ChatGPT Shake-Off: "Make a cocktail with grapes"

[@CocktailChemistry]

Which ingredients should I use in the next shake-off?

[@JTSabre]

Advocaat! It is the right time of year... 😎

[@MrMinecraftocd]

Durian fruit would be a good video

[@MrAqr2598]

How about soy sauce or tabasco as an ingredient?

[@Deefry]

Frangelico!

[@DBELLTREE]

Bitters, Amaros, and peels

[@DreadKyller]

I think four cocktails would be interesting. Both you and the AI separately come up with a recipe (writing yours down first). Afterwards you have the AI try to improve your recipe, while you attempt to improve the AI's recipe. Might be a bit too much for an episode, not sure.

[@theredstormer8078]

I think this is a pretty good idea. This video seemed long for just 2 cocktails to me.

[@generalcaz]

Perhaps an independent taste tester who doesn't know which cocktail came from human / ai would help prevent some bias? I know it's not supposed to be super serious but having a separate taste tester would be an interesting data point.

[@sheldoniusRex]

Time to bring in a girl/boy friend and abuse their taste buds for internet fame.

[@Sniperboy5551]

I volunteer myself as guinea pig!

[@elyb1494]

He could introduce his wife!

[@itaialter]

Great idea. There could be an episode where the other expert is the taste tester, and there could be an episode where the other expert is the one creating the human variation and Nick would be the taste tester.

[@savagesarethebest7251]

To the Science!

[@LordRunolfrUlfsson]

You should define your recipe before you get one from the AI. I think that would be a more accurate test of "can the AI come up with a better recipe than a human."

[@chasevanepps4420]

Agreed, it would also be fun to have the AI try to improve one of your cocktails giving it the details

[@Torbikini]

Agreed. Making it after knowing what the AI did kinda gives them an edge.

[@JBB685]

Yep, I thought that too. Fun series

[@highwaytyson2913]

❤

[@Helron2301]

Hey! We miss you! Love your editing style, history of drinks and reviews.

[@blanktom6049]

Try concord grapes next time. I made a similar cocktails with concord grapes - they have a much bolder flavor that really pulls through well in the drink.

[@WitchWords]

Awww yeah, and those grow all over here!

[@ocloud7389]

You should do this but you make your cocktail first without input of the AI, really see who can make a better one rather than you essentially making the ai's better

[@HaydenX]

The AI-gen one is definitely something I could see on the Chili's menu...on some sort of limited drink menu called the "May Mint Menagerie" or something alongside a twist on a julep (probably something like a julep-mojito fusion), and a grasshopper, but with Andes Mints shavings on top. I will say that I immediately thought that the grapes would be completely invisible. Grape juice could work, but it's a lot sweeter than even the sweetest grapes because of the processing and evening out. If I were doing it, and had no limits on any ingredients, I would use actual fresh concord grapes in the muddling...but that is a royal pain in the ass for most of the world most of the time. Still, I bet it would be pretty good, given the strength of concord grapes.

[@toniokettner4821]

YES makes this a series. ingredients: cayenne pepper, ginger

[@WitchWords]

That would be great right now, during the winter. Warms ya from the inside out!

[@highwaytyson2913]

👍👍

[@alohaann6106]

Four months ago? Where have you gone? I miss you!

[@a_3x]

We miss you. Please come back.

[@Karlhuna]

Wife and I are into making this a series. Welcome back!

[@highwaytyson2913]

👍

[@llessursamoht]

After working with ChatGBT for a little I would recommend 1) trying out giving it a recipe you come up with and ask it do make it better 2) as in first video show the evolution over a couple tries showing how it learns and 3) find ways of having general discussions about making cocktails instead of specific recipes to help learn concepts for user to make their own recipe

[@gilead77123]

Yo brother, you were my favorite cocktail KZbinr, but I have been sad to see you gone for the past 10 plus months. I hope everything is going well in your life, but I quite miss you. A quick Google search says your spending time with family, and I can't nock you for that, although I love the energy you bring to this platform. Hope to see you again someday soon.

[@luxtempestas]

Where are you, man? Come back! 😢

[@dominicdelliquadri2204]

I love this video concept, super fun! I think it would be interesting to give the AI 2-3 ingredients, things that may not typically go together. For example, instead of just grapes, what would the AI do with grapes and an amaro?

[@erikmarez1464]

Strawberry please!! Your strawberry cocktail recipe is incredible!!

[@juliegolick]

Ooh, fun! I'd love to see it make a mocktail that is neither sparkling nor coffee-based.

[@tbone6032]

This is such a cool series idea. Love it

[@highwaytyson2913]

👍

[@Barrillel]

Welcome back! I'd love to see how the AI would deal with honey or maple syrup. Basically I'm curious if it can handle viscous sugars in a balanced or even thematic way.

[@jasikblack4810]

Disappeared 7 months ago with no warning I hope you and your family are ok your viewers miss you

[@alexdeniger4719]

Top tier choice of background music, take 5 is a timeless track

[@bartkynils2925]

You haven't posted in a while, hope you are doing good! Waiting for your next videos, we miss you!

[@mmeiselph7234]

If you used that Empress gin you'd get a similar color. I really like these, the GPT-3 stuff is fascinating.

[@emile_jeanne]

Great stuff! I think Mezcal would be a real challenge for the AI since it can be really difficult to use its smokiness correctly. Might as well go with Benedictine liqueur and St. Germain for an extra push to the difficulty!

[@qazzaqstan]

Definitely a fun idea, and if it works could be a useful inspiration tool too.

[@MrAqr2598]

Cheers from 2023!!

[@Boddah.]

R.I.P

[@skwyd42]

Great video idea. I think you should definitely do more like this!

[@highwaytyson2913]

👍

[@Flyingcar100]

To see how good it actually is you should have it create a cocktail with Malort.

[@StarSash77]

Remember that ChatGPT does not search the internet for ideas and answers. It does not have any information past 2019 (if I remember correctly). However, you can install and use extensions that give it access to the internet. I highly recommend also trying to ask it more specific questions or formats because the more descriptive you are, the better your prompt will be. I've played around with it and made a prompt to make a new Pokémon that is very long. It may also be good to preface information as well. One could include in their prompt that there is a range of oz a typical ingredient is used to make a cocktail. Parameters work really well

[@StarSash77]

Also you may try to define an ingredient as having certain flavor characteristics. Something like "ingredient - description of ingredient flavor profile"

[@pousoix]

Great stuff! Stoked for the rest of this series. I’m curious if GPT is able to associate ingredients with their traditional use. For instance, if you provided Velvet Falernum as the prompt ingredient, would it produce a tiki cocktail, or some riff on a corn and oil?

[@RthereNEusernames]

Go test it out, it's free. It probably will give you that.

[@seeker296]

Of course. GPT learns by reading and parroting the internet, so it's actually very, very susceptible to traditional concepts to the point of being incorrect at times

[@RthereNEusernames]

@@seeker296 I know this is probably not what you meant, but it doesn't read the internet. It's been programmed on billions of pieces of data. You're right about it being incorrect at times too. Definitely has its limitations but it's very cool. GPT4 is going to be nuts.

[@nathanbrady2704]

Ingredient suggestions Peanut butter Nutella syrup Yeast extract (marmite) Avocado pulp

[@certifiedpineappletree6708]

So glad you’re back!

[@BoatNectar]

My boy living off that coffee table money now, youtube content is over m8's

[@johnmorrell4759]

Potential (individual) Ingredients: Old Bay, dashi, molasses, black beans, tomato paste, Wasabi, balsamic vinegar. I just went through every shelf in my pantry!

[@SmegulonPrime]

I love black grape flavour, not as common in the UK as in US, would love to have a cocktail with the overriding flavour

[@jackryan9318]

If you're looking for more grape, make a grape syrup. I've done that before and it makes such an unbelievable grape flavor. Either replace the simple with grape syrup or mix the two, depending on how much grape and sweetness you're looking for

[@mmeiselph7234]

The ancho reyes line (red and green) are hard for me to balance. I'm fine with spicy (I'm in NM), but they both tend to turn everything into a "spicy" cocktail in a way that is not always ideal.

[@topgunm]

He's good everyone. I tracked him down and his last (private) SoMe activity was 5 hours ago. Guess he is just busy with work/family/life.

[@shermantiller4112]

Use Vanilla Extract!!!

[@drewbabe]

see if it can make anything good out of an herb that we know is used in cocktails but not very often. like rosemary

[@ARSON_with_a_C]

I love the Ai cocktail vids !!

[@Spo0nch]

This video series is a lot of fun! I'd love to see one for Coffee cocktails ☕

[@someonewithsomename]

You have to understand, that this neural network is not trained in cocktail making. It's like asking a 12 year old kid how to make a cocktail. It knows how to talk, it "heard" about cocktails and stuff, but it knows nothing about it. If they were to train it to know the tastes and smells also - it's game over

[@deenzmartin6695]

I LIKE THE IDEA.

[@johnd0e25]

That's a really fun idea for a series

[@whencani]

I love this series. 'tis the season in the Bay Area for Meyer lemon...

[@karlyan6172]

pickle juice would be interesting to see

[@lake3986]

Take 5, a very fine choice my friend

[@panken]

I never thought i wanted a grape cocktail. Totally tryi g this

[@creepofreek4853]

Thanks for inviting us to whiteness how you prepare a mixed drink. They look delicious

[@marcdanielelopez3072]

would love to see this series go on! Very compelling content indeed. Next time try to make a drink using something floral maybe? perhaps a literal flower.

[@MykePagan]

Suggestion: ask ChatGPT to make 🎉cocktails based on several different Amaros (Amani?). Like, make one with Aperol, one with Cynar, one with Amaro Nonnini, one with Campari. Then see if it does anything different with each. This will test to see if it has learned any subtleties of flavor combination.

[@progect3548]

the ai generated one looks like blue Gatorade lol

[@aahnecroth]

it has eletrolytes

[@tconlon251]

@@aahnecroth It’s what plants crave 🪴

[@Terinije]

Have it and you come up with a beertail on the fly. Would be interested in what combos it chose.

[@kirinomane]

Love the Idea. I personally think that Ingredients, that you would usually never use, like the sesame oil, make this whole thing more fun. I would like to see a Video, in which you try to make a cocktail using cinnamon!

[@TexasBoy-qv2pq]

Pears are in season.

[@StuffTube]

Awesome series idea

[@RB-vt2ur]

Yes, as a series! I can barely find it anymore, but I've been enjoying playing around with Chartreuse ever since the Green Russian recipe of yours. So, any color Chartreuse !

[@apefu]

Love the last two videos, but I feel that the feedback back into chatgpt kind of made the first one more interesting.

[@azzlackguhnter5635]

What happened dude?

[@dominicaccardo8050]

mini series please!! anything for more cocktail chemistry

[@omara5079]

I love your videos and I love the idea of this series! Keep it goin!

[@GoyoTheKid12]

A balanced cocktail that uses Malört.

[@GothicPotato2]

It would have been nice to infuse some pea blossom flowers into the gin before adding it. Then you would have gotten a cocktail with a nice pink/purple hue (depending on the pH of your cocktail), which would be inline with the ChatGPT cocktail as well as your base theme. I also second the comments regarding generating your cocktail before seeing what ChatGPT comes up with, as well as doing the "who can improve it better" versions of what each of you come up with. Fun concept of a video overall though!

[@swampenicim8041]

Think you should taste the cocktail as soon as you finish it since the hotter the drink gets the sweeter taste. As one of the books behind you tells. So you can get a more fair comparison.

[@Sanctum6900]

Lets see... Some ideas for special ingredients... Chocolate. Sweet Corn. Cinnamon. Mountain Dew. Student Debt. The colour Blurple. Miracle Berries. The sunrise on a day that you know is going to be really shit, but damned if that isn't an amazing sunrise.

[@jakobritter6715]

I'd be interested in using a dark beer in a cocktail. It shouldn't be just a mixed drink, like half beer half pale ale but a proper cocktail, maybe a twist on a classic.

[@rorylidster4844]

please use fruit loops or even better apple jacks as the main

[@OogyTheMango]

When I asked ChatGPT for newly invented cocktail recipes it kept giving me ones with blue curacao. I wonder why?

[@susanalderson8267]

Paid advert in ChatGPT?

[@cakeboss921]

I LOVE this new series

[@mattsnyder4754]

“I’m worried about this being too sweet because of the grapes. “I added double the amount of grapes than the recipe said” “Yep. It’s too sweet. Not balanced” Gee. I wonder why Copernicus.

[@1980jmc876]

Such an awesome concept!

[@neil_chazin]

I think it might be fun to try something spicy next

[@ganonfan98]

Stuff like this always gets me thinking about pushing at corners in the machine's knowledge. Like, if you ask it for a cocktail with two or three ingredients specified, will it give you back the expected recipe (e.g. creme de violette and gin -> aviation)? And what does it do with something less common but more normal than your last vid? Something that doesn't come up in a ton of things, or maybe really old-timey.

[@seeker296]

CocktailAI challenge, 5 chances to make something visually appealing and drinkable with human feedback after each attempt ingredients: milk, orange or tomato juice Total ABV >12.5% Disallowed: complex techniques/special equipment, eggs, synthetic emulsifiers (define as you like, AI gets a free redo if your only feedback is "X is disallowed")

[@verdski]

I'd love to see what kind of cocktail it would make you with espresso. Would you have to indicate to it a hot or cold value? Could be interesting to ask it for one of each.

[@endrawes0]

Ingredient: Rosemary

[@2leveraged951]

Can you do a quick video explaining how to properly balance a cocktail, generally speaking? I think a lot of us would love to hear that from you.

[@asdn96]

Please do one with cranberry

[@b3rnd]

These vids are awesome, glad you're back. Might I suggest liquorice?

[@Pygmyz06]

Sure, here's a recipe for a Mango Tajin Cocktail: Ingredients: 2 oz tequila 1 oz lime juice 1/2 oz simple syrup 1/2 oz mango concentrate 1/4 tsp Tajin seasoning (or more to taste) Salt for rim (optional) Instructions: Rim the glass with salt (if using) by rubbing a lime wedge around the rim and dipping it into a small plate of salt. In a shaker, combine the tequila, lime juice, simple syrup, and mango concentrate. Shake until well combined. Add ice to the shaker and shake again until chilled. Strain the mixture into the rimmed glass. Sprinkle Tajin over the top of the drink, to taste. Garnish with a lime wheel or a slice of mango, if desired. Enjoy! You can play with the amount of ingredients, to make it sweeter, sour or stronger.

[@FatRogSlim]

tbf it said 3 grapes and you put 6 thinking it was talking about normal/big size grape. Maybe with 3 of those it would've been less sweet

[@andre9095]

If this is a series, the order of recipes should matter. “Here’s what I made, here’s what it made (here’s the best of both worlds)

[@andre9095]

You ideally should record your cocktail before seeing the AI recipe.

[@williamladine7591]

Not a cocktail person so apologies if this is a dumb suggestion but trying to make a cocktail with hot sauce would be interesting. This is a cool use of chat GPT

[@duncanbailey8142]

I think they use hot sauce in a Bloody Mary

[@carsongbaker]

Though I bet yours has been made before, while the AI's probably hasn't - certainly inventive!

[@highesthoe6147]

Wow love this idea! Sour raspberry would be great 😊

[@mmmhorsesteaks]

Grapes are basically sugar water. Not a ton of flavor there so if you add the gin that's maybe a bit too much competition in the flavor space?

[@lollerich]

This is a great idea for a series of vids

[@VendErre]

USE EVERYTHING IN YOUR FRIDGE

[@bobbicatton]

Cool series! What would AI make with butternut squash🤔

[@cubiesings]

I agree that if you're gonna do a particular ingredient cocktail-off, you should do it by making a cocktail with the ingredient independently of the AI, and let the AI do the same. As for an ingredient to try out, how about something tricky to get right, like fish sauce?

[@apropostt]

I would think vermouth or port and vodka would be a good base for a grape cocktail.

[@peabody3000]

awww you didn't have AI name the drink.. it's impressive when it comes up with something catchy and witty, complete with with a rationale

[@aaronblack1847]

I suggest sweet tea and Mountain Dew Baja blast

[@phsk69420]

Ingredient: Hibiscus

[@thepap000]

I love this

[@konstantinklemm4915]

Happy new year! I would like to see some lychee in the Series

[@winniethepoohxi1896]

You could just ask it to come up with a more interesting replacement for vodka. Get a friend to do a blind taste test. I'd be very curious about the results.