Coltrane Changes outside of Jazz?

[@irresponsibledad]

Ravel was the original jazzposter

[@demian04_rta]

And Stravinsky too

[@slurky3992]

bach

[@zon6158]

0:10 you can’t escape from the lick also in the intro

[@tweer64]

Hearing Giant Steps in Gaspard de la Nuit, is like hearing the Lick in the Firebird.

[@csfarnsworth14]

I CACKLED when you played the Ravel. It is simultaneously beautiful and EXTREMELY CURSED. Bravo

[@halcyonacoustic7366]

The altered dominants are tasty. 😋

[@radu6772]

My fav part in ondine, ravel music has so much flavor

[@florencelingaynemusic]

Of course it’d be Ravel to do something that jazzy 😂

[@HGraabæk]

Just started watching and im just waiting to hear her mention how Coltrane stole the Coltrane changes from ravel

[@thecactus7950]

@@HGraabæk Noone stole anything from anyone. music is music. if someone having done something before you means its stealing, every musician is a thief, and only made maybe 1% of their own music if even that, most probably never made something original.

[@HGraabæk]

@@thecactus7950 Well it was just a joke. It’s not like theres anything wrong with being inspired in your musical writing. One of my favorite composers Sergei Bortkiewicz uses a specific pattern, which he definitely got from Rachmaninoff’s second concerto. Yet hus use of this is quite beautiful and unique.

[@rokronroff]

Hearing Jazz-era Scatman John in this video was a blessing.

[@theophileo]

Love the vox like analysis paired with the old internet vibe of small channels

[@slybear525]

Coltrane picked up on the three tonic system when studying symmetrical scales and progressions found in Nicolas Slonimski's Thesaurus of Scales and Melodic Patterns. He was simply looking for new ways to express what he was feeling. He never claimed to have invented the system and probably would have felt funny if he knew that one day the system would be called Coltrane Changes. Still, it is without a doubt that it is his music that bought this system to world wide recognition and Giant Steps and Coltrane are what people think of when this sound and system come to mind. Coltrane demonstrated that these changes could substitute for and even overlap the tradition iV V I and ii V I progressions as he demonstrated in his modal and avant-garde compositions which followed Giant Steps. It is here were Coltrane created previously unheard of musical possibilities.

[@b.braveproductions323]

Bo En’s 2013 album Pale Machine (the one that My Time is from) uses the Coltrane changes as it’s main motif, starting with it in the intro, and all culminating in My Time at the end

[@musicmaker2645]

I appreciate the way you said the words coltrane changes and jazz and twelve notes and circle of fifths and proximity

[@Emiliasooo]

Wuw, I always knew it. Ravel was the most important precursor for Jazz. Ravel is the GOAT in all genres!

[@user-ig7nq7pc7k]

Most jazz musicians know about how Trane was infatuated with the bridge of "Have you Met Miss Jones" and went through a period of shedding it constantly. Also, 2300 Skidoo by Herbie Nichols also touches on this type of movement - before Giant Steps.

[@Salune]

2:50 it’s weird, I was recently looking at Coltrane changes on a midi string patch and thought “wow that really reminds me of bo en. Now I’ve randomly clicked on this video and here it is. Funny.

[@frug4681]

pale machine jumpscare! the whole album is filled with those chords in my time, its what got me into jazz!

[@nickcox7244]

I sorta intuitively knew what Coltrane Changes were, but this was a phenomenal explanation of it that made my knowledge more explicit. So thank you!

[@th.nd.r]

Muse fan here, my day was made!

[@iamthemoneyj]

3:39 the lick! (Almost)

[@markehlpetersen1040]

1:47

[@bradleybaas4862]

great video! i didn’t realize the B section of Have You Met Miss Jones was on coltrane changes until i took a closer listen to what was going on. It’s really interesting to see everywhere else the changes are used as well.

[@mattkane357]

Doing omori music made me very happy!

[@orinking8064]

i fucking love My Time and the album it comes from, Pale Machine. thanks for the video!!

[@MeI-ct4dv]

Why does this not have more views >:(

[@eelamite]

you are a literal godsend for introducing us to My time and Revel (?)'s tune predating giant steps! also rip dilla

[@AsrielKujo]

i actually did a full ravel section into giant steps on my channel, and it works so well!

[@Beatboxmarimba]

That was pretty neat! The video was very clear, informative, and well laid out Thanks for the explanation at the beginning. I had no idea what Coltrane Changes were, but now I'm curious and inspired Looking forward to future videos! (Whether they be songs or music theory. Love your work!)

[@theophileo]

Great video love the format, now I absolutely want to see the next one

[@qazwsxqwaszxzaqxswxz]

Great start with the new format! There's lots of space in the youtube music analysis scene and it's just a matter of time when you'll be one of the big ones (if that's what you want anyway). The content is already there, just a bit of finetuning will work wonders. A bit slower speech tempo might do good. My personal advice is to embrace your humour even more. The reason I'm subbed is the truly personal Andrew Huang -collab video where you play the quirkiest melody known to man with absolutely no emotion on your face. But no need to try any tricks :) just do you, and by experience you'll see what works well and and what not. The algorithm is a tough opponent, don't give up if it fights back in the beginning. Good luck on your path!

[@CadenceHira]

thanks for the advice and kind words! will def consider everything (especially the talking slower bit lol i need to work on that lmao)

[@Pkmn20]

Cadence Hira i love this vid hahah - just chiming in to say that i enjoy the fast speech tempo! although i guess some people may have trouble with it... would captions be helpful?

[@CadenceHira]

@@Pkmn20 thanks! i actually checked a few of the videos and youtube's auto-generated captions look pretty spot on so far

[@arunthebuffoon4554]

​@@CadenceHira I wouldn't worry about pace too much, since other educational KZbinrs speak at a similar pace Your narration reminds me a bit of Jessica Oreck on Ted Ed! Another tip would be to focus on your overall brand: thumbnails, fonts and video titles. Good examples of thumbnails would be Adam Neely, Tantacrul, etc.

[@arunthebuffoon4554]

@@CadenceHira For fun, I shittily reproduced one of your thumbnails. photos.app.goo.gl/N4oUKLtGiUfuXTMZ7

[@PointLobo]

Glad you mentioned Let's Ride! btw that Q-Tip beat was produced by J Dilla, or as he was known back then, Jay Dee. When that song first came out it blew my mind and was my first introduction to Dilla

[@stapler942]

Coltrane changes is a speedrun of a 3-tonic system ☺️

[@Jack-ts1sv]

This just came up in my recommended and it is AWESOME!

[@GuGus963]

Just watched this video, it's great! Your channel truly deserves hundred thousand of subs, Adam Neely and Twelvetone-like quality right there ! Subscribed!

[@Noke703]

Great video. It's clear, easy to follow, and incredibly high quality.

[@openexitTV]

was that a friggin upbeat cover of sorrow & sadness at the end, I need it so badly lmao

[@rainbowbloom575]

Yes !! I knew my time sounded like giant steps but I wasnt sure. Nice video !!

[@blyg9992]

I literally got into the habit of humming a modified version of the giant steps melody over the chorus section of my time

[@catsinwonderland7473]

@@blyg9992 i'm a huge fan of my time and pale machine as a whole, I would hum the chorus as well sometimes and make it sound more jazzy. a while back, I had no idea about giant steps, but my english teacher at the time was a huge fan of jazz, he even had a john coltrane poster. One day I walked into class, and immediately thought "something sounds familiar." he was playing giant steps on his speaker. I actually thought I was having a stroke or something, it sounded really similar to the jazzy versions of my time i'd imagine in my head. I had no idea giant steps was the predecessor to my time. thats how i found out, blew my mind to bits!! I learned that recycling is great for the environment, and music

[@pau9553]

I don't know why you don't have millions of views

[@memeworksanimations2689]

I was so happy when you mentioned let’s ride because I love that song and q tip and j dilla

[@omnitone]

i knew that knights of cydonia had cool key changes but i didn't know it was like this :0

[@victormontielpiano]

That Ravel fragment is by the way so freaking hard to play haha

[@dliessmgg]

Got this as a random youtube recommendation. Me likey.

[@kaiserkueche]

There is also "Giant steps to the castle" from Shreck is Love, that has a Coltrane change, as the title with "giant steps" indicates it

[@CadenceHira]

actually fire lmao

[@RaptorT1V]

I have never yet encountered such a harmonic system in music. Maybe I just haven't noticed it, but.... it's freacking genius: a system consisting of 3 TONICs that are symmetrically arranged relative to each other in a circle of fifths! That is, roughly speaking, we are dealing with an augmented triad (if these tonics are put together in a triad, just to remember). And, to everyone's surprise, this video did not do without the genius Ravel, who invented all this a long time ago)))

[@joeyshuster8569]

This channel is what i needed. big ups to the yt algorithm!!

[@speedyperalta2833]

Nice

[@LucasBere]

nice

[@ALF8892]

Ravel is such a genius, mere mortals like us will never understand what he was about.

[@ifeelverygood]

I wouldn’t be surprised if Coltrane was inspired by Ravel. Quincy talks a lot about how the jazz cats of that era were erudite students of classical composers and how Coltrane had some famous composer’s book whose name escapes me always under his arm.

[@milkwater1204]

Such very very novel examples here, I love it

[@99temporal]

That sad Naruto song in samba version at the end was awesome

[@Cdsv95]

Love your work!

[@EthanDyTioco]

_why have i only come across this now?_ better nate than lever. thanks for making music theory accessible!

[@vinyabhuvan5639]

wow this is probably the most enlightening video i have ever watched. how utterly cerebral!

[@dudeman5303]

God Q tip is so damn great.

[@JasminosMicinos]

I enjoy your explanation! Looking forward for another quality content

[@jeromemeltzermusic1493]

Great video and fascinating with the Ravel.

[@joshcharlat850]

Thank you. Nicely done. Good pacing on your delivery.

[@squonck]

Wow, just found you and your channel is everything I want to be lol. Jokes aside really great stuff, loved the vid!!!!!! Your other stuff looks right up my alley, can't believe you don't have more attention by now

[@myautuu]

This is very informative and interesting! I hope your channel become famous soon!

[@dylansloth]

such a cool video, thank you for making it!

[@sethleejazz]

0:12 de lick

[@Sedyon]

Good video, I finally understood what the Coltrane changes were all about 😂😅

[@Therkanova]

very nice! you deserve much more views imho

[@Tomyren]

Incredible video

[@not_emerald]

This is beautiful.

[@papanimes]

Of course my favourite moment drom Ondine is a Coltrane Matrix! i never noticed because i am so used to it being major

[@tristanpaxton51]

Great video!! I can't believe I'm lucky enough to find you when you're only 1k subs. It's gonna be 1M before you know it! I love the cross genre, harmonic analysis vibe. Keep it up! Thank you

[@ColtraneTaylor]

Hello, white hipster.

[@eelamite]

subbed! 1.8k? underrated for sure.

[@Likes_Trains]

omori jumpscare

[@darthaderbo]

Game changing:)

[@tsvtsvtsv]

aw i love bo en

[@camsand6109]

Three tonic system probably requires you tonicize the target chords with a cadential relationship. So secondary dominants or something akin to that is also part of the explanation I think.

[@MikeChimeri]

On Rhodes, "Knights of Cydonia" sounds like a Vince Guaraldi cue for a Peanuts TV special.

[@CadenceHira]

lol

[@june_birnie]

Hey this rules thanks for making it!

[@leonardohernangarciafuenza9214]

Great video! And for extra exemples maybe "Canned Heat" from Jamiroquai?

[@aug3842]

Great video!

[@CadenceHira]

thank you sangwoo killing stalking 👀

[@chantolove]

MY TIME HAS THE FUCKING COLTRANE CHANGES?!

[@cindylatin4723]

Awesome!

[@jossua7524]

Waw that's great !

[@ezequielgerstelbodoha9492]

This was fantastic. I just found it a little bit confusing each time a flat dominant resolves to a sharp chord, specially when it's not needed, but I guess it's just some transcriber mistake

[@EllieMcEla]

Wuthering Heights by Kate Bush also has elements og coltrane changes!

[@tabor503]

why do the Japanese play piano like that and why is it so good.

[@WollSockenTraeger]

thanks!

[@ColtraneTaylor]

I need to make changes.

[@catsinwonderland7473]

I'm new to this music theory stuff (like very new, I can only tell you what flats and sharps are, or guitar anatomy) but can someone explain why Coltrane changes sound so goddamn nice

[@alexsimper4153]

GASPARD DE LA NUIT MENTIONED

[@ДмитрийБаженов-ш6т]

4:13 sounds like Alice’s theme from Soviet movie “Guestess from the Future”

[@guitar9310]

Dope vid!!!

[@thenewninja4726]

havent watched yet but i am subbing

[@thenewninja4726]

finished the video, still subbed, and there is a q tip song on my playlist now

[@raymondraymondchen]

great vid

[@Senchi3]

fuck yeah bo en!!!!!!!!!!!

[@elementallobsterx]

Bo En flat out copied giant steps down to the last chord in My Time...

[@catsinwonderland7473]

He took Giant Steps and turned it into a Kawaii Future Bass song about insomnia. I love him for that. Recycling music and creatively turning it into something else new is always going to be worth it, in my opinion.

[@frug4681]

“copied” is a bit of a stretch but yea i see where ur coming from

[@elementallobsterx]

@@frug4681 same chords bro, not the rest of the song.

[@frug4681]

@@elementallobsterx bro it’s not the exact same chords in the order, he definitely took inspiration from it because he studied it since primary school but ur acting like he just put the full song as the main motif of the album

[@elementallobsterx]

@@frug4681 who said album? The best part of the song is a complete relative cycle of GS.

[@Rukkisman]

3:39 found the lick

[@rondorondo557]

What is Coltrane Changes if not Axis System persevering?

[@dChocoa]

gud sheet

[@JohnPaulBuce]

sure

[@ГлебХорда]

nice

[@zachavecunh]

J'avais pas compris Gaspard de la nuit...

[@ineedselfcntrl]

Great analysis, but I really have to know where that intro song is from?

[@CadenceHira]

I wrote it specifically for the video lol

[@mymo_in_Bb]

Omori 💔

[@apia46]

Is there a full version of your outro track anywhere?

[@liborsima3429]

Richard Strauss "Der Rosenkavalier", Walzerfolge 1, from bar 194 (especially from bar 211) kzbin.info/www/bejne/pKDPpIZ-q6droZI (from 6'09'' & 6'37'')

[@drew8888]

Whose the alto player in the background music I think the tune is have you met Ms jones but I’m not sure the recording

[@drew8888]

I think it might be Kenny garret

[@Tabu11211]

Lmao you already had ravel in the video xD my bad