Economy's soft landing isn't looking as soft anymore, says SoFi's Liz Young

SoFi’s Liz Young and JPMorgans’ AJ Oden, join 'Closing Bell' to discuss the markets, today's PPI report and the Fed's reaction to the data and what it all means for the Fed's next moves.

[@RichardMoore-jg5tl]

is it really worth investing in stocks in 2024, I’ve been on the sidelines watching the market for awhile and it seems to be pretty stagnant to me not that it matters because I’m in it for the long run, but how can one generate actual profit in this current market?

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[@roddywoods8130]

The dilemma of "higher interest rate leads to expensive borrowing leads to slow economic growth" and vice versa makes it difficult to manoeuvre economic parameters. Yet the stock market isn't showing any sign of slowdown caused by a recession outlook. Investing now instead of saving would make thousands of dollars in ROI if done right.

[@selenajack2036]

I don't agree it is a real dilemma. These parameters are tweakable can be effectively done to preserve economy while growing the economy. I do agree, though, that the market is rising hell. Heck, I've grown more than 70k this earnings call season.

[@hushbash2989]

That's an impressive growth there. I put all my eggs in one basket-- META-- and I really benefitted. My FA has advised we diversify going forward. Talking about tweaking the parameters, some countries have low inflation but are still economically prosperous.

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In recent times it's mainly Asian countries maintaining that dual prosperity. Anyway, any chance you could recommend who you financial advisor is? I need some help investing this year.

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[@willberry6434]

Liz has been bearish for so long

[@CharlotteDubois-o8g]

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[@RebeccaBalint-g2z]

Wow. I'm a bit perplexed seeing her been mentioned here also Didn’t know she has been good to so many people too this is wonderful, I'm in my fifth trade with her and it has been super.

[@FrederickCarlton]

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[@RobertAderholt3]

You trade with Victoria Wiezorek too? Wow that woman has been a blessing to me and my family.

[@MorganGriffith1]

I'm new at this, please how can I reach her?

[@MikeThompson-q7k]

I was skeptical at first till I decided to try. Its huge returns is awesome. I can't say much

[@nathanpruitt572]

This whole rally started with talk of cutting rates. 6, then 3 and now 1. So expain the bull market.

[@optimumgaming7404]

It's not news which drives the market, the news is created to fit whichever direction the market manipulators want it to go. The entire thing is a massive scam to control universal wealth.

[@niklas4031]

Exuberance

[@keto6789]

She's been wrong for 10 years .....

[@amdave76]

the market climbs a wall worry.... just stay invested.

[@c.m.c2024]

I’m in all bonds. There’s way too many people acting greedy with this market. Prices are out of control; especially housing. I’m just out. Right now you get 5% APY on cash… it’s free money for no risk. Lookup the buffet indicator, it estimates stocks are way over valued right now, also why he’s keeping 200 B in cash and he sounded nervous about the market very recently. Too many bought stuff they couldn’t afford with low interest rate debt; they’re about to feel the pain unless they’re very good planners.

[@SmartestDumbGuy]

​@chrischapman3722 could also be late stage capitalism... when the rich have most the money, guess where it goes? Into assets. That increases PE ratios on stocks because more dollars are chasing investments.

[@SmartestDumbGuy]

​​@@c.m.c2024 because of increase in easy education... kids in hi school can easily invest from a phone in their pocket for free with fractured shares. Increasing the amount of people investing by a ton. That has never been possible. The last decade really did change everything with technology. More dollars chasing investments.

[@c.m.c2024]

@@SmartestDumbGuy yeah, and the overvaluation of stocks is almost at the same point it was in 1929, the yield curve in a month or so will have been inverted for so long that the only time that was inverted for longer was also the period preceding 1929. And they have no plans of cutting rates this year. Not saying anything like it’s going to crash tomorrow but I will say that everyone should be far more defensive right now until things are balanced out. The 1929 stock crash was no joke, puts everything else to shame, 90% of valuation just gone. Millionaires lept from buildings and just ended their lived because one day they were rich and the next they were broke. I know if that happened today the suicide rate would skyrocket because everyone’s retirement plans are based on stocks.

[@davidlowe8597]

The Starbucks coffee index is pointing to a hard landing.

[@gregorymilla9213]

Something about Starbucks having 4 shops within sight of each other

[@dangood2287]

How are prices not adjusting downwards to compensat from 7 rate cuts expected to 1 rate cut expected?

[@huunguyen5280]

All manipulation treasury pricing money rate does not matter much

[@mikev4373]

The next time Liz is right about anything will be the first time.

[@xxxxl2333]

Powel and FED need to keep market up till elections , this is the only way for Biden to win

[@lnbt1]

With so many problems around the world and Ukraine war and middle east war, the gas / energy price are going to raise this summer and the inflation will be high again. Let's see how Fed is going to keep taming the lower interest rate.

[@gregorymilla9213]

@@lnbt1 just lie every other fed chairman in history . Trump juiced the economy even when it was booming 2017-2019 .

[@JimMcNutty]

Liz can be wrong. She is still fine.

[@mariocabella5476]

Today’s PPI was bad and markets rallied specially R2k and bonds rates went down. What else can you ask for? Tomorrow’s CPI will be better than the last one. Risk on. Do not look what people say, look what market does. And liquidity/refi is pretty good. Tomorrow could be a nice surprise and later may 22th Nvda’s earnings will bring market higher.

[@JMEUTEUW]

All these so called experts all contradict each other, they don't have a clue

[@Willfully_Ignorant]

How does 1 CPI reading being cool tell you that the last 3 being hot were just a blip? Shouldn’t that be the other way around?

[@peterdangelo5882]

Correct, its a joke

[@RaniVeluNachar-kx4lu]

SOFT is a relative term. When you are homeless and use to sleeping rough on the street, sleeping in a house on a carpeted floor next to somebody's snoring dog is heaven. We are at 3.6% core CPI and we will, like the "biggest looser" competition, have to fight LONG and HARD for that last 1.6% reduction of CPI to get to 2.0% and I doubt that we will get there in this cycle at all. The Economic World will be just very happy with 2.5% core CPI and unemployment no worse than 4.3 or 4.5%, and a Dollar still in that 1.0875-1.0900 to the Euro range once the Fed puts in a 25 basis points cut or two down the road. I still think the first Fed Funds rate cut is December of 2024, not September.

[@uehara7973]

LOL, they are expecting a CUT already????? LOOOOOL, your expectations will be broken

[@nickvin7447]

No Shlt.

[@timpxcs]

AJ Oden needs to listen to his own dialogue… He should ask himself- does my dialogue make sense? Do I sound like a confused millennial? Maybe my Nike sneakers shouldn’t be paired with a suit? maybe televised reporting isn’t my calling?

[@haze_the_alchemist1123]

VOTE TRUMP

[@theunbearablebull]

damn she's been bearish for so long lol

[@juansay8257]

Perhaps she's the reason why the company's stock price faced hard landing 😂😂

[@willbergjames]

why your comapany stock never go up?

[@lighter86AJH]

Here is what will happen. Cpi will come in hot and market will still go up

[@jhull5870]

The markets have moved as if the FED cut rates 6 months ago. Mania of the zero interest rates is back.

[@georgeboutwell6069]

No cuts….

[@jimmyz5831]

One day we will stop discussing this very average prime rate. The world is in a growth spurt right now.

[@themusic6808]

Amen

[@roosterr201]

since we already are in the great depression, there is no such thing as a soft or hard landing! we already crashed :(

[@ScottFranklin-of3nz]

Are those apple nbc cnbc laptops

[@YesCivic-R]

For moderat-earner, it's hard landing. Even EU ids dropping rate. costing $b forgone business opportunities in production and comsumption.

[@AnthonyLoflin-nq8wo]

Don't you mean CRASH landing?

[@peterdangelo5882]

FED just halved QT because it was all falling apart. This is a mess.

[@imrandhalla8336]

Liz Dan Guy 😢

[@ronfinkbonner14]

A correction, then panhandle 🤔🤐

[@leeinthesprings]

The market has made it clear they really don't care what the fed is doing anymore and fundamentals are not given the same weight as they did in the past... If anything made sense, Liz would be spot on. That being said, as a trader, I just go with the flow...

[@MPDLR]

Luscious Liz in white. I love being a guy.

[@Anthony-dj4nd]

Looks like it's going to be a bad week😅

[@davidtunstall6454]

Yet another report indicating to stagflation today

[@liudizzle]

Liz, it’s ok to admit you’re wrong and turn bullish

[@MohHus-r7o]

This anchor always bullish he doesn't want to see market correction which is fundamental

[@louistan7560]

Remember 2008. This time, it will be a lot worse.

[@AH-fm7rj]

Those who are arguing there is no need for rate cuts, are shorting tons of companies that are going to hit their bond maturity wall by the end of this year. There is going to be blood bath if rates don’t go back to 0 soon.

[@Snapcracklepop541]

Seems a flaccid playdough landing is less likely than a half chub landing. -cnbc

[@luislu8615]

How can someone be so wrong for so long, yet always be so confident? That’s Liz Young’s strength I guess, very thick skinned indeed.

[@themusic6808]

Bears would rather stay bearish because they know they get a few pull backs or a correction a year to have their ah hah moment and a few times a decade they get a recession to really relish over the I knew it all along, but they don’t make any money lol

[@Chad_Max]

DEI hire…

[@headspaceandtiming2114]

We aren’t heading in the right direction. Better get your self ready for a hike.

[@AR-rn8ok]

Well if they let off a little bit of steam, real estate won’t collapse, if they don’t take a little pressure off the economy by giving a little rate drop, things are going to be really bad. It’s not so much the level of rates alone but the combination of speed with which they increased them, that snowballs into a really bad collapse.

[@lukejohnrussell1026]

We're at 3% inflation lol

[@dons3073]

Because they know inflations going higher sell your house now yes

[@ScottFranklin-of3nz]

Need your 3d glasses in that room of a type of a room

[@suleimanpeshawari1032]

She was bearish last year

[@mikev4373]

Liz will eventually be right…in the meantime she’s been left in the dust for years. It is comical at this point.

[@thisguy73]

every year

[@AnkitSingh-gb7ku]

This aged like milk

[@gregorymilla9213]

This is the same recession the same people have been predicting everyday for the last three years .

[@themusic6808]

If you take tech out of the major indices you’d see the market has pretty well traded flat since its bottom in late 2022 until late last year, and there likely has been a recession since then. This is an odd scenario where AI, large cap tech and huge earnings growth has masked that and where the market should be in its recovery it’s trading at an all time high. Which has got bears frustrated and bulls who don’t realize this listening to the bears and feeling nervous that things are too good lol and people who have been sitting in cash or treasuries not being able to get a signal on when to get back in because they think interest rates matter and they can time the market.

[@gregorymilla9213]

@@themusic6808 if what you are proclaiming was true the job market would have collapsed and unemployment would be sky high . Ford Motor gross profit for the twelve months ending December 31, 2023 was $25.641B, a 8.37% increase year-over-year. These numbers don’t happen just because only tech is doing well .

[@mfinite689]

@@themusic6808 From Forbes this morning: "With 92% of firms reporting, 78% have surpassed earnings-per-share expectations and 59% have exceeded revenue forecasts. An above-average number of S&P 500 companies reported positive earnings surprises, quelling fears that the profit cycle had peaked. Profit margins for the S&P 500 for Q1 in 2024 were 11.7%, which is above the previous quarter’s net profit margin of 11.2%, and above the 5-year average of 11.5%. Seven sectors saw margin expansion while three sectors experienced margin contraction." That's more than just tech propping up the market. A broad variety of companies are beating expectations and the majority of sectors are showing increased profit margins. No recession this week but that won't stop someone from saying next week the recession is here.

[@Agent77X]

Liz Young the stock market Bear!😮

[@eco-enjoyer]

In heaven, I will be married to Liz Young.

[@vaybor]

why

[@weho_brian]

go outside your house

[@benjaming.2218]

You poor simp. Marriage only exists in hell.

[@eco-enjoyer]

@@weho_brian Says the person responding, lol.

[@joeybob4112]

Nice try. Never been a soft landing ever

[@yenafar]

What does she get talking always negative, I mean seeing half full glass half empty, She’s been calling for market drop since the beginning of the year

[@bradelliot1027]

wait how long can Liz be wrong...two years and counting...seriously?

[@supadave422]

Liz likes a hard landing 🤣

[@keto6789]

aaaw yeeeah

[@bradtaylor8624]

Been bearish and wrong.

[@daveybro]

Forget about these media noise, trend is your friend until it isn’t - only fundstrat Tom Lee, got the prediction right - but he was sweating bullets while he was wrong- this tells me nobody can predict- what they say will eventually be right -

[@vaneh6982]

E Y from SOFI is my fave on cnbc

[@saininj]

Oh, ya think!?

[@josefperry3836]

Tomorrow's going to give us a clear inflation picture. Two reports -- retail sales and the consumer price index -- are like boyfriend and girlfriend. Where the one is there also is the other.

[@ronsunshine3469]

Does she have expertise? Is that expertise validated by the performance of the company that employs her? Have her prior speculations and prognostications proven accurate? Well, she has a dynamite smile, nice body, and professional-sounding cadence, so she must be right. #Substance

[@SmilingInstantCamera-ix9bx]

Liz pushing back against mr. tow the line perpetual bull judge. good for her. things look great...until they don't! house of cards in here...look out for the slightest breeze. good job Liz!

[@johnschwartz7231]

She's been a downer, even as the market goes to all time highs.What a joke and by the way, her bank's not doing very well either.Stay away

[@shuikai272]

rates +5% for 1 year = stock go down

[@weho_brian]

rates have been +5% for the past 10 months. Stocks have gone straight up

[@shuikai272]

@@weho_brian give it a year or two

[@lulubelle551]

Don’t worry you’ll get your QE and zero bound back soon enough…

[@markl1473]

They pay Liz to be wrong.

[@kenthoover3573]

No wonder Sofi stock is in the crapper

[@wadej769]

😂

[@ibrahimseth8646]

Total Capital=300B=A1 Share Price=100 USD Portfolio=6(More or less) Capital Buy=USD Sell=USD Gross 30B 100 150 45B 30B 75 150 60B 30B 60 150 75B 30B 50 150 90B 30B 30 150 150B 30B 25 150 180B 30B 15 150 300B 30B 10 150 450B 30B 6 150 750B 30B 3 150 1500B Buy Share: 30 Year=300B=A2 1 Year=300B/30 Year 1 Year=10B 1 Month=10B/12 Month 1 Month=0.83B++ Yield(Average)=12% Yield(30 Year)=300B*1.12^30 Yield(30 Year)=8,980B++ If Dividen=4%=8,980B*4% Dividen=4%=359.2B If 5%=10B(Dividen) 100%=10B/5% 100%=200B(Invest) Loan=1,200B Yield=5% Year=30 Loan(30 Year)=1,200B*1.05^30 Loan(30 Year)=5,200B Loan=1,200B { A1=300B A2=300B Balance=B1=600B } If B1=600B Payout(30 Year)=9,000B { Loan(30 Year)=5,200B Balance(30 Year)=3,800B } Premium=? Yield=8% Year=30 Premium=9,000B/1.08^30 Premium=900B(30 Year) Premium(1 Year)=900B/30 Year Premium(1 Year)=30B 5%=30B(Dividen) 100%=30B/5% 100%=600B(Invest) Thank you.

[@williambudd2850]

Its time for the fed to stop their wishful thinking, get off their ass and raise rates again or go home and bake cookies.

[@jimmeh1990]

At my opinion woman are better in trading.

[@Toby-oq8cg]

Wrong again and again and again …

[@ecigglobal1116]

Everything is going to collapse Credit card debt is on all time high Stocks and real estate are due for 25%-30% Correction !

[@weho_brian]

we just had two major corrections (33% and 27%) in 2 out of the last 4 years

[@ecigglobal1116]

@@weho_brian corrections up ?

[@sokatbeszel7312]

😂

[@duramajin3118]

Lol liz the bear bozo

[@paulrobbo321]

She only gets a by but let’s be honest she’s actually worse than Guy and Dan because those two have stuck to their incorrect calls but she’s now just making noise

[@waldondarin8323]

All three are equally terrible.

[@jimmyguni]

In one breath, Liz says gdp growth will climb, and in next breath, consumer confidence is changing and down. CMI is already down. What do these people actually do all day to be “finance experts”?!

[@brycesattler2301]

☯️

[@andypicken7848]

What a load of fluff