“Gambling Expert on How to Beat the 7!”

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[@Nola_Travel]

His writing style was so unique. That book is fun to read. Really good section on money management, as well

[@texdevildog9174]

I call this the " drink for free for a long time" strategy

[@Darksider-di2vo]

As you stated, some casinos will not allow a doey dont. i.e. one is the Monarch in Black Hawk plus some others there. Many in other states will not allow it as well.🤷‍♂I did a large study with over 200,000 live table rolls I charted myself and a custom Wincraps betting script. I did the doey dont vs a strait DP bet and over the 200k live table rolls the strait DP faired way better than the doey dont. In other words the doey dont will cost you money in the long run doing this because you are "nulling" all the even money DP wins when you do a doey dont bet. Yes you will not lose the DP to the 7 or 11 on the comeout but the rub is you are missing all the even money nopass wins with odds in your favor.🤷‍♂

[@vince7189]

love this guy read all his books. His theories are the basis for all my play styles

[@JimJimTheProfessor]

The legend. I’m curious to see how it rolls out.

[@AlexP253]

I just returned from a cruise, tried a few of your strategies and was up and down. Settled on 42 on 6&8 working, collecting $50/1 and did ok but of course it all depends on the dice.

[@slloyd9892]

This system is often referred to as "The Switzerland" because its "neutral" lol. Well that's what the local dealers in Reno call it. Peppermill in Reno is the only casino that I know of that won't let you play pass and don't pass at the same time.

[@Darksider-di2vo]

You rolled 33 rolls and there were only 2 sevens! A "smart" don't player will "not" be betting darkside when sevens are rolling behind. Always be aware of where the KING "7" is in distribution!😎😉 Best of Luck at the Tables!😎

[@traceyB6589]

I would like to see you doing these strategies on a live table. My local has some dark side players but maybe I will try this strategy with them.

[@iobjection]

I think I definitely prefer the Arnold for betting on the 7

[@butch14ful]

Like most hedging strats a grind where you may win a little but can be at table a long time.

[@en6173]

You’re better off betting the world bet if you put money on the pass line if you’re worried about rolling a 2, 3 or 12 on the come out roll.

[@WClark-lp9vc]

Do you get dealers that get frustrated with hedge strategies? Then have some players that throw a hissy when someone bets the Donts?

[@douglasscovil3447]

have never been to a casino table that allowed an equal Doey-Don't bet, and have never seen bubble craps anywhere that allows you to make a Doey-Don't bet. what casinos allow this?

[@ggcaribou]

Instead of the Paas Line bet, why not just hop the red for $3 and a $1 Yo (assuming $10 don't pass)? Having the pass line bet breaks even on your Don't Pass bet if the 7 comes up and you have to hedge more odds on the second roll to protect the first Don't Come since you have to cover your pass line as well. What am I missing about the pass line for this system?

[@bobafettpac]

The only thing I can see is $10 if you happen to hit the point.

[@ggcaribou]

@@bobafettpac agreed, but then what is the point of the bet? You can't win because a 7 makes the don't win and the point makes the pass win. The only thing it does is increase your exposure trying to hedge the first don't come because now you have to protect the don't come and the pass line from the point-7 roll

[@zcnsb]

Thoughts on the come ladder by pro craps?

[@erikcharlat9844]

will ya get and kind of player rating doing a hedge like that?

[@jimklemens5018]

The big problem for me on this strategy is that the initial Doey Don't bets are not rated for comps.

[@traceyB6589]

This makes me think its a better way to play then.

[@jimklemens5018]

@@traceyB6589 It is very hard to win money.

[@darrenkennedy5990]

What about a hedge bet by hopping the 23 and 14?

[@jimklemens5018]

@@darrenkennedy5990 Huh?

[@bobafettpac]

Anyway to find out if a casino allows a doey/dont bet, besides going to the casino and asking?

[@jimklemens5018]

Casinos will allow a Doey Don't because you can only lose.

[@deestavo]

Bubble craps, roll to win, casino wizard and pretty much any electronic craps won’t let you fyi

[@lunaticfringe896]

I do it all the time in Vegas without incident

[@wigawaga1]

The last was 33 rolls. Small hit. Modest pressing would have yielded hundreds easily

[@kenmason1461]

Can see anything

[@salvitolicavoli4575]

Hate this. A lot of pointless action that slows down the game without any real opportunity for big gains but definitely opportunities for repeated losses.

[@franciscodiegozavala71]

😮

[@rooksbaby4169]

Play this strategy and you’d get rated horrible at most casinos bc little to no house edge due to hedging.

[@ryne16]

Does not affect the house edge.

[@bmathesen248]

As JP would say there are two types of people in the casino. You’re either an expert or you’re a dope.