College Football...this is embarrassing

[@BearDownCats96]

Has nothing to do with time Has nothing to do with location Has nothing to do with transfers Has nothing to do with opt outs Has nothing to do with the “group of 5” It all is because of money, it was like $300 for a ticket to the fiesta bowl that’s fucking insane and not doable for 90% of Americans, if they want people to come to these bowl games make it more accessible. That simple

[@encycl07pedia-]

Amen. Ticket prices in general are ludicrous and that's not even counting concessions, parking, hotels, etc. Considering the CFI and ESPN has basically made the bowl games look like they don't matter, and it's no wonder attendance is going down.

[@jackiehale3730]

Yes, I have chosen food and shelter over a game...

[@Gabriel-en8nb]

I saw fiesta bowl tickets for like $30

[@BearDownCats96]

@@Gabriel-en8nb yeah and you get to touch the roof while you watch the game

[@RB-.-]

Opt outs and group of 5 definitely plays a significant role

[@surferzapper20]

The problem for attendance is these bowl games need to recognize that they're just that, *bowl* games, not the CFP. It makes no sense for an exhibition game halfway across the country from the schools involved to expect 60-70k people to pay over $100 to watch a game with no implications from the upper deck. Add in the cost of travel and getting a hotel room during the holidays, might as well watch from home.

[@aaront2020]

Back in the 90's and early 2000's most New Years Day games would be sellouts or close to. The opt outs and portal have killed these games. I would be all for them being eliminated if nothing is changed to make them better.

[@rubygreta1]

How about just getting rid of bowl games. Game is played at the stadium of the team with the better record. Game will be sold out. Just like the NFL And road teams often win. Crazy? Championship game can be played at a rotating neutral site. Just like the NFL.

[@GDoggy-em2xc]

They won’t get rid of bowl games until/ unless the bowl games don’t draw in enough of a profit.

[@helo8859]

@@aaront2020 It was the cfp that killed bowl season

[@tonysmith952]

The CFP, ESPN and Greed have ruined College Football! Most people see it and know it is no longer about the sport and the competition, it's all about the money!

[@thecasualatvguy617]

They went for ratings and viewers this round hence they covered 4 conferences and different areas of the country. Plus I don't think they wanted Kirby to win 3, that's not as sexy of a storyline that sells. No team stays number 1 all year, loses by 3 due to injuries and just being tired after beating 3 ranked teams in a row, 2 of the 3 won NY6 bowls. Lol. With a month off uga would beat em all.

[@michaelfortenberry5735]

Checked SeatGeek since I thought about heading to Houston to watch us win it all. Nosebleed seat is a grand. That's not travel expenses, fees, parking, etc. I have a comfy recliner and a huge TV. I'm set.

[@vicariousjohnson9823]

Yeah, the Bad Boy Mowers Pinstripe Bowl really had my attention. First time in 54 years I watched zero college football over the New Year weekend. Great job NCAA.

[@therealjaystone2344]

At least better than the NBA

[@jkmarshall3553]

You've indicated the absolute lowest bar one could set, save for WNBA and Women's Soccer. @@therealjaystone2344

[@RobertDetert]

The bow games aren't sanctioned by the NCAA. FBS is the only college Sport with no post season play of any kind that is sanctioned by the NCAA.

[@noelramirez1551]

​@therealjaystone2344 NBA is better

[@jkmarshall3553]

The NBA sux all dix.

[@Daniel-79]

Thank ESPN for the awful start time for the Sugar Bowl. Other than the Tennessee/Iowa game, they had them staggered with no overlap through the entire day.

[@davefransen5096]

Had the Fiest Bowl been Oregon vs Georgia the stadium would have been full. Oregon got screwed when Liberty was picked to play them . Everyone knew what the Ducks were gonna do to Liberty including Liberty and it would have been much worse has Nix played the 4th quarter. Ducks fans and Georiga fans would have turned out had it been those 2 teams in the Fiesta bowl

[@RobertDetert]

Liberty was the last team in. They went to the Fiesta Bowl because the other 3 non playoff Big Six bowls didn't want them

[@TyDomi]

The same CFP that shanked FSU knew this & still gave Georgia a cupcake even though Liberty had a great season

[@nickmcclellan9623]

I am not an Orego fan but shit I didn't even know Liberty had a football team! I thought they cut that along with other sports so they could do more online Bible classes.

[@GR-bn3xj]

They should have put Oregon vs Georgia and liberty vs Florida State, but they wanted to make sure the G5 team got spanked. They picked the wrong team for one, and used a different philosophy than they did for the playoff teams. SMU should have gotten the spot in the first place

[@fanman71]

Orange Bowl has a stipulation that it takes the ACC Champion vs. the top ranked team of SEC/B1G/ND, so UGA was automatically slated for Orange Bowl.

[@RB-.-]

Its opt outs and the transfer calender. Thats really all it comes down to. Fans can tell when the energies not the same. If the teams play, the fans will come.

[@kamikazefireball]

Agreed the start times are ridiculous. There's actually a few people in this country that still have to get up to go to work or school.

[@Vincent-qq2st]

Thank the insane and embarrassing hiked up ticket prices.

[@kingyeti15]

Feel bad for everyone going to school on January 2nd

[@chalesgolding5314]

College football is dead. Corporate media has rendered the game unwatchable , the amount of commercials are insane…

[@ClaudiusPGreen]

Not to mention these sponsors putting their names on the bowls; I mean, the “Reliaquest Bowl”? The “Quick Lane Bowl”? The “Tony the Tiger Sun Bowl”? The “Guaranteed RateBowl”? Come on, people.

[@aaront2020]

@@ClaudiusPGreen It's been like that for years. Sponsors help pay for these bowl games. Before the Reliaquest bowl it was the Outback Bowl. The Tony the Tiger Bowl use to be the Wells Fargo Sun Bowl, etc.

[@conservatron]

I followed the gamecast because I won’t pay for ESPN. If I were watching tv I probably wouldn’t have noticed the ridiculous amount of non-play time due to prolonged ads/promos

[@michaeljohnson7493]

I noticed they were running commercials on both sides of a kickoff. That’s 4 minutes of ads, then a touchback, followed by 4 more minutes of ads. That’s exactly why I let the games DVR and start them from the beginning at about an hour after kickoff; I can zip through most of it. College halftimes are pretty long, too.

[@tomsmithdeal8286]

Dead? Viewership numbers will be dropping? Really?

[@anncase8673]

You can blame inflation for lower attendance

[@colbydoresey]

Biden did that

[@RB-.-]

Make Bowls Great Again

[@The_vincepryor]

No Greed did that. Biden had nothing to do with it. Blame the CFP and the NCAA. Liberty is an evangelist school. " playing for a higher purpose. " And no one cared. Damn y'all are all haters.

[@josephosheavideos3992]

Are you referring to ticket prices or the number of games themselves?

[@CatsClaw44]

Except inflation is down.

[@michaelokeefe8709]

Penn State team that played in Citrus Bowl was missing key defensive players. That did made a difference. One replacement was a freshman who had never played a snap before the opening kick-off. Why is it fair for fans to spend so much money to see a team play that they barely recognize .

[@bsmitley]

Obviously they've got to change the portal timing to help with some of this. But if you really want to get all these teams to try, there needs to be something that states NIL deals are only rewarded via playing in a bowl game (if applicable). If they want paid, make them play. If they want to be treated like pros, then get on the field and contribute to earn that collective money. That will solve all the bowl issues, outside of the ones declaring for the draft (which I'm okay with if you're actually going to go and not back out).

[@fanman71]

This always happens in the NY6 game that has the G5 team. Same as what happened last year with USC vs Tulane in the Cotton Bowl. I was at the PSU vs. Memphis game & it really does disincentivize the P5 team/fans from going to the game as well as low turnout for minor teams. Just an FYI, PSU had 4 opt outs, including a 1st Team AA OL, a All American DE & both All B1G CB's. On top of that the players that declared but played in the game were pulled from the game in the 2H (when halftime was 17-20), including an All B1G LB, another All B1G DB & an All B1G OG, so PSU wasn't anywhere close to playing all their players. Opt outs suck.

[@tadroid3858]

This was the downside of a 4-team playoff. 8-team is perfect. That's why the NCAA is going to 12.

[@paulg8314]

Obivously I like the 4 team playoff better than the BCS system. But the downside of the playoff is that the NY6/BCS bowls feel less like prestigious accomplishments to have reached and more like consolation games for teams that missed the playoffs.

[@huskerchuck9212]

The 12-team playoff changes things. Those games will be meaningful, and winning your conference (for the Power 4) results in a bye. The 4 quarterfinal bowl games will also be meaningful. As for the rest of the bowl games, they are going to be essentially meaningless for all teams involved. These games will be a chance to try out new players or players at new positions looking ahead to the following season. The gap in time at the end of the regular season and the bowl would give teams time to try things in the bowl game.

[@crypt_yt9328]

The Washington-Texas game didn’t end til past 12:30 est and the Alabama-Michigan game didn’t end til almost 9pm 😂

[@jessecrum9069]

No complaints from Husky fans out west

[@scotttild]

It was absurd they should have the two prime games only on New Years Day. Get rid of the rest of them or play them on different days. I think this is the last year of the meaningless bowls. Anything non playoff is going to go away. You will 8 bowl games with 16 teams and that's it.

[@kevinbond8966]

I wake up at 4am for work. Staying up past midnight to watch a game is ridiculous. Wish they could take the eastern time zone into account.

[@Grafknar]

THE CHANGES THAT HAVE BEEN MADE OVER THE LAST DECADE ARE WHAT’S CAUSING THE PROBLEM. SO WHAT DO WE DO? KEEP WATERING DOWN THE CRITERIA, & MAKING THE REGULAR SEASON LESS MEANINGFUL. ABJECT STUPIDITY HAS DESTROYED CFB. IT’S NOW THE NFL LITE. GREAT JOB, NEANDERTHALS.

[@kylethomas2993]

You either have to have the old days or fully commit to an expanded playoffs you can't just play the in-between.

[@GR-bn3xj]

Not every bowl game was worthless. Yes for some teams they just went thru the motions. But look at a team like Memphis. They beat a P5 team, and beat them pretty good. Their whole perspective of the season is now positive, and they are heading into next year with a lot of enthusiasm and momentum. While bowl games have definitely lost their luster, they still mean a lot for some teams. Just bc a few big teams acted like they didn't want to be there doesn't mean they dont mean something for some of the smaller schools

[@TomManning-cs4el]

They played a home game get a clue next time

[@GR-bn3xj]

@TomManning-cs4el OK Sherlock. Where they played didn't matter. What matters is now a team has a great outlook for next season bc of their bowl game. That's the point

[@TomManning-cs4el]

@@GR-bn3xj They got rid of competition part of bowl game when they went to a playoff the NCAA greed did this

[@maxbialystock254]

I am old enough to remember that the bowl games used to mean something when there were waaaayyy to many at 19 games. Now with the 400 odd games and teams with a 7-6 record making a bowl. The players and the fans both do not give a shit. So why have them? TV money only. Lets hope that goes away

[@johnnybgoode8104]

so tired of media and youtubers acting like the NFL, FCS, Division 2, Division 3 and NAIA don't have it figured out. A real playoff works. Seeding makes the regular season matter. Upsets happen. You can't brag about being in the "big boy group" but then not win it, and be upset someone else won their conference. Play the games, win the games, get your seeding. It's simple. Football was never meant to be ice skating.

[@wiggz2254]

But who tf schedules the fiesta bowl 11 am and the sugar bowl 8 pm local tme?

[@GrizrazRex]

They are going to have to set the B1G and SEC title games as first-round action within the 12-team CFP. That's 4 spots. Put the auto-bids in place for the B12 and ACC, or include those conference title games as first-rounders too. That would be 8 spots of a 12-team bracket, leaving room for at-large bids and a G5 auto-bid. The problem with this model is the non-conference championship game participant *cough* Ohio State this season *cough* getting an easier path to a natty. So there will probably be a future elimination of conference title games. The top conferences will simply get 2 auto-bids (the would-be championship game participants), to be placed in separate brackets. The municipal governments of Indy and the ATL may protest, but the days of an early December game there for a conference crown are likely numbered. Notice that I did not mention Charlotte or the DFW. Those conference title sites would be likely victims of realignment, but also first-round playoff sites. The bowls must be reconfigured, and lessened, but there are too many groups of guys in funny colored blazers with fiefdoms to protect. When the B1G and SEC eventually break away from the NCAA in football to form MCF, we may see a new championship tier of the rump FBS take shape, with some of the lesser bowls becoming playoff sites. It is patently obvious where the aforementioned is all heading. It is just a matter of who figuratively pulls the next Jenga stick or pushes the first domino. All eyes on the possible ending of the ACC, and which schools end up where. That's the one everyone is pointing to. I shall point to another possibility: What happens when the Disney fiscal situation turns bad enough that ESPN cannot guarantee the payouts? Will that be the precipitating moment for the arrival of MCF? Will Fox take the lead in making that happen, thus becoming the de facto home of CFB, including the CFP? Picture the Power 4 as a 4-legged stool with only 2 of the legs having feet. It's a wobbly stool that needs fixing. That's CFB right now.

[@commodorezero]

Conference title games should end but they will not due to greed the empahsis on being a conference champion is partially being done to prop these games up. It also props up the conferences and because of that I don't see the fall of any other conferences impending. Everyones champ makes the playoff and because of this all the major conferences have an inherent value they did not have before. The Pac 12 might even survive. The ACC will just be very very bad without FSU, Clemson and UNC. The worst case scenario of what that could look like is Atlantic Hockey in Hockey where they just never have at large bids.

[@jtjr26]

I think the Group of 5 and the lower-end programs in the new Power 4 are going to essentially be a feeder system for the top-end programs. It's already happening now and I suspect it will accelerate in the future. Scouting talent from these 'feeder' schools is going to become more and more important in the future.

[@tomsmithdeal8286]

Not just in football and not just the players.

[@blastechee-3546]

The problem with these bowl games no one cares about except the two teams playing in them. Everyone only cares about the playoff bowl games.

[@ChrisSadowski-pp1np]

You nailed it.

[@abhijaynmbnvbcv]

None of the ohio state defensive players opted out.

[@RobertDetert]

Problem is Ryan Day sucks as a head coach. Only Marvin Harrison Jr. opted out of the game.

[@thefireshow1]

The Bucks defense played their butts off all night! Just think if Ohio State makes the field goal against Georgia, OHIO State wins the natty! Some smoke heads wouldn’t be saying Day sucks!

[@JDashRider]

Georgia ranked 6th on your bracket....ha, yeah right. It CANNOT be subjective. That's the whole damn problem with college football since the dawn of time.

[@NostalgicSports48]

The games really do need to become cheaper so that families can go together. A lot of games are way to expensive and it hurts attendance. As well as a lot of other factors

[@willieyoung7070]

The start time for the Texas/Washington game was ridiculous. I work at 6am, so I have to leave my place by 5:30. My girl works at 8am, and has to leave by 7~ish (we live on the East Coast). By 9:30:10ish we were asleep. I wanted to watch the game, but I knew that I had to be up early for work. The CFP committee needs to do what’s best for the fans, and forget about the stupid rose bowl. The first game should have started at 3pm (maybe 3:30), while the second game could start at 7pm

[@RobertDetert]

That's because the Rose Bowl is always at 2 PM Pacific Time . So the Sugar Bowl always starts late on New Year's Day.

[@RobertDetert]

Parade at 8 AM. Game at 2 PM.

[@willieyoung7070]

@@RobertDetert we used to have the BCS system instead of the CFP committee. We also used to have five power conferences and now we got three. NIL wasn’t always around, and the transfer portal wasn’t as big as it is now. Times change, so people have to get over it.

[@kevinbond8966]

I'm in the same.boat. wanted to watch the game but I wake up at 4 am. Didn't watch one snap.

[@ringo7561]

That game in Tampa looked like they had nobody in the upper deck on New Year's day.

[@ronniesouthern7829]

Why are opt outs and portals even allowed before the end of the college football season? Begin in the Monday after the championship game and have it open thru the end of January then close it.

[@okchawk2k]

From what I saw, Oregon could have won this game straight up without the officiating help. From bad calls, one-sided calls, and rediculous ball spots against Liberty in the 1st Q, they never stood a chance

[@tip358]

Still like the representation for a group of 5 team in playoff. Yeah I said the same thing about the timing of the game

[@bernardthefourth]

Yah the playoff system should fix this. I think an 8 team playoff would be ideal myself.

[@Malik20055]

I think the big 12 is just committing to be a basketball conference cuz it already was a pretty hard conference to make the tournament originally but now that you add Memphis, Houston, Arizona and Arizona State too plus already having Baylor, Iowa State, Oklahoma State and Texas Tech and you can forget about West Virginia too we can legitimately see 10 big 12 teams make the march madness tournament

[@missouritruckinbear9865]

People are broke.

[@joesalazar2634]

Not only are the bowl games watered down but the tickets are too expensive! Sugar bowl tickets for lower level $700+.

[@Gallalad1]

I mean, I would guess part of it is that bowls don’t matter. Half of the starters for most of the bigger games were not playing and wouldn’t play. So why bother show up for what’s basically a preseason game?

[@Daniel-79]

I don’t understand why they had the two play off games arranged as they did. They should have had Michigan/Alabama in the Sugar Bowl and Texas/Washington in the Rose Bowl. It would have made more geographical sense.

[@65Cobra]

Michigan, as number one, gets to choose which bowl it wants. It chose the Rose because it didn't want Alabama playing a couple hundred miles away from Tuscaloosa.

[@conservatron]

I’d go a step further - top seed gets their home stadium so it can be available to their fans who can’t afford the travel/time from work. Works for the NFL and there’s an actual incentive for higher seeding

[@conservatron]

I’d go a step further - top seed gets their home stadium so it can be available to their fans who can’t afford the travel/time from work. Works for the NFL and there’s an actual incentive for higher seeding

[@susantownsend8397]

Too many bowls. I have not been in favor of the 12-team playoffs but I’m coming around just because there will be more bowl games that have championship implications. On the other hand I want to see my school in a bowl game.

[@thefireshow1]

I love the 12 team playoff! It takes the BS away from closed door selections! Division 2-3 had playoffs for years!

[@andynaz5631]

There were 11 bowls in 1969, 43 bowls today makes going to a bowl game insignificant.

[@terrancewatts4812]

So we’re just gonna ignore how he pronounces DJ Uiagalelei? 🤣🤣🤣

[@randylochtefeld2806]

The transfer portal is open so the student athletes can enroll at their new school before new semester starts. The blame for this mess falls on ESPN who encouraged the super conference structure so they could make money.

[@HazyTom]

Bowls are too expensive nowadays to travel far and all other costs. Not sure you can move the transfer portal though, because the new semesters start early Jan.

[@TyDomi]

espn has caused prices to rise sky high to pay the Power 5 all that tv money! I couldn’t find any local radio here in the Detroit area and this is the 1st yr the Rose Sugar Fiesta Bowl weren’t on broadcast tv 🤬

[@jjheisman122]

The concentration of bowls in the south is too high. It is of course clear, that the fifth Florida Bowl will not have a very high attendance. We need to diversify locations.

[@averykostelac]

Big XII is far superior to the ACC. I can’t stand the B1G, SEC, and the networks and what they’re doing to the sport, so I actually make a point to specifically not give them my viewership numbers. I generally would only watch them if they’re playing a Big XII team and of course rooting against them.

[@somebodyandthem]

Bidenomics working great for these bowl games

[@america1st721]

"All is quit, on New Years Day" go with a 64 team playoff so all the bowls can stay and they all mean something.

[@jonforbes9792]

Winner-take-all playoffs, weeknight games, the transfer portal, and NIL money has college football feeling like professional football. College football used to be about beating your historic rivals, winning your conference, and winning your bowl game (whatever it was). If you did all three it was a great season, and if you did two of those things it was still a pretty good season. College football used to feel different than other sports, but now it just feels like the NFL with younger and less talented players.

[@4IdiotsProductions]

Who had to get to school on January 2nd that’s rough

[@chuckery5177]

Either get rid of bowls bc they literally don’t matter or make them matter by moving the portal and freezing NIL for players that don’t play (prevents another FSU)

[@VianoMusicAcademy]

Hey, it’s a good thing the stadium was half full. It’s better than being half empty.

[@BlimpCityFeeder]

Liberty being a road playoff team in Tuscaloosa, Athens, Ann Arbor or Eugene may be just as bad..if not worse.

[@tommccarthy9140]

They have already announced the CFP schedule for next season First round Friday 12/20 - 1 night game Saturday 12/21 - 3 games, none overlapping Quarterfinals Tuesday 12/31 - Fiesta Bowl (night game) Wednesday 1/1 - Peach Bowl, Rose Bowl, and Sugar Bowl (none overlapping) Semifinals Thursday 1/9 - Orange Bowl (night game) Friday 1/10 - Cotton Bowl (night game) Monday 1/20 - National championship in Atlanta

[@kevinbond8966]

Where did you see that?

[@tommccarthy9140]

@@kevinbond8966 It's on the CFP website

[@jonathanpage2722]

Probably cost plays a factor. I can't afford it. I'd rather watch from home on the comfort of my couch than try to travel somewhere around the holiday season.

[@Dodgers-sw2uk]

so basically it’s 11 playoff teams and then a charity team for the 12 spot. I find it hard to believe Will Howard would be crazy to turn down Riley. No coach has produced more NFL QB talent. Guys that were long shots when they joined him like Murray, Mayfield, Hurts. Caleb was the only one favored to be elite when he joined Riley. If you want to be a starting QB I’m the NFL you join Riley

[@RobertDetert]

Yes the 12th spot is the top team the committee picks from the Group of 5. Would have been Tulane But they lost in.their conference championship game.

[@GR-bn3xj]

The charity team that has routinely beaten their top P5 team in bowl games in the past? The reason for giving them the spot is to keep a few million fans involved in college football. If you eliminate the G5, you eliminate over 60 teams and their fan bases from watching like they do now. They have to have that small sliver of hope to keep watching in the numbers they do. Individually, they may not have a huge fan base, but collectively it's a lot of eyeballs to lose, especially when all of this has been done bc of huge TV contracts. Sometimes you have to do what's best for the health of all of college football and look past the short term goals of an individual conference, other wise, their greed will make them implode. Also remember the argument all the non expansion people had too, if you aren't top 11, are you really in a spot to complain you didn't get in? Yes, it is a bit of charity, but every now and then these G5 teams can surprise someone, and it makes for a good story. As long as they aren't annoying like UCF 2017. Besides, if it is so easy, the big conferences should love it, bc it should be an easy win for them.

[@johantrenier1685]

FCS is the better tournament. Less interruption. Less replay. Less inane commentary. It feels like college football and actual college players. The WR guy on Texas from Georgia 6 years in the finals. 😮

[@65Cobra]

Adonai Mitchell is 21 years old, currently. Are you saying he started playing college ball at age 15? He first played for UGA in 2021.

[@kyle.sterritt]

I’ve thought this for a while, the group of five should have it’s own championship series, realistically those group of five teams aren’t nearly as good as the power 5 teams

[@RobertDetert]

I believe the Group of 5 should have their own playoffs each year sanctioned by the NCAA just like the FCS Division II and Division III.

[@kevinbond8966]

That would be fun to watch!!

[@ulical]

There are too many bowl games, primarily due to ESPN creating them just to have content. I remember in the 70s-80s that you actually had to have a decent record (7-4 or better) to get invited to play in a bowl game. Now, any team with a mediocre 6-6 record plays in a bowl game. In addition, they've turned into boring and meaningless exhibition games. I firmly believe that once a 12 team (or more) playoff system is instituted, bowl games will go the way of the dodo. Can you imagine the NFL or any other league creating meaningless games for teams that don't make the playoffs? Neither can I.

[@maureencora1]

They Should Did the 12 Game Playoff 2023 Last Year.

[@DSBOY33]

Attendance is a real big issue now but another issue is also they not helping the local audience of the teams that make the bowl games by putting it on regular TV instead you have to pay for it for example here in Michigan both bowl and College championship was on ESPN not on regular TV

[@vsauce4678]

12 teams is gonna be so much worse than 4 and auto bids is just horrendous. It should be the best teams no matter how many teams

[@vincentjames7210]

How is 12 teams worse than 4?

[@AuburnFanSince2010]

@@vincentjames7210You’ll see

[@thefireshow1]

I disagree! some SEC teams might have to leave the south to play games! It keeps so many teams in the race for a longer time. Now, more players will play in the games rather than sit out!

[@Robster543210]

40 bowl games is way too much. By about 20.

[@pootypump7440]

For real. Pointless.

[@shortround2030]

The vast majority of Washington’s team is home grown, all their defensive starters minus two didn’t transfer in, and their only two major contributors on offense that are transfers are Dillon Johnson and Penix.

[@nathanjw940]

Liberty went undefeated better than a 2 loss team win your conference.

[@GR-bn3xj]

SMU got punished for scheduling Oklahoma and TCU. Lesson learned was to schedule cupcakes and not challenge yourself

[@01MADCAT]

One issue is bowl games being played at NFL stadiums

[@bobgoetsch8931]

The PROBLEM is TOO many bowl games and teams with poor records

[@bigkahunaburger5185]

Let’s create another division to find a Group of 5+ National Champion for Football. CUSA, AAC, MAC, MWC, SunBelt, SWAC, MVC, MEAC, Ivy, etc. Conference Champs go to a playoff.

[@kmcc01]

The Bread Crumb Conference is akin to a group of 5 now.

[@Mr.MikeBarksdale]

Gee, it's almost like back in the day before we had a single elimination tournament it was almost better.

[@davidbeardsley9646]

I was at the Fiesta Bowl. There were more then 20,000 there.

[@jayminbernhardt4952]

Start times usually cater towards the East Coast… bout time a time is favorable for us West Coast people

[@zanaynay]

I was at the fiesta bowl, and yeah, it was definitely weird to say the least, fun, but weird.

[@njux07]

Honestly, they should had created a playoff system on conference champions. I think that would had given a fair shot to all power and group schools. Seems that is definitely not happening with all this conference craziness. Sad time we live in for this sport.

[@1965Grit]

I have said that for years, the CFP should be based on Conference championships, everyone else is out.

[@kevinbond8966]

90% of the best teams play in 2 conferences. How is that fair to the superior teams?

[@1965Grit]

@@kevinbond8966, simple, if they want in, win their conference championship.

[@kevinbond8966]

@@1965Grit So liberty would be in the playoff but not Oregon? Didn't they just play? How did that go? Wouldn't your playoff just result in the winner of the SEC vs the winner of the Big 10 literally every single year?

[@1965Grit]

@kevinbond8966 ,yes, that could be the case at first, but eventually, I believe that some of the players that the SEC and Big 10 normally get would possibly see an opportunity at some of the other schools and it might start to equalize some of the dominant recruiting issues that exist in college football.

[@davidrutherford7367]

The Sugar Bowl has always been played at that time.

[@DestroyaMusic]

The start times and days of playoff games are absolute garbage. For those of us on the west coast, we basically have to miss the first 3 quarters of the game or the entire game (depending on what time you get out of work) because it starts at 4:30pm PST. I work 12 hours every day so I don’t get out of work until 8-8:30 and it takes 30 minutes to get home. Game’s over by that time because some ducking genius decided to put the Super Bowl of College Football on a fucking Monday.

[@Maddog2020RH]

Big Time College Football used to be the best sport around. The "Transfer portal", "Opt-Outs", "NIL" and money in general have definitely damaged it to the point where it's now "Minor League Football" and I really don't care for it that much. Hopefully the NCAA can get things under control for the future of the sport. Otherwise I guess I'll just start watching D2, D3 and HS where the players are playing for the love of the game...

[@mavrick6088]

That's 1 stadium lol. The rest were full but that is Oregon vs Liberty dude,! They could not have given Oregon a more pathetic matchup and not even Oregon fans wanted to see that blowout even though it was going to be in there favor. Bowl games need good matchups to draw ticket sales

[@Paysoncougarfan.7885]

I would like to see an FCS 24 type team CFB playoff but it is unlikely. So instead, a NIT type invitational for 24 teams, that would be 36 teams and 34 post seasons games.

[@bryantsteury8910]

I suspect Miller Moss just Matt Flynn'd his way into whatever school he wants to go to if OSU brings in another QB that beats him out

[@Alan-lv9rw]

ESPN has killed college football.

[@lettybastien4624]

Thank the BCS & CFP for destroying the magic of bowl games. Allowing teams that don’t even win their division (looking at you Alabama, 2017) to make the playoff.

[@binxbolling]

The schools get paid big, and the networks sell mucho adds. The gate money is negligible in bowl games.

[@Avoicecyringinthesuburbs]

Wouldn't schools with good teams make so much more money by advancing through a large playoff, rather than just one bowl game?

[@zplapplap]

It’s college football. How many games in a season is too many?

[@richh650]

People may not realize that the ACC was 6 and 4, against the SEC this year.

[@SteveGee1986]

For the love of Pete, please just go to a 32 team playoff, just like 1AA, D2 & D3.

[@nwalker6900]

I’m so mad after Texas lost even tho we gonna win next year bc our secondary is gonna be very good and we should be unstoppable

[@killbaal4149]

Sark teams are notorious for lacking discipline and having morbidly obese linemen. I wouldn’t bet on it.

[@dieg]

Ncaa football is just becoming an extra professional league next to the nfl.

[@mavrick6088]

Dude do you even know what your talking about? Michigan brought in a 5 star lol from Stanford. A center from Stanford who was considered in like the top 5 best centers in college. A starting tackle from Arizona State that was a 3 year captain and a stud from northwestern this year so I'd not really consider those smaller schools per say nor were these kids low star recruits in highschool. You made it sound like they went to Utah state and pulled out a 3 star kid

[@ssmrmgb]

Why was Liberty in this game?

[@shaunmolamola9923]

FSU did not lose by 60 because of opt outs. Georgia would have steamrolled the playoff. They just didn’t show up in the SEC championship.

[@dying-breed]

😂 Kirby actually said his self FSU did not have their full arsenal hence it would have been a different game.

[@RobertDetert]

Except for the 2 playoff games all of the other bowl games are meaningless exhibition games. With the injuries the transfers and the the opt outs you can't blame the fans for not showing up.

[@jasonc0604]

The bowl system has been dying for years. The CFP and NIL will kill it off completely. Might as well expand the CFP to 24 or 30, reduce the regular season by one game, and eliminate the meaningless bowl games outside of being sites for earlier round CFP games.

[@jimwedge7668]

What, Liberty Nation doesn’t travel well? In fairness, the van had a flat tire.

[@Maxshantz18]

Bro it’s Oregon vs Liberty, no one is going to watch a blowout

[@rednose1966]

I love to attend games but I do not have the money or time.

[@jimafton5659]

Used to go for 1 / 3 of the fans from each team and 1 / 3 of the fans from the local area Out priced the local fans

[@roaddog1973]

Better pairings would have been Oregon and Georgia, Iowa and Liberty.