Colt Walker In .45 Colt, Part 1

[@GunsOfTheWest]

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[@independentthinker8930]

Awesome!!!

[@DavidBragg-ii3ee]

Beautiful!

[@SaddlebagPreacher]

Ole Gus McCrea's hogleg in Lonesome Dove. Hits a bartender with a cartridge conversion Walker. Looks good.

[@donaldlivingston970]

Enjoyed the video. You could definitely see your excitement and hear it in your voice. Happy shooting.

[@waynehendrix4806]

That's a great conversion option. Thanks Dustin.

[@jimh6763]

That is sweet!! Have several Uberti cartridge conversion type revolvers. Always wanted a walker conversation!

[@jsr-uz3oj]

That looks awesome, I am jealous. I love old western guns, have fun with it, I know I would.

[@connormarek1028]

Oh, yeah!!! Can't wait to see this!!!

[@blackpowdershooter44]

Very nice!

[@dianasteward2465]

Beautiful gun,love the conversion guns.

[@paulkopacz5051]

Very nice, I'm sure you are thrilled. Kirst makes very nice stuff. I did an 1860 snubnose and I did the cutting myself. Boy was I nervous but it turned out great.

[@Wildwest89]

I’m less concerned about the cutting and more about the cylinder timing

[@departmentoftruth2855]

@@Wildwest89 Your right man do you have any suggestions on what might improve timing ?

[@paulkopacz5051]

@@Wildwest89 I had no problem with the timing at all. The cylinder and ring were literally a drop in fit. If I didn't want to do the full conversion (No cutting the blast shield) it would have worked just as well but I wanted to do the full conversion and so I did. The cutting was fairly easy and straight forward with a Dremel and the smaller sanding drums, I used three drums to complete the job.

[@feraligatorade99]

my kirst walker conversion is a tiny bit slow; thumbing the cylinder while pulling the hammer back results in the hammer being fully cocked milliseconds before the bolt snicks into the cylinder notch. As long as I bottom out the hammer every time I cock the revolver it stays in time.@@paulkopacz5051

[@dylanschulz2404]

That is pretty slick! Thanks for the video.

[@k.959]

I’m excited for you. That doesn’t Look cursed at all.

[@madrat5176]

Very cool! Although also a big loophole

[@garyeyser3949]

Can’t wait until you get that hoss out to the range!!!

[@jimmysails994]

Wow. Very nice 👍. I can tell you are very excited about it. Thanks for all you do for the community.

[@GunsOfTheWest]

Thanks for watching!

[@CountryCampers]

@@GunsOfTheWest I have a Pietta 1860 Colt Army .44 Cal so I'd like to get the front sight replaced with a higher one so I have better accuracy. What place has what I'm looking for so the gunsmith can do the work, what sight do u recommend thats already manaufactured?

[@selay333]

The timing on this video was funny because I had just talked to a friend about doing this for a 51 navy.

[@ltdc426]

A walker in .45 colt, now that is truly awesome.

[@kerbygator]

And, you don't have to register it. It's nobody's business.

[@greenbroccolistudios1275]

Colt revolver :D

[@ArizonaGhostriders]

Nice altered firearmage!!! I wanna shoot it, now. Love it. Not a bad shirt, either.

[@jeremysiegel10]

thank you for the link(s) and reference to the company, now I want one for my 1858

[@StrengthAndConditioning61]

Got the Howell on a remmy 58. Love it

[@Matzah1982]

Kirst konverters are great on colt style repros when the back of the receiver is modified for the loading gate and firing pin ring. It’s better on them than the Howell conversion cylinders are. I prefer the Howell .45 colt cylinders on Uberti 1858 Remington style .44 caliber repros hence I bought an Uberti 1858 Remington style .44 caliber repro and a Howell fluted .45 colt conversion cylinder for it and both arrived the same day over 2 months ago and I made an unboxing video and posted on my channel and when I shot it for the first time nearly a month ago I made a video of that too and posted it on my channel

[@TheMusketMan98]

That’s too Cool. I can’t wait to see how she shoots brother.👍🏻🫡

[@csorgb05]

I did it myself on 2 of my cap and ball revolvers. Used a dremmel with a sanding drum bit. Took some time but it came out good.

[@erosionhead420]

Beautiful piece 👍🇺🇸 I’m dying to get into black powder.

[@jgallagher3031]

Super cool and very nice workmanship. Beautiful gun!

[@jgallagher3031]

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[@DukeFrazierProductions]

Beautiful. I think its in Haven and Beldens book the show a Dragoon with the multiple firing pin conversion cylinder. That's the only reference to that type on a Colt that I've seen.

[@JohnnyBallou]

Great video, but im happy with my Ruger Old Army ( converted !) My Walkers will remain pristine!

[@enby_kensei]

Have you heard about the ".45-55 Black Powder Magnum" loads that people have been using for these Walker conversions? Wanted to get your thoughts on those and if they would potentially be a good idea for a Kirst Walker like this.

[@garymiller5416]

It uses a s&w 460 cartridge

[@lemmdus2119]

When it comes to firearms you always want to do it right. If it costs more so be it. It’s a safety factor. BTW I believe the conversion cylinders for the Remington and Colts were made more for re-enactments.

[@davidno1minton997]

Cool

[@B.Moore-Ready]

Sweet deal 😁👍 I own a few Pietta's my self.

[@oolooo]

Wish there was more information on the 45-55 Walker

[@bunkstagner298]

Good video Pard, I just got my 1851 Navy back and and left it in .375" bore so it will shoot .38 Colt with the Eras Gone Colt Cartridge Works 124 grain bullet with a whopping 8 grains of FFFg. An outside lubricated just like the original. That way I can shoot percussion or cartridge and that little bullet with that tiny charge hits my steel targets hard.

[@fluxelectron508]

Very well for all result. I'm very happy for your satisfaction . And this " COLT S. WALKER Dad since 1847 for Dragoon and inspiring all the new Colts continuous open bâti. I have the beautiful 1860 Army Union originally réplique black powder . So , I like this quality in this vidéo post You Tube ! 🤠🖐️ Thanks you

[@snappers_antique_firearms]

I dont know if You knew the Remington Style conversions with the firing pin per cylinder. Colt also made the same thing it was just very rare and very few were ever made.. Saying that i still prefer the gate loading style like yours. Also check out the 45-55 walker

[@GunsOfTheWest]

I was hoping you or Duke would chime in because I was sure you guys would know if Colt made any in that other style. As always, thanks for watching!

[@snappers_antique_firearms]

@@GunsOfTheWest hey do they make the conversion cylinder with the engraving on it.

[@JRB781]

I just watched a video in which someone was shooting the .45-55 Walker in a conversion the other day. Do you know if the cartridge is a modern creation or was it actually used in original conversions back in the day? There is not much info/load data out there on the .45-55 Walker. All I know is that the casings can be formed using cut/resized .303 British or .460 S&W cases.

[@snappers_antique_firearms]

@@JRB781 I'm fairly certain it's a new cartridge. I have never seen 45-55 in any book or research I've done on Colts. Never even heard of it till recently. I am fairly certain no Walkers were ever converted to cartridge. I dont believe dragoons could even hold the 45-55 walker. All the dragoon i have seen that were cartridge converted used 44 Henry

[@lawrencehudson9939]

I love the Krists. I have two for my Ruger Old Army pair I use for SASS, and I am saving up for one for my Remington Navy. Yes, I have a Colt too, but it is a Civil War era one and I am not changing it to cartridge.

[@josephpace8816]

Just bought a pair of Walkers, the Lonesome Dove McCrae and Call from Cimarron. I will shoot them but I would like to buy a regular Walker and do what you just did in .45LC. Great Video. Keep up the good work.

[@mikek8089]

I did both, my 1851 & 1860 with Kirst Konverter kits. The timing on the 1860 was fine, but I had to do a little tweeking of the timing on the 1851, only because I wanted to be able to shoot the C&B cylinders in them as well. As far as that little bit of looseness on that recoil shield, that's a good thing, so the cylinder doesn't bind. When I take them to the range, people are quite intrigued when they see me jamming cartridges into what they think is a cap and ball revolver. THEN the questions start lol.

[@dsanchez9703]

Thank you for sharing a cool part of history, love yhe channel brother.

[@GunsOfTheWest]

Thanks for watching!

[@bluescatreimer]

I have the Howell conversion cylinders on my Pietta 1858 Navy and Army with the Howell quick cylinder release. Only thing is you have to remove the loading lever for them to fit on the revolver. I prefer the Kirst and my next one will be a Kirst for my 1860 Army. I will do the same as you and have it professionally installed. I don't have the proper tools to install one. Looking forward to a video of you shooting it.

[@classicgunstoday1972]

When you shoot it I’d be curious to see how many rounds you can get through it as your gunsmith tried to find a balance between functioning conversion and not too much force cone/cylinder clearance for ball and cap

[@cw2a]

Awesome!! ♥️♥️

[@madogllewellyn]

Very nice!!!! I'll have to send my heritage Colt Walker off for that modification!!!! Would be nice to have the variety of choice!

[@dennisatkins9837]

Great video Dustin! Can’t wait to see you shoot it. I’ve had my Walker for 34 years. I probably won’t be doing any conversion on it but yours looks awesome!

[@mr.e.2175]

now that's cool

[@ralphperez4862]

I love it. That is probably the most convenient way to change up a Colt. I can't wait to see it shoot. I put a conversion cylinder on my 1858 Remington Carbine. It was a pain to load, a pain to clean, unlike the handguns which were rather easy. I found that it liked the cowboy loads I made for it and my other 45's of Italian lineage. They shoot really well. Though not a Ruger tightness, they were just fine for what I do. Here's the video I made kzbin.info/www/bejne/gouwZp-Cg6tnotk

[@richdoherty64]

I bought my Walker a couple years ago. But, I never have time to get to the outdoor public range to shoot it. Been thinking of getting a conversion cylinder so I can shoot it at an indoor range.

[@richdoherty64]

Yep, seriously considering getting this done to my Walker.

[@JeffyLube]

Ive been asking Colt to put the Walker back into production (they're a bit unwilling)

[@never2late454]

I'd like to do this to my walker, but have no clue as to what shells it would take, or where to buy them. I know it can't use modern powder. Do you load your own, if so what bullet do you use? What about the bullet lube? This video raises so many questions.

[@PhantomObserver]

I’ll agree it looks pretty good. I’m wondering though: any chance of you going Josey Wales and getting a second Walker replica (for alternative mods, if nothing else)?

[@GunsOfTheWest]

I actually am considering it. Thanks for watching!

[@ArgoPower]

In my country is not possible to change the cylinder for use metal cartridges, because it change category of the gun from C (free to buy and use for +18) to B (it needs permissions , a lot of burocracy etc). But of course , it's more safe and simply to use metal cartridges instead of cap and ball !!

[@Ace_of_Spades-oe2yv]

Hey Dustin, have you heard of the 45-55 Walker round? (Also known as the .45 Black Powder Magnum.) it’s a S&W .460 unmodified, 55-60 grains of Black Powder and a 250 grain bullet.

[@GunsOfTheWest]

I’ve heard of it, but never tried it.

[@Ace_of_Spades-oe2yv]

@@GunsOfTheWest I believe the cambers need to be reamed to accept the larger round. But the bullet sits closer to the forcing cone allowing for better performance. Just was curious because I recently discovered it and there’s little information on it as it was developed in 2010 apparently.

[@rojellyocordova9729]

Sorta off topic but I’ve always seen that historically the dragoon bullet was shot out of the 1860 army. With a less powder charge. I haven’t seen the one cover that or attempt to shoot them. Could be a good video.

[@erikgreen1990]

Lmao answered my question with “that has to do with the laws

[@blueduck9409]

Nice pistol. I wonder how much all that conversion and kit cost.

[@GunsOfTheWest]

I put a link to their website in the description. Thanks for watching!

[@erikgreen1990]

That gun is absolutely beautiful how can I get one?

[@dorisjohnson8857]

Don't think I can hold my breath much longer When's part 2 coming out?😊 Doris J

[@clarkbono189]

Love my new walker have NOT fired it yet. that being said a little background. my wife, who is a direct descendant of Jim Bowie and an 8th gwener4ation Texan. when I got that thing I handed it to her without indicating its weight an d just letting go as she grabbed the grip I let go. she nearly dropped her SH&t. called me a "jerk"

[@CountryCampers]

@Guns Of The West I have a Pietta 1860 Colt Army .44 Cal so I'd like to get the front sight replaced with a higher one so I have better accuracy. What place has what I'm looking for so the gunsmith can do the work, what sight do u recommend thats already manaufactured?

[@jeffreysnethen9586]

I do a lot of my own work but over the years have sent several revolvers to Kirst & they do a great job, now the only ones I would even consider touching my guns, made the mistake of sending one to Howells a few years ago, it was brand new came back with the bluing scratched up, grips damaged & the conversion didn't work right. Had them pay to ship it back, they corrected the problem but did nothing about the damage from them, so I only recommend Kirst!!!

[@richdoherty64]

Does the loading lever fall when shooting 45colt ?

[@alanhope1190]

Hey Pard, is that a 5 shot or a 6 shot? And do they make one for Dragoons?

[@GunsOfTheWest]

Six shots. I believe they do have one for the Dragoon models as well. Thanks for watching!

[@yearight1205]

I picked up a used Armi San Marco Dragoon 2nd edition. Realized that the wedge screw was stripped and completely bad. We had to remove it. I went to find a replacement online, but VTI Gun Parts didn't have any. My understanding is the Armi San Marco Walker and all Dragoons share the same wedge screw. Any chance you'd know how I could find one? I know there are several guns on Deer Creek Products that you can purchase Wedge Screws from cheap, just not the Walker or Dragoons. I'd appreciate any info you could provide. Thanks in advance.

[@thomasmanson1119]

That’s really nice Dustin, so what was the cost breakdown? When I looked at the Kirst webpage the numbers were really confusing (although I do think I recall seeing $125 for their gunsmith’s services).

[@iceroadtrucker2008]

$125 is for the installation of the Konverter. The $240? includes installation and a trigger job. And they do a great trigger job!

[@seanfoltz7645]

Neat, although you aren't kidding as the conversion kit and installation costs almost as much as the gun.

[@michaelwagner4451]

What ist about the Barrel? It is chamberd in 44cal. Ist this not a Problem?

[@GunsOfTheWest]

Though they’re called .44’s, they’re actually .45’s. A Walker is generally loaded with a .451-.454 diameter ball. The .45 Colt bullet is .452 diameter.

[@jasonburesh2720]

How do you eject the spent brass from the cylinder without an ejector rod?

[@deluth4638]

Manually poke them out with a small rod or dowel you carry in a pocket or something.

[@Lefteye1873]

Dustin, have you ever done or considered trying cowboy action shooting competitions, just for fun?

[@GunsOfTheWest]

I think it would be a lot of fun, but I just don’t have time for it.

[@Lefteye1873]

@@GunsOfTheWest You should try to make it to a shoot with the Hobble Creek Wranglers next year. We will let you shoot some stages with our gear, it’s a common welcome procedure for new spectators. 🤠

[@kluper1157]

how much to do the conversion?

[@garymiller5416]

$400 for the conversion cylinder and another $600 plus shipping for the work.

[@chaecoco2]

How did you remove the bluing on the cylinder?

[@GunsOfTheWest]

I just soaked it in distilled vinegar for about 30 minutes and the polished it with Flitz polish until it was as shiny as I wanted it.

[@GeorgiaRidgerunner]

Hey dustin do you know of any scope mounts for a traditions kentucky rifle I want to mount a modern scope on the rifle

[@cooperdavis9663]

No ejector rod?

[@GunsOfTheWest]

No, but Kirst does offer them for some, if not all, of their cylinders.

[@Slyassassin34]

Do you need to go through an FFL for this at all ?

[@GunsOfTheWest]

No. As long as the gun does not have the cylinder installed, there’s no requirement to use a FFL.

[@johnanderson6566]

Wait how come you needed to adjust to make it 45 colt ? All I needed was the conversion cylinder and swap it out. Is it a original?

[@GunsOfTheWest]

This cylinder uses a loading gate, so it can be loaded on the gun. The frame needed to be altered to accommodate that.

[@WasatchGarandMan]

I got a Walker recently and have been wanting to get it converted. Dont understand why Kurst doesnt have an ejector rod kit as well. Sorta strange

[@GunsOfTheWest]

Did you grab that used one in Provo?

[@WasatchGarandMan]

@@GunsOfTheWest Sure did! Been after a Walker for a while to be a link in a chain. But Ive always liked Cartridge conversion six guns and a walker has some umpf to it. Just dont know if I can justify all that money for conversion work for it to be my ONLY gun in .45 Colt.

[@patgray5402]

So since this pistol is made from modern materials and is so beefy, could this thing take hotter .45 colt loads?

[@GunsOfTheWest]

It’s not recommended.

[@patgray5402]

@@GunsOfTheWest Thanks

[@jamiehetfield]

do they make those for Ruger old army

[@ollikoskiniemi6221]

Is the barrel smoothbore or rifled?

[@GunsOfTheWest]

It’s rifled.

[@bryanhaney3582]

How long did it take to get back?

[@gagemull6197]

I have a question. How would you remove the cartridges out of the cylinder?

[@deluth4638]

You carry a small rod or dowel with you to eject them manually.

[@madmechanic7976]

I love my walker I just wish it would shoot every time I pull the trigger. Kinda scary 😆 🤣

[@karlhoss6840]

It's honestly easier to just shoot it as a percussion revolver

[@jeffryrichardson9105]

Awesome!👍🏽😀❤️🇺🇸yay

[@MHSMokeEater]

Can this be done to a 1851 Colt Navy?

[@GunsOfTheWest]

Yes. They have one in .38 special for the .36 caliber Navy revolvers.

[@MHSMokeEater]

@@GunsOfTheWest nice even better thanks.

[@edmarmohr3611]

Que lindo,👏👏👍👍😄😄🇧🇷🇧🇷

[@LukeCarpenter-xy9xf]

You have to register it as a moderns hand gun than or no

[@GunsOfTheWest]

Where I live, no guns have to be registered.

[@LukeCarpenter-xy9xf]

Oh

[@johnmcdonald587]

Is that a Gary Barnes installation? Looks like Gary's work.

[@GunsOfTheWest]

It’s not.

[@Andrzej-uf2zm]

Beautiful. 🤠👍 However... all the charm is spoiled by the falling collarbone rod. You'll be going to Mars soon - do something about it for good, Americans 🔫

[@versal339]

Dude you could have easily done that yourself.

[@mikepoteet1443]

I'll never convert mine. Midway has walkers on sale right now (10/31/22) for around $349. I paid $507 for mine 3 months ago from Taylor and co.!