Crack It, Cross It Over, Or Sell It As Is - What Would You Do With This Card?

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@frankspicci9994
@frankspicci9994 11 ай бұрын
I'm a full-time dealer & have been doing it for 27 years but you can still take this with a grain of salt. You're definitely not going to get a 9 from psa. And my guess is that they would hammer it down to a seven possibly. They're inconsistencies just cause me to steer clear of anything on the spectrum of G.O.A.T.'s. I'm a big supporter of SGC and their constant consistency and the strength of the money they bring on vintage. All that being said, if I owned this card I would give it to them and see if they would cross it. I'll give them the minimum grade of an 8. I think it's a strong candidate for an eight or an 8.5 for sure. Assuming PSA got everything else right with the nine grade. And I think it's worth the $85 bucks to try to get a $500 to $1,000 bump in value if it comes back in 8 or an 8.5. Which I'm pretty confident it would. Anyways, you asked. I'm not sure if it's because you actually are confused or if you just wanted comments to help the algorithm but there you go. I feel like you already know what to do though.
@Volkswagenplanet
@Volkswagenplanet 11 ай бұрын
He knows. Clicks, or his conscious of greed. Cant sleep at night. Great comment
@RichardRennes
@RichardRennes 11 ай бұрын
I can`t see this getting more than a PSA 7 if resubmitted. There isn`t just a "small bit" of printing defect on the upper right edge, there is some on each side of Dr. J`s shoulder level, some on each side of Larry Bird`s shoulder level, and alot of "white snow" in the backgrounds, especially in the Bird background. Plus, in the pic at 9:16, it looks like the bottom right corner has a "bowing/bend/curl" to it, either that, or it`s "mis-cut" and might not even get graded due to being mis-cut.
@Volkswagenplanet
@Volkswagenplanet 11 ай бұрын
PUT YOURSELF IN THE SHOES OF A BUYER. DO WHATS RIGHT FOR THE HOBBY
@KipArmadillo
@KipArmadillo 11 ай бұрын
If PSA 8's go for $3300, price it as a PSA 8, and accept offers. Maybe you get $2500-3k, because someone will love the way it looks, won't care about the qualifier and will "buy the card, not the grade" for their PC. Or trade it straight up for a used Toyota Camry.
@horsetooth
@horsetooth 11 ай бұрын
The crack is worth the risk. I need this brother.
@KipArmadillo
@KipArmadillo 11 ай бұрын
@@horsetooth For you, the action is the juice.
@djflipping6506
@djflipping6506 11 ай бұрын
Based on ebay comps you leave it as is. List for $3k. It will sell eventually. Unless you think vintage is going down in the next year. Luv ur vids!
@darnellstrength5322
@darnellstrength5322 11 ай бұрын
Beautiful card and some great options! I personally would probably just leave it as is and try to resell the PD, you can set the market and ask high as these (even in a PD) do not come up very often.. If you do not get an offer that you are happy with my next route would be the crossover to SGC as it is cheap and fast and would bump value or at worst you're only out the SGC fees. One option you did not say was to send to PSA for a graded card review, where you send the graded card in and ask them to review the grade. I think you can set a min on that but i am not sure. I will say (you know better than me) it seems like no one gets the review service and is happy about the results from what I have read. I think we are pretty similar in being risk adverse but also considering upside. No matter what beautiful card and leaving as is is not a bad option.
@collectorinvestordealer
@collectorinvestordealer 11 ай бұрын
Great idea on the PSA review. That should be considered as well.
@jacobw8849
@jacobw8849 11 ай бұрын
I love that card and it looks awesome! I would definitely snap it and resubmit it. Just from a buyer's perspective those qualifiers are a huge buzzkill. They almost seem like they were PSA's attempt at subgrades but they made it too complicated.
@cardwolf
@cardwolf 11 ай бұрын
Chris--I agree with all of your analysis in the video, and I've read through the comments here as well to this point. A few things worth noting--the ink marks are also evident on the other 2 players at about the same height, though lighter. This, to me, makes the PD qualifier more valid (though certainly still unusual). Also, if PSA assesses the ink marks as a manufacturing defect (which as you noted, are pretty common for this set), then there is zero likelihood that cleaning the card would remove them (I note this as some commenters have suggested you could remove them, and I doubt very much that's possible). Finally, the front surface wear is evident to the naked eye in a video, so that's going to hurt the grade. If I understand how PSA qualifiers work, no points were deducted for the ink marks, and the 9 is a result of a deduction for surface wear. So if you resubbed, and PSA did not give it a qualifier (which is likely, IMO), then you'd lose points on the card for the ink, likely taking it to an 8 or 7. In the end, like you, I don't foresee this card receiving a 9 on any sort of resub or crossover. 8 is most likely IMO, though 7 is very possible. I feel that trying for a crossover grade with SGC would result in a 7.5, which does not really help you on a resale. A resub to PSA gains you nothing--your best hope would be to receive a straight 9, with no qualifier, and I don't think that's a reasonable hope. And flip a coin with them on it getting a 7 or 8. Therefore, I think your best option is to sell the card as-is. It is your least-entertaining option, of course, but the other options don't have enough likely upside IMO. Post it on a $2250 BIN and take offers. Good luck!
@collectorinvestordealer
@collectorinvestordealer 11 ай бұрын
Great points here
@billdestefano486
@billdestefano486 11 ай бұрын
This is a great option as someone else mentioned. Keep as-is and set your own price. Great looking card no doubt, but not perfect. No need to risk regrading.
@aboyd03
@aboyd03 11 ай бұрын
This is the best answer imo.
@cardwolf
@cardwolf 11 ай бұрын
@@aboyd03 Thanks for writing that--I appreciate that : )
@jude999
@jude999 11 ай бұрын
Off center. With those dots, I agree with Frank, it could be kicked downt to a 7, or 6.
@jeremystark3350
@jeremystark3350 11 ай бұрын
This card is notorious for ink damage, mostly dots of different color ink on front and also in bottom right corner an estimated 50% have a small black line under the Magic Johnson card. One of my favorite cards, I own a PSA 7 and a sgc 6, look great with SGC black slab, I prefer the 6 for eye appeal.
@carlos424
@carlos424 11 ай бұрын
I’d sell as is. If you resubmit, I think an 8 is the best you could hope for but expect a 7. Let someone else take that risk. Especially with PSA seemingly trying to control pop counts with their more stringent grading.
@dwanehubbard2935
@dwanehubbard2935 11 ай бұрын
I would say crossover. Worst case it stays in the psa slab and you sell it like that but u could get a 8 or 9 so realistically you're risking $80 to potentially gain thousands. Send it to crossover and cross ur fingers for that 9
@scratchthrift3370
@scratchthrift3370 11 ай бұрын
It’s tough. I really try and not reward PSA with my money anymore due to the reasons you mentioned and just blatant pop manipulation and management. As such I personally use SGC. But since it’s strictly for resell the decision is much more difficult. I probably would try listing as is for $2500 OBO. Give it a few weeks and see what offers you get. It’s incredibly sharp and someone might just pull the trigger on that price since the OC went that high. Good luck!
@billdestefano486
@billdestefano486 11 ай бұрын
I think this is the best advice and one option I didn’t consider. Ask 2500, take 2200 and still make your money with no effort. Crossing over or resubmitting, you’re taking risk and honestly I don’t trust any of these grading companies anymore. It’s clearly more a money game than providing a legit service.
@jimmy_iKoN
@jimmy_iKoN 11 ай бұрын
Agree, I would list it at 2500 obo. I think the card is worth between 2k - 2,300 and I would say it sells on the higher end.
@vintagecardnerd
@vintagecardnerd 11 ай бұрын
Option 4 could be send back to PSA for a review asking to remove the qualifier with a minimum grade of a straight 8. That is what I would do. Small risk (just the fee) for pretty good upside. all the best, Ronnie
@vince5567
@vince5567 11 ай бұрын
I'd definitely go with option one for the following reasons: 1) There's no risk. 2) It creates the least amount of work for you. 3) You will get it sold quickest. 4) I don't think that will get a 9 from either grading company (of course this is debatable, and you would know better than me) That's a great card that people are going to want as it is. Based on the PSA 9 (OC) comp, I'd sell it for $2,495 / offer. If you don't get an offer you like, I'd go with option 2. I really enjoy your channel. Keep up the great work.
@evsportsman5478
@evsportsman5478 11 ай бұрын
Hard to say when you didn’t specify what you paid. Profit potential is a huge factor. If you can double your money by sending to SGC and getting a 7 then that seems like a no brainer.
@bryanmccoy203
@bryanmccoy203 11 ай бұрын
I understand your point… but feel like I should point you to Chris’s video about sunk costs from a while back
@spaceviking4966
@spaceviking4966 11 ай бұрын
You're not alone Chris. Confusion is a common feeling that occurs when one tries to understand PSA grading standards.
@AtomicZombieAndroid
@AtomicZombieAndroid 11 ай бұрын
Only thing they do consistently is give Nat 10s
@brettcb471
@brettcb471 11 ай бұрын
Option 3 is an excellent way to turn that into a PSA 5-6 - any visible surface issue is at best a 7 nowadays
@DansVintageBaseballPC
@DansVintageBaseballPC 11 ай бұрын
I feel like this is almost certainly an SGC 8. That snow around Bird combined with the black specks near Magic are going to hurt, obviously. But the "holistic" approach by SGC is also going to take into account the stellar eye appeal. I believe this is your best choice. I would love to see a follow-up video though!
@forzendikar9908
@forzendikar9908 11 ай бұрын
Beautiful card even with the qualifier. I would sell as is, I wouldn’t be surprised if you get some offers after viewers see this video.
@JustinKircherjK
@JustinKircherjK 11 ай бұрын
I would get the pliers and flathead screwdriver ready to crack it. I would also try cleaning the mark (not with a kit). Maybe a micro fiber cloth and a drop of water would actually get rid of it or make it less pronounced.
@jeremystark3350
@jeremystark3350 11 ай бұрын
With a card this old u cant use any water or ever try to remove the ink damage, u will risk ruining the card entirely. Better to just leave it alone & hope for the best if resubmitting.
@nathanwoods1927
@nathanwoods1927 11 ай бұрын
Option 1 is your best option followed by option 2. There’s no reason to resubmit it, watch your own video again and listen to your thoughts on option 3, clearly it’s your worst option and you don’t feel comfortable with it leaving the grade to PSAs erratic grading lately. I think option 1 brings you the most money. Imho in option 2 your card will likely grade a 7 or less. You can see the print defect through the whole card from right to left on the white background. It’s not just on the right. If it were on the back different story, but it’s on the front of the card. I don’t think this card grades an 8, I’d be surprised if a grader gave your card that given how noticeable the print defect is from right to left. Very nice card, looking forward to what you decide.
@drowninglifeguards
@drowninglifeguards 11 ай бұрын
this issue is near and dear to my heart, as i just cracked this card in an old BGS holder, originally graded around 2002 (subs were like 8,8,7, then 4 for Surface, although no surface issues were visible upon super close inspection). when cracking it out of the case, i nicked the surface with the screwdriver and left a small imprint over Magic's section of the card. Sent it to SGC, where it graded a 6. That pretty much confirmed my original hypothesis that the card deserved a 7 or so, but then i messed it up a bit lol. Ended up selling for $750 in the SGC holder!
@thomascourt4935
@thomascourt4935 11 ай бұрын
I know I would rather buy it, "as is." Ever hear the expression that you can change the outcome of something by measuring it? Well, making this video would make me want to keep the card exactly how it is. There is a KZbin video dedicated entirely to this card! What a conversation piece that can add to its value!!!
@MrWrestling2
@MrWrestling2 11 ай бұрын
3,1,2. But it's your card... it's really up to you to decide what you want to do.
@howardweinstein1324
@howardweinstein1324 11 ай бұрын
I had a 500 count factory box of that year,and couldn't figure out to make a set,so I toss them in the thrash. Threw out thousands of dollars am guessing, probably paid 5 bucks for it back then. TRUE STORY.
@OldManGame
@OldManGame 11 ай бұрын
I would not risk craking that. No one is giving that a 9 today.
@EricCKeys
@EricCKeys 11 ай бұрын
Maybe, maybe not. The truth is that none of us really know and it depends who grades it today.
@OldManGame
@OldManGame 11 ай бұрын
@pete5691 That's what I said.
@Intensity-qz2jx
@Intensity-qz2jx 11 ай бұрын
Another great video. I have been told the print defects were due to bad roller during production. It’s a very common problem with that card, that's is why drawl a PSA 9 or 10. Then that makes them very expensive. I got lucky and found a PSA 7 without that particular problem. A card with a qualifier is not ideal and easy to resell. If you cracked and sent it to PSA at best you will get a 8 but a very strong chance in getting a 7. SGC brings lower resale prices behind PSA and BGS. If I had a BGS membership I would give them try and whoever you pick to submit to ask for minimum grade.
@Volkswagenplanet
@Volkswagenplanet 11 ай бұрын
Sell it as is. Dont get greedy. It also keeps the pop #s correct. Its a beautiful card
@GoldenSlumber474
@GoldenSlumber474 11 ай бұрын
In this day & age of grading standards, I would leave the card as is. If regraded, I think you’re looking at a 7.
@PiscatawayMike
@PiscatawayMike 11 ай бұрын
Quite a coincidence... I've been wondering what to do with my PSA 8(ST) of the same card.
@BRSBRS-uy6vv
@BRSBRS-uy6vv 11 ай бұрын
Resubmit to PSA, definitely. Personally, I’d never buy a card with a qualifier on it, I’d say it’s a gamble , yes, but worth taking. Good luck!! Look forward to seeing what you do and the results.
@LeeCopus
@LeeCopus 11 ай бұрын
I'd just sell like it is. Why keep trying to mess with another grade when it Is what Is.
@mookiechillson
@mookiechillson 11 ай бұрын
The print marks travel across the card - you can see them between Bird and Dr J on a parallel line with the print mark on the right border. You can also see the print faintly on the left side of Magic, by his elbow. It’s not bad! But it’s there. I would submit to SGC with min grade 8 and if they don’t cross it, sell as is.
@mookiechillson
@mookiechillson 11 ай бұрын
I’m looking closely - not high res - but you can see print mark on the left border too (on Larry’s left)
@TalkingBallCards
@TalkingBallCards 11 ай бұрын
I’d go the SGC route, BUT, I’d certainly crack it before sending to them. I know graders attempt to stay impartial during cross over, but we are all human. The other plus to SGC is you will know in 2 days what your result it. With PSA, you will wait a week + at the $150 service (in my experience). I think an 8.5 is in the cards with SGC
@johnwelsh6656
@johnwelsh6656 11 ай бұрын
I think I'd sell as is at first. Try to get 2k or more. Then if it doesn't sell soon then crack and send to PSA. It would be worth the risk if it's as good as you say it is. That's my opinion...
@fjf6050
@fjf6050 11 ай бұрын
Sell as is, List at PSA 9 price and take offers. You aren't getting a 9 grade anywhere. I don't think the qualifier will decrease value as much as a lower grade would.
@franciscomontano2304
@franciscomontano2304 11 ай бұрын
Thank you for what you do Chris, we appreciate you
@Schoolboy681
@Schoolboy681 11 ай бұрын
I totally agree Chris. The card looks very much like an 8. Personally, I would resubmit to PSA if your plan is to resell. However, if it was going into my PC, I would send it to SGC to get a new, fresh grading perspective. Good luck, and let us know what you end up deciding to do, ok?
@wesleyhodge9457
@wesleyhodge9457 11 ай бұрын
With PSAs inconsistencies I would have to go with Option 2; no risk of damaging it by cracking it (I know, low probability anyway, but you never know) and with SGC grading harshly, but fairly you can specify a minimum of 8 and hope it crosses higher.
@jayguiliano2310
@jayguiliano2310 11 ай бұрын
that is ink on that card - it doesn't come off; I opened about 10 boxes of that in the mid-1980s - there are really 4 variants in the printing - depending on the box you got - that year is really tough on registration and centering within the perforation lines
@tampahomeinvestorsllc7559
@tampahomeinvestorsllc7559 11 ай бұрын
Unless you think you can remove the issue without doing anything more than a microfiber cloth, I’d leave it as is. You’ll just receive a card with a lesser grade. Like you said, PSA now is so strict, especially on a card like this, you’re only going to hurt yourself. I see a little more surface issues too. Unless I missed it, we didn’t get to hear what you paid for the card, this is important information if you’re asking us these questions.
@AtomicZombieAndroid
@AtomicZombieAndroid 11 ай бұрын
Why is price paid important information? He wants to resell for the most, how would knowing how much he paid change that?
@tampahomeinvestorsllc7559
@tampahomeinvestorsllc7559 11 ай бұрын
@@AtomicZombieAndroid It’s important because we don’t know if he overpaid for the card or not. If he did overpay, the riskier options of a potential lower grade from cracking the card out and potentially losing money, change the the decision or advice he’s asking us for. We don’t have the full picture without it.
@tampahomeinvestorsllc7559
@tampahomeinvestorsllc7559 11 ай бұрын
@@AtomicZombieAndroid If he paid $500 for the card, vs say $1,500, wouldn’t that potentially change the advice you’d give him ?? I would think so. Then there’s content wise. Chris has always been fully transparent in the past on profit and loss and people like that. He shouldn’t be ashamed of making or even losing money, it just felt like it was missing from this example from his normal content.
@AtomicZombieAndroid
@AtomicZombieAndroid 11 ай бұрын
​@@tampahomeinvestorsllc7559 No, it doesn't matter. His objective is to make the most money reselling. Why would that change if he paid $5 or $5000, the objective remains the same.
@andrewreid895
@andrewreid895 11 ай бұрын
He’s also been transparent in putting emotion aside & doing what is financially more sound for him in the long run… so what he paid for the card has no barring on his decision.
@BPal75
@BPal75 11 ай бұрын
Option 2 is the way to go. Risk $85 to get $400 value is worth it in this scenario. Option 3 is the gamble - could be a home run but as you said a lot of downside. Personally I don’t think it’s worth the risk.
@kiddcanibus
@kiddcanibus 11 ай бұрын
It has really good eye appeal and I think cracking it would be a mistake. Crossing it over to SGC since you can set the floor would be what I'd do. Cracking is just not an option to me though. PSA is too volatile in their grading, especially with vintage these days.
@NuthinFancyCollectibles
@NuthinFancyCollectibles 11 ай бұрын
Glad I don’t have to make that decision! I would sell it as is due to the risk of a lower grade or making a mistake when cracking it out. Looking forward to a follow up video.
@voyer44
@voyer44 11 ай бұрын
Sell as is. Let the next buyer weigh the same options you mentioned.
@mattf.4727
@mattf.4727 11 ай бұрын
What about option #4: Submit to PSA under its grade review service? That way you don't have to crack it and still get PSA to review its work. Might also be cheaper ($75) depending on value assigned.
@SlapNSniff
@SlapNSniff 11 ай бұрын
leave it
@joemcglone7267
@joemcglone7267 11 ай бұрын
Personally I’d sell as is and keep my money moving. Can’t say I’ve ever attempted the crack and resub but the risk + time commitment doesn’t seem worthwhile.
@rickellsmore8731
@rickellsmore8731 11 ай бұрын
Leave it
@davidbrasfield6720
@davidbrasfield6720 11 ай бұрын
I would keep it as an upgrade from my sgc 3, but for me it's a grail card. Good luck, whichever you decide.
@mikemorrissey7928
@mikemorrissey7928 11 ай бұрын
As a former newspaper pressman, the front color is off side to side, especially the ball above Dr. J. The magenta color appears to be off top to bottom, too much yellow shows on its own. On the back, the blue is off and needed to be dropped some so no white area is showing. Print defect on the front looks to be across the card around the head to chest areas of each player...looks like something slid across the card, sort of scratching it so to speak. Overall the card looks awesome so I don't know if PSA grades bases on colors being off side to side or up and down, or is it strictly the scratching type defect on the front? I don't sell cards but if I did, I'd probably sell as is.
@jimfree0
@jimfree0 11 ай бұрын
Hit it with a grade - I'd be curious to hear an old-hand ink-slingers opinion. I'd never considered that for all the reasons, someone like you might be the very zenith of qualifications for trading card grading.
@mikemorrissey7928
@mikemorrissey7928 11 ай бұрын
@@jimfree0 What got me thinking about the color being off, I was looking at a hand full of the 2010 Topps Heritage (1961 design) cards I have. Each card is actually printed with a couple colors being outside the lines at the bottom of the cards, which appears to have been done purposefully for this set. The actual 1961 set seems to have the same out of print lines as well. Just an alternative viewpoint to consider when looking to grade cards.
@jimfree0
@jimfree0 11 ай бұрын
@@mikemorrissey7928 A fascinating detail note; this is the kind of granular detail, and process understanding that may not underpin the current grading segment. I'd bargain that the printing process itself is not intimately familiar to most grading entities, much less when registration of color swipes was off (or intentionally off~!). It might be easier if grading companies just spelled it out and admitted that X% of their grading is actually a quality audit of Topps, Inc machinery - the rest is how carefully we kept our grubby little fingers off the cards...if you ever go nuts and open a grading company, I want to be an investor.
@kenschnell9618
@kenschnell9618 11 ай бұрын
SGC would be my choice.......I recently resubmitted to PSA a 1968 Pete Rose that originally got a 4. It looked better in my estimate. The second time around, it got a 5 from PSA. Go figure. The grader does also count, but overall, PSA is somewhat of a baseball card grading gamble.
@jimmy_iKoN
@jimmy_iKoN 11 ай бұрын
The print dots on bird/magic rookies are pretty common. If you did cross I would go SGC but personally I think in the end this card values $2k-$2300. I would just list it at $2,500 obo and if it doesn't sell in a certain amount of time then maybe cross with SGC. Unlikely this card goes down considering how sharp and well centered it is.
@jdmousley2314
@jdmousley2314 11 ай бұрын
IMO I think that sending to SGC is the best option for this card. PSA has been notoriously difficult on grading vintage lately. They could very easily say thats a psa 5 because why not. I think the roughly 80 dollar gamble is worth it at SGC, pretty decent chance at getting an 8 or an 8.5. PSA is just way too big of a gamble at 150 bucks.
@creatine101
@creatine101 11 ай бұрын
Personally I would not resubmit to PSA right now. As you mentioned they are all over the place. I would option two simply because if I was buying this card I would rather buy a SGC 8 than a PSA with a qualifier.
@ACD1994
@ACD1994 11 ай бұрын
I would try gauging interest whether that's eBay or in person, and see what the interest is, if you find someone who's interested- they meet your asking price or are, in the ball park, I would just make the deal. It's an iconic card though, so you should be able to find that buyer for this card.
@gridironmonk
@gridironmonk 11 ай бұрын
One of the best sets out there!
@deefuri
@deefuri 11 ай бұрын
This is actually a really tough call. The only thing I would say is by todays PSA standards, especially for a card of this caliber I don't think they would grade it a 9. I'm not a dealer, but I would try to sell it over $2000+, maybe even 2500 because of the eye appeal. if that doesn't work then I would crack it and resubmit it. Good luck Chris!
@vintagecollector5340
@vintagecollector5340 11 ай бұрын
Beautiful card! A gem in my eyes! Plot twist: since the "PD" label is no longer used by PSA, it is EXTREMELY RARE and it outsells a PSA 10!!!
@dustendawin4657
@dustendawin4657 11 ай бұрын
That only works in Pokemon......
@robintaylor-mockingeemill8223
@robintaylor-mockingeemill8223 11 ай бұрын
sorry . No
@AtomicZombieAndroid
@AtomicZombieAndroid 11 ай бұрын
haha, guaranteed ebay 1/1
@vintagecollector5340
@vintagecollector5340 11 ай бұрын
@@AtomicZombieAndroid Guaranteed one-of-a-kind!! Gem quality card with a print defect that can't be seen!!
@cditsious
@cditsious 11 ай бұрын
Can't wait to see what you decide and what happens!!!
@KorvidRavenscraft
@KorvidRavenscraft 11 ай бұрын
After watching NEO Cards and Comics's debacle of sending a card that got a PSA 6, then when the same exact card cracked and resubmitted, came back a PSA 10, you're literally gambling on grades at the current state of PSA
@jimfalkler9361
@jimfalkler9361 11 ай бұрын
Chris, I spoke to you at the Chantilly show and had you look at a few of my cards that I considered to get graded by SGC. I submitted 3 of them, the 68 Topps Clemente came back as a7, the 71 Topps Seaver got a 7 and the 68 Topps Maris got a 4. I wanted to thank you again for your help.
@collectorinvestordealer
@collectorinvestordealer 11 ай бұрын
Oh cool! Congrats on the grades.
@stevejones5075
@stevejones5075 11 ай бұрын
I would sell it as is. The risk that a grader sees the defect as a bad surface issue and gives a lower grade would be worse IMO
@storybookgolf436
@storybookgolf436 11 ай бұрын
Not sure what you make on these videos but that could make it somewhat of a free roll because your audience is interested in the outcomes. That said, I’d avoid the cracking and resubmitting to PSA option altogether which it sounds like you’re already there are on that decision. Love your channel. Thanks for what you do.
@jumpoffstake5875
@jumpoffstake5875 11 ай бұрын
It actually looks like the line goes across the card. I see something on the white next to both Dr J and Bird. I would probably send, as is, to SGC and see what they would grade it. Then sell as is. Not worth the risk of snapping with PSA getting stricter IMO. Good luck!!
@Gibbs2626
@Gibbs2626 11 ай бұрын
I think it depends what you paid for it. Personally I'd take a chance at cracking and resubmitting to psa and hope for an 8
@ADPfan07
@ADPfan07 11 ай бұрын
I would crack and resubmit to PSA. I believe that card is worth the gamble and should grade an 8. Best of luck with whatever you choose and I look forward to watching the video to see how it goes for you.
@Freakmeal
@Freakmeal 11 ай бұрын
Chris, of the many great videos you make, these types of videos are the most fun - you make fair and compelling cases for all three scenarios. If I am honest, Option Four is what I think I would pursue. Crack the card and if it is a PSA 8 or 9, hold the card. The Bird/Magic/Dr.J card is now selling for around 2019 prices. You would think that this would be the most vintage of vintage cards (three all-time icons, and two in their rookie years). My bet is that 2 years from now, a PSA 9 will top $4000. Of course, that begs the second question, would you rather have $3300 now, or $4k in two years? After inflation and current economic conditions - door number one may be better. And, of course, you could use the funds to buy other cards so there is always an opportunity cost involved.
@MileHigh_BoulderCO
@MileHigh_BoulderCO 11 ай бұрын
I've graded cards for s long time Chris. I've think you leave it as is. A PD is not the same as an OC or MK because it has great eye appeal, people who are buying that card would know that it is due to the technology of the day, and it's not off center which makes the card unappealing which does lower the card value two grades. It's value is a PSA 8 and PSA will give it a 7. It's the Wayne Gretzky RC situation.
@warriorcards65
@warriorcards65 11 ай бұрын
Leave as is. PSA is pretty tough on everything recently.
@jimfalkler9361
@jimfalkler9361 11 ай бұрын
Hi Chris. I would sell it as it and if you have a buyer already. Go ahead and that.
@nautilusshell940
@nautilusshell940 11 ай бұрын
sell as is
@ASMRPeople
@ASMRPeople 11 ай бұрын
Probably cracking it & resubmitted to psa has the highest expected value. Even if you have a 10% chance at a 9, that drives the whole thing. A 10% shot at 15k is worth 1.5K even if the 8 was worth zero. That's always been the grading thing right, just get lucky on a couple cards and break even on the rest. Grading is really like busting wax. 😂
@seanpetrie4300
@seanpetrie4300 11 ай бұрын
I don’t know if this would be why it received the PD qualifier but it’s also missing a little bit or serration. Between the 3 mini cards
@HarupertBeagleton-dz5gw
@HarupertBeagleton-dz5gw 11 ай бұрын
I thought it was off centered but the gaps look uniform with each other. The left side of the card has a thinner border because of the breakaway part. I don’t think it’s possible for both sides to be equal and all three be uniform.
@jacobw8849
@jacobw8849 11 ай бұрын
I actually think that is a relatively common printmark. I know that I have seen copies with respectable grades (7&8) that have it. Your card is centered so nicely though... I think it would be a PSA 8 but what do I know?
@longlostsonicsfan
@longlostsonicsfan 11 ай бұрын
Sell as is..
@kfordham281
@kfordham281 11 ай бұрын
It looks like the black dots go all the way across the card. You can see them on the right side of all players about the same vertical height. Perhaps that is why it’s a PD vs a lower grade without a qualifier.
@pauloadams6330
@pauloadams6330 11 ай бұрын
In my business I tend to take the quick money when I can. Having said that, though, I don't often have the potential to add significant value to what I am reselling. I would probably take into consideration how much the loss would impact my personal finances. If there was not a potential for a significant impact on my personal finances then I think I would crack it and send it to PSA.
@spacecatboy2962
@spacecatboy2962 11 ай бұрын
I think you should open it up, tear it in 3 pieces and sell them seperate
@collectorinvestordealer
@collectorinvestordealer 11 ай бұрын
3 cards is better than 1
@bradgoren5710
@bradgoren5710 11 ай бұрын
It appears blue ink is missing in the bottom field next to the number 174? No ?
@cardmanjohn4916
@cardmanjohn4916 11 ай бұрын
Both sides of Larry’s face has ink in the white border, just thin black lines kinda, you can clearly see it over the blue border of his card. Damn shame, but that’s the perfect holder for that card.
@joeyrulz86
@joeyrulz86 11 ай бұрын
personally I would resubmit to PSA but in this rare case i feel SGC might be the better option. I dont see this getting better than a 7 w psa after I sent a card recently w a very similar print defect that came back a 6... and the card was sharp. I too have cracked and messed up one card before and it was a 1/1 superfractor... but since its a 1/1 its the only one out there anyway so its not gonna ruin the card for me... just annoyed it happened. You might actually get the card from me in another order soon. its an old 1960 willie mays in a psa 6. Still solid grade but we were expecting a 7 or 8.
@Sandman60077
@Sandman60077 11 ай бұрын
I'd leave it the way it is. If you resubmit to PSA you'll most likely get a 7 or 8. My guess is that SGC would give it an 8 or 8.5.
@joeym2675
@joeym2675 11 ай бұрын
I think it’s gotta chance of a SGC 8.5 maybe a 9. If the defects are the only thing wrong with the card I feel it’s a SGC 9
@jaqueitch
@jaqueitch 11 ай бұрын
I think I would have held out for a full-on PSA 9, if I wanted that card that badly. Otherwise, I'd try for an SGC 9 or a PSA 8
@gabriels1163
@gabriels1163 11 ай бұрын
Psa with qualifiers are tough to sell and don't go for much. Id rather have an 8 than a 9pd
@jbscardbreaks4389
@jbscardbreaks4389 11 ай бұрын
I think I’d try sgc it should get an 8-8.5
@Johndeplume.
@Johndeplume. 11 ай бұрын
You do this for a living, and I certainly don't, so I'm sure you know which option is best for you. You probably know more than many graders too, which gives you an added edge. With that said, generally speaking, I always look to get the highest reward for the least risk (and an added bonus is if there's minimum added effort on my end). If the risk is high, but the reward associated with this risk doesn't warrant taking it, then I'd refain. I don't know what you paid for the card, but if all options yield you a profit, then I'd likely go with the one with the least risk (Option A). Keep us updated when this item sells. Best of luck, Chris. 👍
@blakeramone
@blakeramone 11 ай бұрын
I recently got a 9 on a card with slight misprint, was expecting 8, feared 7. my spot was white in a black border line, yours are ink spots in border spaces, so I think yours looks worse. Your guesses seem right on and I predict an 8 too. But let them tell you it's not a 9, not me. They just had a sale on this grading level last week, so I hope you decided already :)
@kenrogers1948
@kenrogers1948 11 ай бұрын
I think PSA is likely to grade this one even lower nowadays... that 'schmutz' to the right of Magic's panel continues in varying degrees of intensity all the way through to to the left of Bird's Panel(it's just hard to see in spots)... SGC is so hyperfocused on centering I might try them(at least you get the card back fast)... I'd probably just sell as is
@robinrahmani4705
@robinrahmani4705 11 ай бұрын
I think it depends on how much you paid for it.
@LegacyCards
@LegacyCards 11 ай бұрын
Option #4: Crack and sell it raw. Amazing eye appeal if you sell it with a trusted consigner for vintage raw like Greg Morris you would probably still get the upside of the 8s without taking the risk yourself of actually getting it graded. Thoughts?
@nolanpaul52
@nolanpaul52 11 ай бұрын
Is the upper left blue border above Larry bird faded? I would sell it as is, a lot of the new PSA graders would grade anything with a print defect PSA 6 from what I’ve received. Even when every card has that same defect and it’s very common for that particular card which is frustrating because I’ve seen the same defect on tens, but mine got a six
@junk90s92
@junk90s92 11 ай бұрын
This case is definitely right on the line. Agreed it’s most likely an 8, with the risk mostly lying in how erratic PSA has been lately. Most likely outcome is you spend $150 on the crack and resub and make ~$700. Excellent return. The upside of the 9, even a long shot, outweighs the downside of the 7. Call it a wash if you’re being conservative. Crack and resub… As a viewer - go for it!!!! Would love to see how it turns out. If it’s my card, I think I’m probably talking myself into it but it feels different when you’re the one taking the risk
@roblowe6086
@roblowe6086 11 ай бұрын
Probably best case scenario would be grading as a PSA 8 but I see this getting a PSA 7. Sgc is the smart move. I will be very interested how this turns out for you as I have a PSA 8 pd that I bought for nearly nothing years ago. My opinion overall is just sell as is and in a year or two if you are not in a rush.
@billythekid2215
@billythekid2215 11 ай бұрын
Just take the flip out and white out the PD. Then you have a PSA 9. Id sell as is if Im into the card for 1000-1200. Or, if you paid more than that, Id crack and send to SGC.
@jamesl5352
@jamesl5352 11 ай бұрын
You are in a unique situation. Normal person, like me - sell as is. It is safe, done. You are a content creator. Submit it to SGC, you have a video regardless of the result. It seems like there is more than a 15% chance it comes back less than a 7 if you crack and resubmit to PSA. That's just my opinion.
@kc8767
@kc8767 11 ай бұрын
Regrading will subtract off the profit.
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