Cobra Jet Or 2018 intake Manifold _ Which one makes more power?

2 gen 3 Mustangs hit the dyno. Both on E85 and long tunes and tuned by lund. . One of them has a cobra jet Intake Manifold.. Does it make more power? Was it worth it?
#mustang #fordmustang #mustanggt

[@StupidFastTruck]

Amazing power for N/A. The Coyote is such a great power plant.

[@coyotecarguy2076]

Stupid Fast Truck.. . I think so to!! Both of these cars make great power!

[@torinace258]

instablaster...

[@primofx2sport]

The cobra jet manifold just looks amazing compared to 18+ manifold.

[@coyotecarguy2076]

It really does!

[@keithwoodworth4393]

I have the GT 350 manifold with the GT 350 throttle body and the GT 350 JLT CAI on my 15 GT premium auto F.B.O and love it my 2015 is a guard green running on E85

[@coyotecarguy2076]

keith Woodworth . . Wow Bud! You Got a Guard Metallic 2015 Mustang!!! Thats one of the Nicest cars!! Full Bolt on is a nice way to go Congrats!!

[@MustangTTGT]

Thanks for the video of my car Al. But to be fair, I thought I told you that day. I do have comp stage 2 drop in cams. That’s the reason for the HP difference. I am on E85 also.

[@carmob7499]

Thatfastgreenbean16 nice car man 💪🏻.

[@coyotecarguy2076]

Thatfastgreenbean16. . Honestly i dont remember talking to you .. but a Cj manifold should add 20 whp .. . Makes for good entertainment. . .

[@MustangTTGT]

Coyote carguy yeah we talked haha, that’s how you got all the info on my car. No, the CJ doesn’t pick up what you’d think on a gen 3. I’ve done the testing. All they do is carry the power out further. The cams made about a 30whp gain.

[@maddogmark6460]

@@MustangTTGT The Com Cams Stage-3 see about 40 extra horses according to Hot Rod Mag. Lund is recommending either adding the Steeda air restrictor insert or changing CAI. I removed my Steeda closed box CAI and replaced with the stock CAI. Oil from the oiled high-flow air filter clogged my MAF sensor. Additionally, I hit the oiled air filter against the wall and a bunch of fine rusty particles fell out. Back to paper filters. www.hotrod.com/articles/ford-coyote-update-new-stage-3-cams-dyno-592-hp/

[@midnight347]

@@MustangTTGT id be willing to bet if you did the cams with stock manifold first then compared it to the cj the cj would have better gains vs 18 up intake than it does when swapped on a stock cam car. A cobra jet car needs cams to get the full potential from it the stock cams kinda hold it back which is why it doesn't add much peak power over an 18. A cammed coyote would see bigger gains from the cj is what I'm saying. Carrying the power out a noticeable amount is actually a pretty big deal so saying that is all it does is kinda downplaying the importance. The cj is the superior setup for sure it just needs aftermarket cams to fully show what it can do. The stock manifold was designed around the stock cams of course it works good with them lol.

[@hUrFaH54]

Awesome vid! I’m waiting till the Mach 1 comes out to see if it brings a different/better manifold that can be swapped on

[@forcedair92gt94]

Greg45Pz So what you're saying is, a 5.2 lt high comp NA variant with a Cobra Jet type intake is what Ford should offer as the Mach 1. I agree with you LOL.

[@hUrFaH54]

forcedair 92gt 🤷🏻‍♂️ one can dream lol, don’t wanna buy twice

[@coyotecarguy2076]

Greg45Pz .. My guess is the Mach 1 will be a 5.2 cross playne crank with a gt 350 manifold making 550 hp and an available 10 speed automatic!! Keeping my fingers crossed!!

[@shoes3871]

@@coyotecarguy2076 MAch 1 is bullitt motor sad!

[@alfenner3309]

@@coyotecarguy2076 I think it will be 490-510 hp.

[@joshodin19]

Good stuff,al! I'm ready for some mods on mine, but for now, I'll just live through your videos. Lol

[@coyotecarguy2076]

Josh Beck . . Glad you like the video's brotha! When the time is right you will have your day. ..

[@IMGONEIN60]

I’ve seen a properly tuned super cobra jet intake NA coyote hang with supercharged cars👍🏽👍🏽

[@coyotecarguy2076]

Hey Des . . I have seen that also .. . . with no added weight of the blower a N/A car making upwards of 500 whp will run like crazy!

[@GoFastNation]

Great video! That CJ car impressed me! Makes me wish I would have gone gen 3!! Lol

[@hUrFaH54]

Gens 2s are probably better for boost, reliability wise. And this is from a gen 3 owner haha

[@GoFastNation]

@@hUrFaH54 true but boost is too much money for me right now lol. I need to start a "build a boost" fund lol

[@coyotecarguy2076]

Go Fast Nation . . . The Gen 2 is pretty Badass also. . . you will enjoy that just the same. . .

[@hUrFaH54]

Go Fast Nation yeah I feel you lol , I already made the decision to stay n/a

[@rockbiterhd]

I am a new sub to your channel love the content i am in Australia and have the 2017 GT premium just lovin it its the same colour a yours great work

[@coyotecarguy2076]

Rockbiter Hd. . . Thanks Brotha! Thanks for the sub!

[@coyotefury]

Great comparison thank you

[@coyotecarguy2076]

Coyote Fury. . . .Thanks for watching!

[@downhilldaddy9346]

Content is 🔥🙌🏾

[@coyotecarguy2076]

david martin . . . Thanks Brotha!

[@underfedcoyote5.022]

Everything I seen cobra jet wins everytime. Is it worth the money gonna find out bought mine already. I’m doing cams ported cobra jet on gen 1 though

[@bastee2727]

Underfedcoyote 5.0 same guys everywhere. Do it. I love mine 👍🏻

[@underfedcoyote5.022]

Bas Tee I have people that swear the 18 ported is the same as a cobra jet. I just don’t think it is myself. That’s why I ported my cobra jet. Trying to build a max N/A 6r80 car. Then once I accomplish this build. I plan on going for some boost.

[@coyotecarguy2076]

Underfedcoyote 5.0 . .. the cobra jet is pretty Badass .. . cant go wrong with it. .

[@midnight347]

With cams and a port on the cj along with a big monoblade you will see max gains from it. It will carry the power out more up top and its just plain faster. 18 is a good budget upgrade but the cj is king. If I were doing it I would do it right first time put a pmas intake on it with a monoblade (the small tbodies hold it back...twin 65 or 67 is alot better than stock twin 60 gt500 tbody but it isnt as good as a monobladw). The opening is what separates the cj from everything else the fact so much air can come through not putting a big monoblade negates that that is why you see some people with the 18 peak to peak numbers kinda close. A properly tuned cj with a mono and good pmas will make more peak power and carry the power out alot more especially with aftermarket cams. You made the right choice my friend. Imo I think the cj would leave more of a gap between it and an 18 manifold if it were to be compared on a cammed coyote. Cams let the cj do what it does.

[@midnight347]

@@underfedcoyote5.022 a ported 18 can get within a few hp of a non ported cj peak to peak but it isnt just about peak power that is what people don't understand the cj carries power out alot more and the more mods you have like long tubes and cams the gap is just gonna widen between the two imo. You made the right choice

[@Tommy1198S]

Would love for ford to make a 351 coyote.

[@coyotecarguy2076]

Thomas . . I would love to see a 5.6 coyote!!

[@charlesmeaux3954]

they did 11-14 gt500 has a 5.8

[@coyotekelly7143]

What's up al? Hope all is well with you and your staying safe. I have been working alot so I haven't been able to watch the channel as much

[@coyotecarguy2076]

coyote Kelly . . How u doin Bud!! All is well here. . . stay safe bud and dont work to Hard!

[@victorxavier9977]

Two sweet NA mustangs thx Al, stay safe!

[@coyotecarguy2076]

Victor Xavier .. . . Thanks, you too!

[@CanadianCruisin]

I'm curious what my car would make on the dyno. I should book it in one of these days

[@coyotecarguy2076]

Canadian Cruisin . . I would say your car would put down like 400-410 hp on true 93 octane gas .. if you dont have 93 octane then add some boostane.. . .

[@CanadianCruisin]

@@coyotecarguy2076 we have 94 here but I hear it's about the same quality as the 93 in the USA

[@BeardsandCars]

That is pretty good but most say for the money difference ..just keep the 2018 manifold

[@coyotecarguy2076]

YooOO! James!!! I hear the ported 2018 manifold is pretty Badass!

[@BeardsandCars]

@@coyotecarguy2076 yessss

[@midnight347]

That is because people only worry about peak to peak gains not which manifold is quicker. A properly tuned cj with a proper monoblade will have a few more whp peak vs peak but carry it out alot better up top which is what really makes the difference. Its just a grand brand new you can get a brand new ported one for 1300 which is what I would do. Yes you gotta get an intake and throttle body but you wanna run a mono with it anyways to see its true potential. The opening is what separates it from everything else not putting a mono on it holds back its potential. If you take this into account from the start you'll wait on the cold air to do it all at once so you don't gotta buy twice. It really isn't that much money for how much quicker it'll make the car. People drop 1000 bucks on an axle back that does nothing for powe 9 out of 10 times but don't wanna pony up similar money for something that is going to make as big a difference in performance let alone looks as the cj does. The key is dont castrate the cj by putting a smaller twin bore on it...put a ported cj on with a mono and upgrade the cams too if you want max na this is how its done and it isnt just about peak to peak whp (which will also be higher on a proper cj setup) its about how it carries the power out alot further up top. That is the key to what makes the difference. If you wanna go quick as you can na cobra jet is the ticket idk why people think its so expensive for the difference it makes it really isn't that expensive compared to any other mod. The more mods like cams and long tubes you have the more distance you'll see between the two intakes. 18 is a good budget upgrade for earlier cars for sure but the best intake is the cj if you wanna go max na irs the only way and it really doesn't cost that much considering the results compares to any other mod and it also looks badass to boot. To each his own. If you don't care about going quick as you can na, stick with the 18..lol

[@alnasri3659]

How did work the throttle 65mm ? It doesn’t work in my mustang 2020 gt

[@coyotecarguy2076]

Twin 65 mm a tuner could explain it

[@MikeFyxdt]

Gotta ask...what’s the difference between dyno jet, mustang and SAE horsepower? Since it is all computer-generated, why not just use one standard?

[@coyotecarguy2076]

Mike Fyxdt. . Honestly Mike i have some knowledge of the different Dyno's but not enough to answer you accurately. . . There is no standard unfortunately. . . and all dyno's vary a little. . The dyno jet give's std figured and SAE (adjusted for DA). . the mustang dyno gives its standard number i guess and its corrected number (corrected for DA) the two dynos measure horsepower differently . . . The Mustang dyno is known as the heart break dyno since the numbers are low. .. but we know the added 12% is pretty accurate adjustment based on track times and in some cases where some cars were previously run on dyno jets. . . Personally i think both of the cars in this video were making more power . . especially the orange one. .

[@MikeFyxdt]

Coyote carguy - the heartbreak dyno - I love it! I wish SAE or the automotive lobby or someone would just say, “On June 1 everyone will use the following calibrations...” and the results would be the same whatever you test on. I suppose what really matters is that if you start testing on one type of machine, that you use the same kind of machine to do your follow up testing on. What is most important is gains or losses, and the numbers themselves are just for bragging rights.

[@RichieRich980215]

Hey Al, Did you say the orange fury was running on E85, cobra jet intake and the bigger throttle body?

[@coyotecarguy2076]

Richard Mueller. . . Yes! E85, CJ Manifold and twin 65mm TB. . . Nice set up

[@utrracingchannel1904]

@@coyotecarguy2076 ported cj?

[@TooneTv]

Yesssiiiirrrr back with another banger

[@coyotecarguy2076]

Toone Tv . . Thanks Brotha!

[@ricksgt2012]

Love that orange color.

[@boostedhemi7118]

Always interesting videos. Thanks

[@coyotecarguy2076]

Destroyer Scat Pack .. ..Glad you like them!

[@ganjd1148]

What is that black spoiler on the white car? Definitely have not seen it before

[@carmob7499]

Incredible power gains with just a Manifold , great video ...

[@coyotecarguy2076]

The Car Mob. . not bad for N/A right!!!

[@PRIESTNBLACK]

Hey Coyote car guy,still have your Orange Fury car?

[@ehrldawg]

WSomeone forgot to shave !!

[@coyotecarguy2076]

ehrldawg . . . i hate shaving! lol!

[@TroyRossberg]

How would that compare to a GT350/Mach 1 intake?

[@jdwhoa]

2018+ manifold and cobra jet have better numbers than the GT350 intake manifold. The 18+ and cobra jet have similar numbers, but the cobra jet delivers power and torque more smoothly throughout the curve and doesn't die off at 7k rpm.

[@ivan199120]

Nice! How much are the pulls at five bar? I'd like to put mine on the rollers. Only difference between mine and this one is the long tubes. I decided not to go with them.

[@coyotecarguy2076]

Orange Fury .. . Give Joe a call. . He is reasonable on the price!

[@erichaley6776]

Wish you could have done this comparison with a manual transmission car! I’m sick of the lame automatic cars

[@Pallares03]

The future is now old man. Automatic ftw

[@octavioloera1235]

Where did you get the intake from?

[@antz19coyote73]

So the whole purpose of that Steeda Intake is to pull air in while driving and keep iat’s down and sorry that Car is NOT seeing 500 RW on a dyno jet. And all Cars run differently so there is no comparison unless it’s on the same Car.

[@coyotecarguy2076]

Antz19Coyote. . i beg to differ with you sir. . we have seen a gen one making 385 whp.. a gen 3 does it easily

[@midnight347]

A fbo cj gen 3 can def make 500 to the tires on e85 even through the 10r80. Every car may not see that but it is certainly very doable some have even done 500 with the stock manifold on dynojets. It is a fact that dynojet reads a decent bit higher. It put down 485 on this dyno. Dyno is just a tuning tool so absolute numbers aren't that important but they can def hit 500+ with a cj e85 and fbo with a gen3.

[@trunkslorenzana]

dyno jet it would be around 520rwhp with CAMS stage 3, no way a gen3 with cj and long tube and e85 is making 533rwhp LOL relax

[@coyotecarguy2076]

Rick L . . i got another video coming out showing a car like with cams making even more power . . same day same dyno

[@trunkslorenzana]

@@coyotecarguy2076 my close friend has a gen 3, fbo with cj and e85 and hes pushing 503 on the mustang dyno, with cams he expects around 530ish he said.

[@Mo47047]

Is it worth it?? I have a 2018 mustang 10 speed I'm thinking to throw cj on that 5.0 wt u think

[@coyotecarguy2076]

MR MO.. Personally i would rather have a Gt 350 intake . . especially for the street . .. the cobra jet requires lowering the motor with Special Steeda motor mounts . . the gt 350 intake also retains the IMRC's which helps the engine develop part throttle torque at low rpm. . . a better choice in my opinion ..

[@midnight347]

If you want max na power the cj is what you need you might as well get it ported too for max gains. There are clearance issues so make sure not to forget that you need drop mounts or a cowl hood. You need at least l&m intake cams (idk if they make em for 18 up) to get the most from the cj. The intake cams and cj neither one lose low end torque but both together gain a ton of top end power and carry it out alot better it will def make your car faster at the strip. All the fast na guys run a cobra jet there is a reason for that because when it comes to na its king. People get too caught up in peak to peak gains. If you swap it onto a stock cam 18 you may not see more than a few whp peak to peak gains but it carries it out alot more...a ported cj will obviously see the most power that is why I recommend it. A good port job is worth at least 10-15 whp over non ported for the price you pay for a good port its a no brainer imo. You will be faster with a properly tuned cj that is a fact.

[@madmotorhead9425]

Great video Al, great to see some NA power

[@coyotecarguy2076]

trooper_ 5.0. . .. . .Many thanks! yeah these Mustangs run pretty hot N/A

[@jrrogersstang4696]

🐎🐎🐎🦅🦅🦅🔥🔥🔥💪🏿👍🏿

[@coyotecarguy2076]

jr los .. Thanks Brotha!

[@tomeng6733]

So you guys in FL don't have to stay home and or do social distancing? Lucky!

[@coyotecarguy2076]

Tom Eng. . . LOL! These video's were taken months ago .. just posting now. .. .

[@rediscoveringamerica3003]

I've got the same '18 orange fury premium GT with the blackout pack as well. Only difference is I have the manual trans. Looking for options down the road to up the power and ways to keep it stuck to the road. Thanks for the informative video!

[@coyotecarguy2076]

Rediscovering America. . Glad the info was helpful brotha!

[@BLACKKNIGHTMUSTANG]

Awesome video. Big Bro.them was some nice Stangs there.Stang Life 🐎

[@coyotecarguy2076]

Hey Ant. . It all Starts with Coffee!! community coffee!!

[@Rafay-px5eb]

Pretty crap power for being on e85 lmao my gen 1 coyotee makes 478 on 93 pump gass full na

[@onebadponyd2k]

What gears did the white one have

[@coyotecarguy2076]

reynaldo delgado .. . Not 100%b sure but i think both cars had 3.55's

[@alfenner3309]

Port the '18 intake manifold and you get close to the same as the CJ.

[@coyotecarguy2076]

Al Fenner . . . You make a good point!! the 2018 manifold makes good power .. i got a video on the way showcasing the 2018 manifold ..

[@midnight347]

You'll get close to cj peak to peak but the cj carries it out alot more up top. A ported cj will again spank a ported 18. You want max na power cj is where its at. Carrying the power out further is a big deal it will make your car faster all the fastest na guys use a cobra jet there is a reason for that. You want a good intake setup and a monoblade tbody to get the most out of the cj putting it on with stock gt500 tbodies holds back its potential. Ported cj for max gains at the dyno or at the track. If all your interested in is peak power the 18 does good especially for the price but if you want the car to be faster and pull harder up top its cj all the way.

[@alfenner3309]

@@midnight347 agreed..! Affordability is key for me. I'm happy with the ported 18 manifold. At least for now. At 8k rpm I keep up with most in my area. I just like to know my car is as fast as I like it. My 10sp 10r80 is a beast.

[@willsperformancetech2933]

​@@alfenner3309totally agree as well, but in my opinion 🤷 🤔 I don't think that spending a hugemonguest amount of money on a CJ and tbody for extra 9 to 10 hp is worth it. My 18 a10 with with stock manifold and tb , JLT, full exhaust and 93 tuned so far I had smoked some stock kitty 😺, bo ctsv, fbo cammed 6 gen camaro ss, bus gab snack packs 😊 and still get amazing gas mileage. I can't be any happier.

[@mileshiles1287]

I like the black out package on the fury. Impressive deference.

[@coyotecarguy2076]

miles Hiles .. . . I think the CJ is awesome

[@patriot2118]

So where do I purchase this intake manifold?

[@coyotecarguy2076]

patriot 21 . . It should be available online. . any mustang parts supplier. .

[@matthewkruk67]

What did you have to do to clear the hood with the cobra jet?

[@coyotecarguy2076]

That Bul3 10R80. . . He lowered the motor with a tubular K-Member

[@darrylpolite8722]

I want to do a lot of these mods but I'm in fear of losing my warranty since my car isn't even 2 years old. For now my only option is the Power Pack 2 or Power Pack 3. I really want to do some bolt one, a Cobra Jet, and an E85 tune by Lund 🥺

[@coyotecarguy2076]

Darryl Polite . . yeah i know what you mean. . voiding the warranty is never a good idea. . but a lund e85 tune in my 2018 mustang got me an extra 40hp. . .not bad!

[@SK-qg1ln]

I went bolt ons e85 after 900 miles of owning mine 😂 the ford here in my town doesn’t care if a car is modded so I’m lucky

[@nozopoke1782]

I thought CJ did not fit the stock hood

[@coyotecarguy2076]

Nozo Poke. .. the owner lowered the engine with a tubular k member .. otherwise it would not fit . . you are correct

[@JonR35]

Great video, liking the beard.

[@coyotecarguy2076]

JR's Variety Tv ... .Hey, thanks!

[@chidrole]

Great vid Al! Stay safe my friend! 👍🇨🇦

[@coyotecarguy2076]

Chidrole . . Thanks John! You To!

[@deanissit]

Nice to do a comparison good results.

[@coyotecarguy2076]

dean . . .Glad you liked it!

[@Jack-b5o6r]

💪🏻

[@coyotecarguy2076]

👊👊👊

[@NickelWhiteS550]

Where they in 7th gear ?

[@coyotecarguy2076]

Nickel white S550 . . . Yes my friend 7th gear pulls

[@yel0n_s550]

Good material, thanks!

[@coyotecarguy2076]

Glad you liked it!

[@underfedcoyote5.022]

Damn man good numbers

[@coyotecarguy2076]

Underfedcoyote 5.0 .. .. . Yeah! Over 500 whp is awesome. .

[@19gt92]

Another great video

[@coyotecarguy2076]

19GT. .. Glad you enjoyed it

[@mystic9696]

Cobra Jet is king, but a ported 18 manifold isn’t far behind.

[@coyotecarguy2076]

Ron. .. . You Know it!

[@midnight347]

On a stock camed car. Once cams enter the equation the cj starts to widen the gap ecspecially a ported cj.

[@airflow_concepts]

Awesome Thanks for sharing AL.

[@coyotecarguy2076]

FullAutoGT .. ... . Glad you enjoyed it

[@sergebasque8460]

Wow those cobrajet set up on longtube ect... great video AL.

[@coyotecarguy2076]

Serge Basque .. . Thanks i got another one like this on the way

[@19coyote5oh9]

500 at the crank from a 5.0 is definitely awesome!

[@coyotecarguy2076]

19 Coyote 5oh . . . yes my friend these cars rip!

[@alexk7286]

👍

[@coyotecarguy2076]

Alex K . . Thanks Bud!!

[@troydiehl1405]

I like your videos but i have a dynojet in my shop for almost 20 years and never compared the numbers to a mustang dyno, it almost seems like you wish the dyno you use was a dynojet. I know your trying to give the viewers knowledge but the poor guy you dyno at must feel bad when you tell every pull the numbers. Still like your videos though!

[@coyotecarguy2076]

Troy Diehl. . Glad you like the video's bud! Thats what i try to do. .. . we have found through experience with this Mustang dyno that the 12% adjustment is pretty accurate ... in the case of my car when it was in stage one form i made 651 to the wheels on a dyno jet .. . on this mustang dyno the estimated dyno jet was 649 whp. .. this is common on this mustang dyno. . . now i cant speak for other mustang dyno's ... . . but we know this one .. .we also see track times consistent with the est dyno jet figures quite often with a lot of cars. . Thanks for watching Brotha!

[@dakoolguy111]

A coyote isn't making 530whp from just bolt ons and e85 😂

[@coyotecarguy2076]

Thanks for watching

[@jeffhagar9235]

Great video Al. 👊

[@coyotecarguy2076]

Jeff Hagar. . .. .Thanks 👍