What Nobody Tells You About In Ear Monitors - Are They Worth It?

[@PreacherwithoutaPulpit]

Open and honest review with some answers to questions we don't always see answered. I've been in the IEM hobby for going on 10 years now and the advancements in the last 3 years alone have been staggering. There are what used to be considered budget sets in the $300 to $500 price range that absolutely dwarf in terms of sound quality and tuning similar offerings from the past. Also for universal fit we didn't use to have the over abundance of choices as far as materials used, shape, density, softness/firmness we do today. If you can't find an ear tip for your IEM that not only makes them sound as they should, (if it's a well tuned set), fits your ear well, offers the level of isolation you're looking for and stays in place, you simply haven't tried enough of the different sets available. There are also so many decent sets today in the sub $100 and sub $50 price points that it's truly amazing. These budget sets that cost 1/20th or less of what decent sets of the past cost and sound so much better it's laughable when you think about it, that or it will make you cry like I did considering all the wasted cash. Then again back then if you wanted IEMs that was just the cost of entry. When China got into the game it drastically changed things and yes most of them are cheap junk but their are some good companies as well such as Moondrop, 7hz, Raptgo, Letshuer, Tang Zu and others that bring quality and good sound in their more affordable models. I would also advise anyone looking into getting IEMs learn the different drivers sound characteristics and what's available. You can now actually get extremely good Planar Driver IEMs like the Raptgo HookX, Tang Zu WuZatain or 7hz Timeless for around the $229 price point that absolutely destroy the $1100 to $1200 Planar IEMs of old. Sorry for the wall of text but as you can tell this videos is on a topic I care very much about and I wish everyone could hear what a good set of IEMs with the right ear tips can do for them when it comes to either work or play...

[@ColeParamore]

Thanks for the kind words and all the great knowledge!

[@ColeParamore]

I know you listed a few, but which brands would you consider the best in the sub $100 price point, as well as the planar driver options?

[@PreacherwithoutaPulpit]

@@ColeParamore Companies like Moondrop, Dunu, KiwiEars, TinHiFi, KZ (but they're very much hit or miss),and Tang Zu of crouse there are others but I do know with Moondrop other than a few sets like the Spaceship everything in their $110 all the way down to the no frills Quarks are good. For me personally the set that has the most affordable yet still very good Single DD are the Moondrop Starfields, although the Aria get close.The TinHiFi T2 are very good but are also getting long in the tooth being I think 4 years old now. The Tang Zu Wan'er are a $29 or less set that are extremely good value when it comes to sound quality for very little money. I don't want to steer you wrong so watch some reviews, (I know the irony telling a KZbinr to watch KZbin reviews), as there are some very good ones out there. HBB at Bad Guys good audio reviews is very good and explains why he likes or dislikes a set with music and even if a set isn't his flavor/tuning he'll give a very discriptive unbiased review. You have of course Crinacle, Timmy sorry I can't remember the name of his channel and many others. In the US we don't have retailers where we can listen to a set before purchase so good reviews is very important. Sorry I'm not really up on the latest as I finally attained my "End Game" sets and haven't been buying any for about the last 6 months. I was able to get both a set of Moondrop Blessing 2 and Kinera Skuld in used like new condition off eBay and haven't felt the itch for a new set since. If you can afford to get them the Kinera Skukd are and outstanding all BA set that doesn't sound like it's an all BA set. Being honest I really don't think a better bang for buck exists than the Moondrop Blessing 2, ( I haven't heard the new Blessing 3's but I hear good things about them). I hope this helps and if you have any other questions don't hesitate to ask although KZbin will probably hesitate in notifying me... Take care and God Bless Edited for spelling

[@ColeParamore]

@@PreacherwithoutaPulpit Your experience is highly valued. As someone who worked in retail for years, it's hard to find a substitute for someone who has really nerded out over a particular industry. I've done that for sure on almost everything drum related, and for much of the audio world as well, but IEMs I have significantly less experience in, so this is super helpful for me, and hopefully helpful for anyone else cruising this video. In fact, I'll pin the comment for just that purpose.

[@PreacherwithoutaPulpit]

@@ColeParamore Thank you for the pin and I hope you're having fun in this crazy hobby. The reason I responded as I have is I really did want to offer help and hopefully as you said these walls of text actually do help someone. Take care and God Bless...

[@DaPhunk73]

Thanks for another great video! I have been using custom IEM's for more than 15 years, now Westone ES60, before them UE18. I agree with most of your conclusions, including that people who are using universal fit IEMs without any problems will not experience that much difference, going custom mold. And the "diminishing returns" setting in at 6 drivers. If not earlier. If you have a decent set of IEMs that fit your ears, and that you like, your problem will not be that your IEMs don't sound good in themseves, it will be ever experiencing a IEM mix that actually sounds really good and exciting. That wont happen unless you work with a top notch monitor sound tech, or do very long sound checks, or always play with the same band and gear. While playing with IEMs do protect your ears if you are in a loud band, IEMs is not very fun or exciting to use unless the mix sent into them is top notch. Having the worlds most expensive 12 driver custom mold IEMs will not make much difference if the mix sent to them is bad, or even just mediocre.

[@ColeParamore]

100% with what you're saying. I realized I definitely could have talked more about exactly what you're talking about (having a good mix vs having good ears) and I think that's a hugely important point. I'm in Fairbanks, AK right now for a show and will be putting together a shorter video covering this exact point. Thanks for watching!

[@redgopnik2227]

Pleasantly surprised with how good and informative this video was. I started watching completely expecting to get clickbaited by the title but ended up getting a cohesive user experience retelling and some solid advice 👍good video I'll almost definitely stick with universal fits myself, I'm too much of a spare equipment locker for the rest of the band/even the venue sometimes, so I need my stuff to be able to be shared... and never returned.... ahaha maybe I should get custom molds 😭

[@ColeParamore]

Glad it was helpful! My intention is always to try and give useful information and honest opinions without fluff.

[@sthephanieguerrero]

Great video, thank you! I'm just a normal person who just found out they exist, and I want them to listen to music, so your advice was really valuable!

[@PhatSimey]

Great balanced review. I have custom moulds (slightly flexible silicon, not solid) on a pair of old Klipsch X10i and they are amazing compared to the round universal umbrella type tips they came with. The biggest issue with universals, for me at least, is that the hole in you ear is oval, not round! I have always found foam/silicon ear tips and those foam earplugs for working in high noise environments to be really uncomfortable, and a poor fit. Best things to this day are the Bose StayHear tips that are on all of their ear buds (can wear these for 10 hours straight), although they have stopped making ear buds with cables, so you have the Bluetooth latency to deal with. Bose have never made any IEMs or headphones for stage/recording use, though, shame.

[@trubadyr99]

Actually, I thought of this concept myself before. The “Slightly flexible silicon”: can you point in this direction? Where do I go to get them?

[@jpcampos]

Custom molds changed the game for me. After getting my first pair, I wish I would have got them 10 years ago. I have the Ultimate Ears UE11 Pros. It changed the game for in terms of isolation. I play in drum cages most of the time and the isolation you get from customs is the #1 selling point for me. They are 4 drivers and the drivers had to warm a bit for me to like them. I can't live without them now. Also, they hurt my ears for the first month because I got a super tight fit. I opened my mouth super wide when I got my impressions done. I thought about sending them back in the first month but I'm glad I didn't because they fit perfectly fine now. This is after a year and a half of getting them.

[@ColeParamore]

Great insight, thanks John!

[@taidee]

Nice in depth video, wonderful man. One of the win for universals for me is that I have kids and love to pass stuff I love to my kids, especially when I decide to upgrade, and CIEMs would mean I can never pass them to my kids.

[@jackk8093]

I love my westone custom Molds. I have had to have them repaired after 7 years of using them and they have excellent customer service.

[@pinacoco2]

Great review, tons of useful tips. Thank you

[@MiguelLSilva-ef5is]

Great video. Very useful user experience. I’d like to add some personal experience that might be useful. I started out with Shure SE215. After using the universal fit for a while I started to inform myself about custom molds. Since I was on a budget I tried out the Amazon custom in ear mold kit ($ 11). After a couple of fails I ended up with a pair of molds with very good seals and much more confortable than the universal fit. This is a very cheap solution and because the mold is independent from the earbuds it has some other side benefits like maintaining the resell price of your IEMs, possibility of making new molds if your ear canal changes over time, etc. As a guitarist and vocalist I like to hear to my stereo mix as good as I can. The better the sound, the better I can perform. I need to enjoy what I’m hearing so I’m looking for IEM options to upgrade from my SE215. Other issues: most of the time I use my IEMs in rehearsal space with my band. So a good seal is critical to isolate myself from the drums. Only problem of a good seal as a vocalist is occlusion (you hear the resonance of your voice inside your head more than your actual voice). That phenomenon tends to become less noticeable as the volume of the in ear mix becomes louder.

[@ColeParamore]

Great info, thanks for sharing!

[@nicolaebreaban8154]

A great and honest video, thank you!

[@alanhassall]

I think that custom molds are more expensive because the drivers have to fit into a custom shell and be tuned for sound. The universal fits are probably designed to accommodate the drivers. I’m sure that the fact that they are custom does influence the cost too. As a motorcyclist, I would like custom molds to decrease the sound in the helmet, but they can’t stick out of the ear very much. At the moment, I’m using Mee Audio 6pros with custom molded tips. The work pretty well for my use.

[@tonyadams6985]

I’m waiting for some in ears but with microphones, built-in to each piece, so that I may mix in some room to my needs. Even in the studio, as I’m a singer, I can’t bear, not having room ambience, and I feel too alienated & cannot perform as well. I’m hoping this will help because no matter where my head is, it picks up the Stage Sound, precisely where I am, rather than attempting to mix in with a mic or two, placed stationary on the stage, which is too artificial. I can put my head towards my guitar amp, and I will receive exactly where my head is placed, but with the benefit of having less or more of it I’m hoping they work as planned. The downside is I had to pay an additional $240 on top of everything to come from the USA to Australia, because we have an import duty applied to anything over $1000 purchase outside of our country! 3DME In-Ear Monitor System is what I’m receiving. I’m going buds to start with and moulds later if required.

[@Sensaphonics]

You should check our 3DME from ASI Audio x Sensaphonics. They have exactly the ambient technology you're asking for, with embedded mics and the ability to add the captured ambience to your monitor feed. Also has an app with 7-band EQ, limiter, and settings memory. The universal-fit version is $799US.

[@billcoward206]

I’m a saxophone harmonica player. The sound going through the mouth and into the ears is loud and bad with IEMs. Especially the sax. Sounds like a duck. Key clicks very noticeable. Just got the presonus universal control app and will try that next for the mix. But as a drummer you will not have the head noise problem. I’d love to hear from other horn players on this aspect of IEM

[@ColeParamore]

Great perspective Bill - I'd also like to hear any horn players or other instrumentalists chime in.

[@stephendenagy3396]

I have the u12t. It is perhaps the most accurate and balanced IEM ever. Detailed with slam. If you can afford it, it is an “ultimate” final purchase IEM. I also have the Nio, for the bass hit. But the u12t is so accurate! You chose well.

[@zelven6109]

not worth it in 2023

[@wjmba]

Why not u18t?

[@TheGoodDrEvil]

I've used universal fit and ACS custom IEMs. The ACS custom ones are soft silicon and the ambient models actually come with a filter hole and a plug, so they are kind of IEMs and custom ear plugs in one. You won't need to pop them in and out as often and they won't be as isolating. If you want them to be, you can pop in the full stops. I had their old 3 driver model for a few months and found them too dark and heavy sounding so I actually went to a much cheaper single full range driver one. I'm now considering an upgrade to the 'ambient' full range or dual driver one. It's a matter of taste but I prefer clarity and definition over a ton of low end. So when I hear about these 6-12 driver models.... more is not necessarily more. My €0,02 at least.

[@ColeParamore]

Great insights - thanks for sharing!

[@TerrySimon-q3c]

The appearance of such a miniature pair of headphones, the Surprisingly good quality of music, the midrange resolution is very strong

[@dima_plays_drums]

MoonDrop Blessing 2 or MoonDrop Variations are some good less expensive IEMs but still with the high sound quality to start with. I'd also definitely recommend to mike & mix the whole drum kit properly. I'm using the stereo in-ear-monitoring with some nice stereo image where each piece of my drum kit (i.e. each channel or a microphone) is panned to my liking. Where do you actually plug your IEMs into? Do you use some sort of pre-amp?

[@ColeParamore]

In my room that you see here I'm going straight out of the headphone out of my UA Apollo 8p. Sorry for the late reply!

[@lucaspdersolii]

The B2 fitted like a glove in my ear. I wouldn't be surprised if a custom fitted "exactly the same" (in terms of comfort, ik most likely not the exact same).

[@Elboy522]

Took the plunge on some UE RR IEMs. Best purchase I've ever made

[@ColeParamore]

Nice!

[@epicunicat20]

Honestly, I'm not an audiophile nor am I in the music industry..... I just like that you can replace the cable very easily rather than having to open the earbuds or snip the end and solder a new jack on. The sound quality for the price is just a great bonus, not that I would necessarily notice any difference... I spend quite a bit on earbuds as is anyway, might as well get something modular that I can replace the cable on or even get a Bluetooth module for.

[@dgmus2281]

Fantastic video. Thank you! I'll be sharing this a ton.

[@ColeParamore]

Thanks Dylan, glad it helped!

[@tobiaswinter1358]

Just waiting on my 64s, great to see that video of yours recommending the company.

[@ColeParamore]

Nice! What'd you end up going with?

[@tobiaswinter1358]

@@ColeParamore A6t

[@ColeParamore]

@@tobiaswinter1358 Nice!

[@sylfraeaveniore2684]

C-IEMs are definitely worth it. If you have the money to put into one, as it offers a better seal overall. Also has better material resonance with your ear. You would need to get a mould of your ears usually first and send it to the manufacturer. They're usually priced around 1000 USD for the cheapest pairs, but can go lower for 750 USD total (if buying from Japan, Kumitate Labs bought by a friend from SG, largely lower due to USD inflation). Just need to look into reviews of the unit you are considering before buying the custom. *hugs my 150 USD Intuaura Luna Plume*

[@BillRayDrums]

Custom molds gave me the ability to hear music and actually feel it like I need to in order to be my best. I like them better for live, as they're basically invisible. Totally worth it if you're working a lot. If you're a bedroom player, stick to the iso headphones... or spend the $600-$1000 to come to the same conclusion. :D

[@junyagaming]

Using the Shure right now. I’m quite happy with the results so far, but will work to get that one.

[@johndennis9838]

I also use 64 audio. I’ve noticed crazy differences in sizes of others IEM’s due to their ear shape and size. (Your ears do kind stick out too, just saying) the ones I got are clear so they’re not as noticeable.

[@SebastianTimothy-u2x]

The excellent density makes the instrumental texture perform better, audition

[@LeeLimerick]

I use KZ AS10s, 5 drivers, amazing for the money. They're on another planet to the SE215s. I swapped the rubber buds for memory foam buds and always use large to get a tight fit. I've used custom mold plugs before but not custom IEMS, but these cheap old things do a fine job. I've found that the gear and the engineer feeding them can make more difference than my budget ever could.

[@ColeParamore]

Very valid point on the mix being at least as important as the monitor.

[@DJ3DBoyie1]

Agreed! I’m currently using the KZ’s as well, after being EQ’d through a behringer x32 console through wireless packs the KZ’s can sound amazing for my live performances. I’m a DJ and MC my events, so I definitely need to have a vocal/music balance so I’m not yelling into the mic from having too much isolation. Anyone looking for a super budget yet quality IEM’s id recommend the KZ’s.

[@r-bascus]

Uses pretty good JBL headphone plugs. They work well and I hear the drum set well. I don't need top sound when I doing a gig, as long as I hear what the others play. And for recording in a studio, usually have good headphones.

[@einaraarnes1378]

as i 0u1nderstand it, you need to have to get a new mold done every ten years.. i got a pair of ACS custom iem's, they are not made of hard plastic, but some kind of medical silicone, they are awsome. the seal is exeptional and they move with you're ear without breaking the seal. very happy with them..

[@ColeParamore]

Interesting I'll have to investigate those.

[@donaldwolff]

It's interesting to hear you talk about IEMs as if they're only for musicians. Personally, I sold all my headphones after trying IEMs-they simply deliver a better, more beautiful sound. I also don’t agree with the idea of diminishing returns when it comes to high-end IEMs. I believe that the final 10% of performance from top-of-the-line models is where the magic really happens. My last three sets cost over $13,000, and nothing else in the world sounds like them. Ultimately, it's all about what you value in life.

[@ColeParamore]

This video is definitely from the musician's perspective. This is definitely meant to be a music channel rather than a general tech or audiophile channel. It sounds like what you're saying is at the end of the bell curve in cost is where you actually get the most benefit in sound quality. Totally respect that opinion! Also respect for having put down $40k on in-ears alone. That's some serious dedication.

[@donaldwolff]

@@ColeParamore 13k for all 3 not each 😳

[@ColeParamore]

@@donaldwolff Ah! That makes more sense. A decent car payment instead of a house payment lol.

[@mypetvelociraptor]

Yes, but nothing is more frustrating than trying to find reviews for inner monitors and all you find is people playing video games.😂😂😂😅 definitely not enough reviews from actual musicians

[@elisanchez2276]

I have 2 pair A4 A8 They both sound amazing, and punchy

[@neilkendall5499]

Are you using a wireless IEM system? I'm wondering how different makes/models of wireless IEM transmitters/receivers compare in terms of sound quality.

[@ColeParamore]

I'm hardwired at the moment, going through a small mixer. I've used wireless systems as well and have yet to notice any serious drops in quality, but I haven't compared back to back. Good question and definitely worth investigating!

[@dwigtscott9552]

Your A12t sticks out more than my A18s. It seems like 12 drivers are harder to fit than 18 drivers. I have very small ears btw and I feel like my A18s fit is flush.

[@BryanMoreiraFCB]

Great video my friend 🔥

[@misterkenova6695]

Great video dude!

[@Allcutup]

I’m a little nervous after watching this. I ordered the Ultimate Ears premiere 21 drivers. After Customization, ear molds, etc. I’m in for almost $4k. I am a vocalist primarily and have substantial hearing loss (I wear hearing aids) and have a lot of trouble with headphones hearing certain things. I hope the extra expense is worth it for me. My hearing aids are usually in the $6,000 range so I’m used to overpaying. Reviews of the high end custom stuff are really hard to find.

[@ColeParamore]

In your situation with hearing loss, I think it makes more sense to have in-ears with a guaranteed fit and seal. Also bear in mind my ambivalence doesn't seem to be the norm. Most people I know get ears and say it's the greatest thing to happen to them. Good luck and report back!

[@vincentpagano1686]

Question for Cole: Hi Cole, I just stumbled on this video while looking for info about IEM's. Thanks for the info. I make a humble living playing the drums, playing various types of music. At the beginning of the year I Joined a premier Boston wedding band and they use IEM's. I don't really have a choice in the matter seeing the keyboard player doesn't bring an amp and everyone uses them. It did take some getting used to and I've been using the Sure ones. the A6 seem like the way to go for an upgrade.All the years I've been playing without them, I would adjust my dynamics by feeling and hearing the room. but with the IEM's you can easily loose perspective. The way I've been doing it is, None of my drums in my mix( just hear them acoustically) and then bleed in what it need to hear from the others. I'm also trying to save my hearing.You did mention the Modules and using the "M 10" to hear your drums acoustically also I have to adjust my mix during the wedding because the beginning of a wedding and the hi energy dance set are very different. everyone will play and sing more aggressively and louder. So now that I've explained my particular situation I'm wondering if you have any additional suggestions or advice - molds or universal, do the A6 universals come with the sound modules as well? Etc.. thank you Cole and sorry for the long text.

[@ColeParamore]

Hi Vincent, I actually thought the universals didn't come with the modules, but I just checked and it looks like they actually do. Personally, even using modules that let in the most ambient noise, I still feel heavily isolated from the sound in the room. I think you'd have to add an additional mic near your kit to blend it back in if you really want the feeling of being in the room. If you've never had fit issues with universals I wouldn't hesitate to recommend them. Hope that helps!

[@vincentpagano1686]

Thanks Cole@@ColeParamore

[@rollinfever]

I'm looking to get some from JH Audio, these are the most budget friendly in ears I've seen

[@ColeParamore]

Saw them at NAMM as well - let us know how it goes!

[@JuanLopezmusica]

They are great too! I heard from people they own both 64 and Jh. They like more Jh

[@tommusik5863]

@@JuanLopezmusica JH Sharonas. They are above and beyond everything else they make.

[@JuanLopezmusica]

@@tommusik5863 I have Lola’s, and I love them! That was the only set that Jerry Harvey took the time to promote so much. Recently I order Roxanne and still like Lola’s more than the new set

[@tommusik5863]

@@JuanLopezmusica That's great! We all hear things a little differently. I tried them all, and for me the Sharonas were the clear winner.

[@JeremyLeech]

64Audio is where its at. I've had their V6 stage since 2013, when they were 1964 ears. I plan to get the A6t's next year! I will say, the Sennheiser Ie 100 and 400 pros are top notch too! I didn't have any problem with mine. They still work great.

[@ColeParamore]

Nice, I'm sure you'll dig em!

[@TheYouTubeMechanic]

They don't do refits if you don't like the way they look. Noted.

[@mylifepart2]

..when i got mine....my stage performance went so up that people at some major labels called me...for showcasing...i did not sign...but i did play in front of some big wigs...and that alone was incredible in itself....i went to a doctor to check my ears...then did the moulding...and then after two weeks got mine....if the price is less than $1500...then you are not getting what y need to get...these are expensive and there are reasons why...

[@PressuredSpeechBand]

The technology has come a long way so you can get amazing IEM for less than 200 bucks! If the mix is bad no set of IEM will sound good.

[@riffism]

Here’s what they DONT tell you about the myriad manufacturers of IEMs: They all buy their armatures from 2 companies…so price and warranty should be a major consideration. I have 64 audio IEMs, as well as Shure, Westone, and I’ve used UE and Gorilla Ears as well. My most recent pair is from InEarz because they were a better value AND they have the ADEL pressure relief system that 64 Audio USED to license but have since moved away from. But there are a number of companies out there that are cheaper than the major players and the components are the same internally. So look around

[@sniperfuazo6495]

some use their propriatery BA 64 sony and i think fir audio 64 and fir have tubeless BA and sony have their own custome BA that are no avalible

[@kingensai]

? Every IEM manufacturer I have interacted with list the OEM of the driver and if they are customized or not. Knowles and Sonion set the standard, most industries follow this model. It's all about the construction and tuning. That's what you are paying for. You can cheap out or build yourself, but some builders really nail the process and achieve excellent fidelity (Elysian Acoustics Labs for example) and some of us find that worth the cost.

[@muziekfeestje8635]

good information!

[@mylifepart2]

mine the mould - activates to my ear heat...so it expands to fit - few seconds of discomfort...then its comfortable after that...coz it settles in...

[@mylifepart2]

i used to remember when having these were not cool and musicians tried to hide them from the audience...NOW...its like fashionable to have them coz people now know what those are and how expensive that are...so its like a musicians Cool status to have one...especially custom made ones... i think the first band that started Decorating their IEMs were Linkin Park...theirs had their logo on theirs...so it was visible and stylish...when i went to studio for recordings and put mine on...people nearly asked me for my autograph...nearly...lol....

[@kreatos10]

as far as ik if you get a good universal it should sound identical to molded provided perfect seal but thats the massive elephant in the room getting consitent seal depending on people and use case mold might be completely irelevant .... if you play live music and want you iem to stay well custom mold should help a lot ....

[@ColeParamore]

As much as I'm a proponent of universals I don't think that's quite true. Custom molds allow them to have the speaker itself be further into your ear canal and pointing in a particular direction.

[@aaron_phillips]

Hey, so I’m a worship pastor and I’ve been unhappy with the SE215s. They just seem to get uncomfortable after a bit. I’m thinking custom molds would be beneficial. I’ve gotta say, I’m actually decently happy with the sound of the 215s so do you think saving some money and going with the cheaper options from 64 are worth the investment?

[@ColeParamore]

If you like the Shures I think even the A2 models would be a big step up.

[@boabglen]

I'm looking at getting the mach 80 iem from westone as they're on like a 50% special in NZ. I might end up customizing the ears myself. I'm hoping that's a way to get a good set but without breaking the bank of customs from the get go. They're on special at $1600 nz from $3000nz ​@ColeParamore

[@UlfTv]

I use a pair of Direct Sound Extreme Headphones and Im thinking switching to IEM. Over Ear headphones gets annoying after some time and Im sure how good they sound. Will IEM sound better than over ear headphones?

[@ColeParamore]

I don't think you can categorically call either better than the other. If you dislike the profile of over-ears, that alone is probably worth trying IEMs. Expensive over-ears will certainly sound better than inexpensive IEMs, but the Direct Sounds shouldn't be too difficult to match or exceed sound-wise in a pair of IEMs.

[@nurmbms90]

Ahhh 64 audio IEMs. Just owning one of their good ones , is like an end game audiophile IEM.

[@lordlopes2424]

Pretty sure I will never have the money for something like this I my country we have a company called Audiodream Their models are crazy The verso and somnium est are one of the best

[@ColeParamore]

I love hearing about all the interesting companies out there - wish I could try them all!

[@lordlopes2424]

@@ColeParamore Yeah This one is from Brazil They are just like 64 audio Their most expensive model is the sommnium aether,1DD,4BA,4EST From what I know is almost 4.000$

[@zeissiez]

Just get a set of Tanchjim Origin, straight as a ruler sound profile.

[@666thsense]

how is the earwax on the customs and cleaning it off of the soundholes and everything

[@ColeParamore]

Kind of a PITA to be honest. I try to just use tissue if available to wipe them down after each use, but it does keep me from putting them in and out as frequently as I might want to.

[@thatsmynamesowhat2949]

I just paid a lot of money for some and they sound awful. You’re right, there’s no way to test them out so I’m out a lot of money. They don’t even sound good with mixed and mastered music. It’s really disappointing.

[@ColeParamore]

Ah man, so sorry to hear that. There's always the possibility there was some manufacturing issue, I did have that with these and they do sound great after being fixed. What models did you go with?

[@thatsmynamesowhat2949]

@@ColeParamoreI got the 5 driver customs. The company is gonna get in the phone with me to try and see if there’s an issue. Their customer service has been wonderful so no problems there. I’m hoping it’s something that can be resolved. What was the issue with yours?

[@ColeParamore]

@@thatsmynamesowhat2949 Yours were also 64s? If so they definitely shouldn't sound terrible, and I'm sure you'll get it figured out one way or another. Two random thoughts - I'm embarrassed to say it but when I first got mine I simply wasn't pushing them in far enough and was getting poor results. That was totally on me. I did actually have an issue where a driver in one of the ears failed or wasn't installed properly, so that had to get sent back and sorted out.

[@thatsmynamesowhat2949]

@@ColeParamoreno they weren’t 64’s. I don’t want to blast the company on the internet because they’re really good folks and I want to wait to see if there’s a real issue. I’ve used a set of JH Audio for the last 10 years and they sounded amazing when I first got them. Of course, they’re worn out now. The ones I just got sound very brash, and super narrow midrange. Even when I listen to music from my phone they sound bad. I’m a guitar player so my tone has to be spot on.

[@ColeParamore]

@@thatsmynamesowhat2949 It's interesting, I used a set of Shure SE535s for years and never really dug them, but figured it must be me since they were (at the time) the highest end Shure IEMs. Come to realize later that they're specifically voiced for singers and thus, super mid-rangy. Not saying that's the situation with yours but back to the original point, it's a bummer when you don't have an opportunity to hear something first.

[@aparker507]

Great video. I have custom dual driver ultimate ears customs, and while they fit perfectly, unfortunately, my cheap KZ and CCA iems absolutely destroy them for sound

[@ColeParamore]

Thanks Adam! Curious about the KZ and CCAs - do you find them more balanced or just more fun to listen to?

[@aparker507]

@@ColeParamore honestly both. Some models have some higher highs for example. For drums, CCA ca-16, KZ DQ6, specifically are amazing. The CCA ca16 are nearly custom fit for my ears. These also put the shures to shame in my opinion.

[@ColeParamore]

@@aparker507 Very interesting - will have to check them out.

[@mowhoudin]

Hi! Are the universal ones really fit to the ears? I mean, if you move around could they may fall?

[@ColeParamore]

It's very person-to-person. Mine never fall out but some people have odd shaped ears or difficulty finding a good fit. Definitely try some cheaper ones first to see what works for you.

[@ironblast5]

The thing you gain going with A12t over the A6t is more clean headroom allowing more clarity before clipping distortion at higher volume. I personally got the A3e and they sound great but lack abit in the upper mids and if I could have done it again I'd get the A4s as it uses a dynamic driver for the lows and frees up a extra 2 balanced armature drivers for the mids this alows guitar power chords to have more girth behind them in a mix and adds slightly better instrument separation.

[@ColeParamore]

Out of curiosity, are you ever driving them loud enough that you truly feel they're clipping before being unbearably loud?

[@dragonballz3458]

Yeah 64 audio iem’s are worth it.

[@davidmcaninch4714]

NAMM doesn’t let just anyone attend their shows. Unless they are in the music industry, a manufacturer, a demonstrator, or has a friend who’s any of these who can invite them, they can kiss their NAMM dreams goodbye, just like I did.

[@toddcooper5781]

Personally I use nothing but BASN IEM’s… I paid $69.00 on Amazon and they are Quadrivers

[@sleepe8050]

What else have u tried or owned?

[@JuanLopezmusica]

Personal custom is a different level.

[@Alepap.]

11:32 "Yeah we don't usually do it, but in your case that you are a youtuber, and can influence the purchase decision of potentially 3.3k people, sure we'll do it"

[@ColeParamore]

Ha, I'm flattered but my clout definitely isn't at the level of swaying larger companies yet.

[@misterkenova6695]

Do you run your in ears in stereo or mono? Got a sub dude.

[@ColeParamore]

Much appreciated! The only things that would sub to mono would be if live tracks aren't running stereo. In every situation where I can get stereo, that's how they'll run.

[@KevinClarkKevinClark]

Could u suggest me the smallest earbuds for my small ears???

[@ColeParamore]

Custom molds will definitely fit the bill.

[@y.k.9705]

Since he was a kid ? he's still a kid.

[@ColeParamore]

Hey, I'll take it! That's how I feel at least. When do I exit the cutoff?

[@Leon_vandaele]

Do you need iem for electronic drum or not

[@ColeParamore]

You need some way to hear the kit, be it IEMs, headphones, or an external speaker.

[@jonahlmoore]

How does one even find a place to get custom molds?

[@ColeParamore]

The impressions or the monitors themselves?

[@jonahlmoore]

@@ColeParamore this is really confusing. If I buy a monitor system that has a transmitter and receiver I then need to buy the earbuds? And to get the best fit need to have a mold to my ear correct?

[@ColeParamore]

@@jonahlmoore It depends on what you mean by monitor system. If you're talking about a wireless transmitter and receiver, then yes, that's all they do. They'll take that signal from the mixing board and wirelessly transmit it to you (if that's what you need). You then need a way to actually hear (monitor) the signal, which is where in-ears come into play. You could use off the shelf universal fits, which many people do, or you can use custom molds if you'd rather have them fitted to your ear specifically.

[@jonahlmoore]

@@ColeParamore In ear monitors? I’m a buy once cry once type of guy I wouldn’t mind getting custom molded but where do I even go?

[@ColeParamore]

@@jonahlmoore Where would you go to buy the monitors, or to get the impressions done?

[@joshsmith7033]

What was causing the distortion???

[@ColeParamore]

It was one or more of the drivers either faulty or not wired correctly I believe.

[@joshsmith7033]

@@ColeParamore did they acknowledge it? Or just acted like nothing was wrong.

[@ColeParamore]

@@joshsmith7033 More like they were skeptical that there was a problem over the phone, then admitted they'd fixed something after sending them back. I just can't remember precisely what they said the problem was.

[@FELT.LIVEMUSIC]

@@ColeParamoreI have experienced something like this with a different IEM company - my particular issue was a loose/badly adhered tube from one of the armatures. It caused this fizzy and unbalanced sound, and caused the sound to be way quieter in one ear. This issue was caused simply by cleaning them, but it sounds like yours could have been a shipping mishap or just something missed in the QC/testing phase of production

[@ColeParamore]

@@FELT.LIVEMUSIC Yeah it was something that shouldn't have made it out of QC in my case.

[@chrome117]

bro the 64 headquarters are right next to my church which is 10 mintes from my house

[@karllager2214]

I have a pair of shure 215s that work fine if you're on a budget. $100.

[@jas_bataille]

I don't know why people think you need to shed 1500$ on custom made IEMs to get the IEM experience. I spend 74 bucks CAD on Tin Hifi T2+, they are phenomenal, look and sound incredible IMHO and I've worked in hi-fi before. Many Chinese compagnies make the bigger brands in the same factories through contracts anyway. They even look the part, and their foam tips are absolutely top-tier, before than any earplugs I tried as a live sound engineer. I don't know why people in 2023 equal in-ears with custom-molded super high-eng things. You don't have to get custom molded to get a great experience, and you don't have to shed this kind of money anymore... and it's been a few years. The barrier of entry is 10x lower than whatever this costed. It's great if it serves you, but yes, yes and yes, IEMs are 100% worth it. Now - is spending 1500 bucks on a single of earphones you might well lose at a gig worth it? Depends on much you use them and how much you're paid. Simple. For most working musicians, even touring pros, getting a few pairs of non-custom molded, affordable, pro-quality in-ears is a better investment IMHO than one pair of extra-premium ones. Now if you can afford both the super premium stuff and the back-ups, go for it, but if you can't afford back-up, that's a dangerous game to play. Those things have the very bad habit of getting lost extra fricking easy. Also put them in a carrying case. Pelican make the cases for the bigger brands they cost 20 bucks.

[@Oi-mj6dv]

Honest to god if you play horns or drums or anything on a loud stage if you go with the wedges instead of iems, youll go deaf. Its a 0iq choice if you ask me, hearing loss or iems? Lol if you are asking this question, you dont respect your hearing much. The answer SHOULD be obvious

[@mostyles328]

I know I was young once too, but this generation is so susceptible to audio snake oil. There is no reason you need 12 drivers or spend $2,000 for IEM. Are you playing a Stradivarius onstage?

[@ColeParamore]

Are you implying that there would be a perceptible difference in the Stradivarius?

[@mostyles328]

@@ColeParamorea perceivable difference, yes. Would it actually sound better? That would be subjective.

[@ColeParamore]

@@mostyles328 I would take a moment to consider the parallels between the Stradivarius example and the 12 driver IEMs.

[@TomasLonga]

Sounds like a very shitty buying experience for your money. Time to move to UE.

[@tantotanto9250]

I'm old school, i hate playing with in-ears.

[@pearldrumsets]

Wth kind of drummer doesn't move around smh😅😅

[@ColeParamore]

One that sits?

[@Sweetaccord]

No not worth it, put corks in your ears 🤣

[@onestarwill]

sounds like a nightmare