See the Difference: Before & After 18 Manifold Upgrade! 2013 6r80 mustang GT

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#TrackTesting #OctaneBoost #EngineBay #AlejandroFlores #FuelTrims
CHAPTERS:
0:39 - Upgrading Donnie's Engine
2:52 - Installing 2018 Manifold
6:27 - Tuning 2018 Manifold
9:23 - First Drive Impressions
12:05 - Morning After Review
13:44 - Race Gas vs Pump Gas Comparison
15:39 - Data Log Analysis
18:18 - Final Thoughts on Upgrades

[@livestrib3752]

Being mad at the radio playing is one of my favorite parts every time 😂

[@olveramelinda]

He wasn’t mad when he was jamming and singing along. To Beyoncé

[@KapcomRacing]

I’m the same way. To radio: “stfu”

[@AndrewBaker302]

Did Donnie's car have cams? If so will you be going with the same ones once you put the new engine in?

[@TTyote]

More s197 content! Teach these kidsssss!! 😂

[@Marine2111usmc]

I second this. I have a 14 I'm trying to build up for boost. Probably a paxton or Ess kit.

[@TTyote]

@@Marine2111usmc do they make the ess kit for gen 1?

[@LsxSosa]

@@TTyotenot yet. But they need too asap

[@AndrewBaker302]

​@@TTyoteESS said they will be releasing one soon

[@Marine2111usmc]

@AndrewBaker302 oh I thought they already had one.

[@Thickercarton]

I’m sick of people just throwing a bunch of parts and making 1k+ hp. I want to see this stuff, tweaking and slowly improving what’s there and seeing the changes, what works and doesn’t. Keep testing!

[@Dizzzy1320]

The UHHH after the order gets me everytime

[@Grabber_GT]

This build reminds me of my 2014 GT.. same color, similar mod path. I am glad my dusty LU47s could be put to use on Donnie.

[@LovesM855A1]

You donated the lu’s?

[@Grabber_GT]

​ @Eroc224 yep. I have been following Alex since before VMP. He is one of the few who gives honest advice and feedback. If he doesn't know the answer, he doesn't bullshit you. He also has been awesome at tuning my current build.

[@DillRust]

something about 11- 14 s197s they hold a special place in my heart

[@169abr]

The main thing for me is the S550 stance crowd doesn’t touch them lol

[@midnight347]

​@169abr this. The type of crowd the s550s draw is what keeps me away that's one of the reasons. I just prefer the older more raw cars with solid axle. That's what I'm used to that's what I like. It's different too nowadays with everyone on the s550 bandwagon lol

[@DillRust]

@@midnight347 I wouldn’t say it’s a bandwagon they are just really good platforms to make a lot of power for cheap and it works very well

[@otto7707]

@07:25 That radio given you some sass during the calibration flashing haha I needed that small laugh after work this last night.

[@ryanpaquette3926]

That intro is 🔥 👍

[@Youngsoldier93]

12:10 what the fuck was that Alex!? 😂😂😂😂😂

[@Stangnation]

Uhhhh😂

[@Youngsoldier93]

@@Stangnation 😭😭😭😭🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@jonasblane2157]

LMAOOOO

[@LovesM855A1]

Alex I don’t care what any troll assholes say about catch cans or anything else if you say it I take your advice period. You work at LUND RACING and have been in the game so long how can you not!! If these trolls want to not follow it then thats on their slow soon to be blown yote. 😂

[@midnight347]

Being in the game a long time doesn't mean you're not full of shit. Many guys out there prove that. Fortunately Alex isn't one of said dudes lol. Alex has honestly about parts and what's works and doesn't it's pretty obvious. It isn't hard to see who knows what's up and who doesn't. I been around as a Ford guy 20+ years long before the coyote existed so I was there and seen it all in real time. It's nice seeing light shined back on these s197s cuz I think many people today underestimate them and don't realize how close they are to the brand new mustangs performance wise for a fraction of the cost.

[@welderteach]

The radio comes on blasting and his torrents instantly kicks in 😂😂😂

[@QtheMisanthrope]

everytime you release a video on donnie it makes me want an s197 more and more

[@erikmohr164]

Can’t wait to see what improvements E85 brings.

[@BrysonWitt]

Damn Sunday video and a show later? Shiittt say less

[@sapperstang]

I have the same car and am debating doing the 18+ manifold, PMAS, and Lund tune. I just can't decide if a ported one is better. I'm not concerned about the price difference. Not sure of future plans except high flow cats and midpipe. Do you think different gears (3.55 or 3.73) would help down low on these cars with a 2018+ intake? Thanks.

[@DikeLover]

Medium hot coffee cream and sugar UHHHHH

[@jakej86]

Love the content. Thank you for calling out all the people saying "you dont need carch cans" unfortunately some people, you cant teach them shit. 🤷🏻‍♂️ I stopped trying to help people a lot time ago because of that lol Love the informative content Alex 🙏🏼

[@MaggieGreen-do3rg]

Lewis Paul Thompson Kevin Williams Linda

[@dareeper166]

Why my NAME!! I’m hoping it REPRESENTS ME!!😆😆😆😆

[@DNAHyperformance]

Great Content! Keep it coming!

[@leonardeswoodfera7277]

Thomas Jessica Taylor Jennifer Johnson Kenneth

[@onthemoney01]

Very Informative.. Thank you!

[@dagneaholiday8112]

Martin Kevin Lee Joseph Smith Frank

[@mcfarlandpa67]

why did you have to re tune it after the 18 mani install? Because of the LU47s?

[@midnight347]

The same ones saying catch cans are snake oil are the ones who swear by upgraded opg on coyotes even on na cars lol. If you dont bounce off the limiter like an idiot, particularly when boosted, you shouldnt have any issues. But yea catch cans are snake oil 😂 ya right

[@williamrivera2906]

12:10

[@Joebauers2505]

I know this is dumb, but since you kinda plan on popping the engine would it be completely stupid of me to ask you at one point run a blower and e85 no fuel system just as an educational piece.

[@RoachTokin5o]

Damn the inside of your engine was more dirtier than mine when I did my manifold swap at 120k miles.

[@flamer38544]

Holy fuck, the gas prices down there are atrocious.

[@Elver_Galarga_jugo]

Who the fuck would argue against a catch can? There is no downside to a catch can lmfao

[@HousmanRita-b3k]

Hall George Harris Karen Williams George

[@malcolmkennedy652]

Lol Jesus what gears are those 3.15? Slow

[@MrHustle82]

Definitely has a bottom 12 in it with the bustelo can on there and no hood.

[@RetroFoxZach]

Alex flexing the Galaxy watch on the poors 😂😂😂

[@jdswag5436]

Start off the sunday with a video from Alex. 🫡 yessir.

[@jmanke6057]

Guess I need a catch can. Especially if you’re going to drive the thing hard. Putting around slow perhaps you don’t but why have to clean throttle blades. Less I have to do to my ride the better if a can helps why not. If you have boost even more so.

[@coyotekelly7143]

Donnie is definitely the right name for the car!

[@razerginn]

Running 12-12.2 everyday at DA 600-1100, e85, steeda cold air , 28x10x17 Hoosier. PB tune stock mani. 11.96 best ever. Im 250 lbs and only take spare tire out.

[@YDBT4LIFE]

@@razerginn LMAO.

[@paulp90]

I toasted my Roush TVS throttle body at 30k miles without a catch can. Haven't had a single issue since installing one (at 72k miles now). Great video, Tio! Love the Donnie build

[@Omega47]

So no one is going to comment on the coffee order moan...alright. LOL

[@kevinkevinson22]

Bro I thought I was crazy he did it last time too 😂💀

[@superscort57]

Great video. Catching people up on the game. 18 mani def great option

[@caseycardenas1668]

Hey Alex, should I throw a ported 18 on my stock 14 6R80 car with 152,000 miles? (I'm being serious) 😅

[@YDBT4LIFE]

Sure

[@caseycardenas1668]

@@YDBT4LIFE it's my daily though I'm not sure if that will change much. In terms of safety for the engine and reliability at that mileage.

[@YDBT4LIFE]

@@caseycardenas1668 it feels better with the stock Mani. But performs better with the gen 3 mani

[@caseycardenas1668]

@@YDBT4LIFE any concerns doing this modification at that mileage? Thanks for your replies!

[@YDBT4LIFE]

@@caseycardenas1668 no concerns you should be ok!

[@slowcobra9263]

I liked the moan at 12:10😂😂😂

[@First_Take.]

I wish i knew the mods you had on this. Iv got a tuned 6 spd manual 2013 gt with an intake, long tube headers, dymo said 427 hp. Ran a 12.5@115mph. Wondering if an 18 manifold would help me, i have the rev limiter set at 7200 just so i can stay in fourth through the gate but it definitely feels like shes lacking up there.

[@YDBT4LIFE]

@@First_Take. I literally say it in the video

[@First_Take.]

​@@YDBT4LIFE thanks for the response. I'm surprised all it had prior was a tune and an intake, with shift points above 7k they say you should be worried about the oil pump gear. Yet you had yours at 7400. Wild.

[@cocacola3269]

I had one of these on my 13 Trac Pac. I could feel the difference on manual.

[@DBeags]

Love the s197 content! Got to meet Justin yesterday and now this video.

[@downhilldaddy5282]

Til now, the tune has made the biggest difference

[@YDBT4LIFE]

@@downhilldaddy5282 headers gained .5

[@boostjunkie27]

Alex trying to keep his taste in music hush hush. 😂

[@Desert1320]

Great editing, really enjoying this build series.

[@johnmellor3116]

What kind of wrist watch is that homie?

[@YDBT4LIFE]

Samsung Smart watch.

[@waltermacknight9299]

Hey Alex i know dynos are just a tuning tool but from experience 90mph in the 1/8th and 114 in the 1/4 would you say that is about 400-415 wheel horse on a full weight s197? Thanks bicho.

[@dholasek]

Might be a bit bias with a sterling grey boss302 swapped track pack car you tuned but love seeing some fresh s197 content.

[@MorePubesMoreBoost]

Yessss. Love me some Sunday morning content.

[@daneaustin2468]

Plus the peasant chat at eight, which is always a riot! 😂

[@that427dude]

So is an 18 manifold the only year that is an upgrade? Or are the 19 and 20 manifolds the same? Also are the “18” mustang manifolds different from “18” F150 manifolds? I know this has been discussed I just haven’t been able to catch a detailed explanation so I apologize. Thanks in advance.

[@AEGarage0299]

It’s called 18+ manifold because 18 up are same for s550 platform and yes the truck 18 manifolds are different

[@169abr]

18+ manifold is any mustang manifold 18-23, F150’s have garbage manifolds from factory and need swapped immediately. If you have a Gen 1 you can also get a Boss mani for much cheaper and you don’t have to fuck with mounts or hood cutting.

[@isaiahnoe2145]

Did you say giveaway for the 18 ported manifold?😩 I’m literally on the same step as you kinda on the same car omg love the content Damnt! 😂

[@Bowman210]

Good morning can I please have a medium hot coffee with cream and sugar? Uhhhh😩😩😩😩😩

[@ReflexGs31]

If there was no video, just audio. I would have thought I was watching WomanDriven with the noises you were making 🤣

[@matthewmcdonald9107]

Love the channel brother. Just pure content for coyote mods. I've settled on getting a 13-14 Coyote 6speed manual. I think they are the best looking of the retro s197.

[@marcasswellbmd6922]

Does anyone remember when a cup of coffee was a dollar?? I could go back further to when a gallon of gas was 79 cents per gallon. God I miss those days 5 bucks got you over 5 gallons.. I'm still blown away everytime I go into wawa for a 16oz coffee and it's over 2 bucks...

[@GarveyMustangMan]

You’re not lying, Catch cans help and have caught a bit of oil vapors in my S550, they are an important mod whether it’s NA or boosted.

[@thereissomecoolstuff]

This channel is getting pretty amazing. This was well done for a quicky video. Great explanations and detail.

[@sn95_mustang_garage]

Black one looks so much better. I know that wasn't why it was changed but changes the engine bay.

[@Elver_Galarga_jugo]

$5.07? That's about what I'm paying in CA now

[@Dryceman]

Loving your content my man

[@mattoliver7650]

👍👍 Awesomesauce!!! I can't even begin to say how much I'm going to reference this video on the need for catch cans. The driving point here, a 70K Coyote of Gen 1 architecture. Exhibit A and people will see you removing the stock mani.

[@Chuck88vert]

Great video. on a gen3 I've got to replace my TB with same but new replacement do I need new tune or will learn throttle angles thanks for the time you put in to bring use these videos.

[@SSecondo1]

Really liking the intro! 🔥 I've seen improved results keeping the CMCV/IMRC plates active. Firms up the bottom end which will lower the 0-60 and 1/4 mile E/T's. Also had the ported '18 mani in my '17 6R80 car, it ran very well! Thanks for the content! 👍

[@OptimusKline-uz1ig]

Alex, you should document the oil change when this thing is due. I know you use Motorcraft! Oil is another one of those things people get so far off the coast with. It's something that I think goes along with this build series!

[@cjmoore7240]

Awesome video! KEEP ON ROCKING! I am living vicariously through you with my S197

[@Smasher-Devourer]

I'm going to have a similar setup in my early S197 Coyote swap so this is very good info. I already have an 18 manifold, 52lb injectors (w/ PBH spacers), longtubes, and its probably going to get nothing but E85. Might get a Circle D converter too.

[@iniguezignacio9]

Mid to low 11s easy 🤙🏼

[@Smasher-Devourer]

@@iniguezignacio9 Not to mention I'm putting in the 11-14 electric power steering rack too, so less parasitic loss.

[@midnight347]

​@@Smasher-DevourerI'm gonna do a gen 2 in my 97 cobra with a ported gen 2 cj and cams and long tubes I'm gonna spin it to 8000 possibly 8300 t56 magnum weight reduction it should only be around 3000 lbs without me in it when I'm done so it's gonna move pretty good. Your setup should go deep 11s at a good track.

[@Smasher-Devourer]

@@midnight347 Yeah, that lighter chassis helps a lot. Plus my car is just a base GT so no extra weight. It even surprises me sometimes with the 3V in it. My 3-1-1 coyote is going to be nuts. 12:1 compression and E85. might slap a blower on it eventually. Gotta see how well my rebuild does NA first. (I've rebuilt a 5.7 Hemi before with success)

[@Clutch_Kick187]

@@midnight347 Make sure you get a good clutch.. if you were to ever miss a shift when your already over 8k.. the motor is gonna be toast.. trust me.. did it to my gen 2.. before getting a Ben Calimer stg3..

[@dnumberone99]

can you list off the current mods you’ve added in the description?

[@williamwilson2303]

Converter into the 11,s free flowing exhaust… i will guess 11.80

[@thatgreenrcsb]

The Ford chime - "I'm a Ford, I'm a Ford"... You can't unhear it now....

[@carlife_710]

Since you invited me over, I ordered the Lund tune from lethals website. The motor is new so hopefully whoever gets my tickets will go over the data to make sure everything mechanical is working right if not back to the dealership she goes so they can fix things. If she’s fine awesome, I’ll start saving up for the whipple this winter for the F150

[@Ondstockz06]

6.29 a gallon here in comiland I just pumped 6 gallons also.

[@ericcopeland5947]

Is this a good guide to follow for a gen 1 f150 rcsb with gt intake cams?

[@Speedfreak_260GT]

Bro with the moan sound effects lol.

[@Rodney606]

If that intro does pump you up I don’t know what would, loving the S197 content

[@MrPrime269]

Very informative content Alex keep it up. I might have to buy a gen 1 and follow your build

[@rayjay8322]

At least I know I'm not the only one that talks crap to my car when I'm working on it!🤣🤣🤣

[@mustangraf]

does 1st to 2nd gear ever feel like it shifts hard for no reason? that is the only "issue" my car has

[@fidelella6549]

Thanks for the S197 content Alex

[@Eddie_Howard]

It would be cool if you could put the price of each mod to see what the build would cost

[@Alex-pl1ye]

Single turbo the s197

[@megaskrilz]

little Asmr action at the start with the manifold lol

[@user-bk5ey9ws5g]

Hi Alex, i had a question about the proflex commander flex fuel kit no tune kit. What are your opinions on this kit and do you think it is safe to run on a 19 gt. I like the concept of not having to tune the car and to be able to run a mix of 93 octane if you can't find e85 without haveing to change maps. I know I'm probably going to get ripped on this but I'm ready LOL

[@YDBT4LIFE]

It's stupid

[@a.wheeler7731]

@5:27 is that screw supposed to be in there?

[@ryandoyle4344]

Manifold is definitely doing work; as you mentioned 29 is great for pump (up from 25-26). Could any of the gains be from 95 fuel? May not be enough octane to matter, but if Donny had 94-95 from 6 gallons of 93 + 1-2 gallons of 100.

[@YDBT4LIFE]

It's possible but no real way of measuring. Mph. Being up consistently on straight 93 over race gas is promising

[@Mark5oohh]

Lmao did you moan when ordering coffee 😂😂😂

[@169abr]

Jesus Christ that price for 93

[@mzs550_]

Which catchcan do you recommend.

[@YDBT4LIFE]

Motion, fathouse, upr

[@pelonpelonete6476]

@@YDBT4LIFEwhat about j&l ?

[@Clutch_Kick187]

@@pelonpelonete6476 If he didn't write it down, he doesn't recommend it.. Just get what he recommends.. There is a reason, mostly due to venting to atmosphere.. Instead of routing it back into the engine..

[@minibikemadman]

the sounds alex makes while pulling hoses and plugs off hahaaha

[@DrewPWebos]

Try Costco pump, trust me.

[@johnginnitti4598]

Awesome content Alex, cant wait to see what it does with a converter

[@TevynSmith]

You moaning ordering coffee dawg?

[@1clean35th]

Let’s see this thing on e85 now

[@mtrefethen1]

Donnie's Party!

[@demarkisdinkins2737]

Jesus I need them to clean my engine bay too.

[@White50.]

Nice .very nice video like always. Could you tell me if you would put a throtle body bbk 1821 would be good or not at all always wonder about that .will it give hp or not.or will you have a diference.

[@YDBT4LIFE]

No need