Collecting a Star during the Demo Idea

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UncommentatedPannen

UncommentatedPannen

7 жыл бұрын

I explore the idea of collecting a star during the demo. If you wait for long enough during the start menu, then a demo will play. This demo essentially takes place within File 1, and so if the demo-Mario collects a star, then the game will register that star as having been collected in File 1. Using spawning displacement (on the Japanese version of the game), it's possible to desync Mario's movements, causing him to move during the demo in unintended ways. So if we could use spawning displacement to have demo-Mario collect a star that would otherwise require A presses, we could effectively save A presses off of that star.
The most viable candidate for this method is JRB, specifically for the pillar star. Tyler Kehne, Plush, and I had hacked Mario into the cannon during many different frames of the JRB demo to see what would happen. We didn't test every single frame, but rather every frame that would lead to a cannon shot soon after the cannon was ready. Unfortunately, none of these tests resulted in Mario collecting the star. However, one test did get much closer than any other test we did, and so that's the one I show at the end of the video.
Note: None of the information in this video is new. We've known for quite some time that collecting a star during the demo would count for File 1. Tyler Kehne, Plush, and I had investigated and tested this idea (focusing on the JRB pillar star) more than a year ago, and at that time we came to the disappointing conclusion reached in this video. I just hadn't gotten around to formally documenting it until now.
For more information on spawning displacement, watch this video: • Spawning Displacement
Additional Notes
(1) The demo takes place in File 1, not the last file that was played (which some might hypothesize). So if you were playing File 2, exited out, and then the demo started, it would still take place within File 1.

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@TheAnthonyC4
@TheAnthonyC4 7 жыл бұрын
My heart broke when Mario jumped off the platform
@Davidvama21
@Davidvama21 7 жыл бұрын
Mario hates us.
@whocareslol222222
@whocareslol222222 7 жыл бұрын
that troll "ha ha" as he lands in the water matches up so well like he did it on purpose
@theglitchguy9574
@theglitchguy9574 7 жыл бұрын
In the arm's of the Angels.....
@toaomc4746
@toaomc4746 7 жыл бұрын
why... you were so close... :(
@tearlach47
@tearlach47 7 жыл бұрын
And he laughs at it, too.
@Waffles_Syrup
@Waffles_Syrup 7 жыл бұрын
That ending, hurts so bad :'(
@SkicoNow
@SkicoNow 7 жыл бұрын
i cri evritiem
@SkicoNow
@SkicoNow 7 жыл бұрын
Hello, darkness, my old friend...
@TriOdy
@TriOdy 7 жыл бұрын
you tried so hard and got so far in the end it doesn't even matter
@ShadowNinja452
@ShadowNinja452 7 жыл бұрын
When you try your best, but you don't succeed.
@dedpxl
@dedpxl 7 жыл бұрын
I knew it wasn't going to work from the title, it says idea only.
@EmaAlvarado_iku
@EmaAlvarado_iku 7 жыл бұрын
Demo Mario you're not helping the team
@Lugmillord
@Lugmillord 7 жыл бұрын
No jamboree for him.
@thewildjamie3283
@thewildjamie3283 7 жыл бұрын
+Lugmillord I never thought I'd find you here, Lugmillord! I love your hacks!
@Lugmillord
@Lugmillord 7 жыл бұрын
The Wild Jamie Thanks. ...and people say this to me all the time xD I write many comments and people always seem to be surprised to find me anywhere.
@Stevieicool
@Stevieicool 7 жыл бұрын
Cute icon! Which anime character is that if I may ask?
@thewildjamie3283
@thewildjamie3283 7 жыл бұрын
+Lugmillord When I was younger, I was obsessed with SM74. I wanted it on my D.S.I. XD
@ElodieHiras
@ElodieHiras 7 жыл бұрын
Parallel universes, cloning, breaking the speed of light, all accomplished in the name of... Trying to avoid jumping in a platform game.
@pk_water6050
@pk_water6050 7 жыл бұрын
A pressing is D pressing for this pancake!
@justdanceparadisearchive3888
@justdanceparadisearchive3888 6 жыл бұрын
PK_Water lol good one
@AkaiAzul
@AkaiAzul 6 жыл бұрын
Never have I ever wanted to upvote a comment, only to see it have a funny upvote number.
@ARandomSpace
@ARandomSpace 2 жыл бұрын
@@AkaiAzul Now it’s 999. I rounded up to 1K.
@DyllonStejGaming
@DyllonStejGaming 7 жыл бұрын
"That's it, Mario, get to the star!" "Get to the star." "The STAR." "THE STAR." (Mario teleports away) "...So that's how you want to play it."
@DyllonStejGaming
@DyllonStejGaming 7 жыл бұрын
I was referring to the Spongebob Episode "Gary Takes a Bath" where Gary actually teleports out of the tub. It was late at night when I was typing it, and got a part of the quote messed up.
@SkicoNow
@SkicoNow 7 жыл бұрын
I always loved that part when I was little.
@AlexR-ATG
@AlexR-ATG 7 жыл бұрын
Now Mario, we can do this the hard way or the easy way. Or the medium way. Or the semi-medium-easy-hard way. Or the sort of hard with a touch of awkward difficult challenging way.
@corbincox9925
@corbincox9925 7 жыл бұрын
Or the demisemihemidemisemi hard way...
@MADMac
@MADMac 7 жыл бұрын
Or the sortofhardwithatouchofawkwardeasydifficultchallenging way.
@GigaBoots
@GigaBoots 7 жыл бұрын
That hurt to watch at the end.
@DragonDePlatino
@DragonDePlatino 7 жыл бұрын
Mario saying "HA-HA!" is just rubbing salt in the wound. :/
@Orange_Swirl
@Orange_Swirl 7 жыл бұрын
Don't you mean rubbing *salt water* in the wound? *Peter Griffin Laugh*
@Exarian
@Exarian 6 жыл бұрын
he jumped three times then went to drown himself. it's fucking taunting us
@arevalo8117
@arevalo8117 6 жыл бұрын
Hi guys
@PuddleOfCats
@PuddleOfCats 7 жыл бұрын
what? demo mario cant hold forward for 25 hours? weak
@MrGOOMBAGUY
@MrGOOMBAGUY 7 жыл бұрын
25 hours? More like 416 years.
@Dionicio3
@Dionicio3 7 жыл бұрын
Demo Mario also can't bake a cake for 25 years
@benjaminwilliams7554
@benjaminwilliams7554 7 жыл бұрын
+MrGOOMBAGUY I see what you did there
@TheRedCap
@TheRedCap 7 жыл бұрын
strider7x reference? clever
@SuperNuclearBoss
@SuperNuclearBoss 7 жыл бұрын
THEREDCAP where is your brother thegreencap
@TetraBitGaming
@TetraBitGaming 7 жыл бұрын
7:10 is when the controller gets thrown at the TV
@IbisScarlet
@IbisScarlet 6 жыл бұрын
TetraBitGaming you watch Pannen?
@cpcraft6984
@cpcraft6984 6 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I'm surprised that you watch pannen.
@arcadegames8319
@arcadegames8319 6 жыл бұрын
TetraBitGaming sup
@thecrazyinsanity
@thecrazyinsanity 6 жыл бұрын
I was even triggered
@itsyoboibee1529
@itsyoboibee1529 5 жыл бұрын
TetraBitGaming tetra what's up
@YTSunnys
@YTSunnys 7 жыл бұрын
7:07 He's gonna get it! 7:12 Mario, you stupid
@LuigiUTMC
@LuigiUTMC 6 жыл бұрын
YTSunny I
@NickGold
@NickGold 6 жыл бұрын
Wow this comment is ok
@FrameRater
@FrameRater 6 жыл бұрын
"Ha hah!"
@bucketoftuna6651
@bucketoftuna6651 6 жыл бұрын
YTSunny funny to see ya here…
@LustigelGC
@LustigelGC 6 жыл бұрын
4 2 0 t h L i k e
@QuiteDan
@QuiteDan 7 жыл бұрын
7:05 omg omg omg. He's on the platform. He's on the platform... He's hopping towards the star! ...... *NOOOOOOO!*
@Jack_Woods
@Jack_Woods 7 жыл бұрын
"Haha :D" FUCK YOU MARIO!!!! >:V
@TheWASHINGMACHINEBOY
@TheWASHINGMACHINEBOY 5 жыл бұрын
dandeentremont luigi: WHAT THE F*CK WAS THAT?!
@DullVivid
@DullVivid 7 жыл бұрын
This is my favorite science channel.
@hayze7447
@hayze7447 4 жыл бұрын
DullVivid the Vsauce of sm64
@Ranboso
@Ranboso 4 жыл бұрын
The ending is like when you're playing a game and your 3 years old brother keeps clicking random buttons on the controller
@MDClips2464
@MDClips2464 3 жыл бұрын
3:03, my brain when I don't remember the second part of the song
@fractyon3344
@fractyon3344 7 жыл бұрын
So... is there some type of charity where we can donate money to save A-presses?
@SkicoNow
@SkicoNow 7 жыл бұрын
That would be cool. I'd donate to it
@TheLoveMario
@TheLoveMario 7 жыл бұрын
No, we can donate A presses so HE doesn't have to press A
@MyScorpion42
@MyScorpion42 7 жыл бұрын
kill the frames, save the A-presses
@batpunk.
@batpunk. 7 жыл бұрын
everyday, poor a presses die by starvation and taxes. donate to us now to save the poor a presses. #savetheapresses
@thatoneguy9582
@thatoneguy9582 7 жыл бұрын
Pedroyellow HOW ABOUT NO
@TylerKehne
@TylerKehne 7 жыл бұрын
Another thing: if you end the demo early, the input file will continue until 1 frame after the PRESS START screen reloads. You can actually use this to get the hand to appear on that screen without pressing A.
@jan050375
@jan050375 7 жыл бұрын
maybe, just maybe the hand can solve the 0 A-Button challenge!
@juglovesyou
@juglovesyou 7 жыл бұрын
if the hand comes out of the game and into the real world then presses A, does it count?
@Solibrae
@Solibrae 7 жыл бұрын
Unfortunately, I think that would count.
@UncommentatedPannen
@UncommentatedPannen 7 жыл бұрын
I would not count as an A press. A presses are measured solely based on the input file being played, i.e. the .m64 file
@Warri0rLink
@Warri0rLink 6 жыл бұрын
7:00 Demo-Mario looks like a speedrunner up until he just ditches the star. Lol!
@fionnanelson1308
@fionnanelson1308 7 жыл бұрын
if you pull this off it will be hands-down the coolest star collection strat in the game imo
@krakelakclassic
@krakelakclassic 7 жыл бұрын
5:16 "...he only holds forwards for most of the demo." Me: "Well, shit" 7:09 Me: "Oh shit he got on the platform! Now he's gonna hold forwards and jump at the-" *Mario fuckin walks to the LEFT and falls off*
@syrelian
@syrelian 7 жыл бұрын
I know right, I knew it would fail, but I expected him to run under the star, NOT FUCKING TURN LEFT
@captainobvious9201
@captainobvious9201 7 жыл бұрын
And this is when pbg needs to strike the 'can't turn left' curse
@AdaMarioFilms-jb1fy
@AdaMarioFilms-jb1fy 7 жыл бұрын
7:07 that is the most impressive thing a CPU could do!
@Jack_Woods
@Jack_Woods 7 жыл бұрын
[Glados] You are a horrible person mario....
@graymondgt1397
@graymondgt1397 7 жыл бұрын
Jumping is Jumping, you can't say its only a demo
@brianb2308
@brianb2308 5 жыл бұрын
@The Real Snowy Spawning displacement is done by dying on a moving platform of some type, so the game gets confused as to where you were when you died, making it so that, for example, in the demo mario starts displaced by a little bit. An actual use for this is TTC stage exit displacement on JP only. It saves 1 or 2 A presses, I don't remember which. UncommentatedPannen has a video on it. The reason he's hacking in the displacement in the video is to show that it isn't really feasibly possible at all to have demo mario actually collect a star and save an A press. ie, it was only for argument's sake, and there probably isn't a way to displace mario that far away from where he actually starts in the stage. This stuff is pretty complicated lol. If you're really interested in all of it, watch the more informative videos from uncommentatedpannen, like the one on HOLPs or the one on cloning.
@stEv3900
@stEv3900 4 жыл бұрын
@@brianb2308 r/wooosh
@pikaboy70
@pikaboy70 4 жыл бұрын
SteveGaming RBLX It’s 4os, if you’re gonna comment that at least do it correctly
@the_neon_08
@the_neon_08 4 жыл бұрын
It's A presses not jumps, if it were jumps then alot more thing would have been possible (like using the cannon).
@conclusivestate
@conclusivestate 3 жыл бұрын
@@stEv3900 stop the reddit bullshit, the comment has some validation for being relevant to the channel
@renewings
@renewings 3 жыл бұрын
"What makes a good Demo-Mario? If I was a bad Demo-Mario, I wouldn't be here discussing it with you now would I?"
@goldenhibid
@goldenhibid 3 жыл бұрын
*AGRESIVE GREEN PIPES SOUNDS*
@lols2713
@lols2713 3 жыл бұрын
Well demo-mario can’t sticky jump
@goldenhibid
@goldenhibid 3 жыл бұрын
@@lols2713 but he can airshot
@52flyingbicycles
@52flyingbicycles 6 жыл бұрын
Good news! The pillar star is now 0x. We don't need to collect it in the demo.
@Divly3
@Divly3 6 жыл бұрын
Celebrations!
@dylanobrien3785
@dylanobrien3785 7 жыл бұрын
It's time to drop everything Pannenkeok made a video
@isyanmkw181
@isyanmkw181 7 жыл бұрын
I'm sick and I just HAD to watch when I saw this
@YonderYoshi
@YonderYoshi 7 жыл бұрын
"EVERYONE STOP WHAT YOUR DOING! I REPEAT, EVERYONE STOP WHAT YOU ARE DOING! Pannenkeok has just made a new video!" sorry, but this is what I just thought of randomly in my head when seeing your comment, and it made me laugh so I had to comment it XD
@YonderYoshi
@YonderYoshi 7 жыл бұрын
a wonderful man with great knowledge of memes gtfo troll
@olzhas1one755
@olzhas1one755 7 жыл бұрын
John Nathaniel anything else to say other than send me somewhere?
@YonderYoshi
@YonderYoshi 7 жыл бұрын
a wonderful man with great knowledge of memes I was saying get out since you are a troll looking for attention acting all surperior. I suggest you stop your uneeded insults that are so out of place. But why am I feeding the troll anyway? bye
@yt_MLM3
@yt_MLM3 6 жыл бұрын
...crashes Paper mario
@dumdum7786
@dumdum7786 5 жыл бұрын
7:09 i can just see pannen with an evil smile right now, and the suddenly it just turns in to anger...
@hikibum
@hikibum 7 жыл бұрын
why do you hate A-presses so much?
@UncommentatedPannen
@UncommentatedPannen 7 жыл бұрын
why do golfers hate golf strokes so much
@jongyon7192p
@jongyon7192p 7 жыл бұрын
I used to play golf as a kid. This explains why I like the A button challenge so much.
@PAPASTAIN
@PAPASTAIN 7 жыл бұрын
pannen's gunning for the 55 score
@raydarable
@raydarable 7 жыл бұрын
+pannenkeok2012 Because a stroke could kill a golfer if he doesn't get immediate help.
@JayzeZeddrick
@JayzeZeddrick 7 жыл бұрын
+raydarable you have a point
@NitsuaGamer
@NitsuaGamer 7 жыл бұрын
I love this theory! Sucks that it can't achieve more than just Mario jumping off ledges.
@DerpyDosh
@DerpyDosh 7 жыл бұрын
20 years and people are still finding more shit to do. Amazing.
@protocetid
@protocetid 7 жыл бұрын
1. physically switch the controller buttons A and B 2. do your challenge runs or whatever you call them by jumping with B 3. get money and bitches
@Woogoo336
@Woogoo336 7 жыл бұрын
Physically switching the buttons would have no effect on demo Mario since the demo isn't controlling itself with the physical controller... You could do this in software but it would require a romhack.
@necrobonesgaming2424
@necrobonesgaming2424 7 жыл бұрын
Woogoo336 This comment wasn't related to demo mario, just the run in general :p
@thecaptain0003
@thecaptain0003 7 жыл бұрын
But an A press is an A press, you can't just make it B.
@superhuman33
@superhuman33 7 жыл бұрын
Did you not read the description? The B button is split into three parts...
@necrobonesgaming2424
@necrobonesgaming2424 7 жыл бұрын
QuestionablyLoudVulture Well, Questionably "Loud" Vulture...
@RaFaReAcH
@RaFaReAcH 7 жыл бұрын
Just one question, could you use demo mario to colect a star and then start the run, sparing you the intro?
@UncommentatedPannen
@UncommentatedPannen 7 жыл бұрын
Yes
@Paolo_SHN._6._7
@Paolo_SHN._6._7 20 күн бұрын
​@@UncommentatedPannenDo it then. It's been 7 frickin years
@knavesmith
@knavesmith 7 жыл бұрын
Having your hopes shattered after seeing a new pannenkoek video is the worst feeling ever.
@theSato
@theSato 7 жыл бұрын
Just imagine how he felt, having been the one putting time and effort into making it happen. :(
@funnywarnerbox300
@funnywarnerbox300 7 жыл бұрын
d e a d i n s i d e
@bucketfullabiscuits7865
@bucketfullabiscuits7865 7 жыл бұрын
Myths say that pannenkoek has nightmare every night where he travels to a parallel universe of Tick Tock Clock, where TF """""""""""""""""Henry""""""""""""""""""""" Yoshi is sitting atop the thwomp saying "How many a presses will it take you to get up here huh? SIX! HAHAHA! THAT'S THE BEST YOU CAN DO?" Just by donating 1/20 of an a press a day, you can help this dying soul. -but an a press is an a press, you can't only say it's a twentieth-
@kellamyoshikage286
@kellamyoshikage286 7 жыл бұрын
+Sato He basically says, eh, and goes along to find another possibility.
@theSato
@theSato 7 жыл бұрын
Jarod Alien Maybe, maybe not, depends :D
@PAPASTAIN
@PAPASTAIN 7 жыл бұрын
IMO, you shouldn't totally rule out the demo stars for courses which are always 0x, just because there might be a chance some of them might be faster
@UncommentatedPannen
@UncommentatedPannen 7 жыл бұрын
While that's true, the scope of this video was just to cover the A press saving possibilities
@oussama7132
@oussama7132 7 жыл бұрын
the objective is not to make the speedrun faster. it's not to press A
@craftyawesome6830
@craftyawesome6830 7 жыл бұрын
+oussama mrissa It's 1: Least a presses possible 2: do not hold a through unnecessary stars (unless conflict with 1) 3: Fast as possible (unless conflict 1/2)
@PAPASTAIN
@PAPASTAIN 7 жыл бұрын
the final TAS is a speedrun within the context of certain limitations (this one being as little a presses as possible, obviously). given how long many of these stars can take, simply requiring a setup that results in a short demo getting a star for you has potential to be faster
@weee50
@weee50 5 жыл бұрын
1. A runner must not press the A button, except in situations where it is required to progress throughout the game. 2. A runner must not hold A through stars where holding A is not required except when doing so would conflict with the First Law. 3. A runner must run the game in the shortest time possible as long as such speed does not conflict with the First or Second Law.
@mathsvlog2143
@mathsvlog2143 7 жыл бұрын
It's great to see another video from you. Even if it doesn't result in saving A presses, it's still fun to see all these random experiments being tried out.
@buttersddragon
@buttersddragon 6 жыл бұрын
i like how mario laughs after jumping off the platform with the star
@ESintu3
@ESintu3 7 жыл бұрын
That ending is such a tease :(
@FoxInferno13
@FoxInferno13 7 жыл бұрын
Dude, you are the most legit impressive person.
@f.4w
@f.4w 6 жыл бұрын
7:14 mario is proud that he broke everyones heart
@pendalink
@pendalink 7 жыл бұрын
do you think theres a way to have the game consider mario to be on a rotation platform while his position is actually PUs away, and if that were possible, would it allow for arbitrarily large spawning displacements? Just typing this in case it sparks an idea
@UncommentatedPannen
@UncommentatedPannen 7 жыл бұрын
Watch this video: kzbin.info/www/bejne/o3qvfah8qtOMb5o However, it's virtual console only, since Mario cannot update the HOLP to a PU without the camera being in that PU
@pendalink
@pendalink 7 жыл бұрын
dammit dammit
@pendalink
@pendalink 7 жыл бұрын
Think it's even slightly feasible that there could be a way to store demo inputs and reactivate them outside of the demo? What form do those inputs take, how are they part of the memory?
@UncommentatedPannen
@UncommentatedPannen 7 жыл бұрын
Ask Tyler Kehne or Peter Fedak
@computercat8694
@computercat8694 7 жыл бұрын
Is there currently a difference between VC/console or English/Japanese runs?
@Really_Tall
@Really_Tall 7 жыл бұрын
Been expecting this video for the past year or so, cool you finally made it :P
@UncommentatedPannen
@UncommentatedPannen 7 жыл бұрын
Well on my spawning displacement video, everyone kept asking what would happen if we collected a star during the demo. So I wanted to put an end to all the wondering
@AbruptAvalanche
@AbruptAvalanche Жыл бұрын
I’d love for you to revisit this concept. Setting aside the ABC, are there any stars at all that can be collected in the demo?
@Gabriel_Micah
@Gabriel_Micah 6 жыл бұрын
0:17 it bothers me much more than it should that theres no exhale
@Jojo-on7pk
@Jojo-on7pk 7 жыл бұрын
7:11 You had ONE job
@engineergaming7407
@engineergaming7407 3 жыл бұрын
and that job wasnt getting the star
@luxray8400
@luxray8400 Ай бұрын
about halfway through the video i thought, "I wonder what that A press guy would think of it" and then i saw this is one of the pannenkoek channels xd
@mathphysicsnerd
@mathphysicsnerd 7 жыл бұрын
I think it's safe to say that the N64 is the greatest console ever made
@theSato
@theSato 7 жыл бұрын
lol
@badatnames77
@badatnames77 7 жыл бұрын
lol
@loljje7509
@loljje7509 7 жыл бұрын
10x better than the ps2.
@Andrew-xl3gr
@Andrew-xl3gr 7 жыл бұрын
lol
@theSato
@theSato 7 жыл бұрын
Super9000man lol
@Lugmillord
@Lugmillord 7 жыл бұрын
Now that's a truely crazy idea. Too bad you don't have control over the demo. If you could somehow rotate the camera... :/
@harrisonfackrell
@harrisonfackrell 5 жыл бұрын
I'm really, *really* disappointed that this didn't work out. This could have been a hilarious solution.
@tearlach47
@tearlach47 7 жыл бұрын
Omg Seeing displacement in the demo for the first time looks like a desynced TAS xD
@thaias9654
@thaias9654 5 жыл бұрын
My reaction to the end: **re-reads title** "Well it did say 'Idea'"
@frankie11998
@frankie11998 2 жыл бұрын
i can't imagine how excited you must've been to see mario actually get to the platform at the end, only for him to jump off
@jacobsworkshop3335
@jacobsworkshop3335 7 жыл бұрын
This makes me feel qpu aligned.
@DrayCrouse
@DrayCrouse 6 жыл бұрын
Well the Demo sets every warp zone to the title screen. I N C L U D I N G D E A T H .
@raydarable
@raydarable 7 жыл бұрын
This is why I love this channel.
@dizzy_jump
@dizzy_jump 3 жыл бұрын
3:07 that doesn't sound right
@aGrafimir
@aGrafimir 6 жыл бұрын
"You gotta collect all stars to beat Bowser, Mario." 7:09 GET THE DAMN STAR!
@daysound9761
@daysound9761 Ай бұрын
it's been 7 years and i still want this to work so badly
@jan050375
@jan050375 7 жыл бұрын
it was still pretty impressive what demo mario did with the cannon
@ExorSMRPG
@ExorSMRPG 7 жыл бұрын
Honestly, I would love to see you either speedrun, or casually go through a 120 star route with minimal A presses. Just to show us the route, and to possibly explain why/how some tricks are done to get through the game with minimal A presses.It'd be like an information field trip through how you play Mario 64.
@LeafRazorStorm
@LeafRazorStorm 7 жыл бұрын
7:04 Mad skills... if completely unintentional. :)
@keithbellic2629
@keithbellic2629 7 жыл бұрын
Would have been an amazing trick, but alas, sometimes these things don't work. But I guess that helps makes the functional tricks shine even better!
@NicB-Creations
@NicB-Creations 5 жыл бұрын
I so fondly remember firing up my N64 on day one of it's release back in the 90's. The first level left the biggest impression on me of any game ever. It might not seem that special today but back then it was revolutionary. The analog stick, the brilliant soundtrack and effects with near perfect gameplay... I need to revisit this sometime.
@Mars-ge7oj
@Mars-ge7oj 7 жыл бұрын
What happens if you have all 120 stars for file 1 and get a star as demo-mario?
@brasilballs
@brasilballs 6 жыл бұрын
Well, nothing. Since the demo is based around File 1, the demo would think the star would already be collected.
@asasnat342
@asasnat342 6 жыл бұрын
4:48 Fireman Mario xD
@nathancaso8922
@nathancaso8922 5 жыл бұрын
Hey man, just wanted to say your videos are great. It's a sort of sanctuary when I'm going through rough times. Keep up the good work :)
@beesus1412
@beesus1412 6 жыл бұрын
aaaaand the pillar star is now 0x a presses
@thewildjamie3283
@thewildjamie3283 7 жыл бұрын
How many unique A presses are left, pannen?
@UncommentatedPannen
@UncommentatedPannen 7 жыл бұрын
docs.google.com/document/d/1ypRVVRyf4x-v8GqCSmKYnicrfKSIjao3Y1ZVl52RIyM/edit
@thewildjamie3283
@thewildjamie3283 7 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Keep up the good work!
@WoahItsWeej
@WoahItsWeej 7 жыл бұрын
All memes aside, Mr. Pannenkeok/koek,how do you feel about PUs being found in Paper Mario?
@TheLoveMario
@TheLoveMario 7 жыл бұрын
*dank memes
@WoahItsWeej
@WoahItsWeej 7 жыл бұрын
+MarioKart7z Yeah sorry I meant that
@MrCheeze
@MrCheeze 7 жыл бұрын
Those alleged PUs are actually a myth, the glitch Stryder mistook for a PU was completely unrelated. The coordinates while in a "PU" are still just as close to zero as normally.
@BrunoValads
@BrunoValads 7 жыл бұрын
I hope we'll see in the future not only this star being taken but other nice uses/glitches
@quinn7894
@quinn7894 Жыл бұрын
Since the upload of this video, an alternative to collect the pillar star 0x has been found.
@vectoor91
@vectoor91 9 ай бұрын
And now the chest star as well.
@DJ-LD
@DJ-LD Жыл бұрын
I wonder if there's a way to confuse the game and make it play a mario demo while in a different demo level than the default demo inputs.
@Lulink013
@Lulink013 7 жыл бұрын
Maybe doing a low A run at some point would give this topic more attention and potentially attract new fans who will help making it even more A-less? This is currently a very niche subject even though it's always very entertaining. It feels like this is the only channel on KZbin about the ABC run.
@AFMTAG
@AFMTAG 7 жыл бұрын
Damn, these videos are always so interesting, despite not having any use in the real world. Always fun to watch though!
@falsefortuneteller
@falsefortuneteller 7 жыл бұрын
2:57 made me really happy to read. pannenkeok always moving forward.
@kitsovereign4127
@kitsovereign4127 7 жыл бұрын
Even though the demo can't be used to save A presses, are there any stars that could be actually obtained in the demo, using no hacks and an in-game setup for the spawn displacement?
@renogazo
@renogazo 7 жыл бұрын
Is there no way to use the same platform hack to make mario land directly on the star?
@RadiativeChester
@RadiativeChester 6 жыл бұрын
the game literally displaces Mario for a single frame, so it would take one hell of a displacement to move him that far; I don't think it'd be feasible
@rubeniraheta6067
@rubeniraheta6067 7 жыл бұрын
Thank you for presenting the information clearly and completely. Excellent work, almost reads like a research paper.
@unterbawr
@unterbawr 7 жыл бұрын
I'm loving this idea! Good luck!
@dootdoodle569
@dootdoodle569 5 жыл бұрын
3:07 that music synced kind of
@mygirl2210
@mygirl2210 2 жыл бұрын
2:11 Mario. You're Going To Prison.
@mayandsapphire8810
@mayandsapphire8810 6 жыл бұрын
“D’oh.” -Mario 2017
@ProgressiveForest
@ProgressiveForest 7 жыл бұрын
one of your coolest ideas. hope to see it actually work some day
@sat71601
@sat71601 7 жыл бұрын
What is the minimum/maximum amount of distance Mario can displace using spawning displacement and what object makes Mario displace the most and what object makes Mario displace the least
@zaku28
@zaku28 7 жыл бұрын
SuperSanicTheHedgehog While I am unsure what object in game possesses the least ability for spawn displacement, I do believe the top of the pyramid in SSL that activates a spinning animation when the pillars are used gives Mario the largest amount of spawning displacement
@KratosAurionPlays
@KratosAurionPlays 7 жыл бұрын
0:21 That's odd. How come the US version has an extra thing at the start?
@crazyluigi6664
@crazyluigi6664 7 жыл бұрын
Probably to attract more attention to American audiences.
@KirbyMario12345_939
@KirbyMario12345_939 6 жыл бұрын
Also might be to do with the Japanese version being finished first, but I'm not entirely sure.
@kyazarshadala8114
@kyazarshadala8114 6 жыл бұрын
it shows the boss fight because americans enjoy violence
@pikaboy70
@pikaboy70 4 жыл бұрын
Kyazar Shadala Can confirm
@simeonellinger2064
@simeonellinger2064 Ай бұрын
The amount of crazy stuff surrounding this game is unreal. Never change obsessive but awesome people.
@snalopuff7084
@snalopuff7084 3 жыл бұрын
I really should've skipped to the end on this one. Biggest tease ever.
@rustyvent
@rustyvent 7 жыл бұрын
Very interesting idea, but too bad it's not usable.
@UncommentatedPannen
@UncommentatedPannen 7 жыл бұрын
= 99% of the ideas I test
@rustyvent
@rustyvent 7 жыл бұрын
pannenkeok2012 Unfortunately, but it's always interesting to see even the failed attempts.
@rustyvent
@rustyvent 7 жыл бұрын
Krysion I actually find the SM64 manipulation interesting (if I only understand half of it at times lol) and it's good the attention the meme brought but also got really old really quick when the majority of the things said is "lol this is a meme" "an a press is an a press lol"
@theSato
@theSato 7 жыл бұрын
Yeah, most of the people who meme pannen do it really poorly. I have seen/done some more clever, subtle memeing though.
@rustyvent
@rustyvent 7 жыл бұрын
Krysion Yeah, I came off a bit harsh and assumed too much. Sorry.
@natnew32
@natnew32 7 жыл бұрын
It wouldn't help with the ABC, but I find it conceivable that - assuming you can start with spawning displacement beneath the floor - Demo Mario gets "Wall Kicks Will Work" in Cool Cool Mountain. Is it possible?
@UncommentatedPannen
@UncommentatedPannen 7 жыл бұрын
Possibly. Would require a lot of testing to check
@natnew32
@natnew32 7 жыл бұрын
ok.
@LucasIsHereYT
@LucasIsHereYT 2 жыл бұрын
Much like Pannenkoek himself probably does, I get flashbacks every time I hear about, "Watch for Rolling Rocks."
@gm_construct_13_betaexplor38
@gm_construct_13_betaexplor38 3 жыл бұрын
3:07 that cut went perfect with the music
@4232Nis
@4232Nis 7 жыл бұрын
1:06 when your tas desyncs smh
@4got10gaming8
@4got10gaming8 3 жыл бұрын
Pannen, forget about 0 A presses for a second. Could we potentially get a 121st Star?
@RyosukeTakahashiRX7
@RyosukeTakahashiRX7 3 жыл бұрын
Given the stars get saved on file 1... no. File 1 won't be able to collect them a 2nd time I'm assuming. They'll just be the transparent stars as if you're redoing a level.
@elementallobsterx
@elementallobsterx 6 жыл бұрын
You are a genius. These videos are very important to people that want to learn slick tricks in game design and loopholes to save processing power. Keep posting.
@KirbyMario12345_939
@KirbyMario12345_939 6 жыл бұрын
elementallobster x if you mean basing code off a 20+ year old game, that's honestly not a good idea. If you mean that it lets them know how certain things work, then fair enough.
@elementallobsterx
@elementallobsterx 6 жыл бұрын
Not basing code. Basing tricks in game mechanics. Read between the lines, Paradox.
@TheWaterMiners
@TheWaterMiners 10 ай бұрын
Man, I really wish that the devs included some button pressed in the slide demo. Using the demo would be an absolutely crazy way to save an A press
@someoneweird6915
@someoneweird6915 4 жыл бұрын
Could we use this to get to different Stars in the game that are unachievable with 0x A presses?
@thewhitefalcon8539
@thewhitefalcon8539 Жыл бұрын
Watch the video and find out
@daviddos4681
@daviddos4681 7 жыл бұрын
did the HOLP affect the demo? can you teleport the Buddie bob omb in front of you and let demo Mario press A to talk to him?
@KirbyMario12345_939
@KirbyMario12345_939 6 жыл бұрын
Wrong Site you can if you clone one using a fake regular Bob-omb or cork box.
@ZeroJanitor
@ZeroJanitor 6 жыл бұрын
you still cant because bob-omb buddies are loaded from the start of the level, and you can't clone in JRB regardless
@YoutubePizzer
@YoutubePizzer 28 күн бұрын
dude this would’ve been the hypest speedrunning trick of the history of speedrunning
@JulianBliss
@JulianBliss 7 жыл бұрын
If we did find a way to get such an extreme height of a spawning displacement, it might be easier to just dive directly into the star when you enter the level.
@eagleman5138
@eagleman5138 7 жыл бұрын
If you commentate early (done here with hacks), pannenkoek will reply to you.
@brasilballs
@brasilballs 6 жыл бұрын
He answered a guy's comment.
@Seth_rs
@Seth_rs 7 жыл бұрын
i have a test tomorrow but f that i need to watch this
@gapplssb
@gapplssb 5 жыл бұрын
Same, except 2 years later
@Snappers1_
@Snappers1_ 3 жыл бұрын
I love this channel. So many undiscovered codes and hacks!
@CaylexT
@CaylexT 7 жыл бұрын
Further proof for the idea that passion for something is contagious. By the end I was incredibly interested in the method and whether or not Mario could get a star.
@UncommentatedPannen
@UncommentatedPannen 7 жыл бұрын
lol this idea has been in the "dead end" category for over a year now
@CaylexT
@CaylexT 7 жыл бұрын
Maybe xD Even so, ALL of your videos are interesting that way. They're fun to watch. "Will they be able to do it? Won't they? Are there new tricks they need to try?? Oooh, they've come up with a new method to skip that one part..." It's definitely engrossing.
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