Come Hang with Malice #4: Arthur Herman

[@rottdogg8926]

So convincing I ordered the book before the show ended. I now will read it immediately following the show.

[@johnnycomelately9400]

@joseph deutsch the chapters are all 20-25 pages at most and are fairly stand alone. Give it a try if you haven't already, you can work through it.

[@theQiwiMan]

Wow Ricky Gervais is turning into quite the Silver Fox!

[@vincentmaddogcollsignalgan3718]

Watching this for the 3rd time. I really enjoy watching the two of you talking to each other.

[@tophan5146]

Is that really you, Albert?

[@matthewsnyder674]

Love Herman. Whenever there's something discouraging going on in America, we're serenaded with the "This could be solved with more education." Which is usually codespeak for "We need better indoctrination to my way of thinking." A simple sense of history would often suffice. And it is discouraging to see the way those who've gone to the best universities apply their knowledge so woefully. What's terrifying is the way they weaponize a careful interpretation to suit a partisan agenda. There is so much they are aware of that they simply dismiss because it would paint the picture more grey, instead of straight up black and white. (Oh. Just realized that's quite the pun, given recent events.)

[@mrenovatio3739]

1:03:47 Could be speaking about Japan as well. Strong culture.

[@corbinmarkey466]

I'm a big film guy, and the way Arthur describes Aquinad is the way I would describe Ingmar Bergman.

[@poiluparadis]

This was delightful. Thank you Michael.

[@johnmadany9829]

I have almost finished the book. It is excellent. Glad I had a good background in both Plato and Aristotle so I could appreciate the narrative.

[@613karen]

So proud of my cousin - sorry. Just had to say it! But he’s really something....

[@sgeorge3167]

great podcast...he is always a fascinating guest.

[@VangelVe]

Great interview. Awesome book.

[@benjaminnadelstein5437]

Awesome book!! So happy i get to watch a Malice/Herman interview

[@TreeCurtis84]

Ordered!

[@youcanknowtruth-lorityson6215]

The great gift of Augustine is that he taught that God meant us to be happy and that our only happiness can be found in him. You should read the dialogue he had with his mother, monica. It's all about how seeing God face to face is our greatest happiness. And in his autobiography, Augustine says "You have made us for yourself oh God, and our hearts are restless until they find their rest in you." Essentially, we have a god-shaped hole inside of us that is like a vacuum that only God can fill.

[@mykillmielia5640]

1:01:00 Michael has fun

[@crisjr6478]

You are just amazing MM. The real slim shady.

[@josephstanik1555]

Great conversation. I couldn't put down the MacArthur bio. Thanks!!!

[@rottdogg8926]

Hahaha! 29:17 Are we all Michael-Vilians? It does have a nice ring to it. Sure beats Dear Readers.

[@athenassigil5820]

This was excellent, I've watched both this video and read/listened to the book several times and yeah....incredible thoughts on thinking. It's weird how the ancients still resonates to this very day. Both Plato and Aristotle still matter, whether most of us know it or not.

[@robertagajeenian7222]

"It's not the decline of the world; it's the decline of you." To steal a quote.

[@vikidprinciples]

Super interview

[@MrStognabologna]

Amazing book!!!!

[@YoungJacob]

Wonderful conversation. What’s name of the book?

[@caleschmidt]

The Cave and The Light

[@flaminghulaballoo]

Some people find the light in the darkness; some people find the darkness in the light. Some people find the wisdom, however momentary, to realize them both at the same time.

[@Ishmaster2020]

Bout to get back to reading philosophy, starting with this dude

[@s0lid_sno0ks]

Read Leonard Peikoff

[@silphy2677]

is Michael reffering to Sumner's essay "Sociology" (1881)? About 27. minute

[@georgea44]

Mussolini and Obama comparison...thank you Michael you made my day.

[@norrell35]

What's the book? It was cut off at the beginning.

[@rainerbogle1958]

This is really great, I will definitely get the book, as I need some explanations for the layperson that I can trust. And I generally trust this because if it is okay for Michael Malice then it must be good. I jusy wish the audio was better because it takes alot of my brainpower to just listen and parsing the words and the subject is already difficult enough to require my full attention.

[@mattmullenix]

You gotta get a better setup Mike. The audio is deuceworthy.

[@Marksman2oo7]

Because the author is not using headphones.

[@gregorywade4773]

Pay more

[@TheFeatInk]

Malice can tell mike when he sees him

[@Dude0000]

Jackson Pollock was a genius. His work is fantastic. Does that make me a pleb?

[@Var_ar_Vargen]

31:31 Eric Flint, who's politics are considerably left-leaning, pointed out how much of a jerk Galileo was in The Galileo Affair, part of his 1632 series. Apparently the dude was being sued by other Church-funded scientists for plagiarism, and he publushed some pamphlets depicting pope Urban, one of his chief defenders, as a simpleton.

[@AtaraxiaaixaratA]

Michael, you need to have your guests use a headset from now on. I REALLY want to watch this...but... the echoes and horrible mic on Arthur's side are intolerable.

[@tophan5146]

It’s bad at times but most of the time it was acceptable to me, and I am picky when it comes to audio quality.

[@badm0t0rf1nger]

If only he would've popped a pair of headphones in so this were listenable, I'd have listened to this with great interest. :(

[@MrSvlad]

The audio inproves marginally after about fifteen minutes.

[@Hashishin13]

I can understand it fine, maybe its on your end somehow?

[@thesameinitials5655]

It's not the best, but you can make out what they're sayibg

[@siobhanmckenna6549]

Wanted to listen audio is unbearable

[@JoeDaeHimself]

I would have liked to listen what Very Terrific Historian Tom Woods would have said about Galileo's trial. His version was a bit differente

[@Dude0000]

So, Plato is the basis of the general left and Aristotle the right, but both are the basis of western philosophy on which the West was built on and won.

[@pn5721]

Putting down Strauss cuz he "taught" that Machiavelli was a teacher of evil? Strauss only stated that that was what was COMMONHLY thought of Machiavelli. See bottom para where Strauss praises M. "Machiavelli’s teaching was graceful, subtle, and colorful...." This is my fav Strauss quote. Leo Strauss, 1962: While the new political science [which teaches the young to take opinion polls instead of teaching the ancients - PN] becomes ever less able to see democracy or to hold a mirror to democracy, it ever more reflects the most dangerous proclivities of democracy. It even strengthens those proclivities. By teaching in effect the equality of literally all desires, it teaches in effect that there is nothing of which a man ought to be ashamed; by destroying the possibility of self-contempt, it destroys with the best of intentions the possibility of self-respect. By teaching the equality of all values, by denying that there are things which are intrinsically high and others which are intrinsically low, as well as by denying that there is an essential difference between men and brutes, it unwittingly contributes to the victory of the gutter. * * * Only a great fool would call the new political science diabolic: it has no attributes peculiar to fallen angels. It is not even Machiavellian, for Machiavelli’s teaching was graceful, subtle, and colorful. Nor is it Neronian. Nevertheless one may say of it that it fiddles while Rome burns. It is excused by two facts: it does not know that it fiddles, and it does not know that Rome burns. From "An Epilogue," Leo Strauss’s contribution to “Essays on the Scientific Study of Politics,” ed. Herbert J. Storing, Holt Rinehart and Winston, 1962. Reprinted in “Liberalism Ancient and Modern.”

[@juggy-ik7qy]

Am I the only one that had the Python Philosopher song in the back of their head this podcast?

[@s0lid_sno0ks]

Why don't boomers get headphones?