The 2024 U.S. Presidential Election | Constellation, Episode 97

[@anirudhmenon4234]

Man, Jaffe's son allowed to transition at 14(!) is honestly terrifying to me.

[@J64866]

Yeah it's pretty disgusting. At least wait til the lad or lass is 18 to make such a big decision.

[@adamthiry868]

I agree. It’s child Abuse to do that. If you’re an adult and want to “transition” you’re an adult and can make an informed decision, have at it. A 14 yo can’t consent to have sex, but he can decide to change his whole gender? Ludicrous insanity

[@Alex_Logan22]

Yea just let them look like an irreversible gender monster and suffer childhood trauma instead.

[@Bungycb]

@@Alex_Logan22 they already are an irreversible gender monster lol

[@BROWNMIST44]

Jaffe is massively underestimating how much people don’t accept and no longer want to hear about transgender issues. However people feel about that is neither here nor there. The reality is that getting someone to ignore what they see in front of them is an almost impossible task and most people have been forced to play along under threat of cancellation or termination at work. Also, his point about why people don’t just explain their position on it like Colin did is ridiculous. People have been doing that for almost a decade and called every name under the sun for simply trying to say “this doesn’t make sense to me, and you’re asking me to accept it like it does”.

[@RFNY315]

His judgement is clouded. He rode on the gender insanity train with his daughter, who “became” a boy.

[@skeletankmcgraw7343]

Jaffe says that ALL the time when Colin explains stuff to him and he has no other way out aside from admitting he is wrong, and we know he will never do that... The thing with politics is that most people just want to "win"/be right more than they want to discover and strive for what is true. I am only of the political mindset I am at now because I learned to accept being wrong on some things. It is hard to do at first, but once you realize there are various understandable reasons why you were uninformed and/or misinformed on something, you start to care more about what is true.

[@hiharovic7284]

Jaffe can’t comprehend different opinions unless it’s blended down in the most non-threatening purée form and spoon fed to him, by Colin.

[@dawho123]

The problem is any questioning or disagreement is met with every "-ist" and "-ism" known to man. Then, when the questions continue, people are told to "just be nice" or "be kind." If I am going to be called derogatory terms for having respectful questions, you come across as silly to then tell me to shut up and be nice when you cannot explain your positions. It just makes me and other people ask even more questions. Cults do not allow questions, only blind trust.

[@ggthxpwnt]

@@BROWNMIST44 statistically being liberal is a feminine trait, how embarrassing to be a liberal male in 2024 🤷‍♂️

[@BlakesView]

Colin is way more educated on politics than anyone on this panel and it shows. Great show boys.

[@mullergui13]

Jaffe is the personification of why democrats lost.

[@dp2791]

Couldn't have said it better. Every "argument" he has is, "bUt WhaT aBouT whAt TRUMP diD?!". Exactly the same playbook as rambling Kamala.

[@TheKingOfSpain]

How?

[@darthsolo3]

And it seems they are on track to keep that losing mentality and make JD Vance the next president.

[@ndantona92]

@@darthsolo3 Yep. The only presidential elections they've won in 20 years was Obama, and Obama's VP.

[@dp2791]

@@TheKingOfSpain He has no logical foundation for any of his arguments, it basically boils down to, "BuT whAt AbouT thE OraNgE man??". Same thing the dems ran and lost on. People aren't buying it anymore. Only the people trapped in left wing media bubbles actually think there's a new H I T L E R.

[@dp2791]

Glad to see Jaffe is as clueless as ever, despite being one of the "educated" ones.

[@rvanzo925]

He is a Democrat, can’t expect anything different.

[@heavyartillery-qm5hu]

The fact that lefties think that they are the smart ones is baffling. Reddit turned into an echo chamber and they didn't notice before it was too late.

[@keenkolo5767]

My thoughts exactly… “more critically thinking inclined.” Uh-huh, sure, Jaffe. Sure 👍🏻

[@sam805236]

I've worked in many blue collar jobs and office jobs in the past 30ish years in the work force. By far the blue collar workers have more critical thinking skills. You don't need much critical thinking to do office work, but you do to work on a car, do plumbing, construction, many manufacturing jobs etc.

[@keenkolo5767]

@@sam805236 education =/= critical thinking. Jaffe is a critical thinker, I won’t degrade it like that. But to have such a loose grip on what constitutes that ability is frustrating. Vite blue no matter who isn’t just a saying, it’s a mantra for some people.

[@taylorpepper110]

Dear lord. The amount of 20$ donations or less from a single person was 2-1 for trump. Jaffe, way more small timers donated to trump. I don’t think Jaffe will ever get back to reality at this point

[@armyofray8096]

Jaffe has this mindset that the only way he can process someone disagreeing...is that they are desperate to feed their family... amazing

[@Paskyboo]

I didn’t vote for Trump but Jaffe this episode is a great representation of why Trump got elected. Policy aside, whether you agree or disagree with Colin or Jaffe, just really listen to the way Colin talks to Jaffe and the way Jaffe talks to Colin. It honestly could not be more self evident and it is so sad that there was not a second of self reflection or contrition(not the best word for it) from Jaffe once in three hours, crazy.

[@SnackingtonFish]

I couldn’t agree more with you.

[@KZ3fps]

I think we listened to a different show, Jaffe conceded on several things as did Colin. And Jaffe has always been Jaffe, he's going to interrupt and interject, has nothing to do with his politics.

[@knleonhart]

Hold up, Jaffe is in the minority here. Let’s not forget who incited an insurrection and who accepted the results of the election. Democrats always have to be the adults while the Republicans constantly berate and belittle.

[@dp2791]

@@KZ3fps He's conceding because the reality of the election has slapped him in the face and he has no choice. And yet, still any counterpoint he has is a whataboutism for Trump. The same bullshit that Kamala ran on is the the same mindset her ardent supporters have.

[@BattleBrotherCasten]

Surprising how many people are ignorant and voted for Harris’ insanity. So many in Michigan vote blue for example, but Dems turned it into third world country.

[@fightingddog]

Bro im sorry no way jafee just said because you went to college you can critically think better than a army SF guy or a construction builder. You are insane man.

[@smgofdvld]

I live in a left area and I do feel isolated and looked down on whenever I talk to the richer / wealthy people they just look the other way or ignore me not everyone but a big number of people it gives off the I’m better than you because I went to school vibe it’s annoying

[@fightingddog]

@ yeah it just makes no sense. I drive a golfcart for division 1 football games where i pick up thousands of college students and they are by far some of the dumbest people on the planet. Majority of them. However if i walk on a construction site ill meet 6-10 of the smartest hardworking men in the city. (With no degree)

[@Forester-]

​@@fightingddog I think people really lose sight of the fact that it's not particularly difficult to get into most colleges and that many majors are extraordinarily easy. I'm not trying to make fun of anyone but you don't have to be a genius to get a business or education bachelors at your average state school. Even then, many of the people in college who are very intelligent may be extremely ignorant or downright stupid apart from their academics. I say this as someone who went to college.

[@dp2791]

Yeah, he says this literally every political podcast he's on. He fails to realise what an elitist argument this is, and it's also not accurate either.

[@fightingddog]

@ im like man i know of 10+ army SF and cia guys on youtube who are trumpers and are the most capable problem solvers on the planet earth.

[@theycallmeGUN]

I’m 30 seconds in and Jaffe is already off the rails lmao

[@Alienshade]

Jaffe is a good guy and that is probably why he is more than a "yes" person. He is probably scared for his daughter. Because hate in politics destroys many peoples lives. I mean politicians don't even need to say something before people start's to kicking the poor and different.

[@travismcnasty51]

I haven't started yet. Is he off the rails or does he seem to have done a few rails?

[@alexplummer6397]

He was never on, where do you think the idea of twisted metal comes from lol

[@Ellen-yl2pu]

I straight up thought Jaffe was doing a face mask lmao

[@PaulAtreidesXIII]

I hate that argument about trans sports that everyone parrots. "sports aren't fair" measure twenty markers and measure their bone density to make it fair. You dont understand sports if you think this is feasible or even good for sports. Its not complicated, mens and woman's divisions.

[@linkinparkblink182ro]

Most nonissue of all time. I'm liberal as hell and love trans people but it just aint worth having this conversation right now

[@keenkolo5767]

@@linkinparkblink182ro it’s not even a conversation, it doesn’t pass the eye test. Whether you want to argue if that’s fair or not, you’re not going to get people on board if they can’t unsee what the difference is.

[@kobrakommander1645]

Agreed but also.. to be real people are blowing it way outta proportion. How many trans athletes are there in the world let alone the us. It's not like this is some epidemic were seeing around schools. It's just stuff we see online. I don't know any of our local schools​ that even have a transgender let alone a trans athlete. I agree it's probably something to discuss, but to have this as a headlining political issue is crazy. We have real issues here in the US @keenkolo5767

[@moloney55]

I have never seen boxing classes separated by bone density outside of men and women's division and they don't need to measure it....

[@eatabatterydotcom4590]

I promise you. Every single person (men especially) who are pushing trans sports were too small/fat/weak to play sports in school. So they have no reference, and more than likely a distaste for them and the people who can. So throwing out ridiculous ideas like measuring bone density of every kid from 5-18 years old in school, and private sports leagues like they're filling out a D&D chart makes perfect sense to them.

[@nicksharma8238]

People are missing the point bashing Jaffee. The fact that these two opposites can have this conversation without villifying the other...damn...thats valuable. They are demonstratating how to do it

[@cablecar830]

“Don’t look to me for any kind of logical response to anything right now” ~jaffe That’s the most accurate thing he’s said this whole podcast.

[@Equilibrium911]

Fr

[@av-ls5df]

because you disagree with his politics? or maybe english just isn't your first language

[@jec3169]

@@av-ls5df Disagreeing on politics doesn't mean there isn't a logical argument to be had. That is a chronic problem with the big centrist brain pov. Everything is everything and everything is nothing. Too scared to validate any position. I'll say it, progressivism is very wrong and Jaffe is vile for transing his daughter.

[@av-ls5df]

@@jec3169 who the hell are you to dictate what is right or wrong? the only objective thing in this world is anything that can be scientifically proven or measured. it's not about cowardice or centrism as you put it, it's about nuance. the ability to speak and debate on multiple viewpoints in order to reach an agreement. it's the basis of democracy and what america was founded on. and i'll humor you on this. what do you mean transing his daughter? i don't know his personal life, but are you insinuating he forcefully made his daughter trans?

[@cablecar830]

@@av-ls5df no, because he’s actively volunteering that as a whole he has no logical rationality for any of his stances. Even someone who didn’t learn English as their first language can understand that because it’s common sense.

[@Xairos84]

22:58 he calls the other far side "nuts" but calls himself "far progressive" but leaves out the "nuts" characteristic....😂 Jaffe is in a chamber.

[@Alex_Logan22]

He knows he’s nuts, or did you miss the blood? He’s very self aware.

[@FringedHorizon]

​@Alex_Logan22 The blood is unironic. He IS that insane.

[@sebastiansanhueza9601]

What's funny is that, back in the day, Jaffe was probably part of the misogynist-bro-entourages he criticizes so much as the "super progressive" person he claims he is. Total Sessler vibes.

[@Alex_Logan22]

@@sebastiansanhueza9601 You might be onto something but Sessler is on another stratosphere.

[@armyofray8096]

Jaffe calling trump voters uneducated... lacking critical thinking.... brilliant...tell me more about how men can become women please

[@danielstockley5631]

In plain terms, its true (as far as university education is concerned). But they also know it, and as such they come across as preachy, pompous, arrogant and just generally talk down to the general populace. A lot of social progressives use technical social science nomenclature as their everyday natural language. You'd need a short crash course in the humanities just to understand what they're talking about. Instead of recognising that and speaking in a simpler way, they demand that working class high school educated people just "do better" and catch up with their ideological b.s. This is why average people will always turn against woke wankers.

[@redhatter94]

Or his daughter becoming a man.... He has ruined his daughters life and wants people to just pretend its not happening.

[@fbbfan9476]

@@redhatter94no he hasn’t.

[@adamthiry868]

He has. Allowing a CHILD to mutilate themselves and “transition” is child abuse and should be 100 percent illegal. If you’re an adult, have at it. Do what you will. Leave minors out of it

[@fbbfan9476]

@ No child isn’t allowed to have gender reassignment surgery till their an Adult

[@djgroopz4952]

I hate to be that guy but when people are saying Democrats are educated, the majority of those degrees are in non STEM fields... I don't wanna offend y'all so I'll leave it there.

[@drewth]

See, when they talk about education it's a smokescreen for their class interests

[@OrthodoxTrent]

Agreed, "liberal arts" is not education.

[@dp2791]

Wait you mean my PHD. in Gender studies and Indigenous Dance isn't helping me think more critically??

[@djgroopz4952]

@dp2791 Yep, in fact it's helping us think LESS critically. Remember 'critical" is an integrant of colonial imperialism.

[@jasonbower7763]

Jaffe is so insufferable.

[@SulphurBorne]

Terrible

[@echos9396]

@@jasonbower7763 He doesn’t live in reality unfortunately, his version of reality is a woke dystopia.

[@theogofguitar]

Jaffe is great for game commentary and discussing GOW history and game development then but….everything else man yeeeeeeeesh

[@kl342000]

Jaffe: "There is a trans person and an extra black guy in congress, so that's a positive."

[@RBPhantomTilt]

Right?! Hahaha nothing about what they stand for, that's not the important part to the dude who has nothing to worry about 😂

[@dp2791]

Jaffe, the "deep" thinker.

[@BROWNMIST44]

@@dp2791as deep as black+trans=good lol.

[@chriskos7868]

@@kl342000 no guy working in construction could ever come up with such deep takes /s

[@Darklink1017]

Literally DEI. Jaffe is a klutz and is a mess. Their brains are just off man idk

[@ndantona92]

Jafe: “those are fringe situations that’s not how everyone feels, it’s a narrative “ Also Jafe: “I agree, Colin, but I’m talking about the extremist on the fringe” Bro

[@TheTerp97]

I definitely disagree with Jaffe that more college equals more critical thinking. Having gotten my degree, nothing in my college education gave me anything I did not get from working a career. In fact, especially with the political sciences, professors often chose to state their political opinions from the front of the class without discussion or challenge. This went away the further I got into my IT courses, but those Gen Eds were mostly a waste of money and time

[@everpassingpxpx]

💯 It's a scam

[@TheKennyboy92]

Well I would say more college educated people know what a tariff than those who do not have a college education.

[@ggthxpwnt]

⁠@@TheKennyboy92 more working class people know what gender they are over college educated ones

[@TheKennyboy92]

@@ggthxpwnt Great so you understand gender is a social construct and sex is a biological one.

[@ggthxpwnt]

@ do you understand why normal people are pointing and laughing at you right now?

[@sweettooth7625]

Man I wish I was as privileged as jaffe. All he got out this election was trans issues

[@OrthodoxTrent]

Jaffe does not understand the plight of the working class.

[@gavinhillick]

That's a lie. There was also the abortion bus at the DNC.

[@RFNY315]

It’s clouded him. He has a personal stake in it

[@GamingTBlink182-l3e]

You don’t vote for others, you vote for yourself and your family. Other issues don’t affect him.

[@downtempo9263]

@@GamingTBlink182-l3eis that your brain dead logic or are you saying that’s Jaffes brain dead logic?

[@rarodrig6]

I don't understand the left's shock that women can be conservative like as if they don't have just as much right to disagree with abortion for example.

[@Kaleb_SMILE]

Something they fail to think about is that if all women were pro choice then there would be no states with abortion bans. They vote more than men and outnumber us.

[@TheKennyboy92]

I mean voting for a man who sexually abused a woman is weird....

[@Xairos84]

Progressives and some liberals view their beliefs as the "right and proper" choice so anyone who "doesn't get it" is blinded or willfully evil.

[@SungurEge]

United States of America doesn't have a "left", what you know as "left" is literally diet Republican liberals, both are on the right and quite close to each other.

[@jovi9918]

Arguing for the government to control and police your body is objectively stupid regardless of political affiliation.

[@shaggysweetness]

It's sad, Jaffe can't accept the fact that his daughter's situation is not real, and the absolute majority of people know that, and that he failed defending her from it.

[@eliothillis535]

This is the sad, sad truth.

[@mwhite8487]

Jaffe is the reason for cancelling my Patreon sub. The more he was on, the less I wanted to listen. He manages to bring down the intelligence of any conversation by several notches because the other hosts are constantly tasked with holding his hand through a coherent thought.

[@Michael-rv5ib]

Agree. It was a large factor in me canceling. And I think he is absolutely out of place in a conversation like this. He does not live in a world based in facts. He is pure echo chamber emotion.

[@RFNY315]

@@Michael-rv5ibtrue. And the worst part is, he thinks he’s some high level thinker, and talks down to people.

[@OzempicRage]

So you want an echo chamber u child what happened to having conversations 😂😂😂

[@PsychoPenguin1919]

.

[@seventhamendmentguy6681]

@@mwhite8487 bye bitch

[@IngridMichaels-mw5ej]

I love Jaffe’s zaniness during gaming discussions but I’m not a huge fan of it when it comes to politics. It’s welcome on gaming talk because he eventually reigns it back in and shows he has expert-level knowledge on the gaming industry. Not so much on politics.

[@cnhwill1990]

Jaffe is exhausting

[@necmqcYT]

He lives on another planet. Just plain crazy.

[@rotoninja]

His face is painted red, he starts off talking about his therapy and meds..I'm sure he takes will be sound. 🙃

[@Pswayze23]

He wastes a lot of time for sure

[@soarvivalist]

If only you were more educated, you would smear blood on your face, too.😂

[@dp2791]

Every argument he makes is either mainstream media garbage, or "well what about Trump?!". Same tactic Kamala failed with.

[@TroubleshootGamingMeds]

Jaffe and people who think like him are the exact reason the left lost big. Not a shocker he interrupts the whole episode to talk to a shrink. LMAO

[@TheOff1ceFan]

The copium and blatant lies from Jaffe is astonishing.

[@no5544]

Transition before 18 should be illegal. It’s wild that we can’t vote until 18 but you can be on hormone blockers at 14.

[@RFNY315]

Exactly. It’s some psycho shit.

[@B-Diddy-6]

@@no5544 really depends on the situation. My brother is trans, and waited until 18 to start with hormones. A few of the people he knew in the community around his age didn't start early either, and they ended up ending their lives. All that to say, I think it truly is dependent on the person and the doctors. Much like some major health issues theres various ways of approaching it. There can be various ways to approach transitions. All options should be possible, though, at least from my personal experiences. Cheers!

[@no5544]

@@B-Diddy-6 so why can’t we let 14 year olds get tattoos on their faces?

[@B-Diddy-6]

@@no5544 i am simply stating some firsthand personal experiences with issues that are current right now. Just trying to have a conversation about it, and state it isn't always black and white. Stay in your echo chamber and pray no one in your life has the struggles they have, I guess!

[@loki17020]

but.... feelings... or whatever.

[@ccaprice8595]

I can't even stand to listen to jaffe

[@zebrs99]

He’s got an abrasive personality for me but he’s willing to listen so I don’t mind him too much.

[@ccaprice8595]

@zebrs99 you know, you're right. That's pretty rare, so I can respect him for that, but my stance still stands ha

[@strato8182]

I more so find Chris to be the one difficult to listen to. Jaffe at least knows that he is crazy and tries to be objective.

[@kennyc6327]

Oh what ? No Gene to tell us about a girl he dated at some point in his life. Shame

[@jovi9918]

Those are all made up and exaggerated stories

[@Bingchirringg]

Jaffee you really need help dude. No normal person acts like this.

[@8bitArtist]

there needs to be a more libertarian or conservative view besides colin on this podcast.

[@KobraKai2388]

I agree. Colin said he thought having Ray gun on would make it too unbalanced. It was already unbalanced. I think Dagan did a pretty good job overall playing moderator and staying out of it because he self confessed that he is not very politically savvy. But he still swayed it left a few times. Luckily, Colin can hold his own and then some. But I even think that he still holds back sometimes maybe to keep the peace. But Colin is a smart guy and being a first time Trump voter, I think he falls a little into the category of a lot of 2016 and 2020 Trump voters who were a little shy about stating their case for voting for him.

[@BROWNMIST44]

@@KobraKai2388he’s definitely more anti-trans than he’s letting on. I’m surprised he said what he did here. Seems like we’re getting back to reality finally by being able to have these conversations and not have someone call you a piece of shit for asking fair questions.

[@TTL9800]

100%. Episode feels completely lop-sided because of it.

[@RFNY315]

@@BROWNMIST44 not only that, but people are just saying fuck it, call me whatever, I don’t give a shit. Telling little boys that they can become little girls is some psycho shit.

[@BROWNMIST44]

@@RFNY315 agreed. Has never made any sense to me.

[@Alex-y1t7l]

My heart goes out to Jaffe. I can't imagine what it would be like to be a parent of a child that is suffering with gender dysphoria. I understand why taking an affirming stance in his perspective would offer solace to a suffering child especially when much of the culture and lots of medical professionals are backing the affirming stance as one of the highest virtue. I just can't lie to myself in believing that affirming someones sex to be the opposite of what they are is the healthiest way for them to exist going forward. To me that is fighting who you are instead of accepting it and enabling the delusion of a confused person.

[@MrMalf-zh2ki]

Nailed it.

[@fbbfan9476]

I’m pro trans but I don’t find the MtF in spots a very complicated issue

[@RFNY315]

@@Alex-y1t7l well said. The correct and honest way is to help the kid get through things and love themself for who he or she actually is. It probably isn’t too easy when they are seeing the stuff everywhere and how it’s celebrated. Then you have activist teachers, child care ppl, etc

[@Bungycb]

@@fbbfan9476so you’re pro delusion? Makes sense

[@Bungycb]

Agreed

[@Lerkero]

49:22 - "thats why theres no talk radio for the left" I disagree. NPR became talk radio for the left during Clinton's 2016 campaign and it turned me off from listening because i no longer felt that NPR was focused on critical thinking

[@FeisarX]

Jaffe… what a clown.

[@PatrickMusilek]

In an Ice Cream truck...

[@Chris75717]

Dagan was a great objective mediator for this even if he is a democrat he approached this very well from a non biased perspective with less stakes in the situation

[@maxsterbator69]

Hahaha Jaffe's TDS on full display. Gotta love it.

[@beetlebat.]

I'm kinda annoyed when people say things like "people were voting for self interest over policy and morality." When referring to voting for the opposing side. Even when trying to be "understanding" there's moral high-roading.

[@OutBreath-l4n]

Definitely and Jaffee know what he’s doing here. “I can afford to be a good person”.

[@Forester-]

People will criticize you for voting for your interests while simultaneously saying that you're voting against your own interests.

[@Alex_Logan22]

@@Forester- Yes, many were misinformed/manipulated into voting against their own interests, this isn’t something new.

[@TyranBatten]

Agreed bro

[@beetlebat.]

Thanks ​@@TyranBatten

[@painkiller66]

Ultimately, voters would have preferred 10% unemployment and low inflation, to high inflation and low unemployment. Unemployment is reversible, inflation is irreversible.

[@TheKennyboy92]

Inflation is a MUCH harder thing to reverse than unemployment. Covid let to inflation all across the globe it wans't just the US.

[@guywhosbored7]

Inflation was going to happen no matter what; and to be honest, inflation and unemployment management is directly under the guide of the Federal Reserve. They definitely dropped the ball in 2020 and 2021 by not raising rates sooner to curb inflation. Colin talks about it all the time when it comes to all the companies that massively hired in that time period when borrowing money was essentially free. The crappy part is that while this served corporate America; the average person was left out in the rain when the bill was due. Also, worth mentioning the Fed is apolitical. Powell was selected by Trump and reappointed by Biden.

[@HardcoreGamer101508]

Or everyone thinks unemployment won’t affect them and they’re voting selfishly as usual

[@jing-xt2tg]

@@guywhosbored7 The target of 2% happens no matter what, but democrats ran it up from 1.9% under Trump to over 9% with multiple, reckless spending bills, at which point the Fed had to step in. If anything, the Fed has managed it quite well by managing a "soft landing".

[@jesuisnoach]

this could not be more wrong. Inflation will always exist, its always around 2-3%, it went down from 8 to 3 in 4 years.

[@echos9396]

00:53:30 I have zero idea how Jaffe can say it’s bad to have, “past ideas of what kids can get in terms of gender affirmation” when these same kids can’t even drink, smoke, or get a tattoo legally so what gives you the right idea to change their sex forever when they haven’t fully matured sexually and mentally. Really boggles my mind that people think having this way of thinking is ok for minors that are still going through puberty.

[@DavidJaffeGames]

As the father of a trans son, I assure you: the vast majority of families are not waking up on Tuesday and going, 'Hey, Annie wants to be Mark so fuck it, let's go! It's what he wants!'...I- and other parents of trans kids- have explained this ad nauseum. At this point, your willingness to parrot the wedge issue political line become intentional ignorance. Educate yourself on the issue. It's not what you are being told.

[@MrMalf-zh2ki]

I agree. Do what you want with your body after you have reached maturity. The probability of it being just a confusion caused by puberty is too high to make life altering decisions like this when you are just a minor.

[@echos9396]

@@DavidJaffeGames I have educated myself on the issue and the issue is that parents aren’t allowing kids to be kids anymore. I have zero problems if someone wants to be trans but wait until you’re at the legal age and mentally mature enough to do so for crying out loud. If my son told me that he wants to be a dinosaur at the age of 12 I’m not going to a doctor and recommend Scale implants. Let them decide what they want to do once they’ve reached full maturity and if they want to change their sex then have at it, this is the land of the free but let kids have a normal child hood before you do a permanent change on them that they might regret later on.

[@COSMiCxpl]

Transgender minors receiving gender affirming surgery is extremely rare. Like single digits per year. Almost all trans youth socially transition and any permanent change isn't considered until they are an adult. Gender affirming care does not always mean sex changes or anything else that is irreversible.

[@linkinparkblink182ro]

@@COSMiCxpl They don't care about this. They just see visions of hundreds of thousands of kids lining up to get sex changes

[@InGameProductionz]

A CONSTELLATION NEEDS 4 STARS

[@omni_tron]

Crux.

[@asdfxcvbn746]

1 star & 2 black holes will have to do for now lol smh

[@davidramirez8767]

Orions belt begs to differ.

[@jayjayson9613]

I trust Colin in this. Give him time, he's a good business man, he knows what he is doing.

[@FLACO1942]

Yay! Colin voted for Trump.

[@JBrandonMercer123]

It's odd that the consensus here seems to be that people reluctantly voted for Trump or voted against Harris. I and most of the people I know voted for Trump proudly. He's funny. He wasn't a dictator the first time and he has great policies. Also, many women voted against abortion. I know that's a wild thought to some people, but many women don't view abortion as some sacred right. They view it as evil.

[@Alex_Logan22]

Florida was the only state to not reach 60% (still got over 50) majority vote for abortion, every other state with abortion on the ballot did despite many also voting for Trump (who’s the reason why abortion was even on the ballot to begin with).

[@scaredoclock3881]

What are his policies?

[@bigmyke2008]

@@scaredoclock3881closed border. Drill baby drill. No more wokeness. Make America great again

[@Xairos84]

Dagan is on fire! 100 percent nailed why they lost. 45:00

[@Youngblaise2]

Jaffe needs a new therapist that shit not working lmao

[@chriskos7868]

Stop listening to people who are on Xanax and Adderall. They are not the ones to tell you how society should run. Enjoying crying for 4 years, David.

[@TTKChrisking]

Proudly voted for Trump, I fail to see any legitimate reason to have voted for Kamala but respect the opinions of others and wouldn't go as low as calling them garbage

[@J64866]

💯

[@gavinhillick]

Jaffe makes me want to be an American, so I can vote for anyone but the Democrats.

[@jedifunk300]

Not all of us Dems are far left nut jobs living in an echo chamber.

[@echos9396]

@@jedifunk300 Unfortunately majority have become just that due to propaganda and lies from the liberal media. Most sane democrats like RFK JR. and Tulsi Gabbard are now Republicans for good reasons.

[@gavinhillick]

@@jedifunk300 He's not far left any more than Trump is far-right. He's a low-information, open-borders, vote-blue-no-matter-who loyalist of the neoliberal war party that's tailored exactly to the needs of his class. The Republicans have become the populist working-class party now, as emerged about a century ago, focussed on material concerns, while the Dems scramble to form a coalition of more rich people with no worries about paying the bills . We're looking at another political realignment, as happens every few decades and is also happening across Europen right now. Trump allied with RFK Jr., and Harris had the Cheneys. I don't think the left-right paradigm is very useful these days.

[@gavinhillick]

@@jedifunk300 He's not far left any more than Trump is far-right. He's a low-information, open-borders, vote-blue-no-matter-who loyalist of the neoliberal war party that's tailored exactly to the needs of his class. The Republicans have become the populist working-class party now focussed on material concerns, while the Dems scramble to form a coalition of more rich people with no worries about paying the bills . We're looking at another political realignment, as iis also happening across Europen right now. Trump allied with RFK Jr., and Harris had the Cheneys. I don't think the old left-right paradigm is very useful these days.

[@gavinhillick]

@@jedifunk300 He's not far left any more than Trump is far-right. He's a low-information, open-borders, vote-blue-no-matter-who loyalist of the neoliberal war party that's tailored exactly to the needs of his class. The Republicans have become the populist working-class party now focussed on material concerns, while the Dems scramble to form a coalition of more rich people with no worries about paying the bills . We're looking at another political realignment, like what's also happening across Europen right now. Trump allied with RFK Jr., and Harris had the Cheneys. I don't think the old left-right paradigm is very useful these days.

[@PackN_Heat_Games]

The next Last Stand podcast should be "Echo Chamber" hosted by Chris Raygun and Jaffe

[@Alex_Logan22]

Both sides parroted nonstop

[@fbbfan9476]

Aww I found an snowflake

[@wade_says]

I wish this was Gene and Chris instead of Jaffee. I just can’t bear it. The majority of Trump voters are NOT what Jaffe is describing. Sounds like he lives in a chamber. There are big issues for people like high prices, economy, foreign peace, abortion, education, stock market and free speech. You can’t tell me we would have been better off under Harris for all of these categories. People were fed up and they made it clear.

[@Alex_Logan22]

Ironically voted against your interests.

[@TaylorFrye94]

Your woefully uninformed or just completely down a biased hole if you think Trump proposed economic plan is good. Tarrifs are going to raise yoyr prices, deporting all of the illegal aliens will instantly make tge price of produce rise. Foreign peace? Like when he was president and there was a Syrian civil war? Turks killing the Kurtish people? Iran wanting war with Saudi Arabia? The outer riots in Gaza? The only "peace" your going to get is he will completely pull help from Ukraine dooming a democratic ally to occupation by a communist nation. Trump is basically a putin lackey. You literally voted against your own interests and you had no idea lol

[@AutarchKade]

Yeah I'm sure tariffs will fix the high prices lmao

[@drewth]

​@@Alex_Logan22Feel free to tell your new coworkers all about their interests after your bullshit office job goes away. Looks like we're gonna have some new openings in the agricultural sector

[@IfYouSeekCaveman]

If there can only be one host representing the left-wing position, I'd much rather have it be Chris.

[@MisterK-YT]

But Chris seems less into the politics than Jaffe and Colin

[@Hero5700]

I would prefer Gene to be on here in general as he’s the most knowledgeable on these issues.

[@echos9396]

I agree, David is too far left and doesn’t really understand why the Democrats lost the way they did, aka delusion at its finest.

[@nateg3998]

Just accept that this is purely entertainment. That's how i got used to listening to Jaffe

[@Freeformrulz]

Chris would've been the worst for this

[@ggthxpwnt]

Man I really thought the billion dollar campaign based on killing unborn babies celebrity cameo’s and good vibes was really gonna do it guys 😂

[@fbbfan9476]

Those would be cells actually. But good try kiddo

[@markymark637]

@@fbbfan9476 No, they are babies. And abortion is murder. Good try psycho

[@RFNY315]

@@fbbfan9476 well even after a few weeks you can tell that’s a baby in there. Let alone months. And I’m not even against abortion, but after a certain point, it is still killing. Also, men have just as much say as women do.

[@Bungycb]

@@fbbfan9476 you’re made up of a bunch of cells. Not really a great argument lol

[@Bungycb]

Democrats lol

[@TheSwaffles23]

Jaffe didnt like the Willy Brown joke lol

[@slowcheedah]

Yeah then responds with a non-sequitur cope about how Trump also has sex scandals. The point is Jaffe, she did it to get ahead in the political world which coincides with the point Colin was making.

[@TheKennyboy92]

@@slowcheedah No Trump was found civilly liable for sexual assault that is way more serious.

[@slowcheedah]

@@TheKennyboy92 please read my comment again and see if you can gather the point that you missed.

[@TheKennyboy92]

@@slowcheedah Oh I did. Please explain how sleeping with someone is worse than being found civilly liable for SA???

[@tb1235]

@@TheKennyboy92There was no evidence to prove it. It’s not hard to look even a little bit into the trial and E Jean Carroll to see it was completely politically motivated like all the Trump trials in NY state have been.

[@scottyd2660]

Jaffe is extremely out of touch lol

[@ollie511]

Appreciate the episode, Stelly Squad! Good shit!

[@dark_taco]

"I can't do it anymore... It's been two minutes " 😂😂😂 on god Colin

[@midgetsparkle]

I love this political content. When colin first started Last Stand, I loved his takes. Didn't always agree, but I was sad when it stopped. I would watch/pay for a weekly Colin +whomever content. Just fyi, guys. Also love Jaffe and Dagglemeister.

[@RBPhantomTilt]

The kid who is 14 in Iowa and confused can maybe wait until their brain is fully formed and make a decision that will change the rest of their life. Trans people should have relentless support. But if youre gonna tell a kid they can't get a face tattoo when they're 14 because they might regret it... but lets just ignore the ones who DO regret it.

[@lilcarlwheezer]

Jaffe suggests trump may have graped minors however if that were even remotely true it would’ve been exposed back in 2015 when he announced he was running for office in the first place. He also says trump is going to enact “project 2025” despite trump himself disowning the movement itself. Major respect of Colin on this one.

[@brownie43212]

Hyou actually believe Trump? Fucking hell....

[@fbbfan9476]

Turns out project 2025 seems to be real. Dam who would’ve guessed and believe a Cult leader….. I mean a big time liar

[@Bungycb]

@@brownie43212 you actually think men can become women?

[@justincolgan1833]

Are you even watching his cabinet picks? Project 2025 or not, we are living in a clown circus version of reality. McMahon, Brain worm RFK, Dr. Oz? Who's next? Hulk Hogan and Kid Rock.

[@fbbfan9476]

@@justincolgan1833 I’m iffy on RFK. But the others picks for his cabinet is a fucken circus

[@ScubaCoopa]

1:03:32 “I like him” - jaffe, in reference to Gavin Newsom. Says all you need to know about this guy and him being politically bankrupt. Gavin Newsom is a complete disaster and his state reflects that. I wish you the best Jaffe but I’m starting to think this is just one massive troll job because it’s getting comical with you.

[@jotu2274]

Love Jaffe, he believes and will protect his trans child because he believes he is in the right. Very admirable. Surprised Colin pushed back so hard. So far a great conversation

[@Moeron86]

Poor dagan and jaffe look so defeated. Keep your heads up!

[@Christopher-s1d1j]

In 2016 after the election Colin said on Colin & Greg live that Roe V Wade would not be overturned. So I guess we can come back to this video in 4 years and see what else he was very naively wrong on.

[@Alex_Logan22]

Exactly, and the stakes were so much higher this time than 2016.

[@fffx2]

Ruth Bader Ginsberg predicted that Roe would be overturned as bad law back in the 80s.

[@bigmyke2008]

I know. I’m giddy with anticipation 🥰

[@fbbfan9476]

@@Alex_Logan22 i agreed with Colin more on 2016 the. Current Colin. To me he’s just going be more conservative as he age and less liberal and I’m ok with that.

[@mattj2692]

The problem with Harris and policies is that the ones they did talk about weren't appealing. More taxes on the wealthy doesn't help most people. Making small business loans easier to get doesn't help most people. And a tax credit for buying a home also doesn't help most people as they don't have the money to get a home in the first place!

[@Minednam]

I got laid off last year. I’m driving for door dash and she’s talking about a tax credit on a hypothetical home I can’t afford. Amazon Factories opening up in my city have materially affected more people than taxing the rich.

[@tb1235]

Not to mention her stances in 2019 were extremely progressive and not popular. She did a bad job convincing people she’s not fake because halfway through her campaign she started blatantly stealing some of Trumps policies.

[@skeletankmcgraw7343]

Also, loans for small businesses don't help in an economy where small businesses are failing and the big mega corporations like Amazon and Walmart are getting preferential treatment. For example, during Covid all the small businesses were forced to shut down while these mega corporations got to continue operating as "essential". All that would happen with loans for small businesses is they would fail and the business owners would owe on a loan that they can't pay back.

[@kommanderkronk]

It doesn't matter how minor a blip trans men in sports is. It shouldn't happen period.

[@Forester-]

The arguement about how small an issue is is somewhat irrelevant in the social media age. You might have 10 instances of an issue every year but every time it happens it will be viral on social media and everyone will have an opinion on it.

[@kommanderkronk]

@Forester- agreed. But I think we should recognize this fact and adjust accordingly. I know we won't but I can dream.

[@desertgsrider1]

As someone that lives in Pennsylvania the canvasing and commercials were insanity! It was to the point that I didn't even remember seeing a pharmaceutical ad for weeks as it was all political ads (our Senate race was just as important as the presidential race)

[@pmac206]

I know I felt the same way. I had Democrats knocking on my door practically every day. They were so annoying and I don’t live in a big county in PA.

[@JonnyHyperbole2090]

You stole that joke from a guy on Twitter. 😔

[@Drez47]

Jaffe isn’t worth listening to when it comes to politics. Get a better sidekick already.

[@ndandan1369]

🎯 Key points for quick navigation: 03:46 *🎮 Gaming Event for Charity: Discussion of a charity event supporting veterans with gaming consoles and trips, with a focus on Last Stand Media improving their performance for the next event.* 06:21 *🎙️ Podcast Format Update: Hosts address listener feedback about podcast structure, explaining the move to smaller, more frequent episodes due to scheduling challenges.* 14:40 *🌍 Regional Trends: Commentary on the evolving political landscape, with mentions of Virginia’s closer-than-expected results and speculation on future Republican strategies.* 18:57 *💡 Election Insights: Acknowledgment of voter frustrations with economic conditions and perceived social issues, highlighting key factors in the election outcome.* 20:22 *🤔 Kamala Harris Critique: Harris is described as a "mediocre candidate" with limited distinctiveness or accomplishments, which hurt her electoral viability.* 21:42 *🚺 Gender and Race Dynamics: Debate emerges about whether Harris's gender and race influenced public perception, with comparisons to Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama.* 27:45 *🛑 Impact of Legal Challenges: Trump’s legal issues were seen as politically motivated by some, strengthening his support base.* 29:09 *🗨️ Harris’s Policy Miscommunication: Harris’s policies existed but were poorly communicated, leaving many voters unaware of her platform.* 33:14 *💸 Economic Disconnect: The Democratic narrative about economic improvement did not resonate with voters struggling with inflation and daily costs.* 39:59 *📣 Social Issue Misinformation: Trump’s exaggerated claims on social issues created fear-based motivations among some voters, fueling divisive narratives.* 40:25 *🙏 Hope for Unity: Optimism that the extreme rhetoric from vocal minorities doesn’t represent the broader Republican voter base, fostering hope for reconciliation.* 42:15 *💰 Economic Concerns Dominate: Trump’s victory is attributed to economic worries, with voters prioritizing their ability to afford basic needs over broader moral or social issues.* 43:35 *🚨 Fear of Future Policies: Concerns are raised about Trump’s potential use of military force against protesters, highlighting fears over his governance style.* 46:20 *🗳️ Union Vote Irony: Union workers benefiting from Biden’s policies failed to connect those benefits to his leadership, illustrating a gap in political communication.* 52:23 *🇺🇸 Systemic Issues: The lack of robust social safety nets and economic security leaves many voters unable to prioritize thoughtful engagement with political issues.* 56:03 *📉 Inflation Confusion: Misunderstanding of inflation metrics was exploited, with claims about "inflation dropping" misleading voters into thinking prices would return to pre-inflation levels.* 01:07:46 *⚖️ Messaging on Trans Issues: The hosts discuss the contentious framing of trans participation in sports, emphasizing the disproportionate focus on rare instances and the broader implications.* 01:22:05 *🔄 Political Messaging Pitfalls: Both parties rely heavily on emotionally charged, oversimplified messaging, leaving little room for intellectual or nuanced discourse.* 01:25:23 *🇺🇸 MAGA as Policy and Nationalism: The MAGA movement is seen less as a social movement and more as a nationalist platform focused on policy and opposition to bureaucratic control.* 01:29:16 *🏛️ Trump as a Perceived Underdog: Increased legal and institutional actions against Trump have painted him as an underdog, bolstering his appeal to supporters.* 01:30:52 *⚖️ Overreach in Prosecutions: Overzealous legal actions, such as those in New York, are seen as damaging to public trust and validating Trump’s narrative of being unfairly targeted.* 01:33:11 *🛑 The Risk of "Whatever It Takes": Pursuing Trump at any cost has weakened legitimate cases against him, overshadowing real concerns with overreach and bias.* 01:40:18 *🔥 January 6 Aftermath: Concerns persist about Trump's inaction during January 6 and his behavior, which some see as indicative of potential systemic risks.* 01:42:22 *🔄 Lame Duck Dynamics: Trump’s unique lame-duck status could lead to bold, unconstrained actions, as he has no future elections to consider.* 01:43:34 *📈 Tariffs as a Negotiation Tool: Tariffs are viewed as a strategic tool for negotiation rather than a trigger for trade wars.* 01:44:45 *🔄 Prepared Leadership: Trump’s potential second term is expected to be more focused, with fewer establishment figures influencing the administration.* 01:45:12 *🛑 Top Alleged Lies: Claims about Trump include misleading narratives like "good people on both sides," Russia collusion, and exaggerated legal cases.* 01:47:33 *🎭 Media Bias: Trump supporters argue that media misrepresents statements, citing examples like the reaction to Liz Cheney remarks.* 01:48:02 *🥇 Historic Comeback: Trump’s political resurgence is considered one of the most significant in American history, overcoming major political dynasties.* 01:53:36 *💡 War Provocation Debate: Discussion highlights differing views on whether Western actions provoked the Ukraine war.* 01:57:22 *⚖️ Judicial Power: Concerns about a long-lasting conservative Supreme Court majority influencing U.S. policy for decades.* 02:00:49 *📊 Young Voter Surge: Economic struggles and high costs drove many young voters, especially men, to support Trump.* 02:03:47 *💻 CHIPS Act Success: Repatriating silicon manufacturing to the U.S. through the CHIPS Act reduces reliance on Taiwan and strengthens economic independence.* 02:06:42 *👎 Moral Compromises: Many voters prioritize economic survival over moral concerns, despite negative perceptions of Trump’s character.* 02:07:55 *🛠️ Democratic Rebuilding: Calls for Democrats to regroup and potentially collaborate across party lines for more balanced governance.* 02:09:20 *📊 Shift in Focus: Class and economic issues are overtaking traditional identity politics as central voter concerns.* 02:12:35 *🍽️ Economic Trade-Offs: Advocates argue for higher costs of goods in exchange for revitalizing American manufacturing and full employment.* 02:21:13 *🛂 Enforcing Immigration Laws: Calls for stricter immigration enforcement align with global norms, but with compassion for those fleeing dire conditions.* 02:29:06 *🛠️ Republican Governance Critique: Argues that when in power, Republicans fail to deliver on promises to prioritize average Americans, focusing instead on benefiting the wealthy.* 02:30:30 *🔄 Potential for Change: Calls to let new Republican leadership prove their ability to address key issues like foreign policy, immigration, and economic concerns.* 02:32:46 *🎙️ Influence of Alternative Media: Recognizes the significant impact of figures like Joe Rogan and Elon Musk in shaping political discourse and influencing elections.* 02:35:57 *🌱 Populist Shifts in GOP: Notes the growing influence of populist and environmentally conscious ideas within the Republican Party.* 02:38:28 *🩺 Healthcare Reform Skepticism: Doubts Trump will effectively replace the Affordable Care Act or tackle health insurance challenges, despite broad support for the ACA.* 02:42:26 *🤔 Historical Vice Presidential Gaps: Discusses past instances of U.S. presidents serving without a vice president, highlighting historical ambiguities in succession rules.* 02:46:09 *🌍 AI Compared to Environmental Policies: Draws parallels between AI and global environmental challenges, emphasizing difficulties in achieving international cooperation.* 02:47:45 *🛸 Upcoming UFO Hearing: Mentions an impending UFO/UAP hearing, sparking curiosity about potential disclosures and government transparency.* 02:52:19 *🎨 AI's Impact on Creative Work: Highlights AI’s ability to create high-quality artwork and narratives, raising concerns about its effect on creative industries and the need for fair compensation.* 03:00:41 *🌐 Shift to Alternative Platforms: Increasing migration to alternative social media platforms like BlueSky as a response to toxicity on mainstream platforms.* 03:01:21 *📚 Turning to Books Over Social Media: Advocates for replacing social media time with reading as a healthier mental habit.* 03:03:40 *💬 Call for Responsible Presidential Rhetoric: Criticism of Trump’s inflammatory rhetoric, highlighting its impact on societal fear and division.* 03:05:02 *😂 Trump’s Humor as a Political Tool: Observes Trump’s use of humor and self-awareness in his actions, making him relatable to many despite his divisive nature.* 03:07:22 *🎙️ Preference for Three-Person Podcast Format: Discussion on how a three-person format improves flow and reduces fatigue compared to longer, four-person podcasts.* 03:09:41 *😄 JD Vance Lookalike Joke: Light-hearted observation about a podcast member resembling JD Vance, adding humor to the conversation.* Made with HARPA AI

[@Alex_Logan22]

A lot of points about Trump support being bolstered despite him receiving less votes than 2020.

[@LogeyRotten]

Differing views being discussed by grown ups in a respectable manner. What has our country become?

[@rossicg35]

God bless Colin for entertaining Jaffe’s craziness. I’m genuinely glad they are friends but can’t take anything that dude says seriously. We voted for Trump because the left went so batshit crazy with trans issues, immigration, inflation, and the botching of Afghanistan and Ukraine all while being told everything is great and awesome by a dementia patient.

[@Alex_Logan22]

Thanks Fox

[@Badalight]

What do you not like about Ukraine?

[@brownie43212]

Because FOX news and his r/conservative friends told him about their bioweapons😂​@@Badalight

[@mattj2692]

aw really was hoping for gene and or chris on this one!

[@creese16]

People talking about 2024 as if it was the “most important election in our lifetime” when in reality it was actually 2016

[@NileSings]

100% everything else has just been a continuation.

[@Chicanochars]

Was just telling my wife this, it all started when the democrats denied Bernie and later on tulsi gabbard. Don't be surprised if Shapiro is an independent next term

[@rustyshackleford3401]

Should’ve been Bernie…

[@14_IQ.points]

Jaffe: "Your rhetoric is scaring people and hurting people" (In reference to trump), meanwhile the left has been saying that democracy is on the line for the entire cycle. This goes both ways and both parties are terrible when it comes to this.

[@necmqcYT]

Exactly. It's the boy who called wolf. How many Hilters have there been?

[@dolurosu]

Concerning the talk of facism, one can see that a direct response to Trump's own behaviour. IMO he brought it on himself. His general rhetoric has been divisive and violent since before he was first elected.

[@14_IQ.points]

@dolurosu A direct response but not a proportionate response. What Americans deem to be fascism is laughable.

[@Alex_Logan22]

He was though, people just care about their cost of living more, even if tariffs and deportation makes it worse.

[@AutarchKade]

I hope we get more political episodes so we can watch Colin justify how Trump picking people like Dr. Oz to run Medicare is smarter than what the other side would have done. It's hard to take anyone seriously when they call themselves an analyst but then weigh these two options and pick Trump.

[@nexuszen769]

The other side (ie establishment dems and republicans) have run up the score so that more money than ever is being spent on healthcare, and people are sicker than ever. I don't know that Mehmet Oz is the best choice, but something has to change.

[@fbbfan9476]

Ya Colin at this point just doesn’t give a fuck really what Trump dose or says

[@Bungycb]

@@AutarchKade what makes him unqualified? Studied biology at Harvard and graduated magna cum laude in 1982. - In 1986 received his M.D. from the University of Pennsylvania School of Medicine. - That same year received his MBA from the Wharton School. - A well-respected cardiothoracic surgeon. - Went on to be vice-chairman and professor of surgery at Columbia University College of Physicians and Surgeons. - Led the heart institute at New York Presbyterian Medical Center with research interests include heart replacement surgery, minimally invasive surgery, alternative medicine and health care policy. - Has received numerous patents, including creation of the famed Mitraclip to repair heart valves without surgery. - Has authored over 400 original publications, book chapters, and medical books, and led The Good Life Magazine with Hearst for a decade. - Was a featured health expert on "The Oprah Winfrey Show" for six seasons. - Hosted "The Dr. Oz Show" for 13 years and won Nine Daytime Emmy® Awards. There's more, need I go on?

[@Bungycb]

@@AutarchKade you think it’s smarter to vote for the party that thinks men can become women?

[@Bungycb]

What makes him unqualified? Studied biology at Harvard and graduated magna cum laude in 1982. - In 1986 received his M.D. from the University of Pennsylvania School of Medicine. - That same year received his MBA from the Wharton School. - A well-respected cardiothoracic surgeon. - Went on to be vice-chairman and professor of surgery at Columbia University College of Physicians and Surgeons.

[@BobBobberon]

Chris is hyper liberal he would’ve been just as unhinged as Jaffe I lament he turned this one down 😂😂😂

[@OutBreath-l4n]

No way he was actually busy. Felt like he was laying low last episode on politics.

[@fffx2]

Chris' pundit career fell off hard

[@TaylorFrye94]

@BobBobberon the fact that just being liberal like chris makes you "unhinged" and yet voting a felon into office is not. Is exactly why this country is a meme now lol

[@Minder13ADTR]

I disagree with Jaffe on a lot of things and he’s still one of my favorite people to listen to

[@jasonbower7763]

He sucks.

[@Chris75717]

People have such a hard time listening to someone they disagree with

[@keenkolo5767]

It’s interesting to hear how a mind so different from your own can work.

[@616Entertainment]

I’ve never aligned with Colin politically, that’s fine, we don’t all have to agree on everything, but I feel like literally everything he’s said about Kamala (I’m 25 minutes in) applies to Trump, yet he’s not applying any of it in his direction. Massive, massive double standards early on in this episode, I’m kinda surprised by how heavy handed it is. I also disagree strongly that MAGA is going to become more powerful without Trump. I think without his character/gimmick, a ton of interest is going to evaporate. We’ll see, I guess.

[@Cevans1992]

You’re wrong, he stated numerous times Trump was a weak candidate it just underscores how truly pathetic Kamala was as a candidate

[@616Entertainment]

@@Cevans1992 He did say that, but I disagree, so I wasn't factoring that specific point into what I'm saying. I think Trump, based on his gimmick and apparent magnetism, is extremely strong for them. I don't see how anyone can argue that, unless they really think people are voting for policy and stance, which I don't think is all that true. I think many (not all) come out for Trump because he's loud, he's rude, and he's saying publicly what they say in private, and they enjoy that. When that goes away, I would wager a large group of people are going to feel like no one is talking to/for them again. Just my feelings on the subject. I'm not saying anyone is wrong or that anyone should agree with me. Just sharing my input as a listener and as an American.

[@Cevans1992]

@@616EntertainmentI respect your opinion and your right to it obviously. I wouldn’t agree with all of what you said either and that’s ok. I just wanted to point out that Colin isn’t using any double standards, obviously all of our implicit personal biases will show through in our particular analysis though.

[@616Entertainment]

@@Cevans1992 To say he's not using any double standards, you lost me, hahaha. I think there are several. But it doesn't matter. All good.

[@echos9396]

@@616EntertainmentTrump actually had policies that appealed to the American people outside of murdering your own unborn child. Kamala had some policies outside of that but she barely talked about it and wasted her entire campaign on belittling Trump and talking about how she was Pro abortion. I’m sorry but that doesn’t appeal to most Americans and if you can’t see that then you’ll never understand why Trump won.

[@Assenayo]

The joy has been redistributed.

[@slowcheedah]

2:19:00 buddy if u just let them stay that encourages more ppl to risk sneaking across

[@Pizzakong633]

Wish it was Chris or Dustin instead of Jaffe for this

[@sam805236]

Colin: let's hear what Jaffe has to say. *Proceeds to go on 15 minute rant*

[@sindri.]

I think there's something to be said about people not being able to afford voting with their hearts when their wallets are hurting But, I think to assume that's a large factor of why the Democrats got trounced is missing something. I think the average American showed up to vote and they were saying no to basically everything the people in power have been pushing for the last decade. People are tired of it all, and broke on top of that.

[@johnlisa418]

This needs to be on the free feed. It is a very important conversation to show how political discourse can be sane.

[@jackgarratt5094]

Agreed! Though some of the other comments on the video don’t reflect that.

[@guywhosbored7]

It’s an episode of Constellations; it’ll be on the free feed within a couple days!

[@moloney55]

I'm just starting the episode but Jaffe's start isn't reeking of "sane"....

[@kobrakommander1645]

​@moloney55 you just have to understand people have very different opinions then your own. His opinions are very different than mine, but he's still my neighbor (figuratively) and I'll still respect his opinions. He generalizes a lot, but so do a lot of people about all sorts of topics. Sticks and stones will break your bones but words will never hurt you as the saying goes

[@seredays3434]

Jaffe is just clueless.

[@victororozco6903]

Sometimes we need 4 people or maybe 5 for some constellation topics.

[@TheKennyboy92]

Where is Colin's critique of Trump who spent massively during his term when the economy was going good. There was a huge increase in inflation ALL across the world due to the knock on effect of Covid. This is not a US issue it is a global one.

[@rd_2113]

Yeah and everywhere the government that was in power during the rise of the Covid inflation got removed.

[@jdvplays1871]

Hello Constellation folks! Though I know many people are down on Jaffe, I greatly appreciate his perspective and the nuance he brings to the discussion. That said, I have to say in my home state of NJ, many people I know voted for Trump on social issues. Respectfully, many Christians showed up to vote and though neither candidate is ideal and both are flawed, one was really leaning towards a clear side-and it was the one who had told Christians they weren’t at the right rally. Much love and peace, love your shows.

[@Kneefill]

ONLY 3 FOR THE ELECTION EPISODE👹 that’s some devious work my friends

[@kadabur]

Host appearance costs i imagine

[@cablecar830]

It’s because no one wanted to suffer through Jaffe’s ignorance

[@OutBreath-l4n]

Everything Jaffe says comes down to what an educated and morale person he is. Thanks for letting us know.

[@chriskos7868]

@@OutBreath-l4n I hope that’s sarcasm 😂

[@ScubaCoopa]

The irony is never lost on me that people like Jaffe who are super duper smarterer than everybody supposedly can’t even realize they are half the reason Trump won. People are tired of being lectured and belittled by people with holier than thou attitudes.

[@MrMalf-zh2ki]

Colin was absolutley on fire this episode. Calm and collective with great logical thinking and great arguments.

[@jovi9918]

He absolutely wasn't, most of what he said was just unsubstantiated bullshit. Without someone more informed like gene on, the discussion just becomes Colin's excuse to ego dump his shitty political opinions for 3 hours

[@Enidx10]

@@jovi9918Colin was cooking. He made delusional Jaffe look even more delusional.

[@liammcnulty1987]

@@jovi9918 cope.

[@cam86191]

Trump 2024 Vance 2028 let’s go

[@kaiyoutrinon7218]

Don't be like this, jeez. This cult like, sports like shit. No one is saying you can't be happy, but you don't have to shit on other people to be happy.

[@The_Halfway_Channel]

@@kaiyoutrinon7218 Trump 2024 Vance 2028 let’s go

[@Fartical]

⁠@@kaiyoutrinon7218Trump 2024 Vance 2028 let’s go

[@barbecuegamer2738]

Why all of a sudden is 4 people considered bad? Why all of a sudden do you feel the show needs to get shorter? So you’re saying all your previous episodes that ran long with 4 people were bad quality? For over 90 episodes since the start Constellation has always had 4 people and became a successful show. I truly believe the show is superior with 4 people. But I’m happy to see Colin back on! This wasn’t a bad episode. But I feel it would have been better with Chris on too.

[@victororozco6903]

22:10 Jaffe already mad 😂

[@Lerkero]

1:29:30 - i disagree with colin here. I doubt trump knows that much more about government in his 2nd term than he did in his first term. Trump just represents people wanting to buck the establishment. Trump will surround himself with lackeys that are unlikely to make a better government

[@TheNightMammoth]

I think Jaffe and Dagan are vastly underrating how much the mainstream representatives and officials of the Democratic Party actually believe the fringe stuff like open borders and transgender sports participation, or are willing to be captured because of pressure from NGOs and liberal donors. I'm sure this is the same on the opposite side, but when Jaffe talks about how the sports thing is massively inflated issue and not common in the average person's lives, I think he is hugely underestimating how much the left push these policies and make public pronouncements about them. The advert that was so effective used Kamala Harris' own words from her presidential run in 2019. Everyone from her, to Joe Biden and the executive, to the party leadership like Nancy Pelosi, to prominent state side figures like Gavin Newsom, Gretchin Whitmer and Josh Shapiro, are universally on board with the most far left policies on this issue, and on others like immigration. And people see this, and they believe them, and even though there might not be controversy at their own kid's school yet, they see the spread and they are nervous about it. I actually firmly support a national consensus on this which balances the rights of trans people and the rights of women and girls, but it's likely that the Democrats will continue to lose on this issue if Republican messaging is clear and targeted if they remain all the way out on the fringe and refuse to come in.

[@mc_squared]

It was great to see a hearty discussion with disagreements between friends. I’m always so open to conversation. So many are not, which is part of the wider issue. Agree or disagree, just talk about things. Learn to bite your tongue slightly and let people say what they have to. And remember not everyone is good at articulating thought into words. Most people don’t hate. They are just illiterate 😂

[@Moeron86]

Great conversation! I was waiting for jaffe to burst into tears at a couple points though he seemed so upset

[@kadabur]

America has spoken, glad tf thats over with and the freaking Calls/texts arrivadeci

[@RBPhantomTilt]

Dunno why but in my head I heard Brad Pitt in Inglorious Basterds say "A-reeva-der-chay"

[@kadabur]

@ 🤣🤣

[@sea435]

Good conversation. I’m more moderate than Jaffe, but in no way would I have voted for Trump. From the way Colin speaks about Kamala - it feels like he views her similarly to how I view Vance. And I share Jaffe’s belief that Trump is very old, and (frankly) has lost more than a step. If something were to happen to him, Vance would be next in line. Which was something I wasn’t keen on. That coupled with Trump’s “weave” and obvious ethical issues were why I couldn’t go that way. Hopefully, next time around there’s better candidates from both parties. Cause as CM pointed out, these were weak candidates.