I've flown the A350 across the pacific and returned on the 777 and I found a striking commonality between them. This video makes sense of it all. The 350 is a massive plane. It looks small from the outside due to its styling but it is massive! Cheers!
@holdensv20004 жыл бұрын
the A350 is 12 years younger built with more composites better wings and more powerful engines better fly-by-wire systems it a no brainer that why Delta and more American Airlines will pick later
@rel64384 жыл бұрын
Richard Reid American Airlines did not choose the a350, United and Delta airline did
@AA-tz2bm4 жыл бұрын
Rel pretty sure United is 787 territory
@AA-tz2bm4 жыл бұрын
Literally all variants
@RM-xt6kk4 жыл бұрын
@@rel6438 among us carriers... there is another american airlinesthat have the a350 on order
@davidlisowski52454 жыл бұрын
The easy way for me to remember it is that the a350 replaces the a340 models, which competed with the 777ERs.
@maxosiatynski998710 ай бұрын
I thought the a330 originally competed with the 767?
@priyam35210 ай бұрын
@@maxosiatynski9987 yes and the 767 got replaced by the 787 sp now a330 is competing with 787
@BasilPunton10 ай бұрын
When the 787 was first announced there was no model number. It was written up as a B330 by many due to the obvious size similarities. This video is trying to make people realise that the upgraded A330 and the B787 are aimed at the same market.
@BasilPunton10 ай бұрын
@@maxosiatynski9987The B787 was released to compete with the A330 which had been in production for several years.
@davidlisowski524510 ай бұрын
@@maxosiatynski9987 a330-200 competed with the 767-300 and the a330-300 matched up with the 777-200. The a340 variants competed with 777-ER models.
@johncollier6084 жыл бұрын
Actually, Coby that was very informative. And yes, I was one of those who assumed the A350 and 787 we're direct competitors. I have now changed that view. On looks alone the A350 get my vote but to be fair, I've not flown either, so I'm not exactly in a position to judge. Thanks for the video.
@SierraDelta-4 жыл бұрын
inspector morse the seats depend on the airline
@poggoslayer_0154 жыл бұрын
@ do you know that different airlines have different comfort, some airlines just slap highly uncomfortable seats on their plane and call it business class while others focus in the comfort of their passengers. Tbh i prefer the 787
@ant23124 жыл бұрын
@@SierraDelta- nearly all airlines kit out 787 economy as a 3-3-3 when it was designed as a 2-3-2 so you can shut up
@SierraDelta-4 жыл бұрын
Ant as I said before the comfort depends on the airline, not Boeing ad what’s the need to be rude?
@SierraDelta-4 жыл бұрын
Ant the First guy said “the seats are better in the a350” so I was simply just letting him now that it’s not boeing that controls the comfort but the airline, so you cant base your review on the plane of off comfort cause the comfort is dependable on the type of airline not the plane, so now you look stupid
@Warp__4 жыл бұрын
A350 vs 777 A330Neo vs 787 It's not that hard
@RossTheLoss4 жыл бұрын
No
@johnhenry67624 жыл бұрын
Go back to the early 2000's so you'll know how the A350 came to be a competitor to the then brand new B787 on the scene at the time. "Cody" doesn't seem to mention that detail in his presentation. The A350 grew in size in time to drift into 777 territory to what people think about competing types from Boeing and AIRBUS. ORIGINALLY: 787 vs A350-800. Then the scene changed with the A350-900 and the A350-1000 even though the A350-900 was going against the B787-9 for a time until "XWB" titles started appearing with stretches of the A350 series. This column is meant for "Warp's" statement above. I meant to add: the A330 series started competing with B777s when Boeing got cleared to operate under ETOPS and in turn AIRBUS's A340s went bye and better versions of the A330 came into play against the 777 series of aircraft. A330s vs B777s. A350s vs B787s.
@GeorgeBot74 жыл бұрын
@@johnhenry6762 He literally did mention this in the video. DId you just not watch from 1:45?
@johnhenry67624 жыл бұрын
@@GeorgeBot7 Which video- first or the second one? In your reply tell me you heard the "A350-800 " mentioned. The first or second video?!
@747simmer44 жыл бұрын
John Henry he didnt but he did say what you said about them being originally meant to compete against each other
@leezinke43514 жыл бұрын
Both of them looks beautiful in their own way.
@auggith4 жыл бұрын
I think the 787 is more beautiful than the a350. Those smooth curves that just flow together are incredible
@khaledbhr.x46284 жыл бұрын
Mateo Botha yessss
@nid4u4 жыл бұрын
That's what my ex said comparing me to her current bf
@auggith4 жыл бұрын
Nidhin Reji that hurts. Mine is probably saying that to his new BF about me😞
@thetransponder71864 жыл бұрын
Yall will hate me it's just the a350 looks better. The wings look cooler and what other airliner wears a sweet pair of shades.
@smoosty_4 жыл бұрын
Anybody gonna admit that the 787 “Dreams Take Flight” livery is like, one of the most hottest liveries?
@cameronstone43234 жыл бұрын
Well yeah...it only existed for one airshow then was repainted and delivered to Biman Bangladesh in their standard livery
Thank you! I’ve spent years trying to convince my avgeek friends of this, but I was always alone in the argument. Now that I’ve got a KZbin channel on my side it will be much easier 😎 P.S. to answer your question at the end, the A350 is my favourite plane overall so I’ll have to go with that one!
@CathAir29064 жыл бұрын
same here
@eddiecharles64574 жыл бұрын
Hope this video knocks some sense into them. I've flown on the B777-300 ER, A350-900, and the B787-9.... They're all beautiful. What matters most is the airline service. Fly on a shitty airline, and the plane types wouldn't matter.
@Speedster___3 жыл бұрын
Cough PIA cough
@Editorwithchai3 жыл бұрын
@@Speedster___ sadly yes, PIA has gone from +stronk to -stronk :(
@javahedz4 жыл бұрын
I hope this satisfies those less-informed. I loved my flights on AirCanada’s 787, and would indeed love a trip on an A350 too. Published customer reviews seem to give the nod to the A350 as far as “comfort and customer experience”. Like you, I await the opportunity.
4 жыл бұрын
You wont be dissapointed with A350, its great
@brandonking17374 жыл бұрын
I've flown to Vancouver-Taipei roundtrip twice, once on an Air Canada 787, and once on a China Airlines A350 (same flight, too, Vancouver to Taipei). I would have to say I liked the A350 better for the most part, although it may be just me liking the airline better. However, I much prefer the windows on the 787, they are much larger and I like the dimming that still lets you kind of see out of them.
@ant23124 жыл бұрын
@@brandonking1737 the still being able to see out of the dimmed windows is exactly what i dont like about them, prefer blinds
@dufonrafal4 жыл бұрын
Yep, with almost everybody going 9 abreast on the 787, passenger confort took a huge hit in economy.
4 жыл бұрын
@@dufonrafal Yes its getting bad, smaller aircraft trying to cram in ever more seats.
@jacobyepiz56954 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU!!! This shows the difference between just common aviation enthusiast, and the people who truly understand the aviation industry, market trends, and capability differences. Also, I prefer the 787 when it comes to looks, size, and usefulness to airlines, but I have not flown on the A350 yet, so I could not truly say which one I like better.
@alphabravoindia52674 жыл бұрын
A330neo vs 787 A350 vs 777X Just compare their specifications..
@ambergris57054 жыл бұрын
It's exactly that.
@sulil19384 жыл бұрын
A350 vs 777??
@chounphounsanoy2914 жыл бұрын
A350 vs 777
@edricklawrenceong77764 жыл бұрын
@@chounphounsanoy291 The 777-X would pretty much slide the 777 series out of the A350s target market though. It's designed to accommodate 426 in a 2-class configuration, those are pretty much 747 numbers, the largest A350, by comparison, the A350-1000, is only optimized for 369 passengers, heck, even the much smaller 777-8 beats the A350-1000 in terms of capacity at 384 passengers. The A350 is a good competitor for the 777-Classic but it's simply too small to compete with the 777-X.
@sorin_ea64 жыл бұрын
Trekkie_ _0802 the A350 is a good aircraft to fill the gap between the Dreamliner and A330, and the 777X
@postingbmwm34 жыл бұрын
As someone who flew on both the a350 and b787, I would say that I prefer the a350. It is much quieter than the b787 and the seats are more comfortable for passengers in economy. As passengers, the a350 is unarguably better. If we were to compare both aircrafts specs, then that wouldn't be fair because they were both made for different purposes (as you said).
@DRthistle Жыл бұрын
I agree completely on the passenger experience.
@johnconnor4953 Жыл бұрын
My thoughts exactly.
@BoiiGorg3ous6 ай бұрын
However, passanger comfort was is on that of the Airlines
@cazgur15374 жыл бұрын
Ok i will let you explain
@PDZspotting4 жыл бұрын
finally someone agreeing. you cant compare a 300 seater plane with a 200 seaters
@texxon33553 жыл бұрын
Are we talking about the smallest version of the a350 or the longest version?
@frutdafruit Жыл бұрын
@@texxon3355 both A350 variants seat above 300 on average
@CaptainCroissant4 жыл бұрын
Finally, someone agrees!!
@holdensv20004 жыл бұрын
Please go Airbus the A350 is 12 years younger built with more composites better wings and more powerful engines better fly-by-wire systems it a no brainer that why Delta and more American Airlines will pick later
@holdensv20004 жыл бұрын
@@77l96 no I am just a concerned citizen trying to put people on their guard when they choose to fly for vacation or any other thing Boeing has lost their way and they just do a thing about safety when building an aircraft so the next Airplane company is Airbus with a better reputation and safety record it is the way to go and come back alive
@markchang83302 жыл бұрын
@@holdensv2000 lol really? Airbus also has a lots of crash records. Boeing seems dangerous only because they sell more aeroplanes. And also, an aeroplane which is younger doesn't mean it is "better". I like your comment, it is really funny, like a airbus promoter and propaganda. Aviation lover should love both Airbus and Boeing because they are really similiar nowadays.
@markchang83302 жыл бұрын
@@holdensv2000 Also, tell you something you might refuse to listen. If Boeing break through all the issues and troubles they have right now, they gonna win this competition. You know what? Objectively, Boeing has better technology and technical ability and reserve than Airbus.
@holdensv20002 жыл бұрын
@@markchang8330 I don't know where you get that info from Boeing is in a deep hole with no way to get out and most Airlines are moving away from them they just can't be trusted no the FAA so it is the EASA and Airbus is the only way to go even China that has the biggest Airlines in the world won't want Boeing in there country so please stick a fork in it if people don't want you you are lost
@ravil43883 жыл бұрын
I just flew on the A350 from Bengaluru to Paris. I have flown on the 787 a lot before. There is no comparison. The 787 is a wonderful flight, but the A350 is a game changer. It was the most comfortable flight I have ever taken. It is quite literally the rolls royce of the skies.
@NidgeOSullivan2 жыл бұрын
I've seen a few trip reports on the a350 and my God it's like a helium balloon it just glides as if there was nothing there, landing even more incredible, turbulence, what's that??
@bruceketcheson48772 жыл бұрын
I would say that about the a380, nothing like it
@rjharikumar6555 Жыл бұрын
Eh, the 787 is a game changer in its own right too, considering how it's allowed airlines to operate previously thin routes profitably.
@kaiparker77574 жыл бұрын
thank you ive been trying to tell people this for ages lol
@TheRtHonPMSirLDOBSON4 жыл бұрын
Not the only one lol
@SL-vg6lv4 жыл бұрын
Same dude
@atreyu69764 жыл бұрын
Me too
@Utd_YT4 жыл бұрын
Same.
@TurtleRailTSR4 жыл бұрын
Aviation6 Caught cha
@PlaneSpottingBerlin4 жыл бұрын
Very well done mate! A350 is the winner for me. However it also depends on how many seats an airline craps into the aircraft :D
@holdensv20004 жыл бұрын
Good choice man a winner is safety and Technolgy 10 year better
@aseem7w94 жыл бұрын
@@holdensv2000 lol i can hear your happy european noises
@Amrdau4 жыл бұрын
A350 vs 777?
@aseem7w94 жыл бұрын
@@Amrdau A350 comes nowhere close to 9 abreast 777. But unfortunately that's not very common.
@measin1094 жыл бұрын
A350 is a bit cooler than the 787
@surtrgio4 жыл бұрын
Finally someone got it right lol.
@gcm7474 жыл бұрын
When I first flew on the Dreamliner, I was surprised at how ‘small’ the cabin was (in terms of seating capacity). It immediately became clear that it wasn’t an A330 competitor and in turn wasn’t an A350 competitor. Great video. Thanks for clarifying the matter.
@ant23124 жыл бұрын
what I will say seeing as I've flown on both - Eitihad 787, Finnair and Qatar A350 is that the A350 is more comfortable because XTRA WIDE BODY. 787's were designed as a 2-3-2 but nearly every airline fits them out as a 3-3-3 thus meaning a 17 inch seat width as opposed to the 3-3-3 on the A350 XTRA WIDE BODY which has 18 to 18.5 inch seat width in economy. Thats how I know when people saying they prefer the 787 are probably Americans who have never flown on either and just lying and just making stuff up to defend Boeing
@w8stral4 жыл бұрын
No, the 787's were not designed as 2-3-2. That was the 767 a much narrower airplane. 787 is same width as the a330, good for 8 wide. 2-4-2 seating. A350 is wider good for 3-3-3 seating, but not quite as wide as 777.
@ABbuilds4 жыл бұрын
Very happy to see this explained! I think you’re right, people saw both aircraft types were made from composite materials so made the assumption they’re the same class - but they forget that the 787 replaced the 767 to compete with the very popular A330, and the A350 replaced the 340 to better compete with the 777. Will be interesting to see how the 777x competes with the A350 once the global crisis has tapered off and we can see true results.
@idpro834 жыл бұрын
Having flown both I think the 787 is the more beautiful looking aircraft but the A350 has a clearly better cabin in terms of passenger comfort.
@w8stral4 жыл бұрын
Personally, anyone talking comfort is an idiot, especially on long haul(Is no such thing as comfort on long haul). NO one gives a damn other than those with gobs of money for maybe a layflat bed. The only thing anyone cares about is $$$/ticket for the masses in the cattle section.
@mingming96044 жыл бұрын
you gotta wait and fly 777-x to make the final decision since 787 doesn't compete with a350.... lol
@odez1804 жыл бұрын
For the most part the airline determines cabin comfort not the plane manufacturer
@idpro834 жыл бұрын
@@odez180 I flew the 787 and the A350 on one day with only a 50 minutes stopover (I wouldn't even call it stopover it was getting of an airplane and rushing to the next). Both flights with Qatar. The A350 was more spacious and had a significantly lower noise level. The noise level is not determined by the airline its the aircraft itself that has a quieter cabin.
@odez1804 жыл бұрын
idpro83 it’s up to the airline to configure the interior for how much space each passenger gets but the noise level is a valid point. Not to many people consider that when it comes to comfort.
@andrewtaco4 жыл бұрын
If I were a pilot, I would fly the 787>A350 because since it operates thinner routes, you get to fly to so many more exotic destinations than if you were flying an aircraft that flies more to the larger hubs and airports.
@strain1213 жыл бұрын
No, you won't. Pilot only gets pay when plane is moving. Bigger plane = longer haul = work less shift.
@aspiringcaptain2 жыл бұрын
Actually it doesn’t work like that, sorry. The A350 (Ethiopian I believe) flies their A350’s to Zanzibar, Kilimanjaro, Cape Town, Casablanca, Port Louis, Victoria, and Pointe Noire (I think) depending on the time of the year when passengers are most frequent. So no, you don’t get to go to more exotic places if you fly 787 sadly.
@xsentinel30442 жыл бұрын
@@aspiringcaptain TUI 787s fly to more…TUI 787s fly to whole Caribbean and same with some Virgin Atlantic 787-9s
@tonyshield53682 жыл бұрын
Great story to tell - I didn't know the size differences. The A350 BandAid was well criticized - they went onto design a better plane. Pity that Boeing didn't take the same medecine with their B737 Max.
@fear-is-a-token9 ай бұрын
Boeing truly has to learn a thing or two from the Airbus A330 was first flown in 1994 and was a deeply modified A300 from the 1974 - still when they tried to modify it once more and called it a new plane, everybody thought it was a bad idea. And it was just in 2004. 30 years of basic construction being there and everyone went full boooo. Meanwhile Boeing modifying it's 1968 737 (that heavily resembles the 1958 707 in many features) for the fourth time in mid-2010s (almost 60 year old "bones") - and everybody seems to like the Max (which I personally hate and won't fly if only not in a desperate need). And then people be like "why does the max have so much problems?". It's like... bruh. You can't just stretch a 28.6 meters long plane up to 43.8 meters and pretend nothing gonna go wrong
@John.05234 жыл бұрын
Best youtuber, I always love when you upload
@cobyexplanes4 жыл бұрын
:)
@pavansoni062 жыл бұрын
Very informative. But what it misses is the fact that range now takes priority over the number of seats. I’m a aviation strategy consultant myself and I’ve built plenty business plans / fleet plans for airline customers. And sorry to inform you, but for most of the airlines, the 787 and the A350 are the two options they have to select from for their long term strategy and planning. Large capacity aircraft are going out of fashion (need) for airline consumers, as evident by the fall of A380 and the 777s. As the concept of “thick routes” (point to point) is taking over, the “hub and spoke” model is going out of trend. Airlines want more and more point to point connectivity rather than huge number of seats to a hub airport and then smaller aircraft ops from there. Hence, it eventually boils down to, 1)Ownership cost, 2)yearly maintenance expense and 3)ability to make upto 75%+ PLF on most potentially available routes. So one can choose to ignore these aspects, but it is the reality and airlines are not picking between a 777/777x and A350, but rather between a 787 and A350.
@KingTriton18374 жыл бұрын
I love your channel! This is the BEST video explaining the difference between the two. Lots of so-called "aviation fans" who have no idea what they're talking about! Thank you!
@Pkari4 жыл бұрын
Flown on both, like both :) Comfy, modern, relaxing long haul cabin in both. You definitely feel a marked difference compared to the old guard on the same routes. From the cabin it’s pretty clear that the A350 is bigger, I agree with the remarks that it’s more reminiscent of the largeness of a triple 7 cabin and not a Dreamliner. The Dreamliner has always felt very spacious and modern but 767-like in overall size from cabin perspective.
@MagnumMike443 жыл бұрын
I agree, and looking at the A350's seating capacity and the triple bogie landing gears, which is on the 777, it's obvious that the A350 is a modern competitor of the current variant of the 777 and the future variant, which has been delayed. I would say that the Boeing 787, which was originally designed to replace Boeing's 767, is a direct competitor of Airbus' A330.
@owenpatal3 жыл бұрын
That’s right! And Airbus responded to the 787 with their A330neo just to quite match its efficiency 😊
@elite_facts_101404 жыл бұрын
I was a bit shocked when I saw this video but it’s good to know that the A350 has a bit more room to grow in sales.
@crazyoncoffee3 жыл бұрын
I used to be a Boeing/787 fanboy just because I was American and that was the thing to do, but have now completely swapped to Airbus as I started to learn more about Airbus systems, cockpit design, efficiency, manufacturing etc. So now I would side with the A350 for sure. I wonder how many other Boeing fans out there haven’t really ventured into Airbus that much and just support them because they are American.
@nguyenhoangan-matt3 жыл бұрын
I used to be a Boeing fan also but I'm now all over Airbus.
@iamjames82004 жыл бұрын
Finally someone has said it! Thank god!
@jimmygee32194 жыл бұрын
THANK YOU. I have no idea why this is such a firm belief in the community.
@robertoriasquey36052 жыл бұрын
Hello Coby: I have had the opportunity to fly both planes and I really loved them both. However, the A350 is very impressive with its interior design and it seems it feels more modern and spacious. I flew it from Frankfort to Shanghai right after the outbreak of the pandemic back in 2020 and it was a very nice flight.
@kevinhall20934 жыл бұрын
This is a terrific explanation, thank you! I see them both side-by-side in LHR all the time but never realized the seating differences.
@generaldvw4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the explanation. I think they are both great. The A350 seems to have a more expansive digitization programme.
@mpcc68 Жыл бұрын
I've just recently flown an 8 hour flight in economy on the A350-900 and was very impressed. The noise reduction in the cabin, vibration was non-existing, air filtration in the cabin, mood lighting, size of windows, etc. all of which stood out. I can't say that it's a better plane than the Dreamliner since I haven't flown on the Dreamliner, but I must say, the A350 is truly an impressive plane.
@stevenbeck72824 жыл бұрын
I've flown both and for the passenger it really depends on the operator. They are both much nicer to fly in than the 777 or A330
@accesscrimea Жыл бұрын
In what way are they nicer to fly in than the 777?
@sbeve7445 Жыл бұрын
@@accesscrimea The engines are quieter and the ride is less bumpy
@robrez73203 жыл бұрын
i like the 787 more, but mostly because i like the design more and i’m also a boeing fan
@pathisaviation32074 жыл бұрын
I loved my flight on an ETIHAD 787-9 BUT I WISH TO FLY ON A A350 TOO
@luisf40774 жыл бұрын
Thank you Coby for sharing that information and data. It never ceases to amze me how many folks were fixated on the concept of 787s vs A350s...outside of technologies, there's no comparison.
@frutdafruit Жыл бұрын
besides, after those 2 planes, both manufacturers have placed the same tech on other aircraft types.
@waelal-manasrah21724 жыл бұрын
Another proof regarding what you said is what Boeing themselves are mentioning! They only mention the A350 as the direct competitor to their 777x, but not to their Dreamliner! Regarding the preferences, I haven't flown any of them, but if I have the luxury to choose which one to fly, I am going to go with the A350, because I simply trust Airbus products over Boeing.
@KAVX6864 жыл бұрын
Is that because the 737 MAX?
@akshaygowrishankar74404 жыл бұрын
@@KAVX686 that's a competitor for the A320neo class, nowhere near the conversation of the 777x or 787 or A350.
@sagarshroff96244 жыл бұрын
@@akshaygowrishankar7440 he means Boeing is losing its trust because of the 737 max incident.
@akshaygowrishankar74404 жыл бұрын
@@sagarshroff9624 okay, I thought you were asking about the first bit
@holdensv20004 жыл бұрын
you make good sense man stay alive when flying to your destination the A350 is 12 years younger built with more composites better wings and more powerful engines better fly-by-wire systems it a no brainer that why Delta and more American Airlines will pick later Airbus is building around safety and not short cuts for profit over safety so arrive alive
@WanderlusttheWorld4 жыл бұрын
Both are great in their own class. Just like I love camry, accord, mazda6 each are unique in their own way.
@albomaa4 жыл бұрын
I love both of them
@toothlessseer31532 жыл бұрын
I really like the way you dissect these planes. Unlike the majority of videos on KZbin, yours are very informative and a pleasure to watch. Thank you and keep up the good work! 👍👍
@trantuanduc90234 жыл бұрын
Vietnam Airlines ❤️❤️❤️ (as I’m a Vietnamese 😄😄😄) .btw your video is a really good one. This is the first video of yours which I watched but I feel it is so informative and reliable. The clips and images are also great and practical which make your words weigh much more significant... #lovefromvietnam
@charlieromeo39913 жыл бұрын
Technologically the B787 / A350 are competitor, however they are not aimed at the same market segment. The 787 is made to replace the aging 767 and compete with the A330, while the A350 is made to compete with the 777. Unfortunately for the A350 it is because it offers only one engine, I think that this really prevents it from spreading...
@381delirius4 жыл бұрын
Cody really out here explaining
@poggoslayer_0154 жыл бұрын
fr!
@ryan_n054 жыл бұрын
Do you mean *ex-planing*? lol
@airbus_a320neo4 жыл бұрын
*Coby
@allthingsaviation44434 жыл бұрын
My BOI Coby be vibing on a 1million kill streek
@stewiegriffin123412 жыл бұрын
I’ve only flown the A350 once, but every time I’ve flown in the 787 I’ve been more comfortable than I was in the A350. This was mainly because they were less crowded, which makes sense after watching the video. In terms of looks they’re both really beautiful planes. Also, the diagram at 5:15 blows my mind; not at all how I expected comparisons of these planes to turn out.
@finanzam110 ай бұрын
Depends on the Airline not the plane. I find the a350 a lot smoother and quiter to fly.
@rocprcr4 жыл бұрын
Very detailed and logical explanation! I personally haven't experienced the A350. My only 787 experience was with Singapore Airlines which operated the dash 10 type. The plane was modern, comfortable and made the flight more than just a trip. The flight was an enjoyment. After the pandemic I'd like to try the 787s operated by ANA
@alphamalegold4 жыл бұрын
Team 787 all day, you can’t beat that wing flex 😍
@notbillnye85364 жыл бұрын
@@curtiswhyte3297 lol you're rediculous if you think wing flex looks rediculous
@tydjayowen61224 жыл бұрын
@@notbillnye8536 And your even more ridiculous if you judge someone else's taste
@ranggafahmi84794 жыл бұрын
Its not wing flex its raked
@gregsmith34104 жыл бұрын
Totally agree... look at a350 head on..a straight wing with a twist on the end..not exactly awe inspiring.. can't beat graceful curved of that 787 wing!!
@pentameteriamb61964 жыл бұрын
I agree, the 787 wing flex is awesome and the whole plane just looks better but remember that they are not competitors...
@arnold50564 жыл бұрын
Great video! Flew longhaul on a 3 month old B789 and a 2 month old A359 on the same day, almost 3 years ago now. I preferred the latter because it was quieter and more spacious. (And yes, at the time I thought they were direct competitors.)
@xanderthomson69604 жыл бұрын
I’ve flown on the 787 four times and the A350 just once and I personally preferred the A350 experience
@ssd37483 жыл бұрын
It just depends on the airline
@benjaminmenken56933 жыл бұрын
I don't like Airbus cockpits
@mbenidze4 жыл бұрын
Exactly. That's why your channel caught my attention over some other enthusiastic but less accurate channels. Good insights.
@cobyexplanes4 жыл бұрын
I appreciate that!
@aperson52104 жыл бұрын
If given the option, I'd 100% take retraining for the 787. It's such a beautiful bird, not to mention the bleedless packs and better pilot comfort, it's all around just a much prettier cockpit, quieter too.
@ACPilot4 жыл бұрын
I love the 787 and would be flying it for our airline, if it wasn’t for the longer trips. I prefer shorthaul routes, unfortunately our 787 do not fly these 🤨 To me the A350 cockpit is ugly, and the window design looks like you’re in the Spaceshuttle.
@sscustomcaraudio2 жыл бұрын
I just flew from London to phx in a a350 and I was really impressed. Best plane I’ve been in to date!
@mlzs_3 жыл бұрын
I like Boeing/787 more because of elegance and boeings history
@AliefCJ Жыл бұрын
Flown on both. They're both great airplanes!
@harrisonofcolorado88864 жыл бұрын
So all this time, I have been lied to? *How many other lies have I been told by the council?*
@adamhlali81064 жыл бұрын
Son. I hate to break it to you. You are adopted.
@yashshah54464 жыл бұрын
@@adamhlali8106 😂😂😂😂
@TGCourt2 жыл бұрын
Coby: the A350 and 787 are not competitors Also Coby: the new 787 is a A350 killer
@JackyAnsa2 жыл бұрын
The A350 is a stunning airplane to my eyes, especially if dressed with the elegant Lufthansa livery
@makarylli1 Жыл бұрын
Finnair
@TheGecko213 Жыл бұрын
"elegant" Lufthansa 🤔
@myronchapman19903 жыл бұрын
I have flown on both. Norwegian Air 787 from LAX to LGW & Delta A350 from ATL to LAX. My preference is the 787. It was smoother during landing & quieter overall. Both are really beautiful aircraft.
@deepdream11193 жыл бұрын
Dude, "smoother during landing" are you serious? It depends only on how good the pilots are
@deepdream11193 жыл бұрын
nonsense
@burhanuddinsiamwala92174 жыл бұрын
A350 just looks amazing 🙈😎
@wyxir41914 жыл бұрын
A350>787
@nathd17484 жыл бұрын
@Minsung Kim dream on matey
@ndlben71294 жыл бұрын
@Radif Mdrrr! You are a frustred Airbus Fanboy 😁😂
@ellyligth4 жыл бұрын
@@ndlben7129 airbus forever, is best. But i'd like fly in the 787-10
@crownedaxis85693 жыл бұрын
@@ellyligth ive flown on a 787 and an a350 the a350 was so damn quiet compared to how loud the 787 is
@ARC_sailor10 ай бұрын
Thank you, I’ve seen a lot of channels making videos on 787vsa350. I’ve been trying to tell them for a long time that the a350 competes with the b777 and not the 787. More people need to see this video.
@tadasstrikauskas12054 жыл бұрын
Range is another key difference to be mentioned.
@HABITZER3 жыл бұрын
I WORK AT BOEING AND WE ALWAYS KNEW THE A350 WAS COMING AFTER THE 777!!!! SO YOU ARE RIGHT 100% THAT IS WHERE THE 777X CAME FROM!
@TheFalloutBrothersKyleRyanLive4 жыл бұрын
The 787 is one of the best modern planes Boeing has built. Right up there with the 777x!
@ethansaviation26724 жыл бұрын
@Sean well done airbus fan alway's bring up the max. Do you want a gold sticker
@ethansaviation26724 жыл бұрын
@Sean hmm good like with ATTOL airbus fans 😂😂😂. You will be baby sitting or aircraft
@ethansaviation26724 жыл бұрын
@ASHIM GARG you believe what you want
@ethansaviation26724 жыл бұрын
@Sean I didn't star anything you did with the shitty comment about the max. Ye I deserve a gold sticker say I'm a dick head on it
@ethansaviation26724 жыл бұрын
@Sean ????? So if I was so rude but It is actually annoying when Airbus fans bring up the max
@NovejSpeed34 жыл бұрын
Coby you hit the nail on the head with this one. I think people confuse the "rivalry" because the A350 was initially a response to the Dreamliner, but it morphed into so much more. Fun fact the A350 also used the infamous lithium ion batteries that the 787 kept burning up. Once that happened Airbus quietly replaced theirs with the standard (heavier) lead batteries but airlines can still opt for the Lithium ion batteries today (and some have). Cant' beat that weight saving and power output LOL. I have not had the honor of flying on either so I can't comment. But I can say Subscribed.
@stevecphotos4 жыл бұрын
Great video! I'd love to see more videos with similar comparisons. Maybe 737 variants vs. a320/a321......love math when someone else is doing the work! :D
@nicholasmackenzie-rowe684 жыл бұрын
Take the A321 out of the equation. It is a mid range aircraft. The 737 is a dead duck. Boeing overeached rather than build a new aircraft. Should have listened to the engineers not the bean counters before the 800, never mind the max. The 737 is an early 60's design, way beyond its lifespan .
@Omar_Jafarli Жыл бұрын
I agree, the A350 is too good for the 787.
@JornGroen4 жыл бұрын
I prefer the 787!
@jetset4me13 жыл бұрын
I have flown the A350 from Hong Kong to LAX, the 787-9 from SFO to SIN and the 787-10 from SGN to SIN. The configurations, seating, service made a difference in my experience. They were all more enjoyable to the older aircraft.
@vishiferrari104 жыл бұрын
At 5:54, there's an error in the calculations shown. 68.4 and 266.5 for their respective A350 types has been interchanged.
@themindset3329 Жыл бұрын
I've never flown on either. I'm gonna fly in a 787 in October from Frankfurt to Tokyo And I'm gonna work in a fleet of A330neo as a flight attendant My pick is still the A350
@ScottRothsroth06164 жыл бұрын
“... recently retired their entire triple seven (777) fleet” - 4:53 If I remember correctly Delta cancel “their” (order was made by Northwest Airlines, before the merger) order for 787s for A350s as well as replaced their 747-400s/747-451s (again Northwest Airlines, before the merger) with A350s. Assuming I remember correctly, does anyone have any theories as to why?
@jefflewis44 жыл бұрын
It was the delayed delivery of the 787. Had Delta gotten the 787 by 2010 they likely would have taken delivery. But the delay allowed them to defer their purchase decision. Delta ordered 25 A330neos a few years afterwards in addition to the A350's. By 2016 when the cancel decision was made Delta just didn't need the 787.
@w8stral4 жыл бұрын
Delta has bought Airbus exclusively for the last 2 decades. They still fly some old Boeing/McDonald Douglas planes, but most have been retired.
@holdensv20004 жыл бұрын
Because the A350 is 12 years younger built with more composites better wings and more powerful engines better fly-by-wire systems it a no brainer that why Delta and more American Airlines will pick later
@ScottRothsroth06164 жыл бұрын
jefflewis4 Thank you.
@gelinrefira4 жыл бұрын
Makes a lot of sense. The era of 4 engines jet is ending anyway. There are almost no routes that will demand a 500 passenger jet that can be profitably operated. They have to retire their 747s, and if they are also retiring their old 777s. They really need to fill the gap for the large jetliners, and it will be better to just replace them all with the same new jet that can fulfill all the roles they need and really bank on the economies of scale.
@brandan6484 жыл бұрын
I use to also think that A350 and b787 was competitors mostly cause they look very similar but as it was revealed that a330neo was its competitor it made more sense to me and it made more sense that the a350s competitor was the b777 since the A350-1000 was designed to carry passengers in the range of the b777
@andrewsavage67384 жыл бұрын
Both the A350 and 787 are remarkable planes. The have their respective place in the industry.
@nagaraja-tg5wu Жыл бұрын
Don’t compare both of them, A350 series direct competitor to Boeing 777x series….A330neo series is direct competitor for 787series
@davidcole3334 жыл бұрын
Thanks Dr. Cooper. 787 and A350 is the same as the blonde/brunette conundrum. It could be argued until the end of time and never establish a clear winner. I did learn a lot today. Thanks!
@ederss74 жыл бұрын
Just compare the MTOW: the difference is huge.
@gabrielortiz52833 жыл бұрын
Basically the 787 is a 767 successor.
@bwc19763 жыл бұрын
Except without the 767's best feature which was the 2-3-2 seating. I've heard they're squeezing 9 people per row onto the 787 now, when it was designed for 8 like an A330.
@wildatlanticcoffeetasters14234 жыл бұрын
A350 all the way!
@zippygundoo58524 жыл бұрын
I agree with the non-comparison. Haven’t tuned in for a while, glad I did today. And you’re rockin’ that beard 👍🏻😉
@evanveres74834 жыл бұрын
Wasn’t the A350 a response to the 787 because airbus saw it had potential? I’m not saying it’s a *direct* competitor. Maybe that’s why some think it directly competes
@derbagger224 жыл бұрын
And wasn't the A380 a response to the 777? Obviously, ideas can come from anywhere. But it doesn't mean the final product matches the inspiration...
@nickm83554 жыл бұрын
I agree that they are different in terms of size, but they both have similar concepts like composite materials, maximum efficiency and even the designs are very similar
@jlzaviation30664 жыл бұрын
Their maximum passenger numbers are diffrent a350 is for b777 or 777X and a330 neo is for b787
@cazgur15374 жыл бұрын
True
@iamjames82004 жыл бұрын
DCR KANAL that’s what the video says..so thanks for repeating it I guess...
@jlzaviation30664 жыл бұрын
@@iamjames8200 lol i made this comment before the video😅
@elite_facts_101404 жыл бұрын
I simply like both jets. I’ve flown on the 787 and A350, and they are both pretty quiet. In all, both of them are really nice jets to fly on.
@annoyingguyoninternet16314 жыл бұрын
787 = A330neo 777X = A350
@annoyingguyoninternet16314 жыл бұрын
@@77l96 the distance of seat number between 787 and A350 is much larger than 777X and A350 plus A350 is A350-2000 capable
@edwincabrerarodriguez52634 жыл бұрын
I'm always having this discussion with friends and random people and they don't trust me.🤦🏽♂️Thanks for this video.
@liangfeifung68804 жыл бұрын
everyone thinks that the a350 and 787 are competitors because they look a lot alike
@SierraDelta-4 жыл бұрын
And there very similar in range and and the amount of seats
@stoje84053 жыл бұрын
@@SierraDelta- nope, A350's seating capacity is much near to the 777 rather than a 787 A359 is about the same as B777-200series and B78X while A35k is about the same as B77W and B777-8 Also the range of the A350 is a bit further than any Boeing aircraft, except 777-200LR
@thgsr092 жыл бұрын
A350s are wider and offers the same 3x3x3 seat config. Been flown in both I can say the XWB is roomier, seats are wider and engines is quieter. Can't say the same about japanese carriers as they use a different config for 787s (2x4x2) and nobody can deny this is the proper seat arrangement for the Boeing aircraft. I think both are beautiful and fulfill their purpouse over the average.
@ice_diamond44354 жыл бұрын
787 forever
@dantearaujo97034 жыл бұрын
Another great example of this is the brazilian company TAM, that when started to merge with Lan Chile, begun to retired their a330s for the 787s. And now they are retiring their 777-200s and replacing the routes with A350s. They were a case with the Delta and Qatar all together.
@Jordan-df5uy4 жыл бұрын
a350 cuz im a patriotic french guy
@Jordan-df5uy4 жыл бұрын
@Caleb Baggett lol
@tovmolo39044 жыл бұрын
I’ve been on both. They are both beautiful in their unique own ways, I’m not sure I have a preference over one another.
@kfraser37834 жыл бұрын
787
@geofferychang87134 жыл бұрын
I was a fan of B787, then I took a flight from Hong Kong to Ethiopia on a A350 that completely changed my mind of which is my fav, I still love both of these gorgeous airplanes, but if I am going to be stuck in one for hours, I would choose A350 for sure. I've flown between Hong Kong and Taipei on A350 a few times and it just further cemented A350 as my fav aircraft.
@northwestside66444 жыл бұрын
A330neo
@mijnordna4 жыл бұрын
Once again, nice video, Coby! Unlike that Australian teenager's videos, I actually learn something from yours...