COLD weather camping... Enjoyable or Miserable? [S5E2] Lifestyle Overland

[@LifestyleOverland]

9 Extra minutes of our family antics at lso.link/patreon-s5e2 for our supporters!

[@bcoffroadadventures]

The dielse heater exhaust ur using it with exaugsht in storage position (vertical) wen running needs to be horizontal to avoid diesle build up in exausght pipe and flare up causing rich code... and shut down.... rotate pipe will run all night

[@rtwatson78]

Did a trip recently near the Grand Canyon and temps got down to around 20°. We have the same exact unit and in the (very poorly written) instructions it shows the correct angle for the exhaust being at or below level. For this reason I added 2in feet on either side of the frame to raise it up off the ground. Keep in mind these units were originally designed to be in vehicles with the exhaust exiting down and out. I will also be adding a metal plate in between the feet to protect the ground from the hot exhaust as well. I ran it at the lowest setting and because we were at 7000ft it used 2x as much fuel than at sea level (I was happy it was even able to run at all). So far no complaints and kept our sleeping area (modified Tacoma 6ft bed, cap with Nomad Camper) at 74° all night. To my knowledge there in no thermostat just adjustable fuel rate and fan speeds "control" the temperature. Getting ready to build an adventure trailer which I plan on installing the heater in. A few other changes I made to my unit were 8awg power supply wires, and expandable, flexible 3in ridged dryer vent instead of the soft sided type you used. I'm ramble writing now but planning a trip out westish in mid April for 2weeks from Michigan and was looking for suggestions?

[@leightonoc]

Couldn’t agree more about your comments about tires! So true!

[@OutandBackOregon]

I really like the way you tell the story of your adventures. Well put together, great footage, good times. Thanks so much!

[@cjarloz]

We have falken wild peak AT’s on our forester and love em. Different tire and pattern but seem like well made tires so far.

[@briangudger3466]

Hey Kevin - it would be super helpful if you shared some of the great tips people sent in in case others are coming up against heater issues too. Glad you got yours fixed!

[@scsawman]

I just got rid of some KM3's, out of all the tires I have ran they are by far the quickest to wear out. I have just installed another set of Wildpeak AT3w's my all time favorite tires, I have ran the following on my 6,500lb Nissan Frontier: KO2's, Wildpeak AT3W, S/T Maxx and lastly the KM3's. Goodluck with the Wildpeak M/T's, hopefully they give you good service.

[@cole33333333]

When I was working at a ski resort we used a lot of Diesel heaters. Any time it got down to -5 to -10 we had to find a way to thin the diesel fuel out or we had carbon problems.

[@northernmichiganoverland]

That's what I was thinking. That the fuel was starting to jell up in the line's. Because of the temps.

[@Ultrafrozen]

@@northernmichiganoverland Canadian diesel fuel doesn't gel as we use winter additives. I knew what that was a long time ago but I'm sure a Google search would identify it. I should wait until the end to see if he mentions it.

[@IronWolfOverland]

GREAT discussion of the heater plan. There are some good videos this winter of people ACTUALLY using their gear in cold weather, with many reported failures. I keep it simple with a Mr. Heater ceramic block buddy heater; but I am still subject to a plugged filter or a frozen propane line, so I always have a couple of layers of contingency plans.

[@desertdaisyoverlandco.3366]

Lol. Sorry guys. I wasn’t trying to be nit picky. Love the channel. You guys are living the dream.

[@LifestyleOverland]

Haha! No worries at all! It's like having a booger and no one ever telling you... and you just walk around all day with a booger hangin' out. I'd rather a little embarrassment than that! Thanks!

[@rebekahosgoodadventures7435]

Glad you had a good adventure with a warm night's sleep.

[@LifestyleOverland]

Us too! Thanks!

[@carollyngillespie3860]

Love the deer just standing there looking like, " Hey! Whatcha doin'?"

[@rickwatkins3160]

I follow several overland youtubers I've noticed overlanders eat Really well good job

[@LifestyleOverland]

It's really just about the food with beautiful backdrops ;)

[@reinmansmith]

Another great episode and more wonderful camera work recording the amazing scenery 👍 So glad you got to sleep in the warm as well 😊

[@bean-pod]

We got a 4-Dog American made steel wood stove for winter camping. Hubby rigged it with insulated pipes so we could use it in the tent. Going on 15 years, thing still goes strong👍The guy who makes them also makes them in titanium

[@chingon_grandpa]

The thermostat on the header reads surrounding temp, obviously. so if its outside in the cold with the heating unit, it will never shut down and continue to run at high heat. I had to extend the wires from the unit to the thermostat and keep the thermostat in tent. Also, exhaust should be pointed downward or horizontal. Hope this helps..I'm very happy with this cheap heater.

[@rtwatson78]

There is no "thermostat" on these units. Only adjustable fuel rates and fan speed "control" the output.

[@chingon_grandpa]

@Rob Watson damn, I did not know that..then why would it have a temp read out? Or at least my has a temp read out.

[@amyheflin143]

So glad you got the heater working. We are backpackers from the old days and I remember some VERY cold nights in the Smokies, so I can empathize. So what was in that last meal you made...white beans, tomatoes, quinoa? Love your family-centered show.

[@unfi6798]

Hey guys.! Hope Christmas was kind & stay safe for 2022. Magnificent sceneries accompanied by great soundtrack. I am very interested with those rock arts. Where is it located? and where can I go to get more info on the drawings & history. I'm turning 65 this year and I know exactly what I'll be doing....what you guys are doing. Cheers for sharing, Greetings from Christmas Island.

[@fcknsick]

Also a Wildpeak MT owner! I love em

[@studiobrar1692]

Houston, we got hot air :) Cheers folks!

[@LifestyleOverland]

All clear for sub-zero adventures :D

[@ducluv]

Thank you for the trouble shooting as a culture we tend to just pass on to the next thing if something doesn't go as planned. Your discipline is good evidence to show that some things are worth the time and effort. We just received our heater as well and hope to get longer seasons of adventures now!

[@UtahNick71]

Cold is good for you. I don’t want to spend 24 hours in it. I coached my soccer team today and it was 28 degrees. I just keep telling the kids that it’s boosting their metabolism and immune system. Can’t wait to get to Utah at the end of February.

[@tsubodzuka]

Would love to hear what you have to say about narrower vs wider tires in regards to balancing on-road and off-road performance in your upcoming video.

[@TheMsnwvu5]

Great episode guys.

[@cdeboer11]

My guess is the fuel is gelling. If it was summer blend there’s no way it would flow well in those tiny fuel lines in those temperatures

[@wodgesad]

Run it on pure kerosene not diesel at those temps.

[@cdeboer11]

@@wodgesad I've heard kerosene is too dry for them, maybe a blend is a good idea? Plus kerosene is many times more expensive

[@zr2overlander323]

If you run a 80/20 blend of Kerosene/Diesel there is enough lubrication in the fuel to avoid any problems.

[@J.Young808]

As I suggested in previous videos put a 5/16 nut driver in your heater kit so it’s easier and faster to attach the hose

[@LifestyleOverland]

But then I have to dig it out... Leatherman was ready to go :D

[@Ruxt619]

We ran the Falken Wildpeaks for about 9,000 miles and returned them. The on-road rain traction is scary; they would break loose vary easily with the Tacoma being re-geared. Now running the Maxxis Razor ATs 33s, which is a hybrid tire with MT side walls and outer tread and with AT inner tread. I can't break these tires loose in the rain if I tried, and I tried really hard too, absolutely blowin away at the performance. The off-roading is Supreme! and I've owned BFGs, Falken, General, and Mickeys, nothing comes close to the Maxxis Razors both on road and off road. The side wall flex of these tires is amazing as well and I've got the AT LTs too, which is crazy for 10 ply tires. Maxxis did a really good job at gearing these tires for off-road conditions. Give them a try next time, and you realize that all the other brands have some catching up to do.

[@gabrielbrosch1793]

Run it full blast for 10 to 20 minutes before you put it away. I use the same thing in my semi truck and this helps prolong thr carbon buildup.

[@jandyke9995]

Another great adventure. If only those petroglyph could talk. Those heaters are great once you get the settings dialed in

[@timithyjinkins786]

I love watching you guys' videos

[@rickw9008]

Howdy from neighboring Maryville Tn! Just found your channel and love the content! Might see you on the local forest roads sometime. Stay safe and keep enjoying life with your wonderful family.

[@Live2dayWanderland]

We just did a trip last week -16f and -36f windchill, definitely can be fun (in a weird way) if properly equipped . Anytime outside is better than sitting at home lol

[@stevecoscia]

Fun and informative video. Looks similar to Goblin Valley at about 13:15 in the video. Are those Cooper AT3 tires?

[@glassguy283]

Good luck with those Falkens. Had them on my tundra and they were absolutely garbage. Made the switch to Toyo MTs and could not be happier!!!!

[@johnbornschein5525]

Always so beautiful

[@erichughes9098]

It looks very cold 😎👍

[@1WillyK]

I have no personal experience with diesel heaters but another channel I watch, Van City Van Life, has a Webasto heater installed in his van. He has mentioned in the past that sometimes you have to run it at full blast for a while. Otherwise, it does exactly what your heater did.

[@Whitedogoverland]

My heater went out a few weeks ago in the same climate, on my fiancé’s first camp trip. Not a great first impression.

[@carolgale2590]

Love your videos

[@WolfOverland]

my 2022 diesel gladiator rubicon came with the wildpeak mts. they are quiet on the road vs my grabber x3s i had on the tundra. have not ran a trip with them yet so i also am waiting on your review

[@MikePark]

​looking forward to the tire episode. I have a stock 2016 4Runner SR5 and in the market for new shoes. Planning to offroad more next year.

[@DB1Journeys]

I have the exact same year and model. I went with BFG KO2's…hate them. Very hard to balance. Stay away from those. Happy wheeling!

[@DavesRvRepair]

👍👍 great share !

[@guygolan6812]

Amazing views! These areas of south central Utah doesn’t “enjoy” the popularity of Moab even in the high season, in the winter you you just have the whole place to yourself. Those cold nights are not super fun. For me the the main difficulty is that mental barrier that you need to overcome in order to get out of the tent in the morning 🥶🥶🥶

[@timfranklin7560]

Diesel fuel is different from Sumer to Winter - to winterise diesel you add 10% kerosine, this stops the was in the fuel from solidifing and claging things up.

[@jeremiahlawrence4120]

No Ctane it gelled up diesel fuel freezes/ gels up under 30 degrees if it’s not treated, I’m a trucker I’ve had it happen

[@hermanvanrensburg4901]

Pity you cannot get cabin heat from the Lexus up into the tent. That way you could just let it idle and lul yo self to sleep with the V8 😉🤠. Question, how long would those fire pit rocks hold heat if you put them all together in a bag of sorts?

[@عليحسينالعلي-ع7ب]

The time is now 8 pm in Baghdad Watch the video in the morning Greetings to you Ali from Iraq

[@LifestyleOverland]

Enjoy! Thanks for watching!

[@jackwalsh1468]

Perhaps the old fuel contributed to the high carbon deposits in the catalyst chamber. Also fuel having gelling problem with the lower temps. Perhaps a winter additive to prevent fuel gelling. Given the lean burn condition. Also a humble request for Sarah's "Meatball Pho" recipe, please??? I thank you in advance and cheers, mate.

[@escalade78]

Revere Overland and Venture 4wd would be 2 more good sources of technical info for your heater. Interestingly, Chris w/ Venture 4wd was having trouble with his gasoline fueled Wabasto heater and was thinking about switching to diesel. He was having trouble at higher altitude with proper atomization of his fuel, I believe. Revere Overland built a self contained unit in a Pelican type case. Good luck w/ your endeavor and, as always, Safe Travels.

[@PewDieC8kes]

I have a question 🙋🏽‍♂️ for you Lifestyle Overland fam, Why can’t you get a THICKER layer for your camper on top of your vehicle, so that it can HOLD heat better? Just asking to see if it is an option available 🤷🏽‍♂️ God bless y’all 🙏🏽

[@LifestyleOverland]

We've used insulating kits in the past but there's nothing like true, dry heat to fight off the condensation.

[@pnw_element9822]

I have the falkens wild peaks on my Honda Element at3w

[@kikizuliman6366]

Love this adventure family... Im from malaysia... 👍

[@LifestyleOverland]

Thanks so much!

[@e.c.8668]

There are outdoor youtubers that talk to the camera and tell you about where/what they are doing. And then there are those handful of channels that have figured out how to really bring you along. This channel is the latter. There are a few others here and there in other fields of expertise. I don't know how or what they do that's different than the other channels and I've really tried to figure it out. what draws me to this channel compared to others? I don't know what it is. Maybe it's the music. maybe the personalities. Maybe it's how the tell the story. I'll be back for sure.

[@hank1527]

Ever thought about trading your vehicles and trailer for a Revel? I remember the RV didn’t work out but Revel seems that it can give you the RV and Overland combined…and solar power would address the cold situation…

[@LifestyleOverland]

Never... Never ever... Totally done with that whole industry. We'll build a 4x4 van ourselves if we go that route.

[@badgerpa9]

@@LifestyleOverland You should build out a four wheel drive truck with your own camper on the back. Just not to wide or too tall.

[@blacksheepexpedition6347]

The exhaust should be lower as condensation runs back down the pipe and leans out fuel mixture. Also the muffler has to be notch down to the bottom.

[@magicworldbyjorg]

..cool video keep up the great content.. Thank you…

[@1a1u0g9t4s2u]

While you were retrieving the heater remote, hope you also took care of nature's call too. Sure makes for a long night putting mother nature on hold.

[@marcericdavis]

These diesel heaters hate any restriction to the hot air flow. If the hose from the heater to the car is too long or restrictive, you will have issues.

[@deldowns4150]

when it gets that cold you need to add fuel additive to keep fuel from jelling

[@deldowns4150]

power service is a good additive

[@thetommantom]

I might suggest a slow small heat instead of a huge volume of moving air that can't be fed

[@DThomas1976]

Have I missed the video on tires and pressures mentioned in this video? Or has it not happened yet.. 😬

[@raymondsander2939]

Hi could be fuel gel add arctic fuel conditioner to your heater

[@allenheaps2084]

Another great video guys that you for sharing Utah. Question on your off-road driving. I know you air down the tires but what mode do you usually drive in say 2 high, 4 high or are your rigs equipped with a AWD mode of some kind?

[@mastervoni1285]

Diesel fuel gel? From cold temp's? Anti gel additive?

[@Bigthoogs]

diesel does NOT like cold weather. It tends to "gel", and may be what is causing your fuel delivery issue at 14*. I recommend getting new fuel and adding some anti gel additive.

[@AdventureDude2000]

I love Gyro Meat! I make it from scratch!

[@GallabrigoOnTheGo]

If the one truck has the tent and kitchen what’s in the other one?

[@raulgolfs]

Beautiful place. But man that's too cold for my blood.

[@sierramantrvlnus]

Yay!

[@lesa3249]

U should have went up the hill from the power shed and took a photo of the dozer

[@tomfrengillo]

Also, run at max temp for 10-15 minutes before shutdown, helps burn off carbon build up.

[@GallabrigoOnTheGo]

What brand sleeping bag would you recommend for cold weather? We are in Ontario Canada and I would love to try some winter camping.. suggestions ?

[@jandyke9995]

I am in BC and use MEC down bags

[@mercurials54]

Does the GX suspension have longer travel than the 4Runner? Seems the 4Runner lifted the front driver tire while y’all were driving out the valley.

[@2104mpi]

Are you using a weBoost or similar wifi booster on Aspen?

[@davidk6668]

I know that propane heaters like Propex are more expensive but far more reliable. Any thoughts.

[@LifestyleOverland]

Considering some other options to test in the future for sure. Might even build our own setup...

[@davidk6668]

@@LifestyleOverland I would like to see someone build a portable propane heater like your diesel heater. This has been an idea I have been considering. Glad to hear you will be exploring other options. Thanks

[@Doublebit-pk1el]

My favorite tire by far, good choice

[@LifestyleOverland]

Everyone we've talked to seems to like them!

[@barrymcghee1]

While we are on the topic Kevin chorizo is pronounced Chu-riz-o and not triz-o. My mexican wife made me point lol. We love you guys!

[@tomfrengillo]

At very cold and higher elevations, try a kerosene mix

[@NarleyAdventures]

👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻

[@washingtonfranco772]

👏👏👏🇧🇷 Brazil

[@WoodcockFamilyOverland]

The diesel heater is a must to get the family out camping in winter! Or more so to convince the wife 😂

[@LifestyleOverland]

Sarah used to HATE the cold and refused to camp in it... now look at her! :D

[@ZacTexC]

Summer is worse than winter

[@LifestyleOverland]

Agree 100%!

[@229Reaper]

do not put your exhaust up in the air,these unit are sensibles...condensension need to drop out.

[@paty7018]

🙋💕

[@iwishiknew10]

Carbon buildup?

[@jasonwatts9239]

Hey, when you're from TN you say things differently.

[@michaelpope3671]

😈 P r o m o S M.