Coleman CT200U-EX short pipe versus long pipe comparison

Coleman CT200U-EX exhaust pipe comparison / long versus short
Exhaust pipe comparison on the Coleman CT200U-EX minibike .
Ran the Coleman minibike from zero to thirty and top speed with both a long pipe and a short pipe to compare the difference in performance of each pipe.
Coleman CT200U - EX Playlist • Coleman CT200U EX mini...
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Parts used -
long pipe -www.gopowersports.com/header-...
Short pipe - www.ebay.com/itm/273555452026...
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[@jerrydobbins7296]

love these videos man binged watch them all morning and convinced me to spend a little more on my mini bike, will be well worth keep it up man💯

[@Black66]

Thank you! Thanks for watching. I hope the videos help you. I'll try and keep the videos going .

[@GratefulEd907]

I’m waiting on parts now for one bike and parts in the eBay cart for another

[@albertpeterson7134]

I Enjoy Your Comparison Videos. And Keep The Videos Coming

[@Black66]

Thanks! I have a lot more coming

[@trystanlawncare8745]

I love your videos man! I have a 212 predator and a torque converter in my coleman ct200u-ex, all stock and man that thing is a blast!

[@user-ko8lx8zx1l]

how fast is it

[@Spooky_thrills]

Your content stay the same it's cool keep it up

[@teshuvahemmet3036]

Thanks for the info

[@andrewkuhtz]

Sweet test! Hilarious when that pipe fell off😄😄😄

[@Chavelospike1]

Good ideal thanks

[@AreEff1987]

Great content 👍🏿

[@Black66]

Thank you!

[@jeffturner9747]

Love your channel it's very interesting I would love to see what the coleman bike would do with 18 pound valve springs vs stock 16lb. Regards keep it up!

[@DogMan077]

I have a 1 inch pipe right now and she gets up and goes immediately.

[@sandmanbub]

@Whoop!!

[@BradFFA]

I ordered the staged header u recommended!

[@Black66]

That staged pipe is a good one!

[@aaronescobar9271]

Nice modified Would you modified the same bike for a fan?

[@richardgraham6548]

Did you relocate the headlight it seems higher

[@Athedude560]

I have a predator 212 hemi with a long pipe and stock carb and Jet will it hurt anything

[@hello.n.goodnight]

I installed a long pipe on my stock bt200x. Now it just overheats and dies out in about 5 to ten minutes. Could be im a noob and hardly service it other than the oil changes, spark plug cleaning, and bold tightenings. Maybe a carb cleaning is in order?

[@BradFFA]

Man your the expert I’m having a issue with my chain popping off new chain new master link but my cc100x pred swap doesn’t have a chain guard it has the ball thing or tensioner whatever it is. My question is will a chain guard help keep my chain on?? I don’t want to go down the road and the chain pop off and lock up.

[@Black66]

No the guard won’t help it stay on . Is it tensioned properly and is it in alignment?

[@JMD333]

Make sure your sprockets are lined up in a perfect straight line, also check for any bends in the sprockets, missing or worn teeth.

[@Shane.Snowhill]

Great video as always! One question. On you’re ct200u (red) have you done anything inside the engine like any billet parts? I’m upgrading mine soon but I don’t feel like installing all the billet parts, if I’m not full speed all the time i should be ok right?

[@Black66]

Thanks! No, I haven't installed any billet parts in the 196cc. It seems pretty durable so far.

[@Shane.Snowhill]

@@Black66 what parts do you have on it right now, and you hit 40 on it correct?

[@Black66]

@@Shane.Snowhill Check out the last video in this playlist kzbin.info/www/bejne/kHevhJWkpK1ob8k

[@Shane.Snowhill]

@@Black66 alright thanks, the parts you listed in the beginning is all the parts you have installed correct?

[@Black66]

@@Shane.Snowhill Ya, that's it so far on that bike

[@koljag5]

Great test. Do you know fo any staged headers that fit the ct200 u-ex?

[@Black66]

Thanks! I haven't seen one. Though about making one...

[@markhagge8646]

Have you tried running a reverse cone megaphone (sp?) on your straight pipes? There is some exhaust pulse tuning benefit to those. I don't know if you could buy one or if you would have to fabricate one. I have seen plans on the web to build from flat sheet steel. Cut, roll, & weld. (I know you weld) I used to run one on my Honda SL100 back in junior high. (1971-72) Mine had no baffle - just straight tuned megaphone. It was loud, but that little bike was pretty fast with it on.

[@Black66]

I know what your talking about. I used to have one on my car back in the day. I have did test on the exhaust Trumpet.

[@jeffrykopis5468]

In the car world, they always say longer intake runners improve torque, as do longer exhaust header tubes. Shorter ones improve top end hp. But does that apply on a 1 cylinder, 8 hp engine? Beats me!

[@Black66]

I have videos coming on this topic

[@mlindsay527]

Can you do aluminum vs cast iron (but not a tilly) flywheel comparison in the 0-30? My bike sure felt snappier with the lighter flywheel.

[@Black66]

Ya, got ya covered. You guys must read my mind

[@iamtheoffenderofall]

Speeds are about the same. I did GoPowerSports billet flywheel, billet connecting rod, "cruiser" cam, 22mm Mikuni carb long exhaust pipe with a 30 series torque converter. Stock gearing, 43mph. Punchy off the line. I am 200lbs to give you an idea of weight to the bike. I have the same CT200U EX bike as shown in the video. 196cc engine.

[@NubsWithGuns]

@@iamtheoffenderofall"ARC billet flywheel, billet connecting rod" Fixed that for you.

[@thomastaylor6511]

just for kicks try that test without the muffler

[@jessiebaker4539]

What did you use for a gas tank inside the compartment? I like that. My gas tank rattles so loud

[@Black66]

Check out the CT200U-EX playlist. The gas tank video is in the playlist. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jmG2nnSQf5ukjZo

[@GluteusMax777]

I installed the straight exhaust pipe, added 18# valve springs and zip tied the governor spring. I get up to about 39 mph now but when i let off the throttle it starts popping out of the exhaust! You think i need to lean out the jet? Maybe go down to a . 039 jet?

[@Deucealive75]

The popping has nothing to do with the main jet. When you close the throttle at high RPM it's not getting enough fuel and a lean condition is created.

[@dalemiller6535]

Where did you buy your long header pipe from ? Do you have a link for it where you purchase it from?

[@Black66]

I put the link in the description

[@professionalnoob2688]

I would like to get the short one but my bike is completely stock everything, I haven't even done the throttle screw mod. Do I have to do any adjustments first or can I just switch out the original muffler for this one?

[@Black66]

Yes you can.

[@josephhasbrouck4795]

Question I zip tied my gov spring and I’m putting in 18 lb springs will I still have to worry about floating the valves? Or the governor exploding inside the engine?

[@Black66]

No, i wouldn't worry about it. It should be fine. Anything can come apart but These engines are more durable than a lot of people think. I have ran this engine for getting close to a year now without even opening the case . We have did all kinds of external mods to it . Check out the playlist on this bike .

[@josephhasbrouck4795]

@@Black66 ya I’ve watched a few of you videos very informative I appreciate it. Like I said valve springs are on the way along with a new carb. Thanks for responding

[@BradFFA]

I have the cc100x with 212 pred I’m thinking of getting another mini what do you think is the ultimate cruiser

[@Black66]

That is a hard question. I'm not sure about the ultimate cruiser. I guess it depends if you're talking big or small bike. I can tell you the smoothest riding mini I have ever ridden is the MB200

[@diegoavila4379]

@@Black66 yes the mb200 at mid range feels very smooth

[@bradcarpenter2396]

On the ct 200u ex ,,, 45mph what kind of drive train did you have on it? That was with the long pipe. I have the 196cc.. please advise.

[@Black66]

Check out the CT200U-EX playlist. kzbin.info/www/bejne/jmG2nnSQf5ukjZo

[@GeorgiaRidgerunner]

Hey man i know im late But ive got a question But first a little substance for my question Ive lived my entire life so far in houston county ga. (42 years) never done much travelling but want to see the nevada desert Planning a mini bike desert road trip So my question is would i do better to mod the engines for performance The exhaust im thinking maybe stock because It seems to be the quietest any info/ input you have would be greatly appreciated and considered

[@Black66]

A stock engine would work for cruising the desert . Adding a billet flywheel and rod will add another level of safety and support performance mods. . While your in there might as well add a 265 cam with some valve springs to add some performance.

[@GeorgiaRidgerunner]

@@Black66 i will certainly look into the performance mods my main concern though is the muffler My fiance and i are gonna be putting quite a few miles on these things and were mainly concerned with the noise levels Check my channel out ive got diy and gun videos

[@pioneerdroneoperations]

Whats the name of the gps app?

[@jessiebaker4539]

44mph? Has torque converter upgraded? Or factory jockey clutch?

[@Black66]

Check out this 63 MPH CT200U-EX video kzbin.info/www/bejne/i6GZhaOAntSje9E

[@RULIMAN92]

Are you still using the same jackshaft ir came with it or a torque converter?

[@Black66]

This bike has had many engines and combos. Check out the CT200U-EX playlist kzbin.info/www/bejne/jmG2nnSQf5ukjZo

[@NubsWithGuns]

Did it seem to have more torque on one more than the other? Hard to tell for sure on the butt dyno I imagine.

[@Black66]

At this point its hard to remember. There are around 26 videos on the CT200U-EX playlist but in a majority of the exhaust videos that I have done the longer exhaust seems to work out better than the short .

[@NubsWithGuns]

@@Black66 It's alright thanks for the reply. I do want a longer header anyway, gets a little warm on the left leg if I sit for too long with the bike running.

[@Blue-rh2mb]

Where did u get the muffeler for the short exhaust?

[@Black66]

Studz Racing

[@keithbrown7088]

What type of oil do u use on your mild build s on cc100x

[@Black66]

I use synthetic 10w-30 for this stuff. Not to brand-specific. No failures yet...

[@DavidMartinez-uz2vf]

What App are you using for the MPH

[@Black66]

I use DIGhud on my phone , the camera GPS for the speedometer and a Dragy performance meter for zero to thirty. That way I get the speeds pretty accurate .

[@migs610]

What’s the highest rpm the stock rod can handle on the Coleman 200?

[@NubsWithGuns]

Not high enough to do what you are planning. Those questions always lead somewhere dark.

[@Backroadmuscle]

I want the longtube header but the link no longer works do u have another link ?

[@Black66]

You can find it on the GoPowerSports web site . Coleman CT200U-EX exhaust

[@markthompsoncpa]

What is plastic tube sticking out for?

[@Black66]

That is a vent tube for the gas tank. I installed a gas tank in the cargo compartment. Here is the video link kzbin.info/www/bejne/oGi4kGN9nKx_pMk

[@chevyboy37]

Why didn't you have the tachometer in the corner for the long pipe testing as you did for the short pipe. It's almost like it was a biased opinion to which pipe YOU like better.

[@Black66]

The channel is about testing this stuff. I have no bias on how things turn out. Just trying to figure out what works best on any given combo. Sometimes there is a glitch in the GPS software where it won't read correctly. Check out the playlist for more combos kzbin.info/www/bejne/jmG2nnSQf5ukjZo

[@Mutz1E629]

The long pipe isn’t up anymore do u possibly have another site to buy one I’d really appreciate it so much

[@NubsWithGuns]

It's there and was never gone.

[@wet_p1geon]

where did you buy the long pipe from?

[@Black66]

The link is in the description for the pipe

[@wet_p1geon]

@@Black66 ok thanks

[@ryanilano2869]

Hey I put the long pipe on my ct200ex and now I don't have acceleration and idea why?

[@Black66]

Need to re- jet for the pipe

[@ryanilano2869]

@@Black66 can you re jet if you have the stock carb and air filter

[@Black66]

@@ryanilano2869 Yes but usually you need an easy out to get the main jet out of a Coleman carb. They are EPA carbs. Also I would add a high flow air filter to go along with the re-jet and header pipe. Short answer, yes you can re-jet a stock carb.

[@ryanilano2869]

@@Black66 thanks I ordered an aftermarket carb and intake as well just hasn't came in yet

[@keithbrown7088]

And y

[@gabrielburgos179]

So wich do u reccomend long or short?

[@Black66]

I like the long one .

[@bigpoppachino3437]

Can you build my 200u-ex to go faster ?

[@Black66]

What do you want done to it?

[@bigpoppachino3437]

@@Black66 governor remover in to adjust my throttle cable! i have the stage 2 kiton it still not fast enough only 27 mph Max!!

[@Black66]

@@bigpoppachino3437 It should be faster than 27 mph

[@bigpoppachino3437]

@@Black66 i just dont know enough about them like you do definitely need assistance

[@donkeyhole2782]

Is this with centrifugal clutch or torque converter?

[@Black66]

It’ has a jack shaft in this video

[@donkeyhole2782]

@@Black66 : Oh, I see it now on your other video where you changed the rear sprocket. It has a centrifugal clutch driving a jackshaft. Your videos are fun to watch. Thanks!

[@Black66]

@@donkeyhole2782 The jack shaft has a centrifugal clutch .

[@Black66]

@@donkeyhole2782 Thanks !

[@jay_the_sasquatch4207]

Long songs better and looks better

[@Black66]

Check out the CT200U-EX playlist. kzbin.info/www/bejne/oHnJaqyAosaNgqM

[@kevinjohnson9372]

That thing sounds stout is it a jang dong

[@Spacecruizer203]

five point fiy fiy lol

[@johnk6346]

I will never understand why