Pilot raises an important question about midair collision

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@WillAshcroft-g3i
@WillAshcroft-g3i 6 сағат бұрын
I'm a 4000 hour commercial helicopter pilot. The AA plane was doing what is was supposed to be doing. It had the right of way. The helicopter is capable of slowing or diverting. The video shows them at the same altitude. At night is easy to see aircraft lights. At LAX there is a helicopter route in front of the runways but it is not a free for all. Multiple times I have been told to hover in place, wait for the fixed wing to pass in front of you. Constantly in my career I have had to give way or make room for fixed wing. Don't forget there were two helicopter pilots and a crew chief on board the helo. That makes three eyes in the helicopter. Then another two in the AA plane. Military aircraft normally use another radio band but that does not disallow them to communicate with the tower. My take is the responsibility sits with the helo.
@kapilsds7
@kapilsds7 5 сағат бұрын
In movies that helicopter can see oncoming missiles but real life it can't see full size aircraft. I guess.....
@pongyi123
@pongyi123 5 сағат бұрын
Im a 14 yr Air Force veteran mainly Helicopters and I agree with you. Helicopters are maneuverable and can get out of the way, while it is much more difficult for a Jet to get out of the way. I also feel responsibility for this collision falls on the Helicopter air crew. No blame brings the people lost back though, my heart goes out to the families of all 67 people lost in this terrible accident. Trump is on the TV right now blaming it on Pete Buttigeig. If this man had a brain he would be dangerous, more so than he is now!
@skyboy1956
@skyboy1956 5 сағат бұрын
Mk 1 eyeball, dark conditions, sea of background lights, not a good recipe.
@Mars-si6gj
@Mars-si6gj 5 сағат бұрын
suicide? what do you think? Thanks!
@wades9327
@wades9327 5 сағат бұрын
Your take is political.
@kikimab
@kikimab 6 сағат бұрын
That helicopter came in sooo fast - like a car running a red light. At that point in final approach there is no way the plane that size could evade the helicopter. Why is the media blaming the plane???
@scillyautomatic
@scillyautomatic 6 сағат бұрын
That was my thought too. But I have nothing to compare the images to...
@Contrafactz
@Contrafactz 6 сағат бұрын
@@kikimab because it was intentional and they need to cover it up
@obsideon1343
@obsideon1343 6 сағат бұрын
@@Contrafactz Proof??? And for what reason???
@McHaro0079
@McHaro0079 6 сағат бұрын
It's from the viewpoint of the video that is widely circulated. Yes. But bare in mind that they were moving in 3-D space. If the plane was moving towards the camera, it would appeared that it hardly moved at all. I wonder if there were radar images of those plane and chopper available. It's too soon to tell.
@abrahamlevi3556
@abrahamlevi3556 6 сағат бұрын
The airliner pilots would have been given a vocal warning from the GPWS to pull up. They would have had to change configurations really fast and abort and follow the STAR instructions that are on the plate of the airport. They usually brief it more than once during a flight, one of which is before landing.
@NonStop337
@NonStop337 6 сағат бұрын
I am having a hard time understanding why the army helicopter was allowed to fly so close and low of the approach end of the runway.
@christopheblanchi4777
@christopheblanchi4777 6 сағат бұрын
The jet was cleared for landing and in final, the helicopter had no business being there. Why anyone cleared that military helicopters to cross an active final at a busy airport? These aircrafts were below 1000 feet, TCAS is inactive then, the plane had no reason to look out anywhere than in front of itself. This is fully controlled airspace and the tower is responsible for insuring aircraft separation. If the military wants to fly in a CTR, they need to behave just like all the other planes and get the same exact clearances. There is no reason why military aircraft should have any different clearance mechanisms.
@MAGASupremacy
@MAGASupremacy 6 сағат бұрын
the chopper pilot was a DEI commission. forced to be there by Biden.
@CaraVerde
@CaraVerde 5 сағат бұрын
The other report I've watched says the airplane changed the original landing plan, so they could land in different runway for some reasons. The question is, does the change communicated properly to other aircrafts around? I think we have to wait for the investigation result.
@epyoutube5218
@epyoutube5218 5 сағат бұрын
​@CaraVerde I think it was related to the high winds reported in the area. It was very windy and I think they can sometimes change normal runways and normal procedures. My guess is helicopter was expecting a "business as usual" routine and that's not what happened. Possible error on helicopter pilot or on the tower for not relaying runway landing changes due to wind. Just my un-educated guess. They say most crashes have more than one contributing factor though. It's probably more than just related to that. There are usually at least two contributing factors. Such as tower not relaying change and helicopter pilot assuming airplane position instead of verifying. The helicopter probably does these night training maneuvers at one of the busiest airports all the time (not sure why that's even allowed, yet another contributing factor) and posdibly the helicopter pilot had certain expectations and helicopter didn't confirm.
@douglastaylor43
@douglastaylor43 6 сағат бұрын
Why would the Army put civilians in danger for training? The Army is completely in the wrong here.
@Capital.C.619
@Capital.C.619 6 сағат бұрын
I live in San Diego. I think it was last year they were conducting trraining exercises landing in public parks in the middle of the night at Point Loma. People thought it was an invasion
@kentGrey
@kentGrey 6 сағат бұрын
Orders from higher ups.
@davemitchell6281
@davemitchell6281 5 сағат бұрын
agree
@oldRighty1
@oldRighty1 5 сағат бұрын
There are many helicopters that fly in that airspace all of the time for movement of VIPs, military personnel, etc. How are they supposed to be able to support that without training?
@sonnylatchstring
@sonnylatchstring 5 сағат бұрын
They had probably been practicing how to deport illegal immigrants since Monday.
@andrewc662
@andrewc662 6 сағат бұрын
Having only visual separation with a jet at nightime in a city environment seems like a bad idea.
@michaelrabie1833
@michaelrabie1833 5 сағат бұрын
Absolutely, stop mixing vfr traffic with IFR scheduled traffic and expecting one of the aircraft to do its own sepdration. Common, it is controlled airspace.
@Couldyoubeanymoreignorant
@Couldyoubeanymoreignorant 6 сағат бұрын
Let the blame game begin
@nineteen8026
@nineteen8026 6 сағат бұрын
Could be the result of DEI hiring; and not on merit.
@tttappin
@tttappin 5 сағат бұрын
In a previous response, " Who's the helicopter pilot," sad he's dead. Let the investigation conclude before we point fingers"
@TitaniumTurbine
@TitaniumTurbine 5 сағат бұрын
@@nineteen8026 Pardon my language, but that’s really f’ing ret*rded. I’d encourage folks to do some soul searching if they think that here. Accidents happen every single day of varying degrees, it isn’t always because of the boohoo boogeyman.
@Zelkova009
@Zelkova009 5 сағат бұрын
@@nineteen8026 So everything is a DEI hiring mistake? Do that mean you're a DEI hire as well? I'm sure you've made mistakes. Wait for the investigation rather than coming up with BS theories.
@dentatusdentatus1592
@dentatusdentatus1592 5 сағат бұрын
Well....Trump is firing people.
@vinquinn
@vinquinn 6 сағат бұрын
Why is the military doing helicopter training flights at night in the middle of one of the busiest airport patterns in the US. This is pure idiocy.
@RichardMcLaren
@RichardMcLaren 5 сағат бұрын
Well, they obviously don't have any experts, such as yourself, to tell them what to do.
@Chzydawg
@Chzydawg 5 сағат бұрын
I would assume they were....training. You train for the real thing by doing the real thing. It's really not that surprising, would you rather them have trained for night time ops during daylight hours? I can't imagine how that could go wrong.
@rizzivideocollection1902
@rizzivideocollection1902 5 сағат бұрын
Supposedly it was a Continuity of Govt training flight - which means evacuating the PResident and other senior leaders in the event of something bad happening - they practice that in all types of weather and conditions. Further, there is information out there that the helo pilot was using night vision goggles which could be a contributing factor. Regardless, it seems clear that helicopter was at fault, especially since it appears to have acknowledged to DCA Tower that it had CRJ in sight.
@alekseyp7730
@alekseyp7730 6 сағат бұрын
It’s fault of helicopter. It’s saying if you compare car and train car should yield to a train because trains Can’t stop.
@PV1230
@PV1230 6 сағат бұрын
helicopter pilot screwed up big time.
@JamesSmith-er2pn
@JamesSmith-er2pn 5 сағат бұрын
"The term "regional flight" keeps echoing in your mind. It’s a deliberate misdirection, a term that attempts to disguise the true nature of the flight. What’s even more disturbing is the lack of public acknowledgment-this is not a typical civilian tragedy. It feels as though the government or a higher authority is controlling the narrative, manipulating it to avoid scrutiny." --A Vision from the Crystal Ball.
@skyboy1956
@skyboy1956 5 сағат бұрын
no conspiracy
@donjo9776
@donjo9776 5 сағат бұрын
You must be a Trumper.
@tm8473
@tm8473 6 сағат бұрын
the ads-b database recorded data from that helicopter until the collision. This means the ads-b broadcasting was operative.
@charlesbrewer6552
@charlesbrewer6552 6 сағат бұрын
I am a retire Commercial pilot/ flight instructor from Australia. What a lot of BULLSHIT! The commercial jet was doing exactly what it was told to do. These aircraft are flying in CONTROLLED AIRSPACE! The military helicopter was flying visual flight rules (see and avoid). The helicopter was asked by the controller " do you have that aircraft in sight?", the helicopter answered that they did. The controller said "pass behind that aircraft"! Clearly the helicopter DID NOT have the aircraft insight. The two aircraft were on different frequencies, so the jet was totally unaware of the presence of the helicopter! The helicopter WAS aware of the jet! The jet was a 400 feet on final approach, totally focused on landing their aircraft and totally unaware of any potential conflict in CONTROLLED AIRSPACE! The arrogance of the current administration is reflected by the arrogance of these military pilots, flying in a VERY busy Controlled airspace. Apparently the "military" turn off their ADSB because they do want people to see where they are! What a great idea in the midst of one of the busiest airports in America while flying a course that conflicts with published instrument approaches. America is also in the midst of a pilot and controller shortage as an aftermath of the covid outbreak. There is a problem with the experience level of many controllers in the country. This is not THEIR fault. But let's just keep cutting government funding to these vital agencies. What the FUCK is wrong with basic common sense in America! This was caused by a lack of adequate funding of the basic infrastructure of providing funding in combination with the arrogance of the military, that the rules do not apply to them! But , Hey America. Whatever you do, DON'T tax the wealthy! Donald Trump the dictator, insurrectionist, criminal is the "Dear Leader"! Maybe he will save YOU? MAYBE NOT! I think NOT!
@francoisbouvier7861
@francoisbouvier7861 6 сағат бұрын
Thank you. You sound like an experienced and sensible voice of reason. There's definitely a lack of that across the board. Thank you, from Canada.
@Mexxx65
@Mexxx65 6 сағат бұрын
Why the hell are they on different frequencies??? Thats a PROBLEM in a nutshell right there!!!! For a military aircraft to "take" this many civilians.........is pathetic, Biden or Trump Govt.
@wickysmall8607
@wickysmall8607 6 сағат бұрын
Commercial pilots don't throw tantrums in the youtube comments section, they are rather calm and collected individuals... you're none of that 😂 Five Pinocchios for you "captain".
@stewartsmith1947
@stewartsmith1947 6 сағат бұрын
Too bad you have so much hate in your heart !
@charlesbrewer6552
@charlesbrewer6552 6 сағат бұрын
@@stewartsmith1947 NO hate here, just profound sadness! Just amazement of the total STUPIDITY of American just like YOU! Australians are American allies watching on in horror as you destroy your Constitution.
@anthonyshumake5488
@anthonyshumake5488 6 сағат бұрын
Helo clearly in the wrong
@MrPeabodyNYC
@MrPeabodyNYC 6 сағат бұрын
Who was this Helicopter pilot? Seems multiple protocols weren't followed to avoid this catastrophe.
@Challengerscatpack50
@Challengerscatpack50 6 сағат бұрын
If was anyone other than an izzylam or a d and e and i they would have already posted pics and complete background
@tascrphs
@tascrphs 6 сағат бұрын
The helicopter pilot is DEAD!! You think they enjoy being dead. We have all sorts of accidents. Auto, plane, train, etc... that's why we have the word accident in the dictionary. ...and that's why most of our Flight rules are written in blood... and unfortunately more will be.
@MAGASupremacy
@MAGASupremacy 6 сағат бұрын
DEI hire. Diversity kills, sadly.
@skyboy1956
@skyboy1956 5 сағат бұрын
what protocols would that be?
@sophieedel6324
@sophieedel6324 5 сағат бұрын
It's crazy that any information about the helicopter is being hidden from the public.
@georgedobler7490
@georgedobler7490 5 сағат бұрын
The chopper pilot caused this crash.
@HouseofTheRisingSun-i2k
@HouseofTheRisingSun-i2k 5 сағат бұрын
There is reporting that seems to blame the plane. I saw with my eyes (on the video loop of the crash) what appeared to be the helicopter made a beeline right towards the plane. It's currently incomprehensible.
@colleenbishop7387
@colleenbishop7387 5 сағат бұрын
Unfortunately l think it’s not going to be that complicated. My take is that one plane just took off and this AA plane was just about to land and the Blackhawk saw the one taking off and focus on that plane not realizing and losing visual of the landing plane.
@josephwoehlerii2855
@josephwoehlerii2855 6 сағат бұрын
The plane had the right of way, unfortunately we may never know why the military pilot did not see it that way, distracted flying? The chopper was crossing a dedicated restricted flight path and should have known the risk or potential for collision but it looks like everyone is missing that point!
@tjking1909
@tjking1909 6 сағат бұрын
An accident waiting to happen. What idiot would let helicopters transverse active runways in the dark of night.
@MathaGoram
@MathaGoram 5 сағат бұрын
Me no pilot; me no TC. But your question is precisely on the money!
@nineteen8026
@nineteen8026 5 сағат бұрын
DEI
@ricky1231
@ricky1231 5 сағат бұрын
@@nineteen8026 You are talking BS 💩💩💩💩
@wades9327
@wades9327 5 сағат бұрын
Woke idiots.
@wades9327
@wades9327 5 сағат бұрын
​@nineteen8026 Yep. Now been proven to be a DEI hire.
@davemitchell6281
@davemitchell6281 6 сағат бұрын
Why would the military forget about the flight path. How could this even happen in DC.
@Challengerscatpack50
@Challengerscatpack50 6 сағат бұрын
You know. Either someone is an izzylam or a D. E. I.
@Challengerscatpack50
@Challengerscatpack50 6 сағат бұрын
You know
@nineteen8026
@nineteen8026 5 сағат бұрын
DEI ?
@lukeknocks
@lukeknocks 5 сағат бұрын
@@nineteen8026 they ramped up black hawks copters by trumps request. If Trump wasn't president that black hawk would of been flying there. 100% TRUMPS FAULT
@marshallbowen8693
@marshallbowen8693 5 сағат бұрын
@@nineteen8026This is an irresponsible vicious and stupid statement. Are you a MAGA racist or just an American low-life?
@MeerkatADV
@MeerkatADV 5 сағат бұрын
The helicopter was 200ft above their designated altitude.
@alistairholmes3825
@alistairholmes3825 5 сағат бұрын
This is clearly a hit… to many coincidences for this to take place
@alekseyp7730
@alekseyp7730 6 сағат бұрын
Last time I heard helicopter was instructed to find airplane and get in line behind airplane and Pass
@ericgardner5548
@ericgardner5548 5 сағат бұрын
Why was the helicopter in the flight path for approach? It's ridiculous.
@nexpro6985
@nexpro6985 5 сағат бұрын
100% The fault of the helicopter crew. Be in no doubt. They were warned about the plane and told to pass behind. They failed to follow insructions. In addition they should almost certainly have been lower.
@thomasmcginnis3783
@thomasmcginnis3783 6 сағат бұрын
*WHERE IS JIM ACOSTA??*
@richardshultz6834
@richardshultz6834 6 сағат бұрын
After you learn what you are talking about you will under stand why this happened. With the rules in place in this class "B" air space, this was bound to happen sooner or later. This was a failure of the system.
@RichardBoyer-gj1vh
@RichardBoyer-gj1vh 6 сағат бұрын
Waste of time,,, the question is, WHY do they allow other flying object within the airport take off/Landing zone ! Disaster waiting to happen,,, point final They have to revise their protocols !
@ejay2075
@ejay2075 6 сағат бұрын
Same thing I said. Who's idea was it to allow military training exercise around planes coming in for landing!
@RichardBoyer-gj1vh
@RichardBoyer-gj1vh 6 сағат бұрын
@@ejay2075 They were playing with fire,,, and they are not the ones who got burned ! the 67 people did !
@tascrphs
@tascrphs 6 сағат бұрын
Do you live in the DMV... They've been flying planes and helicopters in and out of that area since the invention of choppers. One accident out perhaps 2 million+ flights... that's closer to absolute zero probability of an accident ever occurring. So with those sorts of stats, what should the government do? Move ALL the pentagon and all the critical military bases away from the White House and Congress. Driving is NOT an option when urgent matters are at stake. Yes, training is necessary - without training, be it day or night, we will have MORE of these accidents, not less.
@prabhki117
@prabhki117 5 сағат бұрын
Man that's so sad. My condolences to the families but damn 300 ft clearance on good days is nothing for such vehicles.
@ryanv2023
@ryanv2023 5 сағат бұрын
A simple instruction from ATC: “PAT25, traffic at your 11 o'clock, a CRJ” would have really helped instead of just: “PAT25, do you have the CRJ insight?”
@PeterPounders
@PeterPounders 5 сағат бұрын
ATC already told PAT25 that there was a flight on approach for 33. Even gave the altitude. I think that should have been enough for PAT25 to stay clear of that area.
@skyboy1956
@skyboy1956 5 сағат бұрын
ATC previously provided that information and was confirming the helicopter pilot was going to see-and-avoid the CRJ to which they replied affirmative.
@theophiluschimpdenearwicke9385
@theophiluschimpdenearwicke9385 5 сағат бұрын
PAT25 had previously reported the CRJ "in sight" and requested visual separation. The tower controller approved visual separation. When PAT25 didn't appear to de-conflict the tower asks again if traffic is in sight and to pass behind the CRJ. Unfortunately, PAT25 probably visually acquired a different aircarrier that was on final to Runway 1 and was focused on that traffic. Additionally, PAT25 was supposed to be at or below 200' on ROUTE 4....he was at 350'.
@ryanv2023
@ryanv2023 5 сағат бұрын
Yes but normally for such close proximity traffic, an additional bearing would be very helpful
@JuniorELima-hy6yx
@JuniorELima-hy6yx 6 сағат бұрын
A lot of questions might be answered by the black boxes, if released.
@artstrology
@artstrology 6 сағат бұрын
The military information will be classified. Routine training mission is the go to answer every time.
@Chzydawg
@Chzydawg 5 сағат бұрын
@@artstrology In the case of a purely military related incident, sure. In this case, no. Investigation will be carried out by the NTSB, and will be available publicly.
@artstrology
@artstrology 5 сағат бұрын
@@Chzydawg NTSB does not automatically have access to the information on that chopper. Even if they do, they could be heavily restricted as to what they can say publicly. This is another big reason military exercises or training should not be happening in civilian space. it's a slippery slope.
@planecrazy6039
@planecrazy6039 5 сағат бұрын
Why isn’t CNN airing President Trump’s press conference right now live? Because you can’t edit live broadcasts?
@Timhey0912
@Timhey0912 6 сағат бұрын
surprised that CNN chief executive Mark Thompson didn't "trump" this up before airing it. Guess he's leaving next??
@Lickyluckymushroom
@Lickyluckymushroom 6 сағат бұрын
It is 100% Trumps fault
@alvaroobregon4596
@alvaroobregon4596 6 сағат бұрын
Trump is trying to find a way to blame this on immigrants SAD
@FactsWireDaily1
@FactsWireDaily1 6 сағат бұрын
2:41 important question
@sevovevo3396
@sevovevo3396 5 сағат бұрын
This is scary. Aren't planes equipped to alarm (traffic-traffic) if they come close to one another. Did the alarms faulty or were just ignored
@Thurston-q6q
@Thurston-q6q 5 сағат бұрын
How on earth would the ATC allow this to happen? Its either ATCs fault or this was intentional.
@NeoDan-f2n
@NeoDan-f2n 5 сағат бұрын
Was there a spy on the flight?
@moonlightmelodrama
@moonlightmelodrama 5 сағат бұрын
Doesn't the audio record the tower instructing the helo to "land immediately" despite the fact the airliner appeared to be well into final approach? Speculation. Maybe the helo pilot was simply trying to do what he was asked to do.
@lalutte65
@lalutte65 5 сағат бұрын
Flying helicopters through a commercial air craft landing pattern that close to the runway just seems a receipt for disaster-plenty of blame, controller, helicopter pilots, faa regulation etc-but none of it for the commercial pilots
@swchri1264
@swchri1264 6 сағат бұрын
doesnt seem like cnn likes this guy having a billboard behind him . . wonder if they have him back
@Artnotforthesakeofart
@Artnotforthesakeofart 6 сағат бұрын
Lol
@HairHoFla
@HairHoFla 5 сағат бұрын
What surprised me was the jet coming in from Wichita ...used to be National had a 1000 mile range limit
@bauttiet.h.u.g.5900
@bauttiet.h.u.g.5900 6 сағат бұрын
Sad
@lakeguy65616
@lakeguy65616 6 сағат бұрын
the jet was on an instrument approach just short of the runway. I'm curious why ATC / tower would route / allow the helo near the approach end of a runway? I know the helo was tasked with maintaining visual separation but why even allow the helo near the end of the runway? seems to be allowing an unnecessary risk...
@DaddlerTheDalek
@DaddlerTheDalek 5 сағат бұрын
Just tragic...
@RichardMcLaren
@RichardMcLaren 5 сағат бұрын
Whether the Jet could see the helo is largely irrelevant. Rotor craft should yield for fixed wing craft, because they can alter their path quicker, and if necessary, hover. It's impossible to be certain from the video, but I think when ATC told the helo to pass behind the jet, he couldn't see the nav and landing lights of the jet that was coming in to land.....or couldn't differentiate between the plane lights and the city lights (only at 400' remember) but could see the plane that had just taken off, and thought that was the one he was meant to pass behind.
@michaelallen9294
@michaelallen9294 5 сағат бұрын
Hello, Col Leighton, from former troop from Berlin.
@Rick-wx4md
@Rick-wx4md 5 сағат бұрын
take off and landing is the most focused for pilots.
@dennismorris7573
@dennismorris7573 5 сағат бұрын
Just terrible this. Sad for all souls on board. May the FAA investigate and propose regulations and procedures that will prevent any such tragedies in the future.
@MikeOraBera
@MikeOraBera 5 сағат бұрын
Why are helicopters playing dodgeball in a commercial airport approach pattern?
@tymorgan1924
@tymorgan1924 5 сағат бұрын
Three set of eyes on a helicopter and they still tbone the airplane suicide
@perthyren601
@perthyren601 5 сағат бұрын
Were transponder active on the chopper?!
@Redmi-xu1yo
@Redmi-xu1yo 5 сағат бұрын
what is the chopper doin there 😲
@lovejetfuel4071
@lovejetfuel4071 5 сағат бұрын
ATC needs to start separating VFR traffic in congested airspace, not only in IFR conditions. I have never understood why they don't provide separation in VFR conditions, are they just relying on luck? That's not good enough
@Mexxx65
@Mexxx65 6 сағат бұрын
Commercial aircraft still use VHF????? I mean, I can't remember what year all our tvs were using VHF, its been UHF for ages now!!!!
@rreiter
@rreiter 5 сағат бұрын
ATC and the helicopter followed rules that allowed this chain of events. Allowing visual separation at night to crossing aircraft on short final with no guaranteed altitude deconfliction and this is what eventually happens.
@Uouttooo
@Uouttooo 6 сағат бұрын
Why the F was the helicopter dodging aircrafts left and right like Laura Croft dodging traps in a Tomb Raider movie. This is insane.
@docrobinson558
@docrobinson558 5 сағат бұрын
Watched for a minute before I realized this was someone trying to CREATE a "news" story out of nothing there . Then looked down to see "CNN" & turned it off instantly.
@Kevin-zz9nc
@Kevin-zz9nc 6 сағат бұрын
Pres Trump said it should have been avoided. Einstein award.
@williamroyer4669
@williamroyer4669 6 сағат бұрын
That's one of Donald's tricks. Always blame someone else 🙄
@lisasante254
@lisasante254 5 сағат бұрын
Now we have to listen to hours of his blame game every day, nightmares of his COVID failure days. Why do they keep him on for hours when he has nothing productive to say???? It’s all blame and fire blame and fire. Put it on a loop and play it on FOX, they eat it up!
@bruceroach436
@bruceroach436 6 сағат бұрын
Drones even have this
@stellarwind1946
@stellarwind1946 6 сағат бұрын
This is the last leg of the training for black hawk helicopter pilots - to dodge landing planes in the airspace of a busy airport while in total darkness.
@thorgodofhammers1556
@thorgodofhammers1556 6 сағат бұрын
Is it really?
@ejay2075
@ejay2075 6 сағат бұрын
Dumb! Who the hell made this part of the training. Train somewhere else not near commercial jets coming in for landing
@samuelhomer8885
@samuelhomer8885 6 сағат бұрын
This is not good someone's other than the pople that died will have to pay
@tascrphs
@tascrphs 6 сағат бұрын
@@ejay2075 you've got to do better spotting sarcasm and avoid responding as if it's a serious comment.
@johnhargrove7744
@johnhargrove7744 6 сағат бұрын
And your credentials are?...
@Loretta-s5x
@Loretta-s5x 6 сағат бұрын
A skating Russian couple was on board the plane.
@MYJEWISHLAMPSHADES
@MYJEWISHLAMPSHADES 6 сағат бұрын
You know the answer then.😅 You're thinking 😮
@lynnhubbard844
@lynnhubbard844 6 сағат бұрын
most all were coming back from a figure skating training camp in KS
@marylinthicum678
@marylinthicum678 6 сағат бұрын
The Russian couple were coaches. Also there were American ice skaters on the plane too.
@wades9327
@wades9327 5 сағат бұрын
At least they were vaccinated.
@AlanTheBest97
@AlanTheBest97 5 сағат бұрын
Im a pilot but I honestly think that any kind of VFR operations near big centers have no place in aviation nowadays aside from some kind of emergency. Many times during my training I have witnessed sketchy situations because of that.
@robg.8616
@robg.8616 6 сағат бұрын
No conspiracy theories PLEASE! RIP ALL THE VICTIMS!
@MYJEWISHLAMPSHADES
@MYJEWISHLAMPSHADES 6 сағат бұрын
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@MYJEWISHLAMPSHADES
@MYJEWISHLAMPSHADES 6 сағат бұрын
I don't do theories.
@artstrology
@artstrology 6 сағат бұрын
Many conspiracy are often found to be true later.
@connishmaude2036
@connishmaude2036 6 сағат бұрын
Why not? Most truth lie in the conspiracy theories, especially when things don't add up
@MYJEWISHLAMPSHADES
@MYJEWISHLAMPSHADES 5 сағат бұрын
@@artstrology MY THEORY LOL. IS FACT NOW. WHY WAIT TO BELIEVE? 🤣🇮🇱👃🇮🇱
@chesterwilberforce9832
@chesterwilberforce9832 6 сағат бұрын
Let the blame storming begin...
@aensti9077
@aensti9077 6 сағат бұрын
White dudes, definitely…
@mencken8
@mencken8 5 сағат бұрын
It’s a question or a rush to judgement? Hard to tell from this kind of reportage.
@obsideon1343
@obsideon1343 6 сағат бұрын
Which craft was in the wrong place?
@francoisbouvier7861
@francoisbouvier7861 6 сағат бұрын
Not sure that commercial jet could be in the wrong place. So what or who else could be in the wrong place?
@davemitchell6281
@davemitchell6281 6 сағат бұрын
military was.
@artstrology
@artstrology 6 сағат бұрын
The chopper for sure.
@markkutyni3337
@markkutyni3337 5 сағат бұрын
Flight rules !!!!!!!!!!!
@Favoured-p7d
@Favoured-p7d 5 сағат бұрын
Looks like suicide murder to me by helicopter pilot. May the souls of those who perished rest in peace
@TheNifster
@TheNifster 5 сағат бұрын
Bakari Sellers, a top CNN commentator, on Wednesday apologized and deleted a post blaming President Donald Trump for the horrific plane crash in Washington, DC.
@josephdebri8941
@josephdebri8941 5 сағат бұрын
Smells fishy to me.
@neilmccomsey9550
@neilmccomsey9550 5 сағат бұрын
Why have an AF Col from Intel? He doesn't know.
@a.michelle9289
@a.michelle9289 5 сағат бұрын
Could this be a TERRORIST ATTACK???
@MauricioGonzalezFilms
@MauricioGonzalezFilms 6 сағат бұрын
They hit under the 800ft mark 😮 I don’t think any maneuvering could be done at that altitude. Tragic accident.
@TheAccidentalViking
@TheAccidentalViking 6 сағат бұрын
The helicopter was supposed to be under the 200ft mark. They were told there was a plane and they identified it wrong. Maybe 'training' boys in deadly military toys should be done out of the commercial flight range.
@lynnhubbard844
@lynnhubbard844 6 сағат бұрын
400 ft they said
@artstrology
@artstrology 6 сағат бұрын
@@TheAccidentalViking Big time. There are way too many military flights in civilian airspace. been on that one for 2 decades.
@jaimeconley624
@jaimeconley624 5 сағат бұрын
Is it just a coincidence that last week Trump fired hundreds of FAA officials, the TSA head, and put a freeze on hiring of air traffic controllers.
@searchandsave142
@searchandsave142 6 сағат бұрын
It should never shut down
@johnnydawson7675
@johnnydawson7675 6 сағат бұрын
How long will it be until Trump blames it on Biden.
@Dslrepairpro
@Dslrepairpro 6 сағат бұрын
Well people are allready blaming trump
@notnek202
@notnek202 6 сағат бұрын
BIDEN DEI GONE BAD.
@davemitchell6281
@davemitchell6281 6 сағат бұрын
looks like you threw the first punch shut up.
@reeva5735
@reeva5735 6 сағат бұрын
It will be blamed on DEI
@scillyautomatic
@scillyautomatic 6 сағат бұрын
Not gonna happen.
@kentjones6813
@kentjones6813 5 сағат бұрын
FAA is forced to hire people with 'SEVERE HEALTH DISABILITIES" . That's heart warming. Wow, God help us all.
@lisasante254
@lisasante254 5 сағат бұрын
I doubt the enlisted pilot had severe disabilities. He appears to be at fault. Bozo.
@Siamak-l8j
@Siamak-l8j 5 сағат бұрын
Blame FAA only
@justinh2832
@justinh2832 5 сағат бұрын
We all know it was the fault of the helicopter pilot it's obvious from the video along with all other factors
@teresatrujillo4410
@teresatrujillo4410 5 сағат бұрын
May their souls rest in peace. So sad and feel bad for the passengers and their families.
@markuswilliams6939
@markuswilliams6939 5 сағат бұрын
I thought I seen a drone near the collision 💥
@Huongsokmach
@Huongsokmach 5 сағат бұрын
Tra F ic?
@justinh2832
@justinh2832 5 сағат бұрын
It's almost like the helicopter pilot locked onto the plane and just full sended look at the footage
@nick066hu
@nick066hu 5 сағат бұрын
Somebody knows, what is that luxury yacht doing in the middle of the search area? Has Coast Guard (or whoever should do a professional search and rescue) run out of fuel? or some billionaire wished for some excitement ?
@davesky538
@davesky538 6 сағат бұрын
Pilot error. Very sad.
@TimmyRue-bn3xe
@TimmyRue-bn3xe 5 сағат бұрын
Third time this mth the military.
@dianacarter3212
@dianacarter3212 5 сағат бұрын
Didnt matter if the plane saw it! Couldnt do anything! The chopper was the only one the could have dropped or slowed or veered. I heard they only had seconds notice!
@CarlosRoberto-kf7ik
@CarlosRoberto-kf7ik 5 сағат бұрын
The copter pilot was suicide. It's not an accident.
@josfur1977
@josfur1977 6 сағат бұрын
even if some survived the initial crash they ended up drowning.. chilling stuff... the panic on these people....
@lodelacruz2055
@lodelacruz2055 5 сағат бұрын
It makes no sense at all. Something doesn’t add up!! Bad feeling 😢
@pierrelepage3544
@pierrelepage3544 5 сағат бұрын
According to the FAA Circular Advisory AC No: 20-151B Page 10 it says All TCAS II aural alerts must be inhibited below 400 ft AGL while descending and inhibited below 600 ft AGL while climbing.
@deeyung816
@deeyung816 5 сағат бұрын
Were these DEI pilots asking for Elon?🧐
@markrinella49
@markrinella49 5 сағат бұрын
Let me guess...sad as it is...President Trumps fault...?
@SunshineJenkins
@SunshineJenkins 6 сағат бұрын
Its good to see Sara, I've been thinking about her. Rip to the victims 🙏🏽
@Lawrence901Memphis
@Lawrence901Memphis 5 сағат бұрын
Why are your comments along with NBC turned off on the confirmation hearings today? Why so much sensorship and oppression of opinions with your views?
@AmSuperBlessed
@AmSuperBlessed 5 сағат бұрын
Trump DEI and Hegzeth.Purging qualified and experienced staff and hiring based on hate and racism is going to be disastrous. My heart is broken for the lives list and their loved one.
@scottgray493
@scottgray493 6 сағат бұрын
Has Trump offered a commemorative coin yet for his courage in this moment of history?
@GT-xw8cm
@GT-xw8cm 5 сағат бұрын
They all got their momentS of attention,, parading their ugly mugs in front of the camera, taking the attention away from the victims, and the senate confirmation hearings
@C_ch_real
@C_ch_real 5 сағат бұрын
You’re disgusting. 🤢. Exactly why the left lost and will continue to loose.
@tamhiker1
@tamhiker1 5 сағат бұрын
Absolutely no reason why these two aircraft needed to be that close together - at that time of night. 100% an ATC error.
@donjo9776
@donjo9776 5 сағат бұрын
Wrong.
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