Omega/Beyond Omega Level: Marquis of Death | Comics Explained

[@ultron-5600]

This storyline gives this quote a whole new meaning: “It was, is, and always will be Doom who pulls the strings.” - Victor Von Doom

[@user7520]

Ultron-5 a w a

[@killuswayygaming]

Is doom the marquis?

[@ceesno9955]

Doom has been alive 65 million plus years old. He knows it all.

[@ceesno9955]

@@killuswayygaming don't think so. Because Doom kills him. He is the assistant.

[@shum8104]

@@ceesno9955 yea, you can pretty much regard this story as non canon. dr doom would not be defeated in any subsequent stories if he indeed had 65 millions plus years of experience.

[@MisterTwoScoops]

So the Marquis of Death is what happens when a fan gets involved in the Marvel Universe? Since it's clear that the One Above All is the writers themselves.

[@klutzmtg2310]

@Galva Tron Except Beerus is not bad writing and has a unique character centered around him as does Whis even if we don't get a backstory behind them. Jiren had potential but because of time constraints they ruined him. Nothing wrong having badass and super powerful characters in anime, comics, etc. Marquis of Death is a great character and there is so much they could still do with him. His powers though ridiculous perfectly fit the Marvel Universe and let's the writer have a lot of fun doing things you might never have expected. His story is great.

[@ChimpingBulldog]

@NVRØ TØXXYN i can.

[@2phonebabykeem913]

Klutz MtG he seems too hard to write with, it’s like a Madara situation if you’ve ever watched Naruto. Those guys are just way too powerful to let them lose in a believably way so they lose to plot armor and it tends to sour the entire story/character

[@MrDLM-mg4rn]

​@Galva Tron DB is already a bad writing story, always adding power up every single time just for Goku to win against enemies that outclass him in every way I guess that's shounen type of story. It's weird the best arcs are the one where he cannot defeat his enemies.

[@acronyx991]

@Galva Tron Beerus, Whis and even Jiren had amazing writing... For one arc they created a character that was loved but at the same time had to be hated but not good nor bad. Just a guy that wanted to test his power and help his universe to survive. ONE arc.

[@jerryjezzaberry5009]

Doom at the end “I’m going home, if you bother me you’ll cease to exist” Everyone else “uhhh okay Victor.....want some welcome home presents ?”

[@sagedavidelia8985]

😂😂

[@DanialTarki]

Hehehe

[@Mysteri0usChannel]

I feel like the Marquis of Death is a metaphor for the bloodlust of the fans

[@jmorel42]

Definitely

[@kaoset1237]

Yes

[@fuzzypanda2804]

O damn, your right. If The One is the writers then the marquis is the fans.

[@Adam-wy7mj]

Or you could be over thinking it and it's just a fun comic

[@markboston9303]

Very Josh Whedon like storyline

[@zencoyotegrimgrin]

I love how passionate this guy is about comics. Does a great job with his videos, and isn't obnoxious like most KZbin stars.

[@neku2741]

wake up, he just read you a comic book that you can read yourself

[@mystuff99]

Neku but it’s the way he articulates his thoughts about the comics that draws me to his videos

[@andykapsar4667]

and after all the years hes said hes been reading them, he still gets this excited about new material. true passion

[@OmegaTryce]

Indeed, I enjoyed the great narration of this video, its' intensity.

[@Bwern]

His laugh sure is

[@koolkid121ful]

Hes more powerful than himself He literally caught himself in a paradox that turned his own ego into his death

[@justarandom-ij2hn]

Damn dats somethin right there

[@slothytoffeeuk]

Doom was his apprentice, got his heart turned to stone and sent back to the dinosaur's, came back millions of years later to kill a watcher and his master... Dr Doom is one bad ass motherfucker 😎

[@ThePokemaniac77]

Jesus Mangas most of doom's defeats was caused by him being so arrogant , i bet he can beat all of those guys if he kept his chill..

[@UnifiedEntity]

Jesus Mangas Because unlike Void, this idiot Marquis sends him back ALIVE through time instead of killing his ass. Now he just played himself for billions of years in the making

[@mikailkhan9166]

Marquis could have just waved his hand to make doom die, but he wanted to show off

[@JesusMangasJMG2797KingofKings]

RaginDXDemon Yeah that explains a lot but there's still one thing that bothers me about the Marquis and is that he was fooled.

[@MinscFromBaldursGate92]

We don't talk about Millar's FF run. Doom doesn't bow to no one.

[@xavierhickman1105]

But can he beat farmer with shotgun

[@bradpitt4445]

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[@bradpitt4445]

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[@bradpitt4445]

Xavier Hickman h(

[@bradpitt4445]

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[@fdgdfafassff]

@@bradpitt4445 this is disturbing

[@OldBloodRKR626]

Proof that Doctor Doom is still one of the Ultimate Badasses out there. Props man.

[@christiansaladaga8825]

Yeah the badass who fucked himself and got himself pregnant

[@0The_Farlander0]

uh, yeah? was that supposed to counter what abstract said?

[@justinnengel3473]

that was inside a hallucination, my dude. One in which he didn't know the identity of the guy.

[@cheeseburgerfreddy6350]

Simply-Abstract He's a badass but he had to wait a million years to get his revenge,Even after learning all that Dark magic he still wasn't compared to the Marquis and only finished him off.

[@dayoldeggplant]

Doom is a weak loser. Too many people saying he's cool. He sucks.

[@michaelrazavian4403]

Hold up. If doom was the apprentice, right? Then that means he was impersonating susan storm, yeah? And they were expecting a kid...so basically doom *fucked himself*.

[@northamericandeer1429]

So is it incest or masturbation?

[@Peekoh]

My mind hurts.

[@Wubba83]

ITS MAGIC!

[@VexylObby]

Frosty Gulag "Ugh, I knew this was coming, but I have to do it to get my revenge..." *Has sex with self that will eventually have sex with itself. Yes, the purpose of fate is to go fuck yourself.

[@Nebukanezzer]

That was an illusion.

[@LoudMystic2159]

maybe the living tribunal saw how powerful he was and was like "yo i like my life"

[@thedog367]

LMAO

[@michaelingber1528]

That's exactly what happened....

[@UnwantedGhost1]

I wouldn't blame him.

[@Samurai_79]

"I've seen demensions where your gods are insects."

[@evanabbott2737]

Mark Millar man....😁👍

[@akaurdad9790]

Ok

[@ChimpingBulldog]

Neckbeard dialogue.

[@yohanlov3iswhalinnn738]

Where was this seen?

[@tanner201x8]

@@ChimpingBulldog How

[@thevoidlookspretty7079]

Kills a god of gods, and then tells his enemies: “I’m tired. I think I’m going home.”

[@originalfitzy5567]

Forest Gump be like:

[@Smasherverse]

That moment when you thought MCU Thanos was strong...

[@concept5631]

Life be like that sometimes.

[@Snazzy12341]

Screw you guys, I'm going home

[@KingOfBattle86]

@@Smasherverse no one thought the MCU thanos was strong

[@pabloskigarczkoski2233]

Beyond omega level: Stan lee

[@popcornfilms1]

The one above all eh? Heh heh

[@nightcedargarden]

Beyond omega level : Jack Kirby

[@mydog1871]

Beyond omega level: Eraser

[@ohno8686]

Beyond Omega Level:Pencil

[@aganya7046]

young kim Beyond omega level: fineliner

[@Anonymous_Throwaway]

So, Marquis of death is The One Below One

[@joetowers4804]

Is Then Doom the 0ne Below the One Below the One Above All? Or should he be the One Above All Who Are Below the One Below the One Below the One Above All?

[@PhilNEvo]

​@@joetowers4804 Well, we actually don't know where Dr.Doom stands in terms of power-ranking, because we don't know how weak the Marquis of Death became after fighting Clyde Wyncham-- It might be that the beyonders, owen reece & the living tribunal are still stronger than what Dr. Doom has managed to become, meaning, that he wouldnt necessarily be even close to be the one below the one below the one above all :b

[@joetowers4804]

@@PhilNEvo so you're saying that Doom is actually One Who Is Above Some But Not All But Still Below The One Who Is Below One Who Is Above All? Damn.

[@PhilNEvo]

@@joetowers4804 Yes.

[@masterrserch3971]

@@joetowers4804 this is the single greatest thread in KZbin history lolol

[@Sewblon]

The Living Tribunal didn't intervene because The Marquis of Death doesn't use magic. His powers are mutagenic. They came to him naturally.

[@gregorybrouckaert3858]

And if he can annihilate entire multiverses with a wave of his hand then he's more powerful than the beyonders so maybe the living tribunal didn't show up cause he was afraid of the ass whooping he'd receive.

[@warrenmcfadden3918]

@@gregorybrouckaert3858 agreed if rob says he's stronger than molecule man who he and the beyonder both stronger than the living tribunal marquise of death would just slaughter the big oscar trophy

[@banditgotgame1721]

Molecule man used to be stronger than TLT but idk about now

[@SuperMontsta]

@@banditgotgame1721 No, Molecule Man was never stronger than LT. MM had a sample of Beyonder Power. The Beyonder was a child of the Beyonders. Took multiple Beyonders (adults) to take down the LT.

[@SuperMontsta]

The LT doesn't just intervene for magical stuff. LT is omniversal and shows up for ominversal threats. Perhaps he didn't show because he knew due to time travel, MoD would be defeated before he could do anything, so in reality, the bad MoD never has a chance to destroy universes. Much like when Thanos got the Heart of the Universe and saw there was a flaw in the universe, so after tearing the universe apart he rebuilt it without the flaw...then felt as if he was someone still a pawn and used (by the One Above All) to fix the universe the whole time. Since that's what they wanted and knew was to happen, they didn't intervene with Thanos gaining ultimate power then because that was their design. This could have been also (LT and OaA exist beyond time)

[@Sonic546416]

I like how Doctor Doom literally held a grudge that spanned millions and millions of years, just so he could get the final word in and shout "SILENCE", killing the bastard who made him go the past in the first place!

[@moonknight1016]

*Marquis humiliates doom and throws him into the past* *Doom survives to tell the story and takes over Marquis body than seperates him from Marquis and destroys him* SEE, THIS IS THE REASON WHY DOCTOR DOOM IS THE MOST DANGEROUS VILLAIN IN THE MARVEL UNIVERSE. NOT ONLY DID HE ONCE BECAME THE RULER OF THE MULTIVERSE, BUT HE HAS BEATEN A MULTIVERSE LEVEL THREAT! CONSIDER THANOS A PUSSYCAT COMPARED TO DOOM.

[@Blockshot16]

Tank HeavyBlast he only beat him because he was about to die anyways lmao, he literally beat a Marquis that was on his death bed, wow insane...

[@brothersofwrath4785]

Tank HeavyBlast cough cough. .. king thanos rapestoms

[@deuntaethomas2395]

When did Doon rule the multiverse

[@jaren9382]

Deuntae Thomas maybe he's mentioning the secret wars

[@deuntaethomas2395]

Jaren that's a fragmented multiverse though. Not even a complete multiverse.

[@DutchDeathGod]

Marquis of Death was only there to make Doom look even more badass.

[@SuperShanko]

Doom: And. He. Failed. Why? Because I'm Doo-- **Batarang to head!!** ..... The fuck was that?

[@Raffney]

@@SuperShanko Nine Pack

[@thetestinggrounds7855]

Lesson learned. Don't fuck with Doom.

[@wateryourplants5771]

Doom would wipe Batman

[@darthsoulglow321]

SuperShanko batsrang hits the the doom bot square in the face. As doom Spears behind Batman and whispers . “Don’t drop the soap.”

[@thaddelicious852]

One of the best Doom entries. Such a complex character. It seems that with more power acquired, the less personality an entity expresses, such as the Marquis. They became more akin to a force of nature, an abstraction, or a concept than personable. Then there’s Doom. Given that he’s motivated by his own ego, it makes sense he’d retain his personal will. Dr. Doom probably possesses the most powerful ego in any medium of entertainment.

[@Byronic19134]

Not ego but willpower there is a difference. The difference between ego and will is that the ego is blind, while the will has a vision. Will has its source in the pure Self. Ego springs from a false sense of identification (avidya) with the external world, and is usually concerned with preserving self-image and self-identity. Anywho, when MoD threw Doom 65 million years into the past I thought, Pff you think that's going to kill Doom. I thought time travel or Kang would be MoD undoing tho not a 65 million-year grudge. Amazing.

[@travz21]

It's weird that you never heard about this story until now. I've never read comics but this was the first Doctor Doom story I heard about. A dude that gets sent back in time 65 million years, teaches himself magic and how to survive, and literally waits millions of years to get back to the present day so he can kill the person who sent him there. Truly the most badass character I've read about. I've been fascinated by Doom for the last couple years.

[@Shendue]

You are clearly new to Marvel comics. You should read Doom 2099. And the original Secret Wars. Doom is incredibly badass.

[@cleverersauce5796]

He already made a video about this at least 2 years ago. I don't know why he makes it seem like he hasn't talked about him before.

[@YeviCoulson]

marqui of death: *does all these things* rogue: *hugs him* marqui of death: *dies*

[@happytime2781]

hahah good one :D

[@TeranIcer]

LoL I think Rogue would O.D. & die from that...

[@blain147]

@@TeranIcer Exactly

[@kaoset1237]

Well it is true...those tities are to die for;p

[@tyrone1356]

Maybe if hope summers but rogues kind of weak

[@daemonblackfyre3238]

Doom is badass.

[@StarboyXL9]

Daemon Blackfyre Personally I'd like to see Doctor Doom discover the Doomknight armor from the AQ multiverse, then he truly would be Doom incarnate

[@ameteuraspirant]

I'll be honest aq's doomknight armor isn't nearly as cool looking as doom's simple tunic and armor. too many frills and dull reddish colors.

[@enamouredwiddit]

Are you guys talking about adventure quest

[@lebronjamesharden7171]

Sage le Fleur lmfao

[@NinjaSushi2]

It was a good game.

[@simpleclonetrooper2740]

10:31 WHAT A TWIST.

[@MunaUwanamodo]

Is nobody going to talk about how Doom lived through all that, waited tens of millions of years to trick his killer into training him, and then got revenge by dealing the final blow? Or is that just par for the course for him?

[@MrKidgod345]

Muna Uwanamodo lol it really blew my mind!!!

[@KenBeeKJV]

Nah that's how just Doom rolls, the reveal wasn't totally surprising.

[@1Piecer]

That's some Indian revenge movie plot level.

[@SuperShanko]

This is the same person that got the power of the Beyonder, kicked the collective asses of the universe over the course of 400 years or so, fucked up Earth in the process and...... reset everything and became a laborer. It's like Batman said for the Joker, only the things he does make sense to him.

[@randolphcarter6197]

Muna Uwanamodo in most of his origin stories he travels back in time to learn the very first magic and then travels back by waiting. Badass.

[@MarkoCreate]

Interestingly enough...a duke is the highest noble rank...followed by marquis. If you see it in terms of power he could be seen as second to the one above all and the living tribunal being the earl (the rank beneath marquis)

[@andy4274]

who's the king? the emperor? the god?

[@Lorenzo-bo7id]

LORD PAPI Stan lee

[@tammas1728]

If it was the duke of death it’d just be a car in gta

[@jomaamimulla1498]

i see u on the ML vid

[@ramonolivas5385]

“Man let me tell you something” it always gets me 😂😂😂

[@franklinrichard3712]

🤣🤣🤣🤣

[@duditsgrey5148]

I love the dark side of the comics when they start killing off heros. It's a nice break from the regular mundane hero saves the day stuff.

[@samtitan1321]

ikr i luv when knull destroys everyone including tearing Sentry apart

[@3sixgod36]

​@@samtitan1321Bro literally Un-alived him the same way sentry did to Ares 😂

[@qoisant1015]

Weak, squirrel girl would totally obliderate him

[@zboy1152]

XD

[@blue9139]

Logic 101

[@jacksecomb4916]

squirrel girl is the one above all of course she would win lol

[@00Grimreaper00]

My boi shaggy claps

[@Frostedlyre]

Yes

[@LuizFernando-cu2xy]

This marquis of death looks badass

[@matthewwilliams977]

Luiz Fernando .

[@Enzo_Matrix92]

Looks like Judge Death.

[@warrmachine1]

from since when the dead endorse the brushing of teeth? i was always under the impression that Rot and Decay were the twin babies of Death

[@foxeh123]

Looks like Saurons voice.

[@HKRazieL]

it's weird to think about it but actually when you're as powerful as that thing somehow looks and hygiene don't really matter to you anymore

[@Sanshahashattan]

Doom is an inspiration for everyone!. No matter how much he loses, how much he fails to achieve his goals due to his rivals: he keeps going and trying again and again.

[@benbenson5776]

say that to all the villains the marquis just killed without giving them a chance.

[@andy4274]

yeah... next time i get thrown 65 million years back into time with acid blood and a heart turned into stone in the middle of a school of massive shark dinos, i'll be thinking what would doom do?

[@LightYagami-ik1cg]

To be honest he sounds cool on paper but this is another storywhere my main question is why did he not just erase them from existence..... How was there really even a "battle"

[@kavinkumar407]

Entertainment, he wanted to toy around with the Fantastic Four, this is how all OP villains die (excluding time travel)

[@timlobiondo5777]

@Dao Child Rumbling Hope Close...lazy plot.

[@SquareInsider]

I just realized something; this is pretty much what happens when someone from our actual universe goes to any comic universe. They are immediately the most powerful ever, with the ability to retcon, write and make comics. Same thing that happened with Superboy Prime....who came from our universe, the universe of no super heroes. Pretty much he is just a comic book fan/writer.

[@Kilamanjaro009]

Marquis of Death is stupid powerful, but this story is ridiculous as hell.

[@nolovedivision3882]

The writers were fucking high and bored

[@scepta101]

I love the story

[@mihawk508]

Doctor doom gets sent back in time but because of magic he survived and lived for millions of years and meets the man who sent him back in time who becomes his apprentice without him knowing meets an alternate version of himself impersonates Susan Storm gets pregnant with his own child and eventually kills his master

[@DimiArt]

@@mihawk508 😂😂😂😂 the fact that he impregnates himself and betrays himself, and that he actually kept his mind set millions of years.

[@Resjek]

@@mihawk508 ah what the fuck

[@johnweaver311]

In Marvel, every other character can warp reality.

[@amortality999]

Not like this though...

[@mbailey8790]

Eljon Lushi lol what do you mean ? You can either warp reality or you can’t.

[@imtrynasmash2857]

@@mbailey8790 yeah but there are levels to reality warping

[@sl8103]

True

[@DeathBringer769]

Not all reality warpers are equal in ability... ;)

[@hectorandem2944]

The idea of Dr.Doom at the end saying: _"A'ight, I'm heading to the crib. Act up and get smacked up"_ has me rolling 🤣😭

[@MidTierVillain]

I remember this one too, it was insane- especially the Doom twist. I thought that was very unique.. it shows Doom is a true tactician; methodical.

[@MidTierVillain]

Turtles day out lol yea he holds a mean grudge, to wait THAT long to take revenge!? That's God Tier Revenge!

[@jaredcress4328]

definition of a supervillain: One who is well skilled in destruction as well as buildin'

[@jlr726]

Doom gets all the good stories lol

[@32Mihailo]

Doom is Joker of Marvel :D

[@p.d.l7023]

Yet he is terrible in every movie appearance. Ironic.

[@combatfolk5643]

Paul Long It's not ironic, it's fox.

[@nathanalexandre9043]

It's ironic :)

[@multiplayerrkmedia1764]

People that can defeat -Thanos(even with the gauntlet)- Marquis of Death: 1- Dr. Doom 2. One Above All 3. Hawkeye (After Stretching) 4. Bruce Banner(After Assembling all 7 PHDs) 5. Shaggy 6. Duolingo Bird 7. Squirrel Girl 8. Some dude with a rocket launcher

[@kamikazereloaded3775]

You forgot Ant-Man ;)

[@winter6407]

You forgot farmer with a shotgun

[@pleaseflamemessageme]

Which Shaggy?

[@sus4644]

@@pleaseflamemessageme the jedi one

[@sophyjacks6611]

You forgot darth Vader with all his original limbs

[@aserodriguez1425]

He's so powerful that theonly person who can stand against him is his younger self

[@anatoldenevers237]

Ase Rodriguez and they use gods as pawns

[@jessecutts4868]

Thank you to the person who told Rob about this character, very cool to learn about this.

[@the_versai]

Okay but can the Marquis of Death see why kids love the taste cinnamon toast crunch??

[@kashsmith6181]

Avatar Vern It's in the swirls!

[@mrevilducky]

Sugar

[@MrGeorgeFlorcus]

Easy, all he has to do is create a universe (surely if he can destroy so many universes he can create them, he is so far above Franklin Richards after all) in which a younger version of him already possess that knowledge, then use his powers to destroy that version of himself, but not before extracting the information from his mind and giving it to himself. IT'S SO SIMPLE.

[@PapaBradford]

Sugar and cinnamon swirls in every bite. They answer their own question.

[@steptimusheap8860]

Does he know how many licks it takes to get to the center of a tootsie pop?

[@shadow19121]

Marvel has too many of these characters that exhibit power beyond the cosmic level Aspects that them dying should be impossible.

[@mydog1871]

Unless they basically kill themselves 🤯

[@vanthursday]

Plot Armor

[@capolean2902]

@@vanthursday bad writing probs lol

[@haikgargaloyan297]

that's the problem with writing within an unending universe. in order for something to stand out you have to keep bumping up the bullshit level. "he's the universe itself" "he's time itsels" "he existed before the universe did" etc, etc. I'm more amazed at how the writer's minds aren't imploding trying to figure out a semi-believable way to end the story. similar to trying to figure out how you can believably dumb down the Flash to make any encounter last longer than a nanosecond

[@MidnightRah]

It's this "New Marvel" rend, Anything after 2905 isn't an established anything.. just crap. Why you get Wolverine/Hulk Comnbos now who just pop out of nowhere then die for "story"

[@OceanFragments]

Marquis of Death appears to be the Marvel equivalent to OG Superboy, in that he's a author self-insert from the real world with limitless power over creation.

[@SeraphimxSins]

Makes sense, when you think about how he's from a world that's outside of the frame of the marvel universe, and even has the power to alter the reality of *that* world. He basically has author status. It's really not being powerful in the traditional sense, so much as it is authority over existence itself.

[@joshuaclay3751]

Well said

[@Shreds-of-Lead]

I don’t understand how anyone wins against someone who, Upon seeing you, instantly creates a reality under his control and you don’t know any difference. 😂

[@jorienwachukwu466]

@@Shreds-of-Lead Plo

[@Montaq_]

@@Shreds-of-Lead Step One: Be Doctor Doom.

[@felixhong]

Wait - so....Dr. Doom from the past (disguised as the apprentice disguised as Susan Storm) fake married Dr. Doom from the future....? Is this good writing?

[@dustinlake1101]

Felix Hong um no that was just a vision it never actually happened MoD just made him see that neither of them actually did anything

[@kyriss12]

It's official doctor doom is such a narcissist that the only person he could ever fall in love or show sexual interest in is another version of himself.

[@SuperShanko]

Crazy, amiright?

[@shedd45]

Sounds like Donald Trump.

[@MannySanchezPhotography]

So, Clyde Winchem = Comic Book Writter Marquis of Death = Writter writting himself into a corner.

[@travisoliver6741]

Manny Sanchez So true. At least it was a better ending than Matthew Malloy.

[@silverdeathgamer2907]

In relation to Matthew Malloy if they truly wanted to make it about Xavier not being who everyone thought he was they should have made him actually directly kill Matthew Malloy(it would have been more shocking) instead of the bullshit ending or they could made him live in isolation or he could have been mentored by Xavier so many better options.

[@RessG]

To be honest, the first thing I would do If I have that kind of power is summoned chick from the comic and get laid.

[@MannySanchezPhotography]

SquirrelCake Una disculpa hermano, inglés no es mi lengua.

[@theob1455]

Marvel: we need to make someone even more powerful. Employee 1: what about god. But the god of Stan Lee. Employee 2: that’s over powered. Employee 1: well... we have doom

[@evanabbott2737]

Hehehehehehe

[@johnnyshores6392]

Well we got doomsday

[@simplyoscar3057]

Weird thing is the Marvel Multiverse has an infinite amount of universes, which means that SOMEWHERE, theres an alternate Marquis of Death thats still alive

[@kchorton9007]

Retro Big Mac and who is more powerful

[@simplyoscar3057]

Mr Red Whale exactly

[@sxpro41]

I actually don't think there are infinite universes, I think there are several but not infinite hence why the destruction of universes poses a problem.

[@cappinfn5305]

Except in the universe where that isnt true.

[@MyIpadMail]

Tri Taco doesn't work like that.

[@bluhmer1990]

I've always found the idea of characters like Franklin Richards and the Marquis of Death completely asinine. Not because of their power, but because of why they have that power. They are mutants, and that's all the explanation we are given. Why is this an issue? Because mutants are the result of the Celestials experimenting with the genes of humanity. Why is THIS an issue? Because they are way too powerful for that explanation. Being planet level and even galaxy level is acceptable to an extent. But to be such massive multi-versal threats like Franklin Richards and the Marquis of Death is so ridiculous because that power is so far above the Celestials it's not even funny. The Marquis of Death may even be able to take down the Living Tribunal. The power of these guys being so far above the cosmic entities when they are simply the result of the Celestials experimenting with humans thousands of years ago is just dumb in my opinion. TL;DR Guys being this powerful simply by being mutants is dumb to me.

[@mowmow4617]

bluhmer1990 true but I like Franklin

[@joyalthomas7601]

They are mutants bcoz marvel was too lazy to come up with a proper origin

[@Shendue]

I think it was fine when it was just Franklin. Even Phoenix wasn't really a mutant, but a powerful alien entity. Franklin was an anomaly born with an absurdly strong power. I mean, there has to be one mutant that is stronger than every other one, right? Making it a little kid is funny, because of the contrast, and also convenient, because he couldn't really control it. Now it's friggin' cosmic level mutants everywhere. And to compensate, regular X-Men have to be upgraded at least to omega level. Even Iceman is an omega level mutant. You get an omega level power, that guy gets an omega level power, everyone gets an omega level power!

[@rpscorp9457]

@@Shendue "power creep" literally. Yeah, its why i dont pay much attention to comics anymore. Same thing in DC with Dr. Manhattan. Dc isnt quite as bad as marvel at this though.

[@Kilamanjaro009]

Marvel is very lazy, look at Sentry, Hyperion, and Blue Marvel. Even the idea of the dark phoenix possessing mutants is stupid.

[@k2d10tode11]

so R. Richard is even worse than the worst villain because of his stupid sense of justice? multiverses got destroyed because he couldnt perform a task with 3 choices to save the multiverse. doesnt that make him the worst villain?

[@themysteriousretrogamer9655]

k2d10tode11 would you kill your three choices: your best friend, your son, or a mentally handicapped man?

[@k2d10tode11]

well. there is something called the sanctity of life. meaning every life is sacred. but does everybody have to die because of one person? isnt where the phrase 'for the greater good' comes from? for example wouldnt Richard have killed the mentally handicapped man? since it is actually him who is destroying multiverses right now?

[@WindedLane]

k2d10tode11 Reed didn't kill those other universes. The Marques of Death did. Who's the bad guy in that?

[@k2d10tode11]

nah the point is, he had the chance to reverse it but he refused to which to me makes him worse.

[@WindedLane]

k2d10tode11 Yeah, that doesn't fly because it's still not him doing the destroying. The Marquis has the same opportunity that he gave Reed *plus* he can simply choose not to do what he did. It's always going to be him with the greater fault and all the blame.

[@hash527]

Seen this video 4-5 times now over the years. Still my favorite Comics Explained video. Awesome story.

[@DallasHustla2000]

So the real question is is The Marquis of Death truly dead or is he just testing Dr Doom and the world?

[@cheeseburgerfreddy6350]

DallasHustla2000 Nah, He dead.

[@robertobravo5732]

CHEESE BURGER FREDDY that means he'll be resurrected

[@Boxedpapi]

DallasHustla2000 Illuminati

[@yukisatsoka4146]

DallasHustla2000 "are you happy?" *rips off face to reveal it's the apprentice of the apprentice*

[@1Piecer]

Wait and see some of his Ass cells are gone into another dimension and then resurrect himself. Maybe he hate the world because he have a flat ass.

[@royrogersmcfreely9551]

i recomended this guy like 2 months ago, i tought he never do it, im really glad he did

[@jerredbosschieter5717]

Are we just gonna gloss over the fact that the maquis of death and superboy prime are from realities that are suppose to be our earth and have zero weaknesses and super powerful?

[@MrWolfchamp-xi3cu]

Here's Bosschieter Well that's usually how it is. Characters from the prime earth are usually way beyond the comic characters. They crossover from one reality to another reality where they're virtually omnipotent and omniscient due to the fact that they come from the reality that spawned the comic book reality. So beings from the prime reality have a huge amount of influence over the comics reality since the comics reality is basically a fantasy. And fantasies can be easily manipulated and changed. So an average Joe in our world can end up being a beyonder in the comics since the comic book reality can be easily manipulated by real world people. But other characters like Ambush bug hail from the real world and yet can't affect the comic world at all. I guess it requires a level of awareness that Ambush bug just doesn't have or is limited by the writers discretion

[@spinnirack3645]

Yes

[@nottyseel949]

I love how excited Rob gets talking about these topics. It's infectious. For me, I never find the power levels that impressive because they have no organic nature to them. It's just written, this person killed that one and blew everything up etc... So it's almost watered down like when children play and constantly just keep changing the rules to make themselves win. A difference, for example, is World Breaker Hulk. He has a descriptive power source so it's easier to understand his power level increasing in a realistic (if fantastical) way that doesn't just seem tacked on. But they never have a good description for the source of power, so it just makes everyone seem weak. Like Odin, being an All-Father, but then... nope he's just not because someone is just stronger. Well you already used the word "almighty" so now the sense of power in that word is lost. It's kinda like printing money, where it no longer matters if you say you have $10 billion. It's cool when they describe immense powers, but it's so clearly just to create excitement, and then it will never ever make sense when the person is defeated. So far to date, it never has, so it also deflates the interest in the story. That's why God-level powers are hard for stories because if God is involved it's GG. Literally, that's what the word means. I would love to see something explain how the reality-warp power manipulators struggle against each other, gain energy, and lose energy. That would help give the characters and story weight and drama.

[@simpleclonetrooper2740]

this whole story is like wtf

[@scodiofficer0012]

He's EXTREMELY Powerful Because He Can Actually Manipulate Reality In The "Real" World (Our Universe) So Being In The Marvel Multiverse Is Like 3 Dimensional Being On A 2 Dimensional Plane.

[@R3troRage]

I feel like Marvel's biggest downside as of now is their power creep. They've been doing what they do for so long, its been unavoidable to escalate situations to a place where even someone as unreasonably powerful as the Marquis doesn't seem all that special anymore. Like, Marvel set really food signposts for power with Galactus, Eternity, The Living Tribunal, etc, but when you have characters just routinely trouncing these guys it stops being that jaw-dropping moment. I definitely don't know how one fixes that, but still, it's kind of a bummer.

[@connor3194]

Yah, I miss the days when I was younger and Galactus was the most powerful and awesome character ever.

[@gilian2587]

Thanatos ends the omniverse. The omniverse is brought back into existence by Thu; who traps Thanatos in a reforming meta-omniverse, where Thanatos is left to believe that itself is the one and only.

[@indiefruit]

At least it's easy to ignore with Marvel. If you don't want to address the ridiculously OP characters/canon you can.

[@gilian2587]

Not even ridiculously OP characters are immune to Plot Armour.

[@SeraphimxSins]

It's really not THAT often.

[@wendellschannel515]

The Marquis of Death made Galactus Hawkeye

[@TerlieJean]

The Marquis of Death used Tsukiyomi with no Sharingan... this guy is easily on par/above The Living Tribunal

[@__Ke20__]

Wow I asked for this video for a long time !

[@kohthefacestealer9289]

Terler I love your fucking comment

[@louiemimis598]

LooooL. He even used amaterasu on Dr. Doom xD

[@kohthefacestealer9289]

Ηλιας Μιμιλιδης Fuck yeah

[@chrisrod1385]

Terler Love your video's rob btw how powerful is cyclops

[@b3n9y74]

This is what annoys me about Marvel. You've got characters like the Marquis of Death, who are these insanely powerful cosmic entities, and yet, a lot of them are basically just Humans... HUMANS!? I mean ffs, the Marquis of Death sounds almost like Nyarlathotep from the Cthulhu Mythos, and he's a HUMAN?!!? No. just... no. Awesome vid tho dude, keep it up!

He's a mutant. However he was tbe only one with superpowers in his universe so i guess that has something to do with him being insanley powerful.

[@grandmasterjayd1184]

@ Comics have taught me that if you're the only person with powers in your universe it's likely you have multiuniversal plus levels of power. Think Superboy Prime for another example.

[@Malkgoblin]

He's the only powered person in the "real world" as it's written. So pretty much like the one above all since that represents the writers. Basically just fanfic god. Only stopped by a fan brought in to the comics, himself lol

[@lucas-xf7rc]

You mean like dr Manhattan...

[@MrZomg17]

Ignited all the stars in the universes and killed absolutely everyone...............and Doom stood up to the Marquis.................. 👀

[@alexp.7068]

Marquis was about to die. Doom had to wait a LONG ass time to be able to do this. Any other moment and he would be obliterated.

[@MatthanGriggs]

Rob...this guy is insane and this story is by far one of the best I've read. As usual, Great job, Rob.

[@MrShika07]

Rob i kno you might not see this but your videos have legit got me threw some long hard days!! i seriously appreciate what you do for us!! Rob Corps. for life

[@hotheadblazen3835]

MrShika07 that's true, and that's also what she said

[@rubinhannah162]

amen

[@bobafett7613]

lol im sitting hear baked thinking that exact thing then i see you comment!! this is by far my favorite channel!!

[@ykarrtyhetrick8196]

MrShika07 the marqi of death is actually more powerful than the one above all

[@ykarrtyhetrick8196]

oh and let's give marqi the nickname the other above one

[@Danceofmasks]

Pretty sure the most powerful mutant ever is Squirrel Girl. There's nothing more powerful than plot armour.

[@fernybern]

Danceofmasks its squirrel armor

[@dustinspencer7215]

She is powerful...close to All-powerful...BUT STILL DWARFED BY DOOM!!! EVEN MIGHTY SQUIRREL GIRL TWITCHES HER TAIL IN FEAR OF THE LIVING DURACEL THAT IS... DOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOMMMMMMMM! That is all.

[@Grnvolpe]

Popularity. I'm sure Spider-Man and Batman could beat the Marquis of Death

[@fawkesthedreg]

lol she's not a mutant tho?? I don't think so??? XD maybe not

[@HeilRay]

Danceofmasks Comic book sales is the ultimate power.

[@Deathstorm927]

Seeing that the marquis of death didn't know dr doom was his secret apprentice i bet he dosen't have omniscience

[@IzumiDaniel]

Thank god,

[@vn9574]

Even the one above all doesn't have omnipotence, how would marquis of death get it

[@colorred3319]

@@vn9574 isn't the one above all basically god? i thought he was the most powerful being in Marvel Comics.

[@lucas-xf7rc]

@@vn9574 of course the One above all has... Tf you talking about

[@pleasedont7439]

@@lucas-xf7rc he was nerfed.

[@Joseph_Drew_III]

14:13 We actually do have the answer. The Ivory Kings decreed That each and every Molecule Man would be alike.

[@simonrpires2336]

This guy is madness. But this comic shows how powerful dr. Doom is as well

[@fernybern]

Simon Pires No it shows how smart and capable he is

[@ThePokemaniac77]

Fernando Valles no, it shows that if he kept his chill and not bestupidly arrogant all the time he could win any fight

[@fernybern]

jayjay sevilla so like i said how capable he is... lol what was your point

[@ThePokemaniac77]

i know he's smart and capable and he knows it too and thats why he always loses because he's too arrogant to think he makes mistakes..

[@fernybern]

jayjay sevilla so your saying the same thing as i did but just pointing out flaws for whatever reason lol

[@Makayavellian]

Bro can we PLEASE get an in depth study on DOOM? Please! Please! Please!

[@isaacorellana1754]

horror show comics. The destiny of dr doom

[@honestreviews8048]

Yas

[@Dhilan100]

Is this version of Dr Doom the current state of Dr Doom? If so does that make him one of the strongest beings in the universe?

[@tmartin8888]

Just read Brubaker's "Books of Doom" :)

[@XodusOnan]

This is what happens when Marvel give their writers too much freedom. One of the main reasons why I stopped reading. Seems like the top level cosmic beings are useless now and gets killed off every other year by someone who shouldn't even be in their league. I'm sick of it

[@azrielslytherin2604]

XodusOnan the hell are you talking about.

[@datdamnkez]

Blah blah blah

[@scornbass1552]

Worst one upping business. Power levels that absurd just take away the tension. Nerf your heros and villains and the tension will be more personal, more palpable.

[@SasmakToy]

How about the Protege? Lol even non-cosmics have been wildly farfetched for a long long time.

[@scornbass1552]

One upping business. That's why I don't feel like getting into DC or Marvel.

[@ultroniumcol1808]

Take a shot every time he says “What we find out.”

[@yinn6258]

"never the less"

[@bent2461]

best version of dr.doom ever

[@isaacorellana1754]

Thats 616 doom aka normal doom.

[@cheeseburgerfreddy6350]

Isaac Orellana It is?

[@alerted0]

Isaac Orellana god .doom

[@andrewhyman3992]

So no ones mentioned that rob kind of looks like the comic book guy who was talking to Toby behind the counter at 1:57? lol

[@Furzkampfbomber]

_"Rob could sue and win"_ Considering the stupidity, unworldliness and disregard for normal human beings lifes of most western copyright laws, I am actually not sure of that. There is a story in Miguelanxo Prados comic book "The Daily Craze" that depicts just such a situation. A young woman dragged to court, because her life is supposed to be a plagiarization. Apparently some old fart once wrote a book, which was very bad and only sold 6 copies, but by some strange turn of events, the young woman is not only having the same name of the books protagonist, but is following the same main stages. In the end the court convicts her to pay a hefty compensation to the old bastard and gives her a week to change her name and profession. And looking at the world today, I am not entirely sure that this could not happen.

[@gilgamesh5450]

Andrew Hyman Oh my god?! It does.. LoL.

[@gordanator2060]

Its as the Marquis of Death willed it to be!!

[@luffytaro14]

Marquis of death pulling out the infinite tsukuyomi on em😂😂😂

[@taylor41585]

Lmao

[@Alatreon824]

Madara would be proud

[@kingdonnyj2745]

“Deadass, i was like 5 SECONDS?!” Who is this man? Itachi?

[@FireBomberBassist]

I love how excited you sound whenever you talk about this stuff.

[@vaettra1589]

So the Marquis of Death is a version of Matthew Malloy with a billion years of developing his powers.

[@vestrocity9561]

Vaettra No. The Marquis of Death can't bring him self back to life, whereas Matthew Malloy can.

[@Blockshot16]

The Meme Himself how do u know he can’t? Because the writers didn’t redirect him? I’m sure a being of his power could

[@vestrocity9561]

Austin Blochlinger It is never shown or stated that the Marquis of Death can bring anyone back to life. It is not even remotely hinted at. If it was, then I wouldn't have made my comment.

[@Blockshot16]

The Meme Himself I know but who really knows, he may be able to, like in the movie BvS Superman could have easily just destroyed Batman but he didn’t because of the producers, it could be the same here as in Marquis could have resurected himself but the writers didn’t do it because he has to die somehow

[@vestrocity9561]

Austin Blochlinger Fair enough, but there's still no evidence that he can so, he's not Matthew Malloy.

[@TraumaTrae]

I'm so glad you covered this, lol. This was my favorite Fantastic Four arc cause I love Doctor Doom so much.

[@mmmmgood7318]

Don't shoot me

[@MrBracey100]

Powerful as he was, Doom kicked his ass. Thats why Doom has always been my favorite villain along with Thanos. I love these master strategists.

[@cheeseburgerfreddy6350]

MrBracey100 He didn't kick his ass at all,He killed a weakened Clyde had the marquis not been weakened by his younger self he would of killed doom, Plus even after doom learned that dark magic he was still his bitch Lols but doom is a beast though.

[@elongatedmuskrat6622]

MrBracey100 Yeahhhh MoD was already on his death bed after fighting other cosmic beings. So DOOM delivered the final blow. Not what I call an "ass kicking."

[@chirazi]

+MrBracey100 he made doom kill him since he him self is a writer and wouldn’t dissapoint you as a fan

[@TobeyStarburst]

Stupid shit like this pisses me off. Doom didn't kick his ass fucking moron.

[@AceMcSchooly]

Doom beat him before he got powerful. Waited 65 millions years training to Death existed then killed his ass lol

[@marcrisa6352]

This also tells me how powerful Doctor Doom ACTUALLY IS himself .

[@mentos7070]

Well he has balls.

[@mangkubi]

@@mentos7070 Balls

[@shady8045]

I love doom but not really. I think mostly what it demonstrates is his will power to persist in even the most ludicrously horrible situations. Idk if he was really that powerful because he killed Marquis of death though, The other Clyde did most of the work while doom just kinda took his opportunity to kill him after he was weakened.

[@CassiusThePro]

Why is Dr. Doom always in the middle of everything cosmic and all powerful? You would think someone would just go, poof, you're dead and that'd be the end of him, but no, he always manages to get put in a situation he can not only escape from, but wind up more powerful. Sheesh man.

[@christiansaladaga8825]

If the marquis of death is so strong then he should Just poof doctor doom out of existence and he should know all history

[@kevingonzales9704]

Right! This is what I didnt like about the story. He obviously wanted to kill doom, but couldnt yet he could kill cosmic entities? Not very consistent

[@BaronVonLethal]

Yeah comics have a bad habit of creating characters that snap their fingers to wipe out adversaries but some how give the main characters enough wiggle room to escape and win. Bad writing for me personally.

[@cheeseburgerfreddy6350]

Kevin Gonzales The Marquis of death is sadistic as hell,He wantes doom to be tortured that's why.

[@kevingonzales9704]

CHEESE BURGER FREDDY yeah that's fine he can torture him and he did. But when he wanted to deliver the killing blow he did not. That's bs.

[@shroomie_g7]

So I decided to look into the alternate realities shown in this video: Earth-1219: Where the 1985 story takes place. Similar to our world, with the exception of Clyde Wyncham Jr: the only mutant in that world. Earth-807128: The Marquis Of Death originated from this reality. Earth-93563: Mr. Fantastic & The Human Torch (Jack Storm) got married. The Marquis Of Death & his apprentice killed every superhero and villain on Earth, and made the sun go supernova. One of the many realities visited by the Marquis.

[@ColdNorth0628]

Marquis is honestly not powerful i can kill him with this. *holds up a eraser*

[@ColdNorth0628]

And this *gets marvel writer fired*

[@TheTideKing004]

How do you know? He originated from our universe so our drawings of his could be just that.

[@sgnitzlennahv]

Brad Windle. Lol he's still fiction for all we know the next time he show up he might be a spiderman villain level

[@TheTideKing004]

muhd aznim maybe maybe not. they will probably forget about him in future retcons but I really like him and would like another story with him in the future maybe de power him so he and Franklin can have a brawl

[@sgnitzlennahv]

Brad Windle. I prefer they do not retcon him. If there's one thing I hate most about comic it's the retcon bs. Just stick with the original. If you ask me I always want a comic where there are conflict amongst the cosmic and magical being without alien or human involvement, just every supreme being battle it all out across multiverse and dimension

[@MirageUchiha]

Huh, so real world in the comic is 12-18? That's satisfying since Stan Lee was born in December, and also passed away on Nov. 12th 2018 (Twelfth day & the year ending in eighteen.) That lines up almost too perfect. Rest easy Stan.

[@TheMusashisan]

i'll bet as a comic reader you finding this hidden gem was GREAT! probably not too many characters you have not heard of. i could hear the excitement in your voice.

[@CosmicInertia]

And all this started because he just wanted his comics.

[@cajurthemighty3146]

He's back with the character explanations! F**k yeah! It's a good time to be in the Rob core! 💪 Keep up the good work Rob! You are EASILY my favorite comic channel / KZbin channel!

[@mattwood1562]

CajurTheMighty It's spelt corp 👌🏻

[@chadgemacusi1369]

Odin Hope corps *

[@Jealod24]

It always puts a smile on my face to hear you so elated when talking about comic media you love. It’s great to hear someone truly happy with their job and excited to meet fans. Stay safe during COVID and all the best brother.

[@mnmnmnmnmnmnmnmnmmmmmmmmmm230]

does this story mean that Doom is millions of years old

[@jaywizz17]

Duncan Fergusson yup

[@alerted0]

Duncan Fergusson yes

[@noxsdelerius8326]

Doom is kept alive by Magic, mutant powers, his own esoteric will of hate, and hes a scientist capable for basically any feat of science... Victor Von Doom is one of the strongest villains in comic book history, he even said it was all according to plan when he lost and what he lost,

[@MadisonCarter]

It's not even the only time he's been left in the past, either, and he's been stranded in the future at least once for years, not to mention an "unending" time loop he was stuck in during the early 80s. Dude's lived a very long life.

[@robertbarber1198]

When marvel says you ain't seen nothing yet believe it.

[@sapk3532]

So at one point Doom married himself right? Even if it was in his mind

[@millerrepin4452]

Well to be fair only person worthy to be marry doom would be doom

[@aceman0000099]

For a few seconds

[@jacobendriss7007]

Sounds like all the Marquis of Death just needed a hug but on a serious note this needs to be a movie

[@djdubsanityproductions3512]

Bro he so powerful he had to kill himself & Doom took the cheap finishing shot

[@PantherCrane]

DJ Dubsanity Productions Stfu

[@juuzousuzuya9722]

DJ Dubsanity Productions thats rght Doom has never beat him alone. 1vs1 everyone would die against him. except the One Above All

[@cheeseburgerfreddy6350]

WICKED N3XUZ Ummm I think people like Pre retcon beyonder and The Fulcrum could beat him also Pre retcon molecule man maybe but everyone else? Nah

[@jackbutler3036]

In blackest day and darkest night, The rob corps helps escape the blight, Of all the problems of daily strife, Beware our power, the rob corps might.

[@Infamous41]

lol...nice

[@dokuganryu1565]

That's perfect

[@dokuganryu1565]

Welp, thanks for that

[@andrews5867]

+dokuganryu 15 I didn't mean to be so harsh. Was my first thought but after thinking about.it I regret saying. Tbh I thought I deleted.the comment. Lol. It was decently witty though. >,

[@dokuganryu1565]

It's alright pal, there's no harm done

[@spiderbat1123]

the living tribunal didn't step in because it wasn't a magical imbalance

[@qwer-tj5ob]

Rob mentioned that in other video

[@spiderbat1123]

qwer i know, that's why I said that

[@abraxis20]

The Tribunal never stepped in with Sise Neg either and that was definitely magical.

[@ugochionuh7071]

spider bat Marquis of Death is waaaaay stronger than The Living Tribunal. Marquis of Death is equal to The One Above All.

[@Quinnandfriends1]

omnipwn Nothing can truly be omnipotent though, it's a paradox

[@shadow9774]

1:56 Cool how King Gidorah and Jet Jaguar from the Godzilla franchise are in the background.

[@justcallmefiji6179]

It's 6am and just as I'm about to sleep, I see a video from rob. Well time to start up the coffee pot.

[@BaBaBaBenny]

I could be wrong, but I feel like there was a nod to the Marquis of Death in Multiverse of Madness, there was a single shot of a statue at mount wundagore that looked suspiciously like him...

[@popo237]

So that version of the Human Torch was a real Flamer.

[@kevinthompson7035]

popo237 buh dum tisss

[@zamasublack4639]

It was funny how he said Reed Richards and Jack Storm were married like it was the most normal and natural thing.

[@olschoolTonyCarter]

lol

[@popo237]

Ain't nothing normal or natural like catching on fire and stretching, ya know?

[@kaimakaizee3087]

5 years later, I'm here because of a KZbin short, lol. Great vid.