Colnago resuscitates rim brakes with their latest C68!! Where the cycling industry is going?

[@Freespirit555]

Rim brakes are just awesome!! Easy maintenance, they work well, not problematic and we need to see a revival of them!!

[@alistairmacfadyen9365]

Great vid, I still believe that there’s a market for rim brake set ups, bravo Colnago

[@montrose252]

Rim brakes for the win! Long live rim brakes and mechanical shifiting!

[@seni0rbid0n]

c68 rim not support mech

[@montrose252]

@@seni0rbid0n Indeed, unfortunate.

[@IlPinnacolo]

I will never buy a disc brake road bike. Bravo to Colnago.

[@hernanhernandez3861]

I just built a Ti frame with the latest Shimano 12-speed rim brake with Zipp 404s. I love it. Doesn't stop as well as my disc brake but it is lighter, less complicated, easier to maintain, pads last longer and no noise!

[@madyogi6164]

Yes, I'm staying with rim-based brakes/frames.

[@sonny6893]

Colnago + Campagnolo Super Record EPS 12v + rim braches very nice 🔝🔝🔝🇮🇹🇮🇹🇮🇹👏👏🏻👏👍👍🏻

[@maniastrat]

Very happy when I saw this too! It is a good sign that top end has not forgotten many rim brake riders....but....They should know that most rim brake guys are also pro-mechanical guys not wanting batteries/servos/wires/switches...but prefer simplicity/reliability same as the reason they still love rim brakes right?

[@ianthurston1948]

I bought a c50 17 years ago and it is still my ‘go to’ summer road bike. Love it

[@tommyfreckmann6857]

Any idea of how many miles you have on it?

[@ianthurston1948]

@@tommyfreckmann6857 well I am a bit of a light weight when it comes to distance, I do about 2500 -3000 annually so I reckon the frame has done about 25000 summer miles 😀

[@tommyfreckmann6857]

@ianthurston1948 that's awesome that you have kept it that long! I own a C40, and it is my forever bike! They don't make them like they used to.

[@aragorn318]

I just bought used 2019 rim brake road bike with carbon wheels from a seller in Italy and I love it.

[@Nehpets1701G]

The Dogma F with rim brakes is so dang beautiful 😍

[@jcagara08]

Couldn’t agree more, the one Amico Federico reviewed before, in Plutonium Flash colorway. Still wanting that build until today….

[@knedragon]

@@jcagara08 I couldn't agree more , I built a High Spec Pina F rim brake in Pluto Finish .... she hits the scales under 5900 grams running big 65's / tubeless setup . I sent Federico some pics way back when she was first built. Did a nice 55 mile ride this morning , still makes me smile and everyone drools over her . Build em so you can eat , rim for the win .

[@savagepro9060]

The MOST beautiful! Shucks I just see what I did there.

[@TheBarts27]

Great news. I still have my Sl6 S-works rim brake bike with Sram Red and Fulcrum 55mm carbon wheels and this bike rides so smooth and agile. I ride my Sl7 S-works most of the time due to the weather, but nothing beats the ride quality of a good rim brake bike.

[@fede1275]

It would still be nice to have a top end bike choice, even if in smaller numbers

[@javiersmith2216]

I rode to work today in the tail end of a hurricaine. The rain was coming down harder than 2.5cm per hr. I was actually laying skids. No problem skidding in an inch of water w single-pivot 30-year-old side-pull rim brakes. Imagine that. They were properly adjusted. It was a warm rain and now i have to dry out my shoes.

[@fede1275]

@@javiersmith2216 I have to say in the wet I ride the bike with aluminium wheels

[@stfu6397]

5:23 same here, Dogma F rim brake in a MyWay gold and black color scheme would be the absolute dreammmmm

[@davidrees1840]

Yes, I'm happy about it too! I hope it becomes an industry trend. I would also really like to see Colnago make a top-level (higher than the Dream) road bike from aluminum, because some of us are not willing to pay so much for a carbon frame that can't be recycled.

[@TESTA-CC]

Thank You Brother & Colnago🤙🤙 I am still using Peugeot Perthus Pro Reynolds 753 With Rim Brakes and down tube Shifters & Vitus 979 Duralinox old school mechanical.

[@fede1275]

Fantastic, I used to dream about the Peugeot I used to see in the bike shop when I was young.

[@TESTA-CC]

@@fede1275 Ive Always wanted a Vintage Columbus TSX Colnago but the prices are very expensive Fede 💰

[@tommyfreckmann6857]

Colnago C40 is literally my dream bike and when a frame is well developed, like the C40, the ride on 25mm tires is better than on 30s. I have the Dogma as my race/training bike, but my C40 will never leave the fleet. And being all modernized, there is no difference in aero in my tests. Plus, the C40 is so unique this day and age, and was hand crafted in Italy and opposed to most manufacturing in Asia to maximize profits.

[@fede1275]

Looks fantastic indeed

[@robertstan2349]

yay for rim brakes!

[@bikemike1118]

Rim brakes: easier & way cheaper to maintain, less rotational weight, less hassle 👍🏼. Good stuff is always coming back after some time!

[@NJLinSpain]

Another excellent and entertaining video. Thank you. I have a Pinarello Dogma with rim brakes. Perfect for my rides in the coastal mountains of southern Spain. I love the convenience and the ease of maintenance of rim brakes, and since I hardly ever ride in the rain, I have no complaints about their performance .

[@fede1275]

Thank you, great bike for great roads!

[@albertosantangelo6872]

Time last year decided to stop doing rim brakes bikes and then they announced that a rim brakes version of their climbing bike was coming back

[@CoolGrey7Man]

That's great that Colnago is doing that, hopefully other manufacturers will follow. There is a huge market for rim brake bikes still. I ride a 3 year old rim brake Dolan Rebus. The frame is in great condition, riding strong still.

[@fede1275]

There would be some interest for rim, not huge unfortunately. I just hope there will still be some consideration for the rim minority

[@mikeh6286]

Danger! The cycling industry does not approve of this video. 😂

[@fede1275]

Or maybe they will when they need to change again... 🤣

[@mikeh6286]

@@fede1275 Like clothes coming back into fashion....

[@gc641]

Time bicycle is coming out with a rim frame….really like the way they ride, my izon is one of those bikes that goes with the flow, very well balanced for me.

[@gabrielfernandeztattoos]

Yeeesssss rim brake will comeback, at least for climbing bikes! 💪🏼💪🏼💪🏼

[@gabrielfernandeztattoos]

But something has to be done cos my hypers don’t brake in rain, 🤣🤣🤣 I just put the blocks they send with the wheels to see if is different, cos with dura ace blocks for carbon that thing don’t stop! 🤣🤣🤣

[@Junnys_Bicycle_Hoard]

Hopefully they sell out.

[@alwynbo]

As soon as I heard the rim brake C68 release was coming I knew a Fede video wouldn’t be far behind!! Fair point on the groupsets and the bike is being marketed with the ‘previous’ Campy SR EPS group set, which along with shimano DA are the 2 high end group sets still available in rim. Oh and great video!

[@fede1275]

Yes, it's a pity groupset manufacturers can't offer more options these days

[@sandydennylives1392]

Rims 4 evar. Got disc's on my heavy steel cloddy, only rear still works these last 8 years.

[@E.T_rode_bikes_As_well]

Just bought a rim brake madone for 1k, can’t be happier.

[@james.shafiei]

Very happy with my rim brake S-works SL6 - no need to wait for an SL7 with rim brakes!

[@fede1275]

SL6 is almost peak road bike indeed

[@storegga]

So on point. Maybe the industry starts to make groupset for rim surely very easy compared to fluid reservoir. That or like you say wheeltop on colnago must happen realistically

[@vincefava7929]

Have a C60 rim since 2017. For those that are weight weenies, it is barely UCI legal (sub7kg). My go to bike with 40,000km + on it, and still the ride is sublime. The C68 rim geometry is basically identical....so that would mean no reason for me to 'upgrade', but for those that are thinking of doing so - the ride is amazing. Ciao.

[@fede1275]

Beautiful bike!

[@fastbikes67]

Thx for covering this topic. I still ride my Look 695 SR with SRAM etap and it feels light and nimble. The rim brakes stop as good as my SL7 disk with better feel and modulation. I think there’s a place for rim brakes especially among higher volume/mileage cyclists.

[@simonskeggs7284]

I currently have a 2021 Giant Propel disc, love riding it. Planning on a C68 build next your all being well🤞🏼 Great vid by the way👍🏼

[@CycoPatPonfe]

Yeah! RIM BRAKES! 👍

[@danilofrancisco1263]

I have nothing against disk brakes but I still prefer rim, I don’t do wet riding so I’m good. C64 Colnago staight campy super record. Old school and purist.

[@guyboycecam1636]

Ditto, I would imagine ther are loads of people who fall into this category

[@Tuffjobs]

I’m after a groupset with no cables and rim brakes. Wireless derailleurs and rim brakes. That’s my dream 😊 - for safety reasons I’m happy to have brake cables 🚴

[@knedragon]

"Ol Mabel " is still going strong with a few updates , Darimo post and drag bar, rim for the win!! I'm after a set of Cane Creek EE Platino DM brakes or even the Silver with black half half option( not sure the name of these ).

[@jameshoward9700]

So glad they're making this, but a shame there are no mechanical rim brake go upsets now - especially from Campagnolo. For me, my C64 Mapei, Dura Ace rim brake mechanical, alloy bars with Mavic Haute Route tubulars (6.8kg inc pedals, cages, mounts in a 56cm) ,offers a sublime ride and response.

[@talibe801]

Rim brakes all the way,at least for me and some that have several bikes and lots of wheels to change.wind,wet,etc.

[@universe-juice]

Thats very cool. Ive never owned a colnago. Want one pretty bad!

[@johnnyaxelsson6666]

Rim is the Win👍👍👍🙏

[@pantani9886]

Federico, I have rim & disc! I built up a little used, custom orange Bianchi Specialissima, last year. It had Shima(NO!) Dura-Ace, and other bad stuff on it, so I got it all off, and sold it all off quickly. Brand new Campagnolo Super Record 12-speed EPS, Campagnolo WTO Wheels, ENVE bars & stem, special order Selle SMP F30 carbon saddle, etc. Total was about £8,000!!! I had a Colnago C60 with 11-speed SR EPS, Bora wheels, etc, but I was told the wrong frame size by 5 Colnago dealers. Second bike fit, found stem too long, with bars to wide, with ENVE carbon 38cm bars & 80mm stem to sort it(£770!!!). It did not look right, so I had some of my pension to get a C64 in my right 56s size, with someone having a Campagnolo equipped, disc version. I said I did not need the saddle, bars & stem, as I was getting the Deda Alanera bars I wanted originally, pedals were not included, but it had the WTO wheels in the 60 size. Shifters were Record, with Record front mech, and Super Record chainset & rear mech. I am having it changed to SR EPS, from mechanical, but this time have bought the bits myself, which has saved a fortune, with some really cheap prices for brand new kit!!! When I went to get the Deda bars, I was told of some big news coming soon! A few days later, they announced the newer, lighter RS model with a price of nearly £800(so I put my order in!!!). It is in more sizes, including my 100 x 40, but there is a waiting list for them! I am just waiting for the call to say, they have arrived, to get it built-up. I had the external interface, and special bar mount, but newer RS model will not take, so had to get the internal bar end interface! I have saved on saddle, bottle cages, and pedals, by transferring from the C60. I had another F30 carbon saddle, ordered for the C60, from previously(£275 each!) The C64 will cost about the same, although selling the C60 has been a pain, with me having to sell some bits separately, but someone bought the frame, groupset & wheels, yesterday, although at a cheaper price! My other bike is a virtually unused, Bianchi "Pantani Replica" with Campagnolo Record, and "Pirate" saddle! I have all his 1998 kit, including the original yellow presentation jersey(sourced from Roma!). Imagine the look's I get!!!

[@fede1275]

Wow, unbelievable attention to details!!

[@T_G_C_]

you’ve received a like from this Colnago rim brake bike owner

[@trajtemberg]

I wish we could get a road frame with hidden triathlon brakes. Both aero and light.

[@SecwetGwiwer]

Actually, Time released a rim brake Alpe d’Huez very recently.

[@fede1275]

Nice one!

[@borano2031]

You need good brakes on a climbing bike because you first go up an d then down, sometimes steeply down. So Time believes the rim brakes is the best choice?? What have we been told the last 6-7 years about best brakes?? Can anyone explain this?? Rgr

[@fede1275]

@@borano2031 I personally like a rim brake bike to go uphill as it's lighter and more responsive than an equivalent disc brake one. On the descends I go down carefully, in the dry I never had a problem, in the wet I have to be very careful. On balance I prefer this solution. I would never brake hard on a bicycle, due to the narrow tyre and light weight. Some think you can brake like on a motorbike, that's not the case. You do need however know how to brake not to heat up the system

[@borano2031]

@@fede1275 You know it, I know it. The business say they´re suicide... Rgr

[@simonwarmer8777]

It’s a very nice thing to do so from Colnago, but because of changing the same frame/fork from disc to rim, it’s even heavier. Lightweight should be one of the advantages of a rim brake bike. But still 👍

[@abhimawa1]

This bike is one collectible item. They will produce it in very limited numbers if not mistaken. Looks gorgeous, timeless. However, it’s not ‘sexy’ for some. Hence, the very limited coverage of this bike. Il ciclista italiano su bicicletta italiana deve essere fantastico! 👌 🇮🇹

[@fede1275]

And those pictures on the website in the Italian village, amazing scenery

[@abhimawa1]

@@fede1275 impeccable views, indeed. My concern is the components compatibility. Well, I guess this is the perfect celebration gift for one who has graduated from this hobby.

[@petrsittek1021]

This is lots of people waiting for.Rim brake is pure road look no like mountain disc brake hybrid

[@JSC131]

Thank God at least Colnago still considers all cyclists beautiful bike love rim and still ride my SWorks venge 2014 6.9kg.

[@PKer87]

100% top line frame and wheels with rim brake. I go 1 further and advocate for the dura-ace 9000 mechanical groupset. A bike should be as simple and light weight as possible with aero benefits.

[@cicliolmo7152]

interesting. I wonder if one of their sponsored high-pro (maybe like Pogacar) requested a rim brake bike for his own use and Colnago decide to put it into production. I must say that's a beautiful bike.

[@fede1275]

Pogacar wanted to keep the rim V3RS, but they had to change to discs

[@RookYZRM1]

Damn it! Was hoping for selfish reasons my C64 would be the last rim brake C-series.

[@n22pdf]

Well done Colnago, quick release skewers to awesome 😊❤ shame it’s only in black not for me 😢 and I can’t afford one of course.. Pete 😊 🚴🏻👍

[@tonyvitiello9897]

Here’s what happens. All the big talk about wanting high end rim brake options but the same people won’t pay high end prices. They just want to keep their old bikes which is fine. Plus plenty of used ones available at affordable prices.

[@richardseverin8707]

Good morning Fede !!! That colnago is a thing of beauty, but at £6300 for the frame blimey !!! I don’t think I’ll be seeing one anytime soon in the wild even on the Windsor bun run to cinnamon cafe 🤣. As you say if it was a choice of rim brake then I’m with you 100% got to be the Dogma F. I’m just about to take my rim brake Allez out for a spin for an early hook up with a couple of mates & I will leave the disc brake Pinarello’s at home today . Have a great Friday & keep up the good work on the channel 👍🏽

[@fede1275]

Thank you Richie! It will be definitely hard to see one, but it is so nice they did it!

[@alizfe1]

Me gusta muchísimo los frenos de pinza. Me gustaría comprar ese c68

[@JeffBraumberger]

Love my Cannondale super 6 rim. I never ride in the rain so really don't need discs and light the lightness of my bike.

[@fede1275]

Such a nice bike

[@madyogi6164]

6:38 If you want way better hidden cabling in handlebar/headset - try Taiwan brand ELVES. They have a decent RIM-based / priced FALATH 2022 frame.

[@marcdaniels9079]

Very interesting video. I just bought my dream bike a SH 2018 Cervelo R5 Dura Ace DI2 with rim brakes. It’s a dream and a bargain price. Beautiful scenery! Where is that ?

[@fede1275]

@@marcdaniels9079 this is in London, Richmond Park on my way to work

[@marcdaniels9079]

@@fede1275 Nice. I know it well. I lived in St Margarets 1977 to 84. Watch out for the deer.

[@simonbaker1591]

I have a c64 rim with mechanical gears. Probably the best bike I will ever own. The next bike no doubt will be disc but only as it’s difficult to find a quality rim brake offering which is a real shame for those that want the choice. IMHO its sad that the narrative is pushed that rim brakes are somehow dangerous. The reason to move to disc is purely because the industry are pushing it that way. Or now maybe not…

[@fede1275]

Definitely discs have their advantages, I just hope to have a small run niche still alive

[@seanlee7670]

Personally as a leisure rider, I still prefer lighter bike with rim brake. Easy maintenance/service, bike more responsive and climb faster.

[@BS-jb9wv]

The price for the frame is wild.

[@fede1275]

😅

[@user-d32658]

I have 3 racing bikes and can directly compare old (rim brake, analogue shifting) and new tech (aero, disc brake, electric shifting) and can clearly state that the new tech is far superior.

[@fede1275]

@@user-d32658 and the majority of riders are with you on that. I am just asking not to cancel the small other minority 😀

[@repiola174]

A rim brake nowaday is niche. A 7k rim brake is even more niche. The exclusiveness is the only argument I could find to justify the purchase of this bike when you could have a Tarmac SL6 for half the price. Thanks Federico for your good video. Always a pleasure to see you smile on your bike.

[@fede1275]

Great point

[@riazpatel5296]

Custom restored 2014/5 Dogma 65.1, BoB, Talon 40cm, 0 setback seat post, racing zero carbon wheels, Red 11s, EE brakes!!!! That seat post is difficult to find, it is the missing piece for my dream build.

[@fede1275]

Great spec!

[@Keyprinciples9]

A great steel bike like that should be a common option that you can go to any bike shop and get for around $1600, The bike industry is like the American Auto industry, they push what they want to sell for the most profit while ignoring what would be best for the customer.

[@javiersmith2216]

In economic terms it is called the prisoner's dilemma - making people pay more than they need to.

[@logojones96]

Think it's super cool, I remember when they announced it last year. Still dont think it means much for the industry other than the Italian companies have the funding to release expensive rim brake options still. Pinarello still has the last dogma f in rim brake as well. Love it but would be shocked if it has an effect on the industry. I still like my rim brake bike too though lol

[@fede1275]

Just to keep the very small rim offering alive it is good news to me

[@logojones96]

@@fede1275 oh it definitely is totally agree there. The c68 is a beautiful bike too

[@bb-r5710]

Nice video ❤

[@ernestoechevers4741]

Not just posting it I will get one of those frames already connected my local colnago distributor to know ootions available

[@neilhyland1163]

if shimano , sram and campagnolo can fit hydraulic braking in there brake/ shift levers they can easily fit rim brake cable in the levers. Campagnolo in particular would have , i believe , a huge market if they made there latest wireless esp group rim brake

[@fede1275]

They could definitely offer the option, Wheeltop managed to do it, they could do it as well

[@1afterthep]

yes, depending on where you live and ride you never need disc brakes

[@markusflamm3843]

C68 with rimbrakes. The Bike of the Bikes.

[@tmac6406]

Have a Cilnago V1R with Rim Brakes and Campagnolo EPS...so may the guys need to search for some older stuff 😎

[@JohnSmith-ck5qk]

it is kinda cool but i feel like if you want rim brakes, might as well just get a Colnago Master frame, which they still make in 2024

[@fede1275]

I looked at it while checking Colnago website, it's amazing

[@tinniswood2577]

Banksy - a pound shop Tony Hart! (I also love rim brakes).

[@dougpence3862]

Tadej wants to take a rim brake bike up the mountains?

[@fede1275]

@@dougpence3862 they had to work hard for him to like the new V4RS disc...

[@eddysobieralski8075]

You'd better get saving Fede! 😎 12 speed DI2 is available with rim brakes...

[@fede1275]

My excuse is that it is impossible to find...

[@eddysobieralski8075]

@@fede1275 Let me help by removing that excuse... it's available now in the UK - just search 'DI2 rim brake groupset'

[@Chris._P._Bacon]

That is a proper bike.......just get rid of that ridiculous electronic crap.

[@Millicente]

Hey Federico I was wondering if you can do a new commuting guide video? Thought it would be useful for people with the colder months approaching and with so much experience doing it in the rain

[@fede1275]

@@Millicente I have done a couple in the past, but might need to put the info together in a better way

[@Millicente]

@@fede1275 Yes, I’ve watched those! I believe it’s been a while since you made them so just thought since the channel has grown, a lot of people may have purchased bikes over the summer, and it’s a very wide topic that applies to people on all kinds of bicycles, that it would be nice to see.

[@ikawpipa]

4:34 i think its an art. an IBEX looks for the highest point to avoid predators.

[@fede1275]

Banksy added some more animals in London recently

[@iMadrid11]

The big surprise here is Shimano quietly released 12 speed Di2 Dura Ace and Ultegra rim brake groupset. There’s no rim brake options for 12 speed 105 Di2 and mechanical.

[@fede1275]

Yes, but it seems also impossible to find any of them. My dream set up is wireless lightweight electronic in rim. If Wheeltop managed to come out with half a decent option, why the big names can't do it?

[@williamsharrett1283]

Trek Madone SLR with Campagnolo 12 speed with rim brakes

[@jrnlundsgaard5896]

Best ride feeling = Bianchi Oltre XR4 rim brake and mechanical shifting. (But disc brake bikes does brake better)

[@kurtallen8837]

I wonder if any of the top manufacturers will follow suit

[@fede1275]

Maybe not, but it's something

[@Caedo01]

I wonder if the pros would ride this.

[@fede1275]

No chance 😂

[@alexgalitier1322]

Rim brake ❤

[@lorenzodestefano4043]

you ideal bike: Bianchi xr4 rim brakes the peak of rim brake bike

[@fede1275]

@@lorenzodestefano4043 nice one! It comes maybe second only to a Dogma F in rim

[@krisbowditch827]

Super record mechanical shifts like a dream, on par or better than sram red etap 👌

[@fede1275]

Yes, but they wanted only electric on this C68. I like mechanical as well, but it is definitely a cleaner set up with just the brake cables and wireless

[@tommyfreckmann6857]

@@krisbowditch827 miles better than Etap! I have had Red Etap since it debuted, and it is so slow compared to Campy mechanical. I think Campy is the fastest shifting of all groupsets.

[@Eirikkinserdal]

Shimano still sell 12 speed rim brake groups. It's wired though

[@fede1275]

I believe they should have an option for electrical rim, maybe only 1 version to still cater for the minority of rim brake users

[@Sweetskis]

I want more than anything an endurance geo rim brake frame that will take 30c or 32c tires. Disc is too fussy and requires too much maintenance. I’m just a casual rider.

[@orlyone121]

Ciao Fede! I got excited seeing Siroko's cycling garments lineup, using your promo code they have great offers! May I ask, how tall you are and which Siroko jersey/bibs size do you wear? It would help to choose the right size for me. Thanks a lot, all the best! 👋

[@fede1275]

Great! I am 185cm tall and around 86Kg. For bibs I use L as other brands I had before like Rapha, dhb, Endura. For Castelli I am XL. For the summer jerseys like M2, M3, SRX and Gravel I wear M as I like them tight. For winter jerseys like M4, J1 and J3 I wear L.

[@Millicente]

Personally I feel like if I was going to buy a rim brake bike I'd rather just buy an older bike. There was a time when all the most advanced bikes were all rim brake so they're all out there on the used market and many are going to be more aero or just as light/lighter than the new colnago. I'm sure newer carbon layup tech might make the colnago more comfortable or stiffer in the BB without the harshness that used to be the tradeoff for it, but you'll save a ton of cash. I know some people say this about the new disc brake bikes but for me they're different because I value the new wider tyre clearances and thicker tubes allowed by the UCI now.

[@fede1275]

I am still very tempted by the older Aeroad in rim, beautiful bike!

[@savagepro9060]

0:30 The first time a big mother . . . WHAT?

[@fede1275]

It's manufacturer 😂

[@davidgoon1978]

😂😂😂😂😂

[@savagepro9060]

@@fede1275 I just to had to subscribe. I did!

[@paulhiggins9492]

What a surprise a seller at last, robbing cartel industry, well said you.

[@JMcLeodKC711]

This is so Tadej can win the Vuelta in 2024…..think I’m wrong?

[@fede1275]

Not sure if this is linked, but for sure Tadej had difficulties adapting to the new disc V4RS

[@AM1780]

Did I see you in RP today? I was on a C60 rim brake

[@fede1275]

Not today, I was there Saturday. Nice bike, would have been nice to see it

[@alexandermalyavin4030]

Жаль что перестают производить велосипеды с rim brake. Я 3 года езжу на дисковом велосипеде и понимаю что эти диски не нужны. Еще совсем недавно все ездили на rim brake и все было хорошо.

[@fede1275]

Абсолютно

[@miguelduhamel3394]

One thing they forget to mention....changing a flat...rim NO problem...disc a little more difficult...always skip that part 😅

[@fede1275]

@@miguelduhamel3394 that's true

[@swites]

Great a few manufacturers are doing modern rim brake frames. However for traditionalists like me, being e-groupsets only is a bit annoying. If you get a new frame, even if rim brake compatible it is electronic only so your older mechanical groupset won't fit. Then of course they stop making mechanical shifters/ groupsets because its so much easier and cheaper to make electronic ones with much fewer moving parts, and full of more plastic, rather than metal. I just hate how everything is electronic and needs an app to do anything with these days!

[@fede1275]

@@swites yes, it leave you some doubts for the future thinking that if the app is no longer working you would not be able to adjust your gears anymore. But it is pros and cons of analogue vs digital

[@swites]

@@fede1275 True. I do love the idea of wireless systems- just a bit beyond my budget. My friend had one of the first generation sram 11sp ones but the battery clip broke off his rear derailleur so he had to tape it on each time after charging to get it to work! Quite expensive to replace these new high tech derailleurs these days when before it was just a few hundred dollars.