Coleman CT100U Throttle Stop Governor Removal & Top Speed - How To Bypass

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@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 2 жыл бұрын
Link to bike in description 👍
@hillbillytennesee7438
@hillbillytennesee7438 Жыл бұрын
I helped my grandson speed up his little ct100U by adjusting the throttle limiter screw. Yes it was welded. I cut about one quarter inch off and that was all that it needed to open up to full throttle. However he was insistent that it needed more speed so HE zip-tied the governor spring. I believe it reached 100 MPH. Well, after blowing up the motor and rolling it off a cliff. So, now he's the proud owner of my little Honda 125 monkey................and I got a new one!!!!!! Moral of the story, keep zip-ties away from young mini-bikes riders and U-tube shady tree mechanics. Hope this helps!!!!
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics Жыл бұрын
I hate to tell you this now based on what you said, but I posted one of those ziptie videos. However, in my video of it, I did make mention of the potential harms of doing such, that you need to keep it under 5000rpm to be safe (you can monitor this with a $20 electronic tach). But when people get impatient and skip through a video, they miss these crutial bits of information. I got several "mine blew up" comments on that video, to which I replied skipping through the video and they never reply back lol. Likewise, I bet your grandson is happy it happened since he got a Honda Monkey 125 in exchange, because that is a heck of an upgrade! You are a cool grandpa, and the parents or gaurdian are pretty cool too (unless they don't know lol).
@ScottieFindsFish
@ScottieFindsFish 2 жыл бұрын
awesome detail bro thank you
@austinbraden9405
@austinbraden9405 Жыл бұрын
I bent screw back just as you did and I have the 2021 3.0hp and after bending gov back mine went from 22mpr to 39 completely stock. All I did was bend gov back all the way
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics Жыл бұрын
You must not weight 230lbs like me lol. Maybe these engines don't have the internal governor like the 212 6.5hp engine does...
@Flaggrassmonkey
@Flaggrassmonkey 2 жыл бұрын
Got my brother going 55 with just the bent peice and after market air filter
@CringeComedyTV
@CringeComedyTV Жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
@masonchidester2720
@masonchidester2720 Жыл бұрын
Do you have to replace the spring?
@tristansidor9128
@tristansidor9128 3 жыл бұрын
Another good thing to do is engine swap it with the predator motor and bending that screw back I’ve token my bike to 40mph
@Jr2Shot
@Jr2Shot 2 жыл бұрын
with everything stock, i’ve bent the screw back and got 30
@MrJbrew69
@MrJbrew69 11 ай бұрын
I removed the spring and screw and mine is going 38-40. I weigh right about 160. The weight of the rider is a huge factor with these 3hp mini bikes
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 11 ай бұрын
Yup, for sure. They fly with the little kids on them that they were designed for. Imagine a 80lb 7-8 year old on it lol.
@MrJbrew69
@MrJbrew69 11 ай бұрын
@@BuckeyeBallistics yeah that would be awesome, my kids are scared of the thing right now but in due time
@BackwoodTV_
@BackwoodTV_ 10 ай бұрын
How did you remove it? You should’ve made a video on it for inquiring minds like me. I’m about purchase one to get me to work. Which is two blocks away 😂
@mikesbarn1858
@mikesbarn1858 3 жыл бұрын
Unmodified mine does 18 then you can feel the governor start pulling it back. I got this for my grandchildren to ride.
@jaminkanaziz1859
@jaminkanaziz1859 3 жыл бұрын
@gunsandcars do you know where I could get upgraded jets for this minibike and what size I need
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
I can't hardly find anything for the 100. There are some exhaust and filter kits on ebay and amazon for them, haven't seen jets yet specifically for the 100. I saw one guy just upgraded the carb for more flow (amazon), so that might be the only option. I don't think anyone makes performance stuff for them because everybody just swaps the pradator 212 into them for $100 and doubles the power. So if you want more power, that's your best option.
@geraldf4193
@geraldf4193 2 жыл бұрын
i guess Ill understand once I get mine but it didnt make any sense to me need to see what it looked like before i just saw a video of how it was sweet
@logkoddaniels2726
@logkoddaniels2726 2 жыл бұрын
I want one
@carguy3833
@carguy3833 3 жыл бұрын
So just did this and the top speed went from 19 to 22 mph
@JG-ys6bq
@JG-ys6bq 3 жыл бұрын
after doing this what are some other ways to make this bike faster ?
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
Well as I discussed in the video there is still an internal governor that is still limiting it that could be removed, but then the engine will rev too high without preemtive measures being taken by replacing things like the rod, valve springs, and flywheel so that you can safely rev that high. Probelm is, I have yet to find anyone who produces those parts for this engine. You can add a performance air filter, jet, and exhaust to it which will help it make a little more power and accelerate faster, but you still have that governor stopping you from going any faster. But what you can do though is change the sprocket size which will gear it "up," which will give it a higher top speed even with the governor in place, provided you have enough power and are a light enough rider to get it going any faster. On the flip side this will make it accelerate slower, due to the taller gearing. But most people just swap a Predator 212 into these, which instantly doubles the power, and then you can buy all the performance parts in the world for it to make it go as fast as you want. I'm still working on this bike and will be posting more videos about making it faster over the next few months...
@micahuhhhh
@micahuhhhh 3 жыл бұрын
yes
@jermainesmith4788
@jermainesmith4788 2 жыл бұрын
How tall are you? How does it compare in comfort to the other colemans on the market for a taller guy like myself ?
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 2 жыл бұрын
5'9" - the bigger ones are way more comfortable and I hope you payed attention to where I said this bike doesn't have enough motor for anyone over 150lbs. The larger ones have twice the power and are only $100 more; I bought this one for my 80lb daughter. Check out my reviews on the larger ones in the minibike playlist if you want to see those in action.
@xyloongfuel7638
@xyloongfuel7638 3 жыл бұрын
uh does this make it go faster or just give more throttle or just both because I’m 12 I’m getting one for my birthday April 28 and I want mines fast I watched another video it says if you put a zip tie around the spring thingy it goes faster idk and tips
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
Both. It allows you to go faster by allowing you to twist the throttle more. The zip tie thing, which I did a video on on one of the bigger bikes, bypasses the governor to allow the engine to rev higher to go faster- but you have to be careful doing this because if you rev the engine too high it can blow up. I discussed some of that in the zip tie video that I made, easily accessed on my minibike playlist on the channel...
@ipxtchgreen5008
@ipxtchgreen5008 3 жыл бұрын
How did u cut some of the governor before bending the screw
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
Cutting wheel on a Dremel rotary tool.
@coppertopv365
@coppertopv365 2 жыл бұрын
Or a bit of File time
@rubberboots7030
@rubberboots7030 3 жыл бұрын
Question did they change the throttle stop or is it still the same? I wanna make sure before I get one
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
Change how? Mine has the most modern rendering of it. The only difference I'm aware of is that you used to be able to back out the screw because it wasn't welded. Not so anymore...
@rubberboots7030
@rubberboots7030 3 жыл бұрын
@@BuckeyeBallistics Alr thanks
@rubberboots7030
@rubberboots7030 3 жыл бұрын
@@BuckeyeBallistics also how do you know if you’re reving the motor too much because I don’t want mine to blow up
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
If you only modify the throttle stop as I showed in this video, then you still retain the governor that protects it from reving too high. You can also get a digital tachometer from amazon or ebay or wherever that will show you your rpm. Not sure about this smaller angine, as there isn't much information about them out there, but for the 200's they say keep them under 5000rpm.
@rubberboots7030
@rubberboots7030 3 жыл бұрын
@@BuckeyeBallistics Alr thanks
@micahuhhhh
@micahuhhhh 3 жыл бұрын
mine goes 28. 100% recommended
@drizzydre4142
@drizzydre4142 3 жыл бұрын
How much does it go now
@percs7282
@percs7282 11 ай бұрын
Do you need any electric tools or can you just bend it back with a bar or something?
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 11 ай бұрын
You should be able to bend it with large pliers
@Dirtbillys
@Dirtbillys 3 жыл бұрын
Does your coleman vibrate bad when taking off?
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
No. When they do that, it's usually the clutch. The owners manual shows you where to lubricate it and where not to. Other than that, take it apart and inspect for damage and clean any dirt and debris out of it. I'm not saying for 100% certain it's the clutch, but that's the first place to start as it is the most likely cause.
@conley_v5848
@conley_v5848 2 жыл бұрын
What is a mostly safe rpm to stay at with governor zip tied?
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 2 жыл бұрын
5000
@conley_v5848
@conley_v5848 2 жыл бұрын
Ok thank you
@conley_v5848
@conley_v5848 2 жыл бұрын
Mine has a tiny spring connected to the tab the throttle stopper screw is on. Is it okay to take ofd?
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 2 жыл бұрын
I can't say without seeing it but I'd say probably not- it's probably some sort of return spring and your throttle might stick if you remove it.
@conley_v5848
@conley_v5848 2 жыл бұрын
@@BuckeyeBallistics ok guess I’ll just get the dremel and cut that screw thanks!
@ScottieFindsFish
@ScottieFindsFish 2 жыл бұрын
i did this to mine and it still only goes 23 mph i wish i rode it before i took the bolt off to see if it made a difference. its brand new from tractor supply. maybe i need to bypass that second governor
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 2 жыл бұрын
I bought mine new about 15 months ago, so maybe they changed something since then. The bikes older than mine never had the welded on screw, and they also didn't have the epa carb (for example). They keep changing crap on them...
@ScottieFindsFish
@ScottieFindsFish 2 жыл бұрын
@@BuckeyeBallistics it may have just needed breaking in as i got it up to 30 for a bit but then it slows down to 27 and stays at 27. not horrible, might get the upgraded carb in the future but i still have a blast with it i rode it for hours yesterday
@noahpollard4340
@noahpollard4340 2 жыл бұрын
Will a 212 predator fit on that bike?
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 2 жыл бұрын
Yeah, there are several on youtube with the 212 in them.
@michealvik1366
@michealvik1366 2 жыл бұрын
Bent the crew back mine went from 18 to 28mph
@mikesbarn1858
@mikesbarn1858 3 жыл бұрын
Havoc m5 fox does 51.
@aaronquiroz2474
@aaronquiroz2474 Жыл бұрын
Does anyone know why the throttle is so hard to pull back? I know you stated it in here but it don't make sense to me how this is for kids but it even hard for me to pull throttle all the way back and when I do hit top speed and let throttle go its hard to pull throttle back agean to maintain speed
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics Жыл бұрын
Yeah it doesn't make any sense because their bigger models have a much lighter throttle. I tried lubricating everything but that didn't help. I ended up removing one of the springs to make it a lot lighter, but risk the throttle not returning and getting stuck. I too would like to know if anyone has an answer or better solution...
@aaronquiroz2474
@aaronquiroz2474 Жыл бұрын
@@BuckeyeBallistics I took off the throttle housing and found the little plastic piece that the cable slides on the cable was off track. It's a little plastic piece. Works way better
@aaronquiroz2474
@aaronquiroz2474 Жыл бұрын
@@BuckeyeBallistics I think because the smaller motors have more going on down by the motor where the carb and the governor are. So many parts and arms and stuff where the 212cc is a little more simpler. 🤷‍♂️
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics Жыл бұрын
Perhaps. Idk, I sold mine because my kids didn't ride them and I did. Party poopers...
@charlesburk8636
@charlesburk8636 2 жыл бұрын
How about just taking the throttle stop screw out instead of bending or cutting it? 🤔
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 2 жыл бұрын
The newer ones are welded into place, like on this bike...
@Memefan-km5vd
@Memefan-km5vd 2 жыл бұрын
Can this damage the engine?
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 2 жыл бұрын
In short, yes it's possible. On the other bikes when I remover the throttle stop, it only let them rev so high and then the internal governor still kicked in to keep them from revving too high. However, on this one (not realizing it initially), twisting the throttle back all the way (hard) after removal/bypass allowed this particular bike to overcome the internal governor and it was revving pretty high.
@joshuarudolph7392
@joshuarudolph7392 3 жыл бұрын
So simply just bend screw back and all is good?
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, as long as you bend it back far enough.
@shootinnscootin5545
@shootinnscootin5545 3 жыл бұрын
So is this safe? I can't find a straight answer anywhere. Some say it's safe to remove the throttle stop and some say it isn't and can cause engine damage.
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
It's safe to remove the throttle stop because you still retain the governor, which won't allow the engine to rev too high. It's when you remove or bypass the *governor* that you could cause engine damage.
@shootinnscootin5545
@shootinnscootin5545 3 жыл бұрын
@@BuckeyeBallistics Awesome! Thank you very much! I'm installing a new carb and air filter and new exhaust. Should be pretty fast after that.
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
You're welcome. Have you already ordered or found those parts? I am having difficultues finding much performance parts for the 100. I can get all kinds of stuff for my 200's, but haven't seen much for the 100. I would be interested in knowing what you have found and where for the little 100.
@shootinnscootin5545
@shootinnscootin5545 3 жыл бұрын
I ordered parts for the 200 on Amazon and Gopowersports.com and OMBWAREHOUSE.com but like you I haven't found much for the 100. I think OMB has parts for them.
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
Been to those sites and more. From what I have seen, I'm just going to have to buy a universal filter and carb setup because the exhaust pipe is the only thing I have found that is actually labeled for fitting the 100. Or just cave and Pradator 212 swap it already. But I like the little engine it comes with and wanted to mess around with it first...
@Lokomart
@Lokomart 3 жыл бұрын
Can you not just back the screw out?
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
On the older ones you can, but on the newer ones they are welded into place.
@justinhumphrey9260
@justinhumphrey9260 8 ай бұрын
Cant you just back out the screw that stops the throttle instead of bending the bracket that holds the screw?
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 8 ай бұрын
Yes if it's not tack welded into place like mine was...
@justinhumphrey9260
@justinhumphrey9260 8 ай бұрын
@@BuckeyeBallistics got yah thanks for the reply!👌
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 8 ай бұрын
@@justinhumphrey9260 👍
@justinhumphrey9260
@justinhumphrey9260 8 ай бұрын
​@@BuckeyeBallisticsseen what you said today the screw was tacked so cut the blade off and works well now.is there anyway to adjust the carb on these bikes? Like air/fuel or idle?
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 8 ай бұрын
Not if it's a newer one, they have "epa" carbs that are locked up so people can't tinker with them. I think you can change the needle but you have to drill the old one out or some crap like that. Most people just buy a new carb. I don't do much minibike stuff- I would recommend you check out the channels "black66" and "fatbuddycat" as they were the best minibike channels I found when I was into it.
@jaydenkeloid3398
@jaydenkeloid3398 3 жыл бұрын
Iam 15 and 5’8 Siam I able to ride this
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
Weight? As I mentioned in the video, the weight limit for this bike is 150lbs, but it struggles in the grass with even my 130lb rider on it. Unless you are going to ride it on flat paved surfaces only, then I would really recommend getting the larger ones, of which I have two different models. You can see the others on my channel, easily accessed on the minibike playlist. The bigger ones are only about $100 more...
@mikesbarn1858
@mikesbarn1858 3 жыл бұрын
My ct200uex does 64.
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
I would like to see that!
@howiewestra9382
@howiewestra9382 3 жыл бұрын
Meof Myof tell me how! I just got one last week! Only goes 19 but tweaked to 25 and have a torque converter coming this week I know that will obviously helped a lot too but just wondering if you did torque converter possibly and different sprocket? Has okay torque stock in with the torque converter from what I gather up KZbin I can get high 40s and have plenty of torque also!
@averybordner9532
@averybordner9532 3 жыл бұрын
How fast do you go on this
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
Showed in the video bub, watch without skipping.
@averybordner9532
@averybordner9532 3 жыл бұрын
@@BuckeyeBallistics I saw it now. But another question I’m like 6ft 3. You think I’d even fit on there?
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
No, probably not. But the bigger ones, which I have videos of on the channel as well, are only another $100.
@sweires_4951
@sweires_4951 3 жыл бұрын
@@averybordner9532 I’m 6’4 and have one, love it
@nolinbronson4645
@nolinbronson4645 Жыл бұрын
Mine goes 42mph
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics Жыл бұрын
I removed the throttle stop/governor and got it up to 35, but I weigh 220lbs. With somebody lighter it wouod do 40...
@CruelJoell
@CruelJoell 3 жыл бұрын
Does this make it faster?
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
If you didn't skip through the video then you would know the answer to that...
@micahuhhhh
@micahuhhhh 3 жыл бұрын
@@CruelJoell u talking to me jit?
@CruelJoell
@CruelJoell 3 жыл бұрын
@@micahuhhhh doesn’t matter
@CruelJoell
@CruelJoell 3 жыл бұрын
@@micahuhhhh yes u gonna do sum
@micahuhhhh
@micahuhhhh 3 жыл бұрын
@@CruelJoell what am i supposed to do fight u
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