Colleen Balinger: YouTube's CREEPIEST Monster...

[@cruelworldhappymind]

This video may have sensitive topics and flashing lights that may be hard to watch for some ✨

[@danielsantiagourtado3430]

Thanks as always! Love your girl! Thanks For everything 🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤❤❤

[@EmilysDismantlingDelulus]

im sorry for all the horrible things you have been through.. but you are supported hugs

[@samegg9572]

Off topic but your dress reminds me of the movie 13 going on 30 and I LOVED THE DRESS SHE WORE it reminds me of candy like sweet tarts or frootrollups just had to let you know 🐞

[@SanketKulkarni10]

*WHY* would you add such annoying cringe background music in this serious video? And the visuals are so unnecessary as well. 🙉

[@bmo14lax]

Im grabbing my tea

[@toxiczombiewolf5692]

Hearing how Johnny spent 6 hours lying to swoop and pretending to be a victim while hurting others and acting inappropriate with kids is fucking wild. Colleen and Johnny are both sick and twisted people.

[@kaitlynmorgan4613]

watching the johnny video was fucking sickening 🧍‍♂️..

[@prettyevil6662000]

And poor Swoop had to listen to him lie and belittle her own abuse experience too. Johnny's a complete monster.

[@emersagro]

I watched Swoop's video where she said she pretty much manipulated her into backing him up online, only for him to latch onto Swoop's platform and reel her into the controversy. It was a crazy video, that i'd strongly suggest watching if you haven't already :)

[@ChristopherSadlowski]

Swoop's video was rough to watch. But! If there's one woman you don't fuck around and find out around it's her. Watching her mercilessly rip him to shreds was delicious...just a shame he had to hurt her in the process. Good Lord these people are absolute garbage.

[@justwonder1404]

I feel for Swoop, the girl's never getting that time back.

[@keavs4564]

Use me as a “I was never a Miranda fan and I’m glad” button (P.S.) Loving the look in this vid, Madison. Appropriate for Colleen’s funeral

[@nerdiwolverine]

I remember being young when she was popular and I always thought she was extremly annoying. Her voice was always very obnoxious to me and something about the way she acted gave me very bad vibes and her content always gave me the ick. Very glad my younger self listened to my gut and stayed away from her content

[@helainanatasha7496]

When I was younger I always felt bad for not liking her content so i used to pretend I did cause EVERYONE around me loved her. She was in the same category as Brent Rivera for me

[@elle.9839]

when i was a kid my friends liked her but i didn't and one day we decided to do a "makeover" and they made me look like miranda sings without telling me (after i tried to do real makeup on them) ... i hated her pettily after that. but tbh i was a hater kid and she annoyed me anyway

[@soappacket2342]

I always thought she was making fun of people like Nichole337. I am glad I always found Miranda to be cringe

[@HuliJinx943]

I didn't know anything about Miranda until I came across a video talking about this drama.

[@VideoGameAutopsy]

I hate how she tries to deflect accountability and blame the victims for her actions. I mean, why on earth does an adult, a GROWN WOMAN, with children of her own, have to be told that it's wrong to talk inappropriately with minors?

[@cruelworldhappymind]

Agreed. So hurtful to tell children they’re in the wrong 😕

[@dawnsherratt2317]

@@cruelworldhappymind please take a look at Jordan Matter

[@Dave102693]

@@cruelworldhappymindand I’m worried for her kids, especially how sexualized her kids on her mommy vlogger channel and how creepy her brother Trent is.

[@belcanto116]

Given Adam and other former fans’ assertions about being bullied for speaking out against her, I imagine there are a lot of tweens and teens who will eventually really, really resent being taken advantage of and weaponized by her. She’s poisoned everyone in her orbit.

[@haybale287]

@@Dave102693 For real. Not to be that person, but considering how weirdo heterosexual people already talk to children about subjects like dating, marriage, and sex when they're like, 3-years-old, I can't imagine the things she'll say to her own children who will grow up thinking her parental behavior is normal because they're told it is. It's sick.

[@phreakzilla8514]

I don’t think it’s fair to call Colleen’s ukelele video “the worst apology ever”. Because it wasn’t an apology in the slightest. I’m honestly not sure what to even call it.

[@saucysacrilegious]

the worst ever

[@megalou6567]

Call it social suicide

[@kms567]

100% agree. She didn't take accountability for ANYTHING and the only thing she apologized for was for not being willing to say she was "100% in the wrong".

[@Wendy_O._Koopa]

I call it, and "apologies" like it _Nonpologies._ And I don't mean to imply that I came up with it, there's literally a Wikipedia page about it, it also suggests "backhanded apology," or "fauxpology," and they all redirect to "Non-apology apology" which I think is redundant. I imagine the unimaginative and redundant one is seen as the default because the other three are constantly being argued about. So all we have to do is all use *_"Nonpology"_* until it becomes the clear favorite.

[@Kookabrah]

A song can't even be an apology.

[@buzzingbeez123]

Thank you for mentioning the ableism of the character of Miranda Sings! As a disabled person myself, the character always felt like it was making fun of disabled people, so I'm glad it's starting to be acknowledged more now as the character has undoubtedly caused harm to many young disabled people.

[@urmamasmamasmama]

Didn’t Colleen say she modeled the character after her autistic relative?🚩🚩🚩

[@alexvalentine5091]

@@urmamasmamasmamaI thought it came out she said she modeled them after “these girls who uploaded videos who thought they could sing” or something similar.

[@a.5326]

​@@alexvalentine5091it was mentioned later that the real reason was because she was mocking her brother, especially when he'd get angry.

[@alexvalentine5091]

@@a.5326 I commented that before it came up in the video and proved me wrong. 🤢

[@miriamhavard7621]

I noticed that immediately. I never had an interest in her content because of it.

[@FeministCatLadySpinster]

It's so weird to me how this situation unfolded. It started out strange, and then just got deeper and deeper.

[@fragilebean6191]

There's so many layers that keep getting revealed, right when we think we figured out all the information a whole new story, and group of victims are revealed. It's honestly so sad !!!

[@JustaHedgehoginSonicBoom]

⁠​⁠@@fragilebean6191it is From the fact that Colleen is grooming children is genuinely disgusting

[@cruelworldhappymind]

It’s a vortex I feel like this past month I’ve been sucked into and it’s truly so sad, dark and scary. I truly hope we never stumble on another situation like this because it’s so upsetting and horrific

[@Dave102693]

@@cruelworldhappymindI hope so too

[@Lucaz99]

@@cruelworldhappymindI pray this is just one unusually mean spirited KZbinr and community but I fear…

[@NotDavDraws]

Condolences to Colleen’s PR team ☠️☠️

[@cruelworldhappymind]

I think they probably quit by now😅

[@katla_phc]

@@cruelworldhappymindI mean most likely yeah, the school year has started and they got busy with other commitments 🙃

[@cityman2312]

Her lawyers all go: "Get that ukulele off her!"

[@DoppelgangerTH]

@@cityman2312 more like "welp, its one of the crazy ones..."

[@clementpoon120]

she's the PR team

[@Dave102693]

Colleen basically operated a child s abuse ring; from Johnny to Rachel’s weird friendship with Jojo Siwa, to Trent’s nonce behavior towards Colleen’s fans and the rabbit hole just gets weirder and weirder.

[@allycat0413]

What i have not heard about Rachel and Jojo…

[@Violettero]

I think she could legit be a pedo.

[@prettyevil6662000]

Birds of a feather...

[@Dave102693]

@@allycat0413they are very close as friends, despite knowing her as a kid..and the vibes are weird too, especially since similar language Colleen used with Siwa are being used by Rachel, but lesbian.

[@MarinaHeath]

Don’t forget Kory 👀

[@sludgeskin]

for trisha to sound more cohesive and rational is insane

[@BeanColored]

That was Patricia then 😂

[@wigglemelon8807]

My Johnny theory: he's infatuated/obsessed with Joshua and hoped they could have some kind of DL relationship. He got close to Colleen simply to add to the fantasy; either because he wanted to be her (the fame, attention, influence and of course, Joshua), or to get the thrill of being close with her while sneaking around with her husband. Joshua wasn't and still isn't at all interested, Johnny got his feelings hurt, now he wants revenge.

[@alysonnance-orr777]

Agreed. Johnny's prime objective was fame, at any cost. He didn't get the attention/fame he wanted from Joshua, so he latched on to the attention that Colleen's victims were garnering in sharing their REAL stories of abuse. He's indeed as vile as Coleen!🤢

[@iliketurtles511]

Seriously same. During his interview he insisted that he wasn’t interested in Josh when he came out to him buuut the way he said it showed he really was.

[@prettyevil6662000]

@@iliketurtles511 It's also the only reason to focus on his coming out story. Because Josh's response to it ("that's none of my business") is completely appropriate for someone in a position of power over someone younger than them. All Johnny's stories about Josh are like that. Johnny does something kind of inappropriate (coming out to your boss is a big why would you?) and then Josh responds appropriately, but Johnny's not happy with it.

[@morrigan909]

100%

[@TheMeloettaful]

You hit the nail on the head 😲! And I was just thinking to myself "why is Johnny so daggum obsessed with Josh?!" It didn't occur to me he might have been infatuated with Josh until you said it. It really does make perfect sense. Now he is out for blood because Josh didn't reciprocate his feelings. It's crap like that that makes me feel so bad for innocent people accused of something they didn't do. Especially if it is something as horrendous as this involving teens & children. How utterly life destroying it can be for the accused if they are indeed innocent.

[@missamber77]

Maybe it's because of my age and the fact that I was 29 the first time I ever saw the "Miranda" character I thought "Is she making fun of the stereotype of a mentally handicapped person? How is this even allowed?" That was 8 damn years ago. I just never understood why there wasn't more outrage about that let alone the fact that it was NEVER child friendly. Who thought she was child friendly? Why?!?

[@Kintsugi23]

Supposedly Colleen has a special needs family member and imitated some of their mannerisms for the Miranda character. Vile.

[@prettyevil6662000]

Same, especially when I saw her then up the ante with some racism thrown in. I was baffled how this persona was okay then and I remain baffled how it's popular now. It shouldn't have taken grooming to get that nonsense canceled.

[@luciferstooth4214]

I never watched Colleen, just clips. These clips are disgusting. I'm not sure how people ever thought she was kid friendly. I'm shocked.

[@j01sonofsleazy]

same reason why ppl think youtube kids is kid friendly, yet there are two elsagate "vortex" surrounding it@@luciferstooth4214

[@missamber77]

@@prettyevil6662000 you are absolutely right.

[@willow8745]

It's crazy how's she's gone so long without getting canceled! Congrats to Adam for speaking up when no one else would. 🥺

[@cruelworldhappymind]

Agreed, and AGREED! 💜

[@Hopeguz3]

The fact he did it in 2020 and it was swept away.

[@Sonnenanbeterin1991]

Wonder why the parents WHO brought the children to her Show didnt complaining on her "Jokes" she did on stage didnt say anything

[@ChristopherSadlowski]

​​@@Hopeguz3eh, you beat me to it.

[@RayBekk]

Probably because she's a woman and people don't think of women as predators. It's pretty wild how messed up it is

[@marymaza2187]

17:33 "If anything I want boys--well MEN," that was one hell of a Freudian slip. You can literally see the moment he catches and corrects himself.

[@crownclowncreations]

And I- oop!

[@twistedelegance_]

This is the stupidity of internet. I also called myself a boy and the guys I'd date boys until I was 30. Britney sings about Boys at her age. Madonna is 100 years old but she's a GIRL gone wild. Janet & Beenie Man sung Feel it BOY at age 40. There's nothing problematic with the word boy. It's just pure stupidity to cling onto a word like that. Regardless of what is or isn't true.

[@a.5326]

​@@twistedelegance_Context really matters.

[@mysticc6232]

​@@twistedelegance_pedo

[@inyourdreams1718]

@@mysticc6232that’s a bold claim 💀

[@Mud.lemons]

Hearing her say “he asked me to send the underwear” I’m just like, even if he did, HES WAS A MINOR, YOUR DONT SEND THAT SHIT TO A MINOR !!!

[@sabinadorothea]

Exactly!

[@july3817]

It’s the same as people in predatory relationships who say stuff like "but they wanted to have sex". A minor might not know what that really means or is not doing this for the appropriate reasons. It’s your job as an adult not to have a relationship with a minor. They can’t psychologically consent to sexual activities. And another related issue is that some people say stuff like "you are very mature for your age". While in some cases, this can be said without any bad implications, in others it might give minors a sense of maturity that they actually don’t have yet. It makes them feel like they could and should partake in "mature decisions/activities" like sex.

[@a.5326]

​​@@july3817Also, some minors come across more mature because they had to grow up quick because of trauma. It can literally age your brain and not in a good way.

[@windwaker407]

Seven month old babies also want to play with shiny kitchen knives. It's almost like kids aren't actually able to know what is good for them and that's why adults aren't supposed to just give it to them just because they want it

[@loretta5653]

I want cake for breakfast, lunch and dinner!

[@legitnessify]

I was groomed from the age of 15 to 18 by my best friend in high school's ,mother. The day I turned 18 she messaged me a sexual message and from then on, her and I had a sexual relationship. She was married the whole time and still is to this day to the same guy. It's something that runs so deep in my mind, that I would say she still has her hooks in me. She still messages me from time to time even today. She still has a very strong hold on me. I am not convinced that she didn't do it to other friend's we had in high school too. She made it out like she was ONLY in love with ME. It's scars that I will carry for the rest of my life. It's caused me to have a very unhealthy relationship with sex. I hate myself and want to die sometimes. So to see someone like Colleen ,who was someone I really liked growing up, come out as a groomer, disgusts me to my very core.

[@Beatmyguest001]

I’m so fucking sorry, that’s absolutely horrendous and completely that woman’s fault, not yours.

[@miriamhavard7621]

I'm sorry that happened to you. You can actually become free. Always know it can get better. Have you gotten therapy? 🌺

[@RetardationAwareness]

You should really tell her husband. It's not fair to him if he doesn't know. Imagine being married and loyal to a cheater for years and years and nobody told you when they knew the whole time. Imagine wasting your entire life on a person who doesn't value you at all. Especially a weirdo that likes young boys. You should tell him, perhaps even anonymously. Maybe she'll know it was you if she truly wasn't messing around with other people, but maybe not. Either way, it's the morally just thing to do. Then, cut off contact if you are worried about being dragged into the fallout. Become unreachable to them if you want. However you decide to go about it, I think that it's extremely important that you let the husband know. You're not a kid anymore, and you know this man is being taken advantage of by a disloyal weirdo. He has the right to know who he really married...

[@pygmymouselemurbutt]

I am so so so sorry for you having to go through this. my husband went through something really similar; he was 14 and she was 20 when it started. it fucked his head and his relationships up for years, he still struggles with it and it's been about 13 years since it ended (and only because the woman who groomed him was murdered by her husband... which my husband blames himself for). I can't imagine how hard it must be for you to deal with her still trying to keep her hooks in you, and I hope you can find peace and healing from this. sending you so much love. 💚

[@saltysushi]

​@EmpressRetard they shouldn't have to be the one carrying this burden. It is easy for anyone who isn't in the situation or was traumatized to say what's correct morally. What they need is to take care of themselves first. It's not as easy to revisit let alone confront a trauma until they are comfortable. So do what is most comfortable for you and do not feel the pressure to do what's "morally correct" when u have been directly ab****. Stay strong and brave and take care fam.

[@bumblingxbee]

Thank you for making sure to bring focus back to Corey Desoto. People seem to forget about this weirdo. Wonderful doc as always ❤

[@cruelworldhappymind]

Thank you so much love 🥺💜

[@Jay-sk2oz]

Can I say. PG-13. 13yr olds are still children. Maybe a bit older and able to think a bit more independently but still children. I felt like this just needed to be pointed out. (That women and all those involved are disgusting and simply terrifying.)

[@j01sonofsleazy]

lemme go like a step further: 18 and 19 are still TEENAGERS (as you _have to_ pronounce those words with "teen")

[@Lucifersfursona]

I cannot stress enough how much 13 year olds are CHILDREN. 13 year olds are children to the extent it’s very troubling when OLDER CHILDREN like 15-17 year olds show interest in them.

[@Jay-sk2oz]

@punkyjewster2350 exactly! It's just honestly all around frightening and disturbing. Being a parent must be so scary. I don't even know if I were a parent how I would react to situation like this. :/

[@theblackbaron4119]

You're considered a child until 21 and even up to the age of 25 your brain hasn't stopped fully developing.

[@szacntrl]

@@theblackbaron4119exactly, you can’t even drink until you’re 21

[@alisawilliams3670]

As Auntie Swoop says “It’s not drama, it’s dangerous”

[@artsyhoodies]

To sum up the whole Colleen situation: When you think it can't get worse, IT JUST GETS WORSE.

[@theblackbaron4119]

Her whole family is helping her groom. It's probably a situation that cannot get worse.

[@myckeli]

The fact that this said it was uploaded 1 min ago when i opened youtube is probably a sign from the universe that i have to watch the whole thing before i to to bed. Thanks for being you, Maddie!

[@cruelworldhappymind]

Aw thank you so much!! I hope you enjoy the video 💜

[@lesliemartin3]

The biggest problem with children watching colleen balanger is that they mimic everything they see. And when there is positive reinforcement behind what they're mimicking it becomes part of their personality. Her sam and labia crap was such an attempt to be similar to Portlandia and SNL skits but it fell so flat that the repetition of the sexual innuendos seemed incredibly desperate.

[@Lucifersfursona]

It’s not just desperate. The way they constantly talk about how much they like “little holes” is so fucking heinous and so clearly predatory.

[@lesliemartin3]

@@Lucifersfursona yeah dude it's super off-putting

[@nerdiwolverine]

The part about children mimicking what they see and how that's applied to this situation is so true. I remember in 6th grade I knew a girl who talked EXACTLY like Miranda Sings. She spoke with the exact same annoying nasally quality that Miranda spoke with and at the time I didn't realize it but looking back she was probably a Miranda fan and was copying her idol

[@lesliemartin3]

@@nerdiwolverine poor girl. She's probably rethinking her entire personality.

[@nerdiwolverine]

@@lesliemartin3 I haven't spoken to her in over 5 years so I'm just hoping it was phase and that she grew out of it

[@Starry_Skye22]

The pedophilla jokes about her "uncle" are just so weird and disgusting. Like I cant imagine being a victim of something like that and seeing Colleen make fun of it. That must be so traumatizing. And then on top of it she has 3 kids now, is that how your brother will be to them ?!?!?! And her brother has done creepy things also. 🤢🤮🤢🤮

[@aidee4186]

And she referred to herself as the "creepy aunt"

[@sourgreendolly7685]

Early KZbin as a CSA survivor could be rough for me. Those kinds of jokes would sometimes come out of no where with creators that I loved up until that point. I don't know if I'd call it traumatic in of itself, but it certainly fed into that feeling of no one caring. I'm in my mid30s now and I feel so seen just by you mentioning that we're out there while people make such horrific trauma the but of jokes and running gags. I'm pretty sure that I've only seen fellow survivors bring it up. So thank you, I appreciate you.

[@kaykaysims9461]

​@@aidee4186That made my mouth drop open. What in the entire hell, that isn't in the slightest funny. In black culture the "creepy uncle" is unfortunately a very common thing, us as young black girls have been told that we needed to cover up because the weird uncle was coming over. I never understood that. Why is he coming over? Then now to hear that she joked about being the creepy aunt 🙃🙃 My brain legit just doesn't comprehend. So many young men think it's cool to sleep with an older woman/have romantic interactions when in all actuality it's predatory behavior on the woman's part. Sorry for the ramble, this just made me so mad.

[@karanaki_3256]

It is absolutely an early defense mechanism that has contorted over time. I could have turned out like her but I got help and was able to process what happened to me.

[@asmrtpop2676]

Oh I absolutely can. Creepy uncle jokes were a staple for a while. Were they ever ok? No. But victims have been subjected to that for a few decades now, yall :/

[@randomtology]

I'm just gonna point out that a common narrative with the old guard youtubers was that they were unpopular/lonely folks who turned to making youtube videos in their downtime. With the sheer number of these old guard youtubers turning out to be total toxic a-holes....starting to wonder if we should've questioned more WHY they were unpopular in their RLs.

[@NotebookTheCat]

Yeah, though some people are unpopular because they are queer or don't have many friends. It's not a good judgment of character in itself. They're still assholes anyway

[@july3817]

You know you might have a point. But even if they were genuinely just quiet kids, suddenly having a following of millions will do stuff to you if you were the unpopular one before.

[@entertainmentoptimist8895]

@@july3817 This. Both points are right. It appears to be especially true for comedians because if you are used to making a fool of yourself to get attention then you aren't afraid to push boundaries. This can be a good thing or a bad thing depending on which boundaries you push.

[@AKbaby89]

Im a DV/R/SA survivor, and i honestly dont know if ill ever not be mad about what Johnny said about DV&SA survivors. What he said about survivors shows that he has no trauma.

[@Lucifersfursona]

*_what he said about survivors shows that he has no trauma._*

[@ccdaly2561]

I don't trust a damn word out of Johnny's mouth. The way he belittled Swoop, Adam, and others is unconscionable.

[@alysonnance-orr777]

I love how Swoop professionally & quickly dispelled Johnny's discrepancies in his story & completely outed him for the shady shit-hook he is.

[@Hinata8778]

He said "fucked around and found out" and Swoop said oh? Let me turn that around and let you fuck around and find out, and I love that

[@ryanne1456]

The amount of people that have been exposed as predators throughout colleen's cancelation is unfathomable... i don't know how this was excused for so long. colleen seems to have displayed this behavior for so long but that's what happens when you have a ton of influence and no one stopping you.

[@ryanne1456]

the amount of victims who tried to repeatedly come out just to be told they're liars is so sad, my heart goes out to them.

[@hypatiakovalevskayasklodow9195]

Similar people converge together...They have a sense for who can be a victim and who would agree with behaviour

[@Dave102693]

@@hypatiakovalevskayasklodow9195Epstein’s inner circle

[@priscillao1064]

This might be a reach but I truly think it has to do with her being a woman. Misogyny leads us to believe women are too weak to truly harm people, leaving a lot of people who have been victimized by women without care and support.

[@aethertoast4320]

​@priscillao1064 no, you aren't out of line with this thought. This is all exactly how it stayed under the radar for so long.

[@lovelylola28]

My sister and I were commenting on how many layers and characters there are to this story. I'm glad you made a video on that aspect because it shows this behavior influences so maaaany people.

[@cruelworldhappymind]

Thank you so much! I completely agree- you couldn’t have said it any better 🩷

[@phreakzilla8514]

How did all these parents and sponsors let this go on for A DAMN DECADE before anyone said anything publicly?!? She wasn’t even hiding most of it!

[@Lucifersfursona]

KZbin is famous across multiple owners for protecting (not ignoring. Protecting, aiding, shielding, platforming) child predators. They know. The kids that spend 14 hours a day watching watching groomer shit from onision to elsagate animations, and that generates revenue for youtube. That is the most neutral reason I can think of as to why they have protected and platformed (and continue to platform) so many predators with not just allegations but (legally still alleged in many cases but like. Come on) documented media of their abuses towards children. Parents who teach with shame and guilt, especially around things like sex (if a kid doesn’t know their own body and boundaries and what sex even is, it’s a lot easier for a predator to gain access to all of those things) are not going to be trusted by their kids when horrible things happen to or are happening to them. Unfortunately many parents like to make a big stink about protecting their kids from grooming and predation, while they ignore how it works, where it starts, and why it works. Others have spoken about this in the past as well, from Colleen’s era of KZbin predators, how the content these adults made left them vulnerable to predation in their real lives; and irl most csa occurs between family members or trusted adults of the family; adults the child knows. The least evil reason youtube could be protecting child predators is the cold banality of number go up. it goes downhill from there.

[@cottage-core_]

she weoponized her Fandom to attack anyone whi called her out

[@TheAntlionGuard]

The power of an oblivious child audience

[@cherylreaves253]

That’s exactly what I thought. Where the hell were the parents? I know you can’t monitor everything, but this Miranda persona was just plain weird.

[@sita9071]

The same reason why The Labrant family still has a platform: oblivious little kids and hateful adults.

[@rowanlavellan9755]

I have to say, I've found Trisha to be weirdly more mature and reasonable as the years go on. For what little it's worth, I'm proud of her for trying to improve, and I felt so relieved to see her empathy for Adam. Trisha seems like a true ride-or-die, and unfortunately it seems like many of her 'friends' haven't deserved that.

[@muskalade85]

Well, she's 35 so lol. And she's still a terrible person. But yea, I'm proud of her for trying to be a little less terrible 😂

[@rowanlavellan9755]

@@muskalade85 Listen...lol. 🤣 I've known a lot of people in their 70s and 80s who refused to be introspective, grow up, and be reasonable, so I'm just trying to recognize when people DO seem to be trying.

[@isthiscereallife]

Unfortunately people with BPD have their loyalty taken advantage of by shitty people... a lot.

[@sita9071]

​@rowanlavellan9755 I work in hospitality. The amount of middle-aged and old people I've seen act like five-year-olds is just sad.

[@kaesijoo444]

this has got so many layers to it oh my god. just when you thought it was over, there's more

[@cruelworldhappymind]

Truly… mentally it wasn’t healthy for me, I almost found myself in a paranoid headspace wondering how much more there was going to be to the story. It’s so sad and dark 😕

[@GetElevatedWithMe]

@@cruelworldhappymindplease take extra care of yourself honey ❤ it must be so incredibly draining and taxing. I truly can’t imagine. Sending you good vibes

[@LakeofCrystalclan]

“It’s not drama, it’s dangerous.” ~SWOOP Regardless, watching all of it unfold in real time was a feverdrean.

[@hypatiakovalevskayasklodow9195]

@@LakeofCrystalclantrue

[@kaesijoo444]

@@cruelworldhappymind it is truly sad and dark. hope you're taking care of yourself.

[@taliaa-444]

This is one of those situations where you’re like “it simply can’t get worse.. right?” WRONG. It kept getting worse as more and more things resurfaced and came out…. I don’t see how she possibly thought she had a chance to bounce back, especially by proceeding to release a horrible “apology” as a song.

[@amandamandamands]

Unfortunately James Charles and Shane Dawson have shown us that you take a small break and you can then come back like nothing has happened. iilluminaughtii is still posting and so is the Ballinger Family though both their views have plummeted. Rachel is still posting like normal across her different channels but has pivoted her podcast topic to being positivity.

[@kimbewwy]

this is probably the 20th video i’ve seen regarding the current aftermath of the colleen apology + johnny (as well as swoop’s 4 hour expose video and adam’s followups) and you are still able to offer perspectives that i have not considered especially when it came to kory. it’s beyond belief that it has got to this point as a response to years of overlooking such cruel and disgusting behaviors but i’m so happy these victims are finally receiving the compassion, empathy, and support they deserve. thank you for another amazing video 🩵

[@alysonnance-orr777]

Very well said!!!💞

[@stephanieknapp1217]

Honestly, Colleen’s content is really creepy for adults to watch. The fact that it was directed to children makes it more disturbing.

[@levi1929]

If I live 1,000 lifetimes, I hope I never do something which spurs a creator to photoshop me in the gutter like Pennywise. That was devastating. Colleen is devastated right now.

[@llewelynshingler2173]

I hope she is

[@xonlyy0u]

As she should be

[@miriamhavard7621]

Possibly not.

[@Paratet]

Just compare how Josh responded to Johnny's tenuous claims to how Colleen responded to very credible, provable accusations. Josh was incredibly contrite and took full accountability for any inadvertent harm he caused. Colleen just shifted blame onto parents and victims.

[@BlueCyann]

As someone who's a generation older than most people here, i will never understand this "took accountability" business. What does that even mean to people these days, aside from "apologizing profusely and with a total lack of defensiveness"? I would have still been as much on his side if his reaction was along the lines of "I never did a thing to you that was inappropriate, and screw you for slandering me". Forgot to add: though I do find his ability to remain so nondefensive admirable in a way, he also seems to have completely misconstrued what Johnny was accusing him of, and never actually addressed any suggestion of grooming, per se. Which accusations are far far worse, and likely far more difficult to remain calm about, than accusations of being a lousy mentor.

[@ilonamagny4339]

@@BlueCyann I believe "taking accountability" involves at the very least questioning your own behaviour and admitting when you've fucked up. Putting yourself in the other person's shoes and examining how your actions could have affected them, even inadvertently. Ya know, having basic empathy and acknowledging your mistakes instead of denying, accusing and minimizing 🤷 I don't think it's unreasonable to ask of an adult who is a public figure and in close contact with kids.

[@lemnlyme]

idc how many videos on this topic come out, i will watch every single one of them. the victims stories deserve to be heard and boosted

[@adrianodrika]

I agree. Colleen and Blair (Illuminaughty) are my obsessions nowadays. And the amount of research is something else.

[@teatalkwithsha6159]

If this situation has taught us anything it is we have to supervise our kids. There are so many unassuming predators out there

[@silvertiger684]

America has never done a good job of protecting their kids, like ever

[@Lucifersfursona]

Educate them about healthy sexuality, personal autonomy, boundaries and consent. If you teach a kid that all sex is evil, including consensual sex, and yo don’t tell them what it is or what to watch out for, but shame and guilt them for either natural self exploration, or god forbid being preyed on by a peer or *_adult,_* they are going to be an optimal target for predators. Kids do not know everything you know or think you know. They’re not secretly imbued with your morals. They do not know what sex is. Young children do not know what sex is, if they do, something has potentially gone very very wrong, and you need to take care of them and help them and believe them. Your child’s bodily autonomy and individual self experiences should not be a problem for you. Worry about your kids being attracted to literal animals and children of developmentally different ages, or wanting their bodies to stop existing instead of being some sort of shape you think you didn’t sign up for when you hopefully chose to create a human being. A child raised to think they are at fault for adult predators when that is never their fault and children _cannot_ cause predatory relationships, and that safe, consensual sex between people of age in healthy power dynamics is as disturbing and evil as the adult that wants to consume their underage body, is being left out in the dark by their families. They do not deserve it. I don’t care what you think you’re doing or what happened to you or what any organization or entity says. Bring your child the fuck inside.

[@Dave102693]

@@Lucifersfursonaso many adults are heavily against teaching kids comprehensive sex ed, of all genders and sexualities. It makes my head hurt.

[@thetruebadevil]

@@Lucifersfursona bro it was my parents giving me the smallest amount of sex ed talk that probably saved me from being coerced into a sex rp when I was younger on a game. I knew what the “no-no square” was and to never 1. Be touched there or 2. Touch someone there. If that smallest abt of something that is like barely sex ed helped me, imagine what proper education would do to help victims protect themselves.

[@josephmatthews7698]

Well yeah but we can't expect parents to helicopter their child either, that creates crappy kids and even worse adults. We really need to focus on keeping predators out of children's spaces and creating safe spaces for children to interact and explore without being preyed upon by bad actors.

[@Gustoberg]

the fact that Trisha paytas of all people were a victim of Coleen really was the plot twist of the decade

[@gretchenbaker7435]

Of course it's been said if she was an older man messaging children "are you a virgin?"and other inappropriate stuff it probably would hit harder but she's just as creepy and using her gender as defense saying " m a creepy aunt" she needs to realize there are "creepy aunt" offenders too. I'm pleased you had such a flattering photo of Runckle! He's a gem

[@a.5326]

And those creepy aunts are under reported for that very reason, female predators in general.

[@BoDray]

Wow... she is so monstrous even the grifters riding her coattails are monsters

[@cruelworldhappymind]

Yeah.. that seems to be exactly the case 😕

[@Dave102693]

@@cruelworldhappymindshe basically made a sa ring

[@DragonEmperorMycen]

I’d compare her to Mother of Monsters archetypal goddesses but that would also be insulting those goddesses so I shall refrain.

[@fragilebean6191]

I knewww you were gonna be uploading something the second I saw the Johnny stuff come out. This situation is so sad and just insane.

[@cruelworldhappymind]

It’s a dark twist none of us were expecting. I feel heartbroken for the people who trusted him 😕

[@fragilebean6191]

⁠@@cruelworldhappymindI couldn't imagine how Itd feel to be one of the victims too watching this all unfold! I'm glad this came out though, and we're able to hold him accountable

[@Elochuga]

The fact theres 2 video on her on this channel just shows how horrible she was

[@fragilebean6191]

FOR REAL

[@OddMavis]

Lol so true!

[@cruelworldhappymind]

Yeah… I normally don’t like to do two videos on a given subject, but found it necessary as this situation unfolded, as it got more and more horrible and I found things that were more and more horrific

[@lizzuniga2064]

A lot of the Colleen videos from commentary channels are hours long, some channels even have a series for her. 😭 The stuff with her goes scary deep and is seemingly never ending.

[@danielsantiagourtado3430]

​@@cruelworldhappymindWe commend You and thanks You! You're one of a kind🎉🎉🎉🎉🎉❤❤❤❤❤❤

[@CrypticGhosTea]

I remember being a freshman in 2014, new girl at school, and everyone asked if I knew who “Miranda Sings” was because I, was a girl named Miranda in our choir. Fast forward -> 9 years later, and I’m sitting on one of those same friends couch watching in horror as Colleen brought out her ukulele. She had just posted the non-apology and we were so interested to see what she would say. The way this story has unfolded has been an INSANE ride, and a bone-chilling realization that we as a society need to be so, so, so vigilant about what our children are consuming - and be willing to have conversations with our kids about the dangers of the internet. GREAT work on this video, Maddie! I recently found your channel after your post about Blair and have been keeping my eye on your channel. You do such great, kind-hearted takes on these issues - I have such a respect for you!

[@prettyevil6662000]

I'm glad you included that grooming can happen to adults. Being an adult does not suddenly make you invulnerable. Grooming is how abusers pick their victims. If you are vulnerable, if you've ever been in an abusive relationship in the past, if you have come from an abusive household, it's even more important to be aware of the signs so you can avoid these people.

[@techne360]

I love how all your videos have just gotten more and more well made.

[@cruelworldhappymind]

Thank you so much! My recent videos are a credit to my team, who I list at the beginning of each video!! 🥰 I always want to improve the level of production and could never have gotten to this level without them 💜

[@meaverly]

yes! everyone is super talented and seem to really get the aesthetics of the channel without detracting from the seriousness of the subjects. love it

[@terrence_zone]

Retweet. The opening legit spooked me

[@foreverstrangeandunusual]

is it weird that I love deep dives? forget 15 minute synopsis.. give me ALL the details! 6 hours long? that's cool..I'm here for it.

[@FabiolaRVela]

I love it too!

[@foreverstrangeandunusual]

okay, now that I finished it - wow! what an amazing job, it also looked so fun and pretty and colorful! (like the you part, not the colleen part)

[@Saphia_]

Exactly my view. One, I like to put these videos on as background noise as I do various stuff I need to to. Two, I'd rather have full and detailed account of any topic rather than a 15 min video that doesn't touch on anything interesting or important.

[@olexvndrv]

@@Saphia_ Eeeexaaaactly!!

[@july3817]

I even like to watch them about people I’ve never heard before. Like tell me everything bad this person I don’t know did

[@FabiolaRVela]

This video is so well put together! 👏. The more I think about it, the more I’m convinced that Johnnys obsession with Joshua was a result of him misinterpreting the reason why Josh gave him his number… I think John perceived that as a romantic or flirty gesture of some sort, and developed a romantic interest in Joshua. He then came out to him and was disappointed at Joshua’s reaction… and then once Josh “ghosted him” he started having a vendetta. He does come off as a scorned lover, like so many have pointed out. He’s even randomly mentioned how attractive Joshua is.. John is butthurt Joshua didn’t want him romantically… that’s my theory anyway. He also seems to want to be famous so badly , he’s willing to lie about such serious things😅…

[@Dave102693]

Facts and that’s why Josh shouldn’t of given him his phone number.

[@Saphia_]

Also John mentioning that he doesn't have a crush on Joshua or anything out of the blue when most people wouldn't even think about that if they didn't have a crush on the person being mentioned.

[@escapedgoat5865]

I want to give the parents the benefit of the doubt, that when they bought tickets for her show, they had no idea about this woman.

[@ravenID429]

But how did they not take their kids and leave??

[@escapedgoat5865]

@@ravenID429 idk.

[@july3817]

@@ravenID429 honestly I could very well believe they didn’t want their child to be upset and causing a scene. Maybe they also hoped it would get less awkward.

[@WynneL]

I wish we could all agree and understand that Ballinger NEVER apologized. There was no apology, *period.*

[@crazykirishark1016]

My heart truly goes out to all the victims in this situation- this just keeps unfolding into something even more sinister. I hope y’all are doing okay!

[@cruelworldhappymind]

AGREED! Especially in situations where their voices were taken from them 😕

[@thegameplayer125]

blair: nobody can rival me as the most disturbed youtuber of 2023 colleen: hold my beer

[@alysonnance-orr777]

😂

[@thekornreeper]

Exactly lol

[@hypatiakovalevskayasklodow9195]

Iilluminathii: but wait I can also be a perv! and with a crypto farm!

[@veronicasawyer7555]

The only thing you missed is when Adam first came out with that original video exposing Colleen, in which he was still only 17, nobody believed him. He got so much hate from the internet cuz this was one of the first few reallyy bad things ever really said about Colleen and her massive fan base didn’t want to believe the truth. Colleen responded with her first nonpology video, “addressing everything” where she basically just excused her behavior, downplayed the entire situation and manipulated her audience into believing she would never be inappropriate with fans and that she’s just quirky and weird and everything gets misinterpreted. All while behind the scenes Colleen would purposefully have other fans that she’d also groomed send Adam hate and would talk shit about him in the group chats relentlessly to try to shut him up and turn the narrative in her favor. The really sad thing is this kind of behavior didn’t start when Adam made the video, didn’t start when the public began to turn on Colleen, didn’t even start when she was going through her divorce. Colleen has ALWAYS been mean and nasty and vile and will talk shit about anyone and everyone she’s ever met because she truly believes she’s above everyone. She has literally said, ON TV, that she would say mean and nasty things that she actually believed as Miranda because she could get away with it. There’s a reason Shane Dawson is one of the few other KZbinrs that still likes her, he even outed her as basically the biggest shit talker he’s ever met and said that all they do is say mean shit about other people once they’re together. She really is just a terrible, awful fucking human being.

[@prettyevil6662000]

I really want to know how the parents of the kids let them keep watching after taking her to live shows. Or how they allowed their daughter to stand on stage getting shamed as being dressed like porn for wearing a dress or crop top. Because if someone said that to my friend, let alone my underage child, I'd be storming the stage.

[@FarkleBeans]

The PG-13 thing always annoyed me so bad. It's a rating she gave , so it has no meaning. At shows, she's not calling parents on stage, she's calling children. She's not in group chats with adult fans, it's children. So, if you want to call your own work PG-13, don't interact with the little kids. Also, maybe recognize that 13 is still a plenty inappropriate age for a lot of your actions. I don't get it.

[@a.5326]

There's no fucking way I'm ever going to "befriend" someone under the age of 18. I'm also in my 30s. Hell, being close friends with an 18yo still sounds weird to me.

[@bapsbaby6441]

The way it seems like everyone around Colleen seems to be just as much a monster as her is terrifying. And Adam kept getting used by not only Colleen but Kody, Kory and Johnny and so many of Colleen’s people.

[@albertosusy1649]

You know its weird, but I never even heard of Coleen until her apology blew up. Like NEVER.

[@llewelynshingler2173]

Streisand Effect.

[@vercoda9997]

If it makes you feel any better, I've heard of precisely Zero people in this video (or Any of these videos). Although, as a 51 year old guy, I'm not exactly the target audience for whoever all these KZbinrs etc etc are. They generally seem pretty repellent people though, from what I can gleam from videos like this, but I, firstly, haven't seen that apology either, and secondly, hadn't heard of Any of these people until 20 minutes ago, when I whacked this on when I got home from work, late, as a long video to run while I get something to eat etc. I'm glad I'm not a young American (or anyone) who might for a second fall under the influence of these awful people, whose videos (which I only see in long exposés like this) are absolute cringe, as my nephews and nieces would say - but I do grasp that I'm decades outside their target audience, and actual grown-ups like me are utterly impervious to the shite and manipulation they're peddling at kids and vulnerable young people. I'll watch the rest of this video as I eat and tidy up etc - but I dare say I'll never, ever think of, or remember, Any of these people ever again, even the villain of this video. And that's fine.

[@MsCutielover]

The fact that this whole situation has gone on for years and no one realized what was happening until now is insane to me. She should have had consequences years ago. Also loved the clown analogy it perfectly fits.

[@Hinata8778]

I've kept defending Trisha in this situation simply because no one deserves to be betrayed by someone you thought were your friend like that, and I could write a long comment about it as I sympathize with a lot of it, but that would be annoying so I won't. What really broke my heart was when she apologized to Adam for the trauma she caused, aka her pictures being sent without her consent, and how Adam was so fast in shutting that down and saying that it's not her fault. Because it isn't, and no matter what, she shouldn't have to feel like it is. In this specific situation, Trisha is a victim on her own, and we shouldn't treat her like the villain she has been in other situations.

[@meghaghosh2545]

Update a month later: nothing has changed. Her apology video has more than 15 million views and comments section filled with plethora of her supporters applauding her actions, blaming the children, their parents for everything and saying how cancel culture is bad. These people aren't going anywhere. Just like when everyone thought Jeffrey star, james charles, shane dawson's careers are over but they're still here.

[@sita9071]

It also doesn't help that Jojo Siwa, someone with a big platform that mainly targeted kids, supports Colleen and chalked up all of this to "internet rumors and drama."

[@Otchacha2]

I usually dont post but this content hits home. In 2006-2007 I was making actual content for youtube. It was low production comedy (still is) but completely original and had a core fan base. I watched channels like miranda rise and thought it was cool that fellow dorks making goofy comedy videos at home had an audience. I left yt for a doctorate in neuroscience in 2007 and would occasionally make content in the 2010s. The environment was awful. So negative. Now, in 2023, I'm binging these channels that do deep dives on some of the creators from the early days who I saw rise but later turned out to be just terrible people and on creators from the 2010s who made hate content. It's not just the damage these individuals caused to other individuals but a whole toxicity that became rampant because of just not good people. A generation that grew up or matured during this reign of toxicity and predatory behavior. But most of them came out ok. Well once the frontal lobes kick in in adulthood they will be. It's just really fascinating to me. If you are a genuinely good person, it will come out. If you are amoral, it will come out. All of these platform idols - the truth comes out. The same cannot be said for larger celebrities. It's just interesting. By the way, Cruel World, I love the long videos and greatly appreciate the work you put in. I usually watch and comment from a different account but am a big fan.

[@hypatiakovalevskayasklodow9195]

wow a doctorate in neuro science?? 😮

[@Otchacha2]

1:26:32 like this. This is absolutely disgusting. Belief that this is ok and an inability to understand how awful it is? That will come to light on these platforms.

[@perspgold8945]

​@@Otchacha2vile. this and physical trait attacks. vile.

[@Otchacha2]

​@hypatiakovalevskayasklodow9195 yeah and my dissertation was on Down syndrome which just makes Colleen that much more disgusting. Like if anyone accused me of making fun of a disabled person, I would be MORTIFIED. And she just uses developmental disability as a muse. I don't get it. I just don't get the thinking of some of these people. I mean, I guess we all don't get it and that's why we watch these.

[@hypatiakovalevskayasklodow9195]

@@Otchacha2 tl;dr: you have a noble calling Wow that’s noble work! I’m just so impressed with your choice of research! I also have this hypothesis, if you’re a moral person or amoral, it will show eventually. There’s people who get abused and think abuse is okay and then there’s us who think “i never want for this to happen someone else and i’ll do anything for that”. Power reveals. My father is someone who often offends mentally disabled people and it hurts me so much,i just can’t believe how he thinks he’s a good person! And I have a sister from my aunt who has Down syndrome .He grew up spoiled. Colleen got alot of money and a platform. Some people are just entitled and it shows. I wouldn’t be surprised if Colleen actually believes she is the victim

[@Cyntaria]

You have just validated my grooming experience. Most people invalidate me because I was 17 when it started, over the legal age of consent where I am, appeared to love him and was just stupid to stay with him for 5 years, let him isolate me and accumulate debt because of him. It's been almost 2 years since I left and I'm the most me I've been in years but still have a long way to go in recovering from it.

[@reagancaraway4849]

The worse part is that Jojo has consistently defended Colleen and stayed friends with her throughout all these years. She doesn’t even realize the grooming that was probably done.

[@transmascsrreal]

“my pr team advised me not to say anything, but they never said i couldn’t SING about it” is giving the same energy as that “i’m not touching you” scene from lilo and stitch

[@veronicasawyer7555]

The thing that really gets me, is the amount of creeps that probably went to Colleen’s shows or even waited outside due to the insane amount of children that are ALWAYS there. The whole thing is just gross

[@mariac4127]

Madison comparing Colleen to pennywise the clown in the first five minutes of this video gave me so much serotonin

[@timothytorigian7932]

Your editing has improved so much! You're editing is starting to remind me of J Aubrey, which I hope you take as high praise. Kudos.

[@bodishmosherson]

Seriously, the quality of your videos has improved so much! Your content has always been great and well researched, but the vehicle for it has been getting better and better 😊

[@sourgreendolly7685]

+

[@timothytorigian7932]

​@HadenBlake is that what someone said about her?

[@Adorablepizza146]

@@timothytorigian7932yes. It was Illuminati/Blair that said that

[@karacoconutag]

The production value and editing just keeps getting better and better every video! 💯

[@arcadiabutterfly]

you’re probably my favorite youtuber who does long-format deep dives. i can tell you and your team put loads of effort into these videos and i greatly appreciate it!!

[@alexandrahoward3686]

The fact that she cultivated such a wide open space for blatant abuse and grooming actually frightens me. I'd love to say that we're lucky this didn't go any further, but we have no idea what other abuses went on behind the scenes. And if they didn't, I really feel like it was only a matter of time.

[@jennifer_moss]

I RAN here when I saw the notification 🏃🏻‍♀️💨 I was hoping you'd cover all this! ❤

[@cruelworldhappymind]

Welcome to the early club love! I hope you enjoy the video, there’s so much to cover I hope I do it justice 💜

[@mothRequiem]

as a victim of grooming, i really, really appreciate the research you did and shared with your audience in this video.

[@Ryemoon062]

Colleen's Response (Not calling it an apology because it isn't.) has to be the most painful response i think almost the whole world has heard. A woman in her 30s, responding to serious terms with a stupid musical number.

[@selkie4084]

It's mind-blowing to me how people glossed over Adam when he first came out about her creepy behavior and easily dismissed her actions as "a mistake". An adult woman sending a teenager LINGERIE??? Her first apology video wasn't one, and everyone in the comment sections there were vile with how easily they excused her behavior. It's also shocking to see how many adults sweep past this until two years later when more things are revealed. I feel so terrible for Adam. I hope he's doing better now.

[@Hopeguz3]

Thank you for bringing up Corey Desoto because I was curious about him. He seemed until now riding under the radar. The layers this goes is crazy. Why she and Corey hasn’t been charged is pretty wild to me. Thank you for this doc.

[@Lucifersfursona]

Adam posted a new video on Corey. Massive TW for sam and labia clips in the video.

[@kookootrix1978]

Sam and Labia vids 😨😨😨. Can't believe those vids have been public for years and marketed to children!!! Soooo gross and nasty!!!

[@Lookinassmalcolm]

I love the new background 😍😍 how futuristic. Your quality just increases every video and it doesn’t go unnoticed !

[@SierraTibbetts]

I was a late teen when those Sam & Labia videos came out and they were honestly super similar to what me and my similar aged theater kid friends were making for videos. I canNOT imagine how I, a now late 20s woman, could make things that explicit and show it to children/young adults. And as someone who became super grossed out by her Covid behavior and would sometime hate watch her vlogs in 2020, I'm very glad all her victims are finally sharing their stories and her true nature is out in the open.

[@xonlyy0u]

What did she do during covid?

[@annieg202]

He probably confessed that he was in those group chats with minors in his "6-hour" interview with Swoop, because I bet that man would google his name to see what was being said about him. And he hoped that he would be able to manipulate Swoop into clearing his name

[@Dave102693]

Yet Johnny dug his own grave instead

[@Teifling]

Man, I honestly went from never knowing who she was to wondering How the Hell Netflix picked her up for child entertainment and not look at her body of work.

[@cherylreaves253]

Sorry, but what I’ve seen of Johnny, he creeps me out. I didn’t find him sincere at all. On the other hand, I did find Joshua sincere and felt bad for him. I think one of the big lessons here, parents really need to keep an eye on their kid’s online presence. I did with mine and the internet back then was nothing to the monster it’s now become.

[@Ruosteinenknight]

He's pretty full of himself. If you watch SWOOPs interview of him, you can see she's getting progressively more frustrated and angrier with Johnny running circles and refusing to give a straight answer, but Johnny doesn't even notice it because he's so smitten with his own performance.

[@JustaHedgehoginSonicBoom]

“When you become friends with groomers, you become one.” -Me

[@cruelworldhappymind]

Well said 🙌

[@melissamoonchild9216]

I mean, not necessarily. Obviously its not a good look, and I get the 'birds of a feather' mentalility but its still a false equivalency.

[@Marlaina]

You might not become one but you have a higher chance of being complicit in their misdeeds through your silence of the situation you know about or becoming involved even in the tiniest detail.

[@luizm-s9t]

The editing is so spot on that it almost became a nightmare fuel (especially the intro). Props to the editors!

[@miriamhavard7621]

........yes.

[@goblin-alley]

girl, not colleen as PENNYWISE. i love you. edit: you know you're (allegedly) a trash person when even a brand as scummy and harmful as BetterHelp won't associate with you.

[@roselynroy]

​@Jack-px8lf it can out that they were hiring non-therapists to work as therapists for the app also it tends to be more expensive then real therapy. There are vids on why they are so bad if u wanna know more cus there's a lot more then that

[@Lucifersfursona]

@Jack-px8lf they had a series of concerning and dangerous scandals a couple years back right after they’d launched; and whether or not they’ve actually fixed those problems has murky transparency; they’re getting more positive reviews now, but it makes perfect sense there are people who don’t want others to have the same bad experiences they did, and don’t want to give the service another chance after it took their money and put them into contact with harmful people.

[@cicelyamelia]

@Jack-px8lfthe concept of BetterHelp has never been the issue - I mean, making therapy more accessible by offering so many different options? Sounds great. But having unqualified people, unprofessionalism on a massive scale, false advertising of therapists, and so many other things, makes it a bad platform

[@fyre9123]

I'm actually incredibly worried for Colleen's child... like, what home environment did SHE experience to normalize all this "odd" behavior? We know at least some of her relatives (definitely her siblings) think that her antics & career constitute "acceptable" behavior. Everyone involved KNOWS her audience is comprised of mainly very young children and teens - yet they're completely fine with the abundance of sexual content... the incestuous innuendos! I wonder if she actually experienced an "uncle" (or some other relative/family friend) as described in her skits... I hope she doesn't expose her own child to any of that. Ugh, it's beyond infuriating how many other kids she's exposed to that shit, many of whom now may be desensitized to pedophilic behaviors. She should be prosecuted as one and be registered as a sex offender for her own interactions with fans - let alone all those she's put in danger by normalizing it. She's just an all around disgusting individual. A true bigot with no humility and absolutely no respect for anyone else. Her brother should be required to register as an offender as well, despite his disability, considering he understood his actions were wrong and proceeded anyway. A disability is not an excuse, in fact it makes me wonder if he too may have been a victim of abuse since those with disabilities are often targets... if so, did Collen know and integrate THAT into Miranda too (like she did the tantrums? - she seems like enough of a sociopath to do something like that).

[@Hezabelle77]

JoJo breaks my heart. That child has been exploited since birth. I really don't want to see another disney darling go down in flames, simply because they've never lived in the real world and can't discern friend from foe. Bynes, Spears, Culkin, Lohan... so sad.

[@EllaJay]

Lohan and Culkin are success stories, they overcame their problems. Hopefully JoJo doesn't have to go through anything to overcome but I hate to say it, I can't think of one child star that didn't have a meltdown.. It's kind of inevitable. Fingers crossed she breaks the cycle.

[@MarcWooten]

An unexpected 2 1/2 hour CWHM is like an Amazon package on your doorstep you don't remember ordering.

[@rivertoepler8526]

I recently realized that I was groomed in retrospect. That trauma of knowing that he was my only and best friend for years, that he knew that, and that he still kept that “friendship” with me for the sole reason of pictures that he knew (bc I told him) I was extremely uncomfortable, just destroys me. This really affects ppl. It rlly rlly does.

[@justme0910]

Just a little thing: I've noticed that a lot of people use the term "parasocial relationship" to describe exploitative dynamics between influencers and their fans, and while it's not wrong per se, it's a bit misleading. Parasocial relationships aren't a bad thing. They're a totally normal part of the human experience. EVERYONE develops parasocial relationships, be it with traditional celebrities, online content creators, or fictional characters. That's fine, and even desirable in many cases, because those one-sided relationships can be very positive and inspiring and help us become more empathetic towards other people, especially people who aren't like us. Parasocial relationships only become problematic when boundaries are not being upheld by at least one side. Fans can become pushy, entitled, overprotective, aggressive or resentful, leading to harassment, bullying, and even stalking behavior direct towards their idol, people in said idol's personal life, or detractors like critics or perceived "rivals". And of course, there are those celebrities, influencers, artists and content creators who decide to use the sway they have over their fans for their own personal and/or financial gain (which is what Colleen did). There really needs to be a specific term to describe that last dynamic. I've seen "parasocial grooming" used in cases like the Colleen Ballinger, BoyInABand and Lily Orchard situations, but that one only covers the personal angle, not the scams and predatory advertising that are rampant among influencers.

[@arthurb6200]

Of all the kid friendly online spaces, and I recognise KZbin is actively managing the content in the kids app (to some degree) - the KZbin kids app is absolute smut. It’s low effort, sometimes weird, algorithm challenges for the creators, and kids eat it up. But as a parent there’s no educational value. I would rather just put some scooby doo or paw patrol clips on normal KZbin while I keep an eye on my child.

[@AS-zz2ke]

Colleen, her family and the people around her are freaking weird omg. I remember watching her first birth video a few years ago and felt uncomfortable with the way they talked to each other and young members of the family. No filter or boundaries whatsoever. But I also thought I might be too sensitive here because I am just an extremely private person even though it is much more normal in my culture to share a lot with family than it is in the US. But looking at what has come out about Colleen and the people around her, I feel justified in my gut feeling tbh. If I were authorities, I would look into them fr.

[@emilylarsen3380]

perfect timing! was just looking for something to watch while i fold this massive pile of laundry 😂

[@fragilebean6191]

Me bedazzling stuff rn😂😂

[@cruelworldhappymind]

OMG I have a massive pile of laundry I’ve been procrastinating putting away atm 😅

[@emilylarsen3380]

@@cruelworldhappymindi decided to paint my nails instead lol whoopsies!

[@Brooklyntrash]

Colleen deserves to wake one morning and - like a character from “The Twilight Zone” - find out she irreversibly and permanently looks like Miranda Sings.

[@DNDragonmare1]

I know this is off-topic, and I've been made fun of this before, but grooming is a process that can be done completely online as well. It's usually done in mmorpgs and mass multiplayer games to young children. From my personal experience, I was convinced to send my groomer photos of myself, and the "s*x" involved online roleplay and phone calls educating me on masturbation techniques. This happened for 3 years. I thought we were in love... and he constantly promised to visit me someday. But I now realize just how messed up my past was. I was 12 at the time, and he was 23.

[@rollforapples6625]

Between Gabbie Hanna, Shane Dawson, Tana Mongeau and Colleen Balinger, it feels like Escape the Night's only okay contestents are Tyler, Mat Pat, Rosanna Pansino, and Safiya Nygard. Who else from that show is going to be exposed for being problematic?

[@LadyLezalla]

Gabbie Hanna tried to "go after escaoe the night" and Rosanna Pansino and others spoke up abt Gabbje being the problem on set and not the team. Im not sure if anything bad was going on behind the scenes of etn but I am more suspicious of Joey Graceffa while I don't know if he has done anything wrong I find it odd how many problematic youtubers hes been friends with over the years

[@LegendaryDorkKnight]

I saw that first Sam & Laybia video and when Kory talked about red stuff leaking out and how he was just going to eat it out, I audibly said "That's it. I'm killing myself. That video and I cannot coexist peacefully in the same reality."

[@AKbaby89]

The fact that Colleen sent Trisha Paytas the ukulele video and Trisha didn't respond, and that wasn't a red flag that maybe its not a good response video to Colleen, blows my mind. Colleen really thought she was gonna get to lie and manipulate her way out of this again

[@kristiekane4963]

And Trisha claiming she didn’t know Colleen’s content?? Lol. She went to a show, got on stage and made a video after she watched Miranda saying how funny and twisted it was. Trisha, Colleen, Shane…. They are all the same.

[@Dave102693]

Ikr?

[@Unbreakable245]

Trisha has changed Stop bitching about her Man, i HATE cancel culture

[@user-ooop]

​​@@Unbreakable245 She isn't canceled, no one's trying to or can cancel her, & folks r only criticizing her. If she rly changed then why be dishonest or inconsistent.

[@kristiekane4963]

@@Unbreakable245 if she’s changed then why is she lying constantly?? She rewrites history nonstop. That is not a changed person. That’s a manipulator. Sorry you’re easily manipulated

[@tinaismamama]

Unholy trinity

[@penguin-schluppstudio]

My heart breaks for all the victims. I also wanna know how Colleen's content went under the radar for so long.

[@Saphia_]

I guess it's because her content is mostly made for kids and adults rarely, if ever, seem to watch those. And maybe those who watch either pull their child quietly out of it or don't care.

[@penguin-schluppstudio]

@@Saphia_ ngl, I was one of those adult fans (Feel free to shame me, I deserve it) because I THOUGHT IT WAS ADULT CONTENT LIKE DHMIS OR SALAD FINGERS!

[@Saphia_]

@@penguin-schluppstudio It's not your fault if you thought it was made for adults imo. I guess that's another way it could've slipped under the radar.

[@thetruebadevil]

@@penguin-schluppstudio bro I never watched her stuff but when I was younger something about her content screamed to me that it was adult content when scrolling through Netflix. I was surprised to learn that it was not only targeted towards children but still contained mature jokes??

[@seriouslyoverit2971]

About 3 years ago my nephew was all into Colleen and when I asked what she was about he legit said "she makes adult edgy content but for kids" Like what??😮 I'm sure he has no idea how that sounded but my brother in law yelled at me for saying it sounded culty n sus. He now feels awful that he didn't check more as he thought it was just "Goofy kid sh$t" Plus he felt depressed prior and her community gave him. happiness so he didn't think it was harmful. I had no idea it was THIS. She may do this and notice vulnerable kids or ones struggling with fitting in like my nephew once was. Upon first glance it looks like goofy kid stuff, watching in full, what most parents don't do, you then realize what it is.

[@codalanguez]

I didn't even know about the Beyonce cover. Considering the fact that Beyonce has a rather light skin tone and Colleen could probably match it with a decent tan, her choosing to have such dark make up on her face...smeared on... She was doing blackface. Period.

[@thechaoticcellist]

2 things: 1. Your videos are always well researched and empathetic. I love your compassion and the respect you always give to every single topic you discuss. 2. This Bowie-esque lighting is visually to die for. You look like an art piece. More of this, please.