How Netflix Lost Its Edge To Disney+

[@Bomi24]

The only thing I dislike about Netflix is that they don't give a lot of their originals time to grow... Not every show can blow up immediately like Stranger Things or Squid games. Stop cancelling shows after one season.

[@mra.prasetio]

Agree to that, art is art. You can't cancel art just because a bunch of people don't like it. Even they weren't forced to watch it, still huh.

[@Metacognition88]

Not only having one season but only have like 6 episodes in a season. It's so limiting and frustrating.

[@Bat_Boy]

I still haven’t finished Stranger Things. I got bored. Too many dumb movies, I dropped Netflix.

[@FeScully]

I think the binge format has something to do with that. People watch in different rhythms, hard to find someone who is in the same episode as you. If you wait too much, there’s already something else to watch. And you have to choose between watching something your friends have already watched or save it for later and watch the new thing. This way shows don’t have time to build momentum.

[@sebastianpenales2861]

RIP Mindhunter

[@residentevil4life]

it was bound to happen as companies like Disney and HBO decided to take a piece of the pie and hence removed their catalog from Netflix. I remember the good old days of having an endless amount of classic films and shows to watch but now there are so few and basically you're stuck with just Netflix original shows/movies.

[@dannyross8]

& Yet They Keep Raising The Price Lol. Netflix's Logic Less Content=Higher Prices

[@angelmegatraveler]

Same here. Before the other companies started their own streaming services and take away their contents from Netflix, it was definitely best place to whatever you wanted to watch. As the media reporter mentioned, you could basically cut your expensive cable(cord-cutter) and effectively live off just having Netflix because it was super cheaper than cable and it has all the content in the world. But now all contents are separately distributing among other streaming services which if you subscribe to them all can cost together the same expensive price as a regular basic cable.

[@bladerunner53]

I used to watch Netflix only for foreign shows but the govt here in India started censoring online content too. And i went back to pirating again. Also because of too many streaming platform.

[@SecondTake123]

@@dannyross8 True! 20/month is ridiculous

[@arbaz79]

@@bladerunner53 censoring how?

[@unfilteredwithmatt7458]

Netflix has become a graveyard of unfinished shows with no end in sight.

[@esmolol4091]

Disney does the same, just worse and less original.

[@senpaiwaifu9885]

@@esmolol4091 Opinion dear, disney+ are way more affordable than netflix. Disney+ got yearly subscription on the other hand netflix charges monthly with packages that does not make any sense. Disney+ give you 4k in all packages and netflix give you 1 packages in 4k at a very high price per month. 4k compression are better on Disney+ than netflix.Well for me Disney+ is slowly taking the throne.

[@esmolol4091]

@@senpaiwaifu9885 If you like forced inclusion and lgbtq+ in all series, all power to you

[@dom1abc1mbc]

and pushed woke agendas

[@wrestlinganime4life288]

@@esmolol4091 I mean anime are full of lgbt stuff, people don't have a problem with that 😂

[@cw442]

All the hate Netflix gets lately but at the end of the day they have better adult oriented content than D+. The Crown, Cobra Kai, Narcos, Lupin, Cyberpunk etc. As well as it'll randomly have a great hit like Squid Game, or Stranger Things. It has great foreign language content like Attorney Woo. As well they have a lot of interesting reality tv and game shows. D+ has a lot of stuff that's nostalgic or you can have for your kids but in terms of original new content it's just milking Marvel and Star Wars both of which are probably over milked at this point.

[@lionessstarseed6812]

Diversity as well: I became a huge K-Drama lover (Caribbean-Westerner) because of Netflix, and I’ll stay right there to dive deeper into the content collection and explore the genre ad nauseum because they’ve made it convenient and easy.

[@scz798]

D+ is boring. You're absolutely right about Marble and Star Wars. They should have just let Netflix keep Jessica Jones and the other Marble hits.

[@stevee2639]

You have typed my exact thoughts in your comment. Team Netflix all day. D+ is basically a kids streaming service

[@NPAMike]

Right plus Netflix is more expensive than DisneyPlus if Disney charges that much they would lost of subscribers and plus Netflix still has the best user interface.

[@SuperKillerdog]

Finally, someone is saying it!! It’s just constant hate from the greedy companies.

[@Founders4]

Netflix broke the cardinal rule, never remind your customers you’re a subscription service. Frequent price hikes, subscription sharing crackdowns, and the addition of an ad supported tier. Keep your customers coming back, don’t scare them off to find their content elsewhere.

[@kenb6418]

Their mistake was not buying up as much content as they could while they were swimming in money. Instead they let Disney buy up that content, like FOX, or AT&T that bought up Time/Warner. Content is king... the more you have of it... the more customers you will have.

[@ShaferHart]

@@kenb6418 they never had that much money to begin with so they couldn't have bought all that content outright. Just googled how much they paid for leasing Friends for a couple of years. Content owners might've been slow to figure out streaming but they are not stupid.

[@Erick-ev5zt]

Well said. especially the password sharing thing. Netflix became paranoid and started policing sharing of passwords. It was a huge turn-off!

[@ivand0007]

Sthu

[@zarimc]

I truly think Netflix trying to crack down on password sharing and make subscribers pay more is going to backfire.

[@reheyesd8666]

They only care about what the shareholder wants, this is the issue with public companies. Its to make the shareholders feel like the top line will grow

[@bonkdotioimealol]

Just limiting devices watching is tough. My parents use my 2-device account, so i can only watch at my free time

[@Gadavillers-Panoir]

Yes, where i live; login sharing is a common practice and the cost of the subscription is divided amongst the sharers. But if one person is forced to pay the entire amount, it quickly becomes unaffordable and so everyone will stop watching.

[@Gadavillers-Panoir]

@@P.90.603 yup the account holder pays the full amount each month and the rest of us pay the account holder our share of the cost.

[@Gadavillers-Panoir]

@@P.90.603 what in the world? no idea what you are talking about bruh 🤔🙄

[@icomefromcanadia2783]

Netflix has continuously raised prices while simultaneously losing content, shifting away from the binge model, (one of the defining differences over cable,) and infamously cancelling new IPs with insane speed and frequency. Of course they're losing subs! Streaming being binge-able, and consolidated into 1 or 2 sources for an affordable price was the main thing getting ppl to stop pirating. Now companies are showing too much greed and have fractured the streaming landscape and charging silly amounts, (and thinking it acceptable to constantly raise prices). Who can afford to actually subscribe to all of these? So congrats, instead of having everyone subscribed to 1 or 2 and sharing the profits every month, ..now you just get someone subbed for a couple months, then cancel and switch to another, and cycle through as they watch things, ..or they just password share or pirate. Focus on customers and profits will follow. Focus on profit and customers will leave.

[@ZoneSkye]

I will say for the decision of whether or not to use the binge model, it depends on how the title in question might be released elsewhere. Anime fans in the US use the term “Netflix jail” for exclusive titles that are being aired week-to-week on TV in Japan or even on Netflix there (or other regions that aren’t the US), but are being withheld from US audiences until some time after the show/season has finished so it could be released in one bingeable drop. They failed to take into account the expectations of anime audiences stateside for how week-to-week releases are handled by competitors like Crunchyroll that release episodes hours after they air in Japan, and were largely clowned on by such fanbases. Though nowadays, titles like the recently released Cyberpunk Edgerunners have successfully implemented the binge model because it was released in all regions in that format. So, the lesson for Netflix here is that, especially for international titles, they should adjust their release format to be consistent across all regions. If a title is being released week-to-week in its originating country, don’t make some segments of the world to wait to be able to binge, killing discussions or otherwise losing audiences to pirated sources in the meantime. And likewise, if a show is dropped all at once, then it definitely should stay that way across all regions.

[@RealNath]

The shift from binge model is a miscomprehension. IIRC someone (I forgot who he is) said "should (shift away)" (or something like that) but someone mistook it as "is (shifting away)"

[@praneethjayasimha5943]

Netflix is actually decreasing prices in india

[@TrueFaith94]

Time to pirate again

[@matthewoates]

They cancel shows if they're not getting the figures they wanted, and the move away from binge watching is to keep people subscribing week on week and to increase the water cooler chat around them. Content is key, and aside from a few great originals Netflix has, Disney is making more high quality original programming and not filling their homepage full of older or cheap reality shows and throwaway comedies.

[@MRLONG758]

Netflix needs to focus on quality over quantity, release shows weekly to build a buzz and maybe don't cancel a popular show after 3 seasons because it's not bringing in new subscribers.

[@boomboominroom]

I came comment this. 85% of their original content is garbage. Focus on quality!

[@raylopez99]

@@boomboominroom Quantity is quality. For lots of young people. See my top post comment somewhere in the comments, though as an old fart I agree with you.

[@Anonymous_Lee19]

Agree! Netflix only need to use a portion of its $17 billion annual content budget to produce big-budget movies or tv series to keep its subscribers. Assuming a budget of $100 to $200 million each, Netflix can easily produce one big-budget production every month. The remaining money can be used to buy third-parties content and mass-produce the other nonsense.

[@ayushbachan6113]

Please, the fact they release it all at once shows how much they value their subscribers, rather than every week to increase subscibers.

[@___Anakin.Skywalker]

Nah, negas don't not like to wait. Give me the whole season not per episode

[@mashondaknight9132]

Netflix is losing because they're constantly raising prices and they're prematurely canceling shows that were actually good it's sad but true.

[@carloconopio6513]

You can blame them because if the show is not profitable how can Netflix continue the tv series. Its ok if the artist director etc of that show accept lower salary because there tv series didnt hit.

[@pb.j.1753]

@@carloconopio6513 FX' The Americans was not a ratings hit from the beginning. It did not get called the best drama on TV until Season 3. FX held on to the critical acclaim and the quality they delivered. Netflix does not believe in its own content to be successful in the long run. They are fast-paced and it is backfiring.

[@Vivek-nh1vh]

Basically the problem we had with 100s of cable channels, we are going to end up with 100s of streaming services. 🤦

[@JuiceAddiction]

Back to pirating

[@ShaferHart]

@@JuiceAddiction "back"

[@tek1645]

@@ShaferHart yes "back", because before it was convenient to pay a good price and get all the content you'd want. Now you pay more for way less...

[@michaelr.7805]

@@tek1645 I don't think that's what he meant by 'back' lol

[@aden895]

@@michaelr.7805 What did he mean?

[@FinancialShinanigan]

Quantity can only take Netflix so far, they need to not cancel original shows that can increase their IPs

[@praneethjayasimha5943]

Why Netflix still has $300 billion market cap? Its worth is only $30 billion

[@hunk0075]

The obvious winners here are the internet providers. No internet no streaming.

[@brysonhahn8736]

in the late 00's through the 10's many of us cut cable, in exchange for netflix. in '22 all the content that was on cable is spread across a dozen streaming services, to keep up with it all, one may need to spend as much as they did on cable maybe even more. i feel like we got screwed here.

[@farirn642]

true but to survive, companies are going to bundle like Hulu and Disney plus then it will be back to cable-esque services. That's my prediction.

[@williamjoyner2306]

@@farirn642 Those are only bundled because Disney owns Hulu.

[@TheQuickyouknow]

A dozen bro? You just need the big 3, maybe 4 if you add Hulu to your Disney to get the network shows.

[@JJs_playground]

In a way ya we did get a little screwed BUT we gained the ability to "churn" between different streaming services. Something the old cable model didn't allow you to do. Now i can watch Netflix for a few months, stop that and go to Disney+ stop that and go to another streaming service.

[@jennifertarin4707]

@@TheQuickyouknow you can no longer watch shows like Chicago Fire on Hulu without paying for their live option.

[@RealShaktimaan]

The thing is they didn't. Everything on Disney is crap for adults. Netflix is way better then Disney.

[@mastahfrederique1147]

When a new Marvel or Star Wars show comes out on Disney+, it's all any of the adults in my life are talking about. Now, the same can be said for big Netflix shows like Stranger Things, Squid Game, or Cobra Kai, but "adult" and "including disturbing or sexual imagery" are not the same. Plus, families are a larger market and allow you to get long-term, dedicated customers as children grow up watching your content and becoming emotionally attached to your IPs.

[@mastahfrederique1147]

@@P.90.603 I agree. I loooove Stranger Things and Cobra Kai, so I have a Netflix account. I also looove Star Wars, Marvel, Disney, Pixar, and National Geographic, so I have a Disney+ account. I have Prime, Hulu, Peacock, and Paramount+, too, and I rotate some others out and share an HBOMax account. I can watch whatever I want whenever I want, and if it becomes too much to pay, I swap some out that don’t have anything new for me at the moment. If you use it right, the streaming industry really is incredible.

[@ylstorage7085]

right... we are using feelings now like kids or we are "adult" enough to listen to the hard data? You may say something to feel macho in front of other peers, but without the scrutiny of external factors, what you watch alone in your living room is quite another story.

[@nnenne4]

Yes especially since Netflix has way less downtime than Dis+

[@mastahfrederique1147]

@@nnenne4 Downtime? I never have downtime issues with either. But I live in the Los Angeles area, so I wonder if my region is just very well supported.

[@peterlane1391]

Netflix is going to have to diversify. It needs new revenue streams.

[@Raymanujan]

No pun intended.

[@MoneyGist]

Just cancelled both my Netflix and Disney+ subscriptions to stick with Amazon Prime. I need my groceries delivered.

[@Bat_Boy]

I’ve watched some VERY great movies on Prime. Obscure, small films that were great.

[@jeretso]

Prime does like to tease you with shows for a few more dollars. Stay strong don't click the bait.

[@MoneyGist]

@@jeretso Lol. You're right about that. But I just stay on the handy "Free to me" tab and I'm okay.

[@Sodainspace]

I think Netflix is focusing too much on the account sharing and VpN which is excluding a lot of users, what made Netflix so widespread is accessibility, now they r killing that off. instead they should focus on making high quality content. Most of their new content is low quality

[@Mark-ld5um]

Netflix is - Too expensive - 4K picture quality is far below Disney+ and Prime - Netflix Originals are 99% terrible - Lost most of their catalog to other streaming services Disney+ has - Marvel and Star Wars - Incredible 4K picture quality - Very affordable

[@trevornganga7298]

How much did Disney pay you?

[@mannymac82]

I think cracking down on password sharing will backfire. It will cause them to lose more customers than what they will possibly gain. So far their roll out of it has been a complete failure. People are either ignoring it canceling their subscription

[@goochpunchtickles3617]

In my experience, Netflix is the most reliable streaming platform to run without issue on any device, on Wi-Fi or on cell carrier service, anywhere in the USA.

[@nnenne4]

Yup, Dis+ and Prime are always having downtime

[@jeretso]

When I load the latest D+ movie it just spins .

[@gabbebelle]

D+ always crashes and the functions are clunky. Hard to browse episodes.

[@harrytilley9637]

found the Netflix stock owners

[@jeretso]

@@harrytilley9637 if you have a retirement fund then you probably own both netflix and disney

[@travisspazz1624]

Unless something drastic happens, Netflix isn't going anywhere. It does hurt that consolidation has made them lose so many big IPs.

[@praneethjayasimha5943]

Their business model sucks

[@jacobnapkins1155]

They're competing against the house of mouse and Batman Netflix is done

[@nassernathan]

@@jacobnapkins1155 that's one way to say it

[@j6873]

They need to consolidate themselves. Partner up with a mega corp like Microsoft. They are the only one among the FAANG/MAANGA companies who do not have a film streaming service. It will help Netflix’s survival.

[@jacobnapkins1155]

@@j6873 that's. Good point Microsoft at least has their gaming division they could use as ip's to make content based on. Maybe even Sony with Sony pictures entertainment

[@Sempuukyaku]

Netflix has NO WAY of competing with the massive juggernaut that is Disney. Period.

[@rochester3]

disney is for kids

[@definitelynotyourbestfriend]

@@rochester3 the disney ceo said that and he got fired

[@witness1013]

Wow, more choices mean a divided market ? Who knew. You guys see such geniuses! 🤓

[@olpkol]

"Sorry, Disney+ is not available in your region."

[@dominiquetheeasyminimalist]

Do you know that they had around 600-700k subscribers in Russia? When the war with Ukraine started, Netflix got out of Russia, explaining a huge share of the subscription loss 🤷‍♀️. Obviously there’s now competition, but they’re still #1

[@aswinJagannadhan]

Netflix is now battling against a bundled system. This companies like amazon, disney, hulu (not including the bundled products they give from their other products) already provide sports, news, movies(which are also released in theaters), discovery/national geographic and all the remaining varied entertainment stuffs. They either have to ramp up with extravagant spending to cover all these or become a subsidiary of some big company

[@noneyourbusiness2994]

The reason we have left is because the price went up and the content went down

[@Bat_Boy]

The quality of the content went down. Yes. I agree. Great point.

[@santiagoserrano1964]

I think is unfair, since Netflix has a much broader variety compared to Disney, i am considering closing my Disney account.

[@TheQuickyouknow]

Facts, Disney is only for kids and Marvel or Star Wars fans. No Stranger Things, The Witcher, Ozark, The Crown, etc.

[@praneethjayasimha5943]

@@TheQuickyouknow how many times you will see stranger things and witcher? Once you are done watching it has zero value.

[@TheQuickyouknow]

@@praneethjayasimha5943 I've rewatched season 1 of the witcher 3 times, and season 2 twice. And there's a Witcher prequel coming out in December. I don't see how it has no value. Not to mention watching The Last Kingdom and the new Vikings show which scratches a similar itch. Either way, that's besides the point. Point is diversity of content, not rewatch value.

[@praneethjayasimha5943]

@@TheQuickyouknow sorry dude many people have only 24 hrs a day, they dont have time to rewatch. Lucky you have 40 hrs

[@TheQuickyouknow]

@@praneethjayasimha5943 That's a pretty weak answer. Besides the fact that you assumed people watch entire seasons in a day, by your logic no content has value after you've seen it. Meaning only new content has value. By your own logic Netflix is the best because it releases the most shows every year. Disney Plus is useless because I've already seen the Marvel movies in theaters. I'd never want to watch Infinite War again 🤡

[@hardchooligan]

Netflix made 2 giant fatal blunders. Cracking down on passwords and canceling their own successful shows

[@notyourboi01]

Quality over quantity is Netflix's biggest fear.

[@shawnevans26]

The one thing Disney Plus has going for them. They can slowing keep adding FOX show and movies to the service, and FOX has a lot of content. I also believe in a few years they will add a HULU tab to Disney plus like they did with Stars.

[@shawnevans26]

People forget they have National Geographic. There is so much potential with this.

[@peathgang]

doubt the hulu tab. there a better chance of them working for amazon

[@tsukuneboy]

It happened in any other part of the world except NA......we from other countries enjoy hulu's content from Disney+ without any additional price

[@mack-uv6gn]

The pandemic push forward a lot of growth for streaming and now it’s slowing. Easy to figure out because there’s only so many subscribers to go around.

[@erissroc]

This aged well!!! Disney failing way harder than any other large media orgs.

[@Chris-ng8du]

i think netflix relies too much on algorithmic data to decide what shows they produce, i wish they would stop pouring so much money into just one or two shows and take more of a risk on smaller directors and artists

[@Basumatary96]

For low income countries the issue is the pricing of Netflix. Disney+ and Amazon are available for just over $18 for a year, while for Netflix it's around $95 for a year. The vast majority of people cannot afford to pay such a large sum.

[@くんヴィッツ]

Sometimes they can, but they don’t feel it worth it

[@asheelu]

I have them all but mostly watch Netflix .

[@iamjohnporter67]

6:55 right there is where the problems start. These companies wanted to launch their own streaming service, but then because its on their own service you have to still pay a monthly subscription just to watch their content. So like for example if you wanted to watch any Disney Movie, you cannot do that because all of it is on Disney Plus. You will never find any Disney content on Netflix and you still have to keep paying money just to see your shows but they are on different services. It causes nothing but problems and having to spend more money.

[@southrichmondtofl]

Getting back to paying as much as cable, now they're adding advertising and eventually it'll cost as much as cable with less choice. Like Uber, used to be cheap and easy, now it's as much as a taxis and the taxis are gone. Amazon has taken Thursday night football from NFL network now which was a power move to take from cable providers and strengthen their streaming service. But to your point, it's a chess match to bleed to money out of you.

[@hughle9913]

Ironic how it was better when Netflix was a monopoly

[@DeadAir21]

But it doesn’t have to be more expensive because you can come and go as you please with streaming. No contracts

[@marcwelby1836]

@@DeadAir21 …for now…

[@jeretso]

@@DeadAir21 You can get a contract with D+ annual subscription and save some money but you are locked in.

[@harpergrace5846]

If you only got Netflix once every 6 months you could catch up on everything and it wouldn’t take long

[@FLAC2023]

If....

[@dominiquetheeasyminimalist]

The same goes for all services 🤷‍♀️

[@harpergrace5846]

@@dominiquetheeasyminimalist not really Netflix seems to add a lot less every month they also took off a lot of good shows

[@jeretso]

@@dominiquetheeasyminimalist You can't pause Disney+ annual subscription.

[@JJs_playground]

@@jeretso do monthly subscription.

[@kenb6418]

Disney did what Netflix should have done. People went to Netflix because they were the only game in town. In order to stay that way, they should have bought FOX, Marvel, Time/Warner, etc. Instead, the competition bought up all that content, leaving Netflix with just Netflix. That is why Disney+/HULU will surpass Netflix eventually, while Paramount and Discover and all other competitors continue to siphon off viewers as well.

[@ghost93700]

I've used Netflix, prime video as well as disney+. I still feel like Netflix still gives me the best user experience and recommendations. They always put out interesting and sometimes nice and obscure stuff. I don't watch most of the original content other than Narcos and all but I think out of everything, netflix will always be my favourite streaming service in terms of speed, quality as well as content.

[@isaacnewton3514]

Netflix essentially created this market but Disney just have too much resources for them to not win.

[@witness1013]

No one will 'win'. Disney owns ABC, they certainly still aren't 'winning' TV

[@the1stmetalhead]

@@witness1013 they don't have to win. They have to survive the market long enough, for their competitors to die first. So that they can either buy them or let them get over like Blockbuster.

[@witness1013]

@@the1stmetalhead won't happen, didn't happen to cable, won't happen in straminy

[@isaacnewton3514]

@@witness1013 Well Disney aren’t going as hard in tv because that’s a dying industry, streaming is the future so Disney know they need to win that

[@adzizi]

Disney+ has better price. Here they offer like $11 per month, compared to Netflix around $18 per month.

[@desireuys2794]

Yes, I also tend to think back on the good old days. I am sure there is a lot of people to satisfy but do research on what was really popular. Please dont stop a good show. I am so thrilled with something new and then after the first season it is gone.

[@bertoman1990]

Netflix needs a new librarian

[@gustav_jamini]

lmao yes

[@jennifertarin4707]

I now watch more Netflix than Hulu because Hulu took away the right to watch NBC programming the day after it was aired. I now will have to add yet ANOTHER streaming service just to watch the programming that I've been able to watch for years. It is to the point that streaming services cost as much as cable. Netflix has some great original content, but some of their movies are getting to be as bad as Hallmark- the same boy meets girl, boy and girl fall in love, something happens to break them up, they get back together and live happily ever after.

[@newmexicoballer3867]

Disney+ is garbage. Who wants to watch rated G shows and movies all day.😩🤦

[@NEIL-sc6wx]

Hahahah

[@nickns732]

Everyone thought Disney would put their more adult content on hulu, but thats not turning out to be totally true. Both deadpool movies are on D+ and they’re embracing more violent shows from the star wars universe.

[@dadwithnomustache]

Disney+ subsribers number may close to Netflix subscribers but i dont think Disney+ monthly watch time is nearly as much as Netflix monthly watch time FYI a lot a Disney+ subscriber doesnot even watch Disney+. for example in Indonesia there is a major cellular network provider (with more than 100 million customers) that bundled all their internet plan with Disney+ subscription (meaning more than 100 million customers is automatically becoming Disney+ subscriber even though a lot of them doesnot even watch Disney+). imagine if that cellular network provider stop bundling their internet plan with Disney+, that Disney+ subsribers report will be horrible

[@DeadAir21]

The moment in history that caused the slide for Netflix was when Disney bought Fox in 2017. I think the streaming landscape would be a lot different had Fox remained a separate company.

[@MoneyGist]

This!!! Simpsons, Family Guy, Walking Dead, 24, X-Files, and more! All available with the entire Marvel and Star Wars past, present and future franchises. Netflix really didn't stand a chance.

[@robertagren9360]

Is Fox even watchable. Everything they say I seen on youtube is propagating some cult. I could watch game of thrones if I want fantasy politics.

[@DeadAir21]

@@MoneyGist not only that. That merger gave Disney controlling stake in Hulu which in turn made comcast to create peacock. And we went from 3 major players in streaming to now 7. Netflix has to double down on original content because they lost all of their most watched content which was network sitcoms because all the networks took their content back (The Office, Friends, etc)

[@johnnyballenatl]

Disney+, Peacock, and Prime Video have been taking chunks out of Netflix’s subscriber base as they’re the new homes of Dancing With The Stars, Days Of Our Lives, and Thursday Night Football respectively. Apple TV+ has Friday Night Baseball; Netflix should strike a deal with the NBA if they want to get in on this (they could use that iconic John Tesh theme music).

[@timigs]

D+ is good but very limited to Marvel and Starwars franchises made for kids, Netflix provides more diverse content.

[@DK_Rayleigh]

Disney+ is not even available in some countries yet.

[@thebookkeeper0851]

Despite Netflix not doing well, I think that one thing that Netflix does well is offering international films, though they are offered by Amazon and other Streaming services, no one offers international films like Netflix.

[@angelmegatraveler]

So true! Especially Netflix has been in recent years investing heavily on original contents in Asia particular Korean dramas, Chinese dramas, Japanese dramas etc. I've believe if they didn't have international films/tv shows, Netflix would probably not last long enough competing against Disney and HBO. Those international offerings is what keeping Netflix alive!

[@iihithereii]

@@angelmegatraveler That's one of the big reasons why I stay devoted to Netflix, for k and c dramas..

[@justsamoo3480]

I mean they’re even making international content themselves: The Crown, La Casa De Papel, Squid Game, Young Royals etc.

[@slomuzikaofficial]

Both Netflix and Disney+ should rethink their strategy in non-English speaking countries. In Slovenia, they do not offer subtitles in Slovenian language. Disney+ had subtitles and dubbing when movies were in the cinema, but online, only English. So it is useless for families with young children.

[@TheBooban]

Your Slovenian kids should learn English.

[@slomuzikaofficial]

@@TheBooban They do. Most Slovenian kids speak at least two foreign languages. But that is not an excuse for Netflix and Disney+ to ignore languages that their users use.

[@slomuzikaofficial]

@@P.90.603 I am talking about the language of the service (website) and subtitles. Apple TV has Slovenian subtitles. BTW, this week they are filming Our man from Jersey in Slovenia (with Mark Wahlberg and Halle Berry in main roles).

[@roudyman777]

I think the best way for Netflix to go about this would be to tell the original account holder (the one paying the monthly bill) "hey, we know you are sharing this account with 4 other people and that's fine, you will still have uninterrupted access to Netflix, but those you are sharing the password with will get ads during their viewing". That way, those getting the free password will have to deal with ads, but at least they are still getting Netflix for free while the one paying the bill still gets to enjoy Netflix without any ads.

[@manimnaHusna]

Good idea

[@robertagren9360]

The one who share is the one who pay so if they share they all get ads, If you don't punish the lawbreaker they will continue.

[@sillerbarly4927]

@@robertagren9360 you are away they supported password sharing early on. How can someone be a lawbreaker if they did what the company said they can do

[@robertagren9360]

@@sillerbarly4927 Out of context with the topic.

[@denverlambino6738]

Some people share their password but not for free so they're also paying the account holder.

[@jensenraylight8011]

What people forgot is that Netflix is a native Tech companies, unlike a traditional media company like Disney. meaning that Netflix could utilize the Network effect, they could create a new Tech product like game, ebook. and change the landscape of the competition real fast. they could solve any major Tech problem like signal processing, video encoding, AI, etc and make the product out of it. that's the thing that Disney didn't have advantage of. Disney could only Copy the Tech, but they aren't gonna make anything new from scratch.

[@theparamountparamount913]

I have tried HBO Max, Apple TV and another streaming platform, I stil went back to Netflix because it has more shows and contents to watch. Apple TV for example, has great shows but it's under develop. Most of my favorite films/movies were Netflix Originals, that's why there's always this feeling of attachment and nostalgia every time. They should stop their idiotic idea of sharing crackdown because it will be the final nail to the coffin.

[@brianvieira157]

Are we just gonna pretend the pandemic isn't the reason they did so well the past 2 years? No one okay

[@robertagren9360]

No it wasn't because if we look at chart on the market there's lots of companies who have a similar story. Netflix isn't making computers but they still have a similar history. We could say that computer chips are used for television but we're not throwing out the tv every year. amazon, apple, microsoft. They all share telecom costs. The stream service is internet and the internet costs spiked. Even Google who own KZbin is losing money every month.

[@grittymadethebeat]

I was one of the 1million people who unsubscribed when they started talking about cracking down on sharing passwords.

[@ipredictariot6371]

But how are you going to get Netflix now? I mean it’s still quite cheap.

[@richardm7713]

@@ipredictariot6371 the amount of good new shows is so limited you can download them all.

[@ipredictariot6371]

@@richardm7713 I guess some more hyperactive tv viewers might prefer downloading

[@grittymadethebeat]

I get hbo max & paramount plus free. And then theres free sites to watch everything else

[@shubhangbahadur7112]

MCU and Star Wars powering up Disney+ to become world’s biggest streaming platform. Speaks volumes of the success of these 2 gigantic franchises!

[@kielvostro]

Tbh if all media company put their content on their own streaming platform, I would just rather pirate than subscribe to all of them.

[@skycloud4802]

Ultimately that's what will happen with a lot of people. Piracy will increase because it costs too much to subscribe to everything.

[@MessJB]

Sta. Clarita's Diet was one of their best shows. Unfortunately it was so underrated that they cancelled it. Too bad. Now I can't even decide what to watch on Netflix because there's just too many but lacks quality.

[@evan448]

92 percent of their content was licenced and investors didn't see the problem. They were selling something they fundamentally didn't own

[@ImYourHucklebery117]

Same day i got the notification about the price increase, same day i cancelled

[@aquapyro1]

All Disney needs to do is to merge Hulu and they’re instantly top 3. Disney+ is top 5 right now. Just look at the service in UK. They have Star on the service and it works

[@jumbomuffin1316]

Monopoly. I decided to go back on a show on Hotstar and found that my subscription was gone and I had to subscribe to another subscription which would include Hulu, Disney and Hotstar 🙄

[@tammypopova5804]

Disney needs to buy Netflix so I can pay only to one company 😅

[@martinphillips4607]

Disney can’t manage Hulu, there fox films, there movies division , why would we Americans want more woke at Netflix. This is the main reason people have drop Netflix. Go woke go broke.

[@silviadiaz1248]

This!!! 😂

[@robertagren9360]

Amazon then buys disney since Disney bought netflix.

[@martinphillips4607]

@@robertagren9360 Amazon bought mgm entertainment. So they enough issues to worry about.

[@robertagren9360]

@@martinphillips4607 Netflix buying a software company is going to be interesting but we know that Tencent will buy them all. Amazon already tried and they didn't knew how to run the business because Amazon throw in money and rapidly shut the door. Industries are predictable, Organic things are messy for amazon. They don't know how to produce tv shows that they take licenses and grind them like meat in a butchery.

[@revomariopaulus9748]

Changed to Disney+ some three months ago, as it's cheaper than Netflix.

[@sbradshaw1886]

lol you'll regret saying that soon

[@lubaniskie]

Netflix needs to invest in quality writing and bold story telling, thats the niche no other studio/streaming service is willing to bet on overall. Having a handful of fantastic shows and movies across multiple streamers tells us that each streamer simply wants to have one or two golden children that bolsters the streamer's image with award badges, but still would rather fill their library will names and legacy titles over quality of storytelling. Disney has way more legacy titles and on-the-table money to play with, they are hard to compete with when it comes to producing blockbuster standard movies or cinematic series, but it bloats its own library by abusing the legacy titles, creating an oversaturation of one-note formulaic content that needs to fit into an assigned pre-destined universe which in addition to the eventual fatigue fans and casual viewers will get from such content, the programs are bound to collapse in on themselves through varying quality and nonsensical and unnecessarily plot models that are inherently borne from the limitations of necessary cohesion and progression through the universe (not to mention the family friendly boundaries most of their shows have to dance within). Netflix has been wasting money as of late with unnecessary blockbuster movies such as Rednotice and Grey, which are made for the summer cinema going experience you just don't get with the stay at home TV watching model that streaming produces, no matter how big your TV. They should take a note from A24 and focus on diverse, creative, risk-taking content that offers the writers and directors a sandbox for filmmaking creativity, that's what's missing; quality and that sense of uniqueness you leave the movie or show with where the viewer instantly knows they wouldn't have gotten that experience anywhere else, and they'll keep coming back for it.

[@aiwash2766]

Say what we you want about Netflix but they have produced the best show to come out all year this year and last year, them being Cyberpunk Edgeruners and Arcane

[@MrSiraque]

Netflix won’t die, it just won’t grow, And that’s okay. It’s already huge.

[@MrSiraque]

Let another competitor enter the space and bring down prices.

[@cu7695]

Netflix should NOT go with ad tier. That's a bad idea. When your platform grew on having easy accessibility to content and distinguishing itself from traditional media, going to ad tier is bonkers. If I'm paying for Netflix and I start getting ads even after paying more money than just cable, I'll not be happy.

[@theofficialbabatrolling]

It is a good idea to have ads

[@elvism684]

Having a Ad tier below below Basic tier would be a good idea. Possibly being priced between $5-7$ with 480p resolution and upgrading Basic tier to 720p resolution if possible and keeping the same price.

[@cu7695]

@@theofficialbabatrolling Netflix was created to replace cable and have better viewing experience than cable TV. Having a new Ad tier is just losing it's X factor compared to Disney bundle.

[@cu7695]

@@elvism684 actually I agree with the ad tier at/below price point of 5-7 dollars. Seems fair. 480 P is too low resolution. Have single screen 1080 P but with ad.

[@justalostcause4425]

If i start seeing ads then ill get just cancel my Netflix subscription and go back to piracy. 🤷‍♂️

[@madebyirly1812]

I initially closed my account because of price hike and had it closed for over 5 years and just started my first couple months... seeing if it's worth it or if I close it again

[@jasonmotley]

Password sharing crackdown will not work... Netflix started out successfully because it was easy. The latest changes makes it difficult.

[@ApoorvaRajBhadani]

In India Netflix rarely has any regional content, very expensive compared to Disney or prime, no easy UPI payments options.

[@huntno]

NO WAYYY my mom is always watching Indian produced and casted shows in the US

[@JoelsterG4k]

Netflix should buy their own movie theaters now that some are going thru bankruptcy and start releasing their big movies and series in thetaers, imagine watching stranger things on a big screen with dolby atmos sound and their movies are awesome too.

[@QuantumNoir]

👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼👏🏼

[@txquartz]

That will invite a lot of litigation and basically restart the Paramount Decree debate

[@peathgang]

or you can wait until they go broke. have another stable platform buy the content that still has them in business "stranger things " who obviously the reason for its success is the lack of them volturing its content with lgbt propaganda, would you look at that?lmao.

[@Anonymous_Lee19]

With a content budget of $17 billion per year, Netflix is really doing a bad job with their original content... Assuming 70% of the budget is spent on buying content from third-parties, Netflix still has over $5 billion to spend on its original content. That's equivalent to 25 to 50 big-budget movies or tv series (if each is given $100 to $200 million budget).

[@randomxxjojo]

I don't feel like this is a fair comparison. Disney+ is different in overseas markets. Disney+ in overseas markets is essentially Hulu and Disney+ combined (because Disney owns Hulu among other properties).

[@riyainteriordesigners7]

Answer is simple, cost of subscription is 4 times of Amazon and Disney. To watch 4k content i need to pay 6000 Rs to 7000 Rs a year. But for the same money(7k) I can subscribe Amazon, Disney, Zee 5 , Sonyliv, Aha, Sunxt. So it's waste even though content is way ahead of other OTT's...

[@hometechUK]

Netflix is still my favourite but it should have bought a film studio or production companies, that's how Disney has gotten big, owning its own studio but the biggest thing is purchasing marvel & starwars.

[@michaelmartinez280]

Netflix is more than juts a content streaming service, it's a tech company, they innovate and create better technology, that's why when you watch a show on Netflix it streams smoothly while in other services it's a lot slow in their interface, with bad looking quality compression, etc, they even has a lot of projects and information one can use in your own programming stuff

[@ImaniNile]

Netflix's recent 2022 Tudum Global Fan event (available on KZbin) reflects where they should focus - international movies. Be the platform that allows the world to explore movies (et al) from other countries.

[@kimberlycrichton2932]

I am grateful to Netflix for showing TV series & movies beyond those made in America & England. I discovered Danish, Korean, French, Chinese, Mexican, Taiwanese, and Spanish series & movies. HBO and Disney don't show anything I want to watch.

[@tacoquinta5294]

Yeah I left Netflix a long time ago for peacock and Hulu with Disney+

[@souvikmondal3591]

I still haven't forgiven Netflix for cancelling Mindhunter

[@nicksmith9]

^^^ technically it's not cancelled but on "indefinitely hold" but we all know what that means.

[@jonathanlanglois2742]

The thing that was great about Netflix was the fact that it was a one stop shop. I'm sorry to say so, but the multiplication of streaming providers has really diminished the value of what is being offered. Theses new services are coming into the market with a much smaller offering and seem to think that they can command the same price that Netflix has for years.

[@melissawickersham9912]

That’s true. Netflix was once the only game in town and the biggest name in Streaming....now it’s not. That’s the problem.

[@Erik-qy4cn]

Maybe if they stop canceling good shows. Never gonna forgive them for canceling Mindhunter

[@signupstuff]

Netflix needs to up their marketing. Whenever something new comes out on Disney+ or Amazon or HBO Max, I swear I see promotions on every platform. The first time I usually hear anything about a Netflix show is on Netflix.

[@waltuh2.3bviews3secondsago3]

I'm british (saying in case it's different elsewhere) and seeing big titles disappear like schindler's list, saving private ryan, fight club and forrest gump is just depressing

[@melissawickersham9912]

Well, who do you think owns those titles? Netflix doesn’t own those titles....but the studios that made them do.

[@dirtbikegarage4219]

Most people didn't want to pay 19.99 for Netflix. Disney + is 9.99. Lower it back to 9.99 and I bet half those customers come back.

[@ianfromthephilippines]

Remember the streaming wars are not yet done. hbo/discovery, paramount and peacock are not getting the growth and subscribers from their streaming platform. I could see them returning to Netflix

[@gushernandez25]

Netflix could benefit from peacock and HBO!

[@shaunharn1998]

Disney have all the popular superhero/animation/cartoon/documentary & movies & shows, it’s hard to compete with them when they own all those IP and have full seasons of all their shows/movies unlike Netflix which usually has 1-2 seasons at most

[@Nonamepunjab]

If Netflix cracks down on Password sharers. People will go back to piracy. I live in India I do have Netflix. But I pirate rest of the streaming services. Then Netflix will also go into that list. 🤣

[@guru6831]

Stop stealing! People toil to educate/entertain you, and you do this?!

[@justalostcause4425]

💯

[@blacklyfe5543]

I don't even watch Netflix no more it's a waste of time!

[@tbone5654]

Yes, snowboarding, surfing, play/writing music and hunting tail is a much better use of time.

[@ChillCocoo]

Here in the Philippines, Disney+ just launched a couple of months ago and the content is ginormous compared to the US. We have the Star tile which has shows such as Grey's, Criminal Minds and even K-dramas. Netflix here is still very popular though, especially with younger ppl, so I don't expect Netflix to fall here, for now. (side note: at least we still have Friends and TBBT here)

[@kevinparker2314]

Netflix is still the best. All companies have there ups and downs. Overall its still has more and better content than its competitors.

[@stijill]

Again, Wall Street is failing to see what the consumers are doing. Disney may be catching up, but the amount of new and original content on Netflix is massive. I’m able to finish binging on Disney, HBO, Prime and Paramount combined in less then a month. Disney and others may be on top of the so-called food chain, Netflix is like swarm…

[@zlpatriot11]

Streaming has become the new cable tv.

[@w2385-i2s]

Because Disney+ have it's own content (Marvel, Star Wars, Disney).

[@ojirmr]

Two thing that makes me keep coming back to disney+, Marvel and lower monthly fee

[@good-tn9sr]

i left Disney cause of the poor quality they have with Marvel content now. HBO Max and some Netflix originals are the way to go.

[@timigs]

Then you must be a kid.

[@MoneyGist]

@@timigs Such a weird conclusion. Lol

[@MrBazukaz]

It's the competition that's drove Netflix away from their honeymoon phase,they thought it will last forever and made plenty of mistake by continuing their premium prices even when their competitors were offering better choices,that being said you can bet anything on technology these days it's fast phased and can turn you into a Hero to zero in a matter of few months to years

[@elmegav0782]

I like Netflix FAR more than D+

[@MiniatureMasterClass]

How about NETFLIX STOPS CANCELING SHOWS AFTER ONE SEASON AND THEN RAISE PRICES EVERY YEAR?????

[@dvader3000]

At the end of the day Netflix is where I watch most of my shows