Colorism and Light-Skinned Privilege | 4 Minute Feminism

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[@iconoclastic-fantastic]

My friend (she is Mexican) was telling me about how she's heard her mother's friends say things like "You're so lucky your kids aren't dark!" and "Oh thank goodness you have light-skinned kids!". That's so messed up.

[@peaceharmony4115]

+Avery Simmons Yeah, it blows the mind that this is still a reality.

[@yannietrencha]

I never experienced this until I went to China for the first time to visit family and everyone there (sales people, cashiers, receptionists, etc.) kept saying stuff to me like, "oh you're pretty, it's just too bad your skin is really dark" and multiple people tried selling me skin whitening products... also i've recently started listening to korean music and all the singers are super pale or have their faces caked with makeup 20 shades too light for them, and whenever they're asked to describe their 'ideal type' for a partner they for some reason always must include "pale skin" as a requirement.

[@DefineMorena]

Not all of them include pale skin, though.

[@tegamingother]

well i experienced this in america honestly but most of my experiences were from chinese lookin kids or adults who just stare and sometimes scoff like their the superior ones. i mean i still remember the sand being thrown in my eye from these asian kids light skinned kids. threw me out of the playset at some park when i was like 5 years old. none of the white kids did that to me, i think. anyways to me it was always some ethnic looking dude.

[@walterrising4276]

Stfu and get a MALE role model

[@LisaHowe23]

I'm so surprised India wasn't mentioned in this video, when all throughout Bollywood and Indian television we're only ever shown light-skinned actresses, unless they are being cast as the "bitchy villian". Also, the amount of advertisements for "fairness cream" is ridiculous! So upsetting to see my young nieces take that sort of bullshit in. I am in now way criticizing your video (they're always great!), I was just very surprised - my friends won't even sit in the sun with me for fear of getting any darker :o

[@sarithajagajith6568]

There are medium skinned actresses and dark skinned actresses too.🙄 Do you know anything about Mollywood and tamil film industry?

[@walterrising4276]

Not gonna read, take your Marxist dribble elsewhere

[@Phlebas]

The fact that skin bleaching is a thing just goes to show how messed up society can be. The comments by Lupita Nyong'o seem dead on. I think this kind of demonstrates why media representation is so important, not just with regard to skin colour, but regarding any under-represented group.

[@fusion772]

oh well, some people just find one skin tone more appealing than another. I am sure many people claim that darker skin is better; Tupac once said "The darker the flesh, the deeper the roots" whatever the hell that means. It's really just not a big deal just a personal preference thing

[@Phlebas]

I'm curious, did you watch the above video in full before responding to my comment? Your reply is a non sequitur. This isn't specifically about people's individual preferences in partners, but about more systematic problems facing people with darker skin.

[@sherisetodd740]

To are certain extent that is true but lighter skinned has been upheld as better in the media. I mean tanning is also held up as ideal but it is like a standard of being a little tan but still light.

[@judyandthecat]

how about "the fast and the feminist"? (but to be fair I don't know anything about the movies)

[@alliblackman5020]

I like that !

[@yanariley1501]

that's incredibly witty

[@diilavery4825]

They're knucklehead films. They're entertaining though. :D

[@shenisejones594]

Dude yes so creative I love it

[@alliblackman5020]

+Black Star Nah

[@heavyhandedvlogs]

Yes, this is fantastic. A series like this would be amazing. yes yes y e s to 4 minute feminism.

[@bryanmontalvo3669]

Can't wait for it to start!

[@motombocolombo]

CAN'T WAIT! (_ )_ )::::::::::::::::::::::::D~~~~~

[@walterrising4276]

Someone doesn't get laid

[@thegoodlydragon7452]

How does the phenomena of tanning and how some people say things like "Ew, you're so white" or "You need a tan" fit into your scheme? This is a strange thing to happen so often in a society where supposedly lighter skin tones mean people look on you with more favor. Do you think most people who say the word pasty mean it as a compliment or insult?

[@jiminslips3358]

Yes that's still colorism but I'm sure youll only ever get those comments in America. That's because the beauty standards have shifted and now people idolize having darker skin but not "too" dark. But this video only talked about colorism that's all over the world and that is built in to our societies. The colorism that affects people's lives. Im not saying being told an insult about you being white doesn't affect you or your life but your feelings getting hurt is totally different from losing a job or all of the examples of discrimination this video has listed. Both are colorism but both are very different because one has worse outcomes. And this is coming from a very white looking Mexican-American, so I have seen it first hand on both sides. (One side being the fact that I am privileged and the other from being observant of people I see as the same as me being treated very differently from me for no other reason besides skin color.)

[@norabright6285]

You shouldn't say Latinos when referring to all Latin Americans because it only means male-identifying Latin Americans (Latina meaning female-identifying Latin Americans). Say Latinxs, or Latins.

[@lavitorroja2632]

As a light skin Chilean, I've heard things such as "I wish I was as light as you" or "I'm so dark compared to you" with a sad/angry tone. Many of these were jokes but many times it was serious and it saddens me that people don't like being dark when literally half of the population is on the darker side of the color skin spectrum.

[@walterrising4276]

Then appreciate your look, dingus

[@stevie]

Love the name and also the audio quality is 100/100

[@marinashutup]

+Stevie Thanks lady! :)

[@hamchen4786]

+marinashutup Why do your face looks a little bit yellower this episode? Usually your face is a lot whiter. Is it because new camera equipment or just make up?

[@marinashutup]

Ham Chen It's the lighting. That's closer to my natural skin color--my lights tend to wash my face out.

[@adamsandler3098]

Benji agreed

[@Raptor44256]

This is not an American thing or stemming just from slavery in the west most countries are like this. Brazil, most of Asia, prefer lighter skin to darker skin. Philipino and Thai, have much darker skin than Japanese Korean or Chinese and are treated as worker class in any other country. In Iraq Kuwait and UAE; Syrian Somalian Indian and African's are treated in the same way. Most of the individuals coming into those countries have little money or resources or education. The paper bag test started in the southern states, specifically in Lousiana and where part of the balls for determining pairings. The correlation between skin color and criminal acts weren't comparing comparable crimes either simply skin tone and sentences.

[@marinashutup]

+Roger Leonard Yup. I specifically mentioned how colorism originated from Asian countries.

[@ireallyreallyhategoogle]

+marinashutup Regarding that, wasn't pale skin also a sign of the upper "not working outdoor labor" class?

[@amelmharzi8333]

+Roger Leonard Yes, that's what she fucking said (concerning Asian people). I feel like you are basically saying : Racism is not an American thing it's done everywhere so whe shouldn't feel bad about what happens here.

[@amelmharzi8333]

+Amel we my bad

[@Raptor44256]

Amel M'harzi since you didn't get through the rest of my comment I'm not even going to craft a well thought out response.

[@azyuhki]

I also have question. I'm a very pale Asian, and I benefit from colorism. I want to help darker skinned people in general to appreciate their own skin tones, and not ruin their skin with harmful products. But I have had responses like "It's not a problem to you because you're already so pale". Is there any way that I can convince them that light skin is not a requirement to be beautiful? For context, the obsession with pale white skin here (Vietnam) is real. Whitening products are sold everywhere, people would do anything to whiten their skin, that includes poisonous, skin-irritating products, spas openly advertise skin-bleaching procedures. People are ashamed to describe their skin tones as anything other than "light, pale, white", while some proudly brag about "my skin is so white, I always just buy the lightest shade of whatever". You'd be hard pressed to find any dark skinned people in the media, even if there are, they usually use so much paler foundations to cover up their skins. Colorism affects pretty much every imaginable aspect of our lives, people are being scammed and hurt, it sucks.

[@j.e.9737]

I know what you mean. I am a light-skinned Black. However, I don't think my situation is as bad as yours. I think the best thing to do is ensure that your kids (if you have any/plan to have any) don't become obsessed with "light, pale skin." Teach them that no matter the color, people around the world are beautiful beings...I think that's a good start.

[@angelbabyconjure]

Speaking as a darker (Very Dark) skin woman we darker skin people have trust issues. For instance, I rarely discuss colorism with anyone because; most of the time just simply sharing my opinoin is seen as an eraser of an average light skin persons struggle with colorism. Some light skin people are just now checking their privilege so conversations like this are much more difficultto have in person amongst peers. I believe society being ran by men who push the unspoken rule of patriarchy which is to "seek male validation" is the culprit. It can really be tough for darker skin people to take advice from someone who benefits from light skin privilege. I for instance love when lighter skin people recognize their privileges. Although, in the back of my mind I wonder if those same people who benefit from light skin privilege are consistent with checking their peers in private. It's a continuous work to dismantle colorist and colorism. So in order to be "convincing" just be yourself and tell people around you when you spot a colorist "check that crap at the gate".

[@nic0887]

REAL TALK! I'm indian and have struggled with accepting my dark skin for years. In India the Eurocentric beauty standards are so high and it is so rare to see a dark skin female in Bollywood, they either all have light skin, or are in movies and photos were they turn up the lighting to make them look white. It is such bullshit and I wish we could all just throw away the concept that light skin equates to beauty :(

[@walterrising4276]

Streetshitter

[@thamytalks]

I really like this new format! I can't wait to work your videos into my classes. A couple of weeks ago I had to do a presentation on Jeff Lesser's book about Japanese Brazilians and I mentioned you in class but I couldn't show the video where you talk about that because we didn't have a projector in the room and I think in the video you mentioned in in passing but I cited it and told people to look it up after class. I love using videos as resources!

[@thamytalks]

given that i was referring to her identity yes a youtube video wherein she discusses her identity does qualify as a source. and given that i was giving a presentation about identity in the diaspora and she discusses that explicitly in her video then yes it does qualify as a source. this presentation by the way was for a seminar in my history phd program - you wanna talk about sources? i do this shit in my sleep.

[@GeoNeilUK]

To be honest, this sort of colourism was also applied to white people centuries ago, darker skinned people were also associated with being working class and lighter skinned people were arisotcrats (it's where we get the term "blue blood" in that the lilywhite skin colour of the ruling lass who stayed indoors and never worked the fields was also so thin that the blue colour of the veins would show through)

[@personanon9772]

IN THE PAST

[@Revenge464]

She used an example from the past, yet you listened to her, didn't you?

[@GeoNeilUK]

Revenge464 Because we can never learn anything from history, can we?

[@GeoNeilUK]

***** in 1995, I went out in the blazing summer sun, it was so hot that even in Northumberland I got sunburnt, to the point that my neck, face and forearms were bright old fashioned telephone box red, when the sunburn subsided, my forearms ended up brown and freckled, darker than the rest of my body... It's 2016, those forearms are still brown and freckled and I have ginger genes, in fact, I have a ginger beard.

[@GeoNeilUK]

***** "it was discrimination of the poor and how being tanned was symbolism for that" ...which was my point.

[@yuribrown5714]

Thank you for making videos like this one as a platform for topics/conversation that many are uncomfortable with. Your awesome and I love the title!

[@walterrising4276]

Learn to spell and this is nothing worth paying attention to

[@Sayeth0Di0Puppeth]

Your videos always challenge us to think critically about issues. You bring up problems but in a way that always seems rational and can call out these behaviors without making it about blame or hatred. I feel like I learn so much from your videos and I really admire your work!

[@turtleboy1188]

They don't challenge anything, everyone already knows and believes this

[@turtleboy1188]

Nevermind this is from 2015, this was new

[@MongoMeChongo]

This is why Tanning Salons make me feel sick and twisted inside.

[@rrteppo]

? It's not the cancer?

[@bryanmontalvo3669]

4 Minute Feminism is a great name, Marina! And I didn't even know about the word/term "colorism". Thanks for sharing/educating.

[@Randomstuffs261]

I bet you blurred the background purposefully, just to stop ME from seeing the lamp.

[@EllePlowPlow]

????

[@yara-gm1yw]

Elle Plow Plow bn

[@11tw48]

My point on colorism would be that the problems that are associated being black (e.g. people not giving you enough pain relief, people paying you less, the law punishing you more) being worse for darker skinned black people compared to lighter skinned black people demonstrates that racism isn't about ideology; racism is: a) a gut reaction that people need to learn to control b) a series of stereotypes that people need to unlearn and critique. This runs contrary to the idea that day-to-day ordinary racism (the kind that determines your paycheck, and how much medication you are prescribed) being a conscious choice, at least in my opinion. Note that I am not trying to exonerate racists! There are plenty of people who *choose* racists actions (e.g. the KKK) but ordinary people often aren't aware of the racism behind their actions.

[@leemaoz6255]

I have a friend who is Asian and she isn't dark but she has a friend who she claims is dark but there the same color she said "I don't want to be dark like him"

[@sim4076]

I'm indian and this is a problem so widespread in our country. Unfortunately nobody wants to talk bout it. My colour is what most Indians would call kinfda light skinned but I grew up in a family of very fair women. I was shamed for my colour by my aunts at school and even my own mother n the sad part is they all thought its okay to do dat

[@k.b.9464]

this was very educational, thanks for making this marina! :)

[@walterrising4276]

Feminism is never educational

[@whym6438]

The paper bag test was also used as part of determining what someone's race was in apartheid South Africa, fyi.

[@mrbqkc]

I love this! And that's an awesome title 😊

[@AhsanteB]

Brilliant! And I like the "4 minute feminism" title

[@ryanlopez1153]

Yes it's a great title, it sums up the brain-melting garbage perfectly.

[@kyrstynkumor6433]

I love your videos so much

[@azyuhki]

I think Marina meant something similar to what I've also been thinking about a lot: colorism in the Western world stemmed from racism, whereas colorism in Asia stemmed primarily from classism. in Asian's case, it has a rich history that goes back thousands of years that proves itself to be, well, suuuper classist, and it has been like that long before we come in contact with the West. The light skin shades that Asians like are also different from the West (there are countless texts from pre-colonial time that describe white people's white skin as ugly, pasty, their facial features absurd and unappealing). Also, in contrast, the relationship between darker skinned, lower class people with light skinned, higher class people usually doesn't change the way society view their child. The child, however they look, is usually born out of wedlock (since people from different classes rarely get married), and illegitimate children are always frowned upon. The child also doesn't gain any privilege because of their lower class parent, unless their richer parent legitimise them. So, while both Asians and Western people favour lighter skin, the cause is different, and so are the ways in which their colorisms manifest.

[@azyuhki]

+azyuhki In modern time, after the Western expansion, under hundreds of years of being colonised, having Western beauty standards pushed down our throats (not just the light skin, they include various other features as well), and our natural features ridiculed and put down by white people have radically changed the way Asians in Asia's view of what is "beautiful". And yes they also happened to have burnt lots of books, destroyed lots of stuffs, thus severely damaged the bonds of many Asian countries with their own heritage. And that's how I think people tend to mistake that Asian colorism was a result of Western influences, and for Asians to shirk their involvement in another system of oppression (classism).

[@ryan_edmond]

its been at least two hundred thousand years since the last upload on this channel i swear

[@Highonfruit1aprivilegedvegan]

great video :)

[@peaceharmony4115]

Excellent decision to make these Marina. I find that often people lose their shit at feminism as a whole, sometimes because the concepts/terms used in sociology and/or feminism are misunderstood by the broader public.

[@SIlverxSlinky]

This video made me realize how important it is to consider facts rather than relying on our own experiences. I recognize that that light skinned privilege is a historical fact, and continues to be an issue today. However, that is so out of line with my personal experiences that it was difficult for me to reconcile. I was mercilessly teased and bullied for my very very pale skin growing up and still continue to get comments on how unattractive and undesirable it is. I needed to reconcile the fact that it is possible for me to suffered negative consequences of current standards of beauty and for other individuals to be persecuted for having skin that is "to dark". Both are pretty crap, though I recognize the victimization of darker skinned people has been longer running, more pervasive, and often has more serious consequences.

[@turtleboy1188]

Your suffering is not important ☺️

[@SIlverxSlinky]

@@turtleboy1188 on the contrary, my suffering, and the suffering of yourself and others is, in fact, the primary thing of importance. But that's just like, my opinion.

[@kid-ava]

@@turtleboy1188 well that's a pretty fucking terrible thing to say. the person already recognized that their personal experiences still doesn't take away from the pain that colorism causes to darker skinned people, so there was no reason for you to be hostile

[@ria75002]

I love this. Do more plsss

[@andiehernandez1995]

Great explanation of colorism!

[@AzureRaven]

I can relate to the latino thing. I am lighter skinned than my siblings and my mom, so I totally notice how I am treated better in general by other people and that people trust me easier. Like, I remember once how my mom was in a store I go to everyday and they checked her purse to see if she was stealing anything, while they never made problems for me at all.

[@ryanlopez1153]

So because that happened to your mom once there is a general "privilege" that light-skinned people have that darker people don't? I'm a dark Hispanic and I've been treated well throughout my life. If you live in the United States, consider yourself one of the luckiest people who has ever lived. If you want to see what real hate and discrimination is like, take a trip to the slums of the 3rd world.

[@nikiigreen]

Could you do a 4 Minute Feminism video regarding the term "false equivalence"? I find myself stumbling over explaining that one whenever I get into discussions of feminism.

[@nandafprado]

skin whitening creams? how do those work for the entire skin? Do they bleach superficial cells because that would loose its effect on every new cell formed. I use some skin whitening creams but to get rid of marks and I dont believe they work for the entire skin because all they do is kill the dead darker cells and substitute with new ones that are my shin colour.

[@LisaThinksALot]

+nandafprado I think the higher quality products and whatnot that you might find in a night cream do tend to just even out your melanin levels, but I know there are basically forms of facial bleach that you can toss all over everywhere.

[@LisaThinksALot]

Liking 10 seconds in based purely on the description.

[@brendatan3354]

this is awesomeee!! (: lol this is probs unrelated, but what about spray tans? Is there a relationship between it and colourism?

[@purpleturtletmnt99]

+Brenda Tan I feel like this is a really complicated issue and I'm not sure that I'm the person to explain it, but I feel like to get a spray tan, it's highly likely (almost certain) that you're either white, white-passing, or very light-skinned. Thus, you have the privilege of darkening your skin temporarily to fit a beauty ideal that has been glamorized by western media. On top of that, you may be praised for your "sun-kissed" look that other people of a similar shade would be looked down upon for. Additionally, having a spray tan doesn't suddenly mean you face all the discrimination darker skinned poc face because you're simply not a darker skinned person. Sorry if all this seemed unrelated and tangential, I just thought your question was really interesting and wanted to share my thoughts.

[@brendatan3354]

+purpleturtletmnt99 yeaa i totally understand what you mean (: it's a very complicated issue, and sometimes i'm unsure as to whether i'm being to unreasonable or "reading into it too much". Since, lots white people want a 'tan', and lots of poc want lighter skin- i think the different ideal beauty standards significantly contribute to whether people want to be lighter or "more tanned". For instance, in the western world like you said, you are praised to have "sun-kissed skin", where as generally in Asia, pure, white, glowing skin, is the ideal perfect skin tone. But yea, it's kinda confusing, but thankss for sharing yourrr thouGHTS ((:

[@theslavepsychology]

Okay for an introduction for kids who don't know what colorism but not deep or any new material or a new take on colorism.

[@LegoDaleks]

Good idea! How about also making a video that defines all the principal terms in Feminism in one video using definitions as succinctly as possible?

[@walterrising4276]

Feminism: Noun Bullshit

[@victorvanvolt8425]

Question : What is the solution of this problem? (What do you think may be the solution)

[@pangalacticgargleblaster2610]

in the uk its completely different, darker skin is seen as a higher beauty standard, pale is unhealthy, pastey, associated with stereotypical ginger, drug addicts and nerds. Its easier to see skin blemishes as well, making you less attractive. When me and my sister were young we were often referred to as gross and disgusting due to being overly pale. in the UK it's excepted that you need to get a tan, going to sunbeds and fake tan etc. its hugely hugely popular. The message i got from my parents were that it is indeed unhealthy to be pale and "i need to get some sun on me". If you want to be attractive in the uk you need a tan. I assumed US was similar, learn something new everyday.

[@heheh92]

That's only true for white British people, its desirable for them to have an "orange" tan yet indians and africans who are brown are still heavily discriminated against and told their skin isn't it.

[@ItsOnlyAlayna]

Have you guys seen the article on Shirley Bassey and her views on how us women should live our lives? (article here - www.nme.com/news/shirley-bassey/89821 )

[@briarts]

It is a huge misunderstanding that a "privilege" of lighter skinned people during slavery was working in the house. The status of a house slave was not based on skin tone. Also the lighter skinned women in the house were abused primarily due to the jealousy/anger of the wives. The only difference in being a house slave was not having to suffer outside.

[@ccmm5776]

Lighter skined House slaves also Sometimes had the privilege of learning how to Read and also had the opportunity to be more excepted into society and sometimes even had closer proximity to their freedom than darker skinned slaves

[@cecilia08yeah]

Love you

[@cjthewhovian]

I, personally, have never been comfortable in my skin because I feel as though I am too dark. I don't think it's because of racism and the media, I just don't like the colour and I hate taking photos without good lighting. I've considered using skin lightening cream and I didn't think it was a bad thing because many pale people use fake tan. Is it really that bad to use skin lightening cream?

[@cgijane]

+PandaManda think about why you feel as though you are too dark? what is too dark? will you inherently love your skin if it is lighter?

[@bisexellence__]

I hope you've grown to gain knowledge of self since this comment. This is sad to see.

[@paulinabringas98]

In Mexico Colorism is absolutely everywhere shamelessly

[@NB-oc1fy]

+paulina bringas not even just colorism -- straight racism is rampant. If you have indigenous features, like the majority of Mexicans have, you aren't seen as beautiful as the more Spanish-looking Mexicans. Not to mention that Mexico only just acknowledged its Afro-Mexican population lol

[@paulinabringas98]

totally agree, and not only is it consequence of the division of castas during the colonial time, but also because of how much influence we have from the US, making our beauty standards just as " White/European" as theirs

[@itsdaneesaur]

I really like 4 Minute Feminism!

[@UshioKiss]

Even if it has mostly dissimilar origins, I definitely think it's weird to see almost exclusively light skinned characters in east Asian media (if there's any variety at all in an anime or manga I consider it lucky. if there is a dark skinned character, there's only a few. anime like michiko to hatchin, while don't take place in japan, are fantastic!)

[@kareno.2654]

Great vid! Could you also talk about the term People of Color in another video? I know this term is meant to encompass all non-white people but I feel weird using the term because I'm a light-skinned, non-white Latina and visibly not of color.

[@BattyButtercup]

+Karen O. I can relate. I am a light-skinned white-passing halfsie (white and asian) so I often feel it very inappropriate to call myself a POC but I hate the idea of leaving out my mother and her heritage when identifying my race. I tend to just sort of use the word "not white" in a similar way as how, being asexual, I tend to use the word "not straight" or "queer".

[@meeluumeeloo4318]

+BattyButtercup Ya, this is a complex issue. I think POC is a term that should be embracing of all our non-white communities, as long as a serious convo is had about colourism, white-passing, and focuses on the experiences and struggle of those of us who live as visible minorities. I would appreciate, if she chooses to talk about this, inviting a black woman to discuss it along with her. Overall, I do love her videos tho. :)

[@simmer484]

+Karen O. What exactly is happening in your life that you need to refer to yourself as anything other than your name?

[@kareno.2654]

simmer484 Race is happening, like it always has been in the lives of everyone.

[@simmer484]

Karen O. Race is not an event nor a shared experience that is on going. It is just a description of your blood line. I really wouldn't get hung up on trying to fit yourself in to a neat little phrase. There has been a resurgence in the last decade of obsessing over race, and this time it is being pushed by people who claim to speak on behalf of all "People of colour". Given the efforts of the likes of Martin Luther King Jr to make what race you are the least important thing about you, the irony of who is pushing this 'race first' agenda is just overwhelming. I have mixed lineage and I would never associate with this "people of colour" movement. It is toxic and divisive.

[@lunaluna245]

how about flashcards for feministd? or flashcard feminism? idk but I love the idea!

[@Hchris101]

No new video in six years 😞

[@lucetnox3440]

My issue here is: what do you plan to do? You cannot tell people what they are allowed to like and dislike. If there is evidence that biases based on color may influence law enforcement, then laws surrounding greater scrutiny can be put in place. But: As for people using creams or other methods of changing themselves, as for people deciding to favor one color over another, as for people being influenced by media outlets instead of their own thoughts or placing greater stock in media than family, there is nothing you can do unless you seek to control what people are allowed to think or control what they are allowed to say. People have to be left to make their own decisions, if you try to control them to fit the vision that you think is correct, then you are just as bad as the people who have attempted to sway them in the opposite direction.

[@heatherhattle4893]

4 minute feminism sounds like a good title. like the video, can't wait for more.

[@walterrising4276]

Cancer

[@ayanna6327]

Finally someone who explained it to me properly.

[@LittleMissJazzymoto]

So I recently got into a debate (last night in class, Comm 444 Mediation) with a classmate that is very white looking/passing (not even sure which to use for him). He is over 6' 5" and his arms are covered in freckles and has a very white sounding last name, but he has native american in his blood, like his grandmother. He uses a lot of "i'm white and I don't have privilege" language that discounts other people of color's racism they still experience today, and he backs it up with being native american. Any advice or way to address this?

[@59brownbear]

+SeriouslyJazmyn Maybe he isn't privileged. People can still face racism without being "oppressed", and White people can get no benefit due to skin color and therefore not be "privileged". It could be that some people can be racist, and it not be part of a "system of oppression".

[@j.e.9737]

If he's light enough to pass for white, then I'm sure others assume he's white like you said. Therefore, others treat him as if he were white. That is his privilege.

[@beautifulmind6697]

He's probably not even Native

[@ReadHeadPat]

can someone explain to me the term "latinx" ?

[@goldfinger4953]

People took the word "Latino" and removed the letter O that in the spanish language would make it be masculine (in some cases). The letter X is meant to be a substitute for the letter O or A. LatinO is a term used to refer to latin males. LatinA is a term used to refer to latin females. The word Latino is also a term that can be used to refer to all people of latin background. The spanish language is a romantic language, and like all romantic languages, it is gendered. It is not a sexist thing nor is it a way to leave out genders or to refer to males as the main gender. Some people took a word from a language that declares it gender neutral and decided to change it to make it gender neutral. They completely ignored the background of the language to cater to something that is already catered. My opinion is that if people want a gender neutral term, Latino is the answer.

[@yellowcat25]

great video! I've known about this for a while but knew it under the name shadeism. "United states and Asia and other COUNTRIES" marianaaaaa asia is a continent

[@saeefa]

South Asians are the biggest consumers of fairness creams, Fair $ Lovely creams are an obsession.

[@MulataLinda8]

Wow.. I've never heard of a paper bag test 🙁😕

[@ioanateo1359]

You are doing God's work. The world really needed an intelligent person to simplify and explain feminism and racism to people. So often sexist men try to blindside feminists with fake or biased arguments, someone needs to lay down the truth

[@ioanateo1359]

That's true, racist and sexist women definitely exist, but the strongest opposition to equality tends to come from males who feel threatened for some reason

[@59brownbear]

+Ioana Teo Probably because men's issues are dismissed(e.g child custody rights) and their problems can be dismissed due to their perceived privilege. The phrase "check your privilege" is simply discounting someone's opinion based on their gender, skin color, etc. Not exactly equality is it?.

[@Rosa5311]

even in the modeling industry, if you look at most of the black models or models of colour, the majority of them are lighter skinned and have more western features (thinner nose and straight long hair), so you'll get white fashion designers that are praised for using models of colour in their shows, but when you look into it further you will just see 1 or 2 light skinned models of colour and then the rest will obviously be white

[@kudratbains3615]

everyone considers racism to be an american thing but that's just due to westernization, someone already mentioned the pre-born racism in asian countries but i would like to talk about India. Colour is still a MAJOR factor in india, racism in india is so very complex that even though Indian activists are trying to change views, the belief that white skin= pretty has been so deeply ingrained in our minds that it's virtually impossible to erase it.Developed countries are still discreet and indirect,but in a country where people have been brought up with the belief that darker people, black people receive direct assault. The entire idea that fair=better/richer, has come about from british colonization.I would love to see a video about the difficulties of being dark in india because nobody outside of india verifies it as an actual problem,but when people are losing jobs,marriages, and even lives, i consider it a serious enough topic to spread awareness about.

[@theFLABROLL]

Wait so what's the difference between colourism and racism

[@lataviaj7399]

In the summer this guy my friend is friends with told me I was evil because I am dark skinned and he is afraid of dark skinned girls. He is darker than me.

[@j.e.9737]

Black men are becoming known for their hypocrisy. They are beginning to shun dark-skinned girls for being dark-skinned...despite being dark-skinned themselves. Smh

[@lataviaj7399]

+Jada Evans Truuue! it was a mess. He then tried to ask me for money. 😒

[@diilavery4825]

"I'm a little pushed for time lately. I'll give the video an alliterative title and people will totally buy it" :D

[@immysnowden]

Feminutes

[@DitloNio]

Where there's a racist, there's somebody else that finds dark skin to be attractive. Where there's homophobia, there's the LGBTQ community. Where there's religion, there's atheism. Where there's terrorism, there are many people dying, and many other people trying to stop them. What I find different about terrorists and racism and homophobia--not too much.

[@hobartbartholomewpepperidgejr]

this just sounds like racism with extra steps

[@djohnson002759]

Why didn't you link the studies for the statistics you cited? It would seem they are the most important facts of your assertions.

[@marinashutup]

+Duane Johnson They're in the description of the video? Where I said they'd be?

[@djohnson002759]

Okay. I must have missed one.l

[@djohnson002759]

+Duane Johnson so you just linked articles that made assertions without context of the study. This is handy for creating arguments from credulity but not for facts and data.

[@FIyingDumpling]

+Duane Johnson she left the spoons at the table

[@rogue-ish5713]

Fast forward Feminism.

[@The25bear]

Damn I forgot the title of the movie but I recently watched a film about the aboriginal people of Australia and these siblings where taken from their mothers to a camp to raise them to be "acceptable to white society". They escaped and traveled hundreds of miles to get back home. Colorism had a lot to do with this movie and they even had tests to determine if you where "genetically superior" than others and if you where deemed "white enough" one could go to a better camp and get an education and opportunity for a higher paying job. It was a really good movie and a really sad (I total cried) if I do find it I'll share the title!

[@pursepurse1652]

Hi, Aussie reporting in to help! The movie is called Rabbit Proof Fence (which I'm sure every Aussie under 20 has seen at one point in school) and isn't more so about colourism then it is the Stolen Generation, a very bleak and horrible period of Australian history.

[@The25bear]

+Farrah Robel thank you! I watched it on Netflix and it was an amazing movie. Yeah it wasn't much about Colorism but I just noticed it in one part of the movie and the video reminded me about it :p Thanks again for the help!

[@j.e.9737]

OMG! Thank you so much for telling us what it was. Saw the movie a long time ago, never knew what the name was. Thank you!

[@BriEmmDee]

I've been told as a child that I would be much prettier if I had lighter skin. Ironically enough, that comment came from a dark skinned woman.

[@sircompliments5380]

Why the heck was I recommended this??? Cool anyway

[@diamondruby25]

I always heard this was a thing with white people as well until some actress stayed outside in the sun too long.

[@forgotten4006]

Algorithm???

[@Ninja_Bryden]

The definition of "colorism" really sounds a lot like RACISM...

[@peanutbutter655]

I think to main difference is that a colorist black person could think that another is ugly for being dark but still not advocate for "all lives matter"

[@satanlordofhell5834]

Not racism since nowadays colorism happens between people of the same race.

[@mainspringguerrilla6841]

Feminist fuck yeahs.

[@mychairmadeafartnois]

fun size feminism (I think it's funny because *all* feminism is fun size :D)

[@marinashutup]

+fannarrativeftw I thought about using that as a title before actually!

[@mychairmadeafartnois]

+marinashutup well shucks, now I'm just stupidly pleased with myself ☺️. But four minute feminism still sounds nice honestly.

[@dragonas52]

Watch this Video: "#ViolenceIsViolence: Domestic abuse advert Mankind" And this: "Men are animals - Feminism." And all people who say feminism is for equality please tell me why the first video is made by a antifeminist and not a feminist.

[@dragonas52]

***** Did you watch the first video?

[@dragonas52]

***** Then the anti-feminism will further grow.

[@TheWIB101]

Maybe 4minuteFem? lol idk...

[@albertgray3677]

Why is this in my recommended wtf algorithm what u sayin?

[@Cascade7155]

you're a feminist now. you don't have a choice

[@titanicinspiration6093]

One of my good friends has dark skin. He is from Sri Lanka and whenever we talk together he mention how he feels about his skin. He looks at me and says: "you America, you wouldn't understand." He tells me he doesn't know why he feels this way and always reminds me of how he needs skin lightening to be successful. He has asked me to buy him skin whitening products several times, to which my answer has always been no. It breaks me up. One day I hope that he will look in mirror and realize that he's a beautiful guy.

[@tegamingother]

I dont believe the vedda people in Sri Lanka have colorism. Cuz any vedda light or dark can be whatever they want. Am. I right or wrong? Its usually the native peoples that dont have ridiculous condition and problems such as an advanced society.

[@tegamingother]

Also my sister had a friend that was Sri Lankan and he looked black as fuck! It's fascinating.

[@nesadcruz7840]

@@tegamingother colorism definitely exists in Sri Lanka

[@tegamingother]

@@nesadcruz7840 did you not read what i just said i said the native people only not the people living in society based on a more complex structural system. "the old fashioned way" ones are what im talking about.

[@nesadcruz7840]

@@tegamingother what do you mean by “ native” ? Was back then and even now it is an issue. There is also a caste system at work, not only among Hindus but even Christians.

[@scottibugatti7122]

Colorism? Is that a fancy way of saying racism

[@rrteppo]

Yes, but with extra steps to exclude "white passing, mostly Asians" from minority status.

[@DitloNio]

"fastinism"

[@kant12]

Great idea except for this video being over 4 minutes. :(

[@TheSproulerMonster]

The first 49 seconds are her explaining what the series is about though, rather than the actual topic of the video

[@kant12]

TheSproulerMonster Then great idea!!

[@WBROTHERS]

Isn't this just...racism

[@Sloxx701]

"Please explain to me what white privilege is? I wait in line at the grocery store like everybody else!" Can't remember where I saw it the other day but it's still gold

[@adamsandler3098]

This entire video I think is pretty flawed. During the beginning, she mentioned historical racism involving slavery and segregation, and by all means was actually racist. However when she started bringing up Asia, this was mainly discrimination by the people in Asia against the other people from Asia, and this beauty standard and/or prejudice developed mainly by religious ties and the idea that if you stayed inside more often, (as most wealthy people did at the time, because they had lower class citizens do jobs for them) they would have lighter skin, therefore they would be seen as higher status and more desirable in their society. Where this video really starts to derail, however, is when she brings up our current "discriminatory" western beauty standards. What she isn't taking in account is that Europe is a mainly Caucasian continent, along with North America. So typically beauty standards would be set to be achievable for the majority of their citizens. But in the United States, beauty standards have changed, where tan and dark skin has become very desirable for models. But what I really don't like is when she quoted someone who was an African American celebrity to talk about how prejudice involving western beauty standards affects her and most African Americans. Obviously she wasn't receiving prejudice or being excluded when she won an award. In contrast, she mentioned crime and how is somehow was discriminatory, but don't these individuals have a choice to commit crimes or not? Plus some of the statistics she used were either false or taken completely out of context. I say this because most crimes committed by Caucasians are directed toward other Caucasians, and the same for African Americans. I also noticed she never said what the death penalty was for, but she promoted the idea that it had something to do with their race. This is why I think this video is pretty flawed overall, and maybe these details should be mentioned.

[@cdviix3425]

4:06 why should you feel bad it’s their choice?

[@kimberley8902]

Colorism 🤦‍♀️!! Next topic: pronouns 🤦‍♀️