ESFJ vs ENFJ - Type Comparison

A cognitive function based comparison of the two Extraverted Feeling dominants!
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Hi, I'm Harry, and I'm intensely passionate about personality typing and self-development - so much so that I have created my own Jung-inspired system, taking a more high-resolution look at the factors making up personality.
Through Cognitive Personality Theory I examine the underlying mechanisms behind cognition, and the means through which a single type can have limitless individual variation - I believe type itself is just a set of cognitive predispositions that can according to the needs of the situation be overcome.
I don't believe any type is limited in what they can achieve, but have noticed sensationalist attitudes and internet trends propagating a culture in which type-development is actively discouraged in favour of conforming to simplistic archetypes. Through CPT I hope to dispel various myths and oversimplifications of what constitutes personality type, and along the way encourage a healthier attitude towards type that allows a person to become not who they are told they are, but rather who they want to be.
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00:00 - Introduction
00:17 - Extraverted Feeling
01:41 - Introverted Thinking
03:57 - Summary
05:14 - Auxiliary Functions
07:51 - Opposing Functions
12:28 - Extraverted Thinking
14:00 - Introverted Feeling
16:10 - Dormant States
17:00 - Wrap-up
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KEY
Ni/Introverted Intuition - Broad & plethoric perception of internal world.
Ne/Extraverted Intuition - Broad & plethoric perception of external world.
Si/Introverted Sensing - Specific and concrete perception of internal world.
Se/Extraverted Sensing - Specific and concrete perception of external world.
Fi/Introverted Feeling - Subjective codec; internal emotional data & harmony.
Fe/Extraverted Feeling - Subjective codec; external emotional data & harmony.
Ti/Introverted Thinking - Objective codec; internal logical order.
Te/Extraverted Thinking - Objective codec; external logical order.
Lens - Perceives data.
Codec - Rationalises data.
Convergent - Positive, creative, enacting change and seeking novelty.
Divergent - Negative, authoritative, instilling consequence and driving utility.
For more clarification on terms see the CPT eBook!
#ENFJ #ESFJ #16Types

[@four2896]

Can we get a video about ESFJs please? My personal opinion is that this type is criminally underrated in the community.

[@becca6951]

I just came across this video and it is the best explanation of the ESFJ personality that I’ve ever encountered. As an ESFJ, I’m often disappointed with the inaccurate stereotype of the popular, shallow, needy, and traditional mbti labels for this type. Thank you for taking time to really understand and explain the inner development/outward reactions of the ESFJ. You’re analysis provides depth that is very refreshing - especially your mention of the Ti-Si function!

[@CroshBash]

Your*

[@soleil2131]

exactlyyy it’s very frustrating tbh it makes me so doubtful :(

[@fluffsquirrel]

I am really grateful for this as well! I can't believe it took me this long to find an example. Is it just me, or does it almost seem like there's a sort of "competition" between ENFJs and ESFJs in the mbti circle? I almost feel like we are treated as the second-rate, less empathetic, narrow-minded sibling of the awesome ENFJ. I don't dislike ENFJs, the opposite is true, I wish I could be more like them but I feel like from every site I visit and video I see, ESFJs are kinda seen as too stubborn and detail-focussed. Am I wrong in this? I don't want to cast an unfair blame on the mbti community, but this has been bothering me and at times I feel almost enviously of Ni and how cool and thoughtful ENFJs are known to be. Maybe there is usefulness for the nostalgia and the detail-focus but I would love to be able to plan like they do and to have my ideas respected like theirs. Does anybody else feel this way too? I'm sure it isn't exclusive to this exact type, cognitive functions can be shared, but it would be nice to hear from another ESFJ. Thank you!

[@aTaurusBabe]

Your explanation of why Fe types might withdraw in the digital age was spot on. I disappear from my friends (more often than I would like to admit) and social media is because the pressure I put on myself to be the best person anyone has ever experienced is far too much. Deleting social media for long periods of time feels freeing! It’s funny because I was saying to myself a while ago, that I know how important positive feedback is to me. Therefore, I see not being on social media a way to limit feedback. I hope thé above makes sense and thank you for the vid! P.S. I’m an ENFJ 🤍

[@amn5837]

Finally an informative person who explains exactly what I need to know, clearly, systematically!

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

Thank you for the kind words!

[@gargervon8697]

I am an ENFJ, and I really resonate with what you said about how ENFJs are more likely to be very one-on-one in their social styles. That is definitely true of me, and along with the other things you presented, erases any doubt in my mind over this comparison. Thanks for posting!

[@dc4019]

This video is really well organized and explained. I could really understand what these types are like. The therapist-like nature of the ENFJ, and the community-leading tendencies of the ESFJ are really apparent here. It's your best yet. We are glad to have you back.

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

Thanks so much my friend!

[@thepanthar]

@@CognitivePersonalityTheory How would you type Bill Gates, Jeff Bezos and Elon Musk? I usually see people who type every person that as you have said in earlier videos can set long term goals for themselves to achieve as an INTJ despite them never once seeking meaning in the abstract realm. Some examples of such characters would include Lelouch Vi Britania from Code Geass, Meruem from Hunter x Hunter and Mewtwo from Pokemon.

[@Werksonek]

​@@thepanthar he said that Elon Musk is an ISTP.

[@abigailjordan2111]

This helps so much! My husband is an ENFJ and I have definitely confuse him with a thinking type before. I appreciate CPT’s approach to the cognitive functions. Especially giving new light to the “inferior functions.”

[@Tified967]

Ha me to I'm typed by CPT as a divergent ENFJ who initially typed as an INTJ or invariably ENTP. My Ti is definitely not inferior by any stretch of the imagination 😊

[@cazbee6126]

I worked with an ESFJ medical research biochemist who has gone on to do great things. She's mentioned her Imposter Syndrome experience, and this vid may lend some explanation.

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

This is such a great example of the Ti-Si divergence!!

[@brooklinnratto8315]

What I have noticed with esfj is that they can be destructive with projection onto others and blaming others for their losses in how other people see them. Its very depressing and self destructive cycle, I very much agree with your explanation of enfj being more saddle with identity. I wish to discuss more of the negative aspects of humanity. Esfjs can be a bit too nostalgic 😅

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

The murky Fi-Ni pairing there can lead to such insecurity, but thankfully not always!

[@fluffsquirrel]

Hi sorry, I think you might be right, but I don't like to hurt anybody else with the blaming thing although I have found myself doing precisely this. I like the concept of justice and making sure an environment is fair, but I guess with poor guidance that can cause injustice if not enough evidence is present. That being said, I'm not really sure what it means to be too nostalgic. I have a tendency to look memorably back to older times that I liked, even those before my own birth, and I try to learn from them. I don't necessarily know why that's a bad thing, but I would love to hear your thoughts on the subject! I've never heard of nostalgia being too excessive before, and I would absolutely appreciate it if I could learn to not be a problem for someone else. A lot of people won't say it out loud and as a result I can't really learn from it, so your mentioning this is extremely helpful and I greatly appreciate it Brooklin! If you don't want to share, that's totally fine too, I just wanted to express my gratefulness for this extra perspective!

[@ZygonCannar]

Holy fuck, you got it dude. I knew deep down from my functions I was an ENFJ, but I was just a little bit different than any other ENFJ. Much more introverted, I spend a lot of time flexing my Ti with indie strategy games than probably any other ENFJ. But it caused me DEEP depression over time, from suppressing my Se entirely. So when you explained how that lens changes to Ne when someone relies on Ti more as an ENFJ...that's when I was like, bam someone finally got it. Because it was once I figured out I was an ENFJ, and started truly using my natural function stack, that I was able to find myself. Bravo, sir. You're really onto something.

[@Tified967]

Oh wow, I was typed by CPT as a divergent ENFJ with a highly fluid axis meaning I spend a lot of time navigating my world as a Ti-Ni dom. Harry also noted that my Se is somewhat repressed. If you found a way out of this hell hole please feel free to share your insights! I'm constantly reformulating my Ti-Ni (which I love) but it very much comes at the expense of concrete tangible action.

[@RetroXRicardo]

What a wonderful breakdown of the Fe doms. You've described me as am ESFJ perfectly. Not many of us out here in the Typology community from my observations. Thanks for this wonderful break down of our functions and function pairings. Cheers! 👏👏👏

[@Tified967]

I think there is people just tend to mistype unfortunately. I know a lot of INTPs who are actually ESFJs 😊

[@RetroXRicardo]

@@Tified967 Yes, I know what you mean! 👍

[@Tified967]

Exactly and ESFJs are a very misunderstood type in my humble opinion; we rarely hear about the high fidelity of Ti-Si. I'm an ENFJ myself with an ESFJ senior manager who's wonderfully creative & very hyperfocused on what she wants to achieve.

[@fluffsquirrel]

@@Tified967As an ESFJ who highly values (and somewhat envies) the planning and "zooming-out" of Ni, this is really thoughtful and encouraging! Thank you so much!

[@artapothecary53]

Thank you for this information. This has been the most in depth analysis of the ENFJ that I have found

[@_thomas1031]

Such a SPECTACULAR analysis!!🙌🙌🙌

[@mkl5672]

This is by far the best explanation of extroverted feeling/ introverted thinking that I’ve come across. So much more clear for me now! Thank you

[@heartpoint5289]

Yay! Thank you for the new video, my brain needed it! This was very accurate in describing these types and helped me gain more insight and understanding for both. Your videos have helped me ask people much better questions about themselves. I was very baffled by the similarities and differences between myself (ENFP) and 2 ENFJs I know well. I could see both our types read people very well, and quickly synthesize and predict near-future outcomes based on the people’s reactions to situations and seeing multiple chains of events that could possibly play out. Both ENFJs ended up articulating that they see all this, but don’t believe that when this possible future situation is actually happening, they will have any ability to influence it. That kinda blew my mind. I’m only able to imagine it conceptually. I feel almost the opposite. I feel like I have great ability to influence these future scenarios and will, and so must do so with ultimate integrity. I’m more likely to struggle with a perceived heaviness that it’s all up to me. Like, “with great power comes great responsibility”. Would love to hear your take on this.

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

Thanks Molly! That's really interesting and certainly congruent with Fi authority, whereas Fe dominants tend to influence within an Fe-role based locus.

[@victorpintilie212]

Always appreciated your thorough analysis of the cognitive functions and the cognitive types as a whole. Kind regards from an INTJ! Keep up the good work!

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

Thanks for the kind words!

[@Rek-Lore]

Fantastic explanation. 18 mins and every min counts. Thanks for making these videos, I learn a lot every time!

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

Thank you, I'm so glad to hear this!

[@gabrielalsham2192]

Hello Harry, Hope all is well with you! First of All, I would like to express my deep gratitude for the information you provide! Your resolute objectivity in delivering your in-depth knowledge to your audience simply makes your Channel "THE BEST" and most reliable KZbin channel on Typology! (not a compliment just stating the obvious!) To get to the point, A type comparison between INTJ and ENTJ would be very much appreciated, especially because they share the same conscious cognitive stack in varying orders.

[@annathepiper7964]

Yay!!! He's back!

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

Yes indeed!

[@Patricia-ey4ps]

Yay, a new video by you! It's quite difficult for me to understand Fe-doms - so thank you for this (as always) very informative video 😊

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

Thanks Patricia, I'm glad it was helpful!

[@AmyMarie1992]

I second that :)

[@yasminrei]

me 3!! will you be doing an ISFJ vs ESFJ difference video anytime soon? They confuse me so much 😣

[@Tified967]

What do ya'll find difficult to understand about Fe doms? I know that ENFJs are considered the most private type - which I'd agree with - but with regards Fe doms in general I'd be interested to hear. Worth mentioning that as a divergent ENFJ I certainly don't present like your typical Fe dom; I'm mostly mistyped as a Ti dom due to my axis being very fluid. Hail Ti 😂😊

[@bett8762]

So glad to watch your video again! Hope your 2021 goes well from now on :D

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

Same to you!!

[@lukeadamson353]

That was brilliant. Thank you for clarifying that for me. It's been a rough week trying to get an understanding. Not my way of thinking. Lol Huge help.👍

[@mystamystic]

It's good to see you back! Cheers to functioning equipment haha

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

You know it!

[@sugarcravings1797]

I'm grateful for these videos, they were useful for my understanding of myself, moreover, I recently read an article regarding IQ and communication, and then I understood perfectly why I have to watch these videos thrice. A sudden realization, the reason why I decided to left intellectual topics to truly intelligent people. It's been the ultimate relief.

[@Tified967]

Perhaps your down playing your intellect here as this type of content tends to attract a certain kind of audience of which you are part of

[@sugarcravings1797]

@@Tified967 IQ is education, intelligence is organized education. I consider myself intelligent because I've included all the information I've gathered in the last 2 years into my cognitive framework, viz. the map from which we have the impression of truth.

[@sunshinedayz7032]

So intelligent! Such great information. Highly attractive!

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

Ahh thanks so much!!

[@hulk2546]

Finally, That was a great video next I want to see a video on the ESFP vs ENFP

[@heartpoint5289]

Me too! I’m ENFP and recently had a falling out with a dear friend, and a falling out with a friend is an extremely rare occurrence in my life. A big part of my getting into the cognitive functions was to try to make sense of it. My friend is ESFP. Researching the types in general has helped me some, but Harry’s type comparisons are superior. The first video I found was popular on KZbin but was extremely bizarre and kept talking about how both types (I guess the speaker assumes all ENFPs and ESFPs are female) always have breast implants and wear low-cut shirts to job interviews. That they are the most morally corrupt of the types but in the end, it’s the ENFP who is the more truly depraved. Needless to say, I moved on and kept researching 😂

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

It shall be done!

[@notthatvashti8127]

You didn't miss a beat. Welcome back!

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

Thank you my friend!

[@notthatvashti8127]

@@CognitivePersonalityTheory 🙏

[@kipuah]

I knew you looked familiar! I've watched your fingerstyle covers for years! I can't believe I found your other channel naturally. This is amazing.

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

That's so cool to hear!!

[@noahmoufarrij1254]

Return of the King

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

Haha, this made me want to grow my beard and start singing in elvish.

[@johnny_roots]

I thought I was an ENFJ but I am increasingly convinced I'd mistyped myself and I am actually an ESFJ. Only now I am really understanding what Ni and Si truly are...

[@fluffsquirrel]

It really is crazy how similar they appear yet how starkly different the Si and Ni are! He explained it so well, I absolutely agree!

[@drdramatik]

I was a little lost on some of the terminology you used, but overall, very informative! I'm still not very sure which of the two types I am; the test I took says ENFJ, but while I do highly appreciate one-on-one deep meaningful connections, I'm always subconsciously striving towards broader recognition among my social groups and to have as many acquaintances as possible.

[@lydiawulanastri6454]

feeling exactly the same! I've been reading and learning cognitive functions for a while now but am still very confused about the terms and definitions haha; and can relate too to the confusion! I have a lot of friends (and would love more) but I prefer having more intimate social settings, as in let's say a max of 3-5 people at a time when I hang out. which one does that make me tend more towards :/

[@Tified967]

My intuitive guess for both of you would be ESFJ. I'm a divergent ENFJ typed by CPT. What I will say is that with regards CPT as Harry is an Ni-Ti convergent I don't find the terminology and system as a whole difficult to grasp; I initially understood the holistic over view & then niched down with my Si-Ti+ to cross check/verify the veracity of the system. Evidently it's difficult to tell from a few lines of writing but I would say from speaking to other ENFJs that ESFJ is never a type id ever considered; due to the fluidity of my axis I actually thought I was a Ti dom or at least what is in MBTI framed as an NT type. Of course you may well be an ENFJ of a different subtype to myself.

[@onyxwelborne]

OMG you're back! I'm so glad! You're so adorable. 😘

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

Ahh thank you!!

[@MysticaAriYena]

did you read my mind? LoL I've just started looking in to the comparison of these two types. Got your book too, trying to make my way through it (I'm still in the tail-end of my burnout that caused quite a lot of issue with my cognitive abilities such as reading).

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

Awesome, I hope the video proves useful! Hope recovery is going well.

[@MysticaAriYena]

@@CognitivePersonalityTheory Thank you, same to you. Sorry late response, I don't seem to get a notification of reply on these things. :) Your suggestion that I might be an extrovert has made me research these types and I have honed in on ENFJ (which Erik Thor's test seems to confirm) but I'm not fully on board with everything that is being assigned to that type yet. You're the only one so far I've come across that doesn't seem to follow the general stereotypes and with at least 1 element that seems to match much more with me than the generally agreed upon ones (that of ENFJ preferring smaller groups over large crowds. What resonated with me especially was that they would prefer to see a crowd as one entity, rather than a collection of multiple entities. That's very much me). I'm looking forward to more insight from you, when you feel up to it of course. :)

[@brooklinnratto8315]

Thank you for the enfj vs esfj, I forget to give thanks sooner my apologies.

[@ReishaVanBern]

I was here before 100 views! Long time no see XD I'm glad to be watching your vids again. They're always good for my character writing. ^_^

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

Thank you my friend!

[@Moon0525_]

Future video ideas; "ESFP vs ENFP" and "5 signs you're not (either one of those)", given HOW much the two mistype as each other... But also how much the MBTI community likes to claim you're a mistype due to the tribalism surrounding dichotomy behaviour :P

[@SavannahPadberg]

Hi! I was hoping you could do a video about the ESFJ? That would be awesome!

[@frankhumble2024]

For next Christmas 🎄 (or before even better), I’d love to have a comparison video between ENTJ and ENTP, and another one between ENTJ and INTP.

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

Excellent suggestion my friend!

[@KierstynStJohn]

As an ENTJ who continually mistypes as an ENTP on those personality tests because I’m “messy”, I would appreciate this hahaha

[@Anonymei]

We miss your videos and want your return!

[@marcof.740]

I know you dedicated to much about enfj, anyway we really need one intj-enfj video now... 🎉

[@RumbleMcSkirmish7720]

Hi Harry, love your videos. Any chance you could do one on ENTPs vs ESTPs? Thanks!

[@Tified967]

I second this. I think my son is an ENTP or possible ESTP but I'm still deciding

[@joahchewbhaka5679]

You should integrate more Jungian theory to your unique approach of cognitive function. I think that type development needs the integration of the animus/anima and the shadow. Those are key components of Jungian theory that are full of misinterpretation.

[@callumAS]

Will you ever compare INFJ and INTP in a video? It could be helpful because they often mistype as each other.

[@aknkna7246]

Hi Harry, you look great! Especially with that new hairstyle. I'm glad you're back. I have a question. You talked about meditation in your video about dormant states. In a reply in that comment section you said that focusing on something external (SE) like the breath, puts one in a meditative state. That got me wondering about the affect of meditation on personality type. I've heard that enough meditation can permanently change one's brain to be more focused. It also decreases activity in the 'Default Mode Network' in which we think about the future, the past, other people and ourselves. (Maybe this is oversimplified but as functions these would be Ni, Si, Fe,Fi) How would this change the 16 personality types? Especially convergent feelers. If an INFP of ISFP would permanently change their brain through meditation to be focused, would he/she stop engaging their convergent functions? If convergent extroverted intuitives meditated, would they become half ENTJ's and ESFP's? This was a wall of text, I hope it wasn't too difficult to read. Would it be better if I asked these sorts of questions via email? Or should I write long comments like these?

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

Ahh thank you! Meditation can certainly change one's cognition for as long as it remains a habit; I suspect internal dialogue (the DMN) manifests as a more neutral position on the Ni-Si spectrum, which is definitely congruent with what you say! I suspect convergence and divergence would be more distributed here, and continuums more fluid - the Fi-Si pull of an INFP would be less neurotic, and the dominant axis more easily rotated. There *may* be more Fi-Ni, but it is also likely the INFP may become more ISTP-like to some extent. On the whole, the gateways do remain the same, but there is more fluidity and less ego-centric cognition (e.g. the ego being distributed across all cognition, and convergence with it).

[@aknkna7246]

@@CognitivePersonalityTheory Wow! So meditating can help us reach the ideal 'no type' you mentioned. Thank you for generously taking the time to reply to every single comment in every comment section of your video's. If that won't be possible in the future that's totally fine. It would be very selfish to take this for granted and to demand more. -A very (too) agreeable ENFP :)

[@bluetiger1372]

Finding my own type is proving to be difficult, I relate to many types but there always seems to be some aspect that doesn't quite fit. I would really like to learn more about the different personalities, not only to find out what type I am, but also as a writer, to create more interesting and diverse character. But I'm finding myself quite overwhelmed with the massive amount of information, I don't really know where to start. Do you have any advice?

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

It does take a good few months at the very least of understanding the functions, but once that understanding is in place you can observe yourself and begin to find preferences :)

[@novaimperialis]

By the way regarding my criticism towards CSJ about Ni and Ti. I have narrowed down that in the case of an INTJ I follow specific causes and effects with Te and Se and my Ni immediately forms a path on where that data or evidence will lead if the trend continues. In combination with Ti, I will make different categorizations for those processes or causes and effects applying to them different criteria based on my Ni and Ti in order to fit the exact contextual criteria that is most likely to be accurate. Dialectical Algorithmic cognition looking at possibilities and eliminating them, narrowing down to what's the most relevant to the current context. After I would have defined the exact process, from there I will use my ENTP unconscious Ne and I will be concentrating on the rudimentary words with which I made that judgment. From there, Ne with Si will lock unto the specific wording and in conjuction with Ti I will be looking for the most accurate wording to the situation at hand, whilst keeping in mind the Fi criteria that I observed in that process and that was validated by my Ti and Te. Thus merging Ti with Fi. Fi being the cause and criteria while Ti defining the causes and effects of Fi-Te into a single Ti category. Example: Effect-Last night I was standing awake Cause- I wasn't able to sleep Ti categorization-Insomnia Ti simplifies the link of causes and effects into one principle or category. Thus, because Te user also have Ti, that means that we are easily able to understand what a word or concept Ti implies in terms of its causes and effects Te. However, because Ti it's paired with Si in the INTJ, that means that I can also see what the intrinsic worth of that concept is with Ne as I understand the intrinsic value of words as I see the ways of how they can be transformed Ne. Less so than an ENTP, but I'm still able to do that. As such, I think that I grasp concept and reality really quickly if I'm interested in the subject. However, since my depression I have a really hard time determining the inner value of things, as Ni is still looking for impressions in order to determine if something has worth or not and it also needs to be vetted by Ti and then related and adopted by Fi. Otherwise *nihilism intensifies* As such, I think that the DA cognition represents my ENTp unconscious which sees the possibilities, but then it tries to narrow them down with the ego functions to just one overarching principle. Thus applying different criteria of thinking in order to determine the truth of the matter. This also means that since an INTJ has balanced Te and Ti that means that I see the dynamic of different concepts and their effects on reality. Instead of only seeing the relation of cause and effect of process, after I have categorized those process and defined them, I'm also able to see the dynamic of such different categories interact with other on a Ni Ti intuitive level. That's why I think the ILI is said to see the contradictions because of this ability. Also, I think that this is also the reason of why I make conspiracy theories and usually I'm right... I thought that I was being delusional, but it seems that this process is pretty logical in my opinion. Of course, having received wrong information, and starting from a wrong premise, I can be wrong. Still, I think that the Ni Ti pair looks behind details and can see the things underlying in the background. And since it isn't obssed with details then it can generalize those details to make them fit the current context of the situation. Thus minimizing the chances of making a wrong assumption because of wrong data as it tries to do the most out of the data available. Also, Ni and Ti means that I'm able to observe myself and feel the contradictions between statements intensely which will trigger a reaction from my Fi and I will need to satisfy them both. Ironically, my Fi works in a way that if I belive something that's correct but I do it in order to make myself satisfied, then my Fi will scream that it's principle of not being lied to is betrayed and thus, Ti will be called upon to present him the truth. That's why when I was a child I had a cognitive dissonance when lying. I would say truthful things even if I wasn't asked to. This will be so bad, that my ENTj father will catch me immediately as he will ask me and I wouldn't be able to find another excuse since that's the only cause and effect relationship I saw. At best I could just force myself to not say anything or make ommisions but I wasn't able to create a narrative around this. However, since now that Ni got a lot of impressions I'm more able to change views as I find that I have multiple world views which are against each other. If each has legitimitate positive aspects to it, then I can adopt that view in order to prove my point. Thus, I can appear to support communism and Marxism when dealing with my ENTj father as I like to move him out of his definite beliefs on philosophy. In this way, I can keep my values, whilst not being in conflict with any world view as I have integrated all of them(I'm still working on this). Because it's better to just move along with everyone philosophically speaking than to be in conflict with everyone. In this way, my Fi prefers to adapt itself to those different world views as it wants to be universal and include everything and everyone. Ni making it in such a way that there's no more about the individual, but about the truth and the ideal of total uniformity in world views. Thus my Fi its happily to be subdued as long as it's the truth and the biases are removed from all sides and all ideologies are stripped of their feelings away whilst recognizing the good and the bad of each one of them and that they are not valid by themselves but only when taken together. Likewise with every function and worldview. This is at least in theory.

[@novaimperialis]

However if the individual identifies with any ideology and its not based on truth, then I will strip that person of its belonging to that ideology by criticizing the shit out of that idea as I hate both traditionalists and progressists and also atheists and believers who follow things blindly and not from their own understanding of what the truth is. I think that that's why my depression triggered. Because I liked to identify with everything and everyone, but my ENTj father imbued me with a sense of idelogysm. That's why I realized at that moment at 16 yo that I'm not as him and that I want to present the other side of people through logic and truth and not some ideological background which doesn't remain in the heart of people since they don't identify with it because it is not congruent with the truth. I like to view both atheists and believers and also traditionalists and progressives as being one side of the same coin, and I want to make them understand philosophically that they are only misjudging each other. That's the same with types. However, some types are really hard to convince. I'm looking at you ISFp and ISFj. As the former is completely oblivious to anything else but tradition, while the latter is oblivious to everything else than but morals. When I tried to talk with my ISFj friend about socionics as a system and I portrayed as example the relationship between me and my INFJ friend and his Te PoLR, he got really indignant about me. Thinking that I was the one who was wrong. And also that I was the one who was guilty of making my ISFj friend so triggered that he made ethical arguements against my perspective saying that I remove individuality and that as such I'm guilty of making him to be triggered. When in fact I didn't remove individuality. I just tried to make him see that individuality can still be achieved even as a group. For that reason I used socionics. He instead defended his brother accusing me that I should have known better what he wants. When I tried to tell him that I can't take into consideration the needs of others when at least he doesn't aknweledge the fact that we are both equal and that I need to be understood as well, he still gave me the ethical argument. I hate the ethical argument when it has no logic in it. Although his Te oppositional made pretty good cause and effect connections like a machine-gun firing rate of fire. However those arguments lacked Ne and Ti. Regarding my INFJ friend, I also said that he should have listened to my explicit needs and to not choose in my place what he deems as being right for me and just doing the Fe stuff so that he can avoid confrontations and fool me into thinking that he agrees whilst judging me inside him. At that the replayed that why should he be vulnerable. I said that vulnerability as a precondition to communication and thus to the resolution of the conflict. At which he still made nonsensical ethical arguments. I though that those value judgment are based on truth in the delta. It seems that I was wrong. As such it seems that I'm not a delta and therefore not an Isfj or Ti PoLR. Still he was interested in learning socionics only that he wanted to not apply it in a pragmatic manner using examples. That's why I don't like feeler types because they feel they are mistreated when in fact they don't even care to cooperate in order to change the situation. It's not like logic is against you. You use logic to defend your feelings. So how it is your adversary? Logic takes into account all reality including yourself. Still, they don't recognize this and they think that you are just being to forceful with them. I think that this is how my Fe PoLR manifests. While even my ENTj father advertises me that I'm being to forceful and what that those social gaffes can isolate me and his philosophy is actually more positive than mine. At least in theory. However, I don't care about this as I take personal offense when the truth it's denied validity for the benefit of the false negative emotions that don't represent the truth of the situation. When the self Fi is aligned with the truth Ti, then positive emotions arise. That's what I want them to understand that they are being fooled by their own ego. Its interesting how Fi recognizes the authority of Ti in an INTJ whilst Ti tries to take into account validating or invalidating Fi needs. Another reason of why I hate types in general is that they are working based on the background program that they have in the unconscious. Especially feeler types.that's why it's so hard to interact with them since you know that they are not them. Only the robot that has taken control of the person. And if the robot marks you as their enemy then you are their enemy. It doesn't matter anything else. That's how my INFJ friend ignored me till now as he eliminated me completely from his world view even if I tried to explain myself. When you also think that Ni doms are the only ones who are supposed to remove their biases and let the observer observe itself, and yet they use their program functions which they don't even recognize, it's even more depressing. As such, my INFJ friend would use Fe as a method of not dealing with a situation so that he's Fi and Ti framework will be untouched. That's why I criticized him. Because I know that introvert is being selfish when it shows you the introverted side because that's what I do when I don't care as well. While when he cares about you, then he shows his extroverted functions(that's what model G suggest as well). That's how you know if he's being himself or is controlled by the program. While for the extrovert is the opposite. When I heard my ENTj father philosophy and understanding I was amazed about his categorizations and accuracy, but he manifested this philosophy in a completely different manner. That's why your friend is a potential enemy. Because you can never know when his emotions and unconscious program will mark you as it's enemy. I see how prideful an individual is based on his demonstrative also knows as the showy function. You can see the arrogance of an Fi demonstrative from a distance and it really stinks. Likewise, you can see the same arrogance of Ti demonstrative as well. It also stinks. However the difference between the tow is that the former is unconscious, while the second can became more conscious. As such he will do nasty Fi projections at which I will criticize the hell of it as he will do it in a manner that shows how he's superior and that everyone is an ignorant thinking himself to be a victim and then becaming a perpetrator does making others victims to his victimhood. Forgetting that he's not the only one with Ni dom. That I can related to his way of being and yet I don't consider myself superior to anyone. But when you step on my tail, then prepare yourself to see the equivalent of the superiority that you are showing of yourself. Its like I don't like to be offensive and I try to make things work, but when you don't recognize me as equal to you, then I want to throw you of your throne. As being a leader means guiding others for their own good, not yours. Power should be used responsibly. That's how the critic arises... What do you think Harry? I hope that I didn't scare you! I feel as if you at least are going through this process but Fi demonstratives who don't are really annoying as they don't see that the cause of the conflict is their capricious emotions. That's why I still want a friend, Harry, please renounce your Fe mask. I want to integrate our worldviews and be honest to each other. That's why I hate the programs in the to and Fe on INFJs because I'm not able to enhance my understanding by integrating his understanding. For me love is understanding. If someone doesn't understand them, then doesn't love. He loves himself. Understanding also means communication. If you don't want to communicate and let the ego be vulnerable, then you don't want to understand, and so you don't want to love. I hate my ego since it limits me. I hate it when it limits the other and he can't reach its full potential because of it. Also, I hate being critical to others, but I hate it also when they are not being critical to themselves and are not trying to better themselves, and those actions in a friendship also have consequence on me sometimes. BTW, now I'm expressing my extroverted side since I present what I think about the world at the macrosoial level Ne-Fe but through the lens of Fi. This I do only with people I feel comfortable with. This is one of the moments in which I became vulnerable and I can fully express myself and I want to hug a person. However, when I see that the person didn't reach its potential and thus I don't see value in it, then I return to myself and I also don't see value in it, then I immediately turn cold and then I spiral into a nihilistic death circle of a lack of value and goodness and intrinsic worth. I think that the reason that I opened so much is because the kindred social dynamics is presenting itself in that I feel comfortable and thus I can fully express myself. With others non INFJs I tend to want to express myself, but then I quickly turn cold once I'm not being received a sign of interest and also when I see that the other person can't understand me and it's on a completely different plane of existence than me. Again, what you think Harry? Sorry for making such long comments but Fi is personal and I can't always condensate it in a few words since they would lose their meaning. You can tell me if it is not interesting to you and I will stop. This is a first step to honesty since you will renounce yourself your Fe authority defense mechanism, and I will renounce my Fi biases. I think that Fe PoLR presents itself in the way that I feel very weird discussing things like this and that it could be labeled as weird by others as well. However, I embrace my weirdness. Waiting for your response!

[@rhynimstonehedge5271]

@@novaimperialis Hello, I suppose that is a way of starting a necro post on an obscure video coming across my feed. I am rather new TO the jargon and Lingo used in your post (Perhaps, a total of 30 hours of fractured shallow studying), and Unfortunately can understand it in an intrinsic level, however consciously I am having issues expressing it in words that are as well crafted and well thought out as yours. I Empathize, Understand, Feel, the isolation that can come from having such a deep understanding of what seems to be rather simple concepts to you. That others without the experiential knowledge and passion that you seem to hold for the subject had not been able to connect to you and converse in a manner that you and they both could understand at the depth and breath that you wish to converse at, that you are able to converse at. I, "FEel" the frustration, building a bit like one would feel the waves under there boat traveling across the see, the toss and turn from frustration, exasperation, into a receding swell of Lost, Isolation, Of being able to see these things in others, wanting them to be able to understand, to be able to communicate with them. To have some one take the time to understand you as you wish to under stand them. I do hope your situation has improved since your commenting here, this outpouring into the void, and have developed and grown since this post. If not, I "FElt" compelled to respond with something hopefully approaching what was being sought and desired. I am a rather privet extrovert, And to see such an unadulterated outpouring, without using the stop button or delete button, to see your thought processes laid bare to any all and sundry to see, it was both beautiful, and humbling. If you still seek to converse with one whom may listen and reciprocate. I may not yet speak all the words that you use, but I would find the conversation something that I could most defiantly learn from, If not hope to return the favor in an equitable manor.

[@Tified967]

As the person who replied before also mentioned, I was deeply humbled and intrigued by your writing. You've given me a window into your Ni-Fi world (I will use CPT terminology here as this is the system I believe to be the most nuanced, logically cohesive and fluid typological system). I'm a divergent ENFJ who has a lot of Ni-Fi that 'builds up in the background' and besides that, could actually relate to your perspective on many levels. Please feel free to reach out. My axis is particularly fluid so I can and invariably do, present like a Ti dom and I can't say that I'm always met with a thoughtful response - actually I'm ignored much of the time and I don't think I come across as particularly egotistical - I just value the truth more, irrespective of what people feel about it. Please feel free to reach out.

[@nyarhiki]

This might be a very plethoric question in nature, however my sensory functions of an intuitive judgement sociopath prefers to evoke the lens cap from its immersive tides. Express to me your preferred film that enables your enjoyment. A question such as this may be referred to as existential, however you may seek what you will. May you discover success within these insightful dawns.

[@gr1ff1ndor35]

Hii, first of all I wanted to say that I really like your videos and your explanations. I have a question for you, if it’s not too much trouble :) I’ve asked my friends in order to see my personality from a more objective perspective which functions they can see in me. I gave them a really short chart with key words for each function so it wasn’t anything special. The thing is they all replied they saw Ne and Si and Fe and Fi. One of them told me I have both inf Te and Ti issues (i am using mbti terminology cause I am more familiar with it so sorry if you don’t support it much). I believe my Ne and Si are in the middle and balanced so ig my question is can an ESFJ appear as an INFP or an INFP as an ESFJ? Or is it sth different?

[@gabrielalsham2192]

The Reason I ask for this, is because I've always been typed as an INTJ on every online test there is, yet LIE is socionics and type 8 Sp in enneagram with a tritype 835 which is more common for the ENTJ personality type as listed on many online sources! I relate to the LIE ENTj description the most (even though I didn't have the patience to read through all the details) ,Yet I've often felt more like an Introvert than an extrovert because I'm very introspective , philosophical and "spaced out" especially when the outside world seems so mundane and there isn't enough stimuli or objectives!

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

Honestly any extraverted type is going to space out when the external world is not engaging - an ENTJ is certainly more likely to 'make it' engaging, however, but they generally require their own space in order to make this happen.

[@gabrielalsham2192]

@@CognitivePersonalityTheory Thank you for your insights and for the effort you put in making those videos! This is only half of my comment actually !! I'm not sure if you noticed the first part below, it wouldn't post as one comment , so I had to split it! Thanks again Harry & Regards!

[@brooklinnratto8315]

The KZbin sixteenleo is a fantastic example of an enfj

[@magicalpasta5462]

Me who has self-doubt and intrusive thoughts, well this hit me hard like a brick to a face

[@milota-_-3268]

Yoo another homestuck there and also a blood player! (I'm probably Enfj, and a Mage/Seer of blood for sure!)

[@unme1834]

Do you think that an ESFJ might actually be typically just as likely to notice inconsistencies within their logical frameworks as an ENFJ? An ENFJ has a more general perception of Ti which could lead them to recognize that certain parts aren't fitting together fairly easily but an ESFJ might be just as likely to realize it because building up a precise framework on a smaller scale might lead them to want to make sure that every step is accurate before moving onto the next part which would in turn make them really aware of any inconsistencies too.

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

I'd say it would be evenly split, but with the ENFJ more sensitive to principle-based dissonance and the ESFJ more concerned with the Si nuance :)

[@crybabyfish1647]

Hey, could you maybe do a comparison between esfj and intp? I first typed myself as an isfp/infp, but I wasnt quiet sure and asked the internet. I have written an essay (which took me the whole day/ and 2 years to actually puzzle everything together) and posted it on reddit. I was mostly typed as an intp, and by a few people as an esfj. Both actually surprised me because I thought I was on the Fi-Te axis, not Fe-Ti/Ti-Fe. Personally I'm still not sure. I think I might be an unusual esfj. I'm not 100% sure if I'm an esfj, but for now I go with it.

[@franciscotamecruz1108]

INTP please! I really like your videos and method

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

Thank you - it's on its way!

[@carter_dj]

Hi, quick question - convergent usually refers to moving towards a solution and being logical and structured, like black and white, while divergent moves away from a single idea and generates several different solutions, keeping the doors open. How does your definitions line up with these?

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

If you posit convergence in regards to the ego, then we are talking about the ego either converging into or withdrawing from subject matter.

[@Rapsukki]

Hey Harry, first of all, thanks for all the great work you do here! I can't get past that there seems to be something weird happening at the end of the video with the types and functions (the dormant stage-part). Seems like you mixed the two types up, or did I just misunderstand it..? Thought you would like to check, if there was a mistake that happened with words or something :) Anyhow, good vibes for your new book! PS. I know it's a big ask, and that you're busy, but I'm going to ask anyway. So in this video, do you feel like the INFJ-typing is accurate? kzbin.info/www/bejne/oIPSipaufayZnNU

[@Lina88838]

Ok I seem to be a mix of an Esfp and an Enfp. I like living in the moment but I love to fantasize. I love knowing peoples personal stories, so that I can know how to cheer them up, or cheer for them. I am attracted to positive thinking. I also feel introverted at times. I can be the life of the party. But I don’t like being the center of attention too much; unless I am lost in the moment. I like climbing, and getting lost in meditation. I love fantasizing, and planning the possibilities of a possible future. I have impeccable reflexes. I can sometimes be clumsy too. Like stub my toe or foot. I like sensations as much as getting excited about future possibilities. I am half flower child adventurer and half skeptical scientist/ detective. I love too feel. Can there be some cases where Se and Ne are equally developed in a person. I can go to A to Z in a conversation connecting all of the ideas. I can also be very detailed in conversation and concrete. I go back in forth between being a realist, and being a dreamer through my intuition. My eyes seem like an intuitive/ observant type and sensor dart look as well. I know that knowing what type of personality type someone has can benefit them immensely, so I was just wondering what do you think?

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

Interesting! You may have a more fluid use of this continuum; your writing style implies more Se-Te than Ne-Te, as statements are shorter and more list-like. I'll make a type comparison for this at some point!

[@Lina88838]

🙏 thanks

[@Lina88838]

Also could I too be an ambivert?

[@Lina88838]

I am passionate and content. I have an even balance of maturity and playfulness. I am not too much of either. I am confident, yet I am private about my deepest concerns. I am friendly but not personal; only with a few I will share my pearls with. I have to know them on a deeper level; or get a feel for them within my intuition. Because if I do share with them on a deeper level; and the true relationship truly isn’t up to pare. Then I will feel over exposed. Ive tried exploring all of the Extraverted Enf’s and Esf’s. I even got an Infj the first couple of times 😂. I only laugh because I am indeed an Enf or Esf. But now I believe, that your conclusion is an Esfp; with some highly developed Ne, for me because of my writing style. I loved thinking that I was an Infj. Because I am bubbly. And yet I am lone woofish; when I am need of a getaway. I love to debate on deeper meanings. I am true to my heart. And if I find the issue at hand, to be a just cause. Then I will work tirelessly until a goal is met. I will even forget to eat. I believe in being an advocate. And In the past, I did have trouble finishing a project at times. Also I would usually finish projects at the last minute. Not anymore, but I used to be fluent in that. I am a helper type. But I am also slightly stern; when it comes to balancing out my own needs as well. Of course it’s only when I feel that someone might be taken advantage of my hospitality. I am laidback yet proper. I am girly and athletic. I am adventurous yet cautious. So I think that I am more of an ambivert version. What do you think and thanks for your feedback of expertise. It’s always wonderful too be true to one’s authenticity. So thanks a million 🙏

[@topatrisha]

I hope you will do a “how to know if youre not an INTP, couse I always get INTP or ENTP on tests and im so confused 😭

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

Working on it!

[@unobjectivepersonality2498]

Am I aloud to make a discord and a subreddit based around CPT

[@Lina88838]

I also get tongue tied when I am stressed. I like speaking my mind; yet I am proper too. It’s just so confusing. And I am trying to get into 5D. Yes I am spiritual but also realistic. It’s like half and half. I can be shy and very expressive. I am not shy, like timid. But I am shy like revealing too much of myself. And and I only feel uncomfortable when I have revealed deep personal feelings. But not when it’s spare of the moment emotions. Like sensations or ideas of the future. Since the glass is not always half full. Do you think that it is at all possible that a person could have developed equally both Ne and Se?

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

A person can certainly develop both Se and Ne, but the gateway (primary function) remains unchanged :)

[@Lina88838]

I’m an ENFP with high Se. I think before I write ✍️ but I get lost in ideas. Or if I am inspired I just wing it.

[@Lina88838]

But I am not very detailed I hate list. But I love writing on a whim. Actually I should say typing on a whim.

[@Lina88838]

I guess I was lost, because I was going through; the dark not of the soul with my twin flame. I don’t believe in the theory; but rather the science behind it. So I was needing an awakening. But I believe the biblical truth of it is “what God hath joined together no man can put us under”. Well, something like that. I’m not a bible scholar or anything just a believer. So maybe that can help explain my confusion of my mbti type prior.

[@byzantcrusader8198]

What do you think about these Harry? akhromant.tumblr.com/post/167738058235/some-basics-about-psychological-types-1-what-is akhromant.tumblr.com/post/168011265210/more-typology-mistakes-and-bad-habits Asura started to dive in this kinda of stuff recently as well.

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

Ah yes, I believe this individual sent me a message with these a while back - the thinking is similar to my own interpretation of Jung, which I used to form the bedrock for CPT!

[@dimarcs7622]

Hi, I have a bit of a random question but what’s the difference between an fi-si loop and a ti-si loop? I’m fairly confident I’m an intp but I’m starting to second guess myself

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

A true loop will tend to take place absent a dip function - an Fi-Si dialogue in a vacuum is completely oriented around self concept and relational substrate (including imagery), whereas Ti-Si in the same position is analysing entirely detached frameworks and precisely refining definitions. Most of such 'loops' however tend to be that of Diver subtypes, so all introverted functions are therefore activated. Still, Fi is still 'optional' for the INTP, and Ti similarly optional for the INFP. Therefore, one should look to whether an emotionally attached dialogue is more compulsive than one more detached.

[@dimarcs7622]

@@CognitivePersonalityTheory hmm that’s hard for me to figure out still haha, I’m pretty sure I prefer Ti to Fi but they’re very similar so it’s difficult to pinpoint the differences, hence why I asked the difference between the loops

[@Mioochii]

ESFJ sounds more familiar to me than enfj

[@atomnous]

I notice you haven't been uploading in a while. You ok?

[@Lina88838]

Ok so I am definitely more of an Esfp.

[@jaredvaughan1665]

I think you would be easier to understand by simply calling the 2nd and 4th functions "observant." And do away completely with the confusing terms "convergent" and "divergent."

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

I appreciate the sound intentions, but I use CPT terminology for a reason - convergence and divergence are measurements of the ego and loci of control, simply calling divergent functions observant would only demonstrate half of what I am trying to convey :)

[@jaredvaughan1665]

@@CognitivePersonalityTheory Yes and the increase of subscribers as a result of being better understood might go to your head to make you less humble, which wouldn't be good. So keep up the opaque language!

[@theloniusmonk1263]

Dear Mr CPT, when you first launched your channel I honestly thought your videos were trash, however they have grown on me somewhat, and you have a lot of good insights in them. Could you possibly make a video for all of us explaining the nomenclature you have adopted and why? Thanks.

[@m4x358]

Jazz and MBTI, great to see that combination! Monk might've been an INTP, what do you think...

[@theloniusmonk1263]

@@m4x358 possible, but he seemed to have high level Se to me, so perhaps ISTP.

[@m4x358]

@@theloniusmonk1263 Interesting! Tell me why you think that

[@theloniusmonk1263]

@@m4x358 because to play piano at that level requires a high level of sustained outwardly directed concentration and kinesthetic ability.

[@sauldogeman2816]

I'm a bit confused by one thing: why are the ESFJ's Ne and the ENFJ's Se being referred to as the "auxiliary"? Aren't they tertiary functions?

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

Something of a semantic issue; for a function to be auxiliary it plays an assistive role. If the auxiliary was facing the opposing direction to the dominant, it would be providing a counterbalance more than assisting. As such (and from my interpretation of Jung's original words), CPT considers the auxiliary to be of the same orientation to the dominant, whereas the Authority (MBTI auxiliary) is a strong counter to dominant agenda.

[@sauldogeman2816]

@@CognitivePersonalityTheory OK, thank you.

[@novaimperialis]

Harry, I think that I had discovered another counter argument against your claim of the ENTJ label. This is a comment to an ENFp whose channel is oriented towards development for this type: "I think that I had found the difference between the ENFp, ENTp, and INTJ and INFJ. Since the first two have Si as their inferior or oppositional function, that means that besides the PoLR of socionics, this is one of the most weaker functions. However, in socionics, those types have Se as their role function. Meaning that they have easier access to it. As such, for an ENFp and an ENTp is easier to make decisions on the moment using their Se. However, because they have stronger access to Se, and less to Si, that means that those types have a harder time learning from their mistakes. On the other hand, INTJ and INFJs have Si as their role. Meaning that they will ruminate more on their past in order to see what mistakes they did, and how they can correct them in the future Ni. Since their Se is inferior or oppositional and is weaker than their Si, that means that they will be in a constant state of rejecting reality and reflecting. I wrote this because I was about to ask you based on some things that I wanted to say, if I'm an ENFp or INTJ. However, since I had discovered this difference, I think that the answer is pretty clear. You can still tell me if it is relatable to you as an ENFp. Is it?" Link for the video itself if you don't agree with his ENFp label: kzbin.info/www/bejne/Y6PLhqiCh7qDr6M So this actually makes the difference between introverts and extroverts. Extroverts have more readily access to Se and to act based on Ne potentialities, while introverts have more readily access to Si ruminating upon their mistakes, and Ni thinking of how they can correct them in the near future. So overall, we have the main difference that extroverts have quicker access to all extroverted functions, while introverts have more access to introverted functions. In case of psychological distress, the introvert and the extrovert are even more locked in their orientation. I know that I made the comment that validated your system, but the truth of reality is that especially in the modern age, we are even more divergent from our other pole. Ideally, that would be our goal, but we are far from it. As such, since I don't have those extroverted capacities, and I first need to plan a lot and reflect, I dare contradict you and deflect your ENTJ claim, again... Another fact is that it also means that ENTJs and every extrovert have limited access to the introverted judging functions, namely Fi and Ti. Not only to the introverted perceiving functions Ni, and Si, that I mentioned in that commentary, but to those as well. As if I was really an ENTJ, then I would have trusted only the sources. But since I have convergent access to Fi, I'm better able to evaluate if those sources resonate to me or not, and discard those that don't meet the necessary own inner standard or criteria. Because all my understanding is based on bits and pieces from every source. Not only to a few trusted sources. But even opposing stances to my own. This amount of reflection Fi, is uncharacteristic of an extrovert who has Fi as his oppositional function which means that he has a difficult time in accessing it. For example, if you were to point out a mistake of mine, and you were also able to tell me on which criteria you made that claim, I'm better able to adapt. This adaptation and self transformation, like your system proves also, is characteristic of an Ni-Fi convergent pair and not a divergent one. Since it is part of my conscious power to choose this and It doesn't happen unconsciously. This is in opposition to how my ESTJ father procceses information. You were actually right about him. He takes only the sources that support his bias, without taking into account the others that contradict it. However, I especially give special importance to the opposing stances because they give me clues on where I need to improve my reasoning. On the other hand, he only rejects them when they don't suit his other trusted sources. He actually doesn't have an inner flexible standard or criteria to evaluate the information on. His thinking is dependent only on the trusted sources, and he can't form conclusions outside it. So you contradicted yourself when you applied the ENTJ label because that type has Ti-Si concrete understanding framework of something in your system, which contradicts with my style of thinking as it looks at all sides of the coin before taking any position. And that concrete thinking is actually of an ESTJ, not ENTJ, which I'm not either! Since: Also, you contradicted yourself Harry when you told me that I have divergent thinking. If I had divergent thinking, then how am I an ENTJ based on your system? Since you claim that an ENTJ has convergent access to both sides of it? Also, my ESTJ father emotional attachments are really unconscious in their nature. If you hurt him and he likes you, he can be taken advantage of very quickly. For instance, if I get upset and I don't talk to him, he then procceds to talk to me or to buy me something to make me think highly of him again. For this, he can easily be manipulated by my conflicting ESFJ step mother as she pretends that she likes him, and he takes the bait. Sometimes I can actually predict his actions. Actually, that's the sole reason of why I don't give up to his actions. Because I know that he does this only so that we are on the same page at the appearance level. But not at the thinking level where this behavior first is born. Then it is proven to me that I was right and it was only on appearances level. So for me is different. Even if I like someone. If I see a small thing that denotes that this person is untrustworthy, then I won't tell him or her, but my behavior will be changed. In order to do this, a simple clue in the form of what words a person says, or does, or attitudes towards something is enough. Then, I justify my reasoning by that this small clue is part of his ego, and as such, it will continously make its appearance and it will get even worse if the psychological distance will get closer. Only for my INFJ and ENTP friends did I let this slip by. I was conscious of those clues, but I preffered to trust my friends anyway. The difference between my emotions processing and that of my ESTJ father, is thus that he procceses them unconsciously, and he can get taken advantage of, while I process them semi consciously, and I can better defend myself. However, when I know that this person has ill intent, then I can reason my criticism towards her and distance from it. In contrast to my INFJ friend, however, those clues and intuitions need to be well reasoned before I trust them. For him, he acts and decides quicker on those clues. For me, I act and decide quicker if those clues are supported by evidence. For instance, the knowledge of a type's dynamic can influence my last judgment. Actually, my main mistake is that I didn't taken those intuitions or trusted them, even if they seemed correct, because I wanted more data. But the fact of observing them is a conscious act, not an unconscious one. I ruminate over the correlations between theories, systems, and how based on those, people will act or think a certain way, or how a system is contradicting itself based on his own premises, and as such, how those mistakes can lead to even more problems. However, all of those theories and correlations actually have one central and original idea that glues them together. Then it also is proven, to my own disspointement, that I was right. Actually, another difference between me and my ESTJ father is that I usually form my own conclusions regarding things before I even research the information. However, I still research the opposing sources to be sure if I'm right or wrong. So the difference is that the sources are a vehicle on which I can express my own conclusions and correlations and theories. For him, they are an end in itself without which he's lost if he doesn't have access to it. Then I'm usually interested in researching the opposing positions because they make me understand what I need to improve upon on my own theories and understanding. So I already start with a rough idea of something, sources only make me to perfect that understanding. For instance, when I was 16, I knew what money are good for. I knew that money are a way of evaluating the total amount of goods that a country produces that denotes its total economical power, without taking up economics lesson or anything like that. I just intuitively knew the concept of GDP. Which of course, my father was surprised of this since I wasn't even in high school yet where I first studied economics. I still have this ability, but the process of reasoning it is more blurred than before my depression. Before I would actually have a clear picture of that concept or image. Now, it's harder to explain it, and that's why I need sources in order to act as a vehicle to explain it all more clearly. However, I only need a few sources, and then my once blurred image becames clear. Further research only validates that further. Those are also a product of conscious reflections. Even from that age. All of this leads to the next point which is that if I were to be a Te domminant, then I would have been able to explain my ideas easier. Which is not the case. So this is the Cassandra complex of a mainly Ni domminant type. Which also leads to another point which is that maybe depression strengthens the opposition between Ni and Se, and as such, Te interacts as the bridge between the two. So there remains only one option, and that is the INTJ type. If you want to respond to this, then please tell me your reasoning that made you to think as such. Only if we use the same criteria, can we reach a common ground.

[@novaimperialis]

Wow, you seem to ignored all my points and now saying that I'm an ESTJ. First of all, I have one video about historical games which is about Rome Total War, and the other videos are about a grand strategy game called Realpolitiks and a shooter PUBG. So your assertion that my channel is about only history is wrong. Secondly, being combatitive is not a sufficient criteria. If you look in socionics, since you brought up the labels from there, you would see that an ILI INTJ has Ni- which is universal in nature. While Ni+ is specialized(ENTJ, ESTJ). Further more, if you look at Gulenko forms of cognition, you would see that the cognitive process of an ILI INTJ is dialectical alghritimic thinking and it deals with the oppositions. Also, if you would understand Carl Jung, you would see that besides the domminant function, there is an auxiliary function which he stated that is divided between the conscious and the unconscious. One introverted and the other extroverted. Jung also stated that an introvert and an extrovert remain locked in their orientation. Further more, being combatitive in writting format requires a great deal of introverted energy. This kind of energy is characteristic of an introvert locked in his orientation. For instance, my ILE ENTP friend is quicker at debates when he can talk and weak when he has to write. My combatitive nature shows only when I write. When I speak, I can't structure my thoughts as well as my ILE ENTP friend and I can only explore. So the fractal thinking that you attribute to an ESTJ is not characteristic only of him. Actually all intutives use fractal thinking to a certain extent. Because you can't bring any intuitive thought without using some kind of fractal thinking. Even the LII INTP uses holographic panoramic fractal thinking. So this is not a valid argument. And also, of course that I'm making conjectures, I'm studying this topic for 3 or 4 years. I have accumulated enough knowledge to start making connections. Or you still think that after such a long time, an INTJ would simply rely only on his divergent thinking and he won't check the information against his convergent and conscious intuition+ feeling? Also, it's not about whether you use fractal thinking or not. It's about if you use it right or bad. My ESTJ father uses intuition poorly. As much as you would abide by Harry system, you cannot deny the fact that an intuitive would use less sensory overall. So an intuitive is less likely to be as imposing in the sensory aspect as you would expect from an ESTJ. So from saying that an ESTJ uses intuition and saying that he's better at it than a born intuitive, even tho he uses more sensing that intuition overall, it's quite a big and shakey leap. Also, my father as a Te dom, it's quite bad at reflection and he instead uses projection when feeling threatened. You cannot talk with my father when he speaks as he will ignore the argument completely and will rely only on his preconceived notions. His lack of the ability to self reflect is quite characteristic of an extrovert who has weaker access to the introverted functions. For me, it's the contrary. I became hyper conscious of every thing that I say and how it could be wrong. That's why I cannot argue as well when speaking, but only in writting. Another thing is that I'm really bad at sensory stuff. My reaction time is too low in order to have a strong sensory function. Most of the time I just philosophize about the sensory world. That's why I can't get anything done. While he has such a good reaction time that he is able to micromanage everyone and even deal with the practical stuff when it cames to repairing and other stuff. More than that, he can really be intense in a conversation as tho he's conscious of his surroundings and he can use this awareness in order to pressure his opponent. For me, it's the contrary. So there's quite a big leap between our cognitive processes. He uses inutuition poorly, but he uses sensing in a correct way, while I'm conscious when I'm using intuition and therefore, I try my best to be better at what I'm doing, but I'm still bad at the sonsory aspect because I put to much energy in reflection and intuitive philosophizing. So you can contradict me only if you say that an ESTJ is better than an INTJ at intuition, which I don't think that you would dare to make such an assumption. So your argument in relation to the ESTJ using macroscopic intuition, and therefore being better at intuition than an overall intuitive, is flawed and wrong. You were right about the concrete experience tho. I had no clue before my depression of my identity. It was this abstract and general kaleidoscopic feeling, just like Harry described it in one of his videos. This is the reason why I couldn't stand for myself, and in combative situations I thought that I'm the one who is wrong, although my intuition always was right and proved my hypothesis. I also thought that everyone is inherently good, so I moved the focus from the outside to the inside by reflecting more on my actions than on the actions of others. So you have to take into account another factor, that the ego is a defense mechanism to the psyche. So an individual can get access to all functions if he overcames the ego, not only to a few. Also, since then, I practiced a lot of meditation. So I think that this is why I have conscious control of those things as well. Because meditation makes you more conscious of your overall processes. In short, those are not static processes, they are dynamic, so relying on a singular static framework to describe all of this reality can be quite misleading. That's why I use multiple frameworks of reference. Thirdly, applying the ESTJ label without checking for further evidence contrary to your own assumption, shows a lack of understanding of the other POV. Not to mention that it also demeanors the other person POV by putting it in the sensory label. Fourthly, my kind of philosophy is not the one who you assume to be. My kind of philosophy is analytical in nature. It deals not with generals or events from history or whatever, it deals with the underlying principles of what the truth or reality is. Also, its very mechanistic. So you cannot bring me the argument of using Si authority since my focus is not on past events, but on the development of processes, and how those processes are composed mechanistically. Thus, I extract underlying truths and principles from those developments. When you are saying only events or generals or whatever, that shows a focus on the facts themselves, but I do not focus on those, but on the implications and on the development that those facts brought. But more so than the development, I focus on the implications which is holistic thinking. By seeing the implications from those developments, I can extract those underlying truths, which is the intuition of time or Ni in socionics. So the focus here is not nostalgia of the past, but reflection of the implications that the past will have in the future. Even if you don't agree with intuition of time as being Ni, then you still need to recognize that seeing the implications of an event still requires the use of the whole brain regions in finding the information that is pertaining to that situation. So I think that this is still a sign of using Ni perceving lens and it still doesn't contradict with socionics definition of intuition of time or Ni either. So I think that you first need to recognize the assumptions that you work on, before moving on, as otherwise, we won't get anywhere. In short, you rely on to few criteria and evidence in order to make those assumptions. You could add me on reddit and we can talk further. My username is ByzantCrudader. Tell me if you accept my offer.

[@novaimperialis]

@@twilbry7807 This kind of intuition, intuition of time, is portrayed by Gulenko as follows: "State T at the intellectual level forms the most abstract type of thinking, which reflects the global processes of the external world conditioned by time. The law of entropy - a steady transition from more organized forms of life to more chaotic and simplified - lies at the heart of T-thinking. Birth, becoming, death and rebirth in other forms - this is the kind of information that occupies the human brain in this state." If this is not intuition of time that sees the implications, then I don't know what it is. " If in the I state a person obtains knowledge from within himself, from his subconscious layers of the psyche, then in the T state the information comes from outside - from the "Cosmos". Thinking by the intuition of time occurs in dynamic visual forms. At the same time, the eyes go up and make small fluctuations, as if trying to follow the movement of the image." My thinking style is based on this moving image that Gulenko states. I see the implications of a think and then I follow them. That's why in my speech pattern, I need time to think my answer before responding, as I need to translate my vision into words. This is an accord with an intuitive domminant who has problems when speaking because he foccuses first and foremost on his perception and then he translates it into words. This is in opposition with someone like Jordan Peterson who's a Te dom, and he can verbalize first and viziualize second, like he said as well. " The steady state T in society leads to the consolidation of the informal role of the "reflector". In this state, a person predicts the entire socio-psychological dynamics of the team - it is, as it were, a sensitive indicator of changes. It, like a drop of water, reflects everything bad and good that was, is and will be in this group of people." This is where it leads. By seeing the implications that an event can lead to, you can predict not only the socio-psychological dynamic of a team, but also the socio-political dynamic. So the difference between macroscopic thinking and intuition of time is that the first is based in real time. Te-Ne, where Ne communicates with Se, so it foccuses on the near future based on the current circumstances, without taking into account were those actions can lead to or what implications they can have in the far future. Whereas Ni, intuition of time, sees the events unfolding and can understand the implications of those actions as he sees them in a continuous state(Ni-Se continuity). Ne sees them in disperate states(Ne-Si fixed possibilities based on a specific moment in time) This is why with my ILE ENTP friend, since he's an Ne dom and has fixed possibilities in time(Ne-Si), this is why he gets frustrated when I show the implications that a thing can have in the far future, and I bring a continuous stream of thought(Ni-Se), as opposed to his disperate novel seeking thought pattern(Ne-Si). Here's the link for Gulenko description of intuition of time Ni: facebook.com/groups/261766807568059/permalink/1050272645384134/

[@dimaalobaidy9973]

We want INTJ or INTP one

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

Excellent point!

[@jackshit1723]

You are probably Ni hero function. Cause those would more likely talk of themselves as multiple persons without any rational reason. INTPs are very precise thinkers and speakers. They would usually not make up themselves to be multiple persons simply for the fact of it is not the truth and it is imprecise.

[@dimaalobaidy9973]

@@jackshit1723 I'm new to mbti community and I don't know much about ne te stuff , I just tried the 16personalities and some other tests and all said that I'm an intj but I want to be sure cause these test aren't very accurate so I'm doing me researches and learning to find out , if you have and want to share some information that would be nice.

[@jackshit1723]

​@@dimaalobaidy9973 You can't be accurately typed by a comment and sometimes even an hour of talking with someone wont be enough. But there are hints. First of all it is important to understand that jungian psychology is not mbti. MBTI gave the letter system that is being used by advanced techniques as well to keep it easy, even tho it has some flaws. MBTI only knows 4 function slots, which is pretty incomplete no matter from which direction you are looking at it. To help you identify your type it is very helpful to include the 8 functions of John Beebe's 8 function model as some of those are very distinctive. The first thing you should look at when you are doing a test like 16personalities.com is how close are the %-numbers they tell you are to 50%. Cause that doesn't actually exist to be 55% extraverted. Either your hero function is extraverted = 100% or not = 0%. But these can give you hints to understand how likely you would be a mistype. Cause that test would make you an ENTJ instead of and INTJ if you were 51% extraverted instead of 51% introverted, which completely mixes up the stack of functions. So close values to 50% indicate higher chance of mistyping in that very regard: I vs. E; P vs. J; T vs. F; N vs. S. So if your results are like 70%+ of each of those its less likely to be a mistype according to that test than if your numbers (or a single) they give you are close to 50%. You are most likely not an INTP. An INTP would not talk of themselves as multiple persons ever (cause of Fe inferior + Ti hero). That is probably for sure. INTP are top 1 precise thinkers and probably top ~4 precise speakers. They take pride in being precise, truthful and sharp. Also INTPs like me like to make many words about things, what you do not seem to do with that one liner. INTPs give too much information and INTJs give not enough information. If you want to give indication for someone to type you, it is better to write a few more lines at least so it can be analyzed. I would say from the gut INFJ or INTJ or ENTJ is what you should look out for first if the tests give you INTJ. I have heard many Ni heroes talking of them as multiple persons actually, so INTJ sounds reasonable. ENTJ and INFJ would do that as well however I believe.

[@jackshit1723]

The situation an INTP would potentially talk in multiple persons of are: 1. If they explain you something e. g. at the computer that you should follow like "first we go settings, then we go power managament". 2. In situations where they talk in fact for multiple people like them and their company, them and their wife, them and their children. And so on.

[@davionpendleton9086]

I’ve been an esfj for like 3 years then I became an enfj briefly and now I’m esfj again.

[@idontgooutside5514]

fk

[@littleviolet510]

How are you? You didn't take the v..., did you?

[@novaimperialis]

What do you think Harry?! Chase I'm disspointed to bring you the bad news, but your system is completely flawed. You show 0 understanding of the cognitive functions relating cognitive functions only through the lens of your own experiences. Applying definitions and criteria for types only based on how they made you to feel and how you perceived them to behave. You are not interested in actually seeing what their cognitive wiring is, you just apply labels, and yet you complain of others applying labels... Tell me for example, how isn't applying labels the realm of Ti as it creates categories?! You praise a lot Ti and yet you can't define it. You only use your experiences to justify the use or the lack of it. How is Te not about logic when it's an extroverted function concerned with the accumulation of data about the causes and effects about actions. As Te cares about the effect, that's why is stereotypically portrayed as driven to efficiency because it cares about the final effect. While Fi is the cause of something. This means that the Te-Fi axis really doesn't do anything more but to recognize the cause and effects of actions. Ti does nothing more but to categorize those perceived processes in a category based on similar traits. Your use of Ti is non existent. You don't give out categorizations. Only your feelings. You instead use Te to highlight the cause and effect of your illusionary framework of thought. You complain about others being about context and yet you always use context in your lectures. Especially the episode about the cognitive functions as frequencies when you made analogies between the functions and sperm... Guess what, Chase, you are indeed an ENTJ, but you are an underdeveloped one as you didn't develop your "parent" Ni which is about seeing different perspectives and seeing that those perspectives are legitimate aspects of reality and that those different aspects of reality or categories have similar aspects between them and that there is actually another category which is above them all. Which is the transcendent function or type which Jung talked about. Thus that's why you may seem that they overlap. Overlap?! You must be a Ti PoLR! No, Chase again, they overlap because they are part of another category above them that's how you form a category. You form it based on shared similarities, and then you combine them into one. In socionics the demonstrative is called to be the showy function. You are only bluffing about your knowledge but you don't seem to understand anything from that knowledge just like my ENTj father... (or maybe it's your Te showy demonstrative as you didn't develop your "parent" Ti as an ENTp) Yet you fool everyone in believing you... Ti demonstrative is also showy which is what I do now... Ni being about willpower? That's incorrect! "A function cannot work by itself. It needs to be a pair in order to work. A codec and a lens function are required in order for the functioning of an individual"-CPT Ni is willpower as much as it is assigned to an Fi codec. What you do do then when it is assigned to a Ti codec? You mistype people!!! Ni as a lens and Ti as a codec means that Ni gathers data from the current Se realm since its on an axis, and then it tracks that progression in time. That's why it's called intuition of time. With Ti it means that the individual applies categorizations based on the data available. An INTJ will use Ni and Ti, because he's an introvert, and thus he will stay locked in its orientation exactly like Jung said. Because that's what type is. A limitation. In this state, he will observe the different processes in the world with the Te codec and Se lens in the unconscious, while with his Ni and Ti he will see different similarities between the causes and effects of those processes and he will form broad categorizations, universal even as Ni sees everything from all perspectives and doesn't say anything untill it makes it's mind and then lashes out... It's Ni who's the most open. Not Ne. Ne judges new information based on the stored data Si. That's why you will see INTP criticizing only on the semantic level without taking into account the context and meaning of things. While Ni its on an axis with Se and it locks unto that specific data and from there it shifts its own perspective in order to fit the new data, thus an Ni dom is endlessly looking for new impressions in order to get to the root of things in the case of an Ti demonstrative. Also Chase being an Ni dom means that you also have strong Ne. As your preference is intuition plus thinking. However, the other orientation of intuition will remain in the unconscious. On the other hand, Ni in the conscious means that the individual will be as creative and novel as an Ne Dom like the "Ti PoLR" ENFp. Actually, because it is an introverted function he will be even more novel and *paradoxical* as his Ni will look at the fields and the different relationship between them. While the Ne dom will have a strict starting point which is Si and from there he will see different potential of an object. However, he will start from something that's real and has intrinsic worth. While an Ni dom will be your default mistyped ENFp or INFp. Asigning this kinda of novelty as being Ne when in fact it is because of the introverted Ni who starts from a specific time in the whole spectrum of time itself and from there it locks upon that data and it tracks the progression where it leads such a data. Why does this happen? Because Chase doesn't know the difference between static and dynamic. He doesn't understand that the ENFp or ENTp Ne and Ti or Fi are assigned to the grounded concrete Si. While the intuitive introverts have Se which makes them dynamic looking at the current state of things, and not static like Ne doms are with their Si rigid and static Ti or Fi framework. BTW you do realize Chase how you unjustly typed INFJ as being INFP and you made them have existential crisis as you forced your opinion on their Te PoLR?! While at the same time typing INTJs as Ne doms because of their use of Ni Ti contextuality, making them have an existential crisis as well since their Fi wasn't developed enough. Thank you Chase for all the misinformation that you are spreading and the wrong stereotypes and mistypes that you propagate. At least now recognize your weaknesses! Recognize that you can't see the full picture like an Ni dom INTJ can who can also verbalize it unlike the INFJ who can't and just takes the hits since they trusted you as their authority... Learn from my ENTj father whom he understood the validity of Ni and now we get better as he sees that Te doesn't have supremacy over the other aspects of reality... I hope that this proves me that I'm not a Ti PoLR, and for you I think that it proves that I'm not an ENTj... Just a Ti demonstrative user, maybe?! Ni vs Ne: www.the16types.info/vbulletin/showthread.php/47742-Ne-vs-Ni-base

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

Hah, I read the first paragraph thinking this was directed at me! This is pretty intense. I would agree with the Te-Fi axis here, but I am leaning more towards ESTJ or ENFP in this case :) Oh you're definitely using Ti, no doubt, but there's a lot of Fi acting upon your logic here, with a certain T-dominant 'force' behind your case. That obviously isn't a conclusive statement but was interesting to observe. Still entertaining ENTJ ;)

[@novaimperialis]

@@CognitivePersonalityTheory Glad that you read my ramblings... Still ENTj?! Maybe my depression has something to do with it as I'm more nihilistic than usual. Still, even in my depression I'm willing to listen to the perspective of the other, while my ENTj father just wants to be obeyed when it cames to others. I'm more than willing to be soft and cudly if I feel that the other person is at least trying to understand or it's at least being respectful to me. If you would see me in real life you would see that I'm not as scary as I look online. Quite the contrary. I'm very passive and I'm deffinetly phlegmatic. Flexing one's intellect is not the same as being forceful necessarily. An Fe PoLR can do this online as he's not threatened from the outside. Usually I'm being like this only on the internet when I see that something is wrong and it needs to corrected, or in real life with friends and family when they deviate and don't listen to logic. On the other hand, when it is a stranger I'm usually very PC. I even met people from other countries and I actually tried to integrate their belief in the detriment of my own Fi. I'm really easy to change if you have a better belief that have integrity. Also, sorry to say it but you are also making broad categorization Ti on stereotypes as that ENTjs are the ones who are mean. I usually compensate for my bad words and hurts with really humiliating apologies when it cames to my friends. While my ILE friend can just insult anybody and he will always gets away with it. He even makes others fear him lol. I can't even hurt a fly if I were to take my words as actions. I think it's only because of my ENTp unconscious which likes a bit to be a devil's advocate sometimes and not take things to seriously. BTW At which you are directing that ESTj or ENFp label? For Chase?! Also, I couldn't hurt an INFJ unprovoked.

[@jaredvaughan1665]

@@novaimperialis Hint: Nobody reads past the first couple of lines in a comment. Anything you put after that is a waste of your time. I won't say a waste of other people's time because no one else is going to read it in the first place. You need to learn to condense and prioritize what you are saying. These comments are not meant to be articles or books....

[@novaimperialis]

@@jaredvaughan1665 I know. My comments are not meant for inductive reasoning users. My comments are meant for deductive reasoning users who want to test the validity of a conclusion. I'm letting the person to choose what thinks that's of value between all of the premises that I present. It's better than forcing them to a single conclusion. I want people to think for themselves and even criticize me when I'm wrong in my reasoning. I prefer a democratic approach when finding the truth where everyone participates. With this method, I'm able to see whose really interested in the process and the truth, and who just wants to give his opinion just to contradict without having the data to support it. In this way, I'm separating unjustified criticism from constructive criticism.

[@brooklinnratto8315]

Also your eyes look very swollen 😟 You ok?

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

Got laser eye surgery in December but pretty much recovered now!

[@brooklinnratto8315]

@@CognitivePersonalityTheory well am glad to see ya doing better man :D

[@jackshit1723]

Don't you think it is a bit superficial to never mention anything negative? I guess personalities are never angry, have no irrational fears and worries. I just recently watched an ISTJ being afraid of the door bell, creeping to the door and looking through the peephole to discover the postman for no other reason than Ne 4th. I guess all that doesn't exist in your utopian world of personalities. People of your approach are responsible for major parts of population to believe Jungian psychology is nothing else than reading horoscopes. Because that is actually what you do: Draw a utopian picture of personalities that leaves out anything critical there is. But reality is stronger than you. What you miss out still exists, no matter if you mention it or not. What type are you yourself?

[@CognitivePersonalityTheory]

I appreciate the feedback! CPT has nothing to do with strengths and weaknesses; I am considering introducing potential tripping points of a type (which perhaps I did not emphasise enough for some learning styles in this video, seeing as my point regarding an ENFJ's predisposition to ignore internal detail has flown under the radar), but the overwhelming emphasis is upon growth: a type has preferences, and these preferences present pathways of access.

[@jackshit1723]

​@@CognitivePersonalityTheory Oh no, it is all fine. I enjoy the perspective and content you provide. It is about both the type of the listener and the teller how things settle down I guess. Tipping points are not only to be seen in potential growth aspects but as well in negative aspects or traits of types. As a diplomat/idealist yourself, at least I was told in comments you are INFJ, you probably like to focus on exactly these things, be diplomatic and idealistic. For the sole purpose of distinguishing the two from each other I as an INTP don't see value in saving out the negative aspects. And for the purpose of a potential growth video I don't see the value in comparing both at the same time. Hence probably a little misunderstanding. I didn't see it as a growth video but as a distinguishing one and for that purpose I would not only focus on growth aspects. Actually this feedback was not referring to that specific video but more a general thing after seeing like 3 videos of you.

[@jackshit1723]

Also I want to mention you are talking really fast. I was a fast talker myself for the most time of my life, not for benefit. It would help if you left longer gaps between sentences(!) and segments of your videos, so the viewer can have a little breathing room to think about what you've said for a fraction of a second longer than it is right now. For example (3:13): "Boat within this age we live in it is often times .." all said in 2 seconds. As I do not understand the first word of the sentence, I have to think about it and lose the content of the sentence altogether. So you say "which perhaps I did not emphasize enough for some learning styles in this video". I don't think it is about that. There is a certain language barrier. I have studied abroad, am considered by most a near native level speaker of the english language. Still I have problems understanding you in every 3rd sentence in a lingual way. So I am more busy figuring what you actually said and rewinding, listening to that part 3-5 times instead of focusing on the actual content that you provide. You put up a very high level of language. That is good and it allows me to improve and learn, for example the word holistic. But seriously either speak slower or if you keep speaking fast, what I like too, then put gap before the start of the next sentence. This way my small INTP brain might be able to put sentences together where I miss like 2 words by itself without losing the next sentence already. For example (9:20): "And while such extremes" everything fine here "of internal vision forming" getting fast, then it comes "an odd going to apply on all ENFJs". No way, I hear odd here, but it must be noun, so can't be odd, so what did you actually say there? (9:58): "Verymarks"? No way, I can't figure out what you said there. (10:51): "And I have to say within all the 16 types there is often times the ESFJ who excels the most within feels (maybe fails?) of acquire/inquire(?) exact attention to ..." got lost, no way for me to understand that sentence.