Coleman mini bike performance parts for RB200/BT200x torque converter stage 1 and governor removal

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3 жыл бұрын

Coleman mini bike performance parts for RB200/BT200x torque converter stage 1 and governor removal (also coleman RT200). These performance mods work on many mini bikes and the coleman bt200x as well as ct200u is mentioned for the torque converter engine riser from omb used. Great mods to double your speed!
Performance Parts used:
Torque converter
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Air filter and adapter
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Header exhaust pipe for coleman mini bikes
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The primary mini bike is the Coleman RB200 which is the same as the RT200 but the omb riser kit also works on the BT200X as well do all other mods shown in this video for a performance build and top speed. This Coleman mini bike performance kit will in total double your speed on your mini bike with the selected parts and shows tools needed as wel to complete these mods for any larger coleman mini bike. YES! This is the same kit for any stock hisun and lifan engine or for an engine swap or upgrade. This is torque converter versus clutch with jackshaft. Note that the torque remains, but the top speed increases greatly just with the torque converter addition. Giving it the mini bike stage 1 performance kit takes it over the top!
Out of the box, the Coleman RB200 top speed is 21 MPH which I will show in some mini bike riding video. This is the same for the counterpart - Coleman RT200 top speed is 21 MPH
I also show this method will also work for a predator engine swap with stock, stage 1 kit, stage 2 or stage 3 performance parts on the RB200 or the BT200X and CT200u-EX mini bikes!

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@ilkoderez601
@ilkoderez601 Жыл бұрын
I still reference this video after "all" these years. And seriously, hear me out here: Out of all the channels that do small engines, your video has more detail and is constructed better. It's these types of videos that got channels like Red Beard's Garage and "Cars and Cameras" (those goofballs!) started! So, it might even be worth making an EVEN BETTER version of this with more detail but not overwhelming for a new hobbyist. I'm just say'in, it's these videos that got those channels started and your version of the governor delete is way better....
@sidewayzmike
@sidewayzmike 3 жыл бұрын
Fantastic video. Smashed the like n subscribed. I never lost interest or focus during the entire 20 min video. Some KZbinrs dance around the video descriptions way too much, but you are to the point!
@gregsteele9002
@gregsteele9002 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks! I got the camo model (RT200) last summer right when they came out, $599 + tax shipped free to my local Walmart. But that was 3 weeks after getting a Coleman ct200ex from Tractor Supply for $699. So I promptly cleaned up the 200ex and returned it; nice & broken in, to Tractor supply before the 30 days return date was over. But I changed the oil Immediately after buying it, then once again after an hour of riding (to break it in) but this time used Supertech full synthetic. Thats when I cut off the throttle stop screw cuz they're welded on. So, at least it was properly broke in & did 25 mph for the new owners lol.
@carlo1132
@carlo1132 3 жыл бұрын
So you liked the RT200 much more than the CT200ex, I was tempted to get a bt200 or ct200 to go with rt200.
@IntelligentElephant
@IntelligentElephant 2 жыл бұрын
I agree with this comment. I own two. I'm planning on buying then torque converters soon
@slimey831
@slimey831 2 жыл бұрын
Best detailed video on small mods
@The7WorldsGaming
@The7WorldsGaming 3 жыл бұрын
Love the RB200 videos, you should do more if possible. Also I would of enjoyed if you went a bit more into detail for the jet change and all of that info. 👍🏼
@dankibler4780
@dankibler4780 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I just got mine today and while it has some QC issues right out of the crate its a blast to ride.
@asianassassin5082
@asianassassin5082 3 жыл бұрын
Most professional breakdown compared to smashing gears
@OppRoach
@OppRoach 3 жыл бұрын
I love your vids anything from you humor to the information
@megoingfast
@megoingfast 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks!
@TruthDispensary
@TruthDispensary 6 ай бұрын
You deserve a T V Show. No BS. Keep doing what yiu do. You're good.
@spenttimesaving6327
@spenttimesaving6327 3 жыл бұрын
Nicely done, Anticipate more friend
@radpaul2574
@radpaul2574 8 ай бұрын
Super video! Got the b200 at tractor trailer on sale now for 599
@jtbassgambler2594
@jtbassgambler2594 2 жыл бұрын
Love the RT/RB 200
@asianassassin5082
@asianassassin5082 3 жыл бұрын
Kids gonna have fun 9 an 11 might have to wait a couple more yrs be the full upgrade. Thanks
@dankibler4780
@dankibler4780 3 жыл бұрын
Seems like your the only guy on all of KZbins who has an RB200 and is doing mods with it. I just purchased one which will be here in a few days. I live in the mountains and hills of North east Pennsylvania and would like to add a torque converter eventually but it seems like it’s going to take a bit more work compared to some other bikes. Is there a better sprocket combination that you would recommend for low end torque and power to rip up hills? Would a stage 1 type set up do much of anything without adding a CVT or removing the governor? I would definitely like to see some more vids with this series of mini bike.
@hangingwitthabrowns
@hangingwitthabrowns 2 жыл бұрын
I did everything in this video an I love my mini bike now
@Tampaboys
@Tampaboys 3 жыл бұрын
This was a awesome video bud your channel is so awesome I really look up to how you make your videos bud I want to go get one of the new Coleman’s I love how they look like mega max bikes
@megoingfast
@megoingfast 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks bud!
@Tampaboys
@Tampaboys 3 жыл бұрын
@@megoingfast heck ya bud keep up the awesome videos you got mad skills
@schade419
@schade419 Жыл бұрын
@@megoingfast hey buddy I need help with a build can you reach out to me please
@thenexthobby
@thenexthobby 2 жыл бұрын
Even without raising the engine, it's worth ditching the stock air cleaner on the RB200 because of how close it already is. I can't imagine how you'd yank it off with the engine sitting 1" higher.
@jasoncaribou9530
@jasoncaribou9530 2 жыл бұрын
Great stuff excellent video definitely recommend 👍 Jay
@michaelstarr5861
@michaelstarr5861 7 ай бұрын
So my 196cc in my RB200 blew the metal in head between the valve springs, so I put a 6hp Honda OHC from a frozen power washer. It has 8.9 ft lbs compared to the Predator 8.1 ft lb torque. I'm hoping that will be enough to max out a torque converter pulley when I install one. The good news is those OHC engines are even easier to attatch a torque converter to.
@fullerexperience3822
@fullerexperience3822 Жыл бұрын
I recently put one on my rt200. Not sure why but I don't have much for low end power. Definitely slower off the line than the jack shaft set up.
@jayfromQueenz
@jayfromQueenz 2 жыл бұрын
I was gonna go with the regular Coleman but then I seen this one and I want it csnt wait to mod it
@speedracer0495
@speedracer0495 3 жыл бұрын
Great video...could I just send u my bike so u can mod it 😅😅
@pleasesubscribe1487
@pleasesubscribe1487 3 жыл бұрын
Fr tho I live in stl😂😝😋😉
@Theprodigy101
@Theprodigy101 Жыл бұрын
Onggg
@coincollectingfun
@coincollectingfun 3 жыл бұрын
That was epic! Crushed the like and subscribe buttons!
@toddfulmino4230
@toddfulmino4230 2 ай бұрын
Great explanation, thanks. Every video I have watched regarding the removal of the governor, they state you must replace the internals (rod/flywheel) as well. Yet, you state with the torque converter you can remove the governor and still be good. Can you explain this? Thanks!
@S1N1STERONE
@S1N1STERONE Жыл бұрын
Love your channel man, great video!! I need your help, I got the OMB Stage 2 kit with the shorty header & muffler can I use the 1”x1” square tube riser kit from go power sports or the OMB no offset riser plate? And you said the chain was 6 links too short, so would a #420 108 link chain be the right length, i believe the comes stock with a 102 link right?
@GoKartsorGoneFishin
@GoKartsorGoneFishin 3 жыл бұрын
Good show brother
@justinhethcox5730
@justinhethcox5730 3 жыл бұрын
What chain size and sprocket size I should use for the torque converter
@1viiyy
@1viiyy 2 жыл бұрын
Would a torque converter be better for wheelies or worse? Is it only for top speed?
@michaelstarr5861
@michaelstarr5861 8 ай бұрын
I put a OHC Honda 6hp motor from a broken pressure washer on my RB200. It has more torque than a stock 212 predator (8.9 compared to 8.1 pred.) I'm trying to figure out if I should get a 30 or 40 series torque converter
@bwxmoto
@bwxmoto 3 жыл бұрын
Cool vid man!
@megoingfast
@megoingfast 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks man!
@patrickdiotte6623
@patrickdiotte6623 3 жыл бұрын
What are you using to monitor speed / RPM ?
@ethancannu3858
@ethancannu3858 Жыл бұрын
Would you recommend the the RB200 or Bt200x as I’m looking to get my first one
@americandad4864
@americandad4864 Жыл бұрын
My torque converter belt is hitting the torque converter cover while in use. Any advice on how to correct this?
@levimccoy1243
@levimccoy1243 2 жыл бұрын
Do you have a link for the chain you used? I have all of the other items and need the chain.
@carlo1132
@carlo1132 3 жыл бұрын
Guess I am a bigger guy at 220lbs 6'5", I got the throttle stop screw back all the way out, moved the governor spring over to the furthest hole on the arm, getting to about 26-27mph. The governor is no longer kicking in, guess I need to do stage 1 and see where I am before pulling trigger on cvt.
@JocTTV
@JocTTV 3 жыл бұрын
Would be doing 60 with a duromax 16 horsepower has so much torque it is crazy could keep up with most dirt bikes.
@carlosraf200
@carlosraf200 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, I just order one of these and getting everything ready. Where can I buy the carb 38 jets any recommendations for the chain? I love that you included amazon links
@lucashemry5107
@lucashemry5107 2 жыл бұрын
Did you end up finding the Jet? Can't find it myself.
@gebcosby7825
@gebcosby7825 Жыл бұрын
On my rt 200 my engine is welded to the bike or is it not? but if it is do I still need the riser for the torque converter? Thx
@nickneider3428
@nickneider3428 3 жыл бұрын
What do you think about installing the torque converter without lifting the engine by cutting a small piece of the torque converter plate off?
@megoingfast
@megoingfast 3 жыл бұрын
Great question! Driven pulley would hit the frame, unfortunately.
@mrmccartney9763
@mrmccartney9763 2 жыл бұрын
Hey great video. Where can you buy a torque converter for this bike?
@thenexthobby
@thenexthobby 2 жыл бұрын
I cut my square tubing more like the setup gopowersports sells, where they're used across fronts/backs mounting holes and not left-right mounting holes. I used the tubing's existing hole and opened up another in each case. It was pretty easy to align the chain without having to drill into the bike's engine mounting plate. Chain alignment looks good and does not rub against the torque converter housing. The torque converter runs at idle. Wish I new why! Can't start the bike on the ground. On a lift I lowered idle speed a bit but it didn't help. When the front clutch cover is installed it's wobbly, so I temporarily tried it without that cover and was able to start the bike without idle causing the rear tire to spin. That is ... until I gave it throttle, and the outside of the belt immediately began to shred. Against what, I have no idea. The pulleys naturally have good alignment because they're bolted to a common plate. And no, I did NOT put the belt on incorrectly. At idle, it once again spins the rear tire. I really wish I knew WTF was going on with this janky setup.
@thenexthobby
@thenexthobby 2 жыл бұрын
So the janky setup was my janky setup. I installed the outer pulley sheave of the drive clutch backwards. Why, I have no idea but it might be related to me reading the included directions, which do not show this. Technical writing is an actual profession, and "Calm Max" didn't employ such a person.
@IntelligentElephant
@IntelligentElephant 2 жыл бұрын
Good to know
@spazelim6958
@spazelim6958 2 жыл бұрын
Can you send me the link to the silencer/muffler you put on the header
@BuckeyeBallistics
@BuckeyeBallistics 3 жыл бұрын
Great video my man, everything covered in 1 simple episode. I just bought a ct100u, ct200u-ex, and bt200x-o that I'm about to start uploading with and modifying. Can you do a video on "tuning" the tq converter with lighter weights as one commenter mentioned? I was thinking the same thing the whole time, that it would go faster if you could somehow change the ratio so it would rev a little higher with the tq converter on there. Also, take off the helmet! We like to see our host; or at least mix it up with halloween masks or something lol.
@TheVintageEngineer
@TheVintageEngineer 3 жыл бұрын
Probably still a long way from hitting the Governor even with the stage 1.
@vqnplaya
@vqnplaya 2 жыл бұрын
How much hp it give you?
@adamgonzalez2045
@adamgonzalez2045 6 ай бұрын
Will your exhaust fit. 200r?
@jonathanjimenez9656
@jonathanjimenez9656 3 жыл бұрын
Where would I be able to purchase that size 38 jet
@Rossman2003
@Rossman2003 2 жыл бұрын
You would do better by lighting the clutch shoes to increase your torque by increasing rpm before engaging. Simple to remove a little at a time. Or just get the juggernaut from Go Power Sports
@BlakesBuilds
@BlakesBuilds 3 жыл бұрын
Also did you add both jets? Make sure you change out that black jet with the upgraded one too, you'll get higher rpms
@megoingfast
@megoingfast 3 жыл бұрын
Great question! Surprisingly my low speed and idle were just fine without the swap. Others may experience different results and this is a great consideration!
@gregsteele9002
@gregsteele9002 3 жыл бұрын
Oh yeah I forgot to mention Ebay sells round 49cc stickers to go on the round engine cover. That makes them street legal with no motorcycle liscence in some States. :-) (But dont forget to remove the RB200 stickers!)
@warrenchoy2115
@warrenchoy2115 3 жыл бұрын
If you had to pick one, would you go rb200 or bt200x? Pros and cons of each?
@megoingfast
@megoingfast 3 жыл бұрын
So I actually have a video that goes over this in more detail (the before you buy the RB200 video), but to summarize I'd go with the BT even though when others come over to ride EVERYONE wants to ride the RB200 style mini bikes and they are more comfortable for longer rides. The BT is more versatile and I studded the tires and use it for ice fishing. With a larger rear rack it's the perfect size to put my auger and bucket and other gear in the back. Not as comfortable, but more rugged.
@daytonc6197
@daytonc6197 Жыл бұрын
Do I have to upgrade the chain?
@dillanstrickland8327
@dillanstrickland8327 3 жыл бұрын
I have a question. I have the RT200 RealTree 196cc mini bike. I just ordered the cold air intake that was in the link below. Can I put that on as is or do I need to order all the parts in order to properly put it in there?
@megoingfast
@megoingfast 3 жыл бұрын
You would need the filter, adapter with choke lever holder, and depending what fuel type you use and elevation possibly a new jet for the carburetor.
@TheBiliken
@TheBiliken 3 жыл бұрын
Lol love the videos! 43 mph and 80 miles per gallon on that hog. Does this work for the Coleman ct200u? Was thinking about doing the upgrade and I have put the front suspension on it.
@megoingfast
@megoingfast 3 жыл бұрын
Yes. The omb riser plate shown with shaft adapter is the way to go for stock engine on ct200u, ct200u-ex, and bt200x. No need to make custom risers. Or, the predator engine swap will not need a shaft adapter and is commonly done. The results are all roughly the same for speed and performance increase. The torque converter is the same as well. 👍
@ericdenis7003
@ericdenis7003 2 жыл бұрын
I’m looking to upgrade my RT200 with all these upgrades with the exception of the air filter. I go through some thick woods and it looks like the air filter sticks way out. Can I do all these upgrades (exhaust, jet, etc) while leaving the stock air cleaner and still have it run decent or will it not get enough air? Thanks in advance.
@semajyar4201
@semajyar4201 3 ай бұрын
Did it work I am in the same boat
@Motivationalmoneybag
@Motivationalmoneybag 27 күн бұрын
What’s the new chain link
@cwmaxfield2000
@cwmaxfield2000 2 жыл бұрын
Can these be transported on a good bike rack ???
@mikeyspeeds1056
@mikeyspeeds1056 3 жыл бұрын
Not sure why but i had the Mega Moto Pro ( same bike ) and nothing else touched but the throttle stop screw on the carb that limits throttle. Mine on flat paved road and I am 220lbs, it did 45mph. Gov n all was still inside the engine. I did nothing else. I also had the base model with clutch. 42mph bone stock also. Not sure what coleman did to the gearing or? But mine were awesome stock.
@megoingfast
@megoingfast 3 жыл бұрын
The Coleman is a bit different from both pro and max. I've got all three and the mega moto max had no jackshaft, the pro had a torque converter. The RB100 has the same setup as the other Coleman bikes. I've got videos on all showing differences. The mega moto is definitely an awesome bike!
@officialdtncee4215
@officialdtncee4215 Жыл бұрын
what tooth is the back sprocket
@lucashemry5107
@lucashemry5107 2 жыл бұрын
Hi! @megoingfast Great video that goes into extreme detail. Only thing I can't seem to find is the size 38 Jet. Do you have a link to where I can buy it on Amazon?
@megoingfast
@megoingfast 2 жыл бұрын
looks like it's hard to find. Might be sold out. I typically search "predator 38 jet" on amazon and find it. If nothing else, I've bought .38 jets from Childishconcepts.com before. They can drill to any size. Amazon has the 36/37 jet kits. With these combos, if you get the right emulsion tube and up the idle/pilot jet they can work fine as well.
@562jamesj
@562jamesj 2 жыл бұрын
Did you ever get it to fully go into overdrive where the front pulley belt was all the way up and the back was all the way down? If so what did you have to change and you set up I’m having the same exact problem right now
@megoingfast
@megoingfast 2 жыл бұрын
I added a green spring in the driven pulley on the torque converter. Made a video about it to show position too.
@dullah5.0
@dullah5.0 2 жыл бұрын
what’s top speed on a stage 2 kit?
@cwmaxfield2000
@cwmaxfield2000 2 жыл бұрын
Mine is black Not camp. Virtually the same bike though suppose to be upgraded. Only difference I see. It came with s better sure filter.
@Deathstride
@Deathstride 3 жыл бұрын
I have a question what kind of engine would fit in the rb200 if you wanted to swap it for something faster?
@eletrix3041
@eletrix3041 Жыл бұрын
Put a r1 engine in there
@ethanbryant8903
@ethanbryant8903 7 ай бұрын
Man what exhaust pipe is that and where can I get it! I like the route and the heat shield. I need 2 of em. Someone help a brother out.
@finegamer7918
@finegamer7918 Жыл бұрын
Where did you buy the bike and for how much
@jakeangles7738
@jakeangles7738 Жыл бұрын
How many miles dose it get on a full tank
@Deucealive75
@Deucealive75 3 жыл бұрын
Good video but you tested the final stage of the bike on pavement. All testing should be under the same conditions. The top speeds you got on dirt/gravel may be slightly higher on pavement. And it seemed like you backed off the throttle before it had a chance to reach top speed on the dirt/gravel. If your belt didn't shift all the way that's a good thing.
@AdmiralCrunch01
@AdmiralCrunch01 3 жыл бұрын
Would removing the throttle stop screw flood the engine or damage the stock engine? Just concerning over every little thing I do to my bike to prevent killing the engine, I bought the rb200 and love it to death!
@megoingfast
@megoingfast 3 жыл бұрын
Not likely at all, very low probability. Throttle stop screw sets to an industry standard. Governor will kick in at higher speeds and prevent failures. Not one mini bike of the dozen I have has the throttle stop screw in.
@AdmiralCrunch01
@AdmiralCrunch01 3 жыл бұрын
@@megoingfast awesome, keep up the good videos!
@silaspeterson1503
@silaspeterson1503 3 жыл бұрын
I have the column BT 200 X stock and I was wondering if the predator 8 hp engine fits in the frame with modifications?
@megoingfast
@megoingfast 3 жыл бұрын
Yes, depending what else you do to it. Torque converter makes a difference, gas tank exhaust and air filter all do. There is enough room once the engine gets stripped down a little otherwise it's a very tight fitting frame to work with. Mods are needed to make it work.
@megoingfast
@megoingfast 3 жыл бұрын
The biggest pain point might be the foot pegs. You might need extensions.
@BruceJohnsonThor
@BruceJohnsonThor 3 жыл бұрын
Where can I get the spacer to adapt to the 5/8" shaft?
@megoingfast
@megoingfast 3 жыл бұрын
adapt from 5/8 to 3/4? I got one from ebay, another source is omb warehouse
@chrisshroyer3474
@chrisshroyer3474 3 жыл бұрын
Do the RT200 and RB200 models have the non removable EPA carb jets?
@megoingfast
@megoingfast 3 жыл бұрын
removable, yes... EPA... no idear.
@rcinful
@rcinful 2 жыл бұрын
On the risers you make, are the bottom holes in the same spots as the top holes?
@megoingfast
@megoingfast 2 жыл бұрын
Not where it's mounted. If you have a "stage 1" mini bike, though you can raise the engine up and over instead of also need to push it forward.
@blazingfiregaming
@blazingfiregaming 3 жыл бұрын
did the torqconverter hold up with the stage 1 i was considering getting the one from go power sports but if this is just as good for cheaper id get this but idk if its reliable or not
@megoingfast
@megoingfast 3 жыл бұрын
Hold up great. I have 3 of these seen in this video, 2 others of different brand.
@blazingfiregaming
@blazingfiregaming 3 жыл бұрын
@@megoingfast just ordered the rb200 excited ima have to do first ride stock make sure everything works right then stage 1 kits next then torque converter. Thanks for the video the info I got helped.
@spazelim6958
@spazelim6958 2 жыл бұрын
Hey question I bought the same header you have and I have the same mini bike same motor and I also have it lifted because I also have a torque converter but will the header fit with moving the motor forward the aftermarket header the way I have it lifted is just lifted straight up not forward original position will the header fit ?
@ethanbryant8903
@ethanbryant8903 7 ай бұрын
Where did you get the header
@otm646
@otm646 3 жыл бұрын
You're forgetting about tuning the rate at which the torque converter expands. If you install lighter weights It will let the motor achieve higher RPMs before expanding a given amount thus pushing you faster.
@megoingfast
@megoingfast 3 жыл бұрын
Great note! Awesome catch! I had a VERY brief mention of how I was going to "play with it" in the video BUT 20 minutes long for a video already... Well... hopeful understandable 😉. Tried to keep it just to how to get upgrades in place. 👍
@otm646
@otm646 3 жыл бұрын
@@megoingfast tuning the torque converter, coming from a scooter background we call it a variator, is critical. On those smaller 50cc mopeds you really need to maximize RPMs. The same techniques apply here on the larger displacement motors.
@hayden6119
@hayden6119 3 жыл бұрын
Would these mods still work on the Predator 212 Hemi?
@megoingfast
@megoingfast 3 жыл бұрын
Yup.
@Dingbobber
@Dingbobber 2 жыл бұрын
Hey I know this video was a while ago but your input would be much appreciated. I’m looking at getting the juggernaut super 30 series torque converter for my ct200ex. Some people say it adds enough torque to do wheelies. Other people say it’ll slow the bike down because it’s meant for higher revving motors. What do you think?
@Deucealive75
@Deucealive75 2 жыл бұрын
The short answer is if you're not going to build a 7000 RPM engine do not get a Juggernaut for the torque converter. You don't need it with a stock engine and Coleman gearing as you see in this video.
@Dingbobber
@Dingbobber 2 жыл бұрын
@@Deucealive75 Should I even try to replace the stock Torque Converter
@Deucealive75
@Deucealive75 2 жыл бұрын
@@Dingbobber The stock torque converter? You mean the jackshaft? IMO every Coleman 200 needs a torque converter. You don't always need a Juggernaut. I certainly don't need one.
@Dingbobber
@Dingbobber 2 жыл бұрын
@@Deucealive75 Okay, my bad I’m new to automatic bikes. Is there one you’d recommend for the stock Coleman?
@Deucealive75
@Deucealive75 2 жыл бұрын
@@Dingbobber Any 30 series torque converter like the one in this video. They are available everywhere from EBay to Amazon and all the big suppliers. How to installations are all over youtube.
@thenexthobby
@thenexthobby 2 жыл бұрын
re: torque converter installation I keep seeing the middle holes being used but why not just rotate it counter-clockwise to the next set of holes, instead of lifting the engine? I reckon it still hits something, or else everyone would just do that instead.
@megoingfast
@megoingfast 2 жыл бұрын
Jackshaft needs clearance
@heavystarch100
@heavystarch100 3 жыл бұрын
The belt would reach if you were using a 20 series torque converter.
@droppin88
@droppin88 3 жыл бұрын
Can i ask some noob questions? Do I need stage 1 before stage 2? And do i need a torque converter before even putting on those?
@megoingfast
@megoingfast 3 жыл бұрын
Yup. Nope. Nope. Stage kits are typically marketing packages from companies selling products. You can do many mods without doing it directly in line with what's being sold.
@austinweigel8624
@austinweigel8624 3 жыл бұрын
Which engine do you think is better 212 predator or the 196 coleman ?
@megoingfast
@megoingfast 3 жыл бұрын
Online resources and help is better for the predator which is an advantage over the 196 cc engines but overall they can both deliver some power!
@Deucealive75
@Deucealive75 3 жыл бұрын
The 212's get the edge in torque and HP. One thing I know is that the Hisun 196 is a better quality engine than the old Harbor Freight 196's I have opened. Never opened a 212. I don't think it's worth getting a 212 if you already have a good running 196. Unless you want ride with the 196 while the 212 is being built.
@ruderat5774
@ruderat5774 9 ай бұрын
How much does all this cost
@ethanoverton7637
@ethanoverton7637 3 жыл бұрын
I live around 7000 ft elevation. Does being in a higher elevation make significant changes with the oxygen intake And decrease speed?
@megoingfast
@megoingfast 3 жыл бұрын
So yes, and maybe. Lots of different factors at play! You can tune by running richer fuel or changing the jet!
@ethanoverton7637
@ethanoverton7637 3 жыл бұрын
@@megoingfast what elevation are you at?
@lucashemry9541
@lucashemry9541 2 жыл бұрын
Do I need the 38 jet if I don’t have the torque converter on? Thanks @me going fast
@megoingfast
@megoingfast 2 жыл бұрын
If you do the header and intake filter upgrade, yes.
@lucashemry9541
@lucashemry9541 2 жыл бұрын
@@megoingfast Ok well I did do those so is it a longer looking thing or a small Jammie? I don’t know much about carbs :l
@benedictcumberbatch4275
@benedictcumberbatch4275 3 жыл бұрын
14:13 what's the plastic gear in there for? Why not metal instead?
@megoingfast
@megoingfast 3 жыл бұрын
The governor gear? Because it's cheaper, and not meant to go above 4600 rpm. Just a cheap part, keeps cost down.
@carlo1132
@carlo1132 3 жыл бұрын
I am confused. If the RB200 is the Mega Moto Pro Frame, why can't I use the Mega Moto Pro Torque Converter and not have to do all the crap with lifting the engine with the plated steel? Bink!
@megoingfast
@megoingfast 3 жыл бұрын
Different frame. They look the same, but are different. I think I may have covered that the RB is using a jackshaft and clutch in the before you buy video, but I did not side by side my pro, max, and RB at the time. I have a side by side for the pro and the max that do close ups a little better.
@carlo1132
@carlo1132 3 жыл бұрын
@@megoingfast I'm subbed, thanks for explaining!
@fuji_airsoft2738
@fuji_airsoft2738 2 жыл бұрын
is it reliable tho?
@TheGameBest7
@TheGameBest7 3 жыл бұрын
What type of torque converter did you say it needed?
@megoingfast
@megoingfast 3 жыл бұрын
30 series, with a 41/420/40 chain sprocket, and 3/4" shaft for the RB200. For the other Coleman mini bikes would need the shaft adapter. 👍
@TheGameBest7
@TheGameBest7 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks my man 🤟
@shyancole2490
@shyancole2490 3 ай бұрын
But if you don't own a drill or even if you have a drill and don't have a set of drill bits you'd probably be better off to just buy the correct engine Riser plate a set of decent drill bits are going to be more than what it would cost for the plate but once you have the tools you can use them again if ever needed
@ianhastings8685
@ianhastings8685 3 жыл бұрын
Which would you say is better the rb or the bt
@megoingfast
@megoingfast 3 жыл бұрын
Kind of hard to explain in a small comment. LOTS of GREAT reasons to get both, depending on needs. I do put the two side by side in my RB200 "before you buy" video and cover the differences there as well. Each has pros and cons 👍
@bruceschmitz1984
@bruceschmitz1984 3 жыл бұрын
I think it’s easier to cut tc plate what do u think
@megoingfast
@megoingfast 3 жыл бұрын
Not enough room for the driven pulley.
@thenexthobby
@thenexthobby 2 жыл бұрын
RB200 owner here. Did I hear you say the original chain is about 6 links too short with the torque converter? Is there a way to use some links from the clutch chain I'd no longer be using? Also ... where's a good place to pick up the 38 jet? I plan on using the OMB riser, Stage 1 air cleaner etc. I'm not crazy about the large S-shape header however, although I get that's easiest with this style of rear fender coming right up to the rear rack. I'd much rather find a way to use a style that exits from the center instead.
@megoingfast
@megoingfast 2 жыл бұрын
Sorry for long delays - KZbin batches what I see in my comments feed... jerks... If you have a link breaker that is also able to smash the pulled pins and a link connector, its possible but I can't recommend it to most people. Yes, the chain will be too short by 6 links. The jet is actually a little low in stock on amazon, but if I don't find them there I just buy one from ChildishConcepts.com website.
@thenexthobby
@thenexthobby 2 жыл бұрын
@@megoingfast No worries! For me the original chain length was fine, because I only raised the engine 1" and did not need to move it forward. Made 2 risers from 1" square stock. I only re-adusted the chain tension via the back wheel location a little bit. I mean it was like at most one link too short otherwise, well with the realm of adjustability. I'm currently using a .020 secondary, an E140 tube and 34 jet. With stock (.016) secondary and e-tube, a 38 primary was "OK" until the engine got hot and then it ran lean, and ALWAYS ran lean at start and idle. Switching to the E140 was like magic or the midrange and upper end. Pulls like a train there. For me, the large primary helped a little on the low end -- indirectly -- but wasn't the best fix there like the idle jet and etube were. Switching to the .020 secondary allowed it to start WITHOUT choke when hot (duh) and cease stalling off-idle but might be a tad rich. Tomorrow I'll try splitting the difference with a .018 secondary. For me, all of this is why the smaller-than 38 primary jet works, and this isn't a high-revving or non-governed build anyway. I'm using a little shorty curved header and RLV Mini 91 muffler. No way to get singed while riding. My first setup went straight back, under the seat and nearly burned a hole in the seat (I'd lowered the rear fender to make room.) Bought a Monster Moto 212 seat for less than the Coleman seat and it's unsurprisingly a direct bolt-on.
@megoingfast
@megoingfast 2 жыл бұрын
@@thenexthobby I cheat and drill all my clone engine carb pilot/idle to .3mm for easy starts, especially in winter.
@megoingfast
@megoingfast 2 жыл бұрын
@@thenexthobby thanks for sharing your setup!
@ericbedard7219
@ericbedard7219 2 жыл бұрын
Does the omb warehouse riser fit on the rb200 ?
@realme-tq4cq
@realme-tq4cq 3 жыл бұрын
Do I needed the stage 1 if I remove the governor
@megoingfast
@megoingfast 3 жыл бұрын
You don't need it, just makes it a bit faster. Removing the gov with only the torque converter won't do much at all.
@realme-tq4cq
@realme-tq4cq 3 жыл бұрын
How much this all cost.
@dhhbyuzbcbxj1566
@dhhbyuzbcbxj1566 2 жыл бұрын
In the Exhaust pipe link it doesn’t have the muffler
@jessenhartman
@jessenhartman 2 жыл бұрын
Im pretty sure he mentioned the tube is 1". I'm going through everything trying to order the same parts. Kinda stuck looking for the proper jet.
@georgemillington2898
@georgemillington2898 3 жыл бұрын
how much HP does the 196 cc engine have if you know please
@megoingfast
@megoingfast 3 жыл бұрын
I have not put it in the dyno but it's rated at 5.5hp out of box. Likely makes about 6+- with throttle stop screw pulled back allowing higher rpms.
@georgemillington2898
@georgemillington2898 3 жыл бұрын
@@megoingfast i was just wondering because i just ordered the Coleman br200 196cc mini bike 'it look's ;like a nice little bike and am hoping it has some power i also orderd a tourq converter 3.4 inch hole i hope fits it
@magicbloedow2437
@magicbloedow2437 Жыл бұрын
You could get to 50mph If you run a straight chain
@TheGameBest7
@TheGameBest7 3 жыл бұрын
Man this is depressing. Pilot services said that the RB200 was near my area when it’s over 2 thousand miles away. I just want the bike I have been waiting for 19 days now ☹️
@megoingfast
@megoingfast 3 жыл бұрын
Hang in there!! I've noticed a slowing in ALL shipping recently. Lots of stores trying to keep supply up on demand. I have seen where pilot does not update their status too, hoping that's the case and it's closer!
@TheGameBest7
@TheGameBest7 3 жыл бұрын
@@megoingfast the pilot service has more 1 stars than 5 stars 😱 1 stars saying : “the service is beyond slow and took months to get here.” “My package arrived damaged and unfixable” “Package was poorly take care of do NOT use this service” All of these scare me 😨 (Pilot : *breaks bike* Me : Do. Not. TOUCH ZEE BIKE)
@shida7089
@shida7089 3 жыл бұрын
@@TheGameBest7 did the bike come in? And was it in good condition
@TheGameBest7
@TheGameBest7 3 жыл бұрын
@@shida7089 it did arrive in great condition the only difficult thing was getting the handle bars to cooperate with me, i made my own custom modifications to it witch ill be making a video about later
@masstrack4143
@masstrack4143 3 жыл бұрын
Yea they said mine is gonna be delivered June 9th, but now says June 21st. I ordered on the 2nd
@flyifri
@flyifri 3 жыл бұрын
What torque converter should I use and from where.? Do you offer a code for a discount.?
@megoingfast
@megoingfast 3 жыл бұрын
From amazon, 30 series, 420 sprocket, and I have no codes currently.
@flyifri
@flyifri 3 жыл бұрын
@@megoingfast Thank you Very Much.!
@cwmaxfield2000
@cwmaxfield2000 2 жыл бұрын
Where do I get a tire converter
@cwmaxfield2000
@cwmaxfield2000 2 жыл бұрын
Torque. Sorry.
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