'Cold and brutal': Author Walter Isaacson on what surprised him about Elon Musk

[@shortmeister4321]

Why are we justifying erratic, dangerous behavior? We CELEBRATE new ideas and forward- thinking, but regulations keep our society from going completely off the rails with irreversible consequences.

[@jrch5563]

Regulations are needed in this country where greed has gone totally out of its mind. When you hear a rich person talk against regulations it is because it keeps them from making more profit nothing else, loss of life, and loss of physical human needs like clean air, and clean water are just collateral damage. Possible non-violent psychopathy.

[@TheWorld_2099]

Well said… and definitely psychopathy… I have no idea what’s taking so long to straighten things out, but it doesn’t help that our government is so dysfunctional.

[@DavidEvenhouse-du5ez]

@@TheWorld_2099 l

[@TheWorld_2099]

@@2300enduserperson1 he’s way too careful and controlling for that. His style of torture is psychological. Remember his first wife who gave him his 5 sons? He about drove her crazy.

[@221b-Maker-Street]

People's memories are very short... 😐

[@barefootID]

"clean air" that's why we need electric cars, solar panels and batteries!

[@PhDTony_original]

It's somewhat distressing that Musk's biographer did not bother to consult with science-literate people when assessing Musk and his "accomplishments".

[@rjlchristie]

Yes. Musk is not an engineering genius. He hasn't had the training. He relies on others to do the hard engineering work and figure out the technical details and possibilities. Aside from being a raiser of venture capital and self-promoter par excellence he's a concept man, he asks and pushes the question of what is technically possible. He doesn't do the work to solve the technical problems and in all likelihood as many of his ideas prove infeasible as might prove successful. However, he is certainly capable of taking the credit for the ideas and innovations of others. And at walking away from and disowning his failures in the same manner as a cat from its vomit.

[@bipolarcollie]

He's not the first self promoter. Thomas Edison was the same. He didn't get as rich but he put his name on the work of others. He had big labs and hired engineers, scientists and researchers. They all signed employment contract that said anything they invented or created belonged to Edison.

[@ScorpioNick]

Indeed, Tony. Much of his 'success' is down to inheritance and stealing credit for things he did not think of himself. Add to that a list of over-exaggerated promises (self-driving release timeline immediately comes to mind, but also his claims that someone buying a self-driving car will turn it into effectively a money printer) and silly ideas (the Boring Company with its colourful tunnels). He's a mascot, a salesman, and for whatever reason he loves to stir up drama.

[@java4653]

He's a popular writer; not a responsible writer.

[@ScytheNoire]

Not to mention psychologists, as Musk is a sociopath.

[@oopopp]

FunFact: The inventor and owner of the imploded Titanic submarine also thinks there is too much regulation like elon.

[@TheWorld_2099]

The word ‘fun’ might be a little rich in this context, but the point of your sarcasm is well taken.

[@larslindgren3846]

He doesn't think at all anymore. 😢

[@sergeant_salty]

Fun fact: that man hadn't successfully ferried tons of cargo and multiple NASA astronauts to the ISS as well as launched countless internet satellites and classified USSF payloads....

[@wisemanofsorts6068]

Elon talks about the importance of regulation daily. He just asks for more efficient regulation. Basically, it shouldn't take 6 months to read over and approve a 20-page document.

[@Arulane]

They always want no regulations, until there is a tragedy, then they want to talk about regulations until people forget.

[@flashflame4952]

Never been a fan of Musk. In fact, I really do wish his Mother Ship would come back and get him to take him back and away from here. He's seriously a monster and an out of control super rich schmuck.

[@ajnz2420]

Typical pro- coal and pro- drilling comment.

[@flashflame4952]

@@ajnz2420 Nahhh you missed that by a freaking long shot LOL LOL

[@ajnz2420]

Evidence would be on my side. Here you are wanting the main leading the charge to renewable energy extinguished. That must grind your gears.@@flashflame4952

[@tigertiger1699]

Why are we suddenly supposed to be proud of/ worship.. narcissist.. narcissistic behaviour

[@TheWorld_2099]

Oh no, on the contrary, it felt like he was very diplomatically saying that we shouldn’t tolerate his behavior at all. We’ve allowed Elon musk to get too powerful, it’s going to be time to back off from him.

[@tigertiger1699]

@@TheWorld_2099 We… haven’t allowed the likes of musk to get wealthy.., there are laws.., but his likes just cheat…. Look at trump… he’s not a miracle… he’s a fraud

[@DrinkTheKoolAid62]

Because the narcissists have taken over

[@barcelonachair6487]

Suddenly? The American culture of, "we are the best" is the American Dream, anthem and culture. The rest of the world has been observant of this narcism since WWII where the US acted like they saved the world without any help or any tremendous lives lost from other allies. The knowledge of narcism has only been apparent to yourselves since the rise of social media. Political leaders are a sampling of any society in any given era, and it horrifying to think that some of the leaders you have are representative of your districts but they are. Trump and his ego has been wanted by over 40% of your country and they did not view him to be narcissistic. You have a good man like Biden but want to reject him because he is old, that is the definition of narcissistic and superficial. Soooo Suddenly?????

[@dangrass]

you're missing the point. While you may not like Musk's personality, his accomplishments are simply incredible.

[@DeAlpineBro]

Isaacson drank the kool aid. 4min in is enough.

[@TheWorld_2099]

I think Isaacson needs to be extra diplomatic, because his whole job is to gain the trust of powerful people, so he can interview them and get to know them. If you listen between the smiles, it truly sounds like he is warning us about Elon.

[@fredgarvinMP]

Needs only 2 minutes of hate.

[@ajnz2420]

IS this because he didn't tell you what you wanted to hear? You could be a Fox watcher with that attitude.

[@nacarreira777]

Elon's "carelessness and recklessness" are the reasons we need regulation.

[@dangrass]

nobody is suggesting that we don't need regulation...only that we need more risk taking

[@nacarreira777]

@@dangrass Elon has complained about regulations but look what happened when we deregulated Big Oil, Big Pharma, Big Ag. I'm all for innovation but not at the cost of the environment or humanity.

[@davidgilbert8614]

@@dangrass I would not disagree with you on the notion of risk taking. But I would preface that risk is only necessary when we are trying to resolve a crisis such as the pandemic. So sure sometimes risk and rushing is necessary as it is for the greater good. But rushing to Mars is not for the greater good, it is for bragging rights. Rushing to build electric cars that are faulty, is not for the greater good. Again it is for bragging rights, and to corner a market. Tesla Motors will likely make more money off of its charging stations than from the cars they make. The competition will be forced to standardize to a Tesla design or risk going under. So much for the free market. Musk bought Twitter so that he could stifle the voices he wanted silenced, with the ironic notion that he was protecting free speech. But not free speech for all, just for those who agree with and praise him. The way I see it, that is as anti-American as it gets.

[@DogHollow]

I'm just about finished with this book and I want out of it. Elon musk is a horrible human being. He may have been an innocent victim of his father, but his behavior far outweighs the behavior of his father. He is cruel and selfish, in spite of brief moments of humanity.

[@saylaveenadmearedead]

Looking forward to some of his victims having the balls to rat must out... he fired all the best people.

[@neosapienz7885]

People with that kind of power typically are psychopathic.

[@izmanq]

people who can't, call names to people who can :D

[@joecappello7742]

Let's be clear about one thing, Musk didn't invent anything by himself, the engineers who works at his company did

[@TheMagicJIZZ]

What about when he was 13 and sold a video game to Atari?

[@lillyho2635]

​@@TheMagicJIZZare you proud of the guy that put young generations into online games addiction to make money? Is this guy different from criminal drug traffickers? You believe the guy that has trouble writing a simple code could save the world? It must be very stupid to you believe Mussolini musk owns those businesses himself.

[@dangrass]

and let's be clear that all the engineers at NASA, Boeing, Lockheed-Martin, GM, Ford, Chrysler, BMW, Mercedes, Toyota, etc, etc weren't able to do what the engineers at Musk's companies did.

[@barcelonachair6487]

@@dangrass They have a board of directors and shareholders to be accountable to. It's one thing to be a fan boy but it's another thing not understand business.

[@susanb4816]

And he made most of his money because of subsidies not any brilliance

[@Sodonewithchaos]

When his own kids want NOTHING to do with him,..says it all!

[@TheMagicJIZZ]

One kid when most of his children are in their 20s?

[@izmanq]

yeah sure, you have the high moral ground to judge :D thank god you don't have power :D

[@Marfmellow88]

Only his brain washed trans kid wont talk to him…

[@3ld919]

Although Musk has contributed much to society materialistically, his existence is a net loss to society,

[@TreFree-n7o]

Maybe it's time to permanently get rid of him?

[@fredgarvinMP]

We learned about the censorship industrial complex because of Elon. That's a net gain.

[@ra5928]

​​@@fredgarvinMP- He told the Tesla plant workers they could stay home during the worst part of COVID. He then fired those who stayed home. Over 400 cases broke out in the plant. He hired a subcontractor that paid workers $5 an hour and swore he didn't know. Right! He tore up signed contracts for his Tesla roof and doubled the price. Irate customers had to sue the richest guy in the world for what were pennies to him. He refused to fix screens in his cars. Again he had to be sued. He moved to Texas because he does not want to pay taxes. We subsidize his butt heavily and he doesn't want to pay taxes. He's a jerk. We here in Silicon Valley knew that long before the rest of the world.

[@Zeropointill]

@@fredgarvinMP lol you think conspiracy theorists are just NOW saying the government/companies lie to you? Are you 12?

[@fredgarvinMP]

@@Zeropointill Censor, not lie. Huge difference.

[@paenchenlama]

Musk is like Trump: a narcissistic bully.

[@rursus8354]

Perhaps. But Musk is "secondarily narcissistic" due to asperger. Trump is a malicious narcissist, worthless in everything he does.

[@noel7777noel]

The "tough love" rewarding the investors is punishing the borrowers catch-22 logic people. The "tough love" people who think for-profits investors is a better banking system than not-for-profit banking. To get our businesses into dept with predatory lenders and compounding intrest rates is better than a not-for-profit third-party bank. That a third-party not-for-profit banking is not a friendly way. Not-for-profit is not friendly to the tough love catch-22 logic

[@dangrass]

not at all. Trump has no skills, while Musk is incredibly capable. Trump's interest is only himself, while Musk is trying to save the planet.

[@goodstufffromdavidpaul2246]

Unlike Trump...Musk is not a fraud. Asperger's is a gift to Musk's brain... and a curse to his relational skills.

[@peterpain6625]

@@goodstufffromdavidpaul2246 Nah. Elon is a fraud. Same as Donald. Elon has just the benefit of being a good snake-oil salesman. Donald just sharts out what stupid people think so they adore him for it...

[@fritzhaselnuss7852]

I am not surprised that Musk makes a lot of positive claims about himself and likes to present himself as a saver and inventor and beneficionary of humanity. What actually surprises me is that so many people believe him.....

[@lisaahmari7199]

The part of the population just a little too smart to fall for trump's grifts, but moronic enough to fall for Elon's instead.

[@ManicMindTrick]

He single-handedly kick started the electric car industry and the rocket industry. Would electric cars happen no matter what? Yeah it would, but he pushed it forward by a decade perhaps.

[@Cohen-]

Or people conflate him being proud of what he feels is his accomplishments to this neverending ego with nothing really to back this comparison that I'd argue has true value. I'd argue he's allowed to express himself how he does because he has been a key innovator in many fields as well as a leader when he was required to be one. His Tesla factories have created many jobs, innovation in solar and especially electric cars which only recently is taking off across the whole automotive industry, his SpaceX company has allowed satellite wifi to gain traction with Starlink. So besides naming a few things, of course the man toots his own horn, but when he does why do so many equate his overconfidence to other things when it's obvious due to his character? I feel many descriptions of Elon are disengenous as so many times but pieces are released to villify him. I argue that it's because they feel bitter of his image regarding his outward political views, and also because he is a billionaire. Again, Elon has done things wrong, but some things that people try to hold against him I personally see as completely unfair.

[@Serai3]

It SURPRISED him that Lizardface is a monster? Has he not been paying attention??

[@jsvalina3503]

Musk is one of the he best minds of our era. Look how people treated the great minds of history.

[@josefmanga]

Walter Isaacson sounds like an apologist for Musk. Innovation is fine, but not at the expense of humanity. I never really understood making heroes out of deeply-flawed people.

[@ajnz2420]

What does that even mean, what humanity has Musk put at risk? Leading the change to renewable energy?

[@jessd4048]

Isaacson is entirely too credulous when it comes to figures like Musk. It’s the reason he gets access to the powerful but it severely undermines the contributions Isaacson makes to the public understanding of the powerful.

[@hopeemch8511]

There are articles about Musk online that are much more impartial and informative. The Atlantic and the The New Yorker for two. The man is on the spectrum where someone can be super intelligent and effective in many areas but not able to care about people or sustain relationships.

[@tomross4599]

Agreed. Musk is a narcissist who was able to put on a “genius” show for Isaacson. The funny thing is: When Isaacson published the Steve Jobs book a decade ago, many of Steve’s close friends and colleagues were shocked by how critical and condescending Isaacson was of Steve.

[@saskiamesternuhh]

@@hopeemch8511 You're right and thanks for referencing the articles. I will check them out. But I need to add something for what you write about people on the spectrum. It is a common (and scientifically overcome) notion, that people on the spectrum don't care about people or cannot sustain relationships. Musk had to do work on his own to become such a despicable person.

[@Arulane]

Yes, it feels like he buys into the persons assessment of themselves, rather than having an unbiased analysis.

[@jessd4048]

@@Arulane rather than having a *critical analysis* which is what Isaacson should have as a biographer…

[@sread833]

Aspergers aside, petty bully is a good description of Musk.

[@fredgarvinMP]

Who did he bully?

[@MrJBA79]

Thankfully, Musk is aging like a saucer of milk in the Midday sun.

[@ManicMindTrick]

@@fredgarvinMP He bullies the far left by promoting freer speech on Twitter.

[@Michael-Nic]

What has Elon Musk said about China? During his May visit, Musk said he was opposed to the idea of a US-China decoupling amid geopolitical fissures, calling the interests of both countries “intertwined like conjoined twins.” Tesla is deeply reliant on China, with deliveries from the Shanghai facility accounting for more than half of its global sales. How is this good for Americans?

[@ajnz2420]

Maybe, like the rest of the world he sees China as just another US political football started of by Trump and continued and ramped up under Biden. The US and the US alone are responsible for the massive build up of China's military might.

[@Cohen-]

Well to be honest the wide majority of economic success in the US is due part to the multipolarity between China & the United States. It's a relationship that's very codependent & strenuous. However Elon's investments with foreign work in China isn't exclusive to him in any way.

[@brettfine3444]

Surprised? Day by day space karen reveals his true self for the whole world to see. So, it's not surprising if you have been paying attention.

[@Lord-Kanzler]

lol space karen. I just go by dr. evil

[@2dronetek2]

Exactly

[@josephsonora3787]

Thank you sooo much for bringing Freedom of Speech back Elon Musk! 🙏

[@sonjagay4151]

😂🤣 😂🤣 😂🤣 😂🤣

[@spud2go]

That kind of wealth is aberrant beyond measure - no one should be admired for being so uncontrollably & egotistically greedy.

[@nadiasilvershine4630]

I began to dislike Elon Musk when he fired the janitors at Twitter -- people who have families to support -- with zero notice.

[@VickieThompson-xi2jn]

So true

[@petereilly6325]

Excellent book. Marvelous man.

[@MiltonJonEspinosa-gw2jx]

Money does not equal smart, or stable.

[@joyrobin947]

In the long run, we'll find Musk is more trouble than he is worth.

[@arellatikvah]

​​@tileuxI was about to write the same thing.

[@rjlchristie]

Groan, the myth never stops. Musk is not an engineering genius. He hasn't had the training. He relies on others to do the hard engineering work and figure out the technical details and possibilities. Aside from being a raiser of venture capital and self-promoter par excellence he's a concept man, he asks and pushes the question of what is technically possible. He doesn't do the work to solve the technical problems and in all likelihood as many of his ideas prove infeasible as might prove successful. However, he is certainly capable of taking the credit for the ideas and innovations of others. And at walking away from and disowning his failures in the same manner as a cat from its vomit.

[@four4eyes]

The 21st century version of Edison .

[@dangrass]

the results speak for themselves

[@russell2449]

WRONG!!!!! Elon designed SpaceX's first rocket engine from scratch by EDUCATING HIMSELF, iow reading everything on the subject and then went ahead and designed it HIMSELF!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Meanwhile behemoths like ULA STILL CAN'T BUILD THEIR OWN ENGINES!!!!!!

[@peterpain6625]

@@dangrass His companies work despite him. Not because of him. I know you little cultist will never get that into your warped brains but heyho... maybe one day

[@rjlchristie]

@@dangrass "the results speak for themselves" Indeed, the results may, but they don't attest to any engineering or technical genius on Musk's part, only to the engineering teams and scientists that contributed to them.

[@orionoregon974]

He'll end up like Howard Hughs

[@russell2449]

BWAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA!!!!!!

[@arellatikvah]

I hope so!

[@davidclifford5393]

This was more of a debate between Isaacson and Ruhle. Do we need more innovation or do we need more regulation. I don't think we need people with 750 billion dollars. Power corrupts.

[@ajnz2420]

He doesn't have that much wealth.

[@davidclifford5393]

@@ajnz2420 In the video, Ruhle said he was worth 3 quarters of a trillion dollars.

[@ajnz2420]

Do your own research 250 Billion.@@davidclifford5393

[@paromita_ghosh]

​​@@davidclifford5393quarter of a '"Tr"illion or 1T

[@paromita_ghosh]

​@@davidclifford5393md btw where are you living? Lol

[@joelyazell7380]

The rich see life and lives for what they can mine from it,and greed feeds on the weaknesses of the less greedy. Straight to the top for those that care less about anything else.

[@CKDStrider]

Innovation, my a--. It is and was a matter of Congressional funding for NASA and its missions. Not buying your book, sir.

[@Stinsvarning]

Looks like I found the outliers comment section. So much blind uninformed hate must take it's toll. You people are fascinating. Btw, I recommend reading the book. It's quite good. Will pop many bubbles, but Isacsson describes a number of less pleasant Elon encounters you'll love.

[@maximilianemusterfrau1265]

Why do we need space travel and spend our money on this while we are unable to solve our huge problems on earth. Spend this money to solve earth's problems!

[@TheMagicJIZZ]

It's not your money it's his and venture capital It's private

[@maximilianemusterfrau1265]

@@TheMagicJIZZ One reason he owns this in incredible amount of money is because he never had to pay his fair share in taxes.

[@starsaligninthesky]

His description of musk is that of a schizophrenic

[@street_cheeks]

and still accurate.

[@BarryPiper]

I don't have any professional training in emotional disorders but there is clearly something wrong with Musk.

[@davidcohen7106]

And as far as what the actual citizen's of this country want or need the regime couldn't care less. Once they neutralized our vote they don't even have to pretend to give a uck.They have a hundred million mail-in ballots. That is all they need.

[@AstroGnosis1]

Musk is bipolar1 please try not to Diagnose anyone. Bipolar1 can trigger psychosis. If your wondering where I get bipolar from its directly from his Twitter as he talks openly about it.

[@tomross4599]

Nope, that’s exactly how a narcissist breaks your mind and bends you to his will.

[@catwilliamson3887]

I saw interviews of Musk's mother, father and himself when he was married with young children. I could see that there are some wounds from his past, some pretty severe that make up part of who he is. Aspergers provides another window of his make up. In some ways, he may never learn lessons that will make him humble due to his wealth and fame. I believe he is genius. But he is not someone whom anyone should aspire to become. People can be successful, smart and be good people who believe in not doing harm. Musk doesn't seem to think he should be bothered with doing no harm.

[@tomross4599]

Just because he doesn’t mind destroying people doesn’t mean he has Asperger’s. He’s a narcissist.

[@fredgarvinMP]

What harm has he done?

[@joyrobin947]

​@@fredgarvinMPlol ask the people of Austin where spacex is.

[@wisemanofsorts6068]

To be fair, Elon literally says that people should not want to become him either...

[@jillionairess]

Ask East Palestine about lifting regulations.

[@elaineisabelle427]

I would never trust a self driving car.

[@theresebortzfield188]

End Billionaire class

[@MikkelBondeStouby]

It's complicated...not.

[@torosdepamplona]

He’s borderline (if not all in) psychopathic. What else would we expect? Terrible job, Walter.

[@ManicMindTrick]

On what do you base that on? You just grabbed two diagnoses out of your rear end.

[@tomross4599]

5:55 Tesla didn’t usher in the age of electric cars, this is so morose. They made electric cars shiny and desirable. But governments around the world had made strong binding mandates towards electric cars around 2010. The EU, for example, put into law at that time: By 2020, all new cars sold must reduce CO2 emissions by 20 % (on average). That’s why every single car maker had their electric cars planned and ready for that year, so they wouldn’t have to pay billions in fines. Same thing in China. Not to mention Norway. If not for Musk, we would have millions of boring electric cars on our roads today.

[@wisemanofsorts6068]

Tesla proved that EV's could be profitable. No other company other than BYD has ever made a profit off an EV, even to this day.

[@kalinda619]

Really? So what about the GM EV1?

[@carlyar5281]

All this talk about being more reckless and taking risks, and then mentioning NASA in the shuttle… have we already forgotten the Challenger?

[@wisemanofsorts6068]

There is a very big difference from SpaceX and Shuttle. SpaceX can take risks early on in a program with no people or cargo on board. NASA never did that with Shuttle as every launch had people on board. The SpaceX Falcon 9 is the safest rocket ever built by its success rate. It has landed more times consecutively than any other rocket has ever launched successfully consecutively.

[@orionoregon974]

He doesn't require quadruple redundancy in ship systems, that is why NASA designs cost more

[@peterpain6625]

Because anybody except himself is expendable. Says a lot about the person really.

[@PedroTRamos1]

I´m sorry, how many people died on board the shuttle? And how many were killed in a SpaceX F9 vehicle? Yeah. Quadruple your toilette paper with your bs.

[@stene123]

Host clearly has not read the book

[@SolarizeYourLife]

Elon never got one cent from me...

[@tomross4599]

I’m afraid he did get your tax cents and dollars. His companies are full of government money.

[@MrJBA79]

Same, and he never will.

[@wisemanofsorts6068]

​@tomross4599 Literally every space company gets government money, thats how the industry works. In terms of Tesla, the big 3 of Ford, GM, and Stellantis have received much more money from the government than Tesla has. I am not saying it is right or wrong, but I don't think people realize how many things the US government funds. Most big companies get money from the government.

[@gasovensforqcult]

Anybody dislike Musk as much as me?

[@deanfiora4227]

I could do quite well without ever again hearing his name.

[@fredgarvinMP]

He's a God among men.

[@zeldasmith6154]

Why is going to the moon, innovative? Where's the innovation in cancer research? Where's the innovation in making products that are safe? Where's the innovation in creating containers that don't pollute the water and air? Where's the innovation in health care?

[@claudettefolsom1509]

A lot of government tax breaks got this nut money 🎉

[@christopherjavens3438]

Actually he paid more taxes than required by law, educate yourself

[@blhtml]

It's called socialism for corporations!

[@tomross4599]

@@christopherjavens3438 You have to include the massive tax breaks that Tesla buyers get. That was worth at least $10 billion worldwide. Teslas (like all electric cars) only sell with government support. Whenever a country stopped EV tax breaks/subsidies, Tesla’s sales crashed in that country. This is a fact, not up for debate.

[@charlottetracy3970]

I don't care anything about Musk. I think he's bad for America. I'm really disappointed in Walter Isa acson for choosing to write about him. I've bought and read all of his books, but not this one!

[@fredgarvinMP]

Why do you think Musk is bad for America?

[@thewkovacs316]

what surprises me was how he was able to con people for so long that he was an altruist and a genius he is neither

[@northox]

Very similar to Steve Job before being kicked out, similar to Henry Ford’s crazyness (the town and all).

[@peterpain6625]

Nah. Steve Jobs was a driven genius and an complete a$$hole. Elon is just a very good snake-oil salesman.

[@michellekennedy6091]

Would rather people be more inovative about this world and proactive about solving this worlds challenges

[@garyperkovac1002]

Musk unrestrained.., without rails... is one disaster waiting to happen. Smarter than Trump, but no wiser. He's lost my vote of confidence.

[@Life-Dreaming]

Please don't give BULLIES license to continue bullying. Elon Musk needs someone who will tell him the truth. This was Trump's problem also. And, these individuals (with money & power) probably need reparenting (counseling), but they would only receive benefit from that if they were willing to be open/vulnerable. Those with the most can NOT be drunk on their own power, but must govern judiciously with regard to self and others. VOTE FOR DEMOCRACY AND FREEDOM. VOTE BLUE. 💙🇺🇸💙👍😇

[@Jackthestripper]

We actually currently have the lowest regulations since before the Great Depression. I agree that risk taking is good, which is why we need to strengthen the middle class so that they can take risks- something that Elon is opposed to.

[@Jackthestripper]

@ballbustinbandit3558 Most of the bad regulations are in favor of people like Elon. People like him have literally rigged the deck in their favor and its lead to societal decay. The world has only gotten worse the more power Elon has gotten.

[@JKJustSaying]

His "engineer mode" that leads to build a truck out of stainless steel ASK ANY engineer why that is bad

[@MrJBA79]

Musk isn't an engineer's but-hole.

[@ManicMindTrick]

I don't have any car engineer to ask that question on stand by so maybe you could answer it being an engineer?

[@MrJBA79]

Galvanic corrosion is by far the biggest drawback. It is also brittle and doesn't crumple easily.. so in an accident, the occupants of the car become the crumple-zone through the process of elimination. It's also heavy, so more energy required to move it.. which is stupid if your vehicle is electric. But all of those issues seem trivial compared to the cost. Might as well make it out of diamonds. Oh and you can't easily weld stainless-steel. I used to know one person who can weld stainless-steel but he died 7 years ago. @@ManicMindTrick

[@MrJBA79]

Like, you can drop an egg on the floor and the yolk will be whole. But if sprayed the egg with copper paint and then electroplated it to make it solid and then dropped it... that yolk would be completely scrambled by the impact and that's just physics. We're not even talking about complex ideas, these are the basics. Musk lacks even the most basic common sense and people around him are too scared to lose their jobs to correct him. Apparently if you correct him you might as well put your stuff in a box and leave, same difference.

[@ManicMindTrick]

@@MrJBA79 If you drop an egg on the floor the egg yolk will be all over the floor and not intact. Haven't you dropped an egg on the floor? And you talk about common sense and physics?

[@eagleowl3664]

Elon thinks about a century into the future, where most people think about months and years. No wonder people think, he's crazy or erratic.

[@raymondvaldez8296]

Elon seems like a cool guy to me.

[@izmanq]

he is, it's just world is full with toxic people 😀

[@loregeorge]

I love Elon

[@bog6106]

I love Elon Musk. I hope he is doing good

[@bog6106]

I live in Massachusetts@ElonMusk5238

[@bonnierobinson8684]

Great interview!

[@izmanq]

nah, she's so toxic, this kind of person hinder progress

[@KenS1267]

Musk is not an engineer. He has no education as an engineer. Aerospace engineering is not something you just "pick up." Musk has always just been a guy with money that bought his way into businesses or founded them. He always has to bring in actual engineers to do the engineering. when he tries to tell them how to do their jobs, like with the Tesla self driving, that's when things go badly wrong.

[@peterpain6625]

He's very good at faking and selling it though. At a genius level. Inventing is not his forte though...

[@WKDMOUSE67]

He has demons they are telling you. Heavenly Father remove the scale’s of your children if it is your will hallelujah amen

[@dredgerivers7730]

When I was younger, not only did people go to space every couple months, they complained that their vehicle's technology was twenty years out of date.

[@annettes7460]

That is one bizarre outfit being worn by the interviewer.

[@toddboothbee1361]

Some of my people came over on the Mayflower. But what about those who came over on the Bering Strait?

[@Phi1618033]

In only a matter of years, Elon Musk went from Tony Stark to Lex Luthor.

[@peterpain6625]

More like Joker from the very old comics after a double power-drill lobotomy performed by someone with late stage parkinsons on coke and shrooms ;)

[@ManicMindTrick]

That's because of the tribal nature of today's politics. As soon as he strayed away from mainstream democratic talking points he became the enemy, especially in a very progressive Silicon Valley where conformity is massive.

[@peterpain6625]

@@ManicMindTrick Nah. He was a xenophobic c*nt from the start. But he's also very good into snake-oil sales so he made the people think he wasn't to enlarge his cult.

[@kinlika]

Musk is a 50something 6th grader.

[@laladidas]

Look at her attacking Elon lol msnbc 😭😂

[@TTTzzzz]

Why do salespeople get all the credit?

[@aerojet393]

Interesting,you seemed to be impressed by Elons knowledge of inconel . It’s been around for 50 years

[@jamesdeibler5657]

Fun fact: we should send him to mars on a nasa space craft so he does not wind up dead and let him drive a Tesla around and be the guy from the martian then make it reality tv show lol

[@peterpain6625]

I wonder if his little cultist sheeple wake up when one of his mars rockets hills people by the hundreds... Probably not.

[@arellatikvah]

How is that a fact? Maybe it's a good idea but it's not a fact.

[@JB-uv4hm]

I didn’t need this bio to know Musk is Dr Evil.

[@Sabrina-LosAngeles]

Freedom to innovate within boundaries - and each group will never agree on where the lines should be drawn but you need both.

[@stevenhenry5267]

We aren't innovative because of corporate consolidation and direct interference in government.

[@romaray]

Good to know !! 🌹

[@tomross4599]

4:19 That awkward chuckle when Isaacson says to himself “old men like me as well”.

[@tigertiger1699]

The guy is a child…

[@fredgarvinMP]

Trapped in Tony Stark's body.

[@carolwillmont7424]

Can Stephanie ever stop talking and interrupting?

[@jagsair]

We need a Sundae Conversation with Caleb Pressly and Elon Musk.

[@tonyggir]

Musk is the greatest engineer in our lifetime by far. Also the best businessman. He is solely responsible for the success of the electric car and rocket ships that can land. . No one else did this.

[@truthandjustice6838]

No reference to "cold and brutal". MSNBC trying their utmost again...How does he behave badly? I still don't know. He acts like champion should.

[@lamontcranston3177]

This is not news. This is advertising.

[@elainezaks420]

Mood disorderdom has overtaken our politics & national discourse. 'X" marks this spot.

[@northernhills863]

NASA is perfectly capable of creating a launch-land/dock/return/land vehicle, as the shuttles illustrate. It's more a matter of budgeting and funding WILLpower... easier to stand aside and let an eager commercial privatized company step into that zone.

[@dangrass]

the shuttle was an amazing thing, but was not economically viable. Ever since the retirement of the shuttle, the US was reliant on Russian rockets. Thank God that Musk came along and solved that problem.

[@davidgilbert8614]

NASA was also always populated by cautious and conscientious scientists and engineers. They understood the need to win the space race, yet they did not just throw caution to the wind. They recruited those who understood the risks, yet they still wanted those risks to be mitigated as much as they could be. However, the space race is no longer driven by a political agenda; it is now driven by a "one-up-manship" mentality of crass billionaires intent on being the first. It is now about greed, and a willingness to take risks no matter how great, and no matter how dire the final consequences may prove to be. Science, much like politics, is a slow moving animal. And it needs to be, we have already opened too many of Pandora's boxes as it is.

[@ManicMindTrick]

NASA is a stale organization without aim and drive. The whole space thing was just a one-up manship to nail the Soviets during the cold war after they were the first to take a man to space. They need a serious shake-up. This whole civilization needs a shake-up. It's slipping into dystopia and social media is making it happen quicker.

[@OG_McLovin]

Yeah, people think that Musk is just carefree with all that money but there is a profound cost one pays, personally, professionally, mentally, and emotionally to achieve that level of success. I couldn't do it.

[@totalfreedom45]

_In the end, only three things matter: how much you loved, how gently you lived, and how gracefully you let go of things not meant for you._ ―Attributed to Siddhartha Gautama (the Buddha) *_Without love and sense of humor there is unhappiness and life is meaningless._* 💕☮🌎🌌

[@mn-ru4li]

This news story made me understand that Elon Musk has been the real victim all along

[@joyrobin947]

I don't see that.

[@garymcdermott772]

@@joyrobin947you never were taught sarcasm were you!

[@marvinsmith2116]

I’m raised same as anyone with the idea of heroes. Figured out at a young age… my mom is a hero. Other common people show something worth following. Don’t know these other ‘heroes’., but they all have clay feet. Never had a ‘babe Ruth’ hero in my thinking. Why would I need one?

[@Smiley-fv8zi]

Musk sounds bi-polar.

[@Vykhrist]

Don't think anyone was surprised about this revelation, is he a possible schizophrenic or multi personality. Who thinks he's a hero?

[@studiokazuyo]

Yes. Elon is cold and brutal. And not smart. So we need to get rid of him. X for twitter shows he is brutal.

[@jayflaherty6622]

Cold and bruta,l like all dictators. This man is becoming a fascist before our very eyes. This guy has not had a single idea on his own. Everything he has done came from someone else's ideas. It's guys like this whose kids grow up wanting nothing to do with them.

[@AntsDrone]

Steve Jobs was notoriously known to be mean and demanding of people. People who are of the level of Musk and Jobs have specific traits that make them so successful and great leaders. Nobody is perfect and without the ruthless drive of both of these men we wouldn’t have advanced the way we have.

[@jessd4048]

It’s called sociopathy. In a right-thinking society such traits would be seen as the threat they are instead of being lionized as ‘bold eccentricities of the gifted.’ These figures are not gifted nor godlike they are garden variety misanthropes and should be given no special license.

[@deanfiora4227]

The rich and powerful will always have useful idiots who make excuses for their horrid behavior.

[@fredgarvinMP]

And we wouldn't have The Twitter Files!

[@ManicMindTrick]

They have different personalities and ended up being successful through different means albeit a form of convergent evolution took place.

[@AntsDrone]

@@deanfiora4227 The lazy and uneducated will always cry and complain when the world doesn't fold to their communist view point.

[@TheAmazingBladezo]

Nikola Tesla was probably the smartest person ever. Conversely, a Musk is a kind of a rat.

[@jokeradviser5843]

He did all those "innovations" with PUBLIC MONEY!

[@jasenbourne1]

Yes. Musk is not an engineering genius. He hasn't had the training. He relies on others to do the hard engineering work and figure out the technical details and possibilities. Aside from being a raiser of venture capital and self-promoter par excellence he's a concept man, he asks and pushes the question of what is technically possible. He doesn't do the work to solve the technical problems and in all likelihood as many of his ideas prove infeasible as might prove successful. However, he is certainly capable of taking the credit for the ideas and innovations of others. And at walking away from and disowning his failures in the same manner as a cat from its vomit. He's not the first self promoter. Thomas Edison was the same. He didn't get as rich but he put his name on the work of others. He had big labs and hired engineers, scientists and researchers. They all signed employment contract that said anything they invented or created belonged to Edison. Much of his 'success' is down to inheritance and stealing credit for things he did not think of himself. Add to that a list of over-exaggerated promises (self-driving release timeline immediately comes to mind, but also his claims that someone buying a self-driving car will turn it into effectively a money printer) and silly ideas (the Boring Company with its colourful tunnels). He's a mascot, a salesman, and for whatever reason he loves to stir up drama.

[@sonicgamer3839]

🤦

[@four4eyes]

Whatever happened with his magnetic tube traveling ?

[@CetinAmsterdam]

Nobody sees him as hero Twitter's disaster is example of his suc6

[@fredgarvinMP]

He saved Twitter.

[@CetinAmsterdam]

@@fredgarvinMP Twitter is dead 💀 and his dream all in one app never going to happen

[@GeorgeGraham-vw2jp]

Did the tens of millions of slaves take a risk?