A 55-Card PSA Modern Order With Predictions and Some Finances

[@mookiechillson]

The transparency is such a utility for anyone trying to do this themselves. A real service, Chris - great work.

[@billystaton7855]

Should do a follow-up for that Griffey die-cut card! Sweet card

[@apackperday]

Nicely done on the Makar! Big Avalanche fan here. His name would be pronounced like Mah-car, just so you have it.

[@Dog8myhomework]

PSA will sprinkle in some random 7s and 8s in a order just because so if you send all cards that are supposed to be 9s and 10s, you will be sure to get burned on some. That’s why I throw in some cards that are supposed to get 7s and 8s in an order that I want slabbed like rare 90s numbered inserts that don’t go down in value much being lower grade

[@danieljohns6084]

Grading is so much fun. I just wish the Financials were a little closer to what they were 5 years ago. Thanks for the insight into your dealing ventures

[@benjaminsmith6063]

I just received my first PSA order and was pretty satisfied. Submitted 22 cards that I thought were possible 10s . Received 8 PSA 10 , 10 PSA 9 and 4 PSA 8 . 2 of my 10s are now PSA POP 1’s . A 2013 Select Gold Prizm Mike Schmidt and a 2012 Prizm Freddie Freeman Cracked Ice .

[@collectorinvestordealer]

Nice!

[@nairbsggirb1718]

The rare Prizm baseball cards of that era are so nice, and underappreciated.

[@Bradydog-in7ut]

@@nairbsggirb1718If it’s unappreciated hang on to until people wake up. People use to think mid to late 90’s Skybox cards were cheap; boy did they have it wrong.

[@lorenanders702]

Chris, I hope you follow up on your results with pricing/selling that last Griffey card! ❤ Thanks again for all your help!👍

[@sneakerheadz_academy]

Great video. Very informative. If I were you, I’d crack the low grades and send them to SGC or BGS for content. Although, PSA has the highest resale value than these other grading companies, I’ve always hated their inconsistency grading. Same goes for pop control. A 10 should be a 10 regardless of pop count. Appreciate the content.

[@Bradydog-in7ut]

You said it all.

[@intersheett3754]

People keep saying that. As someone who has cracked a lot of SGC and BGS, I guarantee you that the inconsistency of PSA vs other grading companies is an absolute myth.

[@Bradydog-in7ut]

@@intersheett3754 Are you saying PSA is more accurate or that the three major grading companies are equally inconsistent?

[@intersheett3754]

@@Bradydog-in7ut the latter, but I would be less negative about it and say they are equally consistent. Grades that are off in the consumers eyes, I've had them too with PSA, but they are rare and not the norm as many on KZbin try to make it out to be. Mostly I find that submittors get very biased about what grades they think they should be getting.

[@andrewsflooring1]

I myself have definitely seen the changes in the grading especially recently it seems like PSA is way harder to get a 10 but it’s also worth more… Thanks for sharing your videos!!!!

[@cardmanjohn4916]

8:27 the left to right on the back of that Thomas is Horrible, but I rarely see PSA hitting so hard for that.

[@tatasandbrewskies9786]

Grading with PSA is just too expensive at $20 a card for most cards..the market is down and there erratic grading you just never know what you’re gonna get ..at $15 a card atleast it’s closer to a win win for psa and the investor/grader imo..but people keep sending in so my many things there’s really no incentive for PSA to lower there prices atleast for bulk purposes

[@richardbianco9674]

Especially now with sgc being 15 no matter how many cards.

[@scottd8624]

The difference between a 9 and 10 is a coin flip. Grading companies are merely casinos. Grading is rarely based on merit and there is absolutely no consistency.

[@Dufex_of_Life]

maybe you were thinking of the Leaf Limited Lumberjacks cards instead of the Topps Team Timber; the Lumberjacks are serial numbered and made of 100% wood, they go for high prices when graded

[@larrysclassicsports]

That Mackinnon is hard to tell be looks OC left to right, hard to tell with boarders but the center of the name is pushed to the right a little, big AVS collector and fan and I'll keep an eye out evan a an 8

[@geedubb-q1u]

It’s Cale Ma-Car. I think the nicest card out of the lot is your Ripken.

[@LBDAD54]

Chris! Resend all 6s in. Every 6 I have crossed over came out 8 or better. PSA giving a 6 for iconic cards each order! Filling Pop Reports! Have seen on multiple grading reveals over and over!

[@speach73]

I love seeing some hockey being woven into the orders. Hope to see more going forward.

[@andrewsflooring1]

We LOVE US SOME HOCKEY… GO PENS!!!

[@Bradydog-in7ut]

There is a big hockey market for cards in the major NHL cities, up in Canada and overseas. I just think Chris didn’t follow the game. I live near Boston and daw 75% of the games Orr and Esposito played in; do you think I don’t have hockey cards?

[@stevemcafee1482]

Do you use a loupe to inspect your cards? If not I suggest trying one. It will help you see imperfections not visible to the naked eye. Especially corners.

[@thomastaylor9579]

all 4 of my 89 Jordans got 9's from PSA and looked exactly like yours, i even had his all -star ,makes me wonder sometimes..

[@otisthebeef3142]

Chris, these are my favorite videos of yours. Please do more of these! Love the channel!

[@Dog8myhomework]

I like when you do a total summary of financials of the order

[@collectorinvestordealer]

Yeah I usually do that but this order was too big for it

[@darnellstrength5322]

Watching this while headed to a card show!!! Here’s to a great Saturday!

[@HarupertBeagleton-dz5gw]

Keep your eyes on the road lol

[@darnellstrength5322]

haha i should say, i was listening. audio is good enough @@HarupertBeagleton-dz5gw

[@pauliepacks]

Love the videos, great job! I agree with your one statement 8-10’s to the naked eye should not show much of a difference. Given a 8 is still mint. Though on the other hand, I don’t think a card should grade an 8 if it shows “light chipping” or “off center” etc. To me, that no longer makes it mint, but many people expect 8’s. And that’s partly PSA’s fault for how they’ve graded cards in the past. Clearly stricter now, but truly gambling with PSA, because who knows how they’re evaluating cards, as their standards have changed.

[@jakestoe]

Nice submission overall. Will you be listing that Griffey on Ebay or somewhere else..

[@tommayrant2279]

Very cool about the Griffey 9!!! Thanks for the breakdown!

[@nairbsggirb1718]

Your thoroughness and expenses vs potential returns are SO appreciated. Love the analytical approach and love of random, rare-ish cards from all sports/eras. As a Mariners and Griffey fan, I'm drooling over that 2000 Upper Deck. So cool.

[@markthompson7503]

Congrats on the 10's. One day I will send in a lot of cards I have set aside. Waiting to sell my first PSA sub to pay for that lot.

[@chadtellevik5479]

The shine on all those refractors were popping big time. Excellent share!

[@RawGradeFlip]

Love all the 90s and early 00s cards. Tough to get 10s but when you do it’s awesome. Those have been my jam recently and fun to find the diamonds in the rough.

[@intersheett3754]

The Hardaway refractor is refractor on both sides? I don't think I've seen that before... Damn

[@ASMRPeople]

I'm finding as of recently it more about a lucky submission rather than a single card. I just had a lucky 12 card submission. I got nine 10s on modern brady's. Although the brady rookie market is down I find low pop brady parallels do well because there are so many brady player set collectors. A low pop 10 does well. It's sort of like how oddball gem mint Ryan's would do a decade ago. There are a lot of ryan master set collectors out there & if you get a low pop gem mint oddball set its a big dollar card acquired for cheap.

[@donsharkey116]

I wonder if PSA keeps track of serial numbered cards that are graded? For example, If I have a PSA graded card 3/5 and I send it in raw to regrade and one of the graders checks and sees that 3/5 has already been graded PSA 7, I would assume that they would take the regrade fee and just send the card back with the same grade. Maybe I'm being too cynical.....??

[@nicholasherrald2866]

Those UD SPs were so beautiful in their time, but even as a kid, I was disgusted by the chipping frequency. They were expensive packs, and I WASN'T rich so it was super frustrating seeing the poor quality as a kid after saving up for them.

[@ObligatoryX]

Superb content as usual! I bet you're already aware of the possibility, but on the 2013 Prizm Hockey PSA 8 card I was thinking maybe it was something weird like slightly off embossing on the letters. Cheers-- Happy collecting, investing & dealing!

[@johnmcaleer9143]

Cool video. If you just sent Ohtani cards there would have been a 9 in there. Card grading can be so unpredictable sometimes

[@danielbracco9997]

A classic PSA order and grading. This exact thing happened to me. Ohtani always gets 10's. None of my older cards (80's and 90's) get 10s. I scratch my head every time I get an order back trying to figure out why certain cards are graded lower than I expect. Question Chris- Do you think SGC is too easy on grading? Is an SGC 10 really a PSA 9? seem to get better grades from SGC but value is much lower. Thanks for the reveal video!!!

[@richardbianco9674]

From what I've seen no, I fact a sgc 10 I'd rate higher. With psa, the leeway for a 10, especially the older submissions, are more like sgc 9.5s. They are also way more consistent so you know a 10 is a 10 the vast majority of the time ( human error not withstanding).

[@ADT2525]

​@richardbianco9674 so why not bypass that ( human error ) and grade with a company that gives you a ton of information on why it was graded the way it was? I know Chris has way too much money tied up in psa to try a new company with results.

[@richardbianco9674]

@ADT2525 because there are many releases of cards that an AI or computer grade would be wrong on. Take the Gretzky o pee chee rookie for example. That one could never get a 10 because of how they were cut, a human understands that and takes that into consideration. A machine really wouldn't

[@ADT2525]

@@richardbianco9674 In my opinion I think PSA would be great for pre 1990's . I think 90's up would be better served with a AI grade. I just don't think you should be able to make a 10 because of a mis-cut. A 10 is a 10 which to me means good centering ,surface etc.

[@richardbianco9674]

@ADT2525 sgc is still far more consistent for pre 90s. And I mention the Gretzky because they all were wire cut. That isn't a miscut. That was how o pee chee did it that year. While that edge can vary in how rough the edge is, it's never completely clean.

[@jordanparks99]

Great video. Appreciate all the info. Seems psa kinda just randomly grades some cards though

[@gatesmanagement]

Those hockey cards are money. I've never had an exclusive yg of anyone. That goalie is new but high speculation. Mackinnon has most accolades and grew up with sidney crosby, guarantee hof, makar new to but already has Stanley cup and his cards keep going up.

[@thomascourt4935]

I am drooling over that Barry Sanders card. He is practically the only player I collect.

[@Bradydog-in7ut]

He was a monster on the field. It was sad when he decided to give up the game. We all missed some great football but I guess his health was more important to him.

[@Bradydog-in7ut]

I have many numbered insert and parallel cards from the late 90’s and can proudly say that I’ve never sent 1 to PSA for grading.

[@jakestoe]

I'm in the same boat. I do think about sending some in sometimes though just to make it easier to sell so I can buy other cards that interest me more.

[@Bradydog-in7ut]

@@jakestoeWhere in the same boat again but I’m getting older and don’t know if I want the hassle involved in grading and selling eventhough there can be a lot more money in doing so. I’m still trying to track down 2 Gretzky rookies I put in one of my many shoeboxes of cards..

[@jakestoe]

@Bradydog-in7ut I recently turned 52. I'd like to get rid of most of my crap cards so my kids won't have to deal with them someday. Unfortunately, I know the burden of getting rid of parents' items after they're gone. I'd like to just get some of my PC cards and the more valuable ones graded for an easier sell. Good luck on your Gretzky hunt. I had mine stolen back in 91 along with Rickey Henderson and other vintage cards..I never replaced them.

[@williambartenslager4134]

The Carter Hart exclusives could be really good, he’s having a good season so far, exclusives are tough pulls in hockey

[@ASMRPeople]

You should save up a few of those out of left field super undergraded slabs. Do a crack & regrade video. Perhaps it's not a money maker in terms of submission fees, but how would we know plus it always makes for an interesting video.

[@NyckulasLowe]

Question that just popped in my head…do you think PSA/other grading companies assess each bulk order as a whole??? For example, with your 55 card order, do they look at it and say “we can only give 25% GEM MINT 10s for this order”? Just play along with my “conspiracy theory” for a moment lol. Is it within the realm of possibility that they have certain quotas for each card, parallel, grade, etc that they have to stay within to maximize profitability? With your 2 A-Rod cards, if they grade one of them a 6, is it because they’ve considered the fact that a customer would consider cracking and re-submitting? I just used the A-Rod cards as an example. As always, thanks for the great content, Chris!

[@collectorinvestordealer]

Great question. I dont think they do that and I certainly hope not, but I dont know that for sure.

[@itmeyo0]

oo run the show should be your new motto chris ~~

[@kylepatton7289]

All three of my current orders sent in on the bulk modern are over 4 months...

[@collectorinvestordealer]

Oh thats brutal, sorry to hear that. That has not been my recent experience with modern orders.

[@travishouse6295]

Donald collector here. It's really hard to get a PSA 10 on '14 topps chrome, '14 bowman chrome, and '14 prizm

[@collectorinvestordealer]

Thats been my experience as well!

[@kenrogers1948]

Cale muh-CAR for the hockey player... Nathan MacKinnon is also a stud, so good idea there... Carter Hart, not so much...

[@EdwardKiss-w5k]

The 93 sp chipper. We know the foil cards are condition sensitive. Congrats on the grade. I’m curious why Chipper gets high grades while Jeter doesn’t have as many (percentage wise) Is it because of the value difference or is it something else ?

[@collectorinvestordealer]

Its probably mainly due to the fact that many more Jeters are sent in. A Jeter in a "7" quality might still be worth sending in, so a lot of people do. While a Chipper in a "7" quality is not, so most people do not.

[@EdwardKiss-w5k]

Thanks for your reply. It makes sense to me. You’re absolutely right. When I have some time I will research it a little more. How many 9’s and 10’s exist for each player. I would think a lot of cards go back and forth to crossover. Between PSA , SGC and Bgs/Bvg. It seems every time a card changes hands there is always the potential for a crossover. I haven’t looked yet however I’m thinking there are more PSA 9’s of Chipper than Jeter.

[@mikeoxlong8272]

Grading needs to be done by computers....the human element is too much of an x-factor. We can admit that we have all gotten burned by psa at least once.

[@kenrogers1948]

Do a short vid on your research and results on selling the Griffey Die-cut card

[@clayphillips4988]

cool cards that chipper is fire at a 9!

[@tubenachos]

93 SP are cool cards love those

[@mommadontknow]

over the last 8 subs with psa.... you want them back fast... it's all about the start... meaning getting to them quicker to be scanned and we have learned our time is cut in half if we send fed ex.... i promise if you send to psa by fed ex... you will see a 50% quicker response to getting them back and it's not even close.

[@Cards-In-The-Closet]

Then factor in eBay fees….

[@collectorinvestordealer]

The ebay fees were factored in.

[@bryanmccoy203]

Another nice vid 💪🏼 I particularly enjoyed seeing the Thomas 1992 elite. 🔥🔥 would also be curious to know on what platform you’ll be listing the Jake long RC 🐬🐬🐬 cheers !

[@ACD1994]

I wonder if Ohtani receives a lot of 10's to bring the value down. Usually PSA 10's add value, but since apparently they're not very difficult to receive that grade...maybe not. Just my theory anyway. Probably isn't the case for some of his other higher end rookie cards that, are very low number.

[@honson7]

Let’s develop the Ohtani conspiracy!

[@matthewelliott2213]

You could probably crack all of the low grades and resubmit for totally different numbers.

[@Dog8myhomework]

What do you think about how inconsistent PSA has been ? It doesn’t make sense for them to have changed their grading standards but we still value PSA 10s from all years (roughly) the same.

[@Bradydog-in7ut]

By changing their grading standards, PSA admitted that all cards graded before the change are over graded. What should collectors take from this? My take is that PSA grading is no better than anyone else’s grading system except they charge you through the nose to do it. When will people wake up?

[@rjuleson]

Jefferson isn't hurt for the season. He actually may 😊come back this weekend.

[@collectorinvestordealer]

Oh nice! For some reason I thought he was out all season.

[@rjuleson]

@@collectorinvestordealer Love your content!

[@quacha86Erin]

One thing I hate most about Panini cards is that unlike card companies of the past they never have a different image on the back of their cards. It's such a lazy idea and very uninteresting. How were designs of the 90s better than today considering technology?

[@David-fv7zg]

Im guessing you felt strongly on some of these 9's, otherwise you wouldn't have sent him in. Im curious, with PSA grading as it has been, and as you have shown, would you consider the next batch to SGC? If you are looking at 9 or 10, if the 9 wont cover the cost of grading, I would prob not grade them, but Im not doing this for a living.

[@collectorinvestordealer]

Great question. As someone who does this for a living and pays bills with it, sending the majority of these to SGC is really not an option as the resale value just isnt there.

[@TwoPyramid]

Nice PSA 10 Cale Makar.

[@andre_boulet_guitars]

I want to sell cards too. The only thing that prevents me to do so is that i dont know what to charge for shipping. Because i need to right that price, but not knowing from where the buyers gonna be, i cant know in advance how much it gonna cost... So how to know ? 🤷🏻

[@richardbianco9674]

You don't guess, you let the system determine cost. EBay will calculate based on where they are. If you have an idea of about where a card will end up ( if doing auction) you can add that much insurance to the overall cost by adding the a few bucks into the handling section

[@andre_boulet_guitars]

@@richardbianco9674 OK, thank you for the info. 👍🏼

[@ilovecake1310]

What do you think that Ohtani PSA 9 red shirt pitching rookie is worth? I just picked one up on eBay for 43.50 all in. Did I get a good deal?

[@BLYKMYK44]

Any recommendations on a template to catalog your cards? Is there an app? Excel template?

[@collectorinvestordealer]

I just use excel but there are lots of online catalog companies that offer that service.

[@BLYKMYK44]

@@collectorinvestordealer would you ever share the format/info you use to track? I have to imagine it’s hard to keep track of all your stuff

[@simondaughtry4619]

Crack out the Mailman... send it USPS back to the Beach.

[@Rfflllss]

You think psa isn’t as hardcore on 10s on ohtani cause they already know it’s so high pop, whats another few 10s on top?

[@wheetie7]

Come on chris.. crack and resub!! Give us the video!!

[@MarioLuigi-vb3rp]

Psa is showing once again they don’t want to stay in business with the inconsistencies.

[@wheetie7]

Seriously.. did you see NEO cracked his psa 5 and resubed And got a 10!?!?!??!?!?

[@collectorinvestordealer]

I did see that. Crazy!

[@luke5947]

Awesome show 😎 ✌️

[@williamcollins8098]

A+ for effert.The graders were stingy.

[@longlostsonicsfan]

I hate to say it, but kind of a junky order, minus the Griffey /100!

[@Intensity-qz2jx]

How often do you a bulk submission?

[@collectorinvestordealer]

Maybe about one per month or so.

[@eriks5729]

Hey Chris, great video as always! Are these cards that you bought as singles with the intent to grade or were these part of a collection that you purchased?

[@collectorinvestordealer]

Almost all of these were part of collections I bought.

[@GoldenSlumber474]

Hi Chris! I hear you need some pronunciation assistance on hockey cards. Think of a Kale salad & a used Toyota Camry Car. “Kale Ma-Car”. There you go. 😉

[@collectorinvestordealer]

Haha thanks :)

[@kellkingdom3118]

I sent in 51 card and got back 18 10s 23 9s and 10 lower would have been happier with more 10s but what can you do lol

[@collectorinvestordealer]

Yeah thats sort of line with what I get these days

[@TheMisfits7783]

I PC Jake Long Been a Dolphins fan 30+ years and he wore 77 My birth year

[@williambartenslager4134]

He also played for Michigan, lots of collectors for UM as well

[@matthewcook2097]

love the vids - u have any plans on being at the burbank card show in February?

[@collectorinvestordealer]

I am going to try to make Burbank in February as I have never been

[@matthewcook2097]

@@collectorinvestordealer nice!!! It'll be my first real card show since I was a kid!! Hope to see u there!

[@scotthoppe5655]

Seems about right a few 10'$ a lot of 9's and a few wtf?

[@YouFold2Me]

Hi Chris, sent you an email, if you could find a moment to check it out.

[@checkmugged]

Explain to me the two ‘94 Arod’s value please. You said raw they’re $15 a card and graded one would be $20 and the other $5. So why wouldn’t you just crack the one that’s worth $5 graded and sell it raw?!

[@checkmugged]

I see, I see. Good explanation.

[@in2rock275]

Biggio "Low End Hall of Famer"? Reminds me of what they call someone who finishes last in their medical school graduating class...Doctor.

[@jeffreypeace2696]

You'd be a much better Grader than those PSA Kids...if you wanted to take a massive pay cut.

[@itmeyo0]

gj chris ~~

[@ACD1994]

The irony of Karl Malone and Deshaun Watson being back to back. I know 'the mailman' is in, the basketball hall of fame. But truly garbage. I'm that much more glad that, Jordan and, the Bulls beat them back in the day. Twice. Lol.

[@Dog8myhomework]

The grader likes ohtani 😂

[@RCA_Dome]

Cale My Car

[@ericbergeron3749]

First

[@collectorinvestordealer]

We have a winner!

[@MarioLuigi-vb3rp]

Be honest don’t shill for psa you can’t run a business like this

[@nathanblaylock8186]

Any advice on how to guess the grade a card will get?

[@rockcundiff1761]

2018 BC Ohtani batting in a 10 has gone from 1,300 to 535 in 3 month

[@jerrelbean]

It's cale mackare

[@rockcundiff1761]

Cards are in the tank, almost worthless now. Many have dropped 60-70% in value

[@TwoPyramid]

I wish.