Colonial law and the erasure of Palestine w/Noura Erakat | The Chris Hedges Report

In Palestine, the law has been used as a tool of oppression to legitimize and advance the dispossession of the Palestinian people for more than a century. From the theft of Palestinian land by legal mechanisms to the non-recognition of Palestinians as a people with the inalienable right of self-determination, the law is yet another weapon wielded against the Palestinian people by Israel and its patrons. Activist, attorney, and Rutgers University professor Noura Erakat joins The Chris Hedges Report to discuss the use of lawfare against Palestine and her new book, Justice for Some: Law and the Question of Palestine.
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[@noobskater13]

Dear Mr. Hedges and Mrs. Erakat, thank you very much for giving your voice to the Palestinians. Your contributions to the fight against evil will not be forgotten. You both are shining lights in these dark times of history. Lots of respect and love, take care of yourselves and stay safe! Free Palestine! 🇵🇸

[@eyedownload]

I couldn't say it any better. We are all so fortunate and grateful for your work. For your greatest of hearts and minds.

[@hks_uz]

only correction: the guest is an activist, attorney, and Rutgers University professor Noura Erakat - give her credentials as well

[@felixmangual9355]

In agreement with your words1000000 percent.

[@Wanda_Jannette]

1000% in agreement with each word. Both wonderful educators in this catasthrope and history of 🇵🇸. Palestine should be one country, Israel be the capital, and everyone lives free without the oppression, and this racism the Israeli government has brainwashed Jewish people with. About Israeli Zionist Jews must understand, "Waving the star of David does NOT mean you represent The LORD!" All can live freely under one sky. May Allāh open Israeli heart to know Palestinians are their closest brothers and sisters.

[@rezakarampour6286]

' The World's Most Documented Genocide in History . '

[@Fredy-il2si]

NM g0850.

[@xavitheta5190]

Provocative and true statement for a book.

[@albertplumer]

Did Palestine citizens have farms or land deeds ? Or were occupants owners in common ?

[@user-yg8mn9ub4b]

Regarding provocation and true statements for a book. Would you consider writing a book for me? I would not ask for any payment whatsoever. I would pay for publication. I was instructed to find someone to help me do that? The most important aspect will be in support of the Middle East countries. It also would incorporate true infallible attestation to past, present and what will be future reality. @@xavitheta5190

[@g.rogowski2462]

@@albertplumer Palestinians have been constant residents for thousands of years. They are the true semites of the land. Did native americans have farms or land deeds? of course not! They are the natural owners of the land. Palestinians are forced to pay for the holocaust, a very european crime.

[@mariaa6918]

Noura is absolutely amazing. Love, peace and freedom to all Palestinians ❤

[@paulmassey1716]

One of the best interviews on the history and long struggle of the Palestinian people I’ve seen. Thank you. I’m out to buy “Justice For Some”!!

[@constantquestioning4010]

Agreed Exceptional

[@The.Apartheid.Is.Real.]

The Real News network, and Democracy Now, are 2 of the few News networks who are still worthy of their title.

[@insidiousmischka]

MintPress News, The GrayZone…

[@MalcolmMacPhail-mt1gt]

Electronic Intifada, Useful Idiots, Katie Halper, Rania Khalek….

[@noobskater13]

Yes you named some of the great, honest and independent journalists and outlets of our time. Unfortunately they don‘t have nearly enough viewers yet and most people still rely on bogus propaganda when it comes to getting their news. We have lots of work to do!

[@Deprofundis142]

Abby Martin/Empire Files.

[@andrewmilner5900]

Agreed. 'The Real News Network' and 'Democracy Now' have the edge.

[@jcpt8365]

Free Palestine ☮️❤️🇵🇸🇵🇹

[@sTraYa249]

From extremism

[@souelmar]

Thank you Chris Hedge for having Noura . Solidarity with Palestinian 🇵🇸

[@orooropaa1846]

Thank you, Chris Hedges, for having Noura Erakat on your show.Thank you, Noura Erakat, for speaking for those who are suffering

[@GladysAlicea]

When Noura said that the Israelis, (I call them vigilante settlers; she uses settler vigilantes, which love) are now a society that's not just "quasi-okay with an apartheid racist regime...but literally avid supporters of genocide as a right," that hit my gut and heart as the most frightening thing of all. I've watched old settler videos when they were a minority of Israel's Jews. Today, they're fascists, a larger minority that's armed, in politics, in the military. I'm literally sickened by their behavior against the Palestinians and what they do to their own. Different groups of radicals, non to super fanatic religious, who abuse their own, so how can they possibly love anyone else? I studied this before, but since Oct 7th, I haven't missed one day or one scholarly video or doc (including by Muslims) on this horrific genocide. It's affected me deeply, and I know I'm not alone. My deepest thanks & blessings to you both got for this fascinating yet tragic discussion.

[@benqurayza7872]

There are two million Arab citizens of Israel. There are no Jewish citizens of Jordan (which was originally part of Mandate Palestine), Gaza, or the Palestinian Authority. Who has apartheid?

[@Sabreur23]

​@benqurayza7872 Arab "citizens" of Israel have no civil liberties whatsoever: no right to vote, no right to due process, not even a right to freedom of movement (the existence of "sterile roads," for example). Basing these rights exclusively on ethnicity is, by definition, an apartheid system.

[@NuisanceMan]

@@benqurayza7872 I don't quite get your point. Are you saying that the non-presence of Jews in Jordan is apartheid? Jews don't want to live in Jordan, though perhaps a few would if Israel ruled it. Apartheid means the separation of peoples within one nation with one people dominating the other(s).

[@user-jr6we6sl5k]

They mean that they want the whole Middle East for themselves just like Hitler wanted living space for the Germans and attacked Poland, Ukraine ext.

[@pluto5746]

Chris Hedges your name should go in history for standing for humanity

[@MycAnndee]

I Love Noura! She doesn't miss a thing! Thank you so much!

[@juliozubieta7122]

Prof. Erakat, Congrtulations bacause your bravery and clear explanation!

[@KateBates22zabu]

Thank you Chris Hedges & Noura Erakat

[@madeleineswords704]

Outstanding Woman!!!!❤

[@Imadfalistn25]

Thanks Chris Hedges and Noura Erakat for great insight once again,its heartbreaking to see and to understand, sufferings of the Palestinians for 75 years and now genocide unfolding in plain sight of the world,Palestinians deserved their country and freedom and peace.From the river to the sea Palestine will be free soon 🇵🇸

[@uprooy]

My goodness Mrs. Erakat, I admire your unimaginable amount of knowledge. Have to listen to you a lot again. Because I know that the news I am being served stinks. Thank you very much for all the info. It dazzels me.

[@user-dc4wh9xy3g]

Beit Lahia/Northern Gaza (Feb 2024): Depressing how people are scattered and in disarray. Hungry children holding the hand of teenagers who have become fathers and mothers. Terrible and hideous.

[@jayneyaghmour7320]

💔

[@user-dc4wh9xy3g]

@@jayneyaghmour7320 (Sep 21, 2023) Palestinian children sent to prison for throwing rocks at an Israeli tank in the West Bank; (Nov 22, 2023) Palestinian and Israeli officials have published the names of 300 Palestinian women and children held in Israeli prisons.

[@cralterwonkite]

This video needs to go viral, starting with each of us in this audience! An erudite scholar, Noura Erakat, has broken down the very complicated legal history in terms we can follow. Chris, I commend you in giving this brilliant woman a platform.❤Much love & respect!🇵🇸

[@johnwashington9292]

If anyone wonders what type of national Israeli mind can manifest such cruelty, I suggest they read “Goliath: Life and Loathing in Greater Israel” by Max Blumenthal.

[@DrumguyCiv]

I just got finished reading Goliath and The 51 Day War. Both great books by Max Blumenthal. I had been aware of the plight of the Palestinian people for the last 15 years or so, but these two books drove it all home for me. The Israeli propaganda machine does not work on me any longer. His work is a real eye opener for anyone who has doubts as to who is on the right side of history.

[@MariaNI-yf1bz]

Max is an amazing journalist.

[@ingehanson]

@@DrumguyCiv I have seen the cruel Zionist movement back in the Sixties. Only then without internet the majority were not aware what was going on, depending only on the 3 half hour news stations.

[@Who.is.kidding.who.]

Max definitely deserves his name in the history books as a champion in the fight for Palestinian rights! ❤️🫡🫡🫡

[@Edward-in6ew]

Goliath was a nephalim giant. The offspring of fallen angels who mated with human woman,something that God forbid them to do. They are the enemy of God the creator. Goliath was evil.

[@xavitheta5190]

Freedom to Palestine.

[@user-tr7sp9hc7k]

Freedom of justice

[@CowHorace]

Free Palestine from Hamas

[@husnijapasalic936]

​@@CowHoraceFree Palestine from Zionists!

[@rolandraggio1798]

Noura Erakat os amazong!. So beautiful, so brilliant. What a treasure.

[@angelstarlight5038]

Thank you for having Noura on, she is able to relate the past into the present as few others are able. She gives us much needed clarity.

[@katiekane5247]

My hope is that people have become curious about how this situation came to being as contentious and vicious as it is. Once the history is thoroughly understood, it's clear who belongs there, the Palestinians!

[@user-cu2zn9dr5i]

Free the world from these colonists

[@MehmetUzman]

Mr. Hedges and Mrs. Erakat, thank you very much for this insightful conversation, The Chris Hedges Report is one of the few News networks lets us learn the matters insightly.

[@johnwashington9292]

I have just downloaded "Justice for Some". Thanks.

[@sallysmith6226]

Thank you for your commentary/scholarship on this human problem!

[@jimrichy1]

Thank you Noura for sharing this vital knowledge and your passion.

[@manapbakar2017]

Yes.. that last sentence sums it all. " Palestinians deserve life." And.. in no uncertain terms that means nothing less than that the palestinians deserve to have their country back. Intact.. From the river to the sea. Period.

[@Edward-in6ew]

Receiving land is not the same as "living". You can "live" anywhere. Stop twisting the truth.

[@Marius_vanderLubbe]

Excellent interview, Chris. Thank you for bringing Noura to us.

[@philesdaile8111]

A great interview thank you

[@larrycoffield3039]

Thank you Chris for bringing us Noura.

[@perizath]

Highly informative, thank you Noura Erakat 🙏🏼

[@pascalandlanzaroneextrarev3043]

Thank you Noura & Chris

[@ferdousjan1]

Thank you for the history lesson. Love you forever.

[@DrumguyCiv]

Thank you for a very informative conversation with a knowledgeable guest. If only this could become common knowledge, there could have been real dialogue between the two parties and a real road to lasting peace in the region, for all.

[@hebrahim1674]

Pl add Shahid Bolsin

[@r.w.bottorff7735]

This was a great discussion, one of the most informative that I've seen, thank you.

[@Artsy1621]

Brilliant discussion. I’ve just been reading Scott Anderson’s Lawrence in Arabia where I learned about The Balfour Declaration and the Sykes-Picot Agreement for the first time. Not exactly a standard part of U.S. educational curricula.

[@happygucci5094]

Throughout this talk - Lawrence of Arabia came to mind- thanks for this comment!

[@den264]

No you wont find much if enything about Zionism and the Nakba in American libraries. But you will find hundreds of thousands of books, papers, magazines, videos, movies, museums on the Holocaust.

[@roxannamarinak3156]

Thank you Chris Hedge and Noura Erakat on educating us on the history of Palestine and Zionism that public so needs to know. Blessings to both of you

[@smargoob]

Hats off Chris and Noura! Great deliberation showing great depth.

[@tooshay7396]

excellent guest. . can´t wait to read your book.

[@sosma06]

Really, really surgical dissection of such an important matter. Thank you both.

[@gunnarwaage4343]

Amasing, thank you Chris for all your dedication.

[@patricialongo5870]

Many families do not want anything to do with these people who say we were erased. My people in America always made me afraid of asking questions about how our old country got erased.

[@Brigidz]

Why? Because it's too painfull?

[@sammyo2583]

Your people in America, are you referring to the Jewish people?. Look up the history of what happened in Judaea in 70ad. . When the Romans destroyed Jerusalem If you ever go to Rome there’s the Arch of Titus, that commemorates that war. And depicts the riches that were plundered,including the menorah that was taken from the Temple in Jerusalem. In 132ad. After an uprising the Romans killed thousands of jews, took hundreds to Rome as slaves and a lot were scattered in surrounding countries. Rome than changed the name Judaea, to Palestina Capitolina Josephus the Jewish historian,would be a good source for you to read. God always said that the time would come for the jews to go back to their home land. I know it’s not a popular thing to say. I don’t think that God had this way in mind though Isaiah 66:8 shall a nation be born in one day?For as soon as Zion was in labour,She gave birth to her children Zion = high places, another name for Jerusalem, city of God. But there was always a remnant left in Judaea, during the Ottoman occupation, jews,Christians,and Muslims lived in peace. Until evil reared it’s ugly face

[@YourMajesty143]

​@@Brigidz- I don't know about her family, but some of the families I grew up with, Yes. Not only was it painfully traumatic to speak about and to confront, but it was difficult to contextualize everything that happened, why it happened, and all the different nuanced politics of what played into everything. The only acceptable way to speak about our past was to say "yes it happened, but we were not erased. We're still fighting and we will all return to the homeland". They didn't want to educate us too deeply about the history, bc they didn't want to impart on us a sense of loss, they didn't want to accept that framing at all. They simply wanted the language, with which we coped as a diaspora, to be one of hope.

[@happygucci5094]

Brilliant- please have Dr Gerald Horne back on soon- I would have loved to hear his takes through this history- as a lawyer and historian and supporter of decolonization anti racism… ✊🏽🇵🇸🍉🙏🏽💗‼️

[@dbapeman0698]

thx for sharing this information from such a credible source. great job on this primer.

[@jayakleh2376]

You are the greatest woman in Palastinians population, God plus you

[@bajithasm969]

Great work Dr. Erakat

[@pacoshuman7642]

Thank you both...it is so umportant to hear a voice like Noura's...so important.

[@GLN14659]

Incredibly helpful history. Bigger picture.

[@cowsandpigsmaketheearthwar1471]

Noura is one of the best and truest speakers I’ve ever heard and I’m a big fan of Chris Hedges

[@lulusp1023]

Excellent interview....thanks

[@daviddipasquale5479]

Thank You

[@ranakhatibthomas4031]

I have to listen to this more than once to parse out the details...

[@therenegade5176]

Time and again the Muslims entered into peace and agreement with non-Muslims in good faith but ended up getting sucker punched because of the inherent doctrine of showing mercy in the face of enemy surrender and proportionality of retaliation. In other words, holding on to its humanity has caused the Muslim world deep sorrows and devastation.

[@menudobucket9837]

A two tiered system of governance, also known as apartheid is, and has been the experience of the untouchables in East Indian society’s caste system for three thousand years. This isn’t new. It’s just a new look at an old model of governance. The book ‘Caste: The origins of our discontent’ looks at the similarities between that system, the centuries of American slavery and the German holocaust; all of which were two tiered systems that considered those in the lower tier to be less than human. These are the days when the threads that connect the tapestry of history are being pulled together for us all to see what connects it and why it seems that history keeps going through periods of violence that people of good faith keep trying to avoid, and their efforts keep being taken advantage of by people of bad faith.

[@den264]

Religious Zionism is indeed a bad faith !

[@CSCoolidge]

My understanding is that the British Emergency Regulations originated in the crown's response to rebellion in Ireland, and were then disseminated through all colonial "possessions".

[@theLORDGod_G450]

Thank you both

[@27boof]

Thank you so much for this incredible interview/conversation. I learned a great deal & will have to watch it again to fully absorb all the points and information that were discussed. Thank you to both of you, Chris & Noura!

[@dominationstatepodcast]

Brilliant, thank you.

[@dottester3039]

Thank you both, superb effort. This indeed joined up the aspect called legal layer that for times today hold up to the rights of Zionism. Quite depressing. Im holding onto prior to Palmerston 1840, Turkeys land registry, and current demands of billions of global populace to assign a declaration to UN rescinding resolutions no longer fitting for human consumption. In terms of war, israel is finished and the world will be glad. The idea of persons exceptionalism in this regard is absurd. The political arm of Palestinian Hamas, must reengineer a Statement of State of Israel. Those countries complicit to its detriment dont get to use veto rights which are also abhorrent.

[@sanp6092]

Excellent knowledge base 👏🏿 ❤

[@Brigidz]

Noura Erakat's astuteness and intelligence is simply thrilling. I feel an ignorant fool just listening to her. She also articulates the tragedy of the zionist genocide on Gaza that evokes such empathy as to make one weep.

[@Vbluevital]

Excellent, Thank You

[@weedushivambu1934]

Amazing and brilliant person

[@michelegosse7116]

yes, she is right about the PLO. Could say that the very confusing way it infolded from before WWII and the displacement of so many traumatised groups near by was not facilitating a united 'governemental' body/spirit instead of a political party. Hamas, a different generation understod that later. But then No vision, no will, no representation, the PLO-shadow kept to its image, quislings. There had been an article of Diplo, which considered the PLO thrown out of countries one after the other bc it "interfered" with the host's politics, aid but no help?, demands or influence?

[@sonyjoseph5426]

Excellent account .. thanks for clarifying the tiered layer of arab israelí citizen vs Jewish Israeli citizenship .. I'm tired of hearing how isreali Arabs have it so good in Israel in the enviable isreali so called democracy

[@mbegum3249]

A honest factual countdown to what took place and IS taking place in Palestine 🇵🇸 My hope that people who are neutral or may not know the history of Palestine may understand the struggle of the Palestinians. Palestine 🇵🇸 Will be Free

[@jbon123]

Your guest Ms. Erekat is so very knowledgeable and her nuanced exposition of the facts, circumstances and geopolitical developments that lead to today's reality reveal her utter brilliance as a learned and erudite scholar. I understand the issues as never before. Thank you.

[@thecurlymuscateer]

Noura is an absolutely wonderful, articulate voice for the Palestinian cause well done!

[@shayanrahat]

زنده باد فلسطین!

[@jofinn21]

Free Palestine ❤🇵🇸

[@user-un3gm5oc8o]

🇵🇸✌️❤️

[@roseannemain9957]

Really interesting the British put in 200,000 British Troops. We have nowhere near that number of military personel in the army now in Britain.

[@flow963]

Brilliant and timely. Thanks to guest, CH & RN

[@sandygalbraith9491]

What an enlightening hour! Ms Erakat is a brilliant advocate for the Palestinian cause.

[@user-po9iv1iu3f]

Thanks to Mr Cris Hedgh, bring Law full knowledge about palestine, ❤

[@anastar37]

Brilliant. Noura Erakat has studied this subject in such depth, it is like attending an advanced level university class on Palestine - Israel's history.

[@direpants4667]

Its a very good question: do the Palestinians have the right to engage in armed conflict against Israel? Of course they do, Israel seeks to eliminate the Palestinians, therefore they have every right to fight and resist that with everything they've got, to fight for their right to exist

[@Edward-in6ew]

Then the one you are engaging armed conflict against certainly has the right to defend their family's against you. It can't be one sided.

[@finosbaglamas7586]

Thank you, Noura Erakat❤

[@kayotecute]

Thank you again and again and again Chris and Norah🇵🇸

[@johnlund2036]

Up until October 8, I was a supporter of Israel, I thought October 7 was terrible. However, after learning many of the deaths of Israelis on October 7 were caused by Israelis and seeing Israel’s response in Gaza and learning the history of Britain’s decision to essentially colonize Palestine with Israelis, my position is now in support of the Palestinians who are the legitimate indigenous people of Palestine. What is being done by the West in support of Israel’s apparent genocide is despicable. Many thanks for this video and many others who have provided the truth.

[@hugobnyc]

I have been blown away by Noura Erakat’s deep knowledge and yearning for peace and independence for the Palestian people.. Thank You Chris Hedges

[@Aktentasche1]

I had not heard of Noura Erakat before, but I am very grateful to the team at the real news for bringing her to my attention (and more generally consistently having great guests as well as having an awesome host in Chris). Amazing interview and keep up the fight!

[@roncarlin3209]

22:00 1952 bifurcation of Nationality and Citizenship still bamboozles everyone... The 20% Arab population do not have full rights. They are Israeli Citizens (ezrahut), but unfortunately they do not have Jewish Nationality.(leum yehudi), which means there are more than 30 laws which discriminate against them, including "the right of return", and access to land and amenities.

[@Pashanny824]

Excellent interview Chris.😊 Free Palestine!

[@solochica81]

I like everything Noura says! God bless her and may her words reach far and wide.

[@SdH76zhEU]

That woman should confront some knowen zionists in a discussion. pretty sure they wouldn't wanna face her!

[@nessunodorme3888]

Wow, that was epic!

[@user-fd6nj9rh2u]

Good job, Noura ! You're brilliant.

[@ayohilary7744]

Wow! This is best analysis of the legal framework of how Israel was established that I've come across 👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

[@sofarsogut]

👍thank you

[@NZperrito]

Very Powerful conversation

[@garenmelikian]

Great interview; insight and review of the Palestinian struggle for sovereignty and independence. As someone of Armenian background, I understand and appreciate the hurdles and pitfalls (traps even) that the Palestinian people and their leadership (genuine ones as well as those who clearly have betrayed the cause) have faced throughout their history but, more specifically, since 1948. The parallel between these two people and their struggle is very clear and vivid; the backdrop of the Ottoman Empire breaking up, mandates assumed by various colonial powers and the ensuing future of the architecture of the region--promises made, promises broken. It is noteworthy to mention that in September of 2023, under the pretext of fighting against"terrorism," Azerbaijan launched an all-out attack against the civilian population of Nagorno-Karabagh following 9 months of total blockade of the enclave, and by the months end the entire ethnic Armenian population fled the region that was home to them for milleniums--call it ethnic cleansing, or call it genocide. Fastforward to October 7th, in the aftermath of Hamas' attack, an entire civilian population, have been subjected to total subjugation that had been implemented for the past 17 years, only now with clear license to kill 27,000+, mame 65,000+ and displace 2,200,000+ people! Obviously, the sheer number of Palestinians of Gaza will affect the outcome, but to what extent it is unclear.

[@kathreenpoulos3341]

Without the consensus of the people the particular law being lawding over is null and void without standing. Consent of the people is required absolutley.

[@raziablanchard2711]

Thanks to both of you'll for all this information

[@comfortsmma]

Excellent interview 😃... She is outstanding 😀

[@cowsandpigsmaketheearthwar1471]

PHILOSOPHY LOVE IS THE SOURCE -PaulTeich-©️10/31/2023 This poem is about talking to God about love Love is the source of all things You are the source of all things We can feel your love Can you feel ours? We can see examples of your power Can you see ours? Are ours destruction or planting flowers? How do you view us from your ivory tower? What keeps evil at Bay? Is it a spell and Apple and leaf of bay? Is it an old-fashioned ruler who thinks she is A Bey? Or is it the simple acts of simple people taking care of each other day by day? You have given us love to turn Earth into Eden You let us know we were without true gnosis with the Apple Adam had eaten Letting us know we get intrinsic worth from giving a rib and not from beating Please take away indifference, give us peace and make us care if everyone is eating Love is the source Whether it comes from you or me, love takes us to heaven on a winged horse May peace, love and poetry, save the world!!!

[@rachidaroberts3424]

Absolutely dizzying interview, Mrs Erakat and Mr. Hedges. Endless respect and love. Please keep the fight for the Palestinians. Take care of yourself. Thank you.

[@constantquestioning4010]

Exceptionally informative exchange from a major academic, highly informative on the colonial settler project. Remarkable factual scholarship from a fearless historian. A revelation. Thank you. Paris 🙏🏼🕯🕯🙏🏼

[@alexandraribeiro5562]

Gorgeous. ❤