Every Dwarf Legendary Lord Ranked from Worst to Best | Total War Warhammer 2

[@Adoak1]

I miss when Ungrim made his slayers not die until below 50% health. Ungrim, a runesmith, 18 slayers was a doomstack.

[@nickmillo8367]

When did this change? I still use that doomstack!

[@Adoak1]

@@nickmillo8367 December of 2020. It's now if they drop below 75% instead of 50%

[@calebbarnhouse496]

its so stupid they nerfed ungrim, yes it was a strong army but the build wasn't even as strong as any monster spam besides maybe giants

[@irgendeinname9256]

Hate when doom stacks are the most effective

[@JWootton]

Commenting for the algorithm

[@user-th5fz4xr3t]

Might need to redo this soon :P

[@tubbstubbs.5311]

I like that Grombrindal is part of Thorgrim's faction. I like to think that Thorgrim has put Grombrindal in charge of leading his armies, while he stays at home dealing with diplomacy and state matters, being an actual king.

[@Ashmodath]

It makes sense lorewise (not counting any end times stuff) since he’s more of a green knight character anyways

[@mereapollo4855]

I remember doing my skarsnik play through and it was always the lord taking forever to take down, love the game and love the content!

[@Uchujen]

CA, i beg you. Give some crumbs to the dwarfs in the next dlc

[@Koeras16]

dwarfs might get the flc for this patch...though i believe this next dlc will be the last for wh2

[@romaosabandar8039]

@@Koeras16 well you guys guessed right xD

[@R3GARnator]

They're getting a huge rework with the last lord pack! And a new FLC lord!

[@zacharyjackson1829]

@@R3GARnator "huge rework" isnt what i would describe it but it is at least a start. Their rune magic definitely helps with their huge disadvantage of not having magic but their roster is still too one-dimensional like the Vampire Counts. That being said im looking forward to their update come july 14th lol

[@ragoth6207]

Typically on legendary difficulty as belagar ironhammer I get a military access with the border princes while taking my first province, build that up, go kill skarsnik, then I go take Karak-8-Peak. Usually get there about mid game and then I'm usually set to take the place rule over the rest of the campaign from there.

[@Phatcaulk69]

Yooo nice I love it. Keep it up.

[@Solace_______]

Good stuff dude!

[@Loj84]

Starting with irondrakes is one of the biggest reasons Grombrindal is best imo. If you use them correctly, you can easily get 400+ kills with them every battle early on. All of your earlygame fights with his army are pretty easy because of them.

[@CommanderTavos99]

Once there is actual lore and story u have to follow, guys like this instantly puts them on the last place ='D

[@knowledgespreader353]

I still do not understand why ungrim’s weapon strength is so god damn low. It should be the same as Grombrindal and Grimgor: 500

[@pappy374]

It's low because it is very high armour piercing and because of the insane Red Ruin buff. Pop Ungrim's buffs and he can shoot up to over 1000WS.

[@Lukashoffmann94]

@@pappy374 And he still does not do enough damage. There are quite a few monsters in his price range, who are more mobile, cheaper and can kill him 1v1.

[@Ebb0Productions]

​@@Lukashoffmann94 Price range doesn't matter in campaign. In single player he gets so much ward save and resistances from items and his damage is well over 1k. Absolute beast.

[@spookyskellyskeleton609]

@@Lukashoffmann94 ungrim for balance is made to be anti large, he would lose against any dedicated infantry lord/hero but he can kill karl Franz on top of deathclaw 1v1

[@Lukashoffmann94]

@@spookyskellyskeleton609 He can still loose a 1v1 against: - Giants - Mammoths - Stegadons - War Sphinxes And Karl Franz only looses a 1v1, if you don't cycle charge, which is the whole point of putting him on Deathclaw. Seriously when was the last time you saw a dwarven LL get enough value to cover his cost?

[@pdc4930]

Yep I totally Agree the Dwarves need a crossbow lord/LL, a Runelord LL, or a Engineer lord/LL to mix up the playstyles.

[@Ebb0Productions]

An Engineer or Crossbow LL sounds awesome. With a Vortex starting location as well.

[@diogovieira5563]

no one needs a missile lord, they always sucks with small exceptions.

[@Ungrim-Ironfist]

Malakai Makaisson make it happen blizzard

[@Loj84]

I really want an engineer lord. Generic or legendary.

[@Loj84]

@@diogovieira5563 idk about crossbow lord, but an engineer lord for the Dwarfs would be great.

[@reganldvonbartersbee6771]

Hopefully the algorithm is kinder too you

[@Landshark4008]

Yo..... grombrindle kinda thicc

[@ColeYote]

I'd say Ungrim's faction +10% speed for all units is useful. Can't disagree on 3rth place, though.

[@akumaking1]

The Dwarfs need more Legendary Lords

[@Andre-fk9ts]

Thorek is coming ma friend

[@victuz]

Not more than Norsca.

[@unowno123]

how did the greenskins become giga-powerful? a waagh adds like 2000 upkeep worth of units to your total army force, so a waagh gives you about 2000 more income, which to be frank makes them extremely powerful.

[@joshua4185]

Why are you not talking about talents you skill into as well as unique weapons etc? They are a huge part of any LL.

[@zacharyjackson1829]

"cough cough" he literally points out how they operate in battle and none of the dwarven unique items change the lord that much in terms of general performance. This is especially the case for the dwarves since they have access to the forge. Hell some of the unique items never come into play like Grommbindal's Axe requiring you to fight Norsca which you will not see until waaaaaaay later in campaign

[@Jackb290]

Yo good video. Important question are you making anymore 2021 updated faction guides?

[@CanadianMeatloaf]

Started a dwarf campaign recently. They are tanks!

[@juvenal8929]

Damneders Dwarf video made = Dwarf FLC confirmed

[@knowledgespreader353]

Amazing content as always, do you expect a dwarf flc lord for the silent and the fury?

[@DaemonPrince]

well this comment did age well :)

[@xjullrich]

Flip the last two there’s only one ancestor power that is somewhat viable after the early game and therefore I’d rather start with thorgrimm

[@Loj84]

Grombrindal is indisputably the best: 1. His ancestor powers, even though they aren't as good lategame, are still overall better than Thorgrim's campaign bonuses (assuming you take advantage of the powerful earlygame ancestor powers). 2. His blue line skills are very powerful, much better than anything Thorgrim does. 3. He is a better fighter than Thorgrim. 4. He has better army effects than Thorgrim. 5. He starts with irondrakes. Irondrakes make almost every earlygame battle easy as hell. 6. All of these things combined mean you can take Black Crag by turn 8 with Grombrindal on any difficulty. If you do that, the rest of the campaign becomes pretty easy. 7. It's easy to get Thorgrim if you start as Grombrindal. It's not easy to get Grombrindal if you start as Thorgrim.

[@kvltofsobek90]

@@Loj84 how does Thorek stack up against them now that he's been added?

[@milansvancara]

Speaking of WH3, Belegar is by far my favorite dwarf campaign:)

[@Asraeks]

Angrund clan start position is probably easier than karaz-a-karak

[@MrNickW123]

Everybody Gangsta until The Great White Dwarf shows up. (Especially full upgrade)

[@tokyojapan6295]

I LOVE dwarves !!

[@chaosrex1487]

Prediction: 4. Belegar. 3. Ungrim. 2. Thorgrim. 1. Grombrindal. After: Yeah..pretty straightforward with the Dwarves. Assuming Greenskins are next and pretty excited. Also really need another Dwarf lord. Assuming with Chaos Dwarf DLC.

[@mattthekiller9129]

Next: all beastmen legendary lords ranked They all suck, the end

[@Phatcaulk69]

Until next patch makes them all meta

[@Crawdithe98]

@@Phatcaulk69 Or doesn't do anything. Or worst case scenario, makes them even worst.

[@zacharyjackson1829]

@@Crawdithe98 lol this comment didnt age well. Malagor being the only lord in the game who's technically small but can actually fly while being a spellcaster is one of the strongest things ever itnroduced into the game. I dont even need to talk about big daddy brass bull

[@mattthekiller9129]

@@Phatcaulk69 apparently you were right lmao

[@Phatcaulk69]

Ahh feels good to be right for once 🙂 obviously campaign will have to be played legendary, however it'll be cool to see the meta in pvp scenarios.

[@goshnodo]

Need to do an updated video

[@alexeyalexandrov7583]

Sorry, I didn't get the rant about Ungrim and Slayers. Just finished a Karak Kadrin Legendary/VH campaign and for the entire campaign I ran a stack of 2 Grudge throwers, 2 Runesmiths and the rest - Slayers/Giant Slayers. It's an amazing stack against greenskins, VC, Norsca, Chaos, they slaughter any large and infantry and don't take much damage because of that "Journey" skill.

[@zacharyjackson1829]

i kinda have to call bullshit about the legendary difficulty claim. Also have to wonder what your unit scale is too. There's not a single melee infantry unit in the game that is considered "amazing" because of legendary modifiers.

[@alexeyalexandrov7583]

​@@zacharyjackson1829 I play on Ultra. Just try yourself, you'll be amazed how well such stack performs. Ungrims's buffs for Slayers are just crazy. P.S. Bladesingers and Sisters of Slaughter are also great on any difficultly when buffed properly.

[@king_zaka4212]

Your right in some ways but i think Thorek ironbrow is bettet because of his Crafting skillz of armor, weapons, runes and so on, thorek Also has a 50+ relationship with all dwarfs when reaserched, and he has his spells and good strategy starter location. This is my choice of a dwarf, regards King_Zaka4

[@creationsofmadness4867]

Feel like this should be redone,belegar has strongest start with turn 7 skaven blight

[@ApoJake13]

10 out of 10 times, I play as a different Dwarf and confed Belegar

[@lustinlis413]

I am still confused are you ranking the Lords or the factions because there is difference...

[@khylerbane4523]

Where’s Thorek Ironbrow?

[@grimmderwald]

"anyone can make anything good in MP if they are good enough" -Colonel Damnders Poor Choice of words

[@ithadtobeaname7327]

I have to disagree with Belegars 4th place. Getting to Karak 8 Peaks and getting is rather easy. with 3-4 settlements you can afford 18-20 units depending on what units you bring. With Lightning Strike you just have to fight 3-4 battles and its yours on like turn ~25 From there on out you can afford a 2nd Army. Wich means Belegar can move on and give the Greenskins some, while the 2nd Army can deal with the Greenskins to the north (if you haven´t dealt with them befor going to 8 Peaks) His Faction might not be outstanding, neither his bonuses, however no Dwarf faction is. His Cp isn´t as hard as it seems to be and after dealing with the start, you actually have a pretty good position to just dominate whoever you want

[@Loj84]

In vanilla, getting Eight Peaks is not easy without cheese (unless you're on low difficulties). Also, by the time you take it, you are usually surrounded on all sides by Wurrzag and Grimgor. This makes it pretty hard to expand early on. Let's say you take Karak Eight Peaks with Belegar at turn 25. You can take the rest of the province and Black Crag early on (only Black Crag, not the other two settlements in the province). That gives you all the money you need to build them up, and defend them. Until you build them up a bit, it's hard to expand past that. You might not get to expand much more until turn 50. Now, compare it to Karaz-a-Karak: With Grombrindal, you can take Black Crag on turn 8 at any difficulty, without losing Karaz-a-Karak/Pillars of Grungni/Mount Squighorn. You should be able to take out the rest of Grimgor's 'Ardboyz within 5 turns or so. With Grimgor out of the way, Wurrzag can't do shit. By turn 40, you'll just be mopping up minor Greenskin factions, and are almost ready to take on the Skaven. This also means you can take out most of Clan Eshin and Clan Mors before they get to lategame and get any good units. Belegar's start is dogshit by comparison. Once you get past the early game, Belegar's campaign is my favorite. But the incredibly slow start compared to Karaz-a-Karak, and the extra vulnerability compared to Ungrim, makes him the worst of the four.

[@ithadtobeaname7327]

@@Loj84 You are right with what you say...i just personnaly think that his strenghts make him #3 Its valid to put him on #4...in my Cps tho his playthrough were much more enjoyable than

[@alexeyalexandrov7583]

The main trick in Belegar's campaign is to disband Hammerers because of their crazy upkeep :) I actually prefer to take Black Crag first, then K8P. Black Crag is super easy to defend against 2 greenskins stacks if you have a garrison building.

[@zacharyjackson1829]

@@Loj84 the fuck kind of world do you live in where you wipe out Ardboy's and the Bloody Handz within 5 turns? every single one of my campaigns has them confederate the other when either gets weak and Grimgor always has the southern badlands and the area near Imrik already conquered and ready to fight like a damn roach to the bitter end.

[@Venus_Nebula]

Where is my dwarf rework not just adding a copy mechanic

[@diogovieira5563]

Dwarf rework why? If we can just have another lizard skink shit.

[@lovrosedej7655]

Belegar over Ungrim, is tanky as fuck, the heroes are a near instawin, and all Ungrim does is buff units noone uses. Even with the upkeep, the dwarves can produce the money to deal with it for long enough to get to Karak 8 peaks

[@voodooozo3755]

Now you'll have to do another vid bcs thorek is on his way.

[@Smarackto]

as someone who does not play this game.... why cant the dude that gets carried just be placed on a machine??

[@Turner7759]

The throne is actually embedded with some of the most powerful runes the dwarfs have, in lore, even cannons, magic, the greatest blows are swept aside while on the throne

[@Smarackto]

@@Turner7759 cant they just put wheels on it? They seem so i inventive. This is hindering their success

[@Turner7759]

@@Smarackto Well he fights atop his throne, calling out grudges from the book, his thronebearers are body guards and also fight while carrying it, only once in the history of the dwarfs has a single dwarf failed in his duty to carry the throne in battle. So its worked out pretty well so far, also he he has stepped off the throne to fight on foot

[@ДаниилТыртышов]

Thorgrim's starting location is incredibly shitty. From the start you are bullied by 2 ork factions from different sides. Tried 4 times but still didn't make it through on legendary

[@zacharyjackson1829]

i typically end up also having to deal with the northern orcs too since Ungrim on my campaigns lately seems to just sit in his throne room and not do shit. Then I start to have Vampire counts breathing down my ass if i confederate Zhufbar

[@filiciaous]

I just take out grimgor, rush him.

[@cadalis2927]

Wow….. last place

[@Findamental174]

Can ya do greenskins next?

[@jumiric]

Comment for the bot

[@kevinelruler]

Bump

[@boedhisenior5361]

I take 8 peaks with one army 6 dwafe warriors a the rest are crossbows easy

[@bacontv9423]

We à ll know malakai is the best

[@pronumeral1446]

This didn't age well :(