This Dying Light 2 Update Broke EVERTHING...

[@ColossalKiwi]

It seems there's some bot pretending to be me that's replying to every comment with a whatsapp number. I am not giving away a PS5. That is not me. Do not interact with that bot.

[@supreme_brick]

But you should give away a ps5 and give it to me

[@Dios_De_La_Muerte]

Good thing i already had a ps5 then.

[@tudy000]

I was scared there for a second LOL

[@command_sans]

Yeah i knew it already

[@command_sans]

Btw they nerfed the thing for weapon so the damage is reduced from 100% at max lvl to 50% at max lvl

[@exasperrating9479]

Personally I think craft masters should have the ability to repair weapons, maybe have the korek be the more expensive, on-the-go repair, and have the craft masters be cheaper since they're out of the way

[@rosalyndt85]

Something the developers might add in another patch

[@exasperrating9479]

@@rosalyndt85 hopefully, though I feel it's odd it wasn't there out the gate

[@cabelgallagher2475]

That I never thought of.... I hope the developer read that idea

[@takoshihitsamaru4675]

It's true, having no repair option beyond modding always struck me as odd.

[@BIGLastofusfan]

That's is a pretty awesome idea actually you are so smart!!

[@Left4hire]

I think the 666 metal scraps for the charm should change to the amount of how much durability a weapon lost. For example, if you lost 176 durability on a weapon it would cost 176 scrap to put on the charm. Edit: Apparently on twitter, the lead designer of the game, Tymon was not aware of the korek charm nerf and said that he’ll try to restore it and make it more meaningful.

[@mr.mittens9123]

that's actually a really interesting idea!

[@NewVergas]

This comment makes me think the people at techland think with their asses and wait for us to give the actually good ideas

[@victz283]

+ good thinking

[@Left4hire]

@@NewVergas Probably, who knows? For right now I think I’ll be better off farming artifact weapons rather than repairing them with the charm since the crafting recipes already have a high demand for scrap.

[@andrewjames3607]

good idea actually or even have it cost 1.25x whatever durability it will repair, up to a cap of like 500 or smt

[@alexmcclinton4560]

If the korek charm is going to be like that, then I really think they should bring back the dismantle mechanic making it easier to obtain resources such as scrap, or even craft parts from a weapon with mods on it but just make it a chance thing so its not guaranteed to never run out of parts in the game.

[@TiberiousGreene]

It takes a long time to collect scraps too, even though they are EVERYWHERE it’s like 3 here 5 there!! You’ll be spending hours trying to find scrap just to fix a weapon! If they want to charge scrap it should be way less 200 I think seems fair

[@seanwilliams9457]

@@TiberiousGreene I think it should depend on the rarity of the weapon and whether or not you have mods attached

[@Gallant_Tuba_Knight]

It costs 6000+ to buy a purple lvl 9 weapon with 173 resistance that breaks stupid fast because of the constant fighting in order to level up my quite already hard to level combat skill, so what? Am I to avoid fights all together now? cuz I ain't fucking wasting 666 for a repair, that's for sure!

[@CharlesVanexX]

@@Gallant_Tuba_Knight Nope. FUCK that

[@Kawi650]

Or at least a repair option like dl1

[@shenanigans1413]

I don’t like how they’re changing the game to be such a massive grind, it’s you vs the environment. Who doesn’t want something to be overpowered. Every max level item takes 100 uncommon trophies to upgrade which is really annoying, especially when you’re a high level player and fighting virals at lvl 8 and 9 they don’t just die in 1 or 2 hits. I can agree with the night time changes, I like that being more difficult in chases but they should also address the almost grid-like spawns of howlers, they’re basically everywhere. If you only run on the roof tops that doesn’t matter. I’d also like to see a much higher cap on resources for the player if you’re going to make some items like the boomslang be 300+ and now that charm be 600+ once you craft that charm, you might as well start scrounging for more scraps straight away but good luck not using your weapon while you do that.

[@CayeDaws]

No Mans Sky all over again

[@shenanigans1413]

@@CayeDaws never played it because of all the reviews about it

[@xxxilluminate5754]

Yep ain’t no way i’m grinding time and effort into this game after beating it when i’ve already put myself to pain and agony on Elden Ring

[@VENENOSEASON]

Fr man who tf nerfs a single player game😂

[@AlissaWonderland]

@@shenanigans1413 Rn is a better game than it was before, specially with friends

[@bagofcoins2826]

the grapple hook should be reverted to how it was, and the korek charm aswell. thats my personal opinion

[@NerDios]

i think this rly makes the game worse (atleast for me) because i had so much fun climbing with the hook and it wasnt even that op because you could run out of stamina idk why they changed the hook but i hope they reverse it

[@jakesteinman1712]

@@NerDios fr bro felt like spiderman the grapple was one the best things about the game. not to mention korek and the developer flat out lying mannnn

[@mmdareb5378]

@@NerDios even if it's op it's single player game

[@mikeymartinez4809]

@@mmdareb5378 yeah like keep your playerbase entertained why take away one of the best parts of the game?

[@NerDios]

@@mmdareb5378 yeah thats why i am confused of why they did it

[@raginghalone7228]

The grappling hook change really sucks. Now it has become a niche tool you use on a handful of jumping puzzles instead of using it to traverse the open world. They basically killed it...

[@rhodamyersparker5006]

And it already wasn’t the best especially compared to the one in the 1st game

[@archbishopofthecrusades9579]

I don’t like the changes to the charm and grappling hook, but I’m glad they’re fixing the things people complained about.

[@ColossalKiwi]

Right there with ya

[@Wizardmaster710]

Im not diggin 666 scraps for the korek charm 😂i think 450 would be reasonable tbh

[@xapplejax141x]

250 scrap at best

[@Chocolatenuhuh]

well for me i have around 8600 scrabs since i uh used a lil bit of hacking and all that 😅so i dont gotta worry about that but tbh i agree that kinda sucks

[@redfoxdog1]

@@Chocolatenuhuh how?

[@Idothinkysaurus]

They need to make the material inventory infinite (or practically infinite) like the first game. I was caught off guard the first time I couldn't pick up scrap because it was full.

[@TUGamerTM]

The korek charm change sucks massively, there's just not enough scraps in the world to repair your weapon constantly. I just feel like I'm hitting zombies with a pillow in the endgame no matter how high power the weapon is. Also the grappling hook nerf kinda sucks as well but hey, that one has a legitimate reason.

[@maciejilski7185]

this and also, durability mod is actually not working and you can only have 999 scraps. That means massive scrap farm and honestly.. who even has time for that?

[@lostpuppy8847]

Takes 2 hits to the normal infected and 3 to vitals if your damage is atleast 480, not that bad

[@deadn3t]

That’s probably their goal, switch weapons don’t stick to one.

[@CharlesVanexX]

@@lostpuppy8847 When you're at the end game, kinda feel like a sword should be chopping heads off by then with one or two hits

[@ethanolszewski7016]

@@deadn3t unless you punch everything XD

[@Mikester4411]

"Improved biter behavior during the day. The enemy latches onto the players more frequently which diversifies enemy encounters,." I feel like that's a step in the wrong direction until they add a counter to it like in the first game! It's infuriating getting caught in a grapple animation - QTE loop! Also I'd love to see camouflaging return!

[@Error-_-763]

They are grappling way too much now. Yesterday I got chain grappled by 5 zombies thinking they were khabib

[@NewVegasMPx]

This mechanic is the worst. It’s not even difficult, it just completely kills the vibe of a nice fight, being auto grabbed every damn second. And now it happens more frequently wtf…

[@microkiwi1]

EVERYBODY PANIC!!!

[@tharealtnt]

EVERYBODY RIOT!!!

[@Frostplayzttv]

Riot really?

[@xleaderx1289]

Gotta rewrite the guide now

[@rsho3472]

I'm wearing lots of belts

[@PheenixspeedHR]

NO

[@gonb3259]

Most of the additions and changes this update brings us are great. More difficult chases, more banshees and chargers and most importantly more gore. However, the changes to the korek charm are unneeded, so are the changes to the hook. Though I can get over the hook, it won't take long to adapt to it again.

[@SpecialInMyOwnWay]

Nah the hook was way too OP man you litterally didnt have to do any parkour. This will make it more fun i feel after you get used to it.

[@mikemajor6138]

I understand the change with the grappling hook you couldn't even spam it like that in the first game. but the change to the charm is gonna be annoying, Kiwi's right they should either lower the cost or increase the amount we can carry. I think the first game allowed us to carry over a thousand metal scraps but idk the max

[@cheekibreeki1983]

More then a thousand, maybe 9999

[@llIIllIIIIll]

Max metal scraps on the old game was 999999

[@mikemajor6138]

@@llIIllIIIIll yeah see that's what we need in Dying Light 2

[@har8183]

Yeah it was more than a thousand. I think a had like 100000 scraps in dl2 Edit: dl1

[@cocknball2732]

999

[@xthee_0nly_1x11]

If people don’t like OP stuff in a game, then they just shouldn’t use it. Simple as that, you have this thing called free-will after all. You can choose what to use and what not to use. Just because you don’t want to use something doesn’t mean others don’t. Some games are just meant to be played for fun. If some people want to use OP stuff for fun after a long hard day of work then they should be able to do that, if others want to use the balanced weapons for a more immersive experience, then nothing is stopping them from doing that. Enough of this complaining to the devs to nerf everything. I swear it’s like people take games way too seriously because they have no life or real world accomplishments outside of video games or something. Just cool it and play how you want to play and let others play how they want to play.

[@That_Random_British_Dude]

Agreed, I'm sad about how the grappling hooks been nerfed, not gonna be as fun, and the Korek charm. I never have enough scrap for any of the dev items, so the charm was a blessing

[@jamtorres680]

I know man preach! That wad the beauty of dying light, NOTHING IS SUPPOSED TO MAKE SENSE!!. I mean shit the grappling hook in DL1 was WAAAAAAY more OP and not a single soul cried over it

[@LordFerbombi]

This comment made no sense lol

[@MrLordbubasith]

@@LordFerbombi just reread it a few times, maybe at a slower speed, hopefully you will get there. don't give up, you have my full support.

[@Heisenberg000.]

It would’ve made the game a lot easier if they actually had the repair mechanic in the game in the first place

[@HebuTheLoneWolf]

i guess the Korek charm nerf is result of community crying that it was way too OP and those who think its too OP and needs to be removed: u know u dont have to use it, and its not like u come a cross of it by playing the game normally. also DL2 is mainly single player game with COOP as an option. its not like there is PvP that would be ruined by it

[@ARMYEEUU]

Is an option you can use people complain OP those idiots shouldn't use it problem solved but give options to the players TECHLAND for every thing you do right you do something much worst, I wish it was on ps2 atleast then you'll know you'll have a complete game an you'll keep all the cheats and loops you find honestly fk TECHLAND

[@h2oallegation]

And also like you said, its completely optional, and it actually is tedious to get to, so the people complaining about it took the time put of their day to get it, like it shouldn't have been nerfed people are way to soft.

[@kableguy8975]

I don't mind the hook but 666 scraps to repair is a bit much.. they need to either lower that quite a bit, or like you said, carry more scraps.

[@yaboyjosh7746]

Or just bring back the dismantle option for unwanted weapons like in DL1

[@brianyourmaster4299]

@@yaboyjosh7746 just drop it?

[@AWonderingTraveIer]

@@brianyourmaster4299 In the first game if you dismantle you got scraps for it.

[@brianyourmaster4299]

@@AWonderingTraveIer dang you are right i am stupid

[@Saiko8096]

The whole game play I never went above 300 scrap

[@yunusgureli7090]

Being able to scale buildings using the grappling hook was a bit OP but it looks like they nerfed the amount it pulls you up. Why not just add a delay to the hook so we can still utulize the boost.

[@greatgameplayswalkthroughs660]

Now to traverse the map will take longer, the full game will take longer, and with the grind...

[@NewCandyCane]

@@greatgameplayswalkthroughs660 I think it's for the better.

[@Lbdataz1469]

The hook was not OP at all, where are you people getting at that it was OP. If anything it sucks. So what's the incentive to max it out if it's just as trash as level 1 at level 3? The hook change is definitely not wanted by majority of players and if you think it needed a nerf you're a moron.

[@tbd3336]

@@Lbdataz1469 huff that copium harder, it was OP you climb radio towers instantly if you have enough stamina, I also don't like the change but calling it no OP is dumb.

[@mariobadia4553]

@@tbd3336 oh no people want to play the game their own way and not just the way the developers want them to how dare they

[@thegamingfreak31]

Heavily dislike the charm changes I feel that should have stayed the same tbh it wasn't broken unless they plan to add super op weapons into the game later on

[@elliotowen9276]

I completely agree, maybe it was the right move to add a cost but 666 metal scraps takes ages to collect.

[@poopybutthole3961]

Elliot Owen I agree as well, but you can collect scraps a little bit more easily by going to bed twice and going to the merchant & mechanic and buying the scraps (if you have money) and repeat the process. Takes a while but you’ll get to 999 in like 15min if your consistent.

[@El_Rabbit]

@@elliotowen9276 Agree, the cost should be like 200 scraps. A lot but affordable

[@TiberiousGreene]

@@poopybutthole3961 but between the two weapons that cost like 350 scraps and now 666 scraps for one fix

[@HorrendousCaliber]

Wait the update came today???

[@booarb]

I wasn't sure if I regretted getting DL2 after Elden Ring came out cause I was really enjoying myself for the first 60+ hours I've played and with a single update I can now confidently say I deeply regret getting DL2 I don't wanna play a single player game where the devs nerf the parts that make it a fun solo experience I already spend enough scrap and money trying to upgrade items and weapon mods and now I have to go out of my way to spend even more of both just to keep a weapon's durability high if they're gonna keep this change then they should let players have dupe and upgrade glitches no one wants to spend all their time scrounging for scrap and money that's what makes the game boring and a chore and no one wants that for a dying light game of all games

[@rookiecamper4311]

i agree 100+ hrs now im uninstalling no point to play a grind fest if i wanted that i would play ark

[@andrewjames3607]

and anybody who wants to be able to grind already had tons of items and upgrades to grind for. grinding in games (imo) is only fun when its optional, if i constantly have to search every body, bag, chest, trash can for scraps just to repair my weapon from almost broke after a single fight then its just not fun.

[@atk2720]

@@rookiecamper4311 ngl i did the same

[@lazyvoid7107]

Cry about kid

[@adamparker3151]

@@lazyvoid7107 No, Techland will however. I quit the game aswell.

[@vennyBlacklist]

This patch is good. But like - WTF is THIS? Grapple Hook revert sucks. Korek Charm got nerfed even the Lead Game Designer Tymom said that his Korek Charm will not be changed? Well that was a lie. But I hope Techland is thinking about reverting the grapple hook

[@electrowizard3209]

The B

[@1996NarutoUzumaki]

How is it good then? Haha

[@thepassivepasta4982]

He was actually in the dark about the korek charm from what I've heard, and is even trying to restore it

[@cameronalexander9404]

The korek change is so stupid. There goes the one thing I was excited for getting to keep cool weapons and the ultimate edition with the machete and hatchet looked awesome. So much for looking forward to keeping and using them.

[@Bloom0029]

You realize that the ultimate edition rewards respawn infinitely in your stash once they break?

[@mandalorian7678]

@@Bloom0029 no they don't so don't lie.

[@jamierafferty8373]

@@mandalorian7678 they do, well they do for me anyway.

[@mandalorian7678]

@@jamierafferty8373 well they don't unless you are using exploit/glitch by duplicating in co op like I see so many youtubers do even seen someone do it on a twitch stream and when chat pulled them up on it and clipped it they stopped streaming.

[@Oilupimtherein5]

@@mandalorian7678 they... they literally do though. You redeem it then you have to wait on a cool down but you can get them over and over

[@mookachalupa]

I really didn’t think they’d scrap/change some of the things that the community had seemed to love the most

[@ultradeathboy]

I understand that they probably did that with the weapon charm so that people couldn't infinitely keep their.durabilty up but they should lower that number to 300 or 200 instead of maybe only 100

[@cabelgallagher2475]

I agree with the cap... If they are going to put a heavy price to keep a weapon, then increase storage. This is a game, not a job/cellular game; I & most players have a personal life, family, job, or school. I'll miss the hook climb but understandable

[@ColossalKiwi]

Super reasonable response

[@TiberiousGreene]

I agree I use the charm a lot as well as the broom now it makes it a lot of fun! I dont have 500hrs to dedicate to a game! I have a personal life and a career lol just let us have fun

[@maciejilski7185]

Also unfortunately uncommon farm is still unchanged and its rubbish.

[@CayeDaws]

This is like No Mans Sky devs removing a bug that objectively made their game less annoying, such as that one bug from the abyss that made it so you can mine everything with a normal mining laser

[@ncrranger6303]

Rip grappling hook also, NOOOOOOO NOT THE KOREK CHARM ):

[@Jeptheplay]

now the game became really boring to me...

[@fayaz2301]

Lead developer Tymon said he was unaware of the change to the Korek charm and he stated, “I’ll try to restore it and make it more meaningful”.

[@itsClaptrap]

I at least hope they make it reasonably out of the way to get like either let us get more scrap easier or tone down that cost, 600 scrap for anything is a bit ridiculous, even for just 1 full weapon repair like if it was 600 scrap for literal infinite durability, then ok that's understandable. But it isnt, we'd have to get 600 every single time we want to repair our fav weapon fuuuuuck that im already spending hours farming for trophies im not farming for so much scrap only to lose it immediately

[@fayaz2301]

@@itsClaptrap I find this nerf very dumb. You basically have to be near completion of the game to even get the charm. You also can just buy scrap and go to sleep and do that process again, so whats the point of having a limit. A change shouldn’t have been done. If they really had an issue with it they should’ve not just kept it in the game or had the craft masters just build you that same weapon or to even repair it.

[@adamparker3151]

They better. Not playing till its changed.

[@lejlab3411]

The Korek Charm Nerf sucks absolute ass , they didn't need any changes at all. It's an a real lame nerf...

[@steveradroach9101]

I feel ya,all that because of the cry babies that were complaining about it 😒

[@sowhatimsilly4827]

I don’t speedrun and are still annoyed at the grappling hook nerf as some glitches prevented me from doing windmills correctly so thats the only way i could do them

[@billybillerey3933]

From the dying light 2 discord a few minutes ago "@everyone Hey! We hear you - you love the korek charm, and you want to keep using it, so in the upcoming patches we will make some tweaks to the charm which will make it more usable for the player. Stay Awesome and keep the feedback coming!"

[@CRITTER_FROG]

Why did they get rid of the repairing mechanic anyway? It should've just stayed the same as the first game.

[@JudeTheYoutubePoopersubscribe]

well that was quick

[@Norinia]

This is shit. The grappling hook didn’t need any change, you couldn’t just fly, you needed to catch a point, and if you didn’t half way up, you’d fall to death anyways. There is literally no reason to upgrade the grappling hook anymore because of this. The pull feature only worked if you were looking up. That was the only way it could save a person running parkour if they misjudged a jump a bit. Now, jump the gap and miss? By the time you’ve used your grappling hook, you’re already half way back to the bottom. Can’t believe I wasted so much time hoping this PoS would improve.

[@eitanelster]

i hope they revert korek and grappling hook. RIP

[@simonh7954]

I mean you don’t even get it till the end of the game anyway

[@adamparker3151]

@@simonh7954 So? They should worry about nerfing Dying Light 1s grappling hook not Dying light 2´s. It was perfect

[@Jeptheplay]

@@simonh7954 when you get to the center loop, you have only done 50% of the story... so the game is not even close to the end when you get the charm.

[@vincentproud6589]

Oh, cmon, nerfing Easter egg items in a single player game? Oh, no, we might have fun! What a same.

[@DrunkGnu]

the korek charm changes sucked a little, but other than that- very glad that they are starting to get through the issues that people have been talking about.

[@billysipe5040]

A little I just got that fucking charm and they do this after saying they weren't changing it fuck techland

[@itsneela]

waitwhat did they do? nvm what the fuck

[@Hi-Im-Shade]

It sucks ALOT, they legit said the korek charm wouldn't be changed- Bunch of liars, not to mention the korek charm is my most reliable item EVER. This sucks bro- Hope they decide to revert it back before the First Story DLC. And now thinking about it people arent going to be able to use it due to how much scraps it costs.

[@LaLoK955]

People were complaining about the grappling hook?

[@chaad1073]

They literally just took fun out of the game. The Korek charm allowed you to go on fun slaughtering sprees after you beat the main quest but now you have to grind just to repair your weapon. the grappling is now shitty. No one ever used it the it was properly intended besides the mission on vnc tower. I am very disappointed

[@williamcunninghamiv3298]

When did anyone complain about the grappling hooks or the charm I think we r more worried about fixing the coop play fixing the Easter eggs so everyone can get one instead of having to join people games

[@ZMSKfullpower]

Not sure why they do those nerfs. Is really having fun in singleplayer game that bad ? They should focus on repairing game and adding new things rather than " nerfing " anything.

[@Sapphire_Eye]

Waiting for the day techland adds an input to visually check your biomarker, you know, the one they spent time to animate so it actually ticks down as your immunity goes down, but you can rarely ever actually see the screen of. I really just wanna start a new save and not have my big ass immunity wheel at the top, or rely entirely on sound cues that could be easy to not hear or phase out while focused on doing something else

[@SnivyGAbsol]

I absolutely hate what they’ve done to my beloved Grappling Hook. I recorded a let’s play of this game and for like 7 episodes straight I was gushing over how amazing the grappling hook was. Now it’s just… terrible. It doesn’t help that the first game’s grapple hook is absolutely busted, yet they didn’t touch that one, Yet they felt the need to touch the second game’s version and ruin it. Since I don’t believe they are going to revert it back to its glory state, can someone make a mod so it works the way it did before the update? I would greatly appreciate that.

[@literallyvergil1686]

the first game grappling hook was intended to be busted this wasn't, it wasn't exactly difficult to use and was easy to break challenges

[@SnivyGAbsol]

@@literallyvergil1686 My point still stands that the first game’s grappling hook shouldn’t be better than the second. Intended to be busted or not it’s unfair when something that makes the game better and more fun gets reduced to something minuscule.

[@literallyvergil1686]

@@SnivyGAbsol the second game grapple was intended to have you swing around and keep momentum not climb building these have very different uses and i dont think it made the game fun, a better option would be to allow player to climb the grapple like a rope satisfying both sides

[@SnivyGAbsol]

@@literallyvergil1686 No, a grapple hook's purpose is to climb tall structures that are normally hard to reach. Aided by the fact that the game lets you upgrade it to pull you in the direction you face once you let go. The grapple hook in this game is a rope launcher as stated by Frank. Something that launches a rope to a high surface to climb it. It was used by the nightrunners to attempt to climb the VNC tower. Key word, "CLIMB". Meaning scale buildings. I get that the alternative purpose was to swing around but that's not it's ONLY use. How you don't understand how a grapple hook is meant to be and how you didn't find it fun is beyond me.

[@literallyvergil1686]

@@SnivyGAbsol i think you didn't read half of my comment, i said the original way of spamming the grapple hook to climb wasn't fun so i suggest actually CLIMBING the rope like an actual grappling hook it would be slower but more realistic and less glitchy looking

[@razor6827]

They need to bring in a weapon repair system or revert the charm change or fix loot. I can’t get any good level 9 weapons besides the underwater area

[@somerandomdudeOG]

Mods will come to rescue and revert the grappling and korek nerf, it makes the grappling worthless unless you want the grab enemies thing

[@lm_slayer1]

What, grappling hook is most fun when you're spider manning across the city, spamming it to get up vertically gets old quick tbh

[@nurnur-ek8mf]

@@lm_slayer1 still better to have ability to use it like that than not.

[@lm_slayer1]

@@nurnur-ek8mf ehhh, idk tbh, I did utilise it, but when I limited myself to actually having to use my brain to chain parkour moves, I was having way more fun

[@louiesatterwhite3885]

The grappling hook is meant to maintain momentum and lets you take corners smoothly. I've enjoyed it more than the DL1 hook, since that one interrupts the flow of parkour.

[@nurnur-ek8mf]

@@louiesatterwhite3885 yeah but if you use the one before the patch it could still be used without interrupting the flow.

[@iamspidey5411]

The Charm’s going to be updated further in future patches. So other than that, I have no complaints with anything they updated.

[@missdenim6590]

Why give something and then take it away? If I paid for the game then I should be able to play it like I want to, not be downgraded. Absolutely ridiculous. I've played these games since the first Dead Island but I have no plans to finish this one. Sad

[@reese4077]

After beating the game, broken things like the grapple hook spam was what kept the game fun

[@Keigg]

turns out the whole korek charm nerf was tweaked without tymon knowing so he's gonna make some changes to help with it

[@clopes87]

Source?

[@mariobadia4553]

What about the grappling hook since the majority of people do not like the change

[@Keigg]

@@mariobadia4553 they're not gonna change it back, because it wasn't working as intended in general since release.. they're going with the momentum side of things so you can pull up once and you start to drop. You can still lung forward which is still really fun when fighting etc

[@Keigg]

@@clopes87 Tymon himself on twitter

[@Charming_Charlien]

That grappling hook change broke my heart, it was what allowed me to actually move through some of these buildings with ease. I didn't even know of the charm either, but the fact it was nerfed is a damn shame. I hope they continue to update ^_^

[@johnredacted5141]

Grappling Hook nerf makes sense (although it was super fun!) but NOT the Korek charm! that was so nice! :,(

[@takotako808]

Yep, grapple hook was the only thing that kept me going when it got boring 🤣

[@PANTOMIMUSPRIME]

yeah im prolly gonna quit the game even though I got the deluxe edition lmao the korek charm and grappling hook is what made the game actually fun

[@envoidded7592]

@@PANTOMIMUSPRIME fr i would use it all the time and just swing around when i was bored

[@arcanumelite4853]

actually.. it really doesn't make sense... i mean... your a superhuman with SUPER strength... and you can barely pull yourself up with the grappling hook now... hell aiden should be able to jump to the top of these buildings like he does jumping up the missile silo shaft if you chose that ending... the grapple hook being so good is what made it fun after you got tired of the tedious parkour stuff...

[@spammus1]

So with this update: they nerfed the Korek (the only reliable repair in the game), they nerfed the grappling hook, they took away the respawning drops (the sunken drops were the only way to get high tier gear), they took away the chance of getting easter egg stuff like the broom or the Ka Doom shotgun (understandable, but still annoying) and they made chases more annoying but not harder. Meanwhile most of the game breaking bugs are still in the game, at the very least they fixed some performance issues. Way to go Techland!

[@Jalter-kun]

I think the grapple hook and charm nerf was a stupid thing to. Those two things got me through many tough spots and near deaths. Also R.I.P speed runners.

[@mikeymartinez4809]

The grappling hook is useless I literally never use it to swing around, if it was a big deal they should have changed it in dl1 too

[@Jalter-kun]

@@mikeymartinez4809 they really shouldn't have changed it and the nerf took away the reason why I use the grapple hook in DL2.

[@mikeymartinez4809]

@@Jalter-kun yeah I understand if it was a pvp game but it's literally a story game that people play to enjoy so I don't see the big deal why it has to be nerfed

[@Jalter-kun]

@@mikeymartinez4809 I really hope that they see nerfing the grapple hook and charm was a bad idea and reverse it

[@glassymink230]

Yeah ever since they nerfed the grappling hook and magic broom I haven’t played dying light 2 ever since

[@guitarsandcars2586]

The change to the grapple hook makes no sense, in the first game you could grapple to the roof of most buildings instantly and that was not considered OP but in this one it is? And I don't understand why they don't allow you to repair weapons on the go easily. That was a change that made no sense considering the first game you could repair weapons between three and six times at any point as well and that doesn't make it op because it usually happened during combat and left you open for damage evening it out. Why must we continue to make games harder and stray further from the original? This was my most favorite zombie game but I kind of feel like they're taking a step backwards in it with some of these "nerfs". Now they're not even sure they're adding New game Plus saying they are "seriously thinking about it" when the clear answer is it needs it. If they don't add New game Plus I may not go back to it because I hate restarting a character after hours of grinding to get my main one maxed out. Techland better do the right thing with the game from here on.

[@evanthedabman7537]

Not the grappling hook noooo Edit:not the korek charm wtf why

[@NearOTX]

for real shit blows I was hyped to play after a big update but now i could careless, the grappling hook was so fun being able to move so quickly, like why nerf movement in a parkour game??

[@Vtrezo]

Really loved that grapple hook. It gave so much confidence to just run

[@marstonalex]

Techland officially destroyed the only ways to have fun in the game. That's what i think

[@angelv7318]

Agreed

[@literallyvergil1686]

the only way to have fun was to spam grappling hook and break the game?

[@anotherdaytobetheslayer7091]

@@literallyvergil1686 Grappling hook in the first game was even more op than in the second game, think about it, once you unlock it in the first game, parkour becomes meaningless cause of the grappling hook ability to climb most things. In the second game, the grappling hook is still op but it's now a tool that can mix in with parkour, meaning better versatility and better movement, both combined (parkour and grappling hook) can lead to a great result. Look at some games with grappling such as Apex and Titanfall, the grappling hook in those games created fun movement, tell me? Did they do anything with the grappling hook? Nope, not at all, it was used as intended, to create the most funnest and best movements. Now it ain't it chief, the most fundamental part of DL2 is now ruined, why nerf movement? Fuck the crying DL community, I don't care if it's OP or not, Techland has ruined a fun part of the game but what I can say is: this new update is good (except grappling hook and korek charm, like what the fuck?!).

[@literallyvergil1686]

@@anotherdaytobetheslayer7091 the most fundamental part of the game is parkour, the grappling hook function as intended it still pulls you forward it only stops from spamming it to slowly climb building it use is the same as before which is keeping momentum

[@anotherdaytobetheslayer7091]

@@literallyvergil1686 But of course, it's not just the parkour as the main, mixing in with the grappling hook gave more fun, I can see your point, some people would use it to the point, parkour becomes meaningless again just like in the first game. But being creative with the grappling hook (before the nerf), mixing with parkour is hella fun. For me, I prefer to combine both the parkour and grappling hook, because swinging shit like spiderman is fucking fun and doing some cool movements are what I enjoy a lot. Still, I'm pissed about this nerf, and in my opinion, a nerf to movement in general.

[@arizona7482]

The limit for scrap is not 999 anymore, you can carry more scrap and other resources now. But i dont know how much.

[@embroyonicend648]

I was already done playing dying light 2 after doing both play throughs and getting platinum don’t think I’ll return anytime soon especially with these changes as I loved the grappling hook and the charm definitely don’t agree with that change but happy with the more banshees and charges but I don’t remember what a charger looks like and also it’s not enough for me to get back in the game

[@lazyvoid7107]

Bozo

[@Ainavol_sans]

@@lazyvoid7107 if he's a bozo what does that make you? a lower lifeform? Lol

[@anthonygalya1759]

Love the living hell out of this game but for those of us that are playing on hard scrap isnt easy to get Imao. The whole point of the korek was to keep your badass weapons permanently. Puts a huge damper on things tbh almost makes it not worth palying after the story

[@adamparker3151]

Im gonna dupe a lot of scraps now. Trash update.

[@elb_radbrad781]

Not too happy about the charm and hook considering the charm was a pain for me to get because of it bugging but the other stuff is a win

[@andrewlodge8065]

I've also noticed that the biters have better path finding A.I in this, DL1 when they were on a roof or ledge and noticed you they would just come straight at you (as a mindless infected would) but here they will walk back along a ledge to get to a ramp to walk down to you 🙄 first noticed this in the mission to get the GRE key from Dylan

[@Odd_bolt]

Even pre nerf the grappling hook was a mere shadow of what it once was.

[@generalgungus]

Do you mean what it once was in the first game cause as much as I loved the first game grapple hook i feel like being able to use it like a rope and use it in the parkour is a lot better

[@Odd_bolt]

@@generalgungus yeah the grappling hook in dying light 1 is a gods work compared to dl2 but I don’t have anything against this one and I honestly agree with you 100% lol, it’s so much more satisfying and good for parkour.

[@Odd_bolt]

Like mechanically and just realistically dl2’s is just better and also a lot more fun, but dl1’s grappling hook was by far the best functionally as it was far more efficient

[@generalgungus]

@@Odd_bolt yeah for just trying to get somewhere really fast it's great but things like that in games always makes me so lazy though

[@yeti2468]

Im fine with the grapple hook but the korek charm should remain the same since it is from the dev room and its the only way to full repair weapons

[@HerrJaeger64]

Wow they really managed to screw up their own dev item. Such a shame. Also a moment of silence for speedrunners who put everything into the game.

[@mr.balder3235]

They also changed the roll animation (tap sprint button while you're crouching) it used to scuffed looking rolling animation but now it's a shorter version of dive vault

[@ytb7326]

I hope they add legend levels eventually

[@Woppieman]

You can still go straight up with the grappling hook, use the hook, wall run up and look straight into the sky and use grappling hook again. Rinse and repeat. It’s not infinite but stamina usage is really low and IMO way better than spamming the hook ;-).

[@ColossalKiwi]

Patch notes: store.steampowered.com/news/app/534380/view/3108052301081436540 Big changes! How we feeing? I'm glad they addressed many of the issues we've been complaining about, but they also patched out some really fun stuff.

[@XViper123]

lol they don't even mention they nerfed the fuck out of the Hook and Korek charm. Proving they knew these would be unpopular.

[@mauler16]

They also made it so that airdrops, GRE key accessible bunkers (don’t know what they’re called - the portable cabins on feet) and the loot from the infected nighttime bosses don’t respawn.

[@kiwimarshall3937]

The nerf to the grapple hook is just a bad change imo it was fun to zip around buildings and it didn't even break the flow of the game. I hope they revert the change

[@serolfization]

So we gonna ignore the fact korak charm use to fix 500 and now it only 300. The cost is insane and we get less out of it. Who wanted this?

[@ronnenfelt5438]

I knew Techland will start to improve the game almost instantly. It's the same as it was with the first game. All changes apart from Korek are justified. Even that one's okay, though the price should be reduced imo, OR dismantling mechanic from the first game should return. Or even both. Other than that, I can already see the game will improve from decent to perfect over time. Now, I would really love to see a complete HUD off option and Nightmare difficulty - one of my favorite combinations from the first game. And I can almost guarantee Techland will deliver at some point in the future. Looking at CDPR and EA with their recent failures - Techland have the fastest response time of all important studios

[@michaelyates9991]

I don't think many people remember DL1 too much since inception or were around. Guys and gals, Techland is amazing and they will continue to listen and then some!! Anyone remember 10 in 12? The PTSD from other developers will calm with these guys!

[@SoulReaper666able]

With the new update, i am now relying more on the long range bow/crossbow and its ammo, and less on the melee weapons (which i keep only for close quarters if i fail to finish off some enemies). Changes made to Korek charm sucks big time

[@Ainavol_sans]

Lol imagine making a game thats supposed to be MELEE focused yet everyone uses range cuz of how BAD the melee weapons "were"

[@tswvyee]

They need a dismantle ability so we can gain easier scraps. Finding and buying scraps are stupid in this game unlike the first one.

[@Olmret_]

Easy fix to the grapple hook I havnt checked if it still works tho 1. Grapple 2. Let go 3. Wall run quickly after letting go 4. Grapple again 5. Repeat

[@ColossalKiwi]

I now have a 2nd channel where I'll post news videos like this one in the future: kzbin.info/www/bejne/d4GWlGCJhriWjck

[@greatgameplayswalkthroughs660]

Nerfed to make the game longer ? Quantity over Quality ? What's next - microtransactions ?

[@stevehunt914]

The survivor senses not working, the u.i lag when looking at the map and the dialog speeding past before you can read it are my only gripes with the game. - Remember in part one, where you think you're at the end of the game and it was merely the introduction to 'old town'?,.. i was overwhelmed by how big it was and how much left there was to play. - i was kind of disappointed they didn't do that again in part 2. i know they said part 2 has bigger maps,.. but part one seems MUCH bigger!? i really hope they add on to it like they did with 'the following'. It sounds like i'm not enjoying 'Stay Human' but i'm actually loving it. i know they'll fix everything in time, i trust Techland implicitly there.

[@prod.awwfull]

Techland patch notes be like: Patch 4.1 Fixed bug where people have fun Fixed issue with people enjoying the game

[@Ainavol_sans]

LMAO IM DEAD

[@austonedmonds9706]

Grappling hook in the first game is way more fun, it used to glitch on me and not take any stamina so I could endless use it around the map making for hours of fun good ol times

[@nipzeygypzey653]

Great job taking the fun out of the broken game, techland.

[@PsyGecko]

im glad i see you mention about the howler indicators/icons and the compass still cant be hidden, i really hope they add a choice to remove that as part of the hud or something, it is so immersion breaking all those icons popping at all sides you look at, really really unnecessary to hold our hands like that, please i want to remove that. I also still dont understand why there isn't simply a toggle key shortcut option to hide the entire HUD, i want to remove that compass as well for clean screenshots for example or just chill and appreciate the game without any visual hud clutter. ( yes im aware there is mods for that in case someone points, but the hassle and pain is huge, dont want to restart the game and change files and folders for each time i feel like doing a change in the hud...) That said i feel this patch improves and fixes a lot of things in a good way, grapple hook and korek charm aside...

[@tisbemilesgames9589]

They REALLLLY don't want people to play their game do they

[@TheBronzeGamer14]

I think 200/250 scrap would be a more fair cost for repairing your weapon with the korek charm. Not too little where you’d never have to worry about needing scrap, but not too much like 600 which honestly is an irrational cost to fix a weapon that is only good to kill a couple dozen enemies. At that point it would just make more sense to find a different weapon. Which might be what the devs want, but if they keep the cost to apply at 2/3 of your scrap capacity, they have essentially killed the korek charm.

[@Dmog97]

THEYVE RUINED THE GAME

[@kn0ss348]

The grappling hook was so much fun to use before the nerf so I was sad to see it go

[@manzariat7523]

They said they're gonna adjust the Korek charm but no word on the Grappling Hook. I can't get myself to play this update.

[@hiddendesire3076]

I don’t like the changes, especially since I had to use the the grapple hook pre-nerf to get through a bugged mission.

[@tomelliott565]

I had the common sense to charm up every single weapon I had, before the update. Plus, if your taking the time to search everything, and get scraps, it's not a problem. Also, unmodded high damage weapons will kill anything easily anyway.

[@Nozzinator]

Bigger stacks for stuff like scraps and trophies is what we need. Edit: They actually did increase some materials stacks like scraps of which wasnt mentioned in the video.

[@jeddriggers5852]

There was no reason for them to screw with the Korek charm. If that's the way they want to do things then fine, make scrap easier to get. And don't have us automatically throw a weapon away like it does when it runs out of durability. Let us keep the weapons we like even without durability we can just stash them till we can repair it.

[@VanguardWanderer]

you can now bring/store materials more than 999 so the issues with 999 backpack and storage is secretly patched and they did not put it on the patch notes

[@crayz284]

My game is constantly set on night due to a glitch in their system and i can tell by memory, over a duration of 3hours - including multiple Dark Zones and Kills - you can find poorly 230-300 scraps. Well thank you devs, you might add a weapon wall too, cause my whole endgame gear will be slapped onto that. The priority of patches was clearly on another topic than actual bugs, tho the grappeling hook is understandable.

[@TDogsYard]

Has anyone experienced the two vendors inside the Bazaar stopping the sale of any mats including scrap? This upsets me even more now because you cant even spam farm scrap, only the crasfmaster still sells mats there. They need to drop the repair rate by at the very least half or ima start dupping shit

[@cntex]

Korek Charm is already hard to get and now they made it even harder to use it properly. it's evolving, just backwards. Also They did added more inventory space.

[@blablablanana]

Personally im sad with the grappling hook and korek charm changes. But i do understand why they changed the hook. Well because dl2 is supposed to have parkour gameplay and cheesin it with the grappling hook isnt helping.

[@zeeteajuu]

They should definitely make the amount of scraps you can carry infinite. Since it takes a while to farm them and most of the easter eggs cost a lot of scraps specially the korek charm now.

[@adamparker3151]

Nah 10K sounds good. Or they should just made korek charm 200.

[@yeetyeet9063]

They shouldn’t have changed the charm, The entire dying light community is gonna protest until it’s back to its original

[@jasonluther8932]

999 is a ridiculously low amount of supplies that you can carry a really need to upgrade that big-time they need to focus on that more than anything especially with one repair using the korek costing over half of what you can carry thats ridiculous

[@atomicghoul4747]

I honestly think that the changes to the grappling hook were needed but I think the a korek charm change is bullshit. Dev tools and weapons should be op in my opinion

[@tanjaseidel4096]

You still can climb up every wall. You jjst need wall run. Grapple, wall run a second and aim above, Grapple again. Repeat. No need for long parkour routes.

[@Tristenlane2001]

I would really like to know who complained about the grappling hook, cause I’m going to beat them with a phone book

[@jrose003]

Not sure if anyone already said this.. but they did increase the amount of scrap and other materials that you can carry beyond 999

[@mrman4358]

What they should’ve done was keep the grapple mechanics the same, but make it use more, if not a lot more, stamina. That way we’d still have that super fun mechanic whilst not breaking the game too much. Also, the Korek charms was supposed to be free, hopefully they fix that. The current cost is way to high for the amount of scrap you can hold, if you use the charm you’re very limited to crafting anything else that would be fun. What they could do with it is give the charm itself “charges” or durability so that you can use it as before but only a limited number of times that way we get the best of both worlds.