Colleen Ballinger: Another OG YouTuber exposed

[@aurea.]

How difficult is it to NOT talk about sexual things with a minor???

[@MrsLovettfan21]

Right like why do they always act like it’s something anyone would get caught doing as if it’s normal??

[@LKTori]

If other minors can avoid it so can grown adults

[@TJR-ju8dj]

I just don’t talk to no minors at all on the internet. As soon as i find out i block them.

[@aliciawistrand2014]

Exactly. I’ve never once wanted to be friends with a child, let alone discuss sex with them.

[@johannasweet1120]

Ikr and adults will tell minors “don’t talk about that stuff” 🙄🤚

[@Monica-le9oi]

She sent a child explicit OF photos, she sent a minor, panties, she spoke to minors about her sex life and asked minors about their own sex life. How is she not facing criminal charges?

[@olive_99]

this is what i'd like to know. this is actually criminal behavior and needs to be held accountable.

[@jovaniolivares9460]

What OF photos??

[@dynogamergurl]

and more importantly, if this is true then why hasn't cps been called in? lest we not forget she also has kids.

[@Chikorita2Chante]

​@@jovaniolivares9460They supposedly talked derogatorily about Trisha Paytas' OF.

[@mayav927]

The only real crime is the OF pics. Showing children that material is a crime. The rest is MORALLY wrong but not criminal.

[@udidntseethat]

The fact she has remained silent while her 9 year old fans threaten death upon her accuser/s tells me all I need to know about her as a person

[@einienj3281]

Oh wow.. that's a whole new level of fucked up brainwashing.. 😮

[@jetnight88]

what kind of person is she then tell me

[@angelacanedit]

she didn't remain silent, she was talking mad shit behind the scenes

[@udidntseethat]

​@@jetnight88is it really necessary to even ask that when we know the things she said lmao?

[@RiniDiamandis]

it definitely isnt hust 9yos cos theyve been doxxed and adam's family has been harassed too it defff isnt just 9yos cos up til recently Kodee who is in her THIRTIES was fine to crap all over Adam and the other kids who spoke up against GROOMLEEN and make videos to discredit Adam, the same for other tea channels who again def aren't run by 9yos !!

[@jackchop1576]

She doesn't see the seriousness of the situation because of soft bigotry. She reduced Adam to a mid-2000's "token sassy gay BFF" trope. She'll never see it as wrong because Adam could never be attracted to her.

[@mks-one]

This makes a lot of sense tbh

[@morganboggis03]

This!!! I don’t think people are really looking enough into the fact Adam is gay I feel that is a massive reason she focused on him

[@sommermcdaniel9723]

@@morganboggis03 That's exactly what I was thinking!

[@npjm.99]

Her Miranda Sings character making fun about her creepy uncle molesting her always seemed gross to me.

[@scray00]

Makes you wonder if something happened there. Her brother has sent inappropriate texts to these fans too.

[@softbabeh]

it always seemed gross, but it makes you wonder if she joked about that stuff because it happened to her OR if she was normalising it so she can take advantage of her fans easier

[@kiricamel]

@@softbabehOR she didn’t have malicious intent after all and is just a stupid, uneducated, sheltered kid herself, who genuinely thought it was okay behaviour… (which would be no excuse ofc) but yeah I always get REALLY uneducated vibes from her..

[@EthanArburi-wf6xk]

@@kiricamelWhat do you mean when you say "uneducated vibes"?

[@kiricamel]

@@EthanArburi-wf6xk she seems to be less educated than you‘d expect a 36 year old to be on lots of things and often lets her audience educate her.. also she doesn’t seem to think about what she’s doing until after and seems to be greatly influenced and adapt trends as her current/ intermittent opinion, which seems uneducated and/or low iq. And what I mean by that is she most likely didn’t AT ALL think about how talking to minors like that could be wrong before she got called out/ educated.

[@hhyperbaIIad]

been waiting for this to all fall out for years. people have been saying things about her for ages.

[@nathanielbables8652]

Just curious do you think she's an actual pedo or just has fucked up standards and humor?

[@createcultivate7235]

Same. I thought she would get canceled after Adam dropped al of those receipts.

[@missylou725]

Wow. I'm only just hearing about this. I never knew she was problematic until a few days ago.

[@outofspacee1422]

Same

[@sabine1285]

same

[@librarianontheloose]

She literally sounds like she considered this group of teenagers her peer group which is...odd.

[@liselotteline8596]

I'm in my early thirties, and I wouldn't talk like this even with people my age. I'ts weird, disgusting and creepy.

[@balletwb94]

10 years ago when Miranda Sings was popular, I got bad vibes from her. Go back and watch some of her skits and you’ll see the innuendos are there. I never felt right about her.

[@ethanbrown6188]

I see what you mean, but she wasn't doing videos for kids in the beginning.

[@mattie1791]

I didn't either, my sibling used to love her videos but I always hated them. I'm disabled and it always felt like Miranda was making fun of me

[@padmeskywalker1537]

Since her rising to popularity I’ve never liked her. I don’t get it

[@Notfearjustexcitement]

Same! Totally gave me a bad feeling back in the day too. Never understood the appeal at all

[@hausofstructure8705]

Same! When she first came out she immediately made me very uncomfortable I never understood how she gained popularity

[@AKbaby89]

I found Adam in 2020 from his original video about her, and it breaks my heart that people were out there attacking him and trying to basically ruin his life so he would back down and go away. I never had any doubt about his story, and im disabled and have always felt like "miranda" was just making fun of me. Im neurodivergent and theres been some things "miranda" said that just made me feel really shitty about myself. I hope everyone who has been hurt by colleen and her family can heal from all this. They deserved better. ❤

[@sapphkey9899]

OMG, LITERALLY SAME???? I'm very recently diagnosed (last october), and I haven't watched Miranda for AGES, but i remember just how sad some things she said/did made me, and how much they made me hate myself, cause I thought I was weird

[@sleepyforestdweller]

Literally the entire character is just ableist & it’s super cringe to see a grown ass woman using middle school bully humor.

[@AKbaby89]

@Sapphi Tee yeah I was diagnosed as a kid, but I didn't have a lot of info about it so I mask a lot. I vividly remember being super focused on my facial expressions after watching her, and id go through conversations in my head before saying anything, and if I ever came to the conclusion that someone might think I'm weird, I just keep it to myself. My friends always told me I'm so weird and random and they weren't trying to be mean, but when you're called weird your whole life, it starts to feel like an insult🤷‍♀️

[@AKbaby89]

@Sleepy Forest Dweller Music yeah, tbh watching the clips of her shows and her videos the last week has just made me so uncomfortable. It makes me feel super gross to see her say/do something ableist, and then hear all the laughter.

[@allisonhancockpresley6247]

I'm surprised it has taken this long for all the big channels to really report on this story. 3 years is a long time for this kid to feel like the world hates him. I remember seeing his video when it came out, and I just cried for him.

[@rinpaisys]

She always gave me the ick. Her miranda character always rang more true as a mean girl making fun of someone she finds annoying while simultaneously expressing her real thoughts and character thru the guise of “miranda” than something made purely for entertainment. “Colleen” always struck me as artificial and fake. She always struck me as being cut from the same cloth as a lot of the people I went to high-school with, if not worse.

[@liviwaslost]

She gave me the ick too, but I think mostly because my little sister liked her when she was like 9. I also didn’t like her because she was using her baby for views.

[@LawNerdAmber]

Protect Adam at all costs, his bravery in speaking up deserves to be protected and respected. She won't be able to groom any more children because of his bravery. Those he's speaking up for are the ones viciously attacking him.

[@jillianowens17]

❤

[@AshleesBathroom]

#IStandWithAdam

[@dear-pixel-heart]

Beautifully said. #IStandWithAdam

[@catslade333]

I believed Adam years ago when he first came out about this. I am happy he is finally getting validation.

[@TJ-jk4ut]

me too and I remember everyone was condoning Colleen behavior back then

[@CaitlynHert]

Yeah the way people really said Adam (a kid) was "asking for" these interactions and poor Colleen (a full grown adult) was just so naive and went along with it was so gross. I've believed him from the start and I'm glad people are actually on his side this time around.

[@elohi]

There’s nothing she can say to excuse her behavior. Awful. Thx for covering this!

[@nathanielbables8652]

Just curious do you think she's an actual pedo or just has fucked up standards and humor?

[@jovaniolivares9460]

Yet she will come with some "apology" video twisting everything around, doubling down, justifying, and everyone will let it slide

[@elohi]

@@jovaniolivares9460 such a common theme in this country, hell, this world. So sick of it!

[@Twiggy_Branch]

Why is it so hard for people to leave the children alone?

[@felix0-014]

I looked her up and she has kids. I'm honestly scared for her kids and her kid's friends. She seems like the kind of person who would try grooming her kids friends

[@DoveLady]

exactly my thoughts. wish peed hunting was a legitimate sport.

[@paxhumana2015]

@@DoveLady , there are two people that are in Florida that are called the Zulocks that are ripe for being prey then.

[@TheScarlett618]

Her oldest is four, and her twins(boy/girl) aren't even a year old yet.

[@Lckween328]

@@TheScarlett618they are over a year old

[@felix0-014]

@@TheScarlett618 I mean when they turn into tweens/teens. She probably won't go to jail or end up on a registry unless someone comes forward with evidence of CP or the Rword so what's to stop her when her kids are teenagers?

[@Venya9]

I’m in my early 30s right now and could never imagine chatting like this to minors. My niece has asked me about stuff in a very little sister - big sister way since she doesn’t have an older sibling and feels uncomfortable talking to her mum and what Colleen was doing is NOT s*x ed or advice. It’s shocking and alarming.

[@sourgummiescureyourpain4555]

Yeah, there is an appropriate way to talk to kids about sexuality. If it's your place to do so as a relative, teacher or friend. I'm your age and the oldest sister of four. If any adult were to talk to my sisters that way - I'd see red. There's no reason to talk to stranger's children about your kinks.

[@karak962]

exactly. I talk to my best friend's brother about hard topics when he asks me for advice or information. but there's an APPROPRIATE way to do that!!! I've known him since I was 12. He's my baby brother essentially and it makes me nauseous to imagine someone pulling such bullshit on him.

[@Cupidssatan]

I really hope and pray that this doesn’t end the same way as Shane Dawson, no accountability; no consequence, left it for awhile and then came back to social media like nothing happened. These people are getting away with too much, even with a lot of proof, it’s like the law just skims over it.

[@NormalizeNotBeingaVictim]

Except Shane Dawson never broke any laws or did anything wrong. Please stop with the delusional outcry and move on.

[@Cupidssatan]

@@NormalizeNotBeingaVictim okay I was stating an opinion but also technically he was grooming and talking to minors. That’s not nothing, it’s pretty similar actually. Please do your research before attacking me

[@Sara-dp5dg]

​@@NormalizeNotBeingaVictimyeah because joking about how sexy a child is and making that perverted video with his cousin and being just as weird around minors isn't bad 🙄

[@dw-xy9vm]

@@NormalizeNotBeingaVictim Legality is not a guideline for morality.

[@ambivalent_af]

GOOD! I’ve been warning people about her for years! My little brother was a huge fan years ago, and Miranda Sings became a fandom we bonded over. I took him to two of her shows and then found out about her sending lingerie as a “joke” to a young male fan, and we never looked back. Completely unacceptable. Imagine if a man had done something similar. She betrayed the trust of parents who let their kids watch her content.

[@NotAnotherKuromi]

Exactly, if this was a man there would have been a tonne more backlask & they would have been cancled ages ago.

[@nathanielbables8652]

Just curious do you think she's an actual pedo or just has fucked up standards and humor?

[@s.calamity5545]

men do worse and get away with it. let's not run with this "bc she's FEMALE she won't be held accountable" narrative. it's very, very inaccurate.

[@Turquerina]

​@@NotAnotherKuromiUm, not really? I see so many comments like yours and it's not new or interesting. People would still blame the victims. And also, this isn't about men, why can't you just focus on the action at hand? This is disrespectful for the current victims involved, there's no need to compare it.

[@emofurryboyfriendasmr]

​@@NotAnotherKuromii feel like unfortunately shane Dawson proves this false however there is a small percentage of people who say "well hes a boy do he enjoyed it" and im sure they would shut up but others would defend men too its because she has money and power unfortunately>.

[@pureromancelovers16]

The question is why is she even talking to minors? I know that is her fan base but like why is she even talking to minors in her DMs? I have never watched her content but this just grosses me out 😐

[@READYTOGLARE]

EXACTLY

[@ShawtyShmackin]

Cannn we talk about the double standard that lowkey exists here- if it were a man doing the same he’d be getting “canceled” / looked into alottt sooner- 😗

[@Sofia-wh9jr]

@@ShawtyShmackin Yeah, James Charles is still out there after all his fuckery, so try again

[@ShawtyShmackin]

@@ynlizard5297 noone said they didnt- 🤣💀 all i said was she’d be getting the side eye sooner had she not been a woman- she was likely wrongly given the benefit of the doubt in part due to it. Noone said this was the WHOLE conversation, just something worth mentioning.

[@ShawtyShmackin]

@@Sofia-wh9jr james charles was “canceled” on soooo many occasions- then “un -canceled” because people seem to have shortterm memory loss & RE-platform him…this we all know very well. It has nothing to do with what i said✋😂

[@velvetvehemence]

I could never understand how people watched her live shows and didn't think the way the interacted with kids was gross. adam is so strong and sending him so much love❤ thank you for covering this, I'm very interested to see your addition to the conversation.

[@kerrysmith7598]

I hope Adam is seeing all these youtubers validating him, and he sees all the support he is getting

[@woodanemone9758]

I know Colleen will never read this, but if I was her agent/manager and giving her advice, I'd tell her to quit the internet. I'd also tell her to send out apologies privately to people she's hurt, but let it be up to them if these apologies ever get published. We don't need another white shirt-fake tears-apology video. Edit: I think Colleen went with my advice as she wore black, didn't cry but sang her apology. She kept it good and fake, though, Rom wasn't built in one day.

[@liselotteline8596]

And to get some professional help.

[@woodanemone9758]

@@liselotteline8596 That too!

[@joshuacoleman8000]

@woodanemone9758 And even if she did read your op, she'd immediately dismiss it.

[@woodanemone9758]

@@joshuacoleman8000 That I don't doubt.

[@ginacarbone1153]

She did that but worse

[@vzxlid]

The fact that she's talking about using things from her fan club or whatever, in a sexual manner later on with her partner is absolutely disgusting. This all sounds like she is just p-word, period, that's it. I'm blew away every time I hear about this. I am 22 and I can't imagine talking to children like that.

[@ddjsoyenby]

i wouldn't be shocked if she was a p3do no healthy adult does sh1t like this with kids.

[@annipsy2185]

ive seen an exact same sort of behaviour in group chats of people i knew. i guarantee if she thought she could get away with it she would absolutely welcome a sexual encounter with that minor.

[@luvcherry]

that is definitely a possibility, tho I also think it's mostly her being extremely immature and lacking situational awareness and boundaries, maybe she was treated like that at that age which made her think it was okay but that doesn't excuse her subsequent bullying and lack of accountability

[@Vampxiii_]

21 and same here. It’s so gross.

[@ameliabrown8093]

It even bothered me that she wrote "cuuuuummm on" instead of "come on" to a kid. Like, I know its just spelling but still... with all the info abut the manipulation of kids and the sexual discussions between her and them... it bothers me.

[@angrybunnies9664]

It is definitely blurring the lines

[@pnwgirl4]

I can't imagine talking to a 13 year old about my sex life or relationships. It's just fucking weird. Also I just find it weird in general how she talks to all of these kids like they are her on her level. I don't think adults should treat teenagers like babies but it's also just strange for a full grown adult to have such a close friendship with a 13 year old that's not like a familial or mentor relationship.

[@M1985-]

It’s pedo behaviour. It’s really not normal. At all.

[@eveoffillory5752]

My Community Arts kids (15-19 at the time) always talked about their lives with me. But anytime they would start talking about explicit things or their "DILF List" I'd cover my ears, make obnoxious sounds & walk away (little shits thought it was funny that I & other adults were uncomfortable so they'd do it on purpose). We adults never talked about our sex lives or relationships in front of them. They're all 18 to 25 now & we still DON'T talk about those things in front of them. Especially not in detail. We're their mentors, their "Millennial siblings", their aunties as they called us. How TF can someone be so comfortable talking about these things in front of children or direct explicit messages at them. That's some sick isht, dude.

[@pnwgirl4]

@eveoffillory5752 that is the perfect way to respond to kids when they try to talk about that stuff! Like teenagers will be horny and that's OK but they can talk about it with other teenagers not me lol

[@M1985-]

@@eveoffillory5752 Exactly. I worked with children and I really feels it’s odd that she now says she was just talking as a loser with her fans. She compared it to family members you cannot take serious. That was her apology video. She is so self-righteous.

[@jovaniolivares9460]

What is up with "child entertainers" usually ending up in scandals like this? Theres a connection there. Any adult who only surrounds themsleves with people of an age that is easily influenced and manipulated should be suspect.

[@ddjsoyenby]

sadly it's easy to trick people into thinking your safe by acting the right way and many p3dos who do enter "childrens entertainment" do so for easy access to kids.

[@LKTori]

I can’t back it up but I do remember reading or hearing somewhere that these kinds of people seek out jobs where they have access to children. Its so frustrating to think about

[@EMandMmms]

you think we should assume all pediatricians, teachers, counselors, caregivers, entertainers, etc., should ALL be suspected of being deviants? A lot of people love working with kids, that doesn't make everyone who works and surrounds themselves with kids a pdf. Sure always be on a lookout for sus behavior, but there are plenty of creeps who don't seek out jobs involving kids, and a vast majority of people who work with kids aren't deviant.

[@beautyallaround_]

@@EMandMmmsI think they were talking about child entertainers, and more specifically online creators with an audience full of children.

[@liselotteline8596]

@@EMandMmms If you compare the average percent of ped0s in jobs without children and jobs with children, the number of ped0s in jobs with access to children would be higher. Let's say 1% of society is ped0phile, the number of ped0phile teachers could be 3%. The majority would still be good people, who chose their job because they want to help children, but the chances of finding a ped0phile is higher than average. OP never said we should assume all caregivers are a threat to children, they just said ped0philes seek access to children through their job. You are using a straw man argument. You disagree with something the original commenter never said. Read their comment again.

[@haz.fellie]

James Charles Shane Dawson Coleen Ballinger Tell your children about these people and give them details so they know what to look for in the future. Don't let them become the next victims.

[@gabim3093]

I find it interesting that they all somehow are friends, collabed, hung out, or knew each other on a deeper level. And they all did this crap. Are there a lot of pedo influencers/sexual predator influencers that we don’t know about and hide this stuff from the public?

[@haz.fellie]

@@gabim3093 okay calm down I’m not tryina be involved in any conspiracy theories.

[@Carriesue1982]

Imagine if a man did this, people would be reacting entirely different. Also her brother was found to be talking to and being weird with underage girls. Something is really off in that family.

[@kinhahazevedoh]

Which brother?

[@infinitecurlie]

Dude. Men do things like this all the time what are you on about? There are men who have done this and have gotten away with it plenty of times. You really should examine your internal misogyny.

[@maddieb.4282]

Yeah men are NOT held accountable like you think they are lol, it is very easy for male predators to get away with things

[@maddieb.4282]

If men were automatically held accountable for this kind of behavior why hasn’t her brother been held accountable? Your own comment contradicts itself…

[@taylorg2320]

If you watch Adam's video "my relationship with Colleen" you'll see that Colleen was speaking to a 14 year old (she was at least 32) in the same way a woman might lean on a man that she's romantically interested in for comfort. She would trauma dump about her sex life, her love life, her mental health, trash talk other fans, other people, and constantly seek reassurance and validation from this poor little boy who was just excited that she was paying attention to him. It got to the point where when they agreed to meet, Colleen acted weird about the fact that Adam was coming with his parents. Like, you can ignore literally everything else that happened and only look at that one thing and it would still be a completely irredeemable offense. She did all of that for 4 years, basically entered an emotional relationship with this boy, and then turned her entire fandom on him overnight, basically the only group of friends he had grown to know at that time.

[@yuumizedong2574]

What the heck? This was incredibly well worded I'm actually so impressed by the quality of this comment😂

[@traumatizedcat]

GIRL, I HAD A BAD FEELING ABOUT THIS GIRL.

[@traumatizedcat]

I knew I couldn’t stand her and her singing

[@mycatateit284]

miranda sings always rubbed me wrong....

[@courtneylynn9339]

The fact that she was friends with shane dawson was enough if a red flag

[@alyxg2764]

She gave me the creeps even when I was younger and I’m not too shocked to see this

[@candyqueenify]

Remember when she'd make really weird skits about her and her weird uncle? 😖

[@alyxg2764]

@@candyqueenify vaguely. I never actually watched her much my self cause she wasn’t my thing but my cousin who I am close with did a lot

[@amandahayes4837]

"If you have to hide it from people around you, maybe ask yourself why that is." 💯 Say it louder for the people in the back!!! Thank you for saying that!

[@shadowm2k7]

The fact that a group chat of minors is called "the weenies" is just gross 🤢

[@klaw6137]

The amount Colleen over shares with her young vlog viewers feels icky. Neither her nor her fans appear to comprehend parasocial relationships.

[@scray00]

Kids don’t understand parasocial relationships. Unless you’re talking about her adult fans. In which case yeah they’d all lay under the tires of a bus if she asked them to.

[@xxzcfdxc]

At this point if a fully grown adult is still going to support Colleen they are probably a MAP

[@ddjsoyenby]

fact.

[@ellelockyear]

don’t use the term map. call it as it is - a pedophile.

[@lulucakelove]

Let's use the real term, a paedophile MAP makes it sound less serious than it actually is

[@MenTB]

@@lulucakeloveTechnically, Pedophilia is an attraction to prepubescent children. I think OP wants to make sure to include all children under 18. None of us normal ppl care about the label, cause it’s all gross, but pedos do care and they use those mental gymnastics to justify what they are doing to themselves and their victims. So, MAP should be just as taboo and just as shameful as the pedo label, imo.

[@RiniDiamandis]

i personally think the Colleen pressing her fans abt Josh is WAAAAAAAAAY more nefarious than just "i'm obsessed w my ex lol" Colleen AND Josh GROOMED Johnny TOGETHER (and who knows who else) so Josh cutting ties w Colleen meant that he could LEGIT blow the whistle on what they both did with kids so getting her fans to think Josh is just an untrustworthy liar meant it would be sooooooooo easy for her fans to dogpile him if he ever spoke up about any of it and their relationship when even though clearly from this behaviour colleen is super controlling and manipulative (that doesnt excuse josh at all ofc) and when this started coming to light again Josh couldnt HELP but try to cover his tracks regarding Johnny THEYRE ALL TRASH!!

[@Wander85942]

Im just waiting for the tearful apology for any misunderstanding and could never hurt a child as a mother. It really writes itself how she is going to bury this. I used to watch her but not enough to see all this. Honestly don’t know how I missed it. Her die hard fans can keep her.

[@READYTOGLARE]

If and when that comes out, I’ll be here to collect the damage control tears.

[@haz.fellie]

That was my first thought when I heard about this. Predators shouldn't have access to children but what about when it's their children?

[@Wander85942]

@@haz.fellie I don’t know enough but from what I’ve seen either they victimize others or kids they are related to that including their own. Or they only victimize outside of the home. Either situation, the adult is removed from access. It’s not just Colleen though it’s the whole family. Her and brother have both used their kids for monetary gains.

[@mycatateit284]

@@haz.fellie if convicted the pred *at best* gets supervised visitation from what i understand

[@brookico]

I am so glad awareness is being brought to this. I was concerned that after Shane got hardcore canceled for 10+ year old inappropriate humor and somehow Trisha P skated by fairly unscathed when she had done worse things that the same would happen for Colleen. To be fair when it came to them and IMO James C, who’s behavior was worse bc he was actually secretly texting minors trying to hook up, the fact still is they all were/are in their early 20’s when the inappropriateness happened BUT Colleen was 30+ years old. She can’t say “Oh I was young and dumb” because she was 30+ years old. That is what makes this situation worse than any other cancelation bc with Shane it was old inappropriate “humor” but he never had any minors come forward accusing him of anything that I know of and he had long since changed his content, apologized, and took a year off KZbin. With James, his cancelation was similar to Colleen about secretly talking to minors but again, he was like around 20 I think. I don’t know that we can say he apologized since he took the apology video down and continues to make fun of the situation ( the recent birthday cake). However, what makes Colleen’s case so much worse is her age and the accusations are fairly recent, from what I’ve heard she continued these discussions with other minors up until really recently, and she has stayed silent with no apology at all. She should be canceled harder than any of the others IMO bc this situation is the worst I’ve seen yet.

[@paxhumana2015]

I will never apologize for my content and I will repost offensive things just to make the hypocrites mad because one person dared to stand up against their tyranny. Literal wars have been started over ending the tyranny of hypocrites that act like Trisha P.

[@nathanielbables8652]

Just curious do you think she's an actual pedo or just has fucked up standards and humor?

[@TheMrCaden101]

You're right, it confuses me how Trisha has been relatively unscathed through everything

[@hah5494]

Dude James Charles was outright tringg to have sex with minors (and likely did). Colleen is emotionally grooming and manipulating. It's not about comparing these gross misdeeds and labeling one as the "worst" because they are very different things.

[@brookico]

@@hah5494 First, im not a dude but I agree about JC but my point is there is quite a big difference in making terribly inappropriate jokes 10 years ago and recently ( in the last 2 years) S3xting (in JC case) and talking to minors privately about S3xual things ( in Colleen’s case). Yeah they are all not good but all bad on diff levels. I’m saying Shane Dawson got drug the hardest of any of them thus far, Colleen may get that same treatment idk yet but JC got off relatively easy in comparison and Trisha somehow was pretty unscathed. I still stand by the fact that I think Colleen’s was the worst bc she was 30+ meaning her brain wasn’t still developing, she can’t say she was just young and didn’t know any better but yeah JC, if I had to guess will be getting into trouble when he’s 30+ too for the same old things bc he got away with it pretty much.

[@_Churchy]

The topic of Colleen Ballinger needs to be kept front and centre until she is either forced to publicly take responsibility for her disgusting and inappropriate relationships with minors or until every platform and sponser that have endorsed her actions by working with her cut all ties. This is beyond shocking, my heart breaks for Adam and all of her other victims. Great video ❤

[@lushfawn]

seeing adam cry over colleen slandering his name is awful. :( i feel so bad for him and anyone else involved with her when they were minors.

[@bobococo89]

When she did her original apology video, I couldn’t buy it. It just came off very disingenuous. I couldn’t believe how many people bought the fake bs apology. Looking and noting her body language and tone gave it away for me and also how she edited the livestream to make it seem like Adam over exaggerated. And also she STILL JUSTIFIED giving the lingerie and victim blamed. So it was very sad and strange people dog piled on him but not the groomer herself.

[@mycatateit284]

did you mean something like unauthentic? ingenious means clever and un-genuine doesnt exist as a word of its own

[@Oliviaandtrina]

*disingenuous

[@Oliviaandtrina]

​@@mycatateit284 disingenuous is the correct word.

[@bobococo89]

Ah thanks! I’ll correct my error

[@mycatateit284]

@@Oliviaandtrina oh thank you!

[@Inception42069]

I always supported adam. I feel like the thing that SHOULD have tipped off colleen's supporters (speaking about adults cause not all minors know better) that adam wasn't lying was the fact that his mom had to get involved and tell colleen to stop. And colleen didn't hide that fact in her "addressing everything" video so like... the adults that actually watched her video should have been tipped off from the beginning. its *EXTREMELY* disheartening that adults continued to support her and harass adam after that.

[@MaraBaba]

I always believed Adam and have been following him since his first video on Colleen. I couldn’t understand why the drama channels didn’t believe him. I also find it weird that she’s in her 30s and still playing a teenage character and interacting with minors she just creeps me out. Thank you for covering this!

[@glitchyboi-nk1qv]

Admittedly I was skeptical when I heard allegations but I never saw evidence until today, I never saw Adam’s video much less knew it existed

[@milkman4743]

I just realized who she was, I kept hearing her name around but was like "who?????" But now I realized she's like the Miranda sings girl. That's so depressing me and my sister used to watch her when we were younger

[@ddjsoyenby]

sadly a lot of og youtubers are p3d0s.

[@annieapple8974]

Remember when James Charles came out and defended her and called Adam a minor at the time a scumbag and all these horrible things. I guess predators stick together 🤷🏼‍♀️

[@StarWarsThrowbacks]

YES! And he said that Adam manipulated an ADULT!

[@Mmizzle22]

My husband was just asking who Colleen is and what she did and I was like we need a good summary video, and here you are right on time! Thank you! Still loving your videos and love this new backdrop, wishing you all the best

[@angelacanedit]

Colleen was sooo wrong for this. She will never address this because she can't excuse this away.

[@Tara........]

Colleen seems to be under the impression that if she ignores this fiasco long enough, it will somehow just disappear. I don't understand why her friends like Joey, Daniel, etc. remain silent as this all blows up. It's not a good look for those people either.

[@iamrobbyd]

my heart truly goes out to adam. he’s has to endure so much from her and the internet. i’ve never been a colleen fan nor did i watch her miranda sings content but holy crap the entire internet owes him an apology

[@jillianowens17]

Yes.

[@13realmusic]

I watched Miranda Sings when I was in middle school and not a moment after. It's really disturbing now to realize what content I was consuming and doubly concerning that she is still doing it.

[@rs-mt6kl]

Ok I'm someone that can be friends with any age of human. I have friends that are in their 70s, I have friends that are 10 yrs younger than I am and only 17. And I have conversations with them about my relationships, sometimes theirs, and dating and stuff. But you know what? I keep it age appropriate and cleaned up and not specific. If I'm talking with like a minor or a friend in their late teens and they're interrogating me about a date I went on, I'm talking about how good the food was and how we were romantic and got to snuggle n kiss and ~wow I like him, he opened the door for me I'm so comfortable with him blah blah blah.~ You don't include the BJ in the parking lot. "How'd your first time feel?" "You know, it feels different for everyone, the most important thing is being comfortable and feeling like you trust the person and can talk or say stop if it is uncomfortable. My first time was a good experience. I waited until I was ready and with someone I trusted." Like you can have conversations with younger people without being a fckn creep. There's no reason to need a private convo with minors/teens. If their parents would freak out or feel weird about it if they were a fly on the wall, you probably shouldn't talk about it w them.

[@jellogirl2010]

I'm 33 and my sister is 10 years younger than me, I always tried to guard myself around her and her friends. It's so sickening to me to talk to children about those things.

[@jellogirl2010]

@@krys7893 Oh no! Not now! I meant when they were still kids and I was in my 20s. My relationship with her and her friends is MUCH different now that the age gap doesn't seem as wide. I meant like 10/20, not 23/33.

[@tashamott]

you look like you’re doing really well. i’ve been following you for five ish years, and the last year must have been beyond words, but you look like you’re healing. ❤

[@xboxxguy_9360]

Hope that creepy narcissistic mean girl gets whats coming to her, by that i mean "canceled" & charged for what she did/said to those kids over the years

[@MythologicaYT]

Since I'm pregnant, watching her videos on her kids and such really helped calm me down.... Now I just feel sick when I think about this :(

[@lurji]

i fear for your child if you make gacha videos jesus christ

[@stephanglo8234]

What I'm shocked by is the fact that she isn't facing ANY criminal charges! Often I see these things on KZbin and cannot understand how there is literal *evidence* of crimes being committed and yet no charges have been laid and no criminal investigation is underway either?!

[@beep.boop13]

THANK YOU so much for covering this!! It's completely nauseating and it makes me sad that people can hide or cover up stuff like this and just keep carrying on normally when it can be devastating to those who it happened to. I hope this doesn't go away this time.

[@johannasweet1120]

Bro I just don’t trust any “OG KZbinr/vine star” anymore

[@DreamingSkychild]

Wow. She is a full on sociopath and predator. This is disgusting and horrifying. She's traumatized so many lives... and Adam, he's such a great person, I love his channel. I had no idea he had been through such trauma, especially as a minor... my CPTSD is fully triggered. I wish people like Colleen could go to prison. Thank you so much for speaking up about injustice when others would rather be silent. I appreciate that about you.

[@Madkalibyr]

This is a head scratcher for me, as I never closely followed her career or content ,but right off the bat it is not okay for a 30 year old involved in a group chat with 14 year olds .(im 34 btw)

[@halfwen4575]

Idk if anyone else has mentioned this: you can be employed at that age in the UK, just get paid faaaaar fking less & can't work full time. Source: had to get a job at an elderly care home at 14 whilst still in school (parental abuse reasons but ye)

[@nobodieknows45673]

Thank you Julia for speaking about this horrible situation. More KZbinr’s need to be calling Colleen out and holding her accountable

[@thelittlestpika]

I'm glad this has come out but it's awful Adam and other people had to go through this.

[@horribleartist8504]

omg thank u for blessing us with a 30min video queen!! stay safe and take care of yourself ❤️

[@jamsssssss]

i’m still shocked and appalled that nobody believed adam’s story but everybody was quick to cancel shane dawson as soon as his old content resurfaced

[@neutral.chaotic]

this is a very serious topic and my heart goes out ton all of her fans and especially Adam. also, Adam is FIRE. that outfit is GORGEOUS. he is fashion. that is all. I wish him and his friends health, happiness, and healing.

[@alysandraborden9265]

Adam is still so clearly upset about this. Can you imagine what 13-15 year old Adam was thinking at that time?

[@Clownbunnycosplay]

Her and Shane were friends I’m not shocked they’re both disgusting towards children,

[@postpunk_cursed_cat8260]

Like why in day's society let women be predatory, if she was a man y'all be cancelling his ass

[@READYTOGLARE]

This is exactly why I make it a rule to cover female predators whenever I can

[@haz.fellie]

Pretty sure a LOT of people are talking about this and she's being called out. Do you have any idea how long it took to take R Kelly through the judicial process? YEARS after accusations it was taken seriously. It takes time.

[@EC-dg6ti]

Is she not being cancelled right now?

[@MaddieNiec]

She gave me bad vibes after she divorced her first husband. Then when the Adam stuff came out I thought she'd be over, but she wasn't.

[@TheMrsBeagle]

I always hated that she has her nieces and nephews call her "auntie panties". it felt icky to me, like just riding the line of inappropriate. It could be just on the right side of silly, but with everything else, it's just uncomfortable.

[@missgg8]

Thank u sm for covering this. We need more people talking about this

[@buffystar3]

Oh god. I was a huge fan of her when I was younger, & thankfully I never got to go to one of her shows. Just seeing the title of this video in my notifications made my heart sink, but I suppose I should be used to hearing that KZbinrs I used to like are this terrible. I never realized Miranda was offensive, since I was still in elementary school when I watched her. I hope her children will be ok, since I know they’re very young atm

[@Leleche]

People are not really annoyed about her offensive shows... People are outraged at her being a pedophile

[@buffystar3]

@@Leleche yeah, sorry my original comment wasn’t phrased very well. I might edit it

[@limesox.420.69]

i don't recommend interacting with minors much less fans that are minors online. however, if you're going to, it's also not hard to not be a creep. just talk to kids like everyone is watching and how you'd want people to talk to your kids if you weren't watching. it's actually super simple. 👌

[@RiniDiamandis]

10:02 her youtube account has been up since 2008 sooo we know it isn't just the weenies cos she's had access to minors for her ENITRE youtube career and as predators usually go i wouldn't be surprised if she was inappropriate w some kids before she even got on youtube.

[@RachelD386]

Whaaattt? She seems like one of those people who can do no wrong, or that’s the impression I got. I used to casually follow her but something about her always bugged me. Can’t wait to watch this video later.

[@bobococo89]

She’s a performer and she used that persona to make minors trust her and also use it to get away with her gross behaviors

[@RachelD386]

@@bobococo89 That is wild and sad, I had no idea. Makes me worry for her children 🙁

[@SuzanneDeniseB]

Geez. So many people have been exposed. It is insane. 😢 She has kids. You would think she might think to herself , Wow this is inappropriate..💔💔 How would she feel if someone did this with her kids....Sighs.

[@woodanemone9758]

With Colleen's net worth, she surely could have hired a moderator for those group chats involving MINORS, but having moderators means you'd need to promote guidelines and stick to them yourself. Just this group chat and Colleen allowing it says a lot, we don't need additional information to prove her lack of judgement and boundaries. But if there is more information, I hope it comes out now, since some fans seem to actively work against solid evidence.

[@faithfosco8107]

Thank you for covering this. Not a lot of people are talking about this.

[@lcedcapp]

i’ve been talking about the story of colleen pinching her dog and putting it down for so long and it’s nice to finally see people acknowledge it.

[@nicewithit_nic]

Miranda Sings alqays gave me John Wayne Gacy vibes....it was like her way to weird but crossed so many lines...

[@nicewithit_nic]

@ciolake4136 Adam has been consistently telling the same story since the underwear in the mail "issue" like 7 years ago....also he was a minor for nearly entirety of said "relationship" ewww

[@PaperParade]

I remember once seeing she was good friends with Jojo Siwa a few years ago and I remember thinking that was incredibly weird. Well, this explains a lot.

[@supergirlysofia3054]

Shane Dawson did a video with Jojo Siwa as well. It’s odd

[@UwUlilbby666]

She’s also friends with James Charles

[@faye8236]

i’m almost an adult now, and this woman was certainly a part of my childhood.

[@darkfate666]

I didn't even know who she was until a month or so ago when I saw an ad for her tour on FB. On first seeing her, I asked myself "WTF is wrong with this person?". Now I know.

[@nickit7655]

I feel sad about this because I have been a Miranda Sings fan since I was a freshman in high school nearly 15 years ago.

[@macias9]

I’ve been a fan years ago, her sister used to say how Colleen was always mean when they were kids and even if it was in the past it never sit right with me… and also the way her marriage ended… i mean I get that people get divorced but she was so mean to Josh on some videos… happy to see that she might finally be held accountable for her actions.

[@drjekyllmshyde]

Hi, 34 year old woman here 👋 the only minor I talk to privately is my 8 year old sister in law, and they’re mostly me tutoring her in math and the rest are pet pics. Wtf does this woman have in common with a minor that she has to have a private group chat?!

[@CaitlynHert]

Literally! I'm 24 and can't think of anything I'd have in common with a young teen. Any time I interact with younger acquaintances in public the only thing I can think of is to ask them how school is going 😅

[@kingworm7168]

Even completely disregarding all of the sexual stuff, the relationship was still wildly inappropriate. People excused the lingerie thing a few years ago, but I just never felt right after seeing that because nobody should have that kind of relationship with someone who is a so much younger and a fan of theirs, it’s always inappropriate.

[@katherinedonovan974]

The fact she kept getting away with this shit is wild to me!

[@scray00]

I think it’s because kids grow out of her age group and just move on with their lives never really thinking about it again. Which is how she’s gotten away with it this long imo it’s not until you look back at it as an adult you see how fd up it all was.

[@katherinedonovan974]

@@scray00 Yeah I know, as an adult it really hits you when looking back. That's why we need to protect the kids from who they support and watch.

[@TakashiDemonServant]

I used to be one of her fans when I was younger but the Adam thing I kind of knew of but at the time my interest were changing towards the Creepypasta fandom and now I look back at it I should’ve supported Adam (I wasn’t an attacker I just ignored the whole entire thing).

[@TakashiDemonServant]

Plus i was very limited on what I could do online.

[@greenbean381]

funny to me (in a horrible way) because colleen was friendly with my predatory groomer now ex "boyfriend" Lol. not surprised.

[@shelb.yyyy.]

yes. can’t wait to watch this. so glad you’re covering it

[@eggs_777]

“I am the female Shane Dawson” -Colleen Ballinger Also there are ppl in her community tab begging her to come back and that they still like her, so know there are other ppl with less reach that have no problem exploiting children for money and lulz

[@Oliviaandtrina]

The way Adam talks about everything makes me so sad. He seems to blame himself for lot, like the way he talked about sex. It's heartbreaking because it kinda feels like he still doesn't understand that he talked that way because SHE groomed him to do so. And even if it was all him, SHE was responsible to keep the relationship appropriate or end it. She is a groomer, point blank period. There is no other explanation for her behavior. No adult would act like this "without thinking". This is incredibly calculated.

[@butterflypooo]

Survivors respond like that though, we blame ourselves. I think deep deep down we know that the person is not safe and will not look out for us no matter what and that the only way to make it stop is for US to do something. But our conscious minds can’t make sense of that. Abusers don’t carry any blame for their actions, so their victims are forced to carry the blame. This happens w all sorts of victims, not just children who were groomed. The mind can’t make sense of what is happening at the time, we can’t imagine logically that someone who says they care will go out of their way to harm us. It feels impossible, so we blame ourselves. It’s very common and deep psychological scars. It takes a lot of work to unpack that and realize that it wasn’t your fault, to realize that u were powerless and taken advantage of - that truth is harder to accept than “I should have just done xyz instead”.

[@RiniDiamandis]

WE LOVE AND SUPPORT ADAM, JOHNNY AND THE WEENIES!!!! i first stumbled upon this all bcos of Zander Blue's video comps of "Miranda" doing grossly predatory stuff in her live shows and her videos and then i fell down this rabbit hole. Adam has been very transparent about this for YEARS and he doesn't deserve an ounce of all of this hate he has gotten, doxxing and even death threats and swatting!!! I know as time goes on more of Colleen's (AND HER FAMILY'S)) past victims will come forward and this entire family needs to be held accountable, cos they all got access to these minors bcos of "Miranda". GROSS that includes her ex husband josh AND Erik!!!

[@verycuteanimal301]

girl literally why is she even in a gc with her fans?

[@darlingbrookebooks]

The ANXIETY pooling out of him makes me sad :( I hate Colleen so much like-

[@ashleytyraisaacs]

I feel bad for adam. Looking at the clips, it seems like he didn't know best to verbalize what happened and the response pounced on that rather than what he actually said

[@Alejaccx]

I stop and think before every single thing I will say to my nieces because I don't even want to curse around them, I can't imagine asking a CHILDREN about their sexual life, like wtf, I don't even ask my best friend, that is so SO gross.

[@butterflypooo]

And so out of pocket too. It’s just so weird to out of nowhere ask anyone of any age about their sex life. I didn’t have a sex life when I was 15, idk if many kids do at that age -but I can recall at least one person asking me. I never knew what to say. It felt like he was making fun of me for not being sexually successful or something, even though I was just a kid. Anyway, these ppl don’t know how to interact w other humans in a healthy and normal manner and just want to impose their weird shit on anyone they can.