CNC Machining Technology That Allows You To Compete | HAIMER Shrink Fit, Presetting & Balancing

[@craiger8484]

I worked at a shop where we would replace spindles every 3-4 years. We implemented a similar system and it increased spindle life and paid for itself in the first few years. I would recommend this if you are holding tight tolerances.

[@christianheidt5733]

What did you guys do that you have to change the spindle every 3 to 4 yrs?

[@valuedhumanoid6574]

This is amazing. Here’s my process at work: I take the holder out of spindle and drop it into a vise. Loosen the set screws, remove old tool, open drawer and hope I have another, drop it in, make sure it’s seated, tighten set screws with worn out Allen key and pipe, slap back in spindle and hit the cycle start button. My how technologically advanced we have become...

[@thomashenderson3901]

I know what you mean! Hydraulic tool holders have been a huge step up for me from some terrible ER collets but to jump up to this set up for most small machine shops is inconceivable. I did wonder though, why not just get an induction nut buster and a vernier height gauge?

[@TheTraktor01]

If your not short on time, you could also do it with a torch

[@alexkern9134]

Titan is taking IMTS 2020 into his own hands!

[@dessiediamond7414]

We use Haimer tooling and balance machines. Definitely makes a massive difference to surface finish and tool life

[@ChrisSmithCenterline]

Im very new at the whole CNC Mill game but I actually just ran into a situation where I was getting a really crummy contour finish. After a couple of hours of changing tools, s/f rates etc. I finally call a buddy who is a pro. His advice, change the holder. I did and it fixed the issue. He uses a bunch of the Haimer gear in the video (makes medical parts) and said if nothing else invest in the shrink fit stuff.

[@artmckay6704]

Balancing each tool just makes so much sense! Obviously, this will make for a better surface finish and longer tool life. Thanks for sharing this! :)

[@Wikato]

What’s normal to us in Germany since 20 years is getting normal in the US. Fantastisch News!

[@johnlocke9609]

I was thinking that, not only that, making a balancer, flute analyzer, etc, is not really a big deal, it could even been an opensource project out there for all this.

[@jamessmith1190]

seems like that setup is more expensive than spindle bearings but for the right shop it would work...

[@Vincemaan]

The heat shrink is awesome. The preset tool makes sense for shops that have many machines. but the balancer seems over the top and the system is dumb. why do i have to look on a silly chart in the box wich screw to pick? The machine could just tell wich screw to put where. and think about sorting them back after the tool is worn out...

[@jamessmith1190]

Hardcor3crash if you watch maritool shop tour on nyc cnc they have a balancer that you actually drill a certain depth on the side of the tool in between keyway flats pretty cool video love the mill turn machine they have its awesome

[@haimerusallc]

@@Vincemaan Balancing is an investment, but the increase in spindle and tool life pay for it quicker than you would think! Fixing imbalance with screws is an inexpensive correction method without permanently removing material from the holder every time you need to change a tool. The chart makes it easier for the user to correct balance issues without needs 100+ different screws for individual weights; imagine trying to put that many screws back in the right place!

[@Vincemaan]

@@haimerusallc I understand that. But the machine can know that this is a balance error that cant be corrected with one screw and could tell just tell like put a Nr 4 screw in the hole 3 and a Nr 1 Screw in hole 5 instead of doing that thing with the chart. That would remove the operator error if someone does not understand the chart. I mean even "boom Bob" had to look twice on the chart...

[@haimerusallc]

@@Vincemaan We see what you mean! The reason the balancer doesn't tell you specifically what number screw to use is universality, so customers can use other manufacturer's weighted screws. Some have even made their own!

[@bethanypilant5732]

Hahahaa. Id love to put one of our decades old collet holders in that balancer just to see how off it is. 😅

[@raivis2973]

I almost can afford a new hammer.

[@gregjenkins5258]

Have you tried layaway.

[@gregjenkins5258]

Have you tired layaway, that's how my mom gets her gum.

[@5hredder]

any tool is a hammer though... i mean if you cant get the tool you want, make it.

[@Duceytwoducey]

Shrink fits are waaaaaaayyy better at using for coolant through milling, and drilling. Excellent technology!

[@jackflash6377]

That would be a dream set up.

[@jonahwebb4352]

This is cool but you don't need any of this to compete, the shop that i work for does aerospace parts all the time and we havent bought a single shrink fit holder or a touch off machine, we have looked at them but the cost of them is way to high when all the machines have touch off setters in them, and you dont really need to balance your tools and tool holders until you get up to 20,000 rpms or more. Hes showing you what you COULD have if money wasnt a object like it is for him, where you could drop $200,000 on a room like this. Def NOT needed to compete

[@steinarne79]

This is the next level Titan!! Good solid info!

[@Thepriest39]

If I had millions to spend on cool stuff I would get a setup like this.

[@jules02638]

I've used a haimer shrink fit m/c for over 20 years. Never had the chiller part, just use the big water tank on the waterjet cutter. Tool length setting has been using a 1" slip gauge on the m/c has worked fine for 35+ years, if m/c doesn't with a tool pre setter company isn't going to fork out for one.

[@gregdennis3523]

Three rules: That which does not kill you makes you stronger. From Friedrich Nietzsche Learn something every day! You only stop learning when you are dead.

[@NeoQJ]

Another new tech learned today. Thank you Titan

[@MattBike]

My company just got heimer equipment to measuring tools. Quite fun to use.

[@johnanderson3475]

This is dope! I've known about shrink fitting aluminium but no so much steels and heavier/stronger alloys than that. Cool food for the brain.

[@396chevelless]

Awesome! What a time saver.

[@geminisduerme5266]

Crazy impressive technology

[@MrTony3696]

That tool room looks like you're on a space station; nice work!

[@SchmegmaMonster]

Getting fired taking 2 hours to set up all my tools thanks

[@ClockwerkIndustries]

Dang I didn't know haimer made all that stuff. I love my haimer indicator

[@snakedike]

I just bought my first one. Going to set it up tomorrow.

[@christophergrim9925]

Haimer 3d taster is really nice. Last week we bought a haff & schneider 3d taster and we like it better than the haimer

[@billpiehler9010]

Using the optical tool measurement is a pain if there's a speck of dust on the flute.

[@RajvirSingh-ew8bd]

What would be the benefits of such a setup over the conventional tooling?

[@zebraallday8332]

We have all this in a special room its set in . And no one really uses it . Yeah we use the shrink fit heater and cooler . But no one knows how to use the balancer or the touch off machine. We just use our machines setter and or laser setters . Sometimes even just a height gage with 1,2 3, blocks for our capto C8 holders if we don't want to go the machine route even . Never any problems . Okuma B750

[@Nismospec52]

I run shrink fits on doosan and makino

[@yianni3251]

BOOOOOM BABY!

[@jonivanart]

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[@TrPrecisionMachining]

very very good

[@jetxpro0602]

how about run out??checking on shrinkfit

[@seffie4872]

I use a zoller at work to measure all our cutters, shrink fits mostly come in within .001 as long as your pre setter is calibrated should be all good man!

[@tayfurrahman491]

Hi, its been a month I've been watching your videoes... they are fun and informative watching.. please, would you inform me how I can start learning the programming.. here in our country 3 axis is available.. is it oky to learn it first and then gradually learn higher axis, when they get available...

[@markcross5572]

How do you get the cutter out when it is worn

[@benjaminkessler8169]

A-a-ron yes it’s the same with automotive parts. There’s no way to remove the two without impacting the integrity of one of them.

[@haimerusallc]

@A-a-ron Exactly right! As long as you stick to shrinking HSS and solid carbide, you should have no problem running a heat cycle to remove a dull cutter.

[@haimerusallc]

@@soundspark The difference is in the metallurgic properties of the holder/cutter, and the amount of heat being used. If holders are overheated, you will notice a difficulty in removing the cutting tool.

[@johnbrady7302]

Shrink fit is awesome but it really is older tech. Was using shrink fit 25 years ago. Can also set tool height and diameter on machine faster using laser!

[@haimerusallc]

Sounds like your facility appreciates precise tech! Shrink fit has been present in the industry for some time, but as a continually evolving technology, the possible applications are growing. Also, while using a laser on your machine tool is an option, utilizing a presetter allows for that machine to be making chips instead, thus increasing productivity. Be sure to check out our side-by-side comparison of laser presetting and our Microset presetter: kzbin.info/www/bejne/r4mle5SvhtKmoZo

[@holamwu7663]

Why not use something that is make in USA ? maritool is awesome too

[@ipadize]

13:50 Boom Bob :D

[@patrickdupuis4871]

we have shrink fit at our work its excellent , unfortunately we cannot use it all the time, not good for those with pacemakers

[@VanguardSys]

this looks like the nostromo spaceship! however the process is complex and labor intensive - THIS should and must be automated with robotic arms or a center - u insert holder, tool, scan and all this happens auto - u can even have an additional magazine for tools and holders -

[@haimerusallc]

We’ve seen some customers already moving in that direction; definitely a possibility!

[@VanguardSys]

@@haimerusallc noted - our shop in brooklyn - is looking into this - hence very apropos we seen this video - who can we reach out to?

[@haimerusallc]

@@VanguardSys Please feel free to reach out to [e-mail] and someone would be happy to help!

[@thomashenderson3901]

@@haimerusallc Where can I get parts to repair my 3D taster probe? Sadly crashed it and bent the internal arm. (I'm in the UK)

[@haimerusallc]

@@thomashenderson3901 Please contact our Haimer UK team at [e-mail].

[@byron3373]

OK so I'm going to assume that those weights won't come out at 11000 rpm without thread locker and that you have to run coolant or will heat transfer from endmill not be enough to " unshrink" the " interference" fit if run dry ? ( but ok who doesn't run coolant these days )

[@85CEKR]

I would assume the same thing about the weights as well but as for the holder getting hot enough to "unshrink fit" the tool... our doing something very wrong if your tool and holder get that hot.

[@haimerusallc]

Actually, our screws are rated for 40,000 RPM once they are bottomed out in the threaded hole. Shrink fit will work whether you run coolant or not, but you definitely want to clean the holder before shrinking it again!

[@theredviking7131]

Can i just come an intern i know a little progarming working hard and love your energy.

[@ЛитвяковДенис]

Смотрю и грустно становится, ребята работают на свежем оборудовании, с хорошей тех поддержкой и делают деньги,а не наше постоянное жмотство и экономия на всём. Удачи в развитии канала, да и в целом.

[@SuperMapupa]

зато у вас ракеты летят и плавятся ;)

[@xfxox]

Это всё сделано на ворованные деньги, естественно жмотство и экономия им не снилась

[@xfxox]

@@SuperMapupa не плавятся. Иначе бы не летели

[@stbentoak5047]

We have been doing this since late 90's. We ran 1/32 Dia ball nose end mills in 15k RPM twin spindle Matsuura's and shrink fit was the only way to achieve perfect balance to give those tools any life in hardened Stainless Steel....

[@rogueworkzknives3697]

That's just awesome reduce your setup time....not a cheap setup

[@haimerusallc]

It's an investment, but the potential ROI is huge!

[@thomasandersen8309]

I worked with a simular shrinker 20years ago......nothing new about that........and for small companies its way too expensive........but it works......and its fast and presise.....

[@haimerusallc]

Shrink fit technology has been in the industry for some time, but the number of applications it can be used in is constantly growing! We don’t just offer shrink fit machines for big shops - contact us about our entry-level models!

[@thomasandersen8309]

@@haimerusallc its not the shinking device that costs,but all the holders.. Dont think me wrong ,it works ,i love it......but too expensive....😊

[@sa15sa21]

Good

[@daveticehurst4191]

I take it when the tool is blunt you have to throw away the tool and holder, unless you can un shrink it ? Regards from Australia.

[@renz3748]

No, the holder is re-usable. The heat thermally expands the hole of the holder so that a tool can fit in, when it cools it contracts again clamping onto the tool. To remove just reheat to expand the hole to replace tool.

[@gustavopineda9552]

Should turn and put sleeve over tool automatically

[@MO-zu9xq]

They have that option

[@benthurber5363]

"We news to drop our prices." Yes, race to the bottom, let me know how it works out😂

[@DolezalPetr]

too high tech, insane

[@qwerty3663]

While it does have merit to add human-readable text to the printed label, it doesn't make sense to print a QR code as the whole system is using a Data Matrix. Why not stay with Data Matrix throughout? Then you could just repeat the Data Matrix code laser etched on the tool holder, which is essentially a license plate or serial number for tracking purposes. Then the user could visually verify that the label Data Matrix matches the one on the tool holder while applying it or subsequently. Thus preventing putting the wrong label on a tool holder because you know it's going to happen eventually.

[@haimerusallc]

Many manufacturers are heading in this direction, but implementation is an investment. HAIMER aims to offer a variety of solutions for all businesses, no matter their size.

[@сережкафилиппыч]

Ничего не понимаю но интересно очень 😵

[@TerrorBootCamp]

As a trained machinist from Germany this isn't new.

[@Iowahurler82]

I used to work as a union millwright up until 2 years ago (got out to stop traveling), and I knew this existed for tool holders for a couple years now.

[@jesusisalive3227]

I can't afford the endmill he installed lol

[@snakedike]

Haha. I have a tool drawer.

[@gamingpc3475]

Why do you grunt like you are constipated so much?

[@1320wolf]

Tiffany cufflinks

[@Mrgnothing1]

We just dunk our tool in a box off coolant until its cool.

[@haimerusallc]

Cleaner and time-saving - a great benefit to our enclosed cooling system!

[@Mrgnothing1]

@@haimerusallc we have haimer heat shrink machine with some sort of cooling thing but it is much quicker to dunk it in coolant for a few seconds. But i agree it is less messy

[@chraven69]

Shrink fit? How about we change the other types of fit names whilst your at it to. . Flopy fit and wobbly fit. . Instead of. Interference fit, transition fit, and clearance fit. Nice setup. Its like your setting up qualified tooling.

[@kingozymandias2988]

These crazy germans

[@1Corinthians151-4]

drop prices, yeah how about we raise prices so everything isnt 20c and the worker get 2 cents for his work, big money, great employees, small money, slave money.

[@palmer_fabrication_]

Soooooo expensive

[@marka9261]

whats the price?

[@palmer_fabrication_]

@@marka9261 over 100k in tooling.

[@marka9261]

@@palmer_fabrication_ you mean all this laboratory ?

[@palmer_fabrication_]

@@marka9261 Yes the entire tool crib setup

[@JacobBennett45]

$$$

[@mekore]

must be german...

[@acstaff93]

I'm sorry but waste of time

[@acstaff93]

Alot of messing about just for a bloody tool

[@1Corinthians151-4]

stupid, just use collets. all that crap is way over priced just for some tool holding. put the tool in the collet, and go.

[@krazykillar4794]

Why does the haimer shrink fit machine cost so much compared to others .