10 Heroes That are Secretly BROKEN in Season 1 (underrated) | DPS, Tanks, Supports - Marvel Rivals

[@coach_mills]

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[@CheckersMcGavern]

A good Spiderman will absolutely wreck me on Squirrel Girl. I don't know what was in the water tonight, but I ran into like 4 really good Spiderman players in a row. They'd zoom in, smack me with a combo, zoom around, tag me once and I'd be dead. It's so damn frustrating trying to hit a target that moves around as quickly as he does.

[@jellysandjamz250]

If everyone is broken, no one is broken.

[@JuanRodriguez-kp4jd]

Idk man that moon knight ult need a second more warning or something lol

[@JaJagimpjelterosso]

Syndrome could happen. Disney owned.

[@jellysandjamz250]

@@JuanRodriguez-kp4jd I agree with that

[@Shinx510]

@@JuanRodriguez-kp4jdfr, I swear the ult hits before his voice line is even finished

[@FazeParticles]

people love to complain. i dare them to quit this game. the gaming industry sucks rn. there's no where for them to go unless it's back to apex, fortnite, Cod or Valorant. mid or down right stale and boring. now, horde shooters are doing well but i presume that's exempt from these complainers.

[@schwolmart]

14:37 70 seconds of being allergic to shift and E lol

[@killerbo_mlg1141]

Groot truly is an amazing hero to carry with. I started playing him in peak diamond 3 because hulk just isn’t allowed anymore and I have won 11 of the 12 games I played. I think I lost the second game and after that I went all the way to grandmaster without losing a single game. The biggest tip I would have for aspiring Groot mains would be to learn when and how to use 2 grass walls to wall off the enemy tanks, using a single wall is often quite useless. Another good tip would be to avoid using stonewall to wall of enemies, although it has more hp than a grass wall it will often get destroyed quickly. It would be more valuable to place it somewhere where the enemy can’t destroy it to get 100% uptime on the bonus hp. Of course there are situations where these tips don’t apply, but it is handy to keep these things in mind.

[@sesshonuyasha]

Do you try to spam spore bomb off cooldown or hold ?

[@killerbo_mlg1141]

@sesshonuyasha Spam it. I only keep it if I am about to use my ult.

[@Americanheld]

Great tips, totally agree as someone who has been maining groot recently

[@RealEyesRealizeRealLiez]

As in wall the enemy tanks away from their team with 2 small walls covering each other to give the walls doubles strength so enemy team can't destroy it quickly?

[@killerbo_mlg1141]

@@RealEyesRealizeRealLiez nope. I mean it as in when you place a wall you hold the place button and move your camera to the left or right to place 2 walls next to eachother. It Blocks more of the enemy line of sight and makes it harder for the tank to just walk backwards past the wall.

[@ddd09ish1]

Peni has so many wierd quirks Like if you say any of her abilities out loud on what the floor vs the cieling is, the ceiling would get her banned every time "Can one shot anyone with 300 hp or less every 12 seconds, occasionally killing multiple characters. With the option to do up to 1600 damage in one burst " On ANOTHER ABILITY deals 400 damage burst every 10 seconds, followed by 80 dps in a large and extendable area On ANOTHER ability she has a 1 second stun on a 3 secon cooldown, able to do 20 seconds of stun per minute Like, low key in any other game she would be an auto ban just on the CHANCE that someone might be good at her. Its actually impressive that the dev team has managed to make her feel underpowered if you misplay her

[@12schlange53]

The main thing that makes her feel underpowerd when not utilized correctly is, that she can´t really take space against other tanks

[@liesdamnlies3372]

@@12schlange53 Pretty much why you never solo tank as Peni.

[@Koifin3]

The biggest thing that makes her underpowered is that she has no way to mitigate any damage and the supports are left with their pants down

[@donkarnage6986]

Peni sucks, and when people pick her, you know we ind for a hard time.. She is weak and dosnt suppport, she is even worse than scarlet iron fist or squrril girl.. Pls dont pick her

[@12schlange53]

@ shes pretty strong if the player knows what hes doing but please keep spreading this so she gets buffs

[@nintandao64]

The clip of invis woman ignoring punisher and letting him die during his ultimate made me die a little inside

[@Miryemo]

the punisher’s reply right after too was just 👌

[@Peter-yo2wm]

Ngl that Loki gameplay has be believing that I do actually belong in GM1

[@peterstedman6140]

Lmao

[@vanderlin4966]

Loki it literally the game of staying alive and making the correct choices at the right time

[@RealEyesRealizeRealLiez]

​@@vanderlin4966 That is literally every hero

[@Tom-vx7qh]

​@@RealEyesRealizeRealLiezthey should add a character whose gameplan is dying and making the incorrect choices (Jean Grey?)

[@kostyy5029]

What rank what that loki?

[@dexterk.6344]

Dude, pleeeeaaase dont tell everyone to pickup MK... Been playing with soooo many terrible MK's lately... even though his kit is pretty brainless, you still gotta know your angles and positioning with him which isnt as simple. You also need to be able to aim. Anyone reading this if youre going 1-10 with 10% accuracy get tf off MK smh.

[@Midnightchezpuf]

Literal waste of a dps in most of games. If the other team has a brain they will contest MK hard af and ruin anything you had planned. A good MK can def haunt you tho.

[@frozenvodka]

every noob play mk because they suck at the game and can only shoot the ground

[@Moreno4HEIZMAN]

MK was my first main and I hit Lord with him rather quickly. Storm is my current main and I’ve tried to go back mid game and I feel like I almost forgot how to use him lol. Everyone always talks smack about how brainless he is to play but they’re always the ones who won’t play him. If you you can’t hit your headshots and take out 2-3 squishies W/O ankh then you’re not outputting to his full dmg potential. Imo, that tells me there’s is a high skill gap which would have to be opposite of “brainless” , no? 😅

[@frozenvodka]

@Moreno4HEIZMAN cope

[@FazeParticles]

noobs should stick with Punisher and hop off MK.

[@Kyotosomo]

Just took Squirrel Girl from Plat 1 to GM 3 in one night yesterday with a 70% winrate, if you figure out how to consistently land her shots (don't hold left click, take the time to aim each shot predicting where they're heading THEN click) she's ridiculously oppressive, pumping out over 1000 damage every 8 seconds heavily pressuring tanks and erasing squishes. If there's chokes you can pump that kind of damage from a super safe distance, if the area is wide open you can get up in their face to ensure you can still land most your shots (2-3 will eliminate any squishy in 2-3 seconds). What's also great is you can save your net (stun) for anytime an enemy dives your team and it's usually a guaranteed elimination (if it's a tank I use my refresh to double net them). Her ultimate is excellent now too yet everybody still underestimates it so you can usually get 3-4 eliminations because nobody bothers to shoot it or counter ult. Only time she doesn't work for me is if the enemy team has a great Spiderman, Psylocke, or flying hero and I can't rely on my other DPS to keep them in check. Not that you can't still eliminate these heroes, but it requires so much additional focus that you're much better off just swapping to something that'll provide much easier value against them.

[@jamielynn2585]

All solid points about squirrel girl. I never really play as her, but being on the receiving end of an accurate squirrel girl is pretty damn painful if you can’t close the distance. Shes super good with a skilled player.

[@akuladoctor7355]

My favorite tactic with peni is putting the trap on the health pickups. Most peopole goes there when they are low on health, and when they do they die. It is exceptionally great against divers who are constantly out of position for healing and rely on their insane movement to get the health packs instead. For moon knight the more closer the enemy stands the stronger he is. Triple support usually stand together, and that literally multiplies his damage, and ult charge. It is not really about the composition, but more like positioning. Many dps tries to move around, go flank, or dive. Moon knight is weakest against these. But when enemy is standing in one bunch, then no matter what they are he is a beast.

[@dusk173]

Maybe it’s different on pc or diamond and above or my aim is just not accurate enough yet but, as a Mantis main myself, I wouldn’t say that she’s broken; at least not when compared to most of the other options. Even when i get my sleep off, most of the time it’s somewhere on the battlefield and the enemy wakes up immediately because they take damage or they play Magik and it doesn’t matter because they’ll outmaneuver me regardless without my teammate’s constant assistance. Mantis has multiple legitimate counters such as Black Panther, Magik, Groot, Moonkight, etc; and is only really effective on specific team comps in my experience. Any time I get a Jeff or a Loki on my team and there isn’t a third S tier healer to carry the load I just can’t do enough healing and have learned to play one of the other S tier supports in those situations because Luna is not only faster but heals more and can freeze opponents like Mantis can sleep them; plus her ult lasts longer. The only reason I can agree on that makes Mantis somewhat underrated is her damage boost and multipurpose ultimate’s potential. Otherwise, your aim MUST be exceptionally accurate or you’re only ever going to be a liability as the chip damage you get without nailing consistent headshots just isn’t substantial enough against anything besides low health targets that aren’t getting pocket healed which is rare in this meta. If I’m being completely honest, despite practicing aim 100 times more with Mantis, I’ve noticed that I win more often than not when I play as Luna. I have a feeling things are different once Luna or Cloak & Dagger are banned in high elo, but for every other rank Mantis is just an A tier in my opinion. I’ll probably get flamed for saying this but it’s my honest assessment based on my personal experience (especially in platinum rank). Edit: just a friendly reminder that I am exclusively a console player, so for all I know things could be entirely different on pc).

[@riddhimanpaul6955]

I'm a mantis main and cannot agree more. Luckily mantis is like the hardest support to play, so if you master her, playing other supports (except Loki) is easy and skills are transferable.

[@auricauric8150]

Currently mid plat and started to slow down on climb due to bad aim. Mantis is s tier with a tier aim.

[@Shinx510]

I'm an exclusively PC player and 100% the game is totally different for "aim dependent" characters. Even traditionally "bad aimers" on PC are good enough to still melt you on high dmg characters. On PC generally the characters that are very aim dependent are at least 1 tier higher than on console. You also have to factor in higher frame/refresh rates means it's easier to track/flick.

[@luckyducky9669]

i have the most hours on her out of any character and im gm 3 and if you aren't hitting headshots on her consistently i don't think she's worth it. i havent liked playing her as much as last season as well not as fun

[@lonniegerhardt3626]

When you started talking about my girl Penny hands up in the air cheering pump fisting finally she gets some recognition She deserves finally people start putting some respect on her name. Because I'm one of those players that demands it. I'll shut down anybody area denial to the max.. she's the best she's so fun I kept hearing you can't solo tank with Penny damn right you can. You're the man Love all your videos awesome content see you in the next video

[@liesdamnlies3372]

You can…but you probably shouldn’t.

[@CeezusWalks]

@@liesdamnlies3372yeah as a Peni main I’m not gonna lie sometimes you have to be perfect as a solo tank (at least when you’re solo queueing) but she’s elite when defending a point and shutting down/delaying people’s value and ults with competent teammates mostly

[@edwardbersin3100]

Right at the end of your hero 1 explanation you said there's certain maps SG is good on, I agree. Could you make a map guide/s going over best team comps, synergies, and bad ones?

[@WileECoyoteYM]

Never heard of flank Jeff I guess

[@bigshaggy6742]

I'm a Squirrel Girl main, and I would argue that her problems are more matchup dependent than map dependent. There are some maps where she can struggle a bit unless she gets a bit more creative (i.e. Odin's Archive, Warrior Falls), but good positioning can solve a lot of those problems. Her main problem is with either divers or flying characters. Iron Man and Storm are definitely her worst matchups in my opinon. They have three axes of directional movement, so from a distance they're practically impossible to hit. If they start focusing you, you have to land perfect shots or die (easier said than done). Divers and autolock characters can kinda just walk you down if you're not careful. Spider-Man and BP can one-shot you for free unless you land a perfect trap, as well as Star-Lord and Magik. Honorable mention to Scarlet Witch and C&D, whose autolock primaries and levitating vanishes make them easier characters than Squirrel Girl. Honorable mention to Captain America and Iron Fist, who can dive you and pull out shield as soon as you wind up a trap. It is possible to land shots on all these characters, but I think that reflects more on your mechanical skill than on Squirrel Girl as a character. That being said, she is an amazing counter against Peni and Punisher. Squirrel Girl does have the gift of applying constant pressure from a distance, which means Peni's nest and Punisher's turret can get shut down very quickly. I'm a Reed secondary right now, so it's nice having someone who can...play the game against these characters.

[@jacobcoates7987]

I feel like squirrel girl is the best character for clearing the stuff ppl spawn on the map. Peni nest, groot walls, namor turrets. Also the arc on her main fire, as subtle as it is, can let you hit punisher on his turret from cover.

[@UltraMagnux]

Can we get a console tips video please

[@coach_mills]

Who's the best console player?

[@UltraMagnux]

@@coach_mills I think @whokoa or @Hcpful are both in the top 500 players.

[@AlexAlex-ng9ur]

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[@Koifin3]

@@coach_millsfuck if I know lmfao nobody pays attention to console

[@sheyrd7778]

@@coach_mills His rank score is tops among all players currently.

[@MrKrytikol]

Loki totem actually protects against Moon Knight ult. Found out in ranked just a little while ago. Saved me because I was backed in a corner

[@helamananderson3992]

Agree on Thor the problem is my team NEVER gives me a magneto or strange to work with once they see “we already have a tank” it’s exhausting.

[@brian9829]

The most underrated hero of all is jeff imo. He’s not ideal in 222, but in a triple support? give him a chance to play aggressive, taking off angles, and annoy the hell out of their backline. The pressure from jeff is insane because he can’t really die if you are good enough with him. The best part is? He completely shuts down a support ult. Support ult make the team bunch making for a juicy ult target. The only perfect counter to him would be thor ultimate. In gm1, the character that annoys me the most is a good jeff. I can deal with bp, magik, spidey, but a good jeff? no hero in the game outsustain him in a 1v1.

[@ThorFraschetti]

Loki is only meant to be played in a three support comp by 95% of Loki players. Most Loki can’t play him and throw rank with him.

[@yayofuego]

Who else can counter groot as effectively as Wolverine? With Wolverine I’m able to shut down magik who tries to one shot my healers tho

[@kmurphy0620]

Peni Parker from my experience is the character who looks like she was built to be truly be an anti-dive. How well she does it creates a lot of problems for people.

[@carpetworms_]

Sending this to the homies cuz they don’t appreciate how much work my invisible woman is putting in

[@zipy4900]

Invisible Women is not secretly broken, she’s always been incredibly strong. Most OP healer only one that compares is C&D

[@younglegend050]

Factor would be such a nice sponsor, congrats man

[@showtimekid7749]

Everybody is broken in the right hands. That being said, everyone is bad in the right hands

[@Hunter-qq3xn]

The DPS players need to understand more damage is bad. You want to have a high amount of elims and final hits dealing the lowest damage possible.

[@kallmeej9106]

Not true at all times.

[@Hunter-qq3xn]

@@kallmeej9106 elaborate

[@YourFaveFireMan]

No that just means they have good healers on the other side. You can’t beat that all the time. That just means your doing your job but the healers on the other teams is doing good as well. When I notice the other teams have great healers as a wolverine main I take my attention away from tanks and go after the supports which tends to work. Even if I get jumped and end up losing the fight I take their attention away from healing and give my team the opportunity to take advantage.

[@Hunter-qq3xn]

@ wolverine is a brain dead character who is supposed to focus tanks. Any other dps knows to go after the supports as priority. I don’t understand how anything you said has anything to do with what I said

[@Hunter-qq3xn]

@ wolverine is a brain dead character who is supposed to focus tanks. Any other dps knows to go after the supports as priority. I don’t understand how anything you said has anything to do with what I said

[@lopezjdamian]

Can you do a video on every heroes melee? There's so many unique melees and different break points for different heroes with some having utility. Some heroes take 7 melees, some 8 and some 9 to kill a foe. Then there's Groot and Moonknight who have melees that knock up an opponent and different heroes have different consecutive melee speeds

[@xghost7167]

I say my problem with Loki is when Im trying to use my ult on a support then someone just gets in my way and Winter solders when he ults that's it

[@ThorFraschetti]

Loki who play into Bucky are throwing. You needed to swap.

[@xghost7167]

@ThorFraschetti yeah thats what I do when I see a Bucky I switch immediately when I first played Loki I didn't know, but the more I played him thats why I switch when I see a Bucky

[@Gg-ox8mk]

​@ThorFraschetti nah if you know how to play him you can play against both him AND moonknight in the same team I've done it a lot you just have to position your clones well

[@lukecartwright8266]

My boy Adam isn’t here. And that’s completely right lol I meshed with the worst character in the game. Gonna die in plat.

[@docfortune]

I love playing as Loki, but I'm at this point where if my team doesn't have Dr. Strange or Luna Snow, I need to pick one of them or I'm throwing the game in hero select.

[@alexikosmas]

Dumbest opinion I’ve heard in this game so far

[@docfortune]

@alexikosmas You should listen to yourself talk, I'm sure you'll hear dumber.

[@Anxiety_Asylum]

loki is way better than luna. she’s so overrated

[@asharrav]

what?

[@BugRaiser]

I got Lord with Peni Parker and I watched all of CringeAlarms videos and RocketOTP’s videos on Peni hood stuff.

[@toddryan668]

Uhh, Idt squirrel girl is a slept on character. She’s just such a bae level noob character that can sit way in the back and spam primary and do dumb damage without having to attempt to aim. Most high level competitive minds like more skill based characters

[@Greasy_mint]

I definitely agree with the tips for Bucky’s ult. I always wait until I can get an almost guaranteed kill and hopefully hit one more person. You don’t want to use it at the wrong time because it puts you at a high risk of dying. Also, “baiting out” support ults with Bucky is never worth it bc you will almost always die, so you’re just giving net negative value to your team. Ideally, I try to use it to force staggers and then stomp them back into spawn.

[@sylas3265]

He listed Thor, Magik, and BP that Penny just trashes on and I just won a game without giving the enemies a single tick by using my girl and her spider. Triple support against us as well, it was a nightmare, but the Magik decided chasing supports into a possible minefield i kept refilling was the best option. Although I had to face tank some strikes to guarantee a stun, it won the game and I'm proud of it!

[@jamielynn2585]

Penny is always such a huge help on domination matches. I am a support and will always protecc the spider tank out of knowing how useful those mines are.

[@ulrich101]

I don’t understand how people can say peni isn’t a great character. In a game all about taking space Peni is the best at denying that

[@Buisbeza]

What eank are you?

[@itman9000]

@@Buisbeza I’m GM and Peni still is played very often

[@moredac2881]

I do feel like it’s disappointing that the only vanguards that can solo tank are strange, magneto, and groot.

[@nwalk33]

mantis isnt much weaker but other healers just keep up their team better. i would like it if they gave her maybe just one more charge

[@hordekiller420]

the number one tip for Moon Knight is to do your ult then pop your Anhk in the middle then primary alt primary and half the team is gone

[@Bazzlieo]

stop telling people about squirrel girl i like being the only person in my lobbies picking her lol

[@indogindiandegenerates]

cry bout it, the pressure is real

[@stevensosebee7452]

She is my most hated character I'd rather go against anything else

[@daboogiemaan323]

Everyone literally always picks SG lol

[@IslandboyWes]

What kinda lobbies you in?? Plat and diamond shes in like every game

[@JezebelIsHongry]

in comics lore it’s like a joke that squirrel girl is OP she beats the most powerful marvel villains and god level beings off panel

[@HollowFire386]

Calling Bucky underrated is absurd he has the highest duelist pick rate but a pretty sizable chunk 😂

[@ds2sofs]

That Magik take was cap, the reason why her winrate is so inflated is because she makes strong characters already strong with her team up

[@dirtmouthstreams]

Squirrel Girl being the first hero discussed...my work here is done >:D ((glad smart people are picking up on this and saying it now because i've been screaming it since season 0))

[@ZioZs_Builds]

Invisible girl healing her teammates who are full health but not the punisher right next to her trying to ult is a crime

[@Reign_sP]

I've been playing a lot of Squirrel Girl and have found most success on Klyntar. The first choke and narrow lanes are a haven for her left click and Squirrel Tsunami.

[@CrezonaQ]

Your invisible woman gameplay makes my brain hurt

[@Crimsontears83]

Great video with a lot of good points. People unfortunately want their character to carry them so if a character can't one shot or be immortal for a long time then they're "trash". It's nice to remember that if you know a character and use them right then you can do well.

[@SirDrakee-pg5hp]

Y’a as à lord squirrel I’d say if you are good at predicting and pre firing then she can be used at all times, every game I play as her, open map or not I’m consistently hitting my shots most of the time, a good trick I use is to aim at the floor and make it bounce and explode on them

[@ryker5722]

I don't think Magik is inherently broken, I think people that play Magik are just good players Fact checked by a real Magik onetrick

[@buckhunt6832]

Do you always play her though? I feel like some games she doesn't really have a place, like if we're defending and they have a Namor and a Peni, it's pretty hard to find value, no?

[@NoYes-uq2tz]

​@@buckhunt6832 yeah i think its time to switch at that point if your team isnt destroying nests/squids

[@Sntra101]

She’s the best diver and in 3 healer meta she destroys s

[@JeminiThaBard]

​​@@buckhunt6832I play Magik mostly. She always has a place , if you are using her full kit. She has defensive moves with her demon. I disagree with the video that she can just one shot. That means you have mastered her combos to one shot. Most people cant or wont put that time in. But I do agree she need a team close by, and not many people can counter her except another Magik. She is a glass cannon. Invest some time to get gud with her.

[@NoodleTactics]

​@@JeminiThaBardI agree that she's way more versatile than just a one-shot flanker. Magik is rlly good at strengthening the frontline and bullying tanks with her own tankiness and demons. She also hits through shields

[@jonathansuarez3832]

Solo qued to diamond as mainly Thor (strange when no one wants to tank with me). He’s a beast!

[@Rizz3n]

Thank god Moon Knight's ult got fixed now lol

[@sekmek5724]

It is insane that rocket raccoon isn't here

[@SlickCookie]

would a tank duo of Hulk and Thor be a good idea for comp games? (I surprising was really good with Thor the first time I played him and now thinking about fully commit to play him. and my friend is a Hulk main)

[@juliokazuki5185]

Anyone else find it funny when people say characters with a 55% win ratio are winning a lot? Bro she`s literally on a win 1 lose 1 situation.

[@richardmenz3257]

Rumor has it cap getting a dmg buff is so I wonder how triple tank will work. 2 dice tank in Thor + cap + 1Anker tank + anti dive dps + 2 healers would work.

[@okasagan]

So I've tried to look up info on it, but no one explains what it means? What are the symbols at the top center of the screen next to the percentage of capped. I think it's showing which is team is up or down a player? It shows little triangle shaped people, like is this showing how many are dead or alive on both teams? Further, is it showing how many are alive or dead on my specific team?

[@kami3449]

Magiks combos are easy af, everyone can do it. What makes her harder to play and the reason you either dont see her or when you do they aren't doing anything special is because she has multiple roles within her playstyle, that and people dont know how to manage her cooldowns and positioning. Some people dont know when they should be diving the backline or when they should be on the frontline helping the tank they only do one or the other and typically dont do great at either position. Any character that relies on position/cooldown management/and overall game sense typically isnt played well by the general audience. Psylocke is kind of the same way. The only difference is she has way more get outs so even when youre doing terrible on her you're normally dying less than a Magik would so she feels more forgiving and why you see more Psylockes even though both their playstyles have more similarities than differences.

[@kyster0495]

I have a 80% win rate as squirrel girl and I'm diamond 2. She's carried me so hard. And I agree she is very broken.

[@j6hoadley]

I think people need to stop putting so much steak into wind rates and pick rates. A hero that has a high wind rate does not mean that they are viable. It typically means they have a low pick rate and that they’re being used by people who are pretty good at the game. Generally, the higher the pick rate the closer to 50% win rate you’re gonna get one of the highest factors in a win rate is pick rate. More people need to look at team compositions and synergies when deciding which hero to pick not win rates. If if more creators made more videos on what heroes work best together( and I’m not referring to the ones who get special power ups activated) you will greatly increase your win rate.

[@JakeReehl]

Magik “She’s not gonna fight anybody for like an hour or something like Iron-Fist”… As a Cap main, literally feels like I’m hitting with a pillow when dueling people. Decided to learn Thor because he can actually get kills consistently. I’ll bring out Cap if someone else locks Cap tho cuz that’s the only time Cap can do anything unfortunately

[@liesdamnlies3372]

You bring out Cap of someone else locks Cap? O.o

[@Hirosanman]

I got GM playing mostly magik, but I spent half of that time in the practice range working on combos 😬😅

[@jungshin87]

Mantis and winter are the best rn for solo q. Loki also massive underrated

[@kostyy5029]

Some of these squirrel girls need help. I played with one the other day with 6 final hits and 30k damage. Felt like she was feeding the support ults

[@johnryan3622]

Magik is “the best dps in this meta.” Did I just hear that right? In a world where wolverine exists? Huh…

[@douglasjenes2147]

Spiderman and magik are a part of my cape as moon night smh lol

[@sydfieldmasmafua4888]

Groot is the best Tank imo as a Mr Fantastic main he makes my job a Breeze with those Walls

[@slapit2682]

My squirrel girl demolishes 3 supp meta 🤫

[@nateneal9847]

Squirrel girl got me to GM 3, namor helped a bit too tho

[@sainage1]

You forgot Black Widow

[@omega6325]

Bucks so crazy he can cancel c and d ult

[@brunomarzipan7894]

Good video. Suggesting MK or Bucky is secretly broken made me laugh though. I see them all the time. It aint a secret. I do really love Groot, Thor, and Invis Woman on the list though. See way fewer of them and they are usually pretty bad. I play Thor a ton (semi main) and he is really slept on as far as playing well.

[@Mr.Lobban]

What makes it a secret? Alot of the characters are quite viable

[@scoobynicker]

Skimmed, didn't see Scarlet Witch, reported, blocked, and didn't watch.

[@papat-bone6474]

You can't say moon knight is underrated bro! Hes in every lobby low to high rank

[@querellparham4331]

As a SQG main the comments I hear b4 the match starts vs the end of the game lol .. diamond lobbies “ no sg plz…. And then switch up At the end of the game and also groot walls are great 4 her too if you’re playing on a open map

[@ThorFraschetti]

You do understand how 70% is SG are super bad and always die. SG is one of the easiest heroes to farm as a duelist outside moonknight. Is like Jeff and Loki 95% is players that main those two are super bad and throw games

[@bigchiefcxlvi7292]

16:20 I'd let Invisible Woman punish me 🥴🥴

[@codysorenson4298]

The switch up with peni is hilarious. She's mid and now your saying she's good. Already knew she was very good

[@Nuinwing]

Been so many characters that folks a month or so ago were claiming are total trash and now those very same characters are considered top tier, like Hulk, Wolverine and Rocket to name a few and Peni is in the same position, just took people longer to learn just how good she is.

[@metaknightmare1234]

8:28 okay the key word here is "top level" lmao. Do I think good Peni Parkers get a lot of value in a game? Sure. Do I believe that the Peni on *my* team, in silver, gold, plat, diamond, even GM etc, is going to be *that* "top level" Peni who actually pushes her kit to the limit to get that value to the team? Absolutely not lmao. In my experience, they're just going to stand there as a giant ult battery and feed and then die. Do they ever use their mobility? No. Do they ever setup traps to stop flankers and shut down melee? No. Do they use their self heal webs to sustain themselves instead of being out of position and relying on healers to pocket them 24/7 and take resources away from everyone else on the team? No. Do they use their stun to shut down ults and enemy movement? Sometimes, maybe. Do they position their nests and mines to shut down black panthers and magiks and other flankers/assassins to help your backline? No. Peni has value and I do believe that. But the average Peni I see on my team? Lmao absolutely not. People play her like ass and I hate to see her. But hey be the difference you wanna see in the world, but especially if you're stuck solo tanking I'd recommend basically anyone else if you want to carry games.

[@lucaswilliams7280]

Peni doesn't need to play anything like a top level player to get by in our metal rank games. Her win rates are great in all ranks and that matches my own experience. In platinum people rarely destroy her shift and a lot of teams don't really take advantage of how vulnerable she is. If anything, she's a bit of a pubstomper.

[@metaknightmare1234]

@lucaswilliams7280 sure but if the goal is to have a carry hero to climb with, there are so many other options that will have better long term investment value than peni unless you just really love her and and how she plays. You could say the same thing with scarlet witch where you can use her and get out the metal ranks using her pretty easily, but why do that when she falls off the higher you go? Same with peni, if you're playing an average peni, sure you can stomp in easier ranks cuz no one counters you. But if you're going to fall off the higher you climb unless you really invest into getting super super good with a mid tier hero, why not pick up someone else you enjoy more with more potential that lasts into higher ranks? My point is that unless you just love peni there's no reason to pick her up to "carry" vs any other hero who can do it now easily and effectively and can continue with that effectiveness as you climb. There's a reason why in top 500 and celestial there are dozens and dozens of stranges, magnetos, hulks, etc, but only a handful peni Parkers, and it's because unless you're just super cracked at her it's just not worth using her over others that can get similar results for less work.

[@lucaswilliams7280]

@metaknightmare1234 it just depends on how high you expect to claim. Peni does fall off at high GM but below that she actually does very well. I've played these games for years and I top out at Diamond. There's just no curing tunnel vision I guess. For people like me(most people) there's no reason to stress about top 500. She stays good well beyond what will be the entirety of most people's experience.

[@papat-bone6474]

Wow you wrote that much for no one to read 😂

[@itman9000]

She has great win rates everywhere… pure facts discredit whatever PTSD you have from those silver lobbies 😂

[@The_Jragon]

All of these are not secret S-tier, they are S-tier. Bwfore no one picked them in season 0 cause they were either ok or required a LOT of skill. Speaking of skill. I do not care what anyone says bucky NEEDS a nerf. As soon as he lands one ability I am dead. He gets overshield on his abilities, hits harder than Hela, has displacement, has debuffs, and a Ultimate that lowers total hp...this is disgusting. All I have ever fought are Bucky every game. I am getting sick and tired of seeing him. Edit: A simple fix in my opinion is to just get rid of the over shield.

[@I_Rize]

W LIST😉🔥🔥

[@buckhunt6832]

I play magic but i find it hard to get value without the right team comp, or if the enemy team has a comp that shuts me down. Hoping the rest of this video helps but if anyone has better advice than "Git Gud" id appreciate it

[@JeminiThaBard]

I play Magik mostly. Getting value with her is about applying pressure to back lines when it's safe to-do so. You should be constantly be hitting and retreating to a health pack or your team healer. Its ok to die alot if you are getting back quickly and still setting up team to push more. Backlines you can take out healers carefully. side allys are your friend. Good luck she isn't easy. She is a glass cannon.

[@Ziggyvu]

Tbh I hope your not a magick that just does side quests the whole time and don’t fight with the team

[@Cj-mo6up]

Without mag or strange I feel like it’s better to just not use her even tho she’s my main. I’ve played her into penny and namor comps with success, but with a 6 stack to help kill nests and squids so that I can apply pressure

[@NoodleTactics]

I'll give you some very good advice from someone who carries games as magik in gm rn. If you have a solo tank, help your frontline. If you have two tanks, destroy their backline. If you only have a solo tank then they will probably just get walked on if you're not helping them. Magik is extremely good at applying pressure to the frontline through placing demons on chokes and spamming shield tanks through their shields with her primary. Magik's strength is that she's flexible enough to both fortify the frontline and assasinate the enemy backline with one shot combos

[@Ichigo-141]

Currently celestial 2 with most of my hours on magik, idk how you play but most people like to think she's a dive when she's certainly not. You are first and foremost a BRAWLER, you bully tf out of tanks and can apply so much pressure. That pressure leads focus to you and allows your team to gain space. Then once they shift back to your team who is now a lot more problematic you shift your focus to the back line. Your job is just to keep splitting the focus of each role on their team. Lmk if you want any specific tips.

[@POLODUDE117]

Thanks coach o7

[@sanguinesakura]

coach mills is gonna give me tip!

[@KatoK-JL]

can u pls do a hulk guide

[@BeholdGaming]

Sqirrel girl ult also targets raccoons brb I think, at least looked that way in a game I played

[@seriously_illy5231]

This game is pretty awesome. The only drawback is the constant matches going against the same characters. Sweating in quick match lobbies when they should be utilized for practicing with new characters. But everyone is so fixated on winning they'll just default to their sweaty characters because it's easier. My most used character is Black Widow who's probably the weakest link in just about every match. It's the same line ups every time i play. KZbin is killing competition. Nobody wants to learn anything for themselves anymore. Just follow streamers and mimic game play. No skills amongst the gaming community anymore.

[@theforknut2415]

14:16 rip punisher

[@ThorFraschetti]

Sue didn’t put a shield, nor heal while being next to him during ult 🤦🏼‍♂️

[@theforknut2415]

@@ThorFraschetti mantis behind him also

[@ThorFraschetti]

@@theforknut2415 that makes it worst 🤣

[@ThatClaude]

Sooo….Who’s going to make the comment with the time stamps for each character?

[@herkert5430]

Storm is amazing

[@piotrwieczorek7575]

what makes invisible woman different than other supports? i mean how he talks about how you decide who lives and dies etc you can do everything like her on other supports really

[@ddd09ish1]

Low key luna, cloak +dagger, and invisible woman all perform at a similar level. They all heal with basic attacks, they all have "my team will not die in this area" ults, and they all have major heals + secondary utility. They are probably all in line for healing ult nerfs/ reworks

[@clucl8117]

Invis has good saving potential especially for tanks from wolverine

[@19andrewhb92]

That's exactly how I feel about Mantis. I play her as an offensive healer and get great kills and assists and always about 13k healing. But I'm in control of the flow of the game

[@keyburri3095]

With awareness you can completely deny an Eye of Agamotto or other gamechanger ult with just her push/pull ability, no counter-ult needed.

[@saltybreaker2066]

Wait my character counters triple support? I didn’t know

[@younglegend050]

Prepare for Bucky downplay

[@dynamiicon0030]

Idk who told you magik was difficult but she’s not, like at all

[@Absol_Corpse]

I think bucky is a reach everyone knows he is good

[@Kevfactor]

If I could hit flyers I’d play squirrel girl more but that’s why this noob needs hitscan quake 2 railguns lol

[@jppitre]

14:46 YO WUT??

[@luckyducky9669]

better not see namor on this list