches puts one in the "in crowd", I must be in the "out crowd" 🙂 But, thanks for taking the time to play with me.
@sdotg3 ай бұрын
Excellent mini documentary!
@philippesails49733 ай бұрын
A great report!
@user-kb8gh5jv9t3 ай бұрын
I remember when a Narrowbody Jet Engine was 1 million and the crazy thing is, it wasn’t that long ago… now we are easily at 10 million +… pretty insane!
@JoseMaria-dj6pc2 ай бұрын
When it comes to jet engine, US is KING
@samwaller40922 ай бұрын
Pretty much GE Aerospace and Pratt & Whitney.
@HookemFishing3 ай бұрын
This is why GE is where it is today, those maintenance contracts are big!
@timames44053 ай бұрын
Excellent article by Erin Black.
@WvvwvvwwVvwwvwvАй бұрын
Fact: Only an Experienced Aircraft Mechanic can maximize the life of most Aircraft Engines and Jets.
@JigilJigil3 ай бұрын
I love jet engines.
@randomguy71753 ай бұрын
Build them
@roshanjay73 ай бұрын
I had a dream of an airliner stuck on the ground due to a lack of fuel, on it were a physicist and his young daughter, they began writing an equation on the inside of the fuselage to try and remedy the lack of fuel, it then proceeded down the runway and did a massive u-turn at the end, bypassing a fuel tanker that was parked there. I think the meaning of this dream is that there are other forms of powering aircraft (and maybe just power generally) that are yet to be discovered (1), and hopefully people are *supporting* the research of such technologies, beginning with the theory behind it (2). Perhaps there is an element of "family aptitude" when it comes to such matters as well, with child being liable to contribute by following in their learned parent's footsteps. I think an element of "desperate need" like being stranded in the dream may help *accelerate* the process by a stimulating a sense of urgency about the whole endeavour (3). Until then I think refurbishing present technology is important, including from an environmental point of view. 1. It might help to *articulate* things clearly, I think this is all ultimately energy but it manifests in various "forms of power", internal combustion is one form of power, thrust from a jet engine is another one, there are probably many others out there which are yet to be discovered. 2. I've had other dreams that may be relevant, such as Professor Einstein explaining the difference between classical mechanics which requires contact between physical points of matter to achieve motion (such as a wheel pushing against the ground), and his pure energy theory which doesn't. I saw a vehicle being at two different locations in "space-time" and the only difference seemed to be the "co-ordinates" at which it existed. I can't make sense of it all but I'm sure someone learned in that field can do so, maybe the energy is directly related to the co-ordinates, or maybe energy itself *has* co-ordinates, and you need to *factor* that in to move the vehicle using some form of power that doesn't burn anything. 3. I think this includes the fact that the planet is becoming increasingly toxic and very much dying from burning fossil fuels, important as that may have been to reach the present state of economic development. I think the *purpose* behind all of this is critical and if it is as benevolent as can be it might help to stimulate Scientific Wisdom. It should also help to hold scientific practitioners in high esteem, including by giving them *public acclaim* for their achievements. 100 years ago the most famous person on Earth was Professor Einstein, today it “isn’t that type of person of at all”.
@hobbes50433 ай бұрын
How high are you
@MKwan823 ай бұрын
Much rather overhauled engine than a new engine with the way they cut corners to cut cost nowadays
@whoseyourchef21603 ай бұрын
I feel comforted by the fact that someone was fishing parts out of a used yogurt container.
@Dead_Bluetooth3 ай бұрын
I paused the video because of that
@simonf84903 ай бұрын
I believe one of the used to be vanilla flavoured yoghurt
@l0ht4 күн бұрын
Yea, exactly. I'm working for Pratt& Whitney and worker would be fired if he would do something like this. I guess there are companies and companies. Also the crew looks like from homeless shelter.
@garrettmillard5253 ай бұрын
Worth mentioning that the (average, hourly) operating cost of fuel is a good 4-5x that of maintenance. Even if burning hotter demands more frequent overhauls, the fuel efficiency gains can be entirely economical.
@cyclonicleo3 ай бұрын
This is a good, basic overview that the average viewer can grasp. These engines are precision devices, with tolerances that are miniscule. I wonder if AA has thought about expanding their business to take on more outside work, separate to their own?
@cyrussumner3 ай бұрын
most jet engines are on a lease contract even the biz jets and you do not play with the FAA .
@MorrisGaitan2 ай бұрын
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@SheilaMink-c2t3 ай бұрын
A very interesting video. I hope everyone is having a great day. Sheila Mink in New Mexico
@Aubury7 күн бұрын
A technical wonder, but the effects of it on the climate has a reckoning.
@wanghaowang57903 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing
@looneylonzo283 ай бұрын
back in the 70s and 80s they had a company called Denalko They were selling engine parts and other structural plane parts that they have been refurbishing from older planes and selling them as new anybody who remembers those years remembers a lot of crashes. Many many planes went down due to faulty parts, it wouldn’t surprise me if they were doing the same thing again 60 minutes did a big story on it and I know all of this because my grandmother was one of the receptionist.
@thetrainhopper89923 ай бұрын
What’s the actual story about why they’re so far behind? Did they just stop all work during the pandemic until demand surged? Cause that would make sense given how stupid corporations are.
@John-bi1lv3 ай бұрын
It's a complicated story. Certainly part of it is pandemic related in that work certainly slowed during the period. Restrictions on in person work during lock downs etc. Also just so much less flying during the period that impacted engine maker revenue since most engines are now sold on a power by the hour maintenance contract with the OEM. However, the biggest longer term issue (which was covered in the story at a high level), is the new generation engines are requiring a lot more maintenance and part replacements. PW and RR both have had major issues with their latest generation of engines. Demand is exceeding supply.
@mikethompson35343 ай бұрын
Airlines and engine companies cannot find decent workers with experience as the aviation world has such a bad reputation of low pay and layoffs so they hire inexperienced workers which causes a lot of damage to the airplanes and components as pre Covid massive layoffs and older experienced mechanics left for other professions bottom line Bad management decisions as usual 😢
@oldhickory46863 ай бұрын
So we have hard to produce parts to be more fuel efficient, but because of the backlog, it forces them to keep running older machines. Sounds completely logical...
@leszekkot33733 ай бұрын
you missed the part where the airlines with the new engines are paying P&W for hours the engines are flying. the overhaul cost is then on the manufacturer.
@Michael-br5pr3 ай бұрын
Honeywell has that type of deal too, we call it MSA contracts - maintenance service agreement
@Stufftowatch213 ай бұрын
CNBC do a video on how jet engines are owned by banks , trust companies. They’re worth millions alone.
@beth19663 ай бұрын
Very VERY good story. Chock full of information
@SanderCokart3 ай бұрын
Louis Rossman would like this video most likely
@taylernrock3 ай бұрын
Lol published 2 hours after the Boeing 777 test flight news is some amazing timing
@TheBooban3 ай бұрын
Lol yeah, the engine mounts cracked. The real reason airlines want to maintain the engines is because they don’t want new Boeing planes.
@Inquisite10312 ай бұрын
@@TheBooban every1 wants newer more fuel efficient planes wtf u saying bro, that was the whole reason behind the 777X in the first place, they could have kept producing the old 777 if it wasnt the case
@christsciple3 ай бұрын
At 1:15 the article is shown to have a published date of September 12, 2024 lol were getting articles from the future!
@srgare35q63 ай бұрын
The newsbenders 😉
@GMY7163 ай бұрын
With all that being said, this means that the customer will pay higher for a ticket. The cost always gets past down to the customer. I don’t invest in airlines too risky.
@Fyx50103 ай бұрын
The problem is that the more efficient you try to make an engine, you are also equally more likely to have a catastrophic failure. The bigger the stakes, the bigger the loss
@Kai...9993 ай бұрын
I guess the work we've been doing in aviation engineering is paying off. In all seriousness the cost in aviation is highly inflated for parts, I'm just saying.
@mikeallensonntag2 ай бұрын
For the airlines that have repair capability its more knowing their aircraft will be flying no matter what where other smaller airlines could loose a flying aircraft due to maintenance. American, delta, united are ensuring they have zero issues which comes at a cost to run these facilities.
@urbanstrencan3 ай бұрын
Didn't imagine that plane engines are such a problem for flight industry
@davidwells25152 ай бұрын
Shouldn’t the question be how to make parts and engines cheaper and last longer?
@mitchellbutler70682 ай бұрын
Composite blades will be interesting as the years roll by ….
@jhmcd23 ай бұрын
Hey, CNBC, I am still waiting for an in dept story that looks at Airbus' bribery scandal, the WTO ruling against Airbus, and now I've learned, the EU's attempts to block maintenance companies from certifying for Boeing aircraft repair services within Europe. I also love how you have a story on airliner engines, mention Boeing and Airubs, take not one but two swipes at Boeing, then don't even mention the fact that Airbus A320neos and the A220's using the Pratt and Whitney Geared Turbofan engines are being routinely grounded for maintenance issues due to the engine's design. Every time you take a swipe at Boeing, I am going to bring that up. That being said, yeah, I used to fly these things and I worked closely with out maintenance staff, this is one hell of an industry, and its really the FAA's fault for it being so hard to get new parts (partially, by the thing with the British company plus the Chinese component issue proving why they are so hyper, I didn't say the FAA's reasons weren't justified). There are easier ways to get these parts, but until you get through the miles of red tape to get the certifications, its will be hard to do it. That being said...how many planes are up in the air per day and how many have engine problems? Clearly, something is working.
@Starship0073 ай бұрын
Airlines rent the engines. Pilots calculate power levels to save fuel and wear and tear on engines. No full throttle takeoffs
@nunyabusiness74773 ай бұрын
The numbers just don't really seem to make sense. Several billion dollars for a new engine. He said that singular as in one engine can run several billion dollars and take 15 years to pay itself off. Somebody's lying, being ripped off, scammed or something.
@Steelcrafted3 ай бұрын
I think, arguably, the WINGS are the most important part of an airplane.
@ronaryel64453 ай бұрын
Numbers on overhaul are too low. An overhaul of a large turbofan for a widebody could run as much as $30 million.
@timwilliams20353 ай бұрын
low emission aero derived industrial gas turbines running pipe lines all over are not cheap either
@prasadrao28952 ай бұрын
So now airlines don't want to repair engines.
@carvalhoribeiro3 ай бұрын
I can learn a lot of things from this content. Thanks for sharing this.
@jfbaro23 ай бұрын
China and Russia are WAY behind, but still trying to have their own technology for efficient engines
@weareallequal223 ай бұрын
15 billion profit for GE basically for parts and maintenance, imagine how much cheaper flying would be if GE only made 7.5 billion
@jbond1193 ай бұрын
HPT blades can be a lot more than $30K each
@Mark-sq8mh3 ай бұрын
i think that such price is for a fan blade
@mattmullett95213 ай бұрын
And they put him saying there are 40-60 blades over video showing that there are clearly 100s of blades in an engine. Maybe he was talking about one disk.
@jbond1193 ай бұрын
@@mattmullett9521 yeah on a -7B the compressor spool alone has probably around 80/90 airfoils (although since those are on the "cool side" of the engine they aren't expensive) but the HPT1/2 will have at least another 60 blades each on them and those suckers are more than a car, and they almost always fall out at every OVHL.
@chaseo45572 ай бұрын
No… not HPT blades only fan blades specifically for 7B
@seanoleary8383 ай бұрын
Just had an engine shut down on takeoff in San Diego last week, past point of no return so we took off on one engine. Emergency divert to LAX…I want to see the maintenance records on that engine.
@Orbital_Inclination3 ай бұрын
All civil airliners tend to be Perf A anyway, so perfectly safe to take off following a failure of one engine
@JC-gu5cf2 ай бұрын
I wish car engines would last 30 years 🥺
@DrPhilby2 ай бұрын
So engine price is 10 million. And overhaul is 5bmillon ?
@BlueJazzBoyNZ3 ай бұрын
Will the Aircraft Engineers actually doing the work see a fair percentage...? !
@aizrh883 ай бұрын
Clearly the answer is no
@BlueJazzBoyNZ3 ай бұрын
@@aizrh88 Oliver Twist Sir Can I have some more...
@effervescent_smegma-s1wАй бұрын
Absolutely not
@michaelshehan2 ай бұрын
Im part of the designer engineering team at prat and whitey.
@JatinV13 ай бұрын
Woah, No mention of how P&W engine delays caused GoAir to go bankrupt!
@Michael-br5pr3 ай бұрын
Where my Honeywell Phoenix Sky Harbor Repair & Overhaul boyos at??
@abdul-kabiralegbe56602 ай бұрын
0:30 - I would have imagined jet engines have significantly more blades than he mentioned. 🤔
@AshelyEdwinАй бұрын
the only thing I noticed from this is that American Airlines is using a harbor Freight US general toolbox 1:42
@jatigre12 ай бұрын
I wonder how much in house metal 3D printing they're using these days to cut costs.
@xinfuxia38093 ай бұрын
There hasn’t been a Boeing or Airbus airliner crash due to engine failure for years, hopefully never.