CNC violin making machine, CNC router for violin instrument

[@laurencelance586]

As a woodworker and as a violinist I have no problems with this method of making an instrument. Of course these machines are very expensive and one must recapture that investment, but such methods may make it possible for students who cannot afford a decent hand made instrument to do so with one made in this manner.

[@ZhenhuanMachine]

Yes, right. Thanks.

[@georgealin7472]

Between this one and one made by exploited people in some fucked up country I'll go with this one. You may be a man of passion but unfortunately this cannot be said about everyone

[@glennlopez6772]

You have invited interesting comments! Please reconsider these words: 1. Affordable, deserving, they have such a lot and exploitation of labour. ( There could be sweat shops any where! ) It seems more about a cause. 2. We all enjoy modern conveniences and this C N.C. is truly marvelous. However don't let it give you a complex! The only worrying aspect is the high rate of removal of wood and the deep heating all in one go! These shops can boast and corner the the finest woods but will the machined parts be dimensionally stable. Will the woods retain their intrinsic desired physical qualities or would it turn out to be a waste of prized aged wood. Slower working speeds will defeat the cost advantages but could give great accuracy and repeatibility. I wish I could be a builder like you but in my area procuring small quantities is a problem. As the knowhow is no longer secret I personally would prefer a good hand made instrument instead of an old Stradivarius.

[@lucasmhevia]

Im luthier and violinplayer and I accept even the chinese`s violins, they allow to enter to the violin`s world for 40 u$s. They really have everything you need to know to study. Also I have one of this cheaps violins, with some modifications and Helicore Daddario strings and till the actual day, I cant belive how it sounds.

[@sasha42196]

@@glennlopez6772 Lots of words, but I have no idea what you said. Do you?

[@studiosinger]

Whoever made the machine is genius!

[@axlcrush1954]

We marvel at the hand crafting skills of master violin makers, and frown on machine made, but objectively, the production and programming for this machine requires tremendous amount of skill too, if not more.

[@basneelen7983]

But once your machine is programated the work is done, and you copy hundreds of the exact same violins. A master violin maker always inproves his builds on his experiences and puts his soul and craftmanship in the instrument he is making. Now you will say that a program maker does just the same, but the part that bothers me is that when you make violins this way, the intrument and the builder will no longer be unique. You can buy a program and the right machine for it, but you can't buy skill and experience to build them manually...

[@grinninggoat5369]

Nobody attends an Orchestral event or buys a fine instrument to applaud a computer programmer. I would suggest to those who think that newer trend is all and fine to do, that they should maybe rather want to attend Raves, listen to and critique Dubstep drops amongst their friends or play something that requires batteries with the label of Roland or Casio on it.

[@gpetheri]

8:30 sounds better than most violin players...

[@adamm4064]

I bet this machine cost as much as a small house. Super cool though and the programmer has skills.

[@Frankscao]

Yes, it is not cheap. Around USD 95000.

[@ChrisHillmanKnows]

Probably costs much more than a house.

[@PrinceWesterburg]

I don't think there is a programmer - You give the control software a 3D CAD model and it works out how to move the tool then stores that as a work file. Its the same with rats-nests in PCB design, the track layout is done by software with no intervention from the user.

[@sasha42196]

Very large house.

[@JohnnyArtPavlou]

All this machinery making Renaissance instruments can still be open-hearted...

[@nourdraw1548]

This is 5 axis my friend, don't underestimate your machine!

[@ZhenhuanMachine]

5-axis means five servo motors for 5 actions.

[@nourdraw1548]

Franks Cao exactly, XYZ are regular. The head is rotating and the stock is rotating, does sound like 5 actions to me

[@MG-bn9yc]

So when they say handmade they are referring to the robotic hand

[@muzician338]

The Cremonese masters like Stradivari etc. had to use a foot treadle to run their CNC machines.

[@n.g.mmusicals7446]

Plz send all details about violin neck cnc machine Mr frank

[@ZhenhuanMachine]

Please let me know your email.

[@kameijohnwilson9208]

I hope more machine would be used and violin price goes down

[@zeriano8590]

1 y later, but decent violin isn't pricy, around 100$

[@lucyscarlet5567]

Hi. What material was used in the making of this violin and would it be possible to get the files to replicate this? Thanks, Lucy S

[@ZhenhuanMachine]

Thanks for your interest. Could you please send email to [e-mail]? B/R

[@당근마스터-c5o]

OMG.. Can i..?

[@joeh4232]

thats really cool. I guess it would make front and back plates also?

[@Frankscao]

Dear, very sorry that this machine can only produce the neck. Please send me your front and back plate by email: [e-mail].

[@davidvoyance4522]

It is easier to make the head. How about the whole plates?

[@ZhenhuanMachine]

Dear David, the blank material is just a piece of wood plate.

[@Kiboz2000]

Fantastic machine

[@zslovakiamusical5603]

Hello. Dear, I want purchase this machine for making the violin machine..please tell me the how much its cost.

[@ZhenhuanMachine]

Dear, this machine costs USD 98,500.

[@zslovakiamusical5603]

@@ZhenhuanMachine how many neck we make in one time.& wht is tax rate.

[@VanessaLouredo]

Hi, do you sell this project for cnc?

[@ZhenhuanMachine]

What is your meaning, sir?

[@ekok2379]

I do not know what to do.

[@OzgurSarer]

SKYNET is watchin yo...

[@grinninggoat5369]

I would imagine that the initial cost of a violin made this way would still not be cheap unless other non-musical or more quickly produced, faster selling items were also made on the machine that could help recoup the cost of the machine quickly. Even if I'm wrong about that previous statement, I don't see anyone other than violin students of the nerdy type and children oblivious to perceived and tangible value wanting an instrument with a label exclaiming their instrument was made by "Stradi-3P-O"; especially as far as resale value. And, as for sound quality, it may be good but nobody would have something with uniqueness unless paying to have it's dimensions tailored later by a luthier or, the milling machine was custom programmed to mill the plates and such things to each buyer's particular specs/style of playing (which would require the involvement of a luthier to work with the mill programmer for each customer unless the choices were pre-determined and very limited). If that could be offered, it might not be so bad for sound quality and matching to any particular end user's style but still, that can be had by a good luthier on any type instrument (CNC milled or not) and most of all don't forget...… resale value should not be based solely on who in the past played the instrument well, and I admit it should be regardless of the maker as well, but should be mostly assessed on the merit of the instrument itself and how many people it helped to play it like an Angel (or Devil). I see that hard to accomplish with just a milling machine. All the above being said, I'm sure all of the big operational, and usually outsourced violin manufacturers are salivating over machines like these while trying to find a way to spin a sense of increased quality to their customers while actually only reducing their overhead and payroll costs. My hat's off for the maker of this milling machine in that regard! Of course, I could be wrong about everything I said! lol

[@Turboy65]

Pretty cool!

[@thomassiegler9898]

How can you expect a lovely sounding instrument made by a machine that produces such ugly noises? What's the point of milling a violin scroll, an item that is supposed to be a work of art, carved diligently and meticulously by the maker, showing his individual creativity? Every piece of wood is different, and a violin needs to have the ear, the eye and the feel of its maker. So machines will never be able to take over in this realm. It will never be a violin, just a VSO (violin shaped object).

[@rossthefiddler5890]

Have you ever fitted a bridge to a violin? Did you start with the 'machined' blank or did you cut the bridge totally from a block of maple? No, we use machine blanks & then finish them by hand. These machined violin parts can still be finished by hand to give a final 'hand made' instrument. I don't know if that is the case here though.

[@muzician338]

Presumably you're aware of how long it takes to carve a neck by hand. The point is this is how you make an instrument that's good enough to learn on without paying a boutique shop price. Yes, a hand-carved scroll and neck is exquisite - so is the pricetag.

[@focuscnc]

Hi ,I am interested in your spindle , Can it change the tool ? How much unit price ?

[@ZhenhuanMachine]

Thank you very much for your interest. What is your purpose of the machine? Please send me email [e-mail].

[@ZhenhuanMachine]

Please contact [e-mail]

[@symphonic824]

Program hawe much

[@ZhenhuanMachine]

sorry, we don't provide program singly.

[@jfan4reva]

Perhaps those of you who don't like the idea of CNC parts would prefer this kzbin.info/www/bejne/gGjWY2ysetRkba8 Hand made with no power tools.

[@GreenAppleee]

The weird part of made in china

[@markkulyas2418]

I think he needs a coffee break, he doesn't have much personality.

[@aumproject]

process : awsome! footage: awful !

[@rd9831]

It will be a sad day when machines play the violin and totally eliminate the musicians.

[@falakr2547]

This worries me, because this means that every violin will be exactly the same. The machine will make precise copies every time. Human error makes these instruments beautiful. A machine would ruin that.

[@jfan4reva]

Not to worry. Every piece of wood is unique, even after it's been run through a machine that makes 'precise copies every time'. Ask luthiers about human error making things beautiful. They work very hard to keep human error out of their instruments. The advantage of a hand made instrument is that the human who creates it can see and feel the characteristics of each piece of wood, and can compensate for its unique characteristics. Currently, machines cannot.

[@PrinceWesterburg]

I had four 'identical' electric guitar bodies (read: Slabs of wood), all mahogany and the notes they resonated at where over an octave difference in range, 14 semitones of memory serves.

[@WombieFerguson]

That's just silly. Instruments are merely tools. Some are easier to use, some look better, some sound better, some produce unique tones, some are more affordable, and all of these options will be widely in demand for the foreseeable future. Also, 99% of people who like a particular song couldn't give a shit less what instrument was used, just that it sounds good. It's frankly about time string instruments became more affordable. This is a necessary step in changing peoples perception of classical music as something only elites can enjoy.

[@linkreincarnate9402]

Then just buy a machined one and sand/ plane it by hand. Now it's unique. (Not that that has any actual value)

[@edloki3057]

Dude, you still have to hand-finish the violin. I don't mind the machine taking the bulk of the work. I built a few fiddles and the most tedious part of it is removing material. Machines do the bulk removal of material, human hands do the finesse work.

[@fiddlefaddle1]

My problem with all of this is the loss of countless jobs replaced by machine. If millions of people are replaced by machines and don't work and make a paycheck , how can they afford to buy anything that these machines produce? It rather defeats the purpose of being alive and contributing but, what the hell do the elite care as long as they save a buck. Oops, there goes their bucks when people can't afford to buy anything that they make. You can keep it. My violin was made by hand.

[@MGPL_]

We used to work in fields and factories 7 days a week. It’s progression. Plus this will likely increase demand by driving the cost of these grossly overpriced instruments

[@KM-px8cs]

Machines should have no part in violin sculpting.

[@Frankscao]

Dear, there is no any original violin sculpting, but only program from drawing.

[@KM-px8cs]

+Cao Franks That's not what I meant nor my point. Violins should be hand made for multiple reasons. Are rolls royces made on a assembly line??

[@Frankscao]

Dear, the automatic machine will finish the part completely, no manual modifications more.

[@KM-px8cs]

Whatever you say.

[@Frankscao]

Dear, I am sorry that I can't understand your meaning. Are you looking for the machine? If do, please give me your email and part details. B/R

[@tinoesterhuizen4433]

Wouldn't want a CNC violin for free.