The consequencs of the 8Passengers vlogs

[@bunny.ribbit]

when she was speaking about the girl forgetting her lunch, i thought it was a 15-16 year old kid at least… not that it would make it any better.

[@rainyrouge5123]

I'm surprised the article didn't clarify the kid was five. Seems important to me. To me, it seems outrageous to even expect a kid that age to prepare a meal for themself, let alone tell them they'll go without food for a day if they don't. Maybe I'm just saying that because I know that if that happened to me when I was a little kid, I would have eaten nothing but Pop-Tarts and Goldfish crackers for lunch for the entire school year.

[@woodanemone9758]

When you're 15-16, you might have some cash on you to buy something in the vending machine or whatever. A 6-year-old is helpless. I understand you assumed the child is older. Ruby pushed a lot of expectations on her small children.

[@jenkitty6785]

That was just crazy. Poor kids 😢

[@Annie_Annie__]

Yeah, and she said that she hoped no one ends up giving her daughter a lunch (or something to that effect) with this tone that seemed to convey that she’d be angry, maybe furious, if a teacher steps forward and buys a lunch for that little girl. Because then she won’t learn her lesson. It’s just so gross. My kid is 14 and takes his lunch to school, but he also always has a little money in his school lunch account (they don’t use cash at his school) just in case. You never know when he might forget his lunch, accidentally drop it, another kid might accidentally spill milk on it (he’s allergic and this has happened before, lol), who knows. I forget to bring my lunch to work sometimes even when it’s prepared and sitting on the counter waiting for me. Shit happens. _That’s_ the lesson she should teach her daughter; shit happens, we make mistakes, but most of the time we can fix them with no harm done. It sounds like this lady expects her children to be perfect little robots.

[@rainyrouge5123]

@@Annie_Annie__ You put that perfectly. If I remember correctly, the girl's teacher texted her when that happened, and she texted back telling her to not let anyone give her food. If I was the teacher, I would be horrified by that.

[@jelenadrnas3253]

As someone who was abused as a child, it impacts you for life. Going hungry, staying outside in the cold, getting hit and so on will fck up a child. Also parents using kids as content, a big no in my book. Id make it illegal to post kids on social media if it were up to me.

[@jurassicroom7673]

That's a bit of a stretch people are proud of their kids and should be able to post family stuff, but families that use them as little workhorses like "Ryan's Toy Reviews or the Ace Family" are gross.

[@Beaueloevsworstnightmare]

"As somebody who was - blah blah blah blah"

[@paigemosher8697]

​@darich.6132 Your mother told me to pass on thanks for her reminder that this pathetic worm of a man is what she suffered a whole pregnancy with you for. I'd ask your dad, too, but I grabbed the last carton of milk for myself on the way out.

[@juliekeast6175]

​​@@jurassicroom7673No, its not a stretch. These adults are not sharing their kids with who knows who on the internet because they are proud of them but because kids get subs, clicks and likes which if monetised leads to money meanwhile the kids have to deal with paedophiles, people getting parasocial with them and being bullied all because they were put on KZbin for their parents to get a payday and not actually have to go and work. Family vlogging is exploitative and turns KZbin into a paedophile's dreamland because they know that they'll possibly get to see little kids nude or in their swimwear and then download the video to put on the dark web. By the way, do you think its okay that these "proud" parents out their kids medical history on these vlogs? Or take away these kids privacy cause thats what family vloggers DO. Children should not be the main breadwinners. Family vlogging is exploitative child slave labour and needs to stop.

[@Sssssssslf]

​@@jurassicroom7673no, people should go back to sharing stuff about their kids with only the people who care about them and not the world wide web. No one else gives af what little Timmy has been up to today. The oversharing these days is insane and bizarre

[@leekenneth-walsh3545]

I have a feeling that in about 10 years or so, we're going to get a lot of children of family vloggers coming out about the abuse they've experienced. This is only the beginning.

[@TvTrollByIvy]

Its already happening, there is one text in particular that the daughter of a mommy influencer posted on reddit, it just breaks your heart.

[@destinymarie9409]

When Everleigh LaBrandt grows up, i can't wait to hear her side of it. That poor girl has dealt with so much on camera, im afraid of knowing what happens off. Her bio dad dying and he was her only source of normalcy....

[@Nosretep]

Ryan's World

[@loureycha]

i can't believe it's gone on this long

[@luminyam6145]

Agree completely.

[@Zoopop13]

my state illinois is one of the first to put laws in place for influences who use their children for content. any money goes into a fund that cannot be touched by anyone but the child when they turn 18 and even after only the child can access it. its a good step in the right direction, but it should never have to be a thing in the first place.

[@Sssssssslf]

I don't understand how this new law can possibly be policed

[@nikkibee139]

@@Sssssssslf This exact law is called Coogan's Law in California and is enforced there all the time for child actors. Because of this law, children will be able to sue their parent(s) once they reach 18 years old in Illinois if money isn't put into a dedicated trust account for them. Additionally, if the state of Illinois is made aware of a child influencer not having a dedicated trust account, they will garnish the wages of the influencer parent in order to establish a trust in the child's name. People slip through the cracks all the time, but this creates an actual legal basis for children to sue their influencer parents for lost wages, which is something that didn't exist for them before.

[@Sssssssslf]

@@nikkibee139 that's great to know. Thanks for explaining how its going to work

[@leosuniverse]

@@nikkibee139 I did not get all my money that was from lawsuits to me as a kid. My parents stole it and they child labored me to pbs and I was not paid properly an physically harmed. Calif. Not in place I don't believe in the early 90s. They were pro dump your kid in middle of nowhere let the men come an harm us. 2 diff. jobs hired me as a kid no adult anything. Very bad thing happened. No way to report to anyone of it then. I legally can not as a kid.

[@Annie_Annie__]

@@SssssssslfThat’s kind of the point. The state doesn’t enforce it, but once a child turns 18, they can then sue their parents (or guardian or whoever) for the money they’re owed. If family influencers in Illinois don’t want to be put in that position, then it is up to them to put aside money every month and keep a record of it. They almost have to put more than the law requires in a trust because it’s so difficult to figure out exactly how much money would be their legal obligation. I know if it were me, I’d be guessing, but always rounding up. At least until there’s an app that can scan a video and tell them exactly how much money to set aside. Lmao.

[@rainyrouge5123]

I wish I could say that I'm surprised, but honestly, I'm not. I mean, maybe none of us thought that it would ever get this horrific, but I think we all knew beforehand that this woman is not what we would call a normal parent. Taking away your child's bed for several months as a punishment isn't normal.

[@gemini.jewelz]

A punishment for pranking his little brother... I mean, it was funny as $h1t and not physically dangerous like most pranks!

[@orionoldroyd459]

Exmo Utahn here. I saw them in a Walmart in Springville on my way home from the art museum, I think maybe in 2021 or 2022? I didn't know they were on KZbin, but I definitely got weird vibes. The kids were totally silent. The LDS church low-key encourages child abuse, subliminally obviously, but there's definitely a strict culture in the church surrounding parenting.

[@chatnoir9038]

I'm glad you got out of that cult.

[@NadieSombraro]

Some of it is Utah Mormon culture specifically, at least from what I've observed. It's a lot more intense and appearance driven, though that's not to say this behavior doesn't happen elsewhere. There's a reason Mormons from everywhere else don't like Utah Mormons.

[@larissabrglum3856]

I live in the Northeast and don't know much about Mormonism. Would you be able to explain why you think the Mormon church is an environment so conducive to child abuse? Most of what I've heard about Mormon beliefs is the more peculiar stuff, like the idea that you can baptise dead people.

[@larissabrglum3856]

I'm not surprised at all that that's how the children would behave in public, in fact that's exactly what I expected

[@orionoldroyd459]

@@NadieSombraro oh, I'm sorry! I wasn't trying to generalize, I really do love a lot of the people from the church. It's the corporate vibes of the organization itself, and I have noticed that it does primarily affect Utah. Thank you for reminding me, and making a very valid point.

[@thecatlimitdoesnotexist]

I’m loving the “Avril Lavigne” fit! Giulia is always slaying though 🤩

[@Nobody-s824]

Agreed!

[@luciellawliet]

Forgetting all the terrible stuff for a moment, that outfit looks gorgeous on you.

[@lavp365]

first thing i thought when i saw the thumbnail. then i read the title and thought- let me enjoy this moment before she gets into this heinous situation. also- i love this hair!

[@TheRealCocoColours]

PREACH! I love it!!!

[@megarakadmea]

My mom has brought me lunch even though I was an adult at work. Among other things I’ve forgotten at home because I was in a hurry. This is just something you do for people you care about, age shouldn’t be a factor in that.

[@CatMom-uw9jl]

I’m a grown woman, married for years, and once when I forgot my lunch my husband, who works from home, brought it to me. Life can get busy and hard, and when people love each other they have each other’s backs and want to take care of each other.

[@test804]

everybody forgets yes but it should be noted that the child was only five years old which makes what ruby did extra heinous AND she told the teacher not to give the child any food so she'll "learn"

[@KreeZafi]

I think age COULD be a factor to some extent, namely that if someone is an adult they at least probably have SOME means of solving their own problem whereas a child cannot. Like, most adults probably COULD get something to eat by some means, so if the person they call for help is busy and can't come to the rescue they may be able to for example purchase something somewhere. But when it's a child there's nothing they can do so if a parent is called for help and the parent is busy, they better make themselves not busy anymore and drop everything to feed their child!

[@SheddyShankbone]

this is so much like the case with the turpin children. i'm sure there is so much more they've done to those kids that we don't even know about yet

[@larissabrglum3856]

I knew Ruby wasn't a nice mom, but I didn't think she'd go full Turpin

[@billieseyelashes]

i thought about them!! horrid to hear another story like this.

[@laurafabianmarrero]

​@@larissabrglum3856nobody did That House is truly a horror House

[@4glencoco611]

Very confused about the Dads involvement in all of this even if they aren't together now It's clear this abuse has been happening for a while so he must have known what was going on. As a parent you'd think he holds some responsibility for protecting the wellbeing of his children.

[@Em_Elizabeth]

From my own experience with a toxic mom (who was clever to never film herself so she never got caught), often times the dad sees it happening and does nothing. He's either in denial or doesn't want to upset his wife by putting his foot down.

[@laurafabianmarrero]

The abuse started the moment they made their Channel But got worse in 2020 hint on Kevin separating from her and acting as a victim

[@lucyjanecruz]

I was shocked to see, on the reddit snark channel, how very many people were condemning Ruby and 8passengers, while at the same time saying family vlogging channels are fine! Whether there is this level of abuse or not, exploiting children by broadcasting their childhoods to the world as your income is abuse! We need laws protecting children on the internet.

[@kobra4422]

Exploiting your child most vulnerable moments is disgusting! I saw a podcast (dad podcast I think) when he explained family channels are watched mostly by pervs. The more nudity the more views.

[@tanithschneider3051]

Family vlogging is fine…there are lots of families- you can have family you choose, your own family with adult kids or heck, even like that Osborne show- the 1 daughter did not want to be part of it and the show and the Osborne’s respected that. You can also have one where you are just chatting about your family and not showing them on screen all the time. But most of these channels? It seems the nastier they get to the kids, the more clicks they get, the more money they make. It’s sick.

[@lucyjanecruz]

@@tanithschneider3051 Family vlogging is fine when all participating are old enough to give informed consent to participate, and to understand the consequences of putting themselves out there on the internet for anyone to see. It is absolutely not fine to profit off of the exposure of children too young to consent, or to understand, especially when their vulnerable and unflattering moments are shared with the world. It is wrong, and there needs to be laws against it. Children have a right to privacy as they grow up.

[@redrubytwilightxx8700]

​@@lucyjanecruza view videos and pictures of young children are fine. School websites and programs post them. Profiting of their everyday life is not.

[@melissanelson1975]

I would love to know what “crime” they committed that garnered being starved and bound with duct tape? I’m so glad to see that the older children are at least get away from the monsters they call mom and dad.

[@chronicmommy]

Hopefully this shines a light on these fundie parenting styles and especially The Pearl Method and the Buddy System

[@Em_Elizabeth]

Yeah, the Pearl Method is messed up. I'm generally desensitized to violence towards kids, since I lived it growing up but hitting a little baby for crying is where I draw the line.

[@missjazz1010]

I've had a college social work course on trauma before. Reading about childhood trauma caused by abuse is one of the most heartbreaking things I've ever heard. Even more so when I learned about how it can fuck up a child in their adult years if not for the rest of their lives if they don't receive proper help. I just don't understand how anyone can harm a child, let alone their own. It's ENRAGING. How tf did she get away with this for so long? I always had a horrible feeling about Ruby and believed she only loved her kids because they brought her Internet fame/clout. If they didn't, they may as well had been dead to her. I hope her, her husband and her business partner all face the consequences to their actions & I especially hope that the kids are alright.

[@suzannah991]

I was abused as a child and got proper help immediately. It still affects my life and I'm 32. Unfortunately, abuse during that brain stage in a kid's life can alter it permanently.

[@billieseyelashes]

i am a csa survivor. didn't recieve help as a child and when i did as an adult it wasn't good. at all (therapists are too often pretty f:ed actually. expect more than i did when searching for help!!). i am 31 and have a better support system today. still in recovery, every fucking day.

[@kobra4422]

Yes and people should realize emotional abuse (neglect, constant criticism) is the same if not worse as physical abuse. The book CPTSD from surviving to thriving Pete Walker is recommended for anybody who went through it. It challenges the popular narrative that trauma is only valid if you were daily beaten.

[@herelieskittythomas3726]

Proper help? There really isn't any because once you leave "therapy" or are left alone with your own mind, real trauma from abuse never goes away.

[@lindsaycook7545]

I'm from Utah. I'm a member of the LDS church. I'm a teacher. That all being said, if I texted a parent about their child going hungry and they responded the way Ruby did to Eve's teacher, I would buy that poor girl a school lunch and then call child protective services. Once cps was called I'd also immediately call the cops and tell them to come meet me at the address of that student so they could arrest me for the assault that I was on my way to commit on said parent. Heartbreaking. Absolutely heartbreaking for these kids. In my opinion, Kevin knew about the abuse and sat back and let it happen. I hope he gets thrown in jail, too.

[@victoriadiesattheend.8478]

You need to get out of the LDS church. You seem okay. You might want to rethink your belief system.

[@Isa.esthetics]

I have seen a rise in gentle parenting youtuber. I’m not a parent but they help me navigate what I wish my mom would say.

[@thinlizzy9032]

didn't know food was a "privilege" now smh. those poor children, i really hope they're in a better place and getting the help and support they deserve. i've complained about my childhood home being dysfunctional but i can't even begin to imagine how awful it must feel to grow up with parents who deprive you of your most basic needs as punishment.

[@angygremlin4423]

It seems like there's a lot of crazy, abusive parents out there. I know this isn't a realistic idea, but I wish people had to take a test in order to be a parent, and I wish allegations of child abuse were taken more seriously. It's like we're willing to blame literally everyone except for the dirt bag parents, even when they do absolutely crazy stuff like depriving their kids of food and water.

[@southbug27]

A huge problem is that even when multiple people are speaking up, police & CPS often just refuse to even look into it or do anything. There’s a reason we had to have an Amber Alert as a federal law, & it’s because even when kids were kidnapped by a stranger, cops would often just sit on their asses, do nothing, & tell the parents they’ll turn up, & of course, they waited until the child’s dead body turned up before they got up & tried to do their jobs. There are multiple cases of CPS & police dropping the ball & getting kids killed, homeless teens are often sexually abused by cops, & CPS workers have been caught pimping out children for sex work. Our system is completely broken just ask anyone what was abused as a child or in foster care.

[@TheThora17]

Wow! I’ve never heard of a case that had a CPS worker pimp kids out before?! Or cops killing and beating homeless ones either?!

[@justarayofsunshine2733]

When i was in grade one a boy in my class forgot his lunch.(early 2000s) we, the entire class, each gave him portions of our own lunches. Unprompted. Because at 6-7 years old, I believed that was the right thing to do you see someone in need of help you HELP THEM. Shame on Ruby for not believing that her youngest child isnt worthy of that same compassion

[@ReturnToSenderz]

The problem with the Franke’s “parenting style” (I hesitate to call it parenting) isn’t that they give the kids the choice between adjusting their behavior and a punishment; that’s the same sort of decision we adults make when we decide if we’re going to follow the speed limit. The problem is that the punishments are completely disproportionate to the behavior and sometimes going beyond punishment into abuse territory. If you’re taking away basic necessities, you’ve gone too far. If my kids are fighting, I’ll take away whatever they’re fighting over or screen privileges for a few hours, *not their bedrooms*. Legitimately, wtf.

[@deboracopeland4795]

The husband left because of her but left his kids to deal with it. I don’t know what I would do if a child showed up in that state. I would feel so bad for them. I would report the parents immediately.

[@CatMom-uw9jl]

I hate when a parent does that. You know it’s bad, but you leave your kids to deal with it? Collect as much evidence of the abuse as you can, hire a lawyer, and fight like hell for custody. Even if you fail, at least the kids know you fought for them, and the moment they’re old enough to have a say in custody arrangements, or turn 18, they’ll know they can come to you.

[@tom1644x]

Hopefully they feed her last when she's in prison. Imagine teaching other people to be a good parent when you keep your own kids in such terrible conditions!

[@CatMom-uw9jl]

And her oldest is NC with her. Kids, especially young adults just getting the hang of being on their own, typically don’t do that unless things with the parent(s) are really bad.

[@carrierhodes3355]

I just read the article and came to find the scoop. You don't disappoint. So glad they finally got her but my mind is blown at how bad it has gotten for those poor kids!!!

[@saged1513]

Sadly I'm never surprised to hear when these sorts of people are from Utah

[@notchamama7571]

Sister girl, you’ve never been “just some random KZbinr.” You’ve always been someone that fought tooth and nail to keep people safe.💜

[@LadyBern]

Those weren't choices those were ultimatums. And as someone once said ultimatums are threats disguised as a choice. Like many i wish I were shocked to hear this, sadly I'm giddy that finally some of these exploitive and toxic family vlogs are getting justice served. Fingers crossed for some of the van life vlogs and that awful arieal family.

[@jaynedavis3388]

I can hear the tears in your voiceover. Take care of yourself Gina ❤ Edit: they’ve been campaigning behind the scenes to get the police to take this seriously for 3 years. They probably didn’t want it to be dismissed as a “social media fight”

[@xoas2132]

I'm ready for the ball to get rolling and other family channels get investigated as well.

[@lavp365]

🤞🏻

[@laurafabianmarrero]

We can only hope

[@berrysnowyboy5251]

Yeah... I hope that the kids from other family channels are rescued because abusive parents that run them cannot get away with using their children as dolls and puppets instead of human beings with the right to exercise their self-autonomy. If parents use their kids as puppets while abusing them and manipulating them in their family channels and outside of them, the parents don't ever deserve kids nor the title of parents to begin with.

[@RocksterStudios-tt3eh]

As much as I wish I can celebrate someone finally getting justice for the lives they ruined, family channels are like a hydra. You take out one and three pop back up. Also, I would love it if you addressed another family channel like this called McFive Circus. The mother calls one of her kids "it" neglecting their other children and seemingly the girl she calls "it", Isabelle, as she constantly speaks in a baby voice and seems in some sort of arrested development. The kids also visibly seem malnourished and I hardly see people talk about it.

[@katherinedonovan974]

It's so gross with these types of people, let's hope this never happens again and in the future, other generations of kids won't go through this hell.

[@Luvandrockettes]

This is heartbreaking! I hope the kid are safe now 💔💔💔 Out of topic, love your outfit tho! You look amazing

[@lr2ldn]

I always thought that Ruby was nuts but I didn't think she was THIS nuts!! BUT glad she's in custody and the kids taken away!

[@nishiniwa99]

I had to pause shortly after starting the video to leave a comment about your outfit. It's so great and gives me inspiration for my own!

[@musicXisXforever44]

Yikes... as a Utahn and a member of that church, we don't claim her 🙅‍♀️

[@oceanicmartian]

nothing enraged me more than hearing about someone harming a child or animal. there’s absolutely nothing anyone can say to justify that kind of cruelty.

[@Batsie31]

thank you for covering these topics and roasting on these horrible ppl! I can't believe you got a C&D on that last video but i also can see that from a person like Ruby. Hopefully the kids get taken away from these monsters

[@alyssabrown-carleton6173]

My 9 yr old boys are begging to make a channel. I told them we would discuss it when they turn 13.

[@Bea-a-deer]

It made me wanna throw up when she was talking about how she hopes nobody helped her daughter/ gives the her food. I provide care to kids her daughters age & if a family refuses to bring a kid food, it is illegal for us to deny that kid food - we could lose our child care license. I’ve made so many lunches for kids who have forgotten (not because parents refused to bring them but because they noticed too late/ close to lunch) If a parent refused to bring their child food we’d still feed the kids & then we’d make a neglect report - my guess is the girl’s school had the same procedure but CPS usually doesn’t act until something bad happens.

[@cheetahcreep]

Been following this since SWOOP reported on it in May, and since Adam talked about the arrest a few days ago. I am so glad she is in jail. just absolutely horrible.

[@tashah8816]

Miss G 🖤 I am here to appreciate and admire your style, yet again!

[@PrimarchRegalious]

Choice goes so far upon honest introspection. Commenting here. 3:44 🥥 You talk like a coconut. There is so much there, and it makes sense° (Read, name, tangent, read, elaborate, repeat) 🥥 Thank you for your hard work. I love you, coconut. 💐

[@尹欣志]

The son climbing out of the window and asking for food reminds me of that one lgbt+ couple who adopted a bunch of kids and used them for their benefit (that picture where a little boy hugs a soldier, don’t remember exactly) but abused them and ended up driving a car off a cliff killing everyone

[@okaycola2]

Thankfully the kids have survived this time

[@liriodendronlasianthus]

Oh yeah, the white women who used their African American children at rallies.

[@sophiaisabelle027]

We appreciate your insights. There's a lot of misinformation out there. Thanks for making things clear.

[@leosuniverse]

Good for you calling it out. Abusers tend to target us online. I just found out about it. Thanks for the summary. Crazy. You explained that choice thing well.

[@maysummers13]

This kinda reminds me of the Turpin kids when it comes to the abuse and it is sad that despite people actually calling out the abuse and involving CPS but I'm not surprised that it escalated to this... Ruby always seemed off even in the Family Vlog.

[@wannabedrewafualo]

It should be illegal to leave a child hungry if you have the resources to feed them and deliberately choose not to.

[@jurassicroom7673]

That pretty much is illegal.

[@wannabedrewafualo]

@@jurassicroom7673 Maybe a better way of putting it is that said law should be enforced more than it is.

[@Em_Elizabeth]

Especially if the hunger is prolonged and it's impacting their health.

[@kelleyreeves965]

I heard about this via the Law and Crime KZbin strategy. I cant say i was super surprised when we learned that she took her teen son's bed away I hope those poor kids dont have to go back to her 😢

[@laurafabianmarrero]

And You want to know what was her excuse Chad was playing around with the little brother and he started crying She took his bed for 8 month

[@NeuroSpicy_Priestess]

It's situational like this that make me soooooo upset. As someone who was in school for Holistic Health and wellness coaching and has a spiritual life coaching certificate, to see "coaches" push the rhetoric and ideologies they have, it's so disgusting to hear and see. Legally our titles are _____ coach, but you are very right that those of us who can't stand the frauds don't always like to use the title. I wish the kids nothing but healing.

[@sawyermoore4720]

As an exmo PLEASE make sweeping generalizations about Mormonism it’s literally so fucking horrendous

[@bigby2k]

I'm glad that Franke was arrested. This should've happened years ago; there was a mountain of evidence.

[@laineygrace9018]

I think all family vlog channels that centre around the child/children are inherently wrong because children cannot consent to being filmed or to having the videos uploaded for the world to see.

[@chatnoir9038]

This!!! It should be illegal to post identifiable or compromising footage of your child on social media!

[@bayleighc.5843]

Do you mean Mama Jill? The young mom on TikTok? She’s so sweet, and I appreciate that she keeps her kids out of her social media. Also, why am I not shocked that they’re Mormon? The Mormon church has a lot of abuse problems.

[@MsRadred6116]

One of her followers on her ‘counseling’ page is Myka Stauffer, the former family blogger who gave up her adopted child after raising a ton of money to cover the adoption expenses. So, pretty big red flag there too. 😳😳

[@LittleRedTeaCake]

I despise them. As a parent, I think it's exploitive and gross. You can make content about family life and as you said, not shove a camera in your kids face. It seems like so many of the channels that are solely family channels, never end well and there are so many teenagers becoming adults who hate that their parents were influencers and that they had no say in their privacy before the age of 18. There was one that I watched for a little, but it was more for her meal planning and budgeting, but I also stopped watching that channel because it started to make me feel uncomfortable.

[@RaineSophiaLewis]

I have four kids and would never plaster them all over the internet. It’s highly invasive and children cannot consent to that. It puts them in danger! I feel so sorry for the children, people knew about all this but let it slide for so long. The kids saved themselves from this horrible situation by climbing out the window. How long would it have gone on if they didn’t? If you see something, say something. ❤

[@Zaners82123]

People need to understand withholding food is so freaking dangerous. When someone says discipline with food it should only be sweets and treats which means you substitute something like ice cream with fruit. Not completely taking a meal or snack away

[@natalierose13]

This entire thing makes me absolutely sick to my stomach….

[@lighthouse-witch]

3:20 at that point it's no longer about choice, but about conditions

[@angelafender]

Never use food as punishment or discipline or a weapon. Shame on people who do. It's toxic an sick an leaves damage

[@Em_Elizabeth]

What if it's a picky kid who won't eat his dinner? It was never done but my parents suggested that going without dinner for a little while would make us more appreciative.

[@Duskyofdaze]

​@@Em_Elizabeth If your kid is a picky eater you try and find a food they like and encourage them to eat it, not deprive them of food till they're forced to eat something they don't enjoy. Forcing children to starve in order to get them to eat establishes harmful attitudes around eating, and can also make a child unwell (children might retch/gag towards some foods and persistent gagging damages the blood vessels in the eyes and hurts the stomach). Your parents suggesting that is an okay method, or that it establishes 'appreciation' is really messed up and they are part-taking in or are encouraging child abuse. Basically any withdrawal of necessities is abuse. You find alternatives, and you work hard to figure out what your child likes/can cope with.

[@angelafender]

@@Em_Elizabeth the rule in my house is , if it's new food. Try it. If you don't like it have something else. It's not a punishment.

[@catheath2858]

​@@Em_ElizabethMy kid was a "picky" eater and I got that same advice. My parents told me to ignore it, I ignored it, and I'm glad I did. I think it's messed up to refuse a child food, but it turned out that my kid's autistic and her "pickiness" is actually sensory issues. Had I followed that advice, I think it would have been really harmful. Even outside of neurotypes though, there are reasons why kids don't want to eat things. Hell, there are reasons why adults don't, but we just accept that.

[@redrubytwilightxx8700]

​@@Em_Elizabeth you deprive things such as sweets and junk food if they won't eat regular meals.

[@elizabanzourkova1035]

Family vlog channels shouldn’t exist. And if they have to exist, kids need a choice if they want to be in a video or not

[@FoxVox]

As a parent who is on KZbin quite a lot, I can say that there are some fantastic family channels out there. Most often these channels will focus on the blogger themselves, the parent. Often time a good family channel will take the time to remove their kid from the content, any identifying markers, and just give good sound parenting advice for other people to take or leave, depending on their parenting styles. Thanks to your channel, Ready to Glare and a few others I’ve learned not to click on, or give any views to family channel that exploit their children. I also let my kid watch videos on KZbin and I have to be extremely diligent about what kind of content pops up they could be watching and alphabet video and alphabet lore comes up, which is certainly not children appropriate Any parent that is chronically online should be demonetized and demotivated from using that platform to further cause harm to their children. But then again, the world wouldn’t know about her awful parenting practices if she didn’t share her dumb content so…

[@madisonmeyer3935]

This kind of child abuse is actually incredibly rampant in the Mormon church. As someone raised Mormon in SLC Its been incredibly common within my circles my entire life.

[@SakuraTenshi101]

I’m so sorry you went through that! I’m LDS (not from Utah/the west), and this whole thing with her “parenting style” just disgusts me. I hate people who try to bend their religion to back their want to abuse people and children.

[@rosebud1659]

OK OUTFITTTTTTT 😍😍😍😍😍 with the wig too. I’m livinggg

[@auggiedoggiesmommy1734]

I lived in Utah for 24 years ….it’s f’ed up …seriously f’ed up. And that church is hard on kids …very hard.

[@bunny.ribbit]

the outfit! 💖✨

[@rodneymills6477]

Sleeping on a bean back will wreck your back in a night. For months? Knowing your bed is there? Cruelty. Jail.

[@syoung4471]

My husband does security ( did a lot of military and high priority contracts) and having my kids out there seems dangerous to me in the first place. People get obsessed and will stalk people. Adults get targeted and sometimes ended. Why would you want to risk that for your children? On top of that deep fakes are made of kids as well in adult scenarios. This entire concept is gross and dangerous to me personally. The lunch thing was absurd at best. As an adult I forget things. You know if my husband punished me for forgetting stuff it would be called DV. Just going to put that out there. I have 4 kids and we encourage them to do things on their own. I've also made it clear it's ok to ask for help and I don't expect them to be perfect. The food thing really bothers me. Ever since my kids were little I have always had things they could get to eat on their own. Denying them food is just cruel in my opinion. This lady seems like a masochist.

[@KreeZafi]

I've watched several videos on this and it's seriously so horrific! I heard the phone call the neighbor made when the boy asked for help and it's truly heartbreaking, you can hear him choke up when describing the state the child is in. The way Ruby (and Jodi) talk about parenting and children is extremely disturbing. Some people really have no business being parents and my heart aches for all the children who have to live with such parents.

[@fletcherfamily6950]

As a teen I was put in a foster home where the parents were in the same religion and a lot of the same parenting style was used in that home. It wasn't OK and it feels like vindication to see these kiddos get help and support.

[@TvTrollByIvy]

I've seen other videos about Ruby being arrested, but none had such a vivid description of how the kids were when found... the image of the kid running, skinny and hurt, looking for help, is beat by beat the intro of "Martyrs". Literally a horror movie. This story keeps getting me dumbfounded as to how it took so long for this woman to see any consequences for her actions.

[@witchghost7324]

9:00 assuming i am thinking of the same trailer mom, she actually blocks out her kids' faces for their privacy!

[@MrSeanw263]

Something is finally being done about this. By the way, your outfit looks great.

[@lilys7431]

I love your attire G, as soon as I saw it my first thought was, can I pull off a look like this? I may be too old for it but, that normally won’t stop me.

[@morganrhodes159]

That lady was one crazy thought away from being lori daybell

[@ChampagneeLovee]

Love your vibe definitely subscribed!

[@sarbear72]

Is it just me or do the parents of family vlogs scream Im a talentless hack ??😅😅😅

[@bugsandsnakes]

The outfit is giving emo spongebob 💚

[@synthmass]

I am hoping the "silence" the sisters referred to was public silence (i.e. not making posts/statements) rather than a lack of reporting to the authorities.

[@Minimojojoy]

Not quite on subject,😬 but I had to comment, that outfit on you is just PERFECTION!!👌😍 Definitely keep that style on rotation!

[@zickykane5206]

Gotta say, Love the look. :) Very stylish. As for this woman, holy shit. Glad people are aware of her horrible behavior. hope the kids are ok.

[@Tara........]

A lot of content creators have been talking about this situation so, I think you're pretty safe. The degree of abuse inflicted on these children is very serious and at this point, there are simply too many people and news organizations to threaten and send cease and desist letters to. Personally, I don't think any child should be put on social media without their faces blurred until they can consent.

[@angelafender]

Why are you always gorgeous. Seriously, I love your aesthetic ❤️

[@BeeKee404]

I am both ecstatic but also heartbroken at the arrest. Ecstatic because justice is finally being served even though my expectations of anything going further than this will happen like I have doubts Ruby will face actual jail time or at least lose full custody of her kids but I hope at least one of those things will happen. I'm hearbroken because it had to come this far for the arrest to happen that one of her children had to have been in the situation where they had to escape after being abused and malnourished. IMO, the arrest should've happened a long time ago.

[@sleepnomore6065]

Dont know this family, but if these kids have been reporting to CPS or 911 for years without action, they really should sue BIG. And all parties should lose their job and pensions and face charges. That's basically co-conspiritor behavior to hear the abuse 2nd hand and do nothing

[@jacquelineglitter4328]

I don't think she'll get away with restraining a child with duck tape and starving those poor kids.

[@BeeKee404]

@@jacquelineglitter4328 I hope not but people have gotten away with a lot worse so my faith in the justice system has been very small.

[@themajesticspider-man6116]

If drip had ranks like video games, you'd get a SSS rank. Platinum rank, even.

[@chrissy9153]

Finally she got arrested I’ve been waiting so long

[@DavidAllanTroll]

You should do a video on V Shred, why am I still getting his ads? I got it on this video and it’s like you can’t escape this guy.

[@NadineCallan]

I am also not the target audience of family vloging channels, never wanted children of my own. I care for the welfare of children do they have food, shelter, education and a safe home? I can confidently say the answer is no for way too many children and that needs to change a lot. I'm so sad that it took so long for those children to get rescued. But happy it didn't take longer or take one of their lives in the process.

[@Minifigure17]

Spitting my food out laughing at: *glaring* "the jokes write themselves, folks"

[@Pepper-sg5rc]

This fit 👀🥰✨ I wonder if “outcry” would be an alternative to “outrage” in the context you were speaking around 1:30? Just an idea

[@14vatochongo]

My brother was a crazy wannabe gangster. Smoking weed sneaking out never answering his phone at 15-16. My moms punishment for him took all the furniture out of his room no dressers no bed-frame he kept his bed my mom took hangers everything. He cried abuse and called the cops and his probation officer but his probation officer is the one who told our mom to do that.

[@Galworld761]

He had a door and a soft bed. Privacy and a safe place to lay your head. Plus, a probation officer? This kid did nothing requiring a probation officer and had his whole room taken away. No privacy or bed.

[@14vatochongo]

@@Galworld761 oh no I was just stating the severity of punishment doesn't fit. My brother deserved it. This kid didn't. Sorry I should've made my point more clear.

[@StonedSammieSue]

@@14vatochongoidk how someone could misconstrue what you originally said ha As a kid who also had a probation officer, we definitely deserve that type of punishment ha

[@Em_Elizabeth]

I remember a substitute teacher telling a story about how she bought her son an expensive temperpedic mattress and he didn't like it. He complained to some relatives he didn't like it so she made him sleep on the floor for a week so he would appreciate the good things he had. (Since there are kids all over the world who have no bed.)

[@ericaallisonc]

In defense of life coach’s. I went through 5 psychologists, none of them were helping me with my problems or giving me the tools to thrive. Hell none of them even bothered to suggest I have ADHD or am on the spectrum. My live coach turned my life around, gave me the tools needed to rewire my brain, was the first to suggest I am on the spectrum (I am). He did in 1 year what 10 years of “professionals” couldn’t.

[@LoLoA89]

I love your Skater Boy Avril look! You are beautiful.

[@PiraticalNonsense]

Family vlogging has always felt scummy to me and I wish it would go away. Not hopeful that it ever fully will, but at least events like this over the years are making people more aware and diligent as to what's going on behind the scenes. Seems that this situation still took far too long to be resolved in the children's favor, but I hope they can find healing in the years to come. And as a side note, I'm absolutely loving the 2000s sk8ter look. Makes me want to go and get an outfit like that so I can feel badass too.

[@whocanitbenow13]

Loving your outfit. ❤

[@GirlYouDontKnow-rx3lm]

Thank God that horrible "mother" is finally facing real consequences! Loved your take on it. Also, as a Christian, it infuriates me when people generalize all religious people with the crazies who make the news. So, thank you so much, Giulia, for not doing that!

[@jurassicroom7673]

Stay focused, goth loving brothers and sisters!

[@jenniferjohnston4403]

Social media tends to bring 😢out the worst in people. I’m not saying everyone is awful but if you have problems, that will be evident.

[@asinelliplatamona8348]

Thanks For Coming Back 😊

[@Marshmallow_Trees]

This woman has HATED, DESPISED her children from the beginning.