The Return of The Phoenix Force (Avengers vs X-Men Vol 1: Hope Summers)

[@shamanfryd]

Ever notice when a character becomes corrupted and become a bad guy the way they talk is always changed to resemble that of some evil king? "I can't stand it any more" becomes "I can tolerate it no longer!". Is there some supernatural being out there in charge of downloading eloquent speech patterns into evil leader heads?

[@imsexyroblox6838]

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[@brwnboyszn]

I don’t follow

[@SSImmortalisSupreme]

​@brwnboyszn Basically the characters dialog changes from more Modern English to speaking in a more elegant manner like he said from " I won't stand for this any more" to " I will tolerate this, no longer"

[@hasaankhan1048]

cyclops trying to look like Nightwing with his suit when he has the phoenix force. 😂

[@huangwen-si7498]

Hassan Khan I thought the same thing.

[@ororoshadowking6292]

I never so It

[@Mojavekight17]

So true

[@jammanhammer]

Cyclops was right. Avengers were just mad they weren't on top. The xmen improved everyone's lives on the planet. The avengers keep the status quo and protect Manhattan

[@DA-to6gi]

I agree.

[@danielniemeyer1987]

@BALDICANO, Donzel Romaire what for killing professor x who had lied and manipulated them the x men from the beginning.

[@popcultureclips182]

@@danielniemeyer1987 doesn’t mean it was ok to kill him

[@954Jk]

What not just Manhattan they protect the entire world

[@ElderAleks]

@@954Jk theres other superhero teams around the world.

[@53eric53]

Cyclops was the good guy in this. When cyclops got the Phoenix power he helped people. Cyclops with the Phoenix power stopped world hunger by given water and food where there was none. Cyclops was going to make sure there was no more earthquakes. Cyclops gave endless energy to people so humans could build things as long as it wasn't weapons of death. Cyclops went to the world leaders stated he was going to do much more and in the end all he wanted was peace.

[@Memoirs_OF_Rebirths]

but the avengers had to jump in and try to take hope away from the mutants forcibly which was a bad idea. Cap shoulda at least asked Cyclops why he is doing these things but i guess when the world is at stake no one matters.

[@jimmykrabclaw5732]

Yeah but avengers makes more money, so they're the good guys.

[@joshypolo]

....aaaaand he murdered Xavier in cold blood

[@53eric53]

Kevin Nguyen The world wasn't at stake cyclops was helping people.

[@53eric53]

Bad Philospher That was Xavier fault.

[@Memoirs_OF_Rebirths]

Cyclop was right in my opinion they been through hell and back, saved the world a couple of times. But humanity still put walls in front of them, hated them, hunted them, and feared them. They looked the other way and still chose to save humanity because it was the right thing to do. Now here comes Captain America, he may be the the first ever superhero, but he wasn't there when the X-men needed him the most. Where was he when they were hunted, killed or put restrictions on them? Also where was Tony when the mutant started losing everything? I love Cap and Stark and but i love the X-men more and they really needed a way to bring back the mutant race from extinction after house of M.

[@carloslalbatros]

yeah totally agree! i would love good xmen stories to come out now haha :)

[@kreiyu]

i think all the humans hating mutants but seemingly loving the rest of the super hero community thing has gotten old.

[@Memoirs_OF_Rebirths]

yea it is getting old. I remember in the Blue Marvel comic how Reed mentions to Antman about the mutants and how he came to be part of the mutant community because of franklin being a mutant.

[@joellacount5906]

it's 50ish years condensed down to 19ish years in marvel verse, everything is relevant

[@kurtlindner]

I feel it's beyond unfair to argue, "Where were you when we needed you?" simply because -the decision for The Avengers, or anyone else to help simply isn't their own, it's the writers -and let's be honest, if the stories were real, Cap would be helping mutants, so would Tony. If the stories were real, they wouldn't be nearly as compelling, sometimes a compelling story simply uses a weak plot point to propel the story forward. I can't fault any character for not helping the mutant cause, because to not help is out of character for many who would, it's the writers who need to be called out for not working it into the stories.

[@lonestarwolfentertainment7184]

"This isn't peace, this is fear" -Captain America in The Winter Soldier. That's the quote that I thought of when I saw how the Phoenix Five were *helping* the world, they may have good intentions but so does Doctor Doom and the MCU version of Thanos yet we still see those two as bad guys

[@StrikerCup79]

They fear what the phoenix plan after helping the earth Because what she did in dark phoenix she didnt even have a host back then and try to pretend she has jesn but jean was long dead and doesnt want the phoenix to possessed her again

[@Sorj-Sonr]

House of M X-Men: Endangered Species X-Men: Messiah Complex X-Force\Cable:Messiah WAR Avengers * X-Men: Utopia X-Men: Nation X X-Men: Second Coming X-Men: Second Coming "Revelations" X-Men: Prelude to Schism X-Men: Schism AVENGERS VS X-MEN Civil War. That's the order I read and it's incredible. Tell that to egoraptor.

[@fernandozavaletabustos205]

Why Civil War at the end? That's after Second Coming but before Schism.

[@PathsUnwritten]

16:40 "Every time he says 'old friend", he really saying 'F*** you, Magneto!' " -The Key of Awesome

[@theraVen27]

X-Men vs Avengers..without Thor!? That's like Hulk vs a child. 21:15 Cyclops looks SO fucking cool!

[@nhayes481]

The X-Men don't deserve the slow, painful, messy death that Marvel has put them through. I get that Fox really dropped the ball with that license but X-Men as a whole has been good to Marvel over the years and now they've just been torn apart. It's ridiculous and shameful. And just one more reason that Marvel has fallen off hard

[@tevincollins2869]

N Hayes yea they just ended the thing that keep them afloat in the 90”s,70”s and 80”s like what.

[@carlbloke8797]

Tevin Collins ikr

[@ComputerBLEW]

I think the last movie was the only flop

[@popcultureclips182]

Not anymore they recently got the right back and then they did dawn of x

[@efxnews4776]

I hate Marvel for a long time, but recently i start to notice the pattern, they literally screw with Jean Grey for years, only to drop her, for ANOTHER JEAN GREY. Jesus Christ, the poor girl wasn't supposed to survive the Dark Phoenix saga, but they brought her back, and then they keep repeating the cycle over and over to the point of making her a JOKE. Jean doesn't deseve the fate that she got, in fact she would either DIE permanently or then become the big S of Marvel. NEITHER OF THIS THINGS HAPPEN! The Fans can't let her go, and Marvel doesn't know what too do with her... I know what i would do. I would make her solo! Far away from X-men, far away from Earth, BUT NOT WITHOUT Phoenix force, this power belongs TO HER, she has THE RIGHT for this power, and his HER RIGHT to hold it.

[@captainmarvelous7678]

I like me some Captain America but this was some bullcrap on his part. Cyclops was 100% in the right during this event and the Avengers were agressive and dickish to them from panel one in this story. The Phoenix 5 were fixing all of the world's problems and all the Avengers could do was whine about how much power they had and what would go wrong. #Cyclopswasright

[@TheEman11910]

Not to mention the X-Men had the most experience dealing with the phoenix

[@Aquillies680]

#Cyclopswasright

[@psychopirate1779]

U noobs phoenix corrupts anyone anyhow...try to read comics

[@jimmyboots2096]

Yeah the avengers are crybabies

[@marianne6440]

@@psychopirate1779 In Secret Wars, Scott became the host of the phoenix for the second time, but he remained sane, he didn't go mad once You know why ? Because no Avenger was there to push him to the limit

[@evilotto9200]

The godlike power to manifest a 4k TV out of nothing... Big dreamer there, Rob

[@SliceofAnimeIRL]

Or go to BestBuy and reach into your pocket and get as much money as you needed at that particular time. The 4k TV bit had me rolling!

[@jaredfox1005]

lol, I thought the same thing. Godlike power now...let go to best buy. Still make great videos, even if you're not an aspiring world conqueror.

[@dragonballtalk8527]

Evil Otto youtube gives rob money

[@kuzmavolkov]

dragon ball talk not that much and proly not for long with yt's ad shit.

[@syxx7wun]

"two chicks at the same time"

[@sentanyl3399]

Pretty sure Magneto vs Iron Man wouldn't last too long. Or end very well for Tony Stark lol.

[@keshon79]

Sentanyl3 lol tbh but you know these writers are dumb

[@maxhooker9048]

it literally says in the story that he has antimagnetism defenses

[@nickjames2050]

He’s the master of mangaistm

[@donnahazen9242]

Im sure tony could make a suit that wasnt affected by magnetism

[@epicgodlux4228]

What does Tony's suit have to do with it? Metal is apart of the universe and within human genealogy. We have iron flowing through out our bodies. Not to mention the Earth, the objects built on Earth by man and the magnetic fields around the Earth. Just saying

[@LordRemms]

Ooooh this is great. You're really covering all the older stuff again. Thanks ✊🏽

[@kobebonhomme7037]

Older? Came out not even a decade ago

[@vinicinfodexota5083]

Marvel is trying to kill the xmen for years, I found that weird since the xmen is their best IP, and lets not forget how the xmen saved marvel from dying in the 90s

[@dawudjibreel6075]

Not weird at all. It was strategic. They did it to make the Xmen film rights less valuable to Fox to the point where Fox would be more willing to sell the film rights back to Marvel. Think about it. By producing xmen comics Marvel were helping to promote the movies and maintain public interest in those films which would hardly make Fox want to return the rights.

[@carlbloke8797]

Dawud Jibreel it wasn’t worth making the X-men and in the end it didn’t even matter now that they’re owned by Disney

[@mr.kingofphenomenal4629]

It's because at that time they don't own Xmen so they tried to kill them off. Now they own them they are try to rebuild them back up after what they did to X men.

[@StrikerCup79]

X-Men is marvel You mean avenger

[@HonestFarmerLigue1Fan]

@@StrikerCup79 X-Men and Spider-Man are MARVEL. When Marvel almost went bankrupt, they redesign Marvel in the 90's, no one gave a crap about Avengers (other than in Infinity Gauntlet stories where they are pretty much sacrifical lambs), Onslaught was Boss Villain at that time, and Spider-Man was not Iron Boy Junior.

[@UnifiedEntity]

Anyone else finding bullshit how Tony has a machine to disrupt some force out of nowhere? Hulk goes World Breaker, wasnt even stopped by the sentry but satellite beam takes him out in his STRONGEST INCARNATION. Then Tony makes some shit that is powerful enough to split the phoenix force......Like what?

[@yakudde]

RaginDXDemon Isn't the real question that hulk stopped the Sentry to a standstill. I was satisfied at that moment. Then came Hulk's entourage and beat a dead horse and added a twist to redem the illuminati. Then a space canon. The sentry was enough, you can trash sentry but hey he is more fun to me than Hyperion. Man wish they would make a Dc x Marvel event and fight a god of gods or a being outside the univers and sees our universe as a microvers.

[@nitrologly]

Don't forget he took out Void Sentry with a helicarrier when Thor couldn't even take him out.

[@UnifiedEntity]

WHAT!!!!! Hell nah. You fucking kidding me right?

[@artificiallyflavord5588]

Batman-ism

[@PunchianThe3rd]

RaginDXDemon stark pretty smart

[@rabumalal]

Good to see support to Cyclops, i think that if the phoenix 5 would have not been pushed(seriously, would you poke someone with anger issues[phoenix' implicit instability] and say it's their fault?), good things could have come out, as Reed Richards pointed out to cap and tony. As Coates portrayed on the latest volume of black panther, both sides can't be right and can't be worng, and as long you don't sit to talk and make a point that integrate the best of both you are doomed to fight instead of growing.

[@aafficial79]

I want to thank you. Your explanation of comics gave me back the passion become a more avid reader at 38! The way you explain comics with the intensity you do is awesome!

[@TheSupaCoopaGaming]

You have god-like powers and use it to manifest a 4k TV - mad respect.

[@364carrollst]

What I didn’t care for with The Avengers is that they showed up and ordered them to hand her over- they came to fight. They didn’t trust those who had experience with The Phoenix and came across like superhero police abusing their power and position. There’s no understanding of it, they just want to hit it. Scott was on a path to becoming a villain but he had proper prompting and help from the outside world. And worst, there was no remorse on behalf of The Avengers once all was said and done that The Phoenix, once in the hands of Hope, WASN’T A THREAT!! Stark breaks it apart before it made it to hope- they created an even bigger problem because fear clouded good judgement. Also, Hope was brought up by Cable and I believe she was therefore much more mentally equipped than Jean. Also, she’s a part of the force- there was all of these assumptions made about Hope and mutants without involving mutants until it was time to deal with them.

[@TSEDLE333]

@8:22 and Cyclops is RIGHT again Rob...no matter how much some people wanted to say he wasn't...Cyclops IS RIGHT in NEARLY EVERY SINGLE PANEL in the whole event...this was Marvel trying to kill off the Xmen because of Fox, and it backfired so amazingly it hurts.... @9:10 Polverine was just a traitor of convenience. HE was the most popular Xmen of the time, so Marvel had to save his ass somehow...

[@MusaMansu]

Honestly, I think Cyclops is more popular than wolverine at this point. At least with people that read the X-Books.

[@popcultureclips182]

@@MusaMansu nah wolverine has way more solos than cyclops

[@MusaMansu]

@@popcultureclips182 He does, but the X-Men books are centered around Cyclops. Honestly, he’s the closest thing to a main character that they have. He doesn’t need a solo. He runs those books.

[@popcultureclips182]

@@MusaMansu there is no main character it’s a team book

[@MusaMansu]

@@popcultureclips182 Wait... do you think every character on a team book is equally important? Was Beak as important as Wolverine?

[@jaxter6610]

Colossus is powerful on his own, then he got juggernauts powers, and then he also got a fifth of the Phoenix force?? Come on man, that's too op

[@erfederizo]

When he got the phoenix force, the power from cyttorak was removed

[@lonestarwolfentertainment7184]

Just to clarify the Avengers were weary of the Phoenix Five because they’ve seen first hand just how corruptive the Phoenix Force can be but they only started getting hostile with them after Namor attacked Wakanda so the Avengers were not unjustified in this story

[@antyoung24]

I like that Cyclops character has developed into what it has over over the years

[@kyleriker4695]

Sweet Thanks Rob! I've been asking for this video forever!

[@captainmarvelous7678]

Can I ask a question? Why did you leave out the part of the story where the Phoenix 5 solve the majority of HUMANITIES problems while also creating their Utopia? To me this was a significant part of the story because the Phoenix 5 were legitimately making the world a much better place with their powers and you only commented on what they did for themselves. And when you remove that context it makes some later actions seem much less justifiable than I think they are. Just curious and would like a response please.

[@117MasterSpartan]

Captain Marvelous Cus I’m ice cream

[@carlbloke8797]

Captain Marvelous 2 years later and he hasn’t responded

[@mr.kingofphenomenal4629]

Because he biased towards the Xmen.

[@MagnificentGP]

I actually really loved this story when I read it and I normally love Robs explanations but he missed such great parts in this explanation, I know there's a lot of story to fit into two videos but he focused on Phoenix force rather than the story, that's my opinion anyway.

[@rocketpunchgo1]

I'm curious as to what the "thumbs down"s are for. Not sure what is bad about this video. This guy did an excellent job

[@rocketpunchgo1]

Also: at 9:36 Does this mean Wolverine is/was MORE in love with Jean Grey than Cyclops? Wouldn't Scott too be "in tune" with Hope's emotions/Phoenix's power?

[@Missrena1000]

smokebomb.exe Yeah, I didn't really understand the part where he chose to not give her the Phoenix because it technically belonged to her.

[@TowDow3]

the phoenix has NO reason to fear scarlet witch. even if she said no more mutants again. the phoenix isn't a mutant and basically do what it wants which could be making someone a mutant or even resetting reality even after scarlet wich says no more mutants. lol

[@mr.googoopants3581]

Tow Dow 3 Actually, The Scarlet Witch's Chaos Magic affects the connection between the PF and it's host, not the PF itself.

[@mr.kingofphenomenal4629]

Mr. Googoopants Yeah then here comes Hope Summers

[@awokwok1029]

Yeah too bad, Phoenix force immune to Chaos magic.

[@StrikerCup79]

@@awokwok1029 actually when the phoenix was inside hope she was harm by wanda when it get out she's been hurt by the chaos or the reality altering or the hexxes

[@milanjones2917]

@@StrikerCup79 Wanda powers didn’t even work against Scott neither did Wanda and cyclops power when hope took in the Phoenix force

[@tobyism]

Rob, you should do some classic stuff some time. Dark Phoenix, Inferno, all the things us old timers grew up on. Even if it's just a fast fun video. keep up the good work!

[@louiefillet6932]

Another great video..I was obsessed with all the different variant covers for this series, what great artists.

[@lances4537]

Lol Tony stark jumping at Magneto....how

[@marcelsansalone3829]

Antimagnetism device. Just like how his suit isnt even metalic in itself anymore lol

[@suckmyspaghettimonster4603]

He actually kick magneto's ass easily

[@erfederizo]

Tony's wearing an armor made out of carbon nano tubes

[@terrorwolfxx]

dude I love when you do anything that is X-Men

[@undacoval3rotha]

Avengers Vs X-men was one of the things that got me into comics. I was looking to dive into comics and all i knew was i had to have some X-Men and this storyline had just finished. Not to mention the Avengers movie hype was still very real so this felt like the right thing to do. I ended up buying the whole run in single issues off a guy who overheard me asking about it in a comic shop by my job and i regret nothing.

[@planetdee3587]

Dark Phoenix was stated up in Marvel series 2 cards in the 90s. I always assumed this reflected the stats of the Phoenix force hindered by a physical body. Still strong enough to lay down the Xmen of the 90s, but not Galactus level. She could life over 100 tons, travel speed of light, standard human agility, stamina equal to about a week or so at max, durability equal to Thor and Hulk (below Silver Surfer), above normal IQ, highest level mental abilities and highest level energy projection (that the stat allowed) and decent fighting ability equal to a soldier/ninja. Years later it seems once they dove more into the Phoenix as an entity without a host, she challenged players like Galactus and better.

[@TevyaSmolka]

Cyclops got screwed over thanks to stupid AVX crap

[@TevyaSmolka]

yup and both deaths sucked and a complete slap in the face

[@popeye697]

Utopia was the leftover wreckage of Magneto's Astroid M. That, combined with Cyclops uniting almost the entirely of the mutant race, is why Magneto decided to follow his leadership

[@BahLahKae0]

i feel like when rob is about to record the next video in one of the stories that hes been saying hes going to do for ages but then sees a new story then gets really excited and decides to cover that instead

[@DtodaJ]

I read this story already. But I watched this anyway. I love to hear you read it to me like bedtime story lol

[@whitephoenixofthecrown8523]

Pls make a video about the actual Phoenix Force, What it is capable of and What it represents etc.

[@Zero00wolfkiller]

Weren't you paying attention? He doesn't know what the Phoenix Force can do, no one does. The Phoenix Force can do whatever it wants, whenever it wants and if you're in the way then YOU DEAD!

James Wolf well white phoenix cyclops lost against dr. doom

[@whitephoenixofthecrown8523]

Totally Barack Obama white Phoenix Cyclops? Really? He was more of a Green Phoenix. Only two characters became White Phoenix and they r Jean Grey and Hope Summers tho Hope was WP for a few minutes. U can not compare a host who has a fraction power of the Phoenix Force to a person who has the power of the Beyonders

[@lucariomew358_2]

Totally Barack Obama It was a newly born fragment of the Phoenix Force. That being said God Emperor Doom had the powers of the Beyonders and Molecule Man. Not even the Living Tribunal could stand up to the Force of the Beyonders.

[@lucariomew358_2]

Emmett Frost That would be a long drawn-out explanation that takes a heck ton of research. Or just being an all-around the Phoenix Force fanboy.

[@pictishwarrior1055]

I love how the comics shows you that none of them needs oxygen on the moon. Pretty cool abilities they all gained.

[@t.l.5597]

Blue side of the moon

[@BranMat]

Thank you Rob!!! Man from Messiah Complex to maybe Uncanny X-Men Vol. 6 is my favorite X-men stretch. I miss the days when Hope was just character development for Cable instead of being a total Mary Sue.

[@nathanadams5933]

watching this again to catch up because of the marvel snap season.

[@Lightningtiger101]

your videos are easy to understand and very well explained. i can't believe it took me this long to subscribe...... now i gotta go back and re-watch most of your videos..... ROBCORE MARATHOOOOOOOON!!! you need to have a booth at every comicon!!!!!!!!

[@bigcountry2191]

marvel heel turned cyclops so bad. Rob!!! you got to point that out man.

[@tri3183]

In this story Cyclops was the hero that Captain America never could be.

[@Ermac98]

Tri Vegan Really? In my opinion Cyclops is a huge Dick in this story. He also kida tried to make Hope to be his prisoner and he became the main villain of this story itself. Captain America in the over hand did the right thing and he wanted to be ready to stop a powerfull force because he know how dangerus the Dark Phoenix is really is.

[@tri3183]

Erez Mor Well I meant in the sense that he actually was in the process of fixing the problems of humans and mutants. To me I don't view Cap as this infalliable leader and great guy because of how apathetic he was to mutants and their issues. He totally typifies "the good person that does nothing" cliche in this context.

[@Ermac98]

Tri Vegan Actually Cap could do the world a better place if Cyclops would listen to him (by giving Hope to the Avengers) and the two groups (Avengers and X-men) together would Team up in order to stop the Dark Phoenix in a better way in the first place!

[@tri3183]

Erez Mor What I mean is while Cyclops and the other X-Men had the power of the Phoenix force they created an era of unprecedented peace, ended world hunger, etc while Cap fought them tooth and nail. It wasn't like they were doing bad things to the planet. Rob failed to mention that part in his video.

[@Ermac98]

Tri Vegan​ So tell me: Why Proffesor X, Magneto and rest of the X men ended up on the Avengers side? Did you forget that the Dark Phoenix makes the host to lose him mind? By the way, what is so spechial in Cyclops beside of sooting lasers from his eyes and having the "50 shades of Jean Grey"? Cap is a better leader than what Cyclops would ever be.

[@CyclopsWasRight]

Cyclops was right.. Iron Man, not so much.

[@hatendiscontent]

“Hey game grumps, love me, please love me” Dude.

[@juanmartini1989]

Cyclops looking fly with that Phoenix force

[@IllmaticD2theJ94]

That was a great breakdown! 👏👏👏👍

[@nicholasmoss6922]

X-Men 2nd coming got me back into comics , keep up the good work !

[@APIEngineering]

Hope was never a necessary character. They already had Rachel Summers. Remember her? The one that the Phoenix itself said is "the one true phoenix." ? The one who beat down Galactus like a red headed stepchild? Yeah, it's like that. (Excalibur #61) All they needed to do was have Rachel manifest the Phoenix force in front of the Avengers, and then they go "Oh Shit. She could be the next Dark Phoenix" And there you go.

[@marianne6440]

I think Jean Grey is the phoenix's favorite host (and then I have the impression that their farewells in The Return of Jean Grey support this) but Rachel is definitely the one who best managed the phoenix force and I find it really revolting that Bendis completely ignored this

[@galaxystellars5085]

@@marianne6440 Sorry if my comment sounded hostile i just founded stupid that Marvel completely ignored Rachel existence in favor of Hope Summers.

[@marianne6440]

@@galaxystellars5085 I agree

[@Jamal2223]

Can we get a video about how the MCU would bring in Namor?? I think it would be a good idea to introduce him in the second Black Panther movie. He can be the antagonist for that film that rolls into his own movie. Plus those are my two favorite comic book characters...

[@sjbrigante4845]

Wow you were completely on the mark

[@Jamal2223]

@@sjbrigante4845 lol I got lucky but I’m happy I did…

[@gabrieltone9634]

Thank You for doing AvX by far one of my favorite modern storylines.

[@ThePowerfulOne07]

Love this series! I went crazy collecting the variants 1:200 versions of the comics! Do more Phoenix content!

[@mac_ciavelli]

Scarlet Witch (House of M) vs Dark Phoenix (Jean Grey)

[@yakudde]

Максим Заславский What about adult Franklin Richard? A universal stand-off

[@resulnaki]

Максим Заславский dark phoenix easily. she is still multiversal. only difference, as white phoenix she has full control, but if she went full dark with no human emotionsn she would have destroyed the entire marvel continuity and just recreate it. she is that powerful. only one above all can stop her

[@Fernandopriet]

Scarlet Witch affect the multiverse too Dr strange and beast explain that

[@yahlihaham1798]

Максим Заславский if its a battle to the death, jean wins.. she cant die but if not to the death it could go either way

[@awokwok1029]

House of M is the strongest version of Wanda. You should have put her against White Phoenix of the Crown. Sure wanda has nothing against White Phoenix. Jean heals multiverse and recreate timeline itself.

[@TheYoungWolfI]

This is great. Really hoping you do more X-Men stuff. Especially Morrison's New X-Men, I'm having a hard time finding good reviews/coverage of that.

[@victorgonzalez2927]

I can't stand that Wolverine is on the New Avengers.

[@marcelsansalone3829]

Instead of the xmen* lol

[@jimmyboots2096]

They needed an avenger that wasn't a pussy. The Hulk was hardcore, but Captain America started crying, so now Hulk is gay too.

[@camm8642]

@@marcelsansalone3829 well he remained an xman the entire time but being an avenger turned him into a mary sue he lost an edge he used to have and his character while popular isn't as popular as he was during the heyday of the xmen lol....

[@ccutter2]

Yeah, it's awkward seeing Wolverine on the Avengers side

[@SuperJoshdave]

No one can

[@erfederizo]

The phoenix force don't just represent life, it also represents destruction.

[@yyy443]

its actually life death destruction and creation

[@jackreacherjedi4013]

can't wait for the second part, love the channel bro been subscribed for awhile and love the content!!

[@majinsole8554]

Phoenix 5 vs Jackson 5. Make it happen, Rob. ~_~

[@gqphoenixclops3056]

Make sure to show the panel of Cyclops materializing his suit like a Power Ranger

[@CyberChocolates]

Thanks for covering Avengers verses X-Men.

[@tedforrester1948]

Brilliant as always!

[@ssilva872]

I loved this!

[@scottofgreywaterwatch1298]

Great video man! A vs X was great I can't wait for part 2. Are you going to do an all-new x-men video? Keep up the great videos man

[@sumandark8600]

12:54 Last Stand you say? A video about X-Men...Oh God!!! I'm having flashbacks to 2006

[@nitrologly]

Xavier and Cyclops died during this event... RIP. Also Cyclops was right..

[@joshypolo]

cyclops didn't die during this event. He died from the terrigen mist.....

[@nitrologly]

+Bad Philospher It's a figure of speech. Bendis went on after this event to make Scott seem like a bad guy. Totally inconsistent with the character, and contrary to the over a decade of character building and bad assery that was Scott since I feel Joss Whedon's Astonishing X-Men run but I can understand how some might say even earlier than that. I.e. the actual character of Scott died during this event, and right before he got rid of the visor. I blame Bendis's admitted flaw of not reading previous runs of comics that takes over. He pretty much based the Cyclops he continued the X-Men with based off of AvX which was also an inconsistent portrayal of Scott b/c he was possessed by a universal all-powerful entity. *end rant*

[@joellacount5906]

nitrologly gave a like but could you point me toward those bendis quotes, it could solve many things. Also, argh, he skipped over those events up to avx like genisis was the only cause. Regardless, appreciate this channel even existing

[@joellacount5906]

nitrologly i still remember bendis saying in a podcast about a marvel retreat "i asked what prof x was doing..and suggested killing him...hickman was pissed..." and thats how we got beast in infinity. i love how much he planned ahead and imagine him just throwing away a wall of sticky notes n ideas of who the real killer is... Anyway, awesome with the quick reply. Rob seems to have good fans. Still team cyke :)

[@Ermac98]

nitrologly Really? In my opinion Cyclops is a huge Dick in this story. He also kida tried to make Hope to be his prisoner, became the main villain of this story itself and also killed Proffesor X. Captain America in the over hand did the right thing and he just wanted to be ready to stop a powerfull force because he know's how dangerous the Dark Phoenix is really is for the entire planet.

[@snakelikeme]

this would not have happened if they had listened to Scott.

[@marianne6440]

Yup Plus, in Secret Wars, he was possessed a second time by the phoenix but he never went mad (oddly enough, he was not surrounded by stupid Avengers and had Reed by his side aka the one who dropped Cap during the AvX conflict by claiming that it would be the Avengers' fault if the Phoenix Five went mad)

[@johnkaiser7060]

Really dig the longer vids rob

[@JustinWatts2012]

Thanks Rob!

[@rileymorris8916]

Love this

[@garygrandisonjunior2667]

Man do you realize how iconic your voice is to me?

[@ronaldthompson9298]

Thinks Rob I been waiting for you to cover AvX

[@kapkanthenapkan528]

13th great Vid man I love this story line 🙂🙃

[@gaucholoco1712]

For some reason i thought of this video after I watched Iron First season 2. As soon as they presented the idea that the power of the fist can be transfered all i could hear was Rob saying "Absolute power corrupts absolutely"

[@Nayops24]

14:33 , 17:00 , 21:48 I just made this version of Cyclops on my channel❗️ 3:48 I just got those glasses😎

[@VAULT-TEC_INC.]

Cyclops is wearing an itty bitty bikini bottom @17:18 and I can’t get the image out of my mind!

[@lokycat79]

Dude! I already read the story I own all the trades but I love you reading it I love you explaining it I love this video I cannot wait for part 2

[@travisdk84]

This is off topic, but did anybody else catch Rob going "YEAH SPIDERMAN!" in the latest homecoming trailer?

[@amartinez016]

YES! Thanks, Rob!

[@AinzOoalGoan]

#cyclopswasright I love that you are doing xmen, I agree with cyclops, at the time the avengers never did anything to gel alleviate the hatred towards mutants

[@synthzee]

my favorite Marvel arc, by far

[@chaoticallycalmcultistofch1580]

Love this. Just read ma first AvX. Cheers mate. Peace ✌

[@barttully586]

would love to see you guys do some what if videos on what you think would happen with things being different

[@jimmykrabclaw5732]

I would of preferred if the Xmen won. Of course marvel would want the avengers to win though.

[@joelmalacara80]

I have 2 questions: I thought scarlet witch was an extremely powerful magic user. If so, why is it that her spell only reduced the mutant population to 198? She said "no more mutants." Was it because she was sick?

[@microphonejacket]

Ya know, I never heard Rob say, "Lemme tell you something" explaining Marvel. Only with DC. LOL. DC is obviously his favorite. So is mine. But Spiderman will always be my favorite superhero!

[@DragonFist9323]

it was good to see DD in this event

[@thomaschu4812]

Thanks for doing this...

[@robertocolvard1923]

i hated this story, it single handedly made me quit marvel, it was worse than whar they did to Spider-Man and mj.. the Phoenix five was doing tons of benevolent things across the world and the avengers keep prodding them. i literally just started back trying to read marvel.

[@hermanjohnson9180]

roberto colvard lol. It was against everyone else's will! Wtf are you people not getting about this?

[@brandonjuno]

Herman Johnson Peace against your will, ooooh, how villainous.

[@stealthynaxo]

Brandon Juno *COUGH* *COUGH* Doctor Doom, the Emperor, Darkseid, Megatron. *COUGH* *COUGH*

[@Basedbrawler]

I could see this being a movie now because of the fox deal, and the X Men Dark Pheonix movie coming out. Damn, Marvel is about to become more interesting in the years to come.

[@xxgreedxx1]

Gratz to 1m subs you deserve it #Robcore

[@antyoung24]

I can't wait until the mcu gets their hands on the X-Men that way the popularity of the X-Men will rise again and we will possibly get good stories again

[@MrSeerV]

I think it's interesting that in the latest Thor issues that the Phoenix force has some sort of link to the Shi'ar pantheon. It will be interesting to see if that get followed up on.

[@MrSeerV]

I like the idea that there some sort of cosmic destiny between the summers-grey family, the Shi'ar and the phonics force.

[@Bren688]

Haven't read a comic for 30 years but these posts make me want to start. Has anyone got any tips on where to start? I'm on a budget but would still prefer actual comic recommendations rather than reading online

[@mr.raccoon6344]

Lolololollololooooooloooooooooollolol

[@joemagnum611]

Jean was actually Xavier's first student

[@joemagnum611]

@Megan Todd it was actually Jean but she was having to much trouble controlling her powers so he had to work with her in isolation before he could introduce her to the team

[@jaylenemery5443]

That moment you were ear,y but you got a 30sec video

[@jaylenemery5443]

Early*

[@PathsUnwritten]

4:01 "You're not even a mutant anymore, Charles" ...What is Cyclops talking about?

[@johnkeeton8119]

This is how you job out Marvel’s top team, cause you don’t own the movie rights.