COBRA FUTUREFIT33 // Greatest Tech Advancement in 10 Years?!?!

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@wigib2
@wigib2 Күн бұрын
I don't quite understand all the hate this adapter is getting online. If it's not for you, no one is forcing you to play with all the settings. Put it at your typical setting and forget it. But if you like to tinker or better yet you go and get fit, this presents the options to dial things in to a finer degree than previously possible. Where's the harm in that??
@bloombeards812
@bloombeards812 Күн бұрын
I agree completely! I have seen a lot of tubers hating on this new adapter for some reason which makes no sense. It’s always better to have options that doesn’t mean you have to use them like you said. That’s one of my biggest complaints with my Sim too is when I turn the loft up or down it automatically opens or closes the face. This adapter will allow people to change the loft and lie independently, which for someone like me will help a ton. Actually surprised it took this long for a company to do this. Within the next few years, my bet is that every company will have an adapter where you can change loft and Y angle independently of each Other…
@krusher74
@krusher74 Күн бұрын
Its seem to be the modern age! the ranting of old men against moves forward in technology. This technology is really 95% for fitters and 5% for tinkereres. The 95% of average golfers don't even need to know It exists.
@SidestickPilot
@SidestickPilot Күн бұрын
Their opinions make me chuckle. They’re based on bad golf and zero knowledge on technology. It shows how impressive this stuff is when compared to other loft sleeves that have a quarter of the adjustment. If Ian is this excited about it it’s clearly something rather impressive.
@jameskeen3321
@jameskeen3321 Күн бұрын
@@bloombeards812 given Taylormade new driver is called qi35 and innovation in industry rarely happens by a single company I have a feeling we see a similar sleeve in taylormade driver but with 35 settings
@wrestlnrulz
@wrestlnrulz Күн бұрын
I think the main issue is that people are concerned some golfers will assume that this will fix all their problems. It won’t. But I agree, if it’s not for you don’t use it. I’m excited by the tweakability because I love to tinker with my gear. I think this is a step in the right direction for the entire industry.
@andersfrederiksen-winnipeg5516
@andersfrederiksen-winnipeg5516 Күн бұрын
Great tech for a qualified fitter to have at their disposal. Awesome to have loft and lie adjustments independently.
@ipotato95
@ipotato95 Күн бұрын
Rick shiels needs to watch this video or work with you guys because it’s absurd how fast he shit on this without even trying it
@socalgolf9978
@socalgolf9978 Күн бұрын
its usesless for 99% of golfers
@stevec8381
@stevec8381 Күн бұрын
Rick Shields is a clown though, just look at his clobber he is trying to punt
@Iamwrongbut
@Iamwrongbut Күн бұрын
@@socalgolf9978 not if they get custom fit.
@mattl8343
@mattl8343 Күн бұрын
​@@socalgolf9978think it's actually better for 99% of golfers, a club that can be adjusted as your swing changes over time, save a lot of money in the long run
@markspence5288
@markspence5288 Күн бұрын
@@socalgolf9978 no it’s not at all. Get it fitted leave it alone
@robdetweiler6853
@robdetweiler6853 14 сағат бұрын
Ian says he hit one high off the toe and it’s 2mm from center. Wish I had that issue! He’s got such a nice swing
@nellynelson9387
@nellynelson9387 2 сағат бұрын
This sounds brilliant, will definitely give cobra a try when they are released
@stevet.7927
@stevet.7927 Күн бұрын
For me personally, these adapters are a key technology. I'm so sensitive to how the driver looks at address that I've found the look of a driver at my correct loft might not suit my eye so need to find a lower (or higher) lofted driver and then adjust the adapter settings to get the look at address that I like with the proper loft/lie setting. This makes the fitting process essential as well as a good fitter who will take the time to work through this process. In the absence of a good fitter, its a frustrating search for something that takes too much time to figure out to make worthwhile. My only concern about this is if golfers will be able to have these clubs fit in studios who use universal adapters for all of their drivers. Hopefully Club Champion and other brand agnostic studios will all offer a post-fit session to dial in the adapter. If not, then this technology will be vastly underutilized. If Cobra themselves get into the fitting game and offer a dialed-in fitting as part of the sales process, they might have something to differentiate themselves.
@garyhovey9305
@garyhovey9305 Күн бұрын
Can’t wait to see this driver in Ian’s next WITB!
@Ducebogies
@Ducebogies Күн бұрын
This is an outstanding tool. It is revolutionary the ability to fine-tune your good shots so they're even better why would you not pursue this technology. True there are a lot of golfers out there that aren't consistent enough that this really probably wouldn't make that much of a difference however there are a lot of us who like to hold on to our drivers and as we get better we have the ability to go back on a track man or a GC quad and fine-tune further as our swing changes with time and practice.
@bighaus224
@bighaus224 11 сағат бұрын
So happy to hear this opinion. Everyone else on KZbin are whining about it like children. Cough Rick, James, Cough.... 😂 Imagine complaining about something that has zero effect on you
@peterbuzz7279
@peterbuzz7279 Күн бұрын
Great loft sleeve design by cobra which has dealt with many of the other manufacturers limitations. Should be a universal loft sleeve between all the manufacturers.
@tylerkulhanek7270
@tylerkulhanek7270 Күн бұрын
Love the channel.
@ottawapop
@ottawapop Күн бұрын
I need a self adjusting cog that tweaks itself in the downswing to a perfect drive…. LAB should make a driver cog.
@johnnymossville
@johnnymossville Күн бұрын
I have a Cobra Speedzone that I really love. Wouldn't mind a fitting session with one of the new Cobra's to see if I can find any improvements. There are so many settings I feel like I'd never really find it's potential on my own at the range.
@hypeNT500
@hypeNT500 Күн бұрын
James Robinson had the best review of the adapter calling it the Da Vinci code to the next dimension 😂
@andersfrederiksen-winnipeg5516
@andersfrederiksen-winnipeg5516 Күн бұрын
I wouldn’t take James Robinson as an expert on club tech, optimal golf swing mechanics, etc lol.
@hypeNT500
@hypeNT500 Күн бұрын
@ ​​⁠it does not take a rocket scientist to know this adapter requires pinpoint precision ball striking to notice any difference compared to the adapters that have been used for last year
@stevenmiddleton7175
@stevenmiddleton7175 17 сағат бұрын
I'm going to miss these "geek out" technical episodes where you really dive into the fitting process and how the equipment and tools can be used to get you there.
@ashleyevans1255
@ashleyevans1255 Күн бұрын
Almost better numbers straight away over the Titleist GT fitting you had. Im after a Gt3 so this driver could be a contender aswell
@mikecoughlin4128
@mikecoughlin4128 12 сағат бұрын
The way I see this adapter as a high handicapper is I can get the setting that seems to work best for me at the fitting with my current swing. As I hopefully gets better and more consistent I might need a different setting. That scenario could play out several times over the life of the club and my swing. Without this adapter I would be looking a t a new shaft/head or both each time my swing made an incremental improvement.
@HunterWhetzel-xd1nd
@HunterWhetzel-xd1nd Күн бұрын
Hey! With all of the adjustments you can make with this adapter, does it make adjustable weights obsolete besides targeting a desired swing weight?
@Willberight2moro
@Willberight2moro Күн бұрын
Best adapter on the market... I assume that it comes in RH and lefty unlike Titleist....
@ten8d1
@ten8d1 Күн бұрын
Please, please, please, please, test the Newton graphite shafts. Thank you!
@adammiller4044
@adammiller4044 22 сағат бұрын
I feel like this is great for loft and lie adjustments, but lie angle has less of an effect on left/right direction with driver than face angle does. For other adapters that don’t keep the face square (no smartpad) the face can open or close which I think can help more for left/right direction. Those ones aren’t as good if you need a true loft change (since it’s more of a face direction change), but they seem better for the person fighting a slice than a lie adjustment.
@richardmarsh1769
@richardmarsh1769 Күн бұрын
Love it to get fitted - suspect it makes some of the head adjustability redundant ?? Or is it find a head and shaft combo and this is just tweaks ?
@jimmypeach8838
@jimmypeach8838 Күн бұрын
I wish KZbinrs would say what type of shot they are trying to hit rather then often just swinging away..... the results are often all over so can't tell what's going on and what they are trying to play lol...... If you are trying to hit a dead straight one then just say so, but good luck on that one lol. I usually play a cut w driver and never just swing away without playin a specific shot.
@hypeNT500
@hypeNT500 Күн бұрын
Based on the cobra chart it shows loft lie are not independent of each other. Adjusting loft will change the loft vice versa
@knee1499
@knee1499 Күн бұрын
Is there going to be a Cobra Adapt LS and GT4 comparison? Ian seemed to like the lower cc Cobra so why not GT4?
@krusher74
@krusher74 Күн бұрын
Thay say you can adjust loft and lie by 2 degrees, but not at the same time? When they went to the most extreme it was only 1.4deg in each. And with the heads being 9 and 10.5. Wil some of the setting now make those clubs completely the same in certain settings? can a set both up as 9.5 1deg upright and them play just the same?
@PiratePenguinFL
@PiratePenguinFL Күн бұрын
The internal weighting in the LS and X are different between the 9 and 10.5, so even at similar loft they would have different spin, etc. Not a 1-to-1 match.
@grumpywizards
@grumpywizards Күн бұрын
33 possible options on the windmill plane of possible settings...hits first one right, second one left...LGTM! /s
@seanconnors7639
@seanconnors7639 Күн бұрын
One of the cogs is still fixed so shaft orientation or grip alignment will be an issue for those of us who care. Need to ask Cobra why they didn't follow Callaway and Titleist and allow both cogs to rotate which seems like such an easy fix.
@MetalGear69
@MetalGear69 Күн бұрын
It's meant for club fitters, not amateurs tinkerers. Supposed to get it fitted to your setting before getting it gripped.
@RichardPalmbergDDS
@RichardPalmbergDDS Күн бұрын
@@MetalGear69great, and then when you work on a swing change?
@krusher74
@krusher74 Күн бұрын
Most after a fitting would have the grip orientated to that setting. If I change seting on a club I own with a garage compressor it takes me 2 mins to turn the grip.
@colvillesfinest5761
@colvillesfinest5761 Күн бұрын
Do you really use the grip g align your hands?? Why do yall complain about this? Must be terrible if you’ve gotta use it to align your hands
@r_knapp13
@r_knapp13 Күн бұрын
For what it’s worth, Titleist doesn’t allow both cogs to move, so the grip will rotate in certain settings as well. Callaway is the only one that doesn’t.
@randallpennington5976
@randallpennington5976 Күн бұрын
With this hosel adjustment, has Cobra just made shaft choice easier?
@justinhughes5663
@justinhughes5663 Күн бұрын
When are you guys going to do the velecore blue 2024 vs original velecore blue?
@Chris.Cliver
@Chris.Cliver Күн бұрын
I read online that the face angle stays neutral with this new sleeve adapter no matter what setting you are in. Something about the "Smart Pad" flat section on the sole of the driver but this isn't explained further and sounds suspiciously too good to be true - can anyone confirm? Would have been nice if the video illustrated what is actually changing when you move adapter sleeve settings. Fix the head to a stationary point in on the ground and then show us how the sleeve changes move the shaft/grip around.
@dennissmith1904
@dennissmith1904 Күн бұрын
Will this adapter fit previous drivers?
@krusher74
@krusher74 Күн бұрын
no
@rlbjr
@rlbjr Күн бұрын
How are you going to use the FF33 in a fitting when you use universal adapters? You won't be able to have your entire shaft matrix available.
@stephencwilson8151
@stephencwilson8151 Күн бұрын
How will you handle the rest of the woods?
@jdc43069
@jdc43069 Күн бұрын
Club champion and most fitters who use universal adapters can’t fit this driver and hope to unlock what this adapter can do.
@sixstringsdown1
@sixstringsdown1 Күн бұрын
Doesn't HONMA offer drivers with special adapters that allow loft change w/o change in Lie Angle?
@GeelongDevil
@GeelongDevil Күн бұрын
As do Titleist and Callaway
@hypeNT500
@hypeNT500 Күн бұрын
Now have Mikey test the 64 setting cog to see how revolutionary his ball flight will be. Should be so revolutionary that Mikey will go from being a scratch golfer to playing for the pga tour shooting under par everywhere he plays Congratulations Mikey 👍🏼
@daniellincoln5922
@daniellincoln5922 17 сағат бұрын
I think eventually you will see loft sleeves on irons.
@jdsmo
@jdsmo Күн бұрын
Anyone know where we can get that cobra 1/4 zip?
@erickbauer8888
@erickbauer8888 Күн бұрын
Can that adapter be used with other cobra heads? Aero or dark speed
@1averageamerican
@1averageamerican Күн бұрын
Nope. It's a whole new system.
@koryliedtke1631
@koryliedtke1631 8 сағат бұрын
Figures, I just spent $1k on a Darkspeed LS through Club Champion this year and they come out with this? Murphy's Law!!!
@IBOTCHvx33
@IBOTCHvx33 Күн бұрын
Shaft flex for Ian when he’s at 110?
@kevinmcarthur1690
@kevinmcarthur1690 23 сағат бұрын
Have Cobra just trumped every other manufacturer with this sleeve ?
@charlestucker6854
@charlestucker6854 Күн бұрын
The adaptor is'nt meant to fix terrible swings. The adaptor is meant to put the club in the best position for a golfer when they make a good swing...lol. You still have to do your part. The tool is only as good as the user🙂
@arpus1995
@arpus1995 Күн бұрын
wait, i thought I saw this last week?
@barracatcher6466
@barracatcher6466 21 сағат бұрын
Titleist finally has a real competitor eh.......
@cryptoking8060
@cryptoking8060 Күн бұрын
Can I use this adapter in my Aerojet head?
@andrewpants2755
@andrewpants2755 Күн бұрын
Nope.
@hypeNT500
@hypeNT500 Күн бұрын
Cannot wait for the 122 setting adapter
@exrog
@exrog Күн бұрын
I have the Cobra Dark Speed LS driver. Will this adapter fit ?
@stuartgannon3366
@stuartgannon3366 Күн бұрын
No, from what I hear it won’t fit older drivers than this DS Adapt range
@atfinthehouse8631
@atfinthehouse8631 Күн бұрын
Twisting it and moving it, you don’t actually see anything happening at the hozzle adapter level. So are these just numbers on rings to make it seem like something changes at the site of attachment of the head to the shaft/adapter?
@chuckct9
@chuckct9 Күн бұрын
lmao
@SvingitGolf
@SvingitGolf Күн бұрын
Heard of Wishon? The 919 THI driver was adjustable if you had a bending machine for woods.
@tactful_colt8536
@tactful_colt8536 19 сағат бұрын
I can just see it now. A dude who can’t swing at all wanting to spend two hours with every adjustment hoping it fixes his swing somehow. Fitters nightmare
@mikegnh603
@mikegnh603 16 сағат бұрын
Why is Taylormade the only company that publishes the face angle consequences of loft adjustments? How does this cobra sleeve affect face angle?
@Ri_Guy
@Ri_Guy Күн бұрын
Last
@medfloat5001
@medfloat5001 Күн бұрын
Can you say paralysis by analysis?
@socalgolf9978
@socalgolf9978 Күн бұрын
these will be on clearance next year $199
@AndrewNeilBaird
@AndrewNeilBaird 11 сағат бұрын
Like this comment if you think Rick Shields talks rubbish.
@bernard0camp0s
@bernard0camp0s Күн бұрын
When I see a brand rep standing next to u while you record, i don't even bother. I want impartiality above all else
@socalgolf9978
@socalgolf9978 Күн бұрын
facts
@tonysanta3497
@tonysanta3497 Күн бұрын
The concept on paper sounds phenomenal!!!! Having to tinker so much is just a hassle. They made a masters degree out of this adapter, and prevented Cobra loyal players from upgrading.
@chuckct9
@chuckct9 Күн бұрын
How are they preventing you from upgrading?
@tonysanta3497
@tonysanta3497 Күн бұрын
@chuckct9 I currently have Callaway. I have been upgrading my driver and 3 wood heads while keeping the same shaft for more than a decade. Cobra customers would have to pay a premium to upgrade.
@chuckct9
@chuckct9 Күн бұрын
@@tonysanta3497 You realize that shaft adapter tips can be removed and changed, and that adapters can be obtained separately, yes? I went from Callaway driver to Cobra, kept my old shafts. Removed the Callaway tips, and installed Cobra tips. Voilà! Honestly, I can't wrap my head around the insane amount of bellyaching in here over this new adapter. lol
@nickmillar9651
@nickmillar9651 Күн бұрын
I can’t believe golfers need that much dialed in for 1 yard right, left etc. I can figure that out my watching my flight and adjust set up if needed. I’m a plus 2 handicap. And I wouldn’t need this at all
@wessims3412
@wessims3412 Күн бұрын
It is a magnificent development and definitely an expensive toy to play with. Many of the adjustments are so subtle, and with humans having inconsistent swings people could be playing with this on the course every time they hit a couple of bad shots trying to correct it. And if you have a $1000 auto flex shaft from the previous driver, you cannot put it in this. If someone needs 33 adjustments to try and straighten out their game, they need to just invest a bit of money and go take a few golf lessons and take that part of their game seriously.
@kevinvonderscher3971
@kevinvonderscher3971 Күн бұрын
This driver will be great for fitters like you guys but for the average Joe this thing will be as popular as a warm turd on a summer sidewalk ! 33 settlings ? I don't want to go back to school to take a algebra class to figure it out ! Most guys are " set it & forget it " types who will grab a ping , calloway or taylor made & avoid the migrain this club will give you .
@hypeNT500
@hypeNT500 Күн бұрын
There is not one person on the planet that can benefit from this adapter. These adapters from last year works just fine. The adjustment on this adapter is overkill. No way is there a human consistent enough that will see a dramatic change in the settings of this adapter compared to last years adapters.
@markspence5288
@markspence5288 Күн бұрын
Not according to Rick shields. He knows his stuff!!!
@RichardPalmbergDDS
@RichardPalmbergDDS Күн бұрын
I like Rick, but he is awful for gear info.
@krusher74
@krusher74 Күн бұрын
LOL, Rick shield's is like the average gold idiot has far tomuch of an opinion about something he doesn't even understand. He know what to say that gets all the old ranting golf bores going for more views.
@colvillesfinest5761
@colvillesfinest5761 Күн бұрын
😂 Rick is terrible. How is a dude who can’t even golf well himself talk about clubs he doesn’t understand. Rick just reads a script and says what he’s told without knowing what he’s saying.
@hypeNT500
@hypeNT500 Күн бұрын
Rick absolutely battered the adapter Pure comedy
@hypeNT500
@hypeNT500 Күн бұрын
@@markspence5288 cannot wait for Peter finch to do a review on the adapter 😂
@hypeNT500
@hypeNT500 Күн бұрын
Next will be the 64 setting adapter coming soon
@michaelbarker3749
@michaelbarker3749 Күн бұрын
Whatever it takes to dial in set ups
@krusher74
@krusher74 Күн бұрын
funnily this one actually has 64 setting , but only 33 are unique
@marcroy7542
@marcroy7542 Күн бұрын
If Cobra thought it was so life-changing and it's the best adapter out there from a fitting perspective, then why not put it in their irons? There is no need to bend anymore, but all the adjustability. It's what i thought they were going to do with the name Adapt irons but sadly same old products.
@jamiegarrison7328
@jamiegarrison7328 Күн бұрын
This will lead to slow play on the range now
@medfloat5001
@medfloat5001 Күн бұрын
Can you say paralysis by analysis? Holy shmolly, too many settings.
@nelsonapontejr.6793
@nelsonapontejr.6793 Күн бұрын
Probably not for a fitter
@captainsnake7406
@captainsnake7406 Күн бұрын
Like he said u will never used that many, u get fitted in a certain quadrant.
@krusher74
@krusher74 Күн бұрын
Dy saying that you dont understand the options and how they can help , as a person who ballons a slice, maybe 4/6 setting would help me but a low hooker might need the opposite 4/6 settings. There are 33 to cover all peoples fitting needs. Asa fader I don't need extra help fading, so half the setting are never going to be for me.
@shaunbeauchemin8985
@shaunbeauchemin8985 Күн бұрын
this adapter is stupid, over engineered and not necessary . we are not robots . the amatuer is to inconsistent.
@Pud56
@Pud56 Күн бұрын
Couldn’t disagree more, this technology is change for changes sake. Most amateur golfers, don’t need this level of tinkering. It might be a fitters justification for their existence, but it doesn’t move golf forward one iota. Most fittings are loft, lie,shaft and weight; if this doesn’t suit have lessons
@RichardPalmbergDDS
@RichardPalmbergDDS Күн бұрын
Don’t “need” it lol it absolutely helps with fittings because two of those parameters you yourself listed as important for fitting were directly linked in lie and loft. Unlinking them is huge for proper fitting.
@krusher74
@krusher74 Күн бұрын
They you dont understand currently that to get a loft you want you might end up in a lie you don't.
@SidestickPilot
@SidestickPilot Күн бұрын
Leave the golf knowledge to the subject matter experts. Ian is more knowledgeable than this entire comment section combined. This adapter is game changing. Every fitter has said so. I’m a scratch golfer and find this fascinating and can see the usefulness of those options. If you want to just continue to use the same equipment possibly fighting it be all means go ahead.
@Pud56
@Pud56 Күн бұрын
@ i was plus 3 in my youth so can play the game, its fools gold in the wrong hands, fitters will say its great as it justifies their existence
@fletch69gmc
@fletch69gmc Күн бұрын
waste of time shame on cobra!!!
@ianfrasergolf
@ianfrasergolf 15 сағат бұрын
Huh??? Shame on Cobra??? For innovating an incredible new feature that will help club fitters unlock more performance for golfers. I see zero downside and can’t understand why you would be critical of this.
@fletch69gmc
@fletch69gmc 11 сағат бұрын
Been fitting clubs for many years all this does is confuse the amateur golfer especially the 18 and up handicappers.....
@GeelongDevil
@GeelongDevil Күн бұрын
How exactly is it a great ‘technological advancement’? It’s exactly the same technology as the Titleist and Callaway sleeves except they’ve put more notches in it to allow for changes of smaller increments. Stop falling for all of the PR hype.
@jballoregon
@jballoregon Күн бұрын
Nobody needs this adjustment...99% of the golfers don't deliver the club consistently enough to see any benefit in this.
@richardmarsh1769
@richardmarsh1769 Күн бұрын
Love it to get fitted - suspect it makes some of the head adjustability redundant ?? Or is it find a head and shaft combo and this is just tweaks ?
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