Can we stop pretending this Moria is a child. She's lived like 9 lives at this point one went on for hundreds of years.
@felixlopez79089 ай бұрын
I agree thats a grown woman who’s been alive for yeeeeeears!!!
@Scrappy_ill_fold_ya_Doo9 ай бұрын
Of course she knows that, she's manipulating Xavier so she could live.
@PeanutButter462139 ай бұрын
She’s about 1500 years old by this point.
@felixlopez79089 ай бұрын
@@PeanutButter46213FR! 😂
@MatthewLoh-ru1mw9 ай бұрын
No, she is still A child in this point in time, so killing or depowering her at this point in her life is still WRONG
@aceyfb8 ай бұрын
Since a kid, I’ve usually been on the “Xavier is more evil than OG Magneto” train, but this the first time I seen him trying to do something fucked up & was on his side. til he shot Rachel lmao.
@i.n.o.productionscompany96999 ай бұрын
This is so convoluted but somehow entertaining. It's plans inside of plans inside of plans inside of plans 🤣 😂
@sirellyn9 ай бұрын
They've been doing character assassination on Xavier since the 80s. Now it's just on the eco terrorist killers are heroes level.
@johncrichton88769 ай бұрын
This still feels like Moira charachter assassination. I still feel like her heel turn wasn't something editorial asked Hickman to do before he left. Tgat and everybody being sinister makes this feel rushed. Like GOT final season rush.
@Killgore-ip2yq9 ай бұрын
I genuinely can't say what Hickman plans were for Moria, but I got the impression that her intentions were definitely not this sinister.
@joeparrigen49829 ай бұрын
The whole Krakoan era wouldn't have worked without character assination
@MatthewLoh-ru1mw9 ай бұрын
Correct, this was Editorial meddling once Hickman left
@xspence24049 ай бұрын
im gonna have to watch that a few more times.
@kevinharnoldcanchila12209 ай бұрын
Igual yo.
@seanrichardgreen9 ай бұрын
me three
@drd31849 ай бұрын
You can watch it as many times as you like but none of it makes any sense and is disrespectful to the history and legacy of these characters.
@ContagiousSponge9 ай бұрын
I can not be the only one that actually thought Xavier was gonna do it, right?
@joeypadilla97289 ай бұрын
You have no idea how much I wanted him to
@robertmiddleton61129 ай бұрын
Knowing him, he probably did it and then replaced the readers' thoughts after.
@justinfjay96119 ай бұрын
I was hoping
@MatthewLoh-ru1mw9 ай бұрын
Me too, I thought Xavier would actually go through with it, but ultimately didn't!
@MatthewLoh-ru1mw9 ай бұрын
@@robertmiddleton6112nah, this is just a comic book. He cannot hurt you😅
@drd31849 ай бұрын
The X-Men feel more like a weird ass Midsommer cult than X-Men. Honestly the vibe in a lot of these X-Men books feels demonic.
@wakamoon19109 ай бұрын
well we can't be totally sure if xavier actually still has a sinister inside him and this was always the plan rather than a change of heart. Id say xavier allowing rasputin to kill the doug sinister was suspicious since you'd think he'd still be important and useful for them to navigate around at least.
@dangelotaylor21499 ай бұрын
Out with a bang, I see what u did there
@smithw10839 ай бұрын
Sinister wins again and again They were right moira is selfish 🤦🏾♂️ but Charles killing Rachel will resurrect the phoenix 👌🏾👌🏾👌🏾
@kevinharnoldcanchila12209 ай бұрын
Tiene sentido eso que dices brother, matando a Rachel y seguro también haciendo que hope se sacrifique
@markeviouslittle25809 ай бұрын
So how strong y’all think jean gonna be when she comes back
@MatthewLoh-ru1mw9 ай бұрын
@@markeviouslittle2580very strong, presumably, going by the cover of Rise of POX #5
@MatthewLoh-ru1mw9 ай бұрын
@@kevinharnoldcanchila1220Rachel is NOT dead!! Just depowered like Storm and Moira was
@smithw10839 ай бұрын
@@MatthewLoh-ru1mware you reading the right comics storm isn’t depowered she is in x-men 97 on Disney plus
@rjhemedes9 ай бұрын
I doubt rachel will stay dead for long. Phoenix hosts never stay dead for long. They are just reborn again at a later time, sometimes sooner, rather than later.
@kevinharnoldcanchila12209 ай бұрын
Tendrá su nueva serie en la nueva era de los x men
@user-yp2iy2ww5p9 ай бұрын
I can't wait to see Rachel punch Xavier in the face for that stunt. Seriously killing her. I know he's he's desperate, but that's had to be the stupidest thing he ever Done in life, and I hope he dies at the end for good. Seriously, killing off counters. Again, really repetitive. Like pretty repetitive. I have a theory hope and Rachel are the ones who Will revive the Phoenix or Rekindle it to bring Jean Grey and Phoenix back from the brink of death. Anne will take down the Ai God for good.
@kevinharnoldcanchila12209 ай бұрын
@@user-yp2iy2ww5p nah, quien revivira al fénix será hope summers
@MatthewLoh-ru1mw9 ай бұрын
@@user-yp2iy2ww5p Hope, yes, Rachel no as she is now depowered, and also HELPLESS
@user-yp2iy2ww5p9 ай бұрын
@@MatthewLoh-ru1mw But Rachel can still help even if she's not the host and Depowered. She knows magic, so it could help them out.
@ronaldbaxter54999 ай бұрын
When did Doug die to be reborn as a sinister? Why didn’t Krakoa know immediately? Does Charles think Rachel will come back as the Phoenix or is his sinister side kicking in. Why would he even use a gun to kill Moira? Just purge her mind where she stops breathing or tell her mind to stop pumping blood. This is feeling dumb at this point.
@IrvinReedTemplarUp9 ай бұрын
🤔 It's very possible that Xavier will force Rachel to perform a Phoenix Song on Moira...but that may be a power only Jean can do. But then again, all of Rachel's paths leads her to becoming Mother Askani so there's that...
@MatthewLoh-ru1mw9 ай бұрын
How can she when she is now depowered? Please think carefully
@redmaxxs9 ай бұрын
All I have to do is go back in time and use one of the bullets that doesn't hurt anyone but take away powers just use it on her right when it activates. Use a psychic power to give her an item that will make sure she'll never have her powers turn on. Make her forget that it's on her or in her. It that simple.
@comicbreakdown9 ай бұрын
They don't want to risk her getting powers back. If she is dead she can't for sure.
@redmaxxs9 ай бұрын
@@comicbreakdown Here's the thing her powers activated when she died. If they have a device activated that stops It from activating or that gun that actually takes the X Gene out of her. That's what they did in the future and that's why she became a cyborg. The Gun Mystique and Destiny shot her with. Even if someone gets her dnd and tries to make clones of her, Gene is gone. All the smart people and they're dumb especially Xavier never trust a Sinister not not one inch. I see the point of her being dead would be 100% sure.
@aureumsilentium65189 ай бұрын
This mess is so tangled up that the only thing I'm sure of is that in the end there will be a timeline reboot and the X-Men will hopefully go back to before the krakoan era, when Xavier still was Xavier, beast was a good guy, moira didn't reset time as a hobby, and shady mutants didn't hang out with honest mutants just because they shared the same genetics.
@AmRealityInc9 ай бұрын
In Charles we trust
@MatthewLoh-ru1mw9 ай бұрын
Well, not anymore after this
@lowlevelplato9 ай бұрын
Meh. This time travel bs is way too convoluted at this point. Terminator films are more cohesive
@Borderlines9 ай бұрын
Wait so instead of Rachel, Xavier wants Rasputin to be the Phoenix host? He just called Rachel to make sure he's taken out all other possible hosts?!
@TylerBobby-r5s9 ай бұрын
Well, technically the only host and perfect one is Jean Grey. Her and the Phoenix are one and the same. Rasputin being the host wouldn't work properly.
@user-yp2iy2ww5p9 ай бұрын
Don't worry, Rachel will come back to life. Seriously, killing off counters. Again, really repetitive. Like pretty repetitive.
@MatthewLoh-ru1mw9 ай бұрын
@@TylerBobby-r5sno, Jean and the Phoenix ARE NOT one and the same!! Jean came first, Phoenix much, much later when Claremont came on to write the X-men! STOP saying Jean and the Phoenix are "one and the same"!!
@lyricalstylesmusic9 ай бұрын
No one makes me Madder then Charles and Cyclops 😑 literally NO ONE
@joeparrigen49829 ай бұрын
I blame the writers and editors
@gamelover22229 ай бұрын
Not sure I am following everything. I hope you do a cool comprehensive video when this is all over if we need it! Depends on if they do a restart or not. I still don't know what I want the writers to do in the end.
@DJJunkfoodJay9 ай бұрын
I love RB's art but is the colorist doing the blur effects? It absolutely ruins pieces of his art in this book, there's a page where Rasputin slices through a Sentinel, it's completely blurred with an effect. Bad.
@broughtone9 ай бұрын
So i think Moira is going to take over the dominion from the inside and live her selfish life alone. Since enigma made the deal that she would have her own section of consciousness.
@kingjaven139 ай бұрын
I never clicked so fast, professor x did what
@nateotiano9 ай бұрын
Me too..
@sfhkxdd9 ай бұрын
Same
@decidueyezealot86119 ай бұрын
KILL
@simonthabang33429 ай бұрын
Charles true colors are finally coming to light
@infinitecontent80019 ай бұрын
I did not see this coming!!!
@TylerBobby-r5s9 ай бұрын
This is the reason to never trust Charles Xavier ever. I mean killing a kid to stop what exactly? Dominion is Omnitemporal once it exists their is nothing that will stop it from existing in time. Not to mention wouldn't killing Moira also mess with the existence of a good amount of mutants, not just Krakoa. Wouldn't this also open an can of worms when it comes to time? And now he shot Rachael in the back wow.
@rjhemedes9 ай бұрын
Killing Moira before Krakoa came into existence would prevent the Dominion from forming taking over. That's why Dominion allowed destiny to live - he needed Destiny's help in Krakoa being formed.Also, after seeing what a mess Krakoa ended up as, Charles basically wanted to hit the reset button again.
@jackieanderson94089 ай бұрын
Good afternoon comic break down 😄😁
@kingshadow87829 ай бұрын
Awesome!
@ZeeB...9 ай бұрын
I mean if Charles is going to kill Moira then he should have gone on this mission alone to avoid all this. Now when Scott, Psylocke, and Jean hear of this they're coming for his blood.
@MatthewLoh-ru1mw9 ай бұрын
They are not going to hear about any of this! Scott is busy trying to stop Nimrod, which he failed, Psylocke is now Japan with Greycrow settling down but will later fight vampires in "Blood Hunt", and Jean is currently in a DYING state, so no to all other above
@ZeeB...9 ай бұрын
Well, I did say when they found out. eventually, they will.
@MatthewLoh-ru1mw9 ай бұрын
@@ZeeB... Cyclops and Psylocke are shown to be on an X-men team to be written by Jed Mckay this coming July, with Magneto looking like the former Prof. X, however, Jean is NOWHERE to be seen though a Phoenix book has been listed, but no creative team for it has been announced yet. But it doesn't answer your comment whether they will find out what Xavier did😅
@gbonz809 ай бұрын
Charles "Hollywood ", Xavier.
@jackieanderson94089 ай бұрын
This was sweet 🎂
@jrwilliams40299 ай бұрын
They had to go back in time again, shewww, as if this story wasn’t convoluted enough and how do you reconcile that young moira being threatened with all the previous Moiras from House/Powers of X and all the dead Moira clones from the Moira engine in the SOS event?
@MatthewLoh-ru1mw9 ай бұрын
Exactly. That makes it TWO Moiras running around
@danielivanov9309 ай бұрын
Btw wasn't the whole point for all of this Xavier to travel to her first life ? 🤔 This is her 10th life before she,Xavier and Magneto form Krakoa . They send an x-men team across Moira's lives just to discover her first life and stop Enigma emerging .
@1187underground9 ай бұрын
Him not killing Moira is a much better story. I didnt think he was going to pull the trigger on the character he did, but well see if they save Rasputin for future stories. Im pretty sure that the powered-up Moira is the Moira-Phalanx that we saw in the previous issues. She is the one to really set this end in motion, but she wont succeed.
@danielivanov9309 ай бұрын
The part where Xavier shoots Rachel got me confused . I wonder how is everything going to play out now ,with Moira,with Rachel . 🤔
@MatthewLoh-ru1mw9 ай бұрын
Basically things go to s**t with Rachel out of the picture
@christopherbennett58589 ай бұрын
Betsy and Jean teamup to kick Xavier’s ass?
@MatthewLoh-ru1mw9 ай бұрын
Nope, Betsy is busy on Earth rescuing mutants from prisons around Britain and Jean is currently DYING
@christopherbennett58589 ай бұрын
@@MatthewLoh-ru1mw After the events. Selene joining them would be funny. It’s just ideas in my head that would be funny eg the Cuckoos finding out that Catseye is their foster sister, Threnody arriving to help track and beat up Beast etc.
@MatthewLoh-ru1mw9 ай бұрын
@@christopherbennett5858 no, Selene would never join them! She just wants to keep feeding people regardless of who she joins! (remember her feeding on Orchis agents despite being their team?)
@christopherbennett58589 ай бұрын
@@MatthewLoh-ru1mw She also fixates on redheads that can kill her and Rachel was that for her.
@MatthewLoh-ru1mw9 ай бұрын
@@christopherbennett5858 nope, that was Hope killing Selene back in the now finished Immortal X-men, NOT Rachel! Rachel never even ever killed Selene.
@JosephSanousi9 ай бұрын
In this whole fall of X story with the end of krokoa, I can only think of one thing. Where is Santa in all this, he is an omega mutant. 😅
@admiz65929 ай бұрын
You know if comics were truly logical Charles could’ve had all the knowledge, proserved DNA and memories of Krakoa backed up and given to his past self, so that way when he kills Moira they can still have Krakoa while having the knowledge of Nathaniel’s clones and Enigma to destroy him early.
@EZ-bx9pc9 ай бұрын
Being a “nice guy” Doesn’t Make You A Good One !!
@MatthewLoh-ru1mw9 ай бұрын
True, actions speak LOUDER than words! 😅
@KillstreakSwordsV49 ай бұрын
Yay he kills Moira. Didn't they have a similar thing in which they had to kill a baby Hitler with Deadpool? Maybe a baby apocalypse. But they changed the future by raising him the right way. Couldn't they have done something similar with her?
@hughtims9 ай бұрын
Did Xavier just leave the dead xmen in space/time? We know Jubes comes back but i'll be happy if that team is the new Exiles.
@user-yp2iy2ww5p9 ай бұрын
I have a theory hope and Rachel are the ones who Will revive the Phoenix or Rekindle it to bring Jean Grey and Phoenix back from the brink of death. Anne will take down the Ai God for good.
@MatthewLoh-ru1mw9 ай бұрын
How can they? Rachel is depowered so she's of no help here
@user-yp2iy2ww5p9 ай бұрын
@@MatthewLoh-ru1mw Well it doesn't matter if she have Her psychic abilities or not she still have the power of the Phoenix inside her. Even normal people like say echo can become The host of the Phoenix.
@MatthewLoh-ru1mw9 ай бұрын
@@user-yp2iy2ww5p no, she doesn't have her psychic powers either as thats been "deactivated" when Xavier SHOT her! And no, she hasn't had the powers of the Phoenix for a long, long time! So none of what you say will work
@MatthewLoh-ru1mw9 ай бұрын
@@user-yp2iy2ww5p no, she hasn't had the Phoenix in her nor does she have it's powers in a long, long time. So no, she cannot help revive Jean and the Phoenix when right now she is depowered
@MatthewLoh-ru1mw9 ай бұрын
@@user-yp2iy2ww5p if anything, it's probably Hope as she was it's recent host during AvX
@me0on0utube9 ай бұрын
Maybe he did what he did to Rachel so she can go into The White Hot Room
@MatthewLoh-ru1mw9 ай бұрын
No, she can't. She cannot enter the WHR when she is depowered😅
@hcbabyssian89369 ай бұрын
@@MatthewLoh-ru1mwyou're just making things up and forcing your half-wit opinion as fact. It isn't.
@ampocalypsew38839 ай бұрын
All of this could've been avoided if Charles told or manipulated moria to join Destiny, to ensure mutants win
@MatthewLoh-ru1mw9 ай бұрын
Well, now it too late
@ampocalypsew38839 ай бұрын
@@MatthewLoh-ru1mw indeed
@kingshadow87829 ай бұрын
Oh Yeah!
@robertocolvard19239 ай бұрын
This makes no sense. Hickmon Era she had her powers at conception. She knew her life in the womb
@kingshadow87829 ай бұрын
Wooohooo!
@melikakh.52229 ай бұрын
I like charles😅 really! I think I am alone in this. But i really do
@lucyhalefan5819 ай бұрын
Another solid issue
@justinfjay96119 ай бұрын
Im so pissed Xavier didn't shoot Moira
@DavidS.Pumpkin9 ай бұрын
Better late than never!
@robertmiddleton61129 ай бұрын
Im lost.. Why did he shoot Rachel?
@comicbreakdown9 ай бұрын
We don't know
@kevinharnoldcanchila12209 ай бұрын
Y lo peor es que nos toca esperar un mes para saber el porque.
@MatthewLoh-ru1mw9 ай бұрын
He didn't want her to "interfere" now that she knows Xavier and Sinister are working together
@robertmiddleton61129 ай бұрын
@MatthewLoh-ru1mw interfer with what though it seemed like they no longer had a plan since he didn't pull the trigger.
@MatthewLoh-ru1mw9 ай бұрын
@@robertmiddleton6112 she was appalled at Xavier teaming up with Sinister and his evil plan, hence she would try to "interfere" and go with resurrecting Phoenix instead, the "better way" as she says!
@drd31849 ай бұрын
You would think the rest of the marvel universe doesn't exist with the approach taken with these shitty X stories
@sfhkxdd9 ай бұрын
Good or bad ?
@MatthewLoh-ru1mw9 ай бұрын
Bad
@carhac669 ай бұрын
she is hundreds of years old in a child's body, so she is not a child. No one has anything to say about Doug being killed when he is possessed by sinister, that is okay because it's a guy? this writing makes NO SENSE. Charles would've just done it. Charles should've done it and ended this bad writing.
@TylerBobby-r5s9 ай бұрын
I think that's Moira's first life so she is a child.
@EmoEmu9 ай бұрын
WHY ARE WE YELLING?
@comicbreakdown9 ай бұрын
I'm not? Turn down your volume lol
@vicmiklausic54159 ай бұрын
What the heck happened? This does not make any sense. What is this? I am more than severely confused.
@devegas49109 ай бұрын
X-Men Forever will likely straighten it out
@DrDetfink9 ай бұрын
Sounds like a fake out right? Charles Xavier going full Doom Patrol chief? The most powerful telepath sloppily uses a firearm? Meh. Rachel Summers is one of the main characters in one of the titles reboot. Clearly this doesn’t go as planned.
@DomSum79 ай бұрын
The hell?!
@LandofMert769 ай бұрын
I'm not liking this story at all. You'd think someone would tell him that going back in time to kill people doesn't end well.
@richiepommells1809 ай бұрын
What a twist Xavier is the traitor he gone mad In X-men red magneto warn storm what Charles was capable of He wasn t lying ,even storm saw the truth and her friendship with Xavier was no more And too think how the X-men treated cyclops when he killed Xavier during A vs X event Talk about hypocrisy Cyclops was never the pariah it was always Xavier
@joeparrigen49829 ай бұрын
It's the writers who are the villains.
@EmoEmu9 ай бұрын
The Scarlet Witch was right.
@gavintshepho96069 ай бұрын
Why shoot Rachael?
@andrecasseus60409 ай бұрын
Dang 😮
@ZenMultiverse_9 ай бұрын
I have a small theory that Moria (now Robot) had this planned and saves everyone.
@SoloQueueGamer9 ай бұрын
Charles acting as if he knows what is right for everyone else, and then looking exactly like Steve Jobs (sans the eyeglasses). Moira being offered a deal for her to be everything and anything she wants anyhow she wants, kinda like apple vision. Are the writers doing an allegory of Apple? 🤣🤣🤣 Probably a strech, I'm probably just overthinking.
@grifo33109 ай бұрын
I'm sorry Professor X is not the monster here
@MatthewLoh-ru1mw9 ай бұрын
Then who?
@andressinks9 ай бұрын
Only if he shot her to get to the WHR and help jean unleash the Phoenix. That's just an if. @@MatthewLoh-ru1mw
@MatthewLoh-ru1mw9 ай бұрын
@@andressinks I'm NOT so sure. It didn't look that way! In fact, when Rachel was talking about reviving Phoenix, he shoots her instead! Besides, HOW is Rachel going to help Jean and the Phoenix when she herself doesn't have any Phoenix power for a long time?
@user-yp2iy2ww5p9 ай бұрын
He's wrong. The Phoenix is not dead and they still have time to save it or revive it. Don't worry, Rachel will come back to life. Seriously, killing off counters. Again, really repetitive. Like pretty repetitive.
@MatthewLoh-ru1mw9 ай бұрын
No, but it is dying together with Jean, and no, Rachel is not dead but depwered
@user-yp2iy2ww5p9 ай бұрын
@@MatthewLoh-ru1mw You mean say it’s not dead?
@MatthewLoh-ru1mw9 ай бұрын
@@user-yp2iy2ww5p it's not dead, but it is dying
@heromodePODCAST9 ай бұрын
Charles is such a scummy guy
@mcpics44489 ай бұрын
One could say He's a Jerk lol
@christopherbennett58589 ай бұрын
@@mcpics4448This is a Kate Pryde approved message.
@Twin_Dragon_Fists9 ай бұрын
why is Rachel drawn as a man?
@PhillyTJ8 ай бұрын
American artist just draw however they want. Sometimes the art is so off I can't even tell who's who
@o-redstoothbrush79169 ай бұрын
x men has always been my favorite comics,but this last year has made me despise x men comics .I dont see how anyone likes the writing anymore.x men are no longer xmen,it is just shock factor garbage book after shock factor garbage book and nothing even makes sense anymore.
@Killgore-ip2yq9 ай бұрын
X of swords changed the Krakoa Era which started off with greats runs to mid runs and moment Hickman left and Kieron Gilleon and Dan Jurgens started running the X-men books everything went bad. People are gonna hate the X-men books because of the Krakoa Era but really it's because the X-men are being written contrived and bad again repeating their old mistakes and gonna carry that into the relaunch.
@o-redstoothbrush79169 ай бұрын
@Killgore-ip2yq someone need fired.lol
@MatthewLoh-ru1mw9 ай бұрын
Agreed
@andressinks9 ай бұрын
I'm not liking how convoluted it's getting, but if they somehow wrap it up/simplify it real quick like. Enough with the round and round time bs. Let Rachel land in the white hot room from this and get jean/Phoenix let loose to take it to task (or even both of them since they're both natural hosts). And if that was Xaviers plan...? Still hurry this mess up.
@MatthewLoh-ru1mw9 ай бұрын
@@andressinks uh no, Rachel is in the NO-place, so she can't get to the WHR! And no, she can't help with reviving Jean and the Phoenix if she DOESN'T even have any Phoenix power in her for a LONG time.
@Stratoschalo9 ай бұрын
du foq
@Carl-vg5zt9 ай бұрын
Charles or hitler
@drd31849 ай бұрын
This makes no sense and this is garbage.
@theayatollahofrockandrolla9 ай бұрын
Bro.. it's just X .. you could have gotten away with this for X of swords.. but stop it.. get help.
@comicbreakdown9 ай бұрын
Get help for saying a word? Lol
@theayatollahofrockandrolla9 ай бұрын
@@comicbreakdown I'm sorry.. I mistakenly took you for someone who wants to be a pro KZbinr.. my bad.. carry on with whatever you were doing. I'll go watch my TEN men content somewhere else..
@GM_MorganV9 ай бұрын
The X in Rise of Powers of X is supposed to be a 10 like the Roman numeral. Fall of the House of X is X as in X-men. Some folks at Marvel think they’re clever.
@theayatollahofrockandrolla9 ай бұрын
@@GM_MorganVLOL Show me...This all came about because of youtubers that never picked a TEN MAN book before Hickmans run have no clue...You also want to sound smart?... Keep calling it Ten..IDGAF.. just letting you know how WRONG you are.