Competition in the CPU, GPU, NPU between Intel, AMD, Nvidia, Qualcomm and Apple is honestly the best thing that has happened in the last 4-5 years for us consumers. The leaps and bounds in sheer performance, efficiency and capabilities has truly ushered in generational leaps and bounds in our capabilities.
@brandonlong27965 ай бұрын
Love it! Can’t imagine what the next 5-10 years are going to look like. Absolutely amazing
@Space97.5 ай бұрын
For real I couldn't have said it any better 💯 👏
@JayDee-b5u5 ай бұрын
Tsmc tsmc tsmc tsmc tsmc tsmc
@miyagiryota92385 ай бұрын
Now gpu competition should be next. Qualcomm, apple and others should make gpus too
@realdennis795 ай бұрын
True. How long we've been stuck on 4 core for top dollars. Laptops with 2 cores and no HT. It was stagnated so long. Now 8 cores in laptops are bare minimum.
@Answerx325 ай бұрын
Thank you Qualcomm, thank you Apple, thank you AMD. If it wasn’t for these guys, we would still get the same cpus from intel every year, only with a different name.
@divyanshbhutra50715 ай бұрын
Mainly AMD and Apple. Qualcomm just had to catch up to it's competitors. AMD kicked Intel hard in the desktop and server markets, while Apple hit them in the notebook market.
@1Dome5 ай бұрын
@@divyanshbhutra5071but Qualcomm brought ARM to Windows laptops, they deserve credit.
@divyanshbhutra50715 ай бұрын
@@1Dome Yup. Definitely. Just that I'm waiting for Nvidia and AMD chips. They'll be EPYC, pun intended.
@asiano33855 ай бұрын
You are upgrading your CPU every year? Interesting.
@Answerx325 ай бұрын
@@asiano3385 It's not about upgrading every year, it's about the fact that technology wouldn't move significantly forward only with intel. let's say you are Intel and you make the best cpus in the world and everybody else is not even close, there is no point for you to invest a lot and improve your design too much. Those CPUs will sell anyway, even you improve their performance and energy efficiency by 5-10% every generation.
@enginerunsable5 ай бұрын
Look at these boys compete, great to see. I'm Rooting for everybody
@mangostickyrye5 ай бұрын
Wow. Those weren’t jabs at X Elite. Those were some haymakers. Gotta love the competition between the SoC OEMs.
@AsgarAzwad5 ай бұрын
Intel is now desperate, and that makes me optimistic for the future of all consumers
@williamjoseph13005 ай бұрын
They are kicking things into high gear. For too long they sat on their hands, no more
@PaulsTechSpace5 ай бұрын
Drastically improving technological architectures is not desperate.
@yojanselcuevas98295 ай бұрын
Now we're talking, they explained about AI, SoC, efficency and PC gaming performance with examples unlike Qualcomm with SD X Elite, which they talked about AI, apps for business and testing mobile games. Can't wait to get a laptop with that chip
@innosantoАй бұрын
Qualcomm did it 6 month earlier, it was a 1st gen product, and when AI windows were being introduced on the same day.
@ohwhatworld58515 ай бұрын
This mans pants are getting higher and higher with every keynote he does.
@jonnyturner71145 ай бұрын
I'd like to see him do the same with the suit jacket, know what I mean? Less jacket, more keynote. That's the performance we need.
@daveinpublic5 ай бұрын
They should make a slide about it, show the percent increase of his waist line versus last year.
@snowflakemelter71715 ай бұрын
He Is still growing.
@NizarNoor4 ай бұрын
I'll upgrade my Surface Pro when it's equipped with this new Intel concoction. Compatibility is critically important for me.
@tejeswar2 ай бұрын
Same here as well, I didn't jump on the x-elite hype train and buy arm laptops. As rumors suggested intel has something interesting in their sleeves, have been awaiting this moment. Let's see what reviewers say.
@Tatar_Piano5 ай бұрын
What about the price though? Qualcomm is like 2 times cheaper than previous intels?
@jpat36805 ай бұрын
x elite is cheaper, but the laptops with it are more expensive.
@ericspecullaas28415 ай бұрын
@@jpat3680 I saw a video talking about the X Elite costing $145 per chip. But I'm not 100% sure of that figure
@Tatar_Piano5 ай бұрын
@@jpat3680 starting price for surface laptop is 999, i think it's the cheapest they have ever been, I'm not talking about budget surface go calculators
@jyaneso4 ай бұрын
Same performance?
@RobertDunn3105 ай бұрын
It's nice to see Intel (and AMD) be motivated to create more competitive, low-powered SoCs in response to the competition from Qualcomm. Something that can get 12 or more hours of battery life can be "good enough" for most people while maintaining all the advantages of the x86 platform.
@Jadepeanut5 ай бұрын
Yeah 12 hours SOT is good enough. Most devices get around 6-8 hours which sucks.
@RobertDunn3105 ай бұрын
@@Jadepeanut 6-8 hours is good enough for working/web browsing. I remember the first laptops I ever got only got like 1-2 hours of battery life tops and THAT definitely sucked.
@Jadepeanut5 ай бұрын
@@RobertDunn310 Yeah its good enough. My moto phone gives like 6 hours SOT and almost a day of standby. But for power users 12 hours SOT would be perfect for future. And i think we would get more than 12 hours by 2026 or 2027 because of 2nm processors and more efficient oled tech. Plus i read there is some new tech making batteries more denser so we can make slimmer devices and Apple is using it.
@luispinto85705 ай бұрын
x86 will be dead soon.
@The_Prizessin_der_Verurteilung5 ай бұрын
@@RobertDunn310 6 - 8 is easily fine, even the best power efficient devices like the Nintendo Switch only get 4 - 6 at best. Though 12 hours would be great cause then they could push even more intensive stuff for around the same times as current mobile games last.
@McBain20245 ай бұрын
Surprised they didn't role out Jamiroquai to sing Virtual Insanity.. You know keep it fresh n cool
@RemofRenaissance5 ай бұрын
This (your) comment deserves a ton of likes 😂. Virtual insanity 😂😂😂
@ccoco76895 ай бұрын
I was considering a Elite X laptop but now I guess I'll hold off until the lunar lake to so see that's up with that. Plus, until then we will have a better picture of the windows ARM experiment and how committed they will be to optimize apps and games. If they made only few apps to be ready only to flash them during the presentation and that was it, then it will not be worth it.
@xealit4 ай бұрын
Intel is a top notch company, one of America's crown jewels (among many). All the best to them. And I bet they'd get themselves up to speed without any government CHIP acts. Security is a crucial thing, but it does not mean protectionism and de-globalization.
@innosantoАй бұрын
It does mean support to the foundry of US and after all being poor is an indirect protectionism of the poorer countries. It is not more fair than protectionism actually it is less fair. You are asking people who pay 10 times more on their rent to compete with workers in countries which have 10 percent of the monthly expenses. And then all great skillsets move to the countries with cheap food and rents so that people with 10 timws the expenses dont have even their jobs and those countries to not even have the crucial skill factories of the future. A fair competition competes on the real value of economies not on the fake relative value. Real globalisation removes and equalizes on the different levels of relative expenses and then lets compwtition roll on , thay is real globalisation and requires balancing settings. otherwise it is like making a poundland salary in england and living in india where you make more than the presidents. how can a factory where 2 small sandwivhes cost 18 pounds compete with a country where they cost 1 pound and hwere there are no human rights or environmwntal protection measurss, they would have to be 18 times more competitive and more so since they have environmwntal protection etc costs. so globalisation is only real when it balances on the interstate imbalanced inequilibriums otherwise it is not real globalisation, but a word industrialists and thr ultrarich use for profiteering against the middleclass while moving theirnprofits and houses in tax havens. other interpretations are simplistic or intentionally misled.
@mandella22415 ай бұрын
This presenter is old in business, way he talks, explaining every detail. He went hard onnit 🙂
@sirus3125 ай бұрын
Is this good for intel?
@QwertyQwerty-bd3tm5 ай бұрын
The difference between nvidia and intel ceo is so huge. He is literally reading the teleprompter.
@sirus3125 ай бұрын
Who is reading a teleprompter?
@The_Prizessin_der_Verurteilung5 ай бұрын
@@sirus312 [Insert Biden joke here]
@innosantoАй бұрын
He is a great engineer, one of great intel engineers of prior decades. He is not an advertiser. And he is not really reading much of a teleprompter anyway.
@capmendonca5 ай бұрын
I have to admit the Name of the chip its good "luna lake"
@danylosokolov20854 ай бұрын
There is an absolute impact on the whole planet in this hall
@turek7373 ай бұрын
Lunar Lake will be 40-60% better than current intel core ultra chips what mean 3h on heavy load vs 6h on current m3 macbooks 😢
@innosantoАй бұрын
Depends on laptop.
@Ruhgtfo2 ай бұрын
Does it support Android and emergency S.O.S like iPhone save driver from accident during critical time?!
@HamzaKhan-uc5zo3 ай бұрын
It is genuinly exciting to see all of these companies finally making some really good laptop cpus. From amd zen 5, apple m4, to lunar lake, battery life and performance will be insane.
@1fareast145 ай бұрын
2:35 in absolute terms or in power efficiency, the latter is more important for x elite target market. I know gelsinger claims it does, but we'll see
@liopardede92465 ай бұрын
Does anyone know what software is used during company presentations like these? surely not powerpoint? could it be pre rendered videos just played with the right timing?
@hilmyalmagthani26545 ай бұрын
my guess theyre use prezi
@InDadequate5 ай бұрын
nah thats powerpoint, just good use of background video and animations
@larscwallin5 ай бұрын
I'll just wait for actual devices to be out before getting my hopes up 😉
@skycladsquirrel5 ай бұрын
INTEL needs to do a better job of making it look sexy. At least wipe the finger prints off the CPUs.
@cesarordaz1395 ай бұрын
This CEO used to be super optimistic and full of energy. He’s very monotone in this presentation. I mean I would too if I knew that I was selling trash.
@oo--77145 ай бұрын
It is fine, it uses up to 15 watts, way more efficient than core ultra performance and 7840u. And uses a better gpu.
@jasonm20565 ай бұрын
Nah, he is pissed. Hungry to eat the competition and knows he has a good thing but it's just a few more months away and he is a bit Autistic which is great and I can sense more of a frustration from him (Intel) not being accepted at the table by the masses just yet.
@PaulsTechSpace5 ай бұрын
What are you talking about, he sounds fine 💀
@SumFlyyyGuy5 ай бұрын
What's the comparison to AMD 9 series?
@-AHoangAnhKhoa5 ай бұрын
I think they have to release the Arrow Lake in order to compare it fully.
@pieluver12345 ай бұрын
Intel doesn't even compete. The GPU + NPU on AMD chips are in another league
@SumFlyyyGuy5 ай бұрын
So what I'm hearing is Team Red is still late game lapping the 🔵 ? Wow, keeping steady traction.
@ivantheterrible43175 ай бұрын
@@-AHoangAnhKhoa Late September- Early October 2024 is the presentation for the Arrow Lake which is better.
@rgbplague78345 ай бұрын
@@pieluver1234 The fastest AMD Strix Point SOC has 80 total TOPs and that too at nearly double the power of Lunar Lake. Intel LNL has a total of 120 TOPs. AMD has no answer for Lunar Lake, nothing in the power range. Arrow Lake will compete in the higher power mobile devices.
@PizzalaserTheGoat5 ай бұрын
I saw this event and may catch up to Apple Silicon and Qualcomm Chips.
@runninginthe90s755 ай бұрын
Catch up? Intel are about to destroy both qualcomm and apple. They gonna proof x86 can be as efficient as ARM.
@ngroy86365 ай бұрын
40 Tops at what precision? 16/32 GB seems useable but can be better for LLMs. Such of those 13B models. I think minimum of 24 GB ram should be implemented consider users also runs other programs.
@benjaminpedi91225 ай бұрын
Its a 5-20w chip designed for thin and light laptops. If you need to run 13B model arrowlake and a dedicated gpu is a much better option
@luffye15 ай бұрын
This video looks so 2008
@pumpedupbro42005 ай бұрын
Because it is from 2008
@luffye15 ай бұрын
@@pumpedupbro4200 What? 💀
@DivinesLegacy5 ай бұрын
@@luffye1yeah bruh this is an old reupload
@shudoy93865 ай бұрын
With AMD, Qualcomm and Apple on the rise, Intel gotta change. Otherwise might end up like Nokia, Blackberry and Microsoft Windows Mobile.
@tatoom405 ай бұрын
US govt. won't ever let them go down. They are the only bleeding edge fabs situated in us the likes that can compete/hope to compete with TSMC etc. They'll pump it up until it works for sure.
@悟-g2f5 ай бұрын
The only part of all this technology that has changed in the NPU which is formally known as math coprocessor 😂.. making it programmable changed everything.
@TabalugaDragon2 ай бұрын
Hey Intel, if you are so open, where is undervolting on most laptop chips?
@69memnon694 ай бұрын
I lose interest when they refer to any recently released chip of theirs as great... Also touting legacy support has never eventuated in a win for consumers.
@YananoBere4 ай бұрын
I hope they focus just as much on the POLISH and reliability of their chips. They are insanely buggy and Windows has always gotten the blame.
@El.Duder-ino5 ай бұрын
Finally Intel's chip portfolio for consumers is looking attractive again. Competition is great! Without it Intel would be stuck in the past while now is thinking way ahead in the future.
@BlackEagle3525 ай бұрын
Will this be in the next lunar Rover though?
@fakuridesne5 ай бұрын
still on x86?
@computerscience11014 ай бұрын
Yes because it is better
@azmeerm5 ай бұрын
This man looks depressed !
@hherpdderp5 ай бұрын
I think hes looking down at a teleprompt sometimes. His pace is fast too so I'm guessing he isnt too into presenting. Campare that to Apple where Jobs would go slow so he could bask 😂.
@user-ux3gh3nt8i5 ай бұрын
Have u never heard of the m4 ….lol
@sirus3125 ай бұрын
@@hherpdderphes an engineer not a public speaker
@7_of_95 ай бұрын
MS Windows Recall is the perfect reason why we must use Linux!
@northwatch85325 ай бұрын
Arrow Lake?
@daveinpublic5 ай бұрын
Lion Eddy
@yosha83655 ай бұрын
Lunar lake
@moow9503 ай бұрын
Competition is good! It brings out the best of all!
@chandranshpandey19295 ай бұрын
How management destroys great companies
@alphaomega1545 ай бұрын
PUBLIC digital service/softwares providers of any kind should be seen as a 'SUPERMARKET", or a "MALL". it should be OPEN. on the other hand, the "PERSONAL COMPUTERS", the "CLIENTS" should be seen as a "HOUSE". it should have closed "gates" and locks, and have FULL PRIVILEGES FOR PRIVACIES. and nobody should trespass unless permitted by the house inhabitants.
@tough_boyTM4 ай бұрын
Finally we consumers are experiencing Innovation 🎉😂
@davidpjimenez5 ай бұрын
I adore this battle between companies and I love seeing Intel striking back hard! Is back to the top? No. But damn is a good generational improvement!
@Daysra2 ай бұрын
This guy is a great speaker.
@Chryeon5 ай бұрын
And im eager to see any youtuber going to do demos on ai chip comparison lol 😂😂
@zxn-hn4tv5 ай бұрын
everyone went full AI AI AI, what happened to faster gaming ?
@RedOkamiDev5 ай бұрын
if you could process billions of tokens at the fastest I assure the lack of fasting gaming is not because of hardware anymore.
@ocularpatdown5 ай бұрын
Tech bros are sheep
@DanielM.-mq4rm5 ай бұрын
PC gaming is dead as we know it. It was dead with crypto a few years ago and this time it is 10 times worse. Hardware is to expensive game development is to expensive and a shrinking sales market...
@asiano33855 ай бұрын
I lost interest in AI the first month OpenAI got released. It is already boring to me. The only thing I like about it is when being lazy searching on google, ChatGPT will answer faster.
@tejeswar2 ай бұрын
Finally, Intel wakes up from its slumber.
@SMONclips4 ай бұрын
even though it was a staged joke, didnt like how he asked the guy to hurry up installing that rack
@benzed16185 ай бұрын
Ai=Ai=Ai= Ai Ai
@list17265 ай бұрын
Thanks for posting
@fkdoos19265 ай бұрын
The real question is : Is it ARM based?
@polystyrene_gangster5 ай бұрын
no it's x86
@LeicaM115 ай бұрын
WTF?😂
@asiano33855 ай бұрын
I wouldn't accept ARM based CPU for a desktop daily driver. But if it was mandatory... well then it would be better to make a x86/ARM hybrid.
@JJ2023.3 ай бұрын
I was looking for a gaming PC I wouldn't even consider buying one with an intel CPU
@courtlaw15 ай бұрын
I am more hyped for the new CPU arms race thanks to A.I.
@joshsmit7795 ай бұрын
Why is that chip so damn small?
@bhuvaneshs.k6385 ай бұрын
They r using TSMC for fab
@Asian_Connection4 ай бұрын
Don't quit your morning job. This is a terrible delivery. You would even make Nvidia chip sound like crap.
@IO-896YT5 ай бұрын
10nm?
@bhuvaneshs.k6385 ай бұрын
No it's TSMC 4nm 3nm
@hassanaoude78955 ай бұрын
Why is he pissed?
@Batmancontingencyplans5 ай бұрын
The person who makes the presentations needs to be fired. Nvidia presentations were Epic
@wfpnknw325 ай бұрын
The big difference between intel and nvidia is that nvidia actually does sota ai research outputting impressive models across a wide range of applications. So they know how to optimise their system for coming developments.
@VISHVplus5 ай бұрын
Intel is just one year away from beating the s... out of Apple M and AMD Zen also Qualcomm. x-86 is and will be the king.
@Mateus012345 ай бұрын
you're talking about intel on which universe?
@sadiegirl91005 ай бұрын
Intel is way behind
@pumpedupbro42005 ай бұрын
Ok Boomer
@xlr555usa5 ай бұрын
Spend less and get more! AMAZING
@VadimMarchenko5 ай бұрын
Can we have great performance but Copilot -
@montramedia4 ай бұрын
Gotta sell this better
@joannot67065 ай бұрын
Everyone is scrambling to catch up to google with AI accelerated hardware on device. microsoft, apple, intel, amd. Meanwhile google has had on device Tensor processing units on phones for years to do accelerated AI computing.
@labaladalada2 ай бұрын
intel help solves problems that don't exist
@OperationNonsense5 ай бұрын
i grew up with intel CPUs, which is why this is extra sad for me intel is a dying company with one foot already in the coffin. soon in the near future, this video footage will be a historic archive that reminds people there used to be a powerhouse company called intel.
@capmendonca5 ай бұрын
Like Nokia!!!
@pumpedupbro42005 ай бұрын
Intel n Nokia should have a pity party
@computerscience11014 ай бұрын
Watch the video first
@vikineo5 ай бұрын
3:20 misspoke
@MichaelBohemian5 ай бұрын
Caught that too! 40% less performance did NOT sound correct.
@saiphaneeshk.h.54825 ай бұрын
I guess he meant 40% less power usage. 40% less performance? They are digging their own grave.
@samwebber31095 ай бұрын
real question wouldn’t anyone trying to do ai anything get a gpu for it not like a nice intel cpu
@hyperpedro28685 ай бұрын
Intel is really in deep troubles. Thay got completeley outperformed by Apple a few years ago. ANd Qualcomm is giving them a hard time with PCs. The slept for a decade and suddenly the realized they are too late at the party.
@Phil-D835 ай бұрын
Need zluda support to run cuda code on these
@ThePresentFuture5 ай бұрын
Is Intel even aware of what they're missing? NVIDIA's dominating, Groq's innovating, Intel's blabbering.
@filipecruz71035 ай бұрын
Thanks cnets
@canonest5 ай бұрын
oh look, intel had a chip day and literally no one cared! intel, please stop wasting US government money on "trying" to create a hype, your time is over.
@computerscience11014 ай бұрын
I think the no one in this world is just you. There are so many people prising it
@canonest4 ай бұрын
@@computerscience1101 oh really, how "many"? :)
@Otts2874 ай бұрын
At this point, you've only proven how unwilling you were to innovate for your consumers over the last few DECADES because you had monopoly. If it weren't for the competition, you'd still be giving your customers the same incremental updates, and selling numbers indicating "performance improvements" that were barely there. So, goodbye intel! You had your fill. I'll take my chances with the new kids on the block.
@generativeresearch5 ай бұрын
There's nothing revolutionary about Intel's chips
@computerscience11014 ай бұрын
Neither AMD's
@SirusStarTV5 ай бұрын
If intel new chips would be as good as Apple Silicon or X elite then no one really needs to write programs for arm
@jedipdx5 ай бұрын
iPad, iPhone, Mac. X86 may have got a life extension... but it's still dead.
@SirusStarTV5 ай бұрын
@@jedipdx x86 will definitely be dead on macs, but i'm talking about windows.
@Space97.5 ай бұрын
@lilinfinite 100% brother intel is trying so hard to keep x86 alive so much that they are in denial like what is he gonna tell us next? That x86 can get as "efficient" as "apples m-series chips while maintaining the same performance and 20+ hours of battery"? in which I would laugh hard because thats not true and we all know it lmao 😂 . arm is the future he's only delaying the inevitable.
@asiano33855 ай бұрын
I would accept ARM based CPUs only if they were x86 hybrid.
@emont5 ай бұрын
Made in Taiwan or are those will be made in US?
@akshayshetye87185 ай бұрын
my office laptop still works fine with 8th gen intel these edgy fanatics speak as if they run chatgpt servers in notebook pc🤣 also the AI thing on notebook is just a flashy hoax
@SuperTakeoff5 ай бұрын
Hottest chips in the game
@DG-hw8it5 ай бұрын
Is it made in USA? 🇺🇸
@austynr5 ай бұрын
No tsmc 3nm
@HOTSPURTAKES5 ай бұрын
Where else?
@weho_brian5 ай бұрын
nothing is made in the US
@eddy72365 ай бұрын
Taiwan
@PaulsTechSpace5 ай бұрын
@@austynrYes it is, 18A and I believe The GPU is designed on TSMC’s N3B
@HuntaKiller915 ай бұрын
Better not delayed until October/November AI 300 laptops/handhelds shud ne easily obtained by that time Im thinking of buying in year-end sale
@docaDB5 ай бұрын
Did I just witness a Justin Hammer industry's situation in this presentation quote Iron Man 3
@christianmbabazi97225 ай бұрын
My only concern just like The AMD AI chips The laptops that have these .will The ram chips be able to be upgradable cuz if not then I don't see the point of having these AI chips now in the smaller form factor yes that makes sense but if these were to be added like in bigger laptops or even give me laptops then I kind of suck if you can't upgrade the RAM
@akinoz5 ай бұрын
Sadly no more RAM upgrades for the Strix Point AI CPUs
@christianmbabazi97225 ай бұрын
@@akinoz dang
@williamjoseph13005 ай бұрын
I can’t wait for arrow lake, it’s great to look too far forward as an excuse to save money on new tech
@LionTurtle33 ай бұрын
Intel needs new leadership. Pat is not a convincing speaker, and looks tired on stage.
@stefangvozdiak16352 ай бұрын
He's not lookin very motivated :D
@ゲーム下手くそ人間-c3x5 ай бұрын
Looking Down
@AlvinSays5 ай бұрын
Damn naggy! Just selling air on limited performance
@primetradixnevafomo54125 ай бұрын
He literally said snapdragon X elite is already outdated 😂😂😂 all this noise and apple M4 max will still beat them
@computerscience11014 ай бұрын
They only manage to win in battery life Imao
@wayne87975 ай бұрын
So Intel weren’t able to make more efficient chips back then but all of a sudden now they can after Apple came out with their own chips four year ago? Ok, let’s see how they perform irl first. Count me as a skeptic.
@thespectator33125 ай бұрын
So apple weren't able to make laptop chip 10 years ago?
@nilsankarsblog2 ай бұрын
Once upon a time, Intel rule the processor market. Due to overly smart and marketing Intel now somehow surviving. We expect Intel to perform good.
@PhucThien15 ай бұрын
Intel is losing ... thanks AMD and Apple
@computerscience11014 ай бұрын
Imai dude didn't even watched the video and directly came to comments to thrash nonsense
@PhucThien14 ай бұрын
@@computerscience1101 soviet union doesn't have intel or amd, why do you have a computer to connect to the internet?
@lucian52465 ай бұрын
He can't wait to finish the presentation...depressing!
@ViksterG5 ай бұрын
God! What a boring, uninspiring dude. All this boomer company gotta learn from Jensen.
@das20035 ай бұрын
I love the way Gelsinger opens up with "Lunar Lake is a revolutionary design" - look over at Apple and Nvidia and you have chips being stitched together over a 10Tb per second connection. Intel are only catching up but its not "revolutionary".
@Space97.5 ай бұрын
Exactly brother being late to the party doesn't make your product "revolutionary" being out of this world does I'm tired of hearing this and I hope I'm not the only one 😂
@mutchlouis97075 ай бұрын
Not trusting them until they perform in actual devices