Cobra Kai and the Truth About Karate | ART OF ONE DOJO

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Art of One Dojo

Art of One Dojo

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@nygroover397
@nygroover397 3 жыл бұрын
Mr. Miyagi was also a war veteran. He's seen and lived through enough death and violence. It shaped his view of life and thus Martial Arts he practiced and taught to his hot-headed student. That's what I got from the franchise and its spin-off.
@TejoAgus
@TejoAgus 3 жыл бұрын
When I heard Tang Soo Do in third season, I instantly thought of this channel and smiled with a sense of victory!
@Bastion83
@Bastion83 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I just wish they had named Goju outright for Miyagi Do.
@Maniac536
@Maniac536 3 жыл бұрын
Me too. I immediately went on this channel and commented about the revelation soon as I saw it
@mnubs7975
@mnubs7975 3 жыл бұрын
Me too! This is an awesome channel!
@petermcnallt12pm
@petermcnallt12pm 3 жыл бұрын
No, Tang Soo Do is Korean, can't just slap karate on it for it to be karate a japanese word and art...also we know COBRA KAI do TSD, Miyagi do is Japanese/Okinawa Karate. Gojo ryu most likely. No victory there.
@TejoAgus
@TejoAgus 3 жыл бұрын
@@petermcnallt12pm the sense of victory was because the discussion about Cobra Kai practicing TSD was "officially" over. It had nothing to do with TSD vs Karate, and it was just a joke.
@sliderx1897
@sliderx1897 3 жыл бұрын
I also like how Daniel makes the remark " I wish all rivalries can end this way"
@ArtofOneDojo
@ArtofOneDojo 3 жыл бұрын
Definitely! The world would be a better place if we could honk each other's noses.
@furrybogard9724
@furrybogard9724 3 жыл бұрын
My favorite part of the 3rd season were the interactions with Chozen and how much he evolved. His dialogue I thought was so vital showing how much he had grown and learned as a person and karate student. Not to mention the nose grab was a nice little touch between them in the show
@Bastion83
@Bastion83 3 жыл бұрын
I liked it too, though I wish they had devoted more than an episode or two to his arc. I used to think Chozen was completely irredeemable. Love knowing that Sato, himself seeing the light, was there for his nephew. Would love to see more of his story fleshed out in later seasons.
@furrybogard9724
@furrybogard9724 3 жыл бұрын
@@Bastion83 That's a good point, and I would love to see more of him. However, I think Chozen will be like Ali and have one episode for their respective characters. The way I see the show is learning and redemption from past mistakes, tying up loose ends, growing as people, and just becoming more complete. Karate Kid began with Daniel and Johnny. I believe it should end with them, and have them both come full circle. The rest of the characters just help them to achieve this. With Chozen and Ali, and Kumiko, don't be sad they're gone, be happy with what we had.
@camiloiribarren1450
@camiloiribarren1450 3 жыл бұрын
I felt so happy when I saw the trailer of S3 because when Daniel was in okinawa and was sparring with Chozen, I was already thinking Chozen was the one to teach daniel kobudo and complete the Miyagi-do style by learning more offensive techniques. Like Chozen said “defense can take many form” and Daniel had to learn the “hard” side to unite it with his “soft” side. I’m glad you agree with that thought
@agnikaineverdies7646
@agnikaineverdies7646 3 жыл бұрын
Looks like u were right about Cobra Kai being tang soo do
@opinionantropologica7639
@opinionantropologica7639 3 жыл бұрын
This video is awesome. They way you analize the split inside the karate that Mr. Miyagi, it is something I never realized
@lewisb85
@lewisb85 3 жыл бұрын
It makes you wonder if Miyagi didn’t teach Daniel the other side of the art because he didn’t know what he was capable of with that knowledge, like Chozen said “maybe he didn’t think you were ready”. It also puts Robbie’s no mercy incident into context now in that it’s not the art to blame but what the person chooses to do with the art.
@ArtofOneDojo
@ArtofOneDojo 3 жыл бұрын
Very possible. I also wonder if Miyagi himself ever learned it. He left when he was 18 and came to America...would his Father have taught him the lethal stuff before 18? Chozen hadn't learned it yet in Karate Kid 2 so Sato clearly showed him later when he felt Chozen was mature enough. I think it's entirely possible Miyagi didn't learn the brutal stuff. Or maybe he did and chose not to teach it after serving in World War II.
@6illyloomer955
@6illyloomer955 3 жыл бұрын
This is a great video to describe how martial arts styles change from generation to generation. I've practiced goju ryu for years, but my style has its differences with the goju ryu practiced in okinawa.
@craigsealy4294
@craigsealy4294 3 жыл бұрын
The Kick where Johnny kicked Daniel in the face on Halloween in KK1 actually did connect.
@ArtofOneDojo
@ArtofOneDojo 3 жыл бұрын
Yup! Nearly knocked him out. They misjudged their distance.
@craigsealy4294
@craigsealy4294 3 жыл бұрын
@@ArtofOneDojo yes so very true.
@kennyderoian8904
@kennyderoian8904 3 жыл бұрын
Great perspective, Mr. Dan. Also, love the backdrop setting.. Mr. Miyagi would approve of the fence and foliage!
@ArtofOneDojo
@ArtofOneDojo 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! It's a tiny, tiny yard and we were also in the process of prepping it for new grass so it was all dirt at the time of filming, so this was quite literally the ONLY usable angle lol. We have grass in there now and it looks better and more future videos will take place outside...but it's still tiny. Can't fix that lol.
@timschmidt1587
@timschmidt1587 2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking as I was watching this video that the art should fit the individual, not the other way around. And what is interesting from what I have experienced is that even in your own style, there are different methods of teaching. Very cool! Thanks for sharing the video. Really enjoyed it!
@setokaiba200x
@setokaiba200x 3 жыл бұрын
Man, awesome breakdown as always. Totally seeing how some of the arts has split over the generations.
@ColneCrusader
@ColneCrusader 3 жыл бұрын
Some lovely points raised in the video. I would suggest - regarding Miyagi-Do Karate - that there are definitely elements of Shito Ryu portrayed in there as well as Goju Ryu but like you say, it's entertainment and there is always room for artistic licence. :0) It's definitely a shame that divisions between styles and arts are so easily developed. We should all come together and learn from each other.
@garycleveland6410
@garycleveland6410 3 жыл бұрын
In many ways, I have learned a lot from the Karate Kid movies. It makes perfect sense that Daniel was taught the softer elements of Miyagi Do/Goju Ryu because he was hot headed. My early training in Tae Kwon Do was focused on the harder elements of training. Now in my early 50's, I have been embracing the softer elements of the arts. Cobra Kai is a very well thought out series.
@tonyforte6053
@tonyforte6053 3 жыл бұрын
Mmmm very good mr dan-son!!! Next video start early 6 o clock!!! It's amazing how the values of the martial arts are forgotten....the way of budo is very important as everyone takes a different path...but it gets all messed up like you said because of politics...I'm in Springfield Illinois and it is terrible here for the karate community
@Anonymous-yh4ol
@Anonymous-yh4ol 3 жыл бұрын
Wow!! This was an amazing and mindblowing video!!!
@laurentgonin04
@laurentgonin04 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your video. Best regards from France.
@isalehyan
@isalehyan 3 жыл бұрын
Now you have to cover Eagle Fang!
@DMaster5062
@DMaster5062 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Mr. Dan!!!
@hanshiraytorres3323
@hanshiraytorres3323 3 жыл бұрын
Watch Karate Kid 2. When the hurricane comes and Chozen refuses to help Daniel save the girl.. Chozen is actually wearing the Goju Ryu patch.
@hancehinerman8099
@hancehinerman8099 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you sir for your explanation 🙏🏼🙇🏼‍♂️🥋
@septred3
@septred3 3 жыл бұрын
If you had a chance to spar with William Zabka sama, and Ralph Macchio sama, I am quite sure that you would win since you teach Kenpo on a regular basis.
@williambreen4290
@williambreen4290 3 жыл бұрын
Goju-ryu karate and tangsoodo are definitely very effective martial arts but can you imagine how different this Saga would be if American Kenpo Karate was the practice! I'm not saying Kenpo practitioners are maniacal or violent! But just a sidekick and reverse punch from traditional styles may not always be enough! But on the other hand there is the Kenpo approach! Seriously a chop to the throat kick to the groin as well as a back knuckle to the temple with an eye poke then a kick to the knee cap is pretty devastating! In comparison to the first traditional Arts mentioned Ed Parker was not fooling around with his formula for self-defense and Kenpo in my opinion is definitely a down and dirty street fighting karate style! I absolutely love American Kenpo! Jeff Speakman actually became a black belt in goju-ryu karate before he took up Kenpo! Can you imagine how horrible it would be to get punched by him back in the day when he was young! With the power and focus from goju-ryu and the lightning speed and pressure point striking from Kenpo!
@ArtofOneDojo
@ArtofOneDojo 3 жыл бұрын
I can imagine it yes. I took a hit from him about 15 years ago and it was the hardest I've ever been hit. Our school was a Speakman school for a while so he came down and beat up on us a bit.
@aaronharris8093
@aaronharris8093 3 жыл бұрын
Really love your videos! Thanks!
@jamielondon6436
@jamielondon6436 3 жыл бұрын
What I disliked a bit about the Karate in season 3 was that it seemed to all be pretty similar, namely aggressive and brutal. It did not really look like distinct styles anymore …
@eLuJanshreds
@eLuJanshreds 3 жыл бұрын
FANTASTIC video 👏
@Maniac536
@Maniac536 3 жыл бұрын
3 questions posed for a future video: 1. [SPOILERS] At the end of s3, Johnny and Daniel agree to train a combined group of students together. However, two sensais, two different arts. How do you train students with TWO arts? I have a Father in Law who told me it is possible to learn multiple arts at the same time, it’s up to the student what they want to use in the moment, but my head spins at just how overwhelming this is to ME let alone young students. Kicks, stances, punches, blocking techniques, all must have their own (for lack of a better word) finesse to them. How do you think Daniel and Johnny can find a middle ground in what they teach? 2. Did any of the items in Chozen’s dojo have any basis in reality (even historical) or were they just props and Easter eggs? 3. Do you think the creators watched your earlier videos on the subject because damn I sure do. [bonus question] where did those nerve strikes come from?
@ArtofOneDojo
@ArtofOneDojo 3 жыл бұрын
I can consider if these can be done in a video, but I have early opinions. 1) I think we're going to see a LOT of conflict between them...Johnny is going to be brash and rude and it's going to rub Daniel the wrong way, but in the end it's similar to him and Chozen...Johnny brings the offense, Daniel has the defense. Their students will be confused, but they'll benefit. 2) I wanted to go back and look more, but I noticed another photo of Chojun Miyagi and also a vase that looks a lot like an urn. If it's an urn...is it Sato? Or is it Miyagi's Father? (He said Sato gave him all of Miyagi artifacts so it could be either one). OR....maybe it's Chozen's Father? Sato was his Uncle, which means Sato had a brother or a sister and we have zero information on Chozen's family. 3) I sure hope so and it FEELS like they are :) Bonus) I think they are some form of Dim Mak techniques.
@Maniac536
@Maniac536 3 жыл бұрын
@@ArtofOneDojo yayyy you answered yayyy that made my day thank you!
@44excalibur
@44excalibur 3 жыл бұрын
Tang Soo Do is basically the Korean version of Japanese Shotokan Karate.
@rxj0765
@rxj0765 3 жыл бұрын
Cobra Kai Karate is obviously Tang Soo do (aka Korean karate) But with John kreese's no Mercy, strike first, strike hard influence on it..also Tang Soo do has Kata, mainly derived from Shotokan Karate, which I don't think cobra Kai practices :)
@ArtofOneDojo
@ArtofOneDojo 3 жыл бұрын
It can still be Tang Soo Do at its base. :)
@rxj0765
@rxj0765 3 жыл бұрын
@@ArtofOneDojo yes, agreed 👍
@kevinruesch2864
@kevinruesch2864 3 жыл бұрын
Does seem there's a contrast between hard and soft defense or passive vs hard and aggressive but this is at the surface level in mastery one surpasses the physical level and all techniques are soft every technique done by a high level master is deadly wether considered hard or soft just controlling the desire for revenge is the lesson mastery over the ego
@theroamer5468
@theroamer5468 3 жыл бұрын
Hiya, been a big fan of your channel (but only just subscribed) Question for you, do you think that you can learn martial arts online? I'm due to test for a coloured belt soon but my country is in another lockdown so all our training is now online. Doesn't feel right. I am considering taking a step back from the belt test and do it properly in the dojo, when we are allowed back. I would appreciate your opinion on this. BTW 'Hiya' is a way we say hello in Scotland. It's not a poor attempt at making a hollywood-esque karate chop noise :D
@diavologiovanna3600
@diavologiovanna3600 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Mr. Dan I was wondering if you can make a video explaining the philosophy of both cobra kai and miyagi do And I wanted to know how realistic is both philosophies to put in both the martial arts and in life Because I wanted to choose the cobra kai philosophy and apply it into my life but people I know think that the cobra kai philosophy is about fighting
@ArtofOneDojo
@ArtofOneDojo 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure I could say more in a video than the show Cobra Kai has already said. The best philosophy is to determine what values are important to you. We could all benefit from being a little bit of both Miyagi do and Cobra Kai.
@diavologiovanna3600
@diavologiovanna3600 3 жыл бұрын
@@ArtofOneDojo thanks and also I know irl tang soo do will teach about defense But I'm mostly good with offensive tactics because my defense sucks Can you give me some pointers on how I can modify tang soo do Into a cobra kai style tang soo do Like more aggressive and offensive That can help in the streets
@guillermoletsworkitout3522
@guillermoletsworkitout3522 3 жыл бұрын
Well it like shorin ryu there is more branches and instead of unity we each other
@ViaVirtus
@ViaVirtus 3 жыл бұрын
So the true question: what will the hybrid “Laurence/LaRusso” Karate look like?
@Kevin_Symmonds
@Kevin_Symmonds 3 жыл бұрын
If Cobra Kai is Tang Soo Do why doesn't Kreese and Johnny call it Cobra Kai Tang Soo Do instead of Cobra Kai Karate?
@jorgep102
@jorgep102 3 жыл бұрын
Are deleted scenes from Cobra kai?
@christopherhasse6684
@christopherhasse6684 3 жыл бұрын
Is Karate effective in a real street fight situation??
@barrettokarate
@barrettokarate 3 жыл бұрын
Depends on the person and situation. Is it one on one or one vs multiple attacker? Are weapons involved? Not everyone who trains in karate or judo or jiu-jitsu or muay Thai will be an effective fighter. You could come from a family of 10 siblings who all train, but that doesn't mean all of you will be good fighters. You could be in 100 street fights and not win all of them. You could be in a street fight and be cool as ice or you could be having a major panic attack.
@coenconradie1680
@coenconradie1680 3 жыл бұрын
Guju ryu and guju Kai is different guju ryu is Okinawan and guju Kai is Japanese.
@ArtofOneDojo
@ArtofOneDojo 3 жыл бұрын
Goju Ryu is an art, and there are both Japanese and Okinawan versions of Goju Ryu. Goju Kai is an organization for Goju Ryu schools. Goju Kai is not its own independent art.
@barrettokarate
@barrettokarate 3 жыл бұрын
@@ArtofOneDojo That's true officially, but Yamaguchi did make his own slight changes to what he taught. Goju-kai tend to practice a little more of the "hard" side. My brother's god-brothers were goju-ryu black belts and when I moved Texas I met a girl who was goju-kai and it was a bit different, especially the kata. One preferred open hand, while the other closed fists. Just small differences like that.
@zakasha55
@zakasha55 3 жыл бұрын
Waiting on the merger. Miyagi-Do with Eagle Fang... This Karate is really not for pussies... Lol...🥋
@efe_aydal
@efe_aydal 3 жыл бұрын
When I saw they mentioned "Tang Soo Do" I said "Ha! I watched a video about it. So it WAS true." Did you consider that the writers actually watch YT videos about Karate Kid and it shapes their writing? Maybe they saw your video, and decided to add that to the show.
@ArtofOneDojo
@ArtofOneDojo 3 жыл бұрын
I do have to wonder. They definitely referenced "Daniel is the Real Bully" KZbin video in the first episode of season 3, so I do wonder (and hope) they watch :)
@jamielondon6436
@jamielondon6436 3 жыл бұрын
It's hard not to get that impression.
@shattereddnb3268
@shattereddnb3268 3 жыл бұрын
I thought about that too! But I think production of season 3 was actually done before the Tang So Do-theories hit YT. Maybe they added more scenes after Netflix got involved though!
@ArtofOneDojo
@ArtofOneDojo 3 жыл бұрын
@@shattereddnb3268 Nope, I posted that analysis in 2018 right after Season 1 and I repeated it again later that same year and I've mentioned it a few times since, well before Season 3 went into production. I also mentioned that Chojun Miyagi was their Grandmaster back in 2018 right after Season 1 and suddenly his picture starts popping up in Season 2 and 3. Hmmmm.... :D
@shattereddnb3268
@shattereddnb3268 3 жыл бұрын
@@ArtofOneDojo Oh, I stand corrected! It would be kinda awesome if AoOD actually did influence Cobra Kai!
@clarencesheets3163
@clarencesheets3163 3 жыл бұрын
I like where Chozen shows Daniel the “Jutsu” of karate-do. In my experience that to often the Dō and sport side of karate is thought or some of the bare basics of karate-jutsu.
@DragonDreamVNY
@DragonDreamVNY 3 жыл бұрын
That's a very good way of describing it 😁
@1888swordsman
@1888swordsman 3 жыл бұрын
Tae Kwon do, Wing Chun, Jeet Kune Do and other arts all have changes or are taught depending on the teacher and what they prefer to teach or not to teach.
@r.moreno3293
@r.moreno3293 3 жыл бұрын
I literally jumped up in excitement when I heard Tang Soo Do and that was my first martial arts I left as a brown belt but had to move to Arizona, but I’m hoping to go back sooner or later to get my first degree right now I’m in Taekwondo working towards my 1st degree as well.
@TejoAgus
@TejoAgus 3 жыл бұрын
Conclusion is that these movies and series are extremely well written!
@ArtofOneDojo
@ArtofOneDojo 3 жыл бұрын
Indeed!
@opinionantropologica7639
@opinionantropologica7639 3 жыл бұрын
I love the way the series has evolved... at the begining, we all thought that it was going to be about Daniel vs Johnny but then, with the introduction of Kreese, we know now that the real battle will be between good karate and bad karate (and I am not talking about in skills, but in value).
@jamielondon6436
@jamielondon6436 3 жыл бұрын
I think the final battle will be between a group of warring karate schools wrecking the neighbourhood and the police. ;-)
@Bastion83
@Bastion83 3 жыл бұрын
Always thought the look on Sato's face in that bar was quite telling. He knew exactly what he was looking at, he also most likely knew he was about to lose that bet.
@ArtofOneDojo
@ArtofOneDojo 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed!
@FreekyDeeky21
@FreekyDeeky21 3 жыл бұрын
Especially the way he honored the bet when Chozen didn't want to.
@JuliannaHolmes
@JuliannaHolmes 3 жыл бұрын
It still bugs me that they call it Miyagi do. It should really be “Miyagi Ryu Karate-Do.”
@barrettokarate
@barrettokarate 3 жыл бұрын
I've said that for years, but Robert Mark Kamen (goju-ryu stylist) called it "do" instead of "ryu" for some reason.
@sliderx1897
@sliderx1897 3 жыл бұрын
Becuase it is the Miyagi way. Not the Miyagi Style Karate way. Miyagi do teaches all aspects of life, not just karate
@shtabs-capitan
@shtabs-capitan 3 жыл бұрын
Miyagi-ha Goju-ryu Karate-Do
@Soldier-of-God.
@Soldier-of-God. 3 жыл бұрын
@@barrettokarate you are absolutely right of which, I believe that he went with the word 'Do' (道) in Japanese meaning the way, as Karate is usually identified in most cases especially in mainland Japan and in the West with the 'Do' rather than that word 'Ryu' (流) which in this context with such a kanji means style. So to call it Miyagi-Ryu Karate would not have sounded so marketable, as does Miyagi-Do Karate. Karate can also be called Karate Jutsu (空手術) literally meaning empty hand skill however again it would not have sounded as marketable, instead reserved for other martial arts styles such Jujutsu, Ninjutsu, Bojutsu and so forth. Even Judo (柔道) which stems from Japanese Jujutsu (柔術) decided to change the last word to 'Do' instead of Jutsu thus instead becoming the 'Gentle Way' Judo, as opposed to its original parent art of Jujutsu meaning 'Gentle Art'. So in the end martial arts styles in Japan would either choose to be either a 'Do' meaning Way, a 'Ryu' meaning style or a 'Jutsu' meaning art based on their creators' personal, philosophical outview to martial arts and so forth.
@NH1973
@NH1973 3 жыл бұрын
What about Miyagi-kan? Or Miyagi-kai? Definitely agree that Miyagi-do is a misnomer.
@brotherchrisrco1125
@brotherchrisrco1125 3 жыл бұрын
You should research where Miyagi began. In Karate Kid 2 and Cobra Kai, they both state that the original Miyagi fell asleep while fishing and woke up on the coast of China and returned ten years later with Miyagi Karate. Their Kata and even the Crane Kick and Drum Technique is very similar to what I learned in Northern Shaolin Kung Fu...
@natalieshannon7659
@natalieshannon7659 3 жыл бұрын
There was clashes In my karate dojo group (there were 4 schools) because of division between the instructors. Some wanted to include Tae Kwon Do techniques into our Tang So Do training. Learn the different kicks and high kicks. Different Katas. Two instructors always got into arguments about it. Sometimes joking, sometimes not. Once said Tae Kwon Do was a sport not an art like Tang So Do. Said it was soft and not practical. The students would be worse fighters because of learning it. One school would make fun of the other school. Told them to change dojo name to Tae Kwon Do. Big waste of time all the in fighting and politics.
@MarioUcomics
@MarioUcomics 3 жыл бұрын
Reminds me of the philosophical differences in the way Ryu looks at fighting with Ansatsuken vs the way Akuma does in Street Fighter lore. Both trained in the same style and focused on different aspects of what they want in martial arts
@Speculativedude
@Speculativedude 3 жыл бұрын
True, but I also think that almost had more to do with Goken, Ryu's teacher. He saw what happened to Akuma and what his obsession turned him into and didn't want that for his students, so like Mr. Miyagi, he chose to be very careful and restrictive about what he taught.
@mnubs7975
@mnubs7975 3 жыл бұрын
I think one of the reasons why Mr. Miyagi chose the softer side of the art is because of his military service. He was a WW2 veteran, a MOH recipient, and even said in the first movie when he was drunk that Miyagi kill many Germans. After all that, I am sure he didn’t want live a life of aggressiveness. Even more so the fact that he lost his wife and son while he was at war.
@TheInfantry98
@TheInfantry98 3 жыл бұрын
War changes you
@WImob420
@WImob420 3 жыл бұрын
Miyagi was most likley a buddist(the next karate kid) who fought in WW2, he saw or did stuff that effected him to be More passive. They did get the history right about Okinawa having to be brutal Vs invading forces. Love your break down!!
@hngryviirider8710
@hngryviirider8710 3 жыл бұрын
I loved this video :D I think everyone could feel what is it about. Just walk into a different dojo from the same style you learn :D It happened to me when I went to university and wanted to continue my Shotokan training so I looked up for one and had a class in that town... Gosh it was like a different art!
@unknowninfinium4353
@unknowninfinium4353 3 жыл бұрын
Sensei, after your videos I started to read more about Kyokushin. Including the infamous Kyokushin vs Muay Thai. While reading and watching videos I came across a karate style called Ashihara (hope I spelt it right) Karate. I wanted to bring your notice to it.
@Shin_Akumi
@Shin_Akumi 3 жыл бұрын
I agree, chozen n daniel are very traditionalist, so their karate would be almost identical. Only their teaching would differ. Spolier alert Their fight scene was good, and the way chozen grabbed daniels nose and hinked was a nice nostalgic moment from KKpart2.
@Maniac536
@Maniac536 3 жыл бұрын
Oh my god that nod Sato gave, you’re right he KNEW that move!
@peterkhew7414
@peterkhew7414 3 жыл бұрын
Whether a martial art is hard or soft, it depends on the personality of the practitioner. Most of the time, a teacher will pass down techniques that are suited for his students, whether in physique or mindset. Sometimes, the art becomes softer due to life experience. If you are still hard-headed pass a certain age, you will some difficulties getting along and dealing with others in daily life.
@rustymullins4872
@rustymullins4872 3 жыл бұрын
Great video! I personally have taken taekwondo from two different masters that share the same grandmaster and it is a 180 degree difference in how things are taught
@rubenrelvamoniz
@rubenrelvamoniz 3 жыл бұрын
Real life skill that the division of martial arts styles and schools teaches. Politics.
@klearlyclouds
@klearlyclouds 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve been waiting for this
@natalieshannon7659
@natalieshannon7659 3 жыл бұрын
Another thing I love about Cobra Kai is how they address the martial arts and the issue of cultural appropriation. When Daniel got roasted for his commercial, he got called a racist! I've had this happen to me! I took Tang So Doo which is Korean. I had a Korean flag in my apartment. Had a flag on my Gi. SJW's would accuse me of "cultural appropriation." Told me I had no right to Korean marital arts because I was white! I was stealing their culture! SMH! Also when Chozen at first got angry when Daniel wanted to look at the scrolls. "You can't have that, you're a foreigner." This happens in real life also. Some Koreans visited my dojo and they were doing katas and sparing techniques I never saw before. Some were lower belts than me. I asked my instructor if we would be taught that. He said no, only the Koreans learned that. I was lucky to even watch them train! Let alone have them teach me their "secret" techniques."
@wendellbenedict4793
@wendellbenedict4793 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for commenting about the Shotokan differences between Gichin and Gigo Funakoshi. I often wonder if Gichin felt forced to change. Looking at old books of Shotokan there are big changes in what he originally taught and what the art became. I know a large part of the changes came from Gigo and students. But I feel that changes were made to possibly get more acceptance in Japan. It's interesting though that this didn't seem to occur in Shito Ryu, Goju Ryu, or Motobu Ryu. BTW if you can do a video on the fighting style of Choki Motobu. Some of his applications remind me of WW2 Combatives. Wanted to let you know that I know that people have criticized you in the past about your weight. It's unfortunate that they have made these comments. I wanted to let you know that you look like you have slimmed down and getting in great shape.
@fijiunlimited4503
@fijiunlimited4503 2 жыл бұрын
Great breakdown tying in real life examples, such as Gichin Funakoshi and his son emphasizing aspects of Shotokahn that matches their individual preference.
@wendellbenedict4793
@wendellbenedict4793 3 жыл бұрын
From one fan of Cobra Kai to another I agree with your assessment. Ali is right Johnny and Daniel are more alike than different. Yes they are learning to get along. Daniel going to Okinawa was important to recenter himself and to learn. There is only one Karate and there are many Karates. How can this be, one might ask. We all practice Karate in that all contain stances, blocks, strikes, etc. We might practice what is called a style such as Goju Ryu, Tang Soo Do, etc. But ultimately whatever type of style we train in we eventually have our own individual style that forms over time. This style will be your's and your's alone. This is a natural part of life. Think of how water continues to branch off into smaller and smaller sections. Think of how what you learned from your parents was a combination of what each parent learned from there two parents. If you marry and have a child then that child will learn knowledge, ways, and traditions from both you and your spouse. This will go on and on.
@diablovegas7686
@diablovegas7686 3 жыл бұрын
Hmmm... I think the biggest point that is missed is the bullying factor, and the fact that the art is for defense. Bullying is a huge problem problem in our "society" currently, and especially on the Internet. Even though there are laws making it a felony, law enforcement agencies seem not to care.
@seadawg93
@seadawg93 3 жыл бұрын
I appreciated the consequences of actions too. I got frustrated with how good and how quickly the kids all got though. I thought Karate Kid was more realistic in that regard (one, highly motivated, private student gets good enough quickly to compete and eek out a the win.)
@ninjaspam2000
@ninjaspam2000 3 жыл бұрын
You need to do two more cobra kai videos. One that really digs into the dichotomy of mindset that is expressed between Miagi do and Cobra kai. Miagi do having the mindset of martial arts for peace time and Cobra kai having the mindset of martial arts for war. Because if you strip out the the technique and skill all you are left with is mindset. The cool thing about this subject is they are both right and both wrong. Because if a man cant stand, can't breathe, or can't see they can't fight. And when you are fighting for your life against multiple opponents you don't have time to not be ruthless. But in peace time being ruthless and lethal are completely unnecessary and overkill. This mindset is prevalent between not only the dojos but also the dealerships and translates into the business tactics and even use of law. The other is the bad decision paradox. Where every bad decision seems to not only delay resolution, but also leads into more conflict later. And emphasize the most important battle is the one between your ears. You can even use enough and red belt as reference sources.
@slashandbones13
@slashandbones13 2 жыл бұрын
That makes sense because a lot of the show is about the current generation being effected by the conflicts of the past generation. There is four generations if you count Miyagi's father and Kreese and Silver's commander.
@Brisingr2207
@Brisingr2207 3 жыл бұрын
Goju Ree-U please 🥺 good call on those calls. I loved your previous theory videos ! Please keep 'em coming 😃
@Rex-golf_player810
@Rex-golf_player810 3 жыл бұрын
I agree with the whole chozen and daniel are the actual foils as opposed to johnny thing They study an even more closely related (perhaps even the same) style yet were opposites in how they approached it Although i will say that both kreese AND sato could be foils to miyagi (at least before sato and miyagi made up)
@RickyS08
@RickyS08 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome job man! Particularly, about the soft and hard sides of karate with Miyagi and Sato
@blackmantis6443
@blackmantis6443 3 жыл бұрын
Man you hit it right on the bruh. It's the same thing in Kungfu after a grandmaster passes away there's always a division. I dislike this. One love
@Mr_Tony_gaming
@Mr_Tony_gaming Жыл бұрын
“Someday you do own way”. Loved the video, that quote came to mind as soon as you mentioned teachers changing their art and taking what works for them
@hi-q2261
@hi-q2261 3 жыл бұрын
They don't use DO in Okinawa they just call karate Uichy Ryu for example
@mike393000
@mike393000 3 жыл бұрын
Very inciteful! Very observant! Ty for showing me what I didn't see in the movies.
@kevinruesch2864
@kevinruesch2864 3 жыл бұрын
I still believe the origin of karate is white crane boxing its splintered from shaolin kung fu like many other styles as it traveled different directions it took on different methods and shapes different masters performed different techniques which they become famous for so naturally the style was named after them
@brotherchrisrco1125
@brotherchrisrco1125 3 жыл бұрын
Good observations and Annalis...
@seadawg93
@seadawg93 3 жыл бұрын
I loved the first video so much about the styles, I wondered while watching Cobra Kai wether or not they were influenced by it.
@granadosvm
@granadosvm 3 жыл бұрын
You make good points. I've learned a lot about my own style by cross-training.
@mizukarate
@mizukarate Жыл бұрын
Systems are like underwear.....most people wear them.
@DanishARMA2
@DanishARMA2 3 жыл бұрын
i used to train kyokushinkai and later taekwondo i find when mixing them it's baaad ass
@DanishARMA2
@DanishARMA2 3 жыл бұрын
it also helped out one of my kids
@JasonRainwater
@JasonRainwater 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for sharing your thoughts on how the martial arts evolve through each individual practitioner. Even within the same style, my own dojo, I have observed from experience how different teachers have their own particular set of values from the art which they tend to focus on or favor when instructing a class. I feel like this is how it should be when we become experienced in the art and begin to make it a part of who we are, it's only natural. I'm still hyped about Cobra Kai, and re-watching it again, because I learn so much from the lessons, and the show itself is really inspiring! But it extends beyond just being a great martial arts show, being entertaining enough for any casual viewer to enjoy and gain something from. I can't tell you how many non martial artists I've gotten to watch the show, and they all love it!! So being a karate ka, I feel a special connection with the show. Anyway, it's awesome you made another video related to the Cobra Kai series! I love your Miyagi Do shirt btw! Gonna have to get me one!
@isaacyeon6334
@isaacyeon6334 3 жыл бұрын
Yo this video was posted on my birthday, also a very great analysis video. Subbed
@darkapostate8358
@darkapostate8358 3 жыл бұрын
Miyagi's father would be the Soke, head of family/ryuha, not the grandmaster. The split between Chozen and Daniel is that of Jutsu and Do, the art and the way. Jutsu is concerned with warfare, martial application, whereas Do is more about character, self improvement, and self defense. The goal is different, the tools are similar. Having studied, and taught, both Do and Jutsu of the same art, I must say that they are functionally similar but produce drastically different martial artists. This is in regards to the outlook and performance of the practitioner. Contempararily both versions are generally firm in their curriculum and style, hesitant to take techniques from others even if they are effective. Though in practice is is the students of Jutsu who readily learn from other styles to achieve their goals. This goes back to the mindset and end goals, self improvement and defense versus lethal efficiency.
@clarencesheets3163
@clarencesheets3163 3 жыл бұрын
I am glad that you have taught both the Art and the Way of your style. In the school I belong to we have spent to many years on the way and not covering the Art, our master and Soke is old and not in very good health, and fell that we may lose the Art. Their are some of us that are trying to piece the Art back together from old students and schools my school came from.
@darkapostate8358
@darkapostate8358 3 жыл бұрын
@@clarencesheets3163 It can be difficult learning jutsu from sensei who either don't know it well themselves, or disagree with the mindset. I struggled, and still do, with keeping my do calm and stylized, too much concern for nage waza and aggressive ki . If you and your fellow students have managed to recapture the old ways, I congratulate you. That is no easy task.
@ArtofOneDojo
@ArtofOneDojo 3 жыл бұрын
This is an interesting perspective and I agree with you completely. I'm in a little bit of a self journey on this. I mentioned in another video that I was exploring the Kenpo "Freestyle" techniques because they are more of an offensive set of combinations instead of defensive. I've always felt my offense and advancing techniques were lacking compared to my defense so I'm experimenting with it and trying to practice more aggressive concepts.
@hmoniemiller1691
@hmoniemiller1691 3 жыл бұрын
Hi mr.dan could you please review an "ultimate shotokan movie", also keep up the amazing videos
@ArtofOneDojo
@ArtofOneDojo 3 жыл бұрын
Do you have a recommendation for a movie that represents Shotokan the best?
@markl1942
@markl1942 3 жыл бұрын
@@ArtofOneDojo "kill and kill again"... typically cheesy plot like most martial arts movies.. despite the title no one gets killed. Lots of good shotokan karate. Was recommended to me by my sensei.
@MountainAdventures1
@MountainAdventures1 3 жыл бұрын
No matter what style we begin our training in, we each evolve into our own martial artist. We usually don't become just like our instructor, instead we focus on certain aspects of their teachings more than others, and along the way we pick up techniques that they were never exposed to. We might attend seminars with other instructors, or train at other schools or in other styles, so over time we differentiate. One area where this is very noticeable is in the form Bassai (Bassai Dae). Many styles and schools teach this form, each in their own way, but ultimately it is considered a "personal expression" form, where each student performs it a little differently, and that's okay. That shows the martial artist they are developing into.
@namazuryusshugyo5214
@namazuryusshugyo5214 3 жыл бұрын
Great message to pass along for sure! every martial arts have their recipes but its the chefs that makes it their own dish :D
@watchparty1
@watchparty1 3 жыл бұрын
Great video. Your analysis of the arts really fleshes out the show and makes it all more enjoyable to watch.
@ArtofOneDojo
@ArtofOneDojo 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Also...I just now noticed your avatar....I just referred to a post you questioned the writers about on Twitter in this new Cobra Kai episode coming up. You picked up on the same thing!
@watchparty1
@watchparty1 3 жыл бұрын
@@ArtofOneDojo awesome! Looking forward to it.
@ABCDEF-uz9fd
@ABCDEF-uz9fd 3 жыл бұрын
I clicked this faster than Danny’s crane kick 🏗 🦵
@belikewater2413
@belikewater2413 3 жыл бұрын
May I just say, your explanation, knowledge, and humility are so very refreshing... I offer you my full respect sir... OSU, Jeff Kyokushin 🥋
@ArtofOneDojo
@ArtofOneDojo 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Sir!
@jasonvaello3568
@jasonvaello3568 3 жыл бұрын
I just began my Karate journey a few months back, so pardon my question if the answer is obvious. Miyagi Do is pretty much Goju Ryu but Chozen uses a much more aggressive version of it. Almost like Shotokan which I'm studying now. The mix of Shotokan and Goju Ryu from my understanding is Kyokushin. Could Myagi Do be a variant of Kyokushin?
@ArtofOneDojo
@ArtofOneDojo 3 жыл бұрын
It's an interesting question, but Shotokan is Japanese and Goju Ryu Okinawan, Mas Oyama combined the two for Kyokushin, but Kyokushin is much newer and was founded officially in 1964. Miyagi would have already learned his family Karate, fought in World War II and be back in the states by that point.
@agnikaineverdies7646
@agnikaineverdies7646 3 жыл бұрын
Hypothetically speaking, if I opened up a dojo called cobra kai, could I be copyrighted
@ArtofOneDojo
@ArtofOneDojo 3 жыл бұрын
Interesting question...it would depend on if the name "Cobra Kai" was trademarked under the class of Karate Dojo. It's trademarked for movies and TV, but it would also have to be registered in the field of martial arts as well. That being said, there actually IS a Karate school out there using the name and logo so that makes me wonder if THEY grabbed the trademark for martial arts or if they are paying a licensing fee.
@pizzamax21
@pizzamax21 3 жыл бұрын
Great video!
@jeffreywright2294
@jeffreywright2294 3 жыл бұрын
Thank u Mr Dan !
@dennisrivera9621
@dennisrivera9621 3 жыл бұрын
Great show and lots of info, I wonder do you ever consider visit Dojos in the U.S.A and make interviews and see their teaching ways and their thoughts. Of course after all this Pandemic is gone. Just brain storming , Continue your great job....Oss
@ArtofOneDojo
@ArtofOneDojo 3 жыл бұрын
Yes! This was actually something we were getting ready to do last March...right as the pandemic hit and we had to put the idea on hold, but yes, it is something we want to do for sure.
@realtsavo
@realtsavo 3 жыл бұрын
A buddy and I have been talking about starting up a new podcast to cover the Karate Kid and Cobra Kai from a more in-depth lore perspective, going into the history, background, and culture behind the series. We also plan to really cover the fighting and philosophies behind Miyagi-Do and Cobra Kai. If you're at all up for it, would you be interested in joining us for a future episode?
@ArtofOneDojo
@ArtofOneDojo 3 жыл бұрын
Talk about Karate Kid???? You Betcha! Shoot me a message on Facebook facebook.com/artofonedojo or through email, f2b@f2bpro.com
@jfearless3420
@jfearless3420 3 жыл бұрын
I still liked the theory that Sato taught Kreese and Silver. Ive taken Tang Soo Do for 10 years. Ive accepted that Cobra Kai is supposed to be Tang Soo Do, but it doesnt look anything like it. Also, Kreese refers to his school as a dojo instead of a dojang. Tang Soo Do practicioners dont refer to their school as a dojo. Tang Soo Do has very specific stances. None of them are seen in the Karate Kid movies or Cobra Kai. There are also specific hand techniques in TSD like neck attack, knife hand, and middle knuckle punch. None of the Cobra Kai practioners do any of those techniques. All I see is jabber punch.
@agnikaineverdies7646
@agnikaineverdies7646 3 жыл бұрын
It’s a Hollywood version
@jfearless3420
@jfearless3420 3 жыл бұрын
True. Just annoying that whenever i watch fights (real or fake) the practicioners seldom do anything that resembles their art.
@ArtofOneDojo
@ArtofOneDojo 3 жыл бұрын
It does look a LITTLE bit like it sometimes. I did a side by side in one of the episodes. kzbin.info/www/bejne/eaWcdaR_p9V0p80
@mike.richardson678
@mike.richardson678 2 жыл бұрын
It's not traditional Tang Soo Do. It's American Tang Soo Do. It came out of the Chuck Norris schools in California.
@peterblair4448
@peterblair4448 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic!
@Soldier-of-God.
@Soldier-of-God. 3 жыл бұрын
Good to see that your styles hypothesis, on which both Cobra Kai and Miyagi-Do Karate, are both based, proved to be decisively correct, by the Cobra Kai series show creators Sensei Dan! I wonder if in a future episode, you might do a review of the first 'No Retreat No Surrender ' film, then compare it to the first Karate Kid film as well. The reason why I mentioned it, is because No Retreat No Surrender, with Jean Claude Van Damme, Kurt McKinney and the legendary Karate and world kickboxing champion, Pete 'Sugarfoot' Cunningham, was pretty much an indirect remake of the Karate Kid film part one, however with a Hong Kong martial arts action crew, directed by Corey Yuen Kwai who was responsible for the action scenes of the Matrix films with Keanu Reeves. Though somewhat cheesy with supposedly Bruce Lee's ghost coming back to teach the film's main protagonist, against the film's main bullies, prior to him facing the true villain of the film at the end, martial arts wise, it embarrasses the Karate Kid films. My let down with the Karate Kid films and current Cobra Kai series, though I do enjoy them immensely from a dramatic, storyline perspective, the action sequences have never been to my satisfaction. So as is usually the case with Hollywood A grade action films, the so called action or martial arts sequences have always been atrocious, while Hong Kong, Japanese, Thai etc action films, along with Hollywood B grade action films the martial arts usually superb, while the acting just acceptable. For me personally the Karate Kid and Cobra Kai series, always lacked the perfect balance between dramatic dialogue, along with visually enthralling, superb martial arts choreographed sequences. Looking forward to your following Karate Kid films and Cobra Kai related videos, Osu!🇲🇽🇦🇺🙏🥋👍✌🤟😊
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